The Cucking We Never Saw Coming

Chris and Lexie thought they knew exactly how the night would go.

A trip to a lifestyle club wasn't anything new for them. They expected flirting, excitement, and maybe a few surprises along the way. What they didn't expect was for another woman to completely change the direction of the night.

In this episode of The Cuckold Marriage Podcast, Chris and Lexie share the story of a cucking experience neither of them saw coming. From the moment they walked into the club to the unexpected connection that developed throughout the evening, they discuss the attraction, jealousy, excitement, vulnerability, and communication that followed. They also pull back the curtain on what lifestyle clubs are really like, the biggest misconceptions people have about them, and why some of the most memorable experiences happen when expectations are left at the door.

If you've ever wondered what happens when fantasy takes an unexpected turn, this episode offers a real, raw, and unfiltered look at one of the most surprising experiences of Chris and Lexie's marriage.

Lexie's Website: www.CuckoldressLexie.com

Email Us: Podcast@CuckoldressLexie.com 

Transcript

SPEAKER_01 0:03

Tonight's episode is one of those nights that starts with a little curiosity and ends with your heart pounding. I'm cupcultist Lexi Meadows, and tonight Chris and I are taking you inside a real night at a lifestyle club. The energy, the tension, the flirting, the moment that another person caught my attention in a way that neither of us expected. We're talking about desire, jealousy, excitement, and what happens when fantasy suddenly turns very, very real. This is the Coupled Marriage Podcast.

SPEAKER_02 0:37

Hey Lexi, how's it going today?

SPEAKER_01 0:39

Pretty good. How are you?

SPEAKER_02 0:40

I'm doing well. Long day, but I'm excited to be talking about this topic with you. So before we get started, as always, we'll have a couple of announcements, and they're kind of the same ones that we always have. Number one, thanks to those of you who have been sending us fan mail. We really appreciate it. It really helps um, first of all, us know that that the show is resonating and sometimes y'all ask questions or um have further thoughts about the show. All of those things are great. We want to hear your stories too and confessions. So make sure to click on that link that says send fan mail in the show notes, and you can go ahead and uh send a voicemail there. You can send a text. You can also email us podcast at cuckholdresslexie.com. Um, and we will get all of those. Secondly, is make sure that you um get a little bit more intimate with Lexi by joining her fansly uh and uh and follow her on there. It's it's pretty awesome the kind of stuff that she posts. And you can find that by just visiting her website, cuckholdresslexie.com. And then finally, follow us on Blue Sky Social. We're at the cuckold marriage pod on there. We really want to hear from you. Um that's where we do a lot of communicating. We post there every single day. Um, so uh and hopefully we can hear from more folks. So let's get into this super fun night. So this is a real story. This happened a few days ago, um, last Saturday, right?

SPEAKER_01 1:59

Yeah, yeah. I have to admit I'm a little nervous telling this story um just because it's it's you know, as if I wasn't putting enough of my life on display. It's just another um another facet and um another another part of of me that sometimes comes out.

SPEAKER_02 2:17

Yeah, and uh it's totally cool. That's what our audience loves. So let's kind of set the scene. So we were talking about going out this weekend. We we we were by ourselves, we were looking forward to having some alone time, some adult time.

SPEAKER_01 2:33

I love you say like we were looking forward to going out as if you weren't like, hey, we actually have some alone time and I really want to go out desperately. Can we go out? Can we go out, please? What can we do? What can we do? It's more like that.

SPEAKER_02 2:47

I I do not see any proof that that's the way it took place. But I think everybody knows that's the way it took place.

SPEAKER_00 2:53

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 2:54

So, anyways, so we were deciding what we were gonna do and we were debating between just going to a normal vanilla place or or going out to a lecture. Just bar hopping or just bar hopping and that kind of stuff, which is what we do typically most of the time. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 3:07

If we go out, we just typically go bar hopping.

SPEAKER_02 3:09

We just go bar hopping, we crap different.

SPEAKER_01 3:10

Just for fun, you know, we don't meet anyone, we just go have fun.

SPEAKER_02 3:13

Yeah, most of the time we're by ourselves. But on this particular night, we decided we were we were gonna be a little bit more um cuckold, cuckoldrous kind of a uh dynamic. And so I had asked Lexi, you choose. Do you want to go to like a casual just bar hopping like normal, or would you rather um go to a lifestyle club, go to a sex club? And you took a couple days, you thought about it. I told you what the themes were. So there was kind of there's two different uh uh clubs with options, and one of them I think was like a schoolgirl theme, but they didn't let in single guys.

SPEAKER_01 3:45

Yeah, so what's the point of that?

SPEAKER_02 3:46

Yeah, exactly. In our case, in our case, and and by the way, I I hate it when clubs do this, when they discriminate against single men going. Like there are ladies that want to meet single men.

SPEAKER_01 3:58

Well, yeah, not to mention, I mean, stack vixen relationships, um, couple cockrous relationships, you know, we're not everyone's a swinger.

SPEAKER_02 4:06

Right. So oftentimes we feel left out when we go to those places and there's nobody like us. But having said that, we we chose the place that did have um a uh that a single guy is allowed. So what made you want to go to the lifestyle club that like what made you decide that? Because you were deciding, deciding, deciding, and then you finally made a decision. What made you come to that decision?

SPEAKER_01 4:26

We just hadn't been in forever. I mean, we we kind of got um a little tired of the whole sex club thing because you know, one of the first times that we went together, we had a fantastic night. Um, you guys have already heard about it on our previous um podcast about how we met this this uh single guy and um had a great night and then had an even better night nights later. And um so we we just constantly kept chasing that high of trying to um meet a decent bull at these clubs, and we kept just striking out. Um there was no one that I was interested in. Um we just kind of felt I don't know, we just didn't feel great. And so we stopped going for like forever. And when he started presenting me with you know these themes and these nights and everything, I was like, you know what? No expectations, none, but we haven't gone in forever, we've written it off for a bit, maybe it's time to give it another shot, just you know, for fun. Why not? You know? Just might as well.

SPEAKER_02 5:36

Yeah. I I yeah, and I was honestly surprised that you chose that.

SPEAKER_01 5:40

You know, well, it was also um like a cowgirl theme. Right, cowgirl theme. And I I I have never owned a pair uh since I was a child, a pair of cowboy cowboy boots, and he's been trying to get me to buy cowboy boots for three years.

SPEAKER_02 5:59

Hell yes, true jeans shorts and cowgirl boots. That's what I'm talking about.

SPEAKER_01 6:04

And so I decided, you know what? Um this is an opportunity to go shoe shopping. So I'm gonna take it.

SPEAKER_02 6:15

All right. So it was about the shoes. That's what made you decide.

SPEAKER_01 6:18

That was part of what made me decide. We we got me some really good looking cowboy boots. I like them.

SPEAKER_02 6:23

They do look really good. Actually, if you follow us on Blue Sky, I posted a picture of the two of us that night with you in that outfit that you wore that night. So I would highly recommend if you don't follow us on Blue Sky Social, follow us because then you can actually see um the way that we were both dressed that night.

SPEAKER_01 6:37

And the boots.

SPEAKER_02 6:38

The boots.

SPEAKER_01 6:39

The boots, it's all about the boots.

SPEAKER_02 6:40

I was not much of a bandit though.

SPEAKER_01 6:42

No, you were not.

SPEAKER_02 6:43

We wore black boots and a black shirt.

SPEAKER_01 6:45

We didn't have a bandana for you, and I regret that. We did not have a red bandana around your neck, that would have been so much better.

SPEAKER_02 6:51

Yeah, you're a alright.

SPEAKER_01 6:53

Um so Oh, oh that's my question. Were you hoping what were you hoping that might happen that night?

SPEAKER_02 7:04

Nothing. Like honestly, like I it was one of the So what I have found is if I lower my expectations to zero, okay, anything above a zero is pretty awesome.

SPEAKER_01 7:18

That's a great way to do a lot of things in life.

SPEAKER_02 7:22

Yeah. So um, but normally when we go out, like I like kind of hope. I'm like, oh, I hope you get flirty. I hope you know this happens, or like it'll be fun. Like literally this time I had none of that. Like nothing. And which is incredible because we were going to a sex club, we were going to a lifestyle club. So the odds of something happening were relatively I mean, they were there, right? They're more than in a They existed. They existed. But I mean, also just from my experience in these places, um, that there's there's often not a lot of a lot of grid options, especially when it comes to single males. Like a lot of them are are swingers in there and all that, and we don't, we don't do do any kind of swapping.

SPEAKER_01 8:00

Right. And sometimes, sometimes the swingers that are there are they kind of are like, hey, we'll take what we can get. Only he gets play, only she gets play. That's cool, you know, at least just play. So sometimes that still works, but it's still not ideal. It's awkward. It's not what we look for.

SPEAKER_02 8:19

Yeah. So I mean, knowing all that, knowing our past experience, and honestly, like I just wanted to have fun with you that night. Like, I really did not give a shit if anything happened at all, which is, I mean, I normally kind of like in the back of my head, I'm like, oh, I hope something happens. Like, I truly, truly, truly didn't care. Um, I just wanted to hang out with you. I was excited to be alone with you. And I thought we would go, maybe we'd dance with each other a little bit, and we would just like, we always have good conversation. So that's what I thought was gonna happen. That's literally my expectation. However, what did cross my mind was the last time you went out when I didn't have an expectation was that Nike went to a hotel room with some guy. So it did cross my mind, hey, I wonder if me having no expectations is gonna lead to something happening. But then I quickly let that go because I didn't want to jinx myself.

SPEAKER_01 9:06

And then you went to bed and had no idea that I was out in a guy's hotel room.

SPEAKER_02 9:11

Yeah, that I had no freaking idea. Still in my mind, top two or three hottest things you've done. I love it. All right. Um, so for those viewers who have never been to, I I would imagine there's a lot of guys in here who wish they could go to a lifestyle club with their partner. Um, we've we've been not just locally here in in the United States, we've been internationally to these kind of in multiple countries. Um, so why don't you describe kind of for our listeners, especially those who have never been to one, what is a lifestyle club? What is a sex club actually like?

SPEAKER_01 9:49

Well, I mean, for one thing, the sex clubs in Europe are a little different, I feel like. Um, but um speaking speaking just of the ones that we have been to here in the US in multiple cities, um they do differ quite a bit based on which club you go on or go to, but they are just a bunch of really horny people trying to mingle dancing. Um I mean, that's that's really what they are. That's what they are. And you know, and I think uh maybe something that might hold some people up from wanting to go, especially women, is thinking that you are gonna be pressured to have sex and that if you don't have sex when you're there, the night's a somehow a failure or you did you did something wrong or anything like that. And it's not, it's it's a bar. Um, usually they don't serve liquor, you gotta bring your own liquor, but it's a bar, dance club that where instead of people solely sitting by themselves and never talking to anyone all night, like most bars and you know, places like that. The the goal and the idea is for you to socialize. You don't have to. You can sit there, especially your first time or two, you can sit there with your partner and you guys don't have to talk to anyone. You do not have to talk to anyone. It's fine. But someone might come up, maybe, maybe. And if they do, you know, you can just be polite and be like, yeah, you know, we're kind of new to this, we're we're just really watching, we're observing, we're not really wanting to like meet anyone tonight, you know. But it was so nice to meet you. It was so nice to talk to you, you know. Thanks for coming up. You don't have to um sit with and engage in every person that comes up to you, um, if someone comes up to you. So don't let it be overwhelming or feel like forced socialization if you're not comfortable, just go check it out. It's it's really not that bad. Um, if anything, it's it's people watching at its finest. Yes.

SPEAKER_02 12:11

I I say this in the most loving possible way. But if you've ever seen the Cantina scene in Star Wars, where they're in the bar in Star Wars and there's all these eclectic characters in there, aliens from all over all of the galaxy.

SPEAKER_01 12:27

Yeah, you're showing your inner dork so hard.

SPEAKER_02 12:30

Yes, but I have a strong feeling that 95% of the men who are listening to this podcast know exactly what the fuck I'm talking about.

SPEAKER_01 12:39

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_02 12:40

The Cantina scene in Star Wars, the little blue guy, like doot doot do on the on the horn. So that's sort of what it's like. It's just, and I mean that again in the most loving way. It's just a collection of the most unique human beings you will ever see.

SPEAKER_01 12:55

It is, truly.

SPEAKER_02 12:56

And what I love about it is that people are open and nice, and they're just like everybody's like willing to like talk to you. And you might be talking to somebody who's dressed in like BDSM gear and you're in, you know, jeans and a t-shirt, and you're talking to them like you're, you know, the there's no difference. It's not weird. It's not, you know, the it's not like people are all over you all the time. Like Lexi said, it's presents pretty much just like a normal bar. Um, people might be dressed uh differently, they might be more eclectic, they might be more open about their sexuality, but it's it's essentially just a bar. Okay, so um, and by the way, some of them, the single men can walk around alone. Some of them you can't. Some of them you have to be kind of posted up unless a couple kind of gets you. And so if you're considering going to one of these places, you want to make sure that you read the rules beforehand ahead of time because you don't want a snafu in there, like everybody, there's like a certain etiquette to the place. Yeah. So make sure, and if it's your first time to a place, ask somebody for a tour. Um, and everybody's super welcoming and and all that kind of stuff. So everybody is is is really, really nice. So you'll be able to get a tour.

SPEAKER_01 14:05

Oh, yeah. I think we forgot to mention you that that made me think the tour. Um, that this is a bar, you know, dance club that also has beds in the back where you can fuck.

SPEAKER_00 14:16

Yes.

SPEAKER_01 14:17

Um, so a lot of these places, uh, well, all of them will have rooms, beds, what have you, somewhere um in the club, where it's on the second floor or in the back or what have you, that um you can have sex. And sometimes they'll even have, for lack of a better term, like a almost dungeon-like atmosphere um that has just different equipment and um, you know, paraphernalia to an extent. I mean, there's nothing like gross like that people share like dildos or anything like that. Not like that to sort of paraphernalia, but you know, a rack, um, you know, things like that, like whips, chains, all the fun, fun stuff. Um, but other than that, you know, it's just a bar.

SPEAKER_02 15:08

Yeah, other than other than the back room, it's just a bar. So um you we walk in and there's always like a little kind of reception area where you they they do your IDs, you you pay the entrance fee, and then you like cross the path, right? And then like you open the door to Willy Wonka's chocolate factory, and uh you're in there, and and then that's when you're in that scene with with all the different people, and there's dancing and there's you know, high top tables. It looks like just any other bar that you would see. But when we walked in this night last Saturday, what were you um, what was your initial thoughts when we walked in there?

SPEAKER_01 15:41

I mean being a cuckholder does not mean that you never feel shy or self-conscious or a little intimidated. I think walking into a giant room full of people, half of which are dressed scantily and BDSM type stuff and dancing and everyone's drinking, and um, you know, you're probably dressed a little bit scantily. I think it can be a little intimidating for everyone. Like, especially if you haven't had any drinks first, you know. Um so I I was feeling a little just kind of like, oh, here we are. Um, you know, let's uh let's let's bust out that Bacardi right about now, you know. Um and uh I saw I was a little intimidated, but I was also kind of like here are my people. Um, you know, here are the the ones that are out to have a good time and express themselves and be with like-minded people.

SPEAKER_02 16:56

And by the way, let's uh, you know, for those who who have not joined Blue Sky yet and seen your outfit, what were you wearing that night for Cowgirls Night?

SPEAKER_01 17:02

I was wearing a plaid, um, like three-quarter length shirt, tied at the front, you know, kind of high, sort of showing my belly, and um some Daisy Duke shorts and my brand new cowboy boots.

SPEAKER_02 17:19

She looked really, really fucking hot. It was hot. And so let's kind of break down what happened. So we get there, we we find a little seat that like a bar facing the main area, and we just kind of post up there and we start to hang out and and have have you know a drink and um sitting there just kind of talking, and I'm kind of scanning the room, you're kind of scanning the room. And then I actually noticed out of the corner of my eye a couple sitting at the bar, and I noticed the woman was was rather attractive. And um then we went outside not shortly after that, just to get a a change of scene. And I mentioned to you, I said that there's some there's some pretty people here tonight, and her husband was was pretty decent looking too, and all that stuff. And uh so I mentioned that to you, and you were not thrilled that I mentioned that. But then we went back in after that, and I went back to the bar to get another soda for myself.

SPEAKER_01 18:19

And I wasn't thrilled because you you mentioned a specific girl that you saw. You didn't describe her, so I had no idea who she was, but you were like, yeah, there's there's some decent looking couples here. It was a really pretty girl, and I was just like Yes, you were.

SPEAKER_02 18:33

And so I saw it.

SPEAKER_01 18:34

Oh really?

SPEAKER_02 18:35

And so I saw, which actually leads to what happened next. So I go to the bar and um I'm getting I'm getting my soda, and she's literally six inches from me, this this very attractive woman. And she was dark hair. I I think she was Latina. She had dark hair, um, dark features, but like very beautiful, and this like short black dress, um, kind of scantily down the middle and all that stuff. Not that I noticed. These are just it's like imagine if a police was asking me to do a sketch. Like this would be my guess of what this person is wearing.

SPEAKER_01 19:17

Right.

SPEAKER_02 19:17

So, anyways, keep going.

SPEAKER_01 19:19

That ice just keeps getting thinner.

SPEAKER_02 19:21

I'm six inches from her, and I am so focused on not looking her, it's not even funny. Um, because they're a couple, we're a couple, and so a lot of times when there's a couple, what they're expecting is is that you're swingers.

SPEAKER_01 19:35

Swingers, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 19:35

And so I was trying to make it abundantly clear that I was not interested in this person. And again, that's the way that I am. I mean, I'm a human being, so I will find other people attractive, but I have zero, zero interest in them because I'm all about Lexi. And so I was standing at the bar, like just staring straight ahead. It must have looked so awkward because I mean they were right there and I would not look over. So, anyways, I get my soda and I go back to where you're sitting, and then we decided we're gonna play pool because, like, one thing that I think is super, super hot was whenever you play pool, and then if you're in shorts or or like it, like it's fun to watch you bend over and all that stuff. It's awesome.

SPEAKER_01 20:13

He had this pre-planned, apparently.

SPEAKER_02 20:15

No, I just there was a pool table, and I was like, Well, you know what? You gotta seize on the moment.

SPEAKER_01 20:21

I think I was the one that wanted to that mentioned the pool table and wanted to play pool, unbeknownst to me, that your first thought was bend over, bitch. Yeah. So um, yeah, I brought that one up.

SPEAKER_02 20:33

Yes. So we go to the pool, Terry Bowl, and I'm setting it up. And then Lexi goes to the bar for something, and then I notice her talking to Hot Chick. So Hot Chick ended up being named Amy. So what was your first, like, what happened when you went to the bar? Like, walk me through, because I haven't asked you to like walk me through in detail yet, because I knew we were gonna talk about this. So walk me through. You go to the bar and like what happens?

SPEAKER_01 20:56

Um, so at this point I'm still kind of nervous. I'm still just like very carefully checking people out, but trying not to make eye contact with anyone because I'm I'm not sure you know how much interaction and how much socializing we want to do that night, especially, you know, it can be a little um intimidating if you maybe lock ice with the wrong person. Um and so I I was very much like laser focused on my goal, which was to get a cup of ice. And um so this girl sitting at the bar next to me, she I I think that if I remember correctly, she complimented me on my makeup. Um she said, Oh my gosh, I love your makeup, it looks so good. And I, you know, for for the first moment noticed her and she's just gorgeous. She's petite, like five foot one, uh, which of course made me feel like a freaking giant at five foot four. Um almost five foot four. I'm gonna claim it. And um she's Like definitely not she missed the memo on the whole cowgirls and outlaws theme. She's wearing a black dinner dress, cocktail dress, um, high heels, um, long, like you said, long blonde or not long blonde, that's me. Um, long flowing black hair, um dark eyes, just beautiful, bright smile. And I just was like, oh well, I love your outfit and your necklace. Those are gorgeous. And she's like, Oh, thanks. And just immediately I was like, all right, she's gorgeous. Um hey, you know what? We're about to play pool. Um, you want to play? And she's like, Oh no, we couldn't. I'm terrible. I I don't know what I'm doing. I've actually never played before, so I would be awful. And I was like, oh, how cute. I was like, don't worry about it, girl. I'm terrible. Um, I have played before, I'm just not any good. Um, she's or she said, no, she said, um, I've never played before, but if you want to teach me, I would gladly learn. And I was like, girl, I I'm terrible, but um, I'd still love to play with you. She's like, great, it'll be like the blind leading the blind. And I was like, yeah, let's do it. She's like, let's do it. And it was just so cute, and I was like instantly head of her heels. So you've been thinking about it. But turning fantasy into reality takes more than curiosity, it takes direction. I work with couples and individuals to guide you through the conversations and dynamics that make a cup holding relationship actually work. Those first conversations and introductions to your fantasy are especially critical. Done right, it changes everything. Done wrong, it can break it. If you're ready to do it the right way, book time with me at cuckholderslexie.com.

SPEAKER_02 24:06

Okay, so you're instantly head over heels over this hot woman.

SPEAKER_01 24:10

Yes, this hot Latina.

SPEAKER_02 24:12

Yeah, and so I don't know this is happening, I see them interacting, but I have no fucking idea what's gonna happen.

SPEAKER_01 24:18

Yeah, you're over there you're setting up the pool table.

SPEAKER_02 24:20

Setting up the pool table.

SPEAKER_01 24:21

Or attempting to, since we don't know how to do it.

SPEAKER_02 24:23

Attempting to, and uh apparently I did it all wrong, according to Amy's husband.

SPEAKER_01 24:27

Yeah, who turned out to be a damn pool shark.

SPEAKER_02 24:28

Yeah, Mofo.

SPEAKER_01 24:29

Jackass.

SPEAKER_02 24:30

We know that you knew you know you hustled this. We know you hustled this. So, anyways. So then Lexi comes to the pool table with Amy and her husband. And when that happened, I'm thinking, my first thought is, oh shit, like, how am I gonna get out of having to do something with this woman? Like, what is Lexi's plan?

SPEAKER_01 24:53

You assumed I was going after the guy, didn't you?

SPEAKER_02 24:55

Yes, I assumed you were going after the guy. And so I was like, what the hell am I going to do? I don't know what the honestly I didn't know what the hell was going on.

SPEAKER_01 25:02

Wait, wait, wait. So when did you realize that I was after her and not him?

SPEAKER_02 25:09

It took a little bit because I didn't know that you guys were were communicating. So I thought you, I didn't know what you were doing. Like I thought you were either into the guy or that you just thought that they were fun and you just wanted to hang out. Like I that's what I thought was more likely. But knowing how those establishments work, if you invite another couple over with you to like hang out and all that stuff, a lot of times that can be perceived in a way that we're interested in doing more, not always.

SPEAKER_01 25:39

Yeah, no, that is that is something about those establishments, is that it it can be hard to try and just like make friends um because it's kind of assumed, and this is something just to keep in mind, that it's kind of assumed that maybe one of one party wants to fuck one of the other party or both. They both want to fuck each other, something, some sort of fucking is wanting to happen.

SPEAKER_02 26:02

Some sort of fuck is going to take place. Yes. So, anyway, so I don't know what's gonna happen. Um, but then you whispered to me um that uh, hey, I think Amy's cute, like I wouldn't mind hooking up with her, something like that. And when you said that, I was like, holy shit. Um so this is like a rare part of Lexi that comes out very, very rarely. Very rarely. I've seen it a couple of times, but it's very rare. I've never seen her swoon over another woman, though. Like I've never seen that before. What was different about this one?

SPEAKER_01 26:47

Um, I mean, she was just so freaking cute. She was just like this this itty bitty little China doll. Like she just was um she was adorable and our personalities really matched. She was one of those that could be shy while at the same time outgoing and eager, and um, you know, just like clearly having a great time. But uh, you know, I I could sense this also shyness in her, and I feel that in in myself sometimes. So I saw a lot of myself in her just in this cute, almost opposite look, you know. I'm 5'4, which is the average height for an American woman. Um, at least I'm almost 5'4, and you know, um she's really short. So compared to her, I'm tall. Um she has black hair, I have blonde, you know, she has brown eyes, I I have green. You know, we were just, you know, she was tanner because she was Latina, and I'm very pale because I'm very, very white. Um and so she was just like my perfect little opposite, and she was just very sexy.

SPEAKER_02 28:02

This is hot. Okay. This is really, really hot. Yeah, okay. So yeah, so you told me. That's how I realized what was up.

SPEAKER_01 28:10

All right. So then how did it feel watching me flirt with a woman?

SPEAKER_02 28:16

I I it's so hard to describe. It felt totally different than when you're flirting with a guy. When you're flirting with a guy, there is a lot of angst. There's a lot of angst because there's that threat. Like there's a like a bigger, stronger guy, or whatever, or whatever it is.

SPEAKER_01 28:33

Like your comparison. You have comparison.

SPEAKER_02 28:35

Right, there's comparison. So with her, there wasn't any of that, but it still felt like I was being cucked. Like you were still cucking me. It was just with the opposite gender. And so I still felt the same like um kind of displacement. Does that make sense?

SPEAKER_01 28:51

No.

SPEAKER_02 28:51

So say more. So this what happens often in these things is that you, as the primary partner, are displaced for a certain period of time where somebody else takes kind of like the primary role. And mostly it's a guy doing that in our situation.

SPEAKER_01 29:07

Okay, I just ignore you.

SPEAKER_02 29:09

Right. Yeah. I was trying to say it nicely. You fucking ignore me. All your attention goes to somebody else.

SPEAKER_01 29:15

Well, it'd be nice. I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 29:17

So, anyways, I did feel that. Like, I and I I I like really felt that. Um, but I was um, I didn't know how the fuck to handle it because I still thought they she didn't know what was happening and that she might have been into me. I like I just Oh, that's so cute.

SPEAKER_01 29:32

Your ego thought this whole time that maybe really what she was after was you. Oh, that's adorable.

SPEAKER_02 29:41

This is not cute. That's adorable.

SPEAKER_01 29:43

Yeah, I really didn't want you. She wanted me.

SPEAKER_02 29:46

No, but wait, so how did you communicate with her? Did you have a sidebar with her?

SPEAKER_01 29:50

I did.

SPEAKER_02 29:50

What did you say?

SPEAKER_01 29:51

I asked her, I said, like, what's y'all's deal? Like, what are y'all into? Into? What are y'all after? Like, what's what's the dynamic here? And um her answer confused me at first. Um, I I don't I'm trying to remember. I don't feel like she said soft swap, but it was like softcore or something like that. Like, and I was just kind of like dumbfounded. I was just like, what? And she said, Well, it's usually like me just like kind of soft core with another girl. And I was like, You don't say that I I literally was like, that's awesome, that's perfect. I love that. I love that for you.

SPEAKER_02 30:38

It was so funny because when I finally asked what her deal like, because I was like, This is so awkward. What the fuck is happening? And you you wanted her, but I didn't know you had had a sidebar with her. Like, so I didn't know that you guys were on the same page. So I finally asked her, like, what is your dynamic? And then that's when she did say, like, I'm mostly here for girl on girl. And I had the exact same reaction. The first words were, oh my gosh, that's perfect. That's literally what I said. And I must have looked like a little schoolgirl excited. You probably did, but I wasn't excited because like I was gonna get to watch my wife with another woman. I mean, yeah, that's exciting. Okay, but that initial excitement was relief.

SPEAKER_01 31:14

Like I was I was relieved that He was scared he was gonna get killed by me for being too intimate with another woman, yes.

SPEAKER_02 31:22

Yes, I was terrified.

SPEAKER_01 31:23

Lorena Bobbitt style. I'm I'm just saying, exactly.

SPEAKER_02 31:25

And so um now having that pressure off, like I was like, all right, let's do it. And so I was down to like help you in whatever way that I could, as I as I always, I mean that's what I always do is your helpful cuck, is I can help you close the deal. I am your closer.

SPEAKER_01 31:42

You're my closer? I don't think I needed you last that night.

SPEAKER_02 31:45

No, you did not need me.

SPEAKER_01 31:47

It was one of the nights I didn't need you.

SPEAKER_02 31:48

I mean, the only thing that was happening with me is you two were flirting. Um, the the the husband was being like a pool shark, and I was there missing every single shot possible.

SPEAKER_00 31:57

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 31:58

That's what was happening. So, what what would excited you the most about getting the attention of the most beautiful person in there aside from you?

SPEAKER_01 32:07

She was by far the the most um they were the they were the most attractive other couple in the entire place. Like entire place by far. Um what was exciting about this, you know, um rarity um was you know, being found attractive by another woman it's kind of a whole nother level. It's like it's again it's like the ultimate compliment, really, because um, you know, men are hardwired to uh street men are hardwired to be super attracted to us. And so it's easy, it's common, we expect it. We're like as women, I mean let's face it, we can basically have any guy we want, really, because men are all about sex and it nothing else matters. So um, but to be found attractive by another woman, especially a good looking woman, was like the ultimate ego trip. It was the ultimate, like yes, you are attractive, but even by a hot woman's standards, you are hot. So that was that was a nice little ego boost, especially since she was a little younger than me. We're not gonna say exactly how much younger, but she was quite a bit younger than me. And so that was just all the more like, oh, well, thank you.

SPEAKER_02 33:41

Yes, she was, yes, she was. And by the way, I agree with you. I I take it as much more of a compliment if a gay male says that I'm attractive or hits on me or something like that. Like, I'll take that all day long. Like, I'll take that all day long versus like women call because I just they have great taste.

SPEAKER_01 33:59

So modest. You guys are so modest.

SPEAKER_02 34:01

No, I don't mean they have great taste because they find me attractive. I just think gay men have really great taste in other men, and so they're able to spot that.

SPEAKER_01 34:08

Yeah. Um so I want to know how was it trying to chat with her guy while Amy and I were just pretty much in our own little world ignoring the two of you.

SPEAKER_02 34:25

It was weird. Um because I'm assuming that he was feeling the same way that I was, which is holy shit, this is awesome. My spouse is hooking up with somebody who's freaking hot. Like I could see him definitely checking you out. So he was like enjoying that it was you. And but I mean he just wasn't much of a conversationalist, and it was just super awkward. Um, so yeah, I would say the conversation with him wasn't awesome. Like if we get to hang out again and we we get a little bit more of a normal environment, maybe.

SPEAKER_01 35:02

I just can't imagine that being awkward just solely because she and I are we're right next to each other, we're talking the whole time. We are completely dead to the outside world. We are not paying attention to either of you.

SPEAKER_02 35:16

Yeah. Well, frankly, he probably thought the same thing that I did. Just I don't want to talk to anybody right now. I just want to watch what is happening because this is amazing. So that to be fair, that's probably what he was thinking. Because that's what I was thinking, is like, I should make small talk. I don't really want to make small talk because I just want to watch.

SPEAKER_01 35:31

All right, fair enough.

SPEAKER_02 35:33

Yes, like an owl. All right. Um, and so let's let's just talk about like what happened, some funny moments. So we step outside, we're hanging outside, and they're they're inside. Um, and uh they're at the pool table, we're outside, and and I go to find you, and uh, you're talking to some other couple because you're just like a social person.

SPEAKER_01 35:53

And this wasn't in the script.

SPEAKER_02 35:57

And anyways, uh you but you're trying to break away from this conversation because you really want to go back to Amy.

SPEAKER_01 36:02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 36:03

And so you you actually finally stopped this other woman who wouldn't who wouldn't let you go.

SPEAKER_01 36:08

Yeah, I think she really wanted like her and her guy and you and me to get together.

SPEAKER_00 36:14

Right.

SPEAKER_01 36:15

And I loved her to death. She was funny, you know, she she was she was a blast. But I really needed to get back to Amy.

SPEAKER_02 36:24

And so you said, you said to this woman, I'm so sorry. Um, I need to get back in there. I'm trying to bang Amy. And that's when that when I heard you say that, that was the first time I realized what was actually fucking happening. Like, I didn't realize it was like to that level until I heard you say that. And then I was like, holy shit, okay. I didn't I didn't know that.

SPEAKER_01 36:45

Like, I I I was just really trying to like I she wouldn't let me go.

SPEAKER_00 36:51

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 36:51

She would not let me go. And I finally just said what I knew would just, you know. Sorry, I'm trying to bang this person. So if you don't mind. I mean, rude as it was, I didn't know what else to do.

SPEAKER_02 37:05

Yeah, no, it was classic. It was an epic line that we'll go down in the history of time.

SPEAKER_01 37:09

Uh like we just worry, I'm just uh I gotta go. I'm trying to bang Amy.

SPEAKER_02 37:12

We need to like carve that in like wood and like put it up in our house.

SPEAKER_01 37:15

How about no?

SPEAKER_02 37:17

All right. So then um the club was starting to die down, maybe around like 2 a.m. or so. And Amy and her husband brought up the idea of going to a strip club next, like a late night strip club. What did you think about that idea?

SPEAKER_01 37:30

Um, I mean, my my first thought was great idea. That removes all the pressure of what I know both of these freaking men of ours are wanting, which is for Amy and I to go in one of the back rooms. Hell yes.

SPEAKER_02 37:50

Give me a hell yes. I'm sure that that's what he wanted to.

SPEAKER_01 37:53

Yeah, yeah. Um, but I don't think that Amy and I were really ready for that. Um, I don't think that she and I were really feeling going back to the back room and doing the deed. You know, I think that we were just very much having fun flirting, little kissing here and there, um dancing. And we wanted to continue hanging out together, but we, I mean, I don't know. I can only speculate. Um, I felt relief that she was basically saying, let's go to a place where there is no backroom for us to fuck. So we can continue having this great time and getting to know each other better without that pressure, without the guys around us just, you know, down our necks, like, You're gonna do it. You're gonna do it? You know. So I was like, absolutely, and also, you know, I have this, I have this habit of, you know, there are some nights we have where we go out and we bar hop and it's very tame, and we're like, okay, you know, it's been a great night. Time to go home. And then there are other nights where the bar's about ready to close, and I'm like, I'm not ready to go home. Let's go do something. Well, the only thing to do at that hour is a strip club. So every once in a blue moon, we go to the strip club because it's a continuation of the party that we were having. And so the fact that she suggested this made me kind of feel like again, Hello, my people. Like she thinks like I do. So I was excited about that.

SPEAKER_02 39:34

And like, how aware were you of my reactions? It's like this whole night is like going on. Am I registering that I'm that I'm there? Because every once in a while you'd come up for air and like communicate something to me, but that was about it.

SPEAKER_01 39:45

Well, the times that I would actually come up for air and and look at you, you just kind of had this happy, dumb grin on your face. Just this smirk, like, my girl's hitting another girl. You know, like you that was the kind of the look on your face. And so I just assumed that everything was okay because you looked happy.

SPEAKER_02 40:10

I was. And it was very different than the feeling, like there wasn't, you know, I talk about the blender of emotions. This one was missing some emotions. There wasn't any jealousy, there wasn't any like angst or that kind of stuff. So it was just the high, um, which was which was cool. Um, because I just I didn't feel threatened at all. I thought that it was pretty awesome what was happening. Uh I it it didn't at the same time I still did feel some of those cuck emotions, but I didn't feel all of them, especially the ones that actually kind of balance out the good ones.

SPEAKER_01 40:43

Don't get used to this.

SPEAKER_02 40:45

No. No, no, no, no. Trust me. Like, and I want to be clear, like, I didn't enjoy it as much as I do when you're with a guy.

SPEAKER_01 40:52

Really?

SPEAKER_02 40:52

No, no, not at all. Not at all. Which is which is crazy. Because I think I think the majority of men, one of their fantasies is seeing their wife with another woman, like I like I've gotten to a few times. And um, but yeah, no, for me, it's the other way around. I mean, that's why I'm, you know, that's why I identify as a cuckle.

SPEAKER_01 41:13

What do you think was the most awkward moment of the night? Be careful here.

SPEAKER_02 41:19

I don't I don't know if there was a really awkward moment of the night. Like I can't, I can't really.

SPEAKER_01 41:23

We're gonna skip that question.

SPEAKER_02 41:24

Yeah. So um what let's kind of close out with let's close out with a couple of things. So, what moment, if there was like a security camera on the whole night, what moment would you have thought was like from your eyes, like looking back now was like the funniest thing that happened?

SPEAKER_01 41:46

So I am I am not the best pool player. And but I get really excited when I win and when I do well. And um, so there were like multiple times where I would get a ball in and I would immediately, yes! I would just get so excited and so like I would just like hands in the air, starting to do a victory dance, and they'd be like, Yeah, we were solids. Thanks for getting that one in for us.

SPEAKER_02 42:15

That's true. She did, she did.

SPEAKER_01 42:19

And or no, no, one time it was that, yeah, I forgot that they were solids and or the opposite, whatever. And I got one of their balls in, and I was so excited, I was so proud of myself. I was just like, fuck yeah. And they were like, Thanks, buddy. Um, and then there was another time where I was, you know, we were solids, and I was so excited. I got this ball in, and it was a freaking eight ball. And I I just was cheering for myself. I was so happy. I just was like, finally. And they were like, that's game, you lose.

SPEAKER_00 42:50

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 42:50

So um, yeah, I think anyone watching that security footage would see me jumping for joy and my excitement and my my just being pleased with myself and and failing miserably.

SPEAKER_02 43:02

Yeah, for sure. Well, let's um that was really funny, by the way. That was funny to but the funnier part was the fact that I don't think I got like a ball in the hole to like the third game. Like I I am truly You are not pulling your weight, buddy. I truly suck at pool. Like there's just no way around it. My hand eye coordination is not good. Let's wrap up with with uh also kind of close the circle on what happened when we went to the strip club. So we get there, we're together, we go in the same car, you two decide to sit in the back seat, which I'm excited about because I'm like, are they gonna start to make out? Like, what's gonna happen? I was just uh I was like a little kid in a candy store. I just didn't know what was gonna happen. I think you guys were just like holding hands, holding hands and flirting, which was awesome. So awesome. So I'm sitting in the front seat with the husband, she's in the back seat with the wife, they're holding hands. This is like fantastic. So, anyways, we get to the strip club, we go in, and basically we just sat there. We we were in there for maybe an hour. We weren't there that long.

SPEAKER_01 43:59

It's kind of a disappointment.

SPEAKER_02 44:01

You you two made out pretty much the entire time. Um, and so my bit of an exaggeration. Maybe not the entire time, but a good chunk of the time you two were making out. Yes, said yes.

SPEAKER_01 44:13

Sure.

SPEAKER_02 44:15

And so my head is like on a swivel because I felt like probably what the other husband was feeling too is like, I don't want to be creepy and just sit there and just look. Um, yet like I don't want to be looking at the strippers. Like I didn't know what to look at. So because I know you don't like me looking at the strippers, which I'm totally cool with. Like, I don't, like I have no desire to see that.

SPEAKER_01 44:38

But I think it's okay for you to be watching me make out with a girl as long as you're more focused on the me making out with someone than the who I'm making out with.

SPEAKER_00 44:50

Yes.

SPEAKER_02 44:51

Yes. Of course, of course. Of course. It was not at all hot that you were making out with this not unattractive person. No, that was not hot at all. But, anyways, my head was on swivel. I was like, okay, look at the stage, look at Lexi. Look at the stage, look at Lexi. Oh, wait, am I looking at Lexi too long? Like, is that just a little bit more?

SPEAKER_01 45:12

Oh my gosh, calm down.

SPEAKER_02 45:14

So that that's how it's not that deep. That's how it kind of went in my head. At least that's how it played out in my head. I'm not sure. It probably lasted about two seconds in my head, and I I thought it was longer.

SPEAKER_01 45:23

Yeah, I really I think it more was in your head. I don't think we made out long at all.

SPEAKER_02 45:29

But um, but anyways, after that, the night was pretty much over. Like we exchanged numbers and all that and and kind of went our separate ways. And that was that was the end of that wild night. That was great. I thought it was going to end in one of those back rooms. I really did. So yeah, but who knows?

SPEAKER_01 45:44

We still sometimes you're not always just because you go to a lifestyle club, it doesn't always mean that you can't meet someone and fuck them later. You don't have to fuck them that night. There's no rule that says if you meet somebody in a lifestyle club that you have to do them that night. That doesn't exist. That's that's not a rule.

SPEAKER_02 46:05

So you're telling me there's a chance.

SPEAKER_01 46:08

Shit.

SPEAKER_02 46:11

Did you have any other questions for me, Lexi, about this night?

SPEAKER_01 46:15

I think that's about it.

SPEAKER_02 46:15

So looking back, um, what do you think this experience told us about our relationship?

SPEAKER_01 46:21

That I can cuck you with anyone.

SPEAKER_02 46:23

Yes. You can cuck me with anybody. I think that that is a really good um, I think that's a really good takeaway. And and from my perspective, it just it just added just another layer, just another crazy layer to to our relationship. And I don't know, you were just super fun that night. And I just thought you were, you know, you were super fun. And it was cute how much you were swooning for this person. Um and uh it was cute to see. So I liked it. I liked seeing you because you were happy. Like that was my favorite part is that you were like having a good time. And like that's that's the best part.

SPEAKER_01 46:57

So sweet.

SPEAKER_02 46:59

Very close number two, singing make out with a hot chick. All right. So let's get to just a couple of listener questions real quick, and then we're gonna wrap up for today. So the first question is from Columbus, Ohio. And this listener asks, I've been, I've had cuck holding fantasies for years, but I've told my, but I've never told my wife because I'm terrified she'll see me differently afterwards. How do you even begin that conversation without feeling ashamed or embarrassed? I think this one is best for you, Lexi.

SPEAKER_01 47:31

Okay, so for starters, um, feeling ashamed and embarrassed is you sh I say it like as nothing, like, don't feel that way. But look, here's the thing, you're actually in the majority instead of the minority. Um, I've read studies where 58% of men have had this fantasy at some point in their lives. So you are in the majority, not the minority. That in and of itself should make you kind of you know see this in a different light. It's it's becoming more common as the years go by and it's already very common. So you you have no need to feel ashamed or embarrassed. Um also you know, you said how do I even begin this conversation? This is something that I go over a lot with my my coaching clients, is that in general it's not a good plan to sit down with your spouse partner and just blurt out I have this fantasy and I want to do this, and what do you think? Um, yeah. You know, um, that's not a good plan because every girl is different, every girl is gonna feel about it differently. And while there is a surprisingly high number of women who are totally down for this, um and would be down for this, some won't. And so I I don't think that it's a good idea to just fucking drop a bomb without some intel. I think that it is a great idea to make some little hints, plant some little seeds that gather you that intel um before you drop any bombs. So, you know, you you make some some comments like, my gosh, you know, um every guy in here just is breaking their neck trying to look at you, they want you. It's so nice knowing that I'm the one that gets to go home with you, you know, and kind of see what their response is and gauge their reaction. Um you know, taking it a step further, you're watching some sort of a movie or show, you know, damn. You know what? Ryan Gosling is so good looking that if if you uh you were to do him, I wouldn't even be mad. In fact, I'd enjoy the show with you being with someone, you know, that you were having so much fun with, that you were so attracted to, or something, you know, just planting these little seats, dropping these little hints like um like that, and gauging her reaction. That's gathering intel. That's figuring out kinda I don't want to say what you're up against, but it's it's figuring out where she is um mindset-wise and seeing how she would react to you talking about all these other guys warning you, and um, you know, it w maybe it'd be hot or you know, you wouldn't even be mad if some guy was giving your tones of pleasure, something like that, just gently throwing it out there and gauging her response before just dropping the ultimate full throttle bomb and being like, I want this. What you think? So that's that's how I wouldn't, I wouldn't have the conversation. I would plant the seeds and and um drop the hints and see her reaction to those.

SPEAKER_02 51:12

Well said. Well said. Okay, last question. Tampa, Florida. My girlfriend is way more sexually confident than I am, and sometimes I honestly think that imbalance is part of what attracts me to cuck holding. Is it common for men in this lifestyle, or does that point to a deeper insecurity issue? That's a good question.

SPEAKER_01 51:30

That's you, babe.

SPEAKER_02 51:31

Okay, so let me think this through. Okay, so my girlfriend is way more sexually confident than I am, and sometimes I honestly think that imbalance is part of what attracts me to cuck holding. Hmm. You know what's interesting is that, you know, that this is this is brought up a a lot by men. And 99% of the time it's a man who brings up this this idea. At the same time, cuck holding a lot of times can be used to um Crystal Welsh calls it um eroticizing shame. And so this kind of this question kind of leads me to to think, you know, maybe there's something to that in this situation. Um but also, you know, just more broadly, I see a lot of of there's a lot of folks that email us who say that they got into cuck holding after their their partner cheated, like they were cheated on.

SPEAKER_01 52:29

Hey, coming.

SPEAKER_02 52:30

So I think that, you know, it could be, you know, listener, you know, Tampa, it could be that the fact that she's more sexually confident than you are, you're eroticizing that kind of shame around that, or or taking maybe what sting might exist from that and taking that sting off of there, um, so that it's that it's enjoyable for you. Um does it point to deeper insecurity issues? Look, we're not therapists. I think you need to go talk to a kink-friendly therapist on that one. We're just we're just a we're just a married couple who's living the lifestyle. That's all that's all we are. Do you have any thoughts on this, honey?

SPEAKER_01 53:08

I mean, I do think it's common. Um, that attraction to the imbalance. I don't think there's anything wrong with it, honestly. Um I I think that there may be some circumstances for certain people where it maybe points to deeper insecurity levels, but um overall I think it's a very common theme. So again, I don't think that you're in uh bad company. Uh I think that despite where it might stem from, it can still blossom into something positive and something fun if you have a partner that is wanting to engage in this with you.

SPEAKER_02 53:56

Yeah, yeah, well said, exactly. All right, guys. Well, that is going to do it for tonight. I want to thank you all for being with us again. Don't forget to follow Lexi on Fansly and just go to cuckholdresslexie.com and you can find all of her stuff and reach out to her about her coaching. Until next time, stay open, stay honest, and keep communicating. Lexi, you want to say bye to everybody?

SPEAKER_00 54:17

Bye, bye.

SPEAKER_02 54:18

See you later.