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On the Road with D from PeelingFlesh
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In this episode, D from PeelingFlesh joins the podcast for a laid-back conversation packed with laughs, tour stories, and plenty of chaos. We talk about how PeelingFlesh got started, the early days of the band, and how a group of friends having fun turned into one of the most talked-about names in heavy music.
We also dive into our recent tour, the wild energy on the road, and just how ridiculous the lineup was from top to bottom. Along the way, we share a ton of jokes, tell some behind-the-scenes stories, and discuss what makes touring with friends such a memorable experience.
Welcome to the World of J-Way podcast. Today I have a very special guest. A man who really needs no introduction, but I'm gonna introduce this motherfucker anyway. This is D from Peeling Flesh. I call him Mr. Harris, the money man, money bags, money stacks, whatever you want to call them. This is what this motherfucker is. He's the man, for real. And I'm very, very happy to have him on the show. So uh introduce yourself, Mr. Harris. Tell these motherfuckers what it is.
SPEAKER_00What up, what up? D from Peeling Flesh here. Out on the road, hitting the good old, you know, green room podcast. You know what it is. Do what we can where we can.
SPEAKER_02God damn right, goddamn right. Now, listen, we've been out on the road now for what? It's been about two weeks almost. I think so. Right. For two weeks, I've been having the most possible fun that I could possibly have with this motherfucker every day. And watching these guys play every single day is absolutely insane in every way, shape, and form. Selling out shows wherever he goes, you know what I'm saying, and just doing the damn thing. And honestly, uh, it's an honor for us to be on the tour. I appreciate you having Baywei. Um, and you know, it's it's been a fantastic tour. So what when did you know? Like, you know what I mean? Everybody, I know you've been in bands your whole life, I know you've been in the scene a long time. I I seen the spin kicks on stage, so I know the man hasn't passed. So, but when did you know, like, oh sh, you know, fuck man, my shit is kind of popping right now. Like, when when did it happen? When did you realize it?
SPEAKER_00Man, I'd say it was a little bit before peeling. I had a had a band play bass for, and I was like, hold on, we might have the recipe. We're killing it. Then COVID wiped us out, and that was it. And so then me and a few guys from Oklahoma got together, made peeling, we started cooking. It wasn't it was never supposed to be this. I know everyone says that. Everyone says, you know, it was never supposed to leave the living room, you know, but it was it was never supposed to be this, and people just really dug it, people just really rocked with it, and so we were like, hold on, might have something here. Still to this day, we're like, hold on, might have something here.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I was gonna follow that up with does it still shock you? Yeah, yeah. And see, that's the coolest fucking thing to me is that like, you know, it's like, I mean, you guys have done a lot of big shit now. You know what I'm saying? We talked a little bit earlier about opening up for Lauren Shore. I saw the places that you were playing. I mean, it's insane. It's insane. Right? I was following you guys doing that, thinking to myself, Jesus Christ, man, these motherfuckers took slam to the next level, you know what I'm saying? But it to me, it's just cool as fuck because I know that you're not an overnight sensation. I know none of the guys in the band, they're overnight sensations. For sure. Everybody's been trying to do this shit forever, and it's everybody's childhood dream, right? To be taken seriously by their peers and playing in bands that people give a fuck about. And to me, it's just always like um, it's always a really, really unique thing. And I say this all the time, like when you write music, of course, the intention is like a whole people fuck with what I'm doing. But you don't get to decide. Right. Right? Like that's for everybody else to decide. Exactly. So you do your thing and then people fuck with you. So it's gotta like the the feeling of doing appealing flesh, and and to me, and stop me if I'm wrong, but to me, from what I get from you guys is that this was really honestly like it was really kind of about fun. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? And like you can tell still when you play to this day that you guys are having a great fucking time. Yeah. So to have people watch you and really fuck with it and like really take to the music has got to be a very unique, very cool experience.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, for sure. It's like one of those things where like we started peeling because we were like, you know, I came from a hardcore band, Soto came from like a beatdown band, Joey came from like a math core band. Like it's we were all over the musical spectrum, and we're like, yo, what do we want to make? Right. What do we want to do? And we would just stop vomited out peeling and just that sound. We were like, cool, slam ban samples, that's what we want to do. And pure ignorance. And pure ignorance, purely ignorant.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, as soon as I heard it, I was just like, for me, and I and I think this is why it's it's as big as it is. And and I, of course, I don't have the exact answer, but for me, the first time I heard it, I just identified with it. Like I heard it and I went, oh man, like these motherfuckers literally took all the shit I like and put it together. And it's like the coolest part about it, and you know, you jokingly said the shit to me last night when you were done playing, is I mean, I can't help. Like if I'm watching you guys play, I'm Diddy Bobbing. Like, that's it. You can't do anything else. Like, if you're not moving during peeling flesh, you don't have a soul. Yeah, you know, don't even bother coming out if you're soulless. Right. Just stay the fuck calm. Because if you if you can't smile and bop up and down during that shit, then you are just you're at the wrong spot. Should have left the house. Right, exactly. This ain't for you. It's not for me. This is not for you. So it's just like I don't know, man. I've I've like really enjoyed it and I fucked with it coming into it. I saw you guys play a couple times uh previous to this, but being able to watch it every night, you know, it's not always the case. Yeah. And people say this kind of stuff all the time, but it's not always the case that you go on a tour and you see a band every night, and you just are really like, I feel like I'm digging in. Like I feel like I'm getting more into the band as I see you guys every night, which is fucking really cool.
SPEAKER_00And that's with us. Like, we we put this, we anytime we do like a headliner where like we have the option to do what we want to do with the lineup, 100% we're picking bands we want to see for, you know, have a little tour for 15 days. I want to see this band every day for 15 days. I'm like, I'm I'm that person that like I need to watch every band. Yeah. I watch Bay. And this is true, by the way.
SPEAKER_02This is true, and I said it to you the first night. Because this motherfucker, and and not just the tour package either. Right. I watched it. If you're an opening band and this motherfucker has not heard of you, he's going to know you because he watches every band. 100%. The realest of ones is this motherfucker right to my right right now. The listener can't see it, but he's to my right.
SPEAKER_00And I watch every band because like watching y'all kill it, watching cruelty kill it, watching Misty Link kills it, and I'm like, hell yeah, I'm powered the hell up. I'm ready for our set, man. All these brothers kill it. Like, y'all, I love having a lineup that motivates me every night. I hate I hate headlining. You tell me I gotta play last?
SPEAKER_02You tell me I gotta wait. We were talking about this earlier. It's like to play first for me is is honestly a treat. Yeah. Because nothing's happened yet. No.
SPEAKER_00So it's like all the places in the world are still open.
SPEAKER_02Exactly. And I get to set the tone. And it's like, bro, don't give me that position. You know what I'm saying? Don't allow me to set the tone. Give me headliner money. Let me open. 100%. You tell me I'm done with it.
SPEAKER_00Vans loaded. Vans loving it.
SPEAKER_01Stop. The food's open. 100%. Dispensaries have to be. I'm over here agreeing with you, Show.
SPEAKER_02Okay, fuck the dispensary. No, fucking dispensaries. Shut up, my dispensaries. Hey, listen, man. I understand I spent a lot of years smoking that shit. Anyway, it made me very happy until it didn't.
SPEAKER_00You know, so I respect you. I respect you. But like I love having like, you know, being able to be to like you said, dig in to every band every night and still like we were me and Tito were just talking about this. When we have a tour like this where like everyone is just clicking left and right, and everyone's so cool, everyone's kicking it. It sucks leaving. Like, I wish this tour was longer because all these we leave in family. I agree. Leaving family. Going until the next time.
SPEAKER_02And that's one of the best parts about it, though. Like it's the worst part, but it's the best part. Yeah. Because you know at the end when you're like legitimately missing people, that you really had a good fucking time. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? And it's it's not always that you get to do that and have that experience, but I have found that on a lot of the tours that I've done, as of late, I don't know what's in the air. I don't know if it's just the I'm kicking it with cool motherfuckers. I don't know what it is. But I'm making a lot of friends. And it feels good, you know what I mean, at this stage in my life to be making new friends and to be seeing new music every night.
SPEAKER_00Right, because I'm team no new friends. 100%. It has been for years. And I was like, I'm team, no new friends, music industry, people are weird, everything. I find shoots. Yeah. I feel like I'm a pretty good judge of character. I've been around a lot of characters in my life. So like it don't take a lot of conversations for me to be like, I fuck switches. Right, right. Like, cool, cool. We're all out here doing this thing, we're making money. Let's make some money together.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, for me, it's very light switch. You know, like I find myself, I have a hard time operating in the gray areas. You know what I'm saying? I don't know whether I'm on the spectrum or what it is, right? But I have a I'm very black and white. So my shit is like, I either fuck with you 2,000% or I do not fuck with you even mildly. You know what I'm saying? And it it I know right away. Yeah, yeah. It takes about three cents just for me to figure it the fuck out. And I haven't had that experience on this tour. And that's one of the coolest parts about it. You know what I'm saying? It's like every band's killing it every night, everybody's watching each other, everybody's, you know what I mean? It's just, it's a it's a really, really dope tour. Yeah. So for you, when did you start getting into music? When when what was what was your first, like, your earliest memory of music?
SPEAKER_00Man, I came from a musical family. I used to, my mom used to have a cutlass and just beaten RB, everything, everything from like, you know, Monica to Trina to you know Jodice to like she was playing Lil John and the East Side Boys. She was, you know, she was club life, so she was all the bangers. And I was she had she made this funny joke not too long ago. She was like, you know, he was always in the back seat, singing all the words he should and singing all the customers and everything. And I was like, Can you let me?
SPEAKER_01Yeah, damn right.
SPEAKER_02And so we're talking since car seats. Since car seats, yeah. For me, it's the same thing. Like I came up with just my mom, you know what I mean? And uh, and she was real young. Yeah, when she had me. So uh for me, you know, I'm I'm I'm probably a little older than you, but I was you know, I was like in the back singing fucking doggy style. Yeah, like you know what I'm saying, work for work, you know, looking at the cover art. I don't know what the fuck she was doing. You know what I mean? But this is just where I you know, it's how I came up, you know, and and I I wouldn't want it any other way though. Like, because I'll tell you what, like being able to be a sponge and grab all that shit off the radio, but grab all that like really like dope RB. Yeah, and all that really, really great hip hop of the time is like, man, it really didn't work.
SPEAKER_00I feel like that's how you make it mold. It's like it molds you into that like that musical encyclopedia because that from the get-go, you're not one-dimensional.
SPEAKER_02You're not just like, oh, you're just gonna be like, I mean, you can see it on stage where where you started. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? You can see it on stage. It's right. I mean, you you are grooving. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? From the minute it starts to the end. Big vibe. And the the best part about it though is, and I I can't say this enough, is you know, for me, we live in such a fucked up world, especially the way it is right now, that like, yeah, if I'm coming to a show, I don't need to feel fucked up. Right. I'm good. I'm already feeling fucked up. Right. You know, so like you come to see a peeling flesh, what you're seeing is a great time. Yeah, you're having a great time. Like you're interludes between songs, everybody's dancing, you know what I mean? Kids are like clapping, people are just all it's it's it's it's like it's like dinner in a show. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? It truly is. It's like you're giving so much more than what the average band gives. And I just a lot of respect to you guys. Appreciate you. You know, I mean, night in and night out, too, delivering every night. So it's uh and it sounds fucking fantastic. The band's fucking stupid heavy. Shout out Milo. You know what I mean? Yeah, right. Shout out to Milo as well. Shout out Milo on my end as well. Hell yeah, Milo. But yeah, so you started out real early, you're listening to RB, you're listening to hip hop. Where do you take it after that? When does hardcore come into play?
SPEAKER_00Man, I uh I had a family member, I had a relative, and he started showing me like, you know, new metal. He showed me, like, you know, corn, Lincoln Park, he muddled.
SPEAKER_02I used to call that shit guitar, guitar, uh, what I used to say, guitar bands. Yeah. That's why I used to say to my sister, I said, Yeah, we can do a bunch of guitar music. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? She was like, Oh, you gotta listen to corn, you gotta listen to this. I'm like, I don't fuck with guitar music. I just want to listen to DMX.
SPEAKER_00I don't care about guitar music. Guitar music. And like it got me into that, and then like slowly, like, I don't know, one day I just well, one thing leads to another, right? Yeah, one thing least another. Somehow I'm on MySpace finding slam bands, and like, you know, finding hardcore bands, and you know, then before you know it, I'm asking for my first bass for Christmas. And you know. You can tell that you're a bass player though, just in the way that you dance.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. In the way that you can tell, right? You can tell just by the way that you dance. It's it's hilarious to me because I I watch you and I'm just like, you know, some motherfuckers got rhythm, some people don't. Yeah. You know what I mean? But you, it's just like even you, you you hit the nuances of the cymbals in your dance moves. Yeah. And it's just as a drummer, I started playing real early in my life. So I love all the drum shit to me. It's just like, you know what I mean? And as I love playing bass for that reason. Because I feel like I'm locked in with the bedroom. You're locked in with the bedrums. Right. But watching you every night, I hit the bell hits and shit. I'm like, yo, this motherfucker's too big.
SPEAKER_00Every single part that pinches. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02I mean, if anybody watches you and thinks that you don't believe in what you're doing, they're just not watching. I mean, you might be blind. You know what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_00Like always have fun. We're like, wait, we just want, no matter what, we want everybody to, you know, just have a good time.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, and like you said, the world's shitty. The world sucks. Yeah. The world sucks. And it's, you know, it's an it's a non-debatable fact. You know what I'm saying? All you gotta do is open up your phone and you can find plenty of things to be upset about.
SPEAKER_00No signs of getting better. 100%.
SPEAKER_02Not never. Not never. You know what I'm saying? And uh but uh you do get this, you know, you'd get this, and for people that haven't seen Peeling Flesh Live, you get 45 minutes of fun. Yeah, like you literally can let go of your bullshit. And that's to me one of the most important parts about being a band this day and age and providing that service, yeah, is that like, and I always say that with Bayway, I don't want I don't want to do a set where people aren't having a good time. Exactly. I don't care about that. That's it doesn't mean anything to me. If I can't do that or deliver that, I don't even want to really want to play live. Yeah, you know what I mean? Because then right, exactly, exactly. And it's just it's great to be a part of the tour with like-minded people such as yourself, but it's just like seeing you guys every night, man, seeing you guys every night, like really really just embody that and like seeing the way kids react is just fucking insane, man.
SPEAKER_00It's absolutely nuts. It's a it's it's sick because like I love that translation from you know, us making something that you know we like, but also like one thing about us is like we like to have fun we're a band full of moshers and we're making stuff that we would mosh too 100%. And so it's sick to see it translate because you know, as band members, we know this is our like you know, our out. Yeah, but it's sick and sell to see it become everyone else's out. Yes, like everyone's like escaping whatever bullshit they're going through. Because it is escapism, escapism, yeah. And so no matter what's going on, you're at the gig.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, right, exactly. You can tell though, man, because every single every single member of your band just you know when the hard part's coming, you know what I mean? It's very it's it's it's there's no secrets. You know what I'm saying? And and we're all you it's a collective vibe, yeah, you know, and and coming from like in corn and shit like that, yeah, like you said, to see an entire room bounce, yeah, you know what I mean? Yeah, you make a thousand people bounce pretty often. You know what I mean? It's gotta be pretty fucking cool. It's gotta be pretty fucking cool. And I mean, like I said, I I can't say it enough. I really enjoy it. And this this motherfucker, I know he won't talk about it, but I'll talk about it so that people understand. But at the end of every single show, you know, you say what you want about whatever, who does whatever, and I'm not judging nobody, but I'm gonna tell you something about D. This cat gets off the stage, he goes outside, and he takes a picture with every single person who wants one. He talks to anybody who wants to have a conversation, and he's out there sometimes two and a half hours. I've seen this motherfucker out there just getting it. And to me, that's the love of the game.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, right?
SPEAKER_02And and that's also being uh to me, I see the little kid in you when you're doing shit like that.
SPEAKER_00That's you know, like so no one's ever called me out on that because that's literally what it is. I'm not I'm not a social person. I'm not a social person. None of us really want to be right. I'm not a social person, but you're a pothead, so you're definitely not social. I'm in my own head high as hell. I'm in my own head high as hell. Like all those people looking at me. Uh-huh. Oh no. Why me? Why me? But like I remember that wasn't me. Or that that that was me not too long ago. Right. Being like, yo, yeah, wishing you could have a conversation with this cat. Exactly, exactly. So I don't mind taking any time. No. I'll talk to you, your grandma, and your auntie and your uncle. This is the truth. This is like literally the truth.
SPEAKER_02I have rarely seen a person put in that type of effort at the end of a show the way that you do. And it's very, very unique. And being um being in my position, being able to see you do that every single night and see you interact with people, it's something that I've always found to be super important. But when you see somebody do it, and that's why I called you out on that effort there, because it's the kid in you. I know it is, yeah. Because I can see you're not taking the picture and then going, all right, next. Yeah. You're invested. Like, and every person that gets to have that conversation with you, whether it be for three minutes or 30 minutes, is actually getting the real version of you. And you're giving, and that's a lot to do. Yeah, that's a lot to do. To hear everybody's story, to do all of that stuff is a lot to do. And you know, credit to you because you you don't give a fuck. You are out there doing it. I appreciate that. And people should know that about you. People should know that about you because it's fucking to me, it's very important. What's going on, brother? That was Jay, by the way, who drives for cruelty, just peeping in and then getting the fuck up at this motherfucker. I guess he got the cones moved. Yep. But yeah, it's it's very, very cool to see that every night. You know what I mean? And I I feel like it's um, I feel like it speaks volumes as to why you have the fandom that you have and why you have the sold-out show night after night. And it's because you're willing to put that effort in and you're willing to put that work in. And not everybody does that. Yeah. So for real.
SPEAKER_00I feel like it's part of the show. I feel like they don't stop until the venue's empty. Yeah, I mean, the venue in the parking lot's empty. Cool.
SPEAKER_02That's and you know what though, that as a kid coming up, you know, I so many times you wish you'd have that experience, right? With with the people that you looked up to or fucked with or whatever. And so many times you don't have that experience. So many times you get the complete opposite of the stuff.
SPEAKER_00Sometimes meeting your idols ain't the good thing. I can attest to them, yeah.
SPEAKER_02I can attest to I've been there. So, but you know, to see you do that every day is it's um, you know, I just I it speaks volumes to the type of person that you really are. And to people that don't know you, um, or to people that, you know, that have the parasocial relationship with you, I want you to understand every bit of what you see is what you get with this cat. Like this, this guy is uh a very, very huge-hearted, loving individual when you get to know him. And I've spent the last two weeks with him and I fuck with him happy. I'm gonna be completely honest, man. I really do. Um, what do you guys got going on next, man? What's next for Pelin Fleshy after this run?
SPEAKER_00After this run, uh, we're going straight to Australia. And after we leave Australia, we're coming straight back here. You been to Australia yet? No, first time. You gonna hold the koala bear or what? Man, I kind of want to fight a kangaroo, but I don't think Australians like that. It's we kind of diesel, I kind of like a challenge.
SPEAKER_02Bro, I'm saying, me and my girl watching videos. You ever see the videos where they stand in the middle of the pond? No. Alright, bro, look, man. Alright, I'm gonna put you on. All right. So they stand in the middle of the pond, and then people go out to rescue them, and then they fuck you up.
SPEAKER_03They set you up. Straight up, bro.
SPEAKER_02I see the video on it. My girl's like, you gotta see this shit. I'm like, the fuck out of here, bro. Come out here, we ain't gonna jump in. Yeah, yeah, come out here, and then they drown you.
SPEAKER_00It's like an alligator boat. I have I have heard about them drowning shit, like they'll drown like your animals and shit.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, they're fucked up. Yeah, yeah. I don't know about that shit. You know what I'm saying? I'm still gonna go to Australia try to find out. You go if you get the opportunity to fuck with the koala bear, you doing it?
SPEAKER_03Ah.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I hear you. I hear you. I'm with I'm with you, bro.
SPEAKER_00Don't they got like syphilis?
SPEAKER_02Yeah, they get right, right. I don't want to get in that combo. Me, my my wife has this combo. My daughter, she's like, they're disgusting animals. Right. They got syphilis, right?
SPEAKER_00They eat their own shit. Right. Right. Hey, I can go to Riverside Tulsa if I want to count that, bro. But I might, I might, I might rock with something. I'm I'm down to see like a little, you know.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_00If me and a kangaroo have a conversation, he's cool. We might gap it up, little pets, you know. Hit him with a peeling flesh chain. You know what I'm saying? You know, ear scratch, get the hell out of here, you know. But uh I'm I'm mainly just I'm I'm getting used to these culture shocks. Went to Europe for the first time, yeah. Went to Japan for the first time, and I'm after all this, like for a while you're kind of nervous. Like, you know, I've never been out of, you know, the land of Canada's a little different.
SPEAKER_02Isn't it crazy? Isn't it crazy though, as an American, and I say this to people, isn't it crazy when you first go to Europe, you're so scared? Yeah, you're so scared. And then you get there and you're like, wait a minute. Yeah, is it is it nicer here?
SPEAKER_00Right, right. Oh my gosh.
SPEAKER_02Now you're scared about different shit.
SPEAKER_00Now you're scared about what you don't know. Yep, you know, right? I was like, I feel so safe walking around here. And someone was like, Well, you are in the stabbing capital of the world. I said, Oh, you're right. Yeah, but I don't feel it. No, I don't feel it. And you know what?
SPEAKER_02Stabbing is one thing, bro, but shooting, I think, from a you know, you gotta get closer, stab. You gotta get close to stab. Right. You know what I'm saying? A nice set of hands can can solve some of those problems. Right. You know, right. But stabbing is I can have a sword as well.
SPEAKER_00Right. That was the cool thing about Japan. Japan was, I know like y'all are trying to cook up something. If anybody can, go to Japan. And just as an American, go to Japan. I promise they don't hate us as much as you think they do. They actually really like having us there.
SPEAKER_02I can't wait. We we keep getting uh we keep getting asked, we put out a record um with retribute, yeah. Um, and we're we're probably gonna go out. I I'm gonna talk with uh I'm gonna talk with cruelty about it a little bit more. Um people keep asking, keep people keep asking, and I would love to do it. I kind of want to do the circuit though. Like I feel like it makes it more like the Australia. Like Australia, New Zealand, and then try to go to Japan, you know, and do like a month or whatever. Um it probably won't work out like that because I think we just got an Australian thing that we're gonna do. But yeah, that's how happened to us.
SPEAKER_00We yeah, we got the Australian offer first and then Japan.
SPEAKER_02Japan was crazy though.
SPEAKER_00Japan was amazing. Yeah, I want to move there and nobody can stop me.
SPEAKER_02A hundred percent. Yeah, I feel like that's what's gonna happen with my wife, man. Yeah, I feel like she's gonna go. My kid like takes Japanese in school too. So she like she can speak it, you know what I mean? So she's already ready. Yeah, yeah. She's like, fuck all this bullshit. That was me.
SPEAKER_00I came over there with a little bit, a little bit of Japanese. Zuma helped me with the rest, and I was like, I was out there spending money shopping, talking to people, doing your thing. Yeah, he said, he said, you know you speak good Japanese, they speak Japanese back to you. We was chopping it up out there. Oh shit. He was chopping it up. Feeling good about it. Yeah, going back to the same 71. They're like, who is he? Who is he? We keep seeing him. Who is he? He likes it here. Where does he live? Where is he from? Speaking of where does he live? So tell us about where you came up, man. I came up in Tulsa, Oklahoma. I came up in uh I know you was a back and forth from Texas.
SPEAKER_02We talked about a little bit too, right?
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I had uh growing up, I had a a stepdad who was from Texas, and so that's where like all my like, you know, Texas, now my Houston, Texas knowledge comes from. Uh-huh. And yeah, I think for hip hop, that's for sure. Big for hip-hop, big for hip hop, and not even just you know, everyone thinks just like chopped and scrooge, but like Texas is really good for RB. 100%. You know, you got Charlie Boy who does the RB and Chopped and Screw things, and that's so sick. 100%. And especially Houston. Especially Houston, Dallas, Dallas Rap Scene Smacks. Dallas, after they bended and everything, they got, you know, they got Fort Worth, you know, they pop off. People don't know that Dallas goes crazy. Yeah, like Dallas goes crazy.
SPEAKER_02I tell you what, man, we we've been um we've been doing Texas a lot. Yeah, and the more I do Texas, the more I fuck with Texas. Yeah, like I it's one of those places, like it didn't grow on me. Like I went there and I liked it immediately. But now every time I go, I feel like I like it more. Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_00So Texas is so weird because like no matter where you are in the US, you can just do a Texas run.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_00It's its own country. Right, it truly is. It's like well, we can hit Texas. It's like, well, can we hit Texas? I know that someone from living from Oklahoma, and I've talked to, you know, you know, homies up in like, you know, Seattle, they're like Cali, they're like, yeah, we're about to do a Texas run. I'm like, motherfuckers really just do Texas runs. Word, we're 100%. It makes sense though, it makes sense because I used to drive literally from the top of Oklahoma down to the bottom of Laredo, Texas, and that takes like way too long. Yeah, the way Texas is, even in Houston, you can drive, correct me, Houstoners. I think you can drive like two hours in Houston and still be in Houston. What's up with that?
SPEAKER_02I did it. I just did it on this tour. Yeah, yeah, I uh we had to get we had some van trouble, so I had a guy on the other end of Houston, the other side of Houston, fixing the van. So I was back and forth like the bro, I'm telling you, it was a fucking full community. It's huge, it's crazy. So is that is that big for for Oklahoma? Let's say, okay, you're you're you're a band coming out of there, you're you're probably gonna hit Texas first. Yeah, yeah, when it's when you start touring.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, it's uh you get all those like because like you know, Oklahoma's a popping scene, and so you'll get homies.
SPEAKER_02It is two shout outs to you guys soon, because I know I know you had something to do with it, you know.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, man. And it's like you get like the bleed-ins from like, you know, you have like the Texas homies coming up for shows, or you'll have like, you know, there is crossover. Springfield homies, or like, you know, homies from like New Mexico or Colorado and everything. And so you're always gonna probably either hit Texas first. I think the second place I hit was Colorado. Okay. And then the third place was like, you know, Springfield, like Missouri. You got Missouri and Kansas up there.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_00You got those little surrounding areas. I don't I don't consider Oklahoma the Midwest. I don't know if that's like a hot take. I don't know. It's I consider it the South, but I understand how every other place around it is like I understand Kansas, Kansas, Midwest.
SPEAKER_02You know, I mean, to me, if I'm gonna weigh in on it, which I'm gonna, I I feel like when you are in Oklahoma, yeah, if you understand Southern culture, then you understand why you wouldn't you wouldn't consider it that.
SPEAKER_00Exactly. The mentality in Oklahoma is so southern, it's not very difficult.
SPEAKER_02100%. 100%. Yeah, I mean, I lived in Florida a long time. Like I moved from Jersey down to Florida, I lived there for a while. So I I spent a bunch of time in the South. So when you start, when you when you live in the South and you start to understand Southern culture, you you can feel it. You can feel it. And you can feel it even when you like just very little things, right? Like you go to the gas station in Oklahoma and motherfuckers want to have a full conversation with you. You know what I mean? That's southern culture. Yeah, that's it. That doesn't happen everywhere. Yeah, you know what I mean. I'll never forget my first time going to the gas station. I just bought like two things, and they was asking me what I was doing at that. I was like, fuck, you need to know. Yeah, yeah, but it was had nothing to do with me. No, we just yeah, we're just that's just curious. We're bullshitting. Right. We're just bullshit. But that's how it is. So you know southern culture, though. Yeah, and and I would say Oklahoma falls into that culture. Oklahoma's mad southern. Yeah, and so you get like it's beautiful too, man.
SPEAKER_00I always enjoy going to it, to be honest with you. I love it. Everyone's like, you know, I I'm not one of those people who could ever really see myself moving out of Oklahoma unless it's Japan. Right. I moved to Japan and it might be.
SPEAKER_02But I'm appealing flesh would be from Oklahoma, Japan. Right.
SPEAKER_00Me and me and everyone I know in Oklahoma are in Oklahoma just chilling. We have no desire to do go anywhere else. We're like, what we got here is just fine. We're making it even better, and we're just we just we just chilling. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02I mean, I gotta say, the the scene from the time that Bayway started to the first time I went there over the course of three years, yeah, has exploded. Yeah, it's fucking crazy. That's sick. I mean, it's it's really crazy. Like we were we go, I seen you when we were on a snuff thing, yeah, and that that show was insane. I mean, we did the we did fly over with you guys, that was crazy too. It's just like, man, like and and the to the the part that I love about it, and it's for me, I love you coming from Jersey because Jersey's a melting pot. You get everything, you know what I mean? Oklahoma's kind of the same thing. For sure. You know what I mean? You get all you know what I mean. You look out off the stage, you're seeing everybody. Yeah, right? You see what America looks like. Yeah, right? Like you see, right, exactly. You see in every walk of life, motherfucker. And together. And that's the thing that I've really like, I've really, really learned to enjoy about like where hardcore is at right now, is that man, is it really in a spot where I feel like you don't have to look, act, be, or anything. There's no certain anything. Yes, you just like if you fucking with it, fucking with it. Exactly.
SPEAKER_00And that's one of my favorite things, because like I grew up, you know, traditional hardcore, and you know, you you you you're walking around, you're navigating life with someone who fucks with hardcore, and then you know, some guys from a hardcore band break off and they start a metal core band, and you're like, oh, this is Macs. Right, and then the metal core band's playing the hardcore fest, you're like, oh, this is so heavy. And so that's like I I feel like that's where like peeling translates well over into it because you know it's kind of just like at the state of hardcore, it's just you know, if you fuck with it, you fuck with it.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I mean, I feel like there's so much crossover for what you guys do though, like and even like in in some of the songs, like there's you guys have these elements of hardcore that you hide in these in these death metal songs, and it's it's awesome, you know. But it's like I just feel like also like from coming from that background, like because you have so much bounce, it's just so easy to dance to it. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? I mean, regardless of whether you're moshing or you're just literally dancing, yeah. You know what I'm saying? You just you guys make it so easy to do, and it's just so consistently easy that it's like, why? If you don't I really don't understand people that don't fuck with it. You know what I'm saying? Like, unless you're just not into cricket sounds or whatever, unless you're you're the one of those guys. I just vocal. Right, uh, whatever it is, you know what I'm saying? Right. But I I can't imagine not fucking with peeling flesh. That's that it's just it's it's crazy to watch what you guys have done, man. It's just crazy to watch what you guys have done. Dude, I really appreciate that. Like I said, I appreciate you, you know, believing in Bayway, putting us on this thing and uh and having us be a part of it because all it took was one conversation, I knew this had to happen. Oh, yeah. Dude, when I met you at preserving, I thought to myself, I was like, oh man, I really fuck with this cat. Yeah, you know what I mean? And and like I said earlier, it's it don't take but five sentences. Don't take no five. Yeah, it really don't. Yeah, I was like, yeah, this is this is gonna work out. Yeah, but um, yeah, the the thing, the the thing that just has me like really honestly floored is that like, and I told my guys this, bro, like you you guys don't need anybody on this tour. You could literally do an evening with peeling flesh, and there'll be a thousand motherfuckers here. And congratulations to you for that. Because I know you worked real hard for it. Um, and you deserve it, you really do. But to take people out, you know what I mean, and and to be able to provide this experience for other bands is really, really dope. It speaks to who you are as a person, yeah. Um and and to your whole band, really, because I the whole band is chill as fuck. Okay. You know what I'm saying? So I I don't know how you got so lucky. You know what I'm saying? It just works out perfectly. Yeah, sometimes it does, sometimes it does.
SPEAKER_00But if we have the opportunity, just like you know, to even like and shit. I feel the same way. I feel like you know, I feel like Bayway needs no one, I feel like cruelty needs no one, I feel like missing link needs no one. But if we have like that little bit more of push, we don't share that. Why not? Right, right. If we if we can put you on sport, then yeah, and and I mean there's no way you have it.
SPEAKER_02It's like it's there's no way you have it. Like I and and and like I will never be one of those people that does not give the props where they belong. Because to me, you know, like I said, dude, you could you could do this shit uh by your fucking self, and you would be just fine. You don't need Bayway. And the fact that you put us on is it means a great deal to me. So you believe that the world is baby? I have I have absolutely no problem, you know what I mean, uh giving giving props where they are due. So I uh it means it literally means a lot to me. So I just want you to know that. Um, but yeah, I mean, like, we're gonna sum it up because this motherfucker, you know what I'm saying, he's he's a very busy man. And by busy man, I mean he's a fucking great man. Okay, he's a great fucking man. But no, at the end of the day, um, I'm doing face fuck with a shovel tonight, you know what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_00Hey, hey, you heard it here. You heard it here. He's gonna stand by it now. He's gonna stand by it now. You gotta let them chicks pile up on the room.
SPEAKER_02Hey, listen, you know what I'm saying? Not everyone gets the invite, but you know what I'm saying? Some of us do. You know, but uh nah, nah. For real though, it's just uh, you know, nothing but great things for Peeling Flesh coming up. I know that. Um I hope you fuck the kangaroo up.
SPEAKER_00Actually, what what Bayway got coming up? What y'all got? Well, what y'all doing?
SPEAKER_02You know what this is this is kind of crazy now. So um actually uh we're doing Hellfest. We actually were it's kind of crazy because we got asked to co-head Mine with Suicide Silence, which like young me is like what's the homie shout out to Suicide Silence. Yeah, dude, I'm like, what's going on? You know what I'm saying? Like, I got uh uh I bought a um a 3X shirt off of Mitch on MySpace. That's right. And he sent it to me from his house. That's crazy to my mom's house. I still have it, probably gonna rock it that day. No, no, no, no. I'm talking this is earlier than that. It was before that. It was it was bludgeoned to death, was the shirt. Yeah, and it had a skull on it with like the world's cheesiest axe going into the skull. And the design, no one can see me, but the design is the size of like a Bible. Oh shit. And it's on a 3X shirt, so it was so dope. But I've preserved it all these years, yeah, um, because it's such a great shirt. Every time I bring it out, like Deathcore kids are like, yo, let me buy that off. Get the fuck out of here. You buy the shit off. Real real relic. Mitch took and touched this shit. You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? Right, exactly. He got that, I still got the stamp. No, but uh, but yeah, so we're gonna do that, and then um we're going out with No Cure, Big Ass truck, bolt thrower. Yep. I mean bolt cutter, sorry. And then um we're gonna be doing a headliner, actually. Um we we are doing our first headliner, probably our first proper headliner, and uh full US going from I think middle of September to the end of October.
SPEAKER_00Hell yeah.
SPEAKER_02So and then after that, we have some stuff that we're doing at home and and the couple of other things that are in the works right now. And I'm trying to work out an Australia thing and some Europe stuff again. But I I want to keep going back out to Europe. I I really do enjoy it. It's just like it's one of those things where you know what it is. You know what I mean? It's two and a half, three weeks of your life. Yeah, you know what I mean? So you gotta plan accordingly. Right, right, yeah. So, but yeah, so that's that's what we got going on, and uh and new music, always new music with us. So as Paul Dove walks in from the beautiful band Missing Link. Hell yeah. And that and that sums up this tour and what the vibes of what's going on around here. But yeah, I I really appreciate you doing a podcast. I appreciate you bringing Bayway out on the tour, and um, I appreciate the person that you are. You know, uh first and foremost, like for real, I really do appreciate the person you are. You got a shit ton of heart, and uh the amount of time that you spend with the people that fuck with you is is truly, truly beautiful thing. And not everybody does it. So props to you, motherfucker.
SPEAKER_00Man, we appreciate Bayway, we appreciate you, appreciate every single member of your band. I appreciate you. Thank y'all for doing this. This is you know dude, thank you for having us. This has been the best tour today. We've having too much fun.
SPEAKER_02I there's there's no way I can compare this to anything else. This I mean, come on now.
SPEAKER_00It's so different, it's so this is it makes so much sense, but it makes no sense. It's great.
SPEAKER_02It's great. As soon as I saw the lineup, I was like, this is so ridiculous.
SPEAKER_00They sent me the flyer, and I was like, oh hell hell yeah.
SPEAKER_02100%. This is my kind of show. Yeah, you're getting all the ridiculous shit you could possibly get packed into one and Zuma. And Zuma. Right. And Zuma. Just him by himself. I want a Zuma comedy set so bad. Dude, I'm telling you, so I'm telling you, I'm down for it. And I'm ready. I'm ready. We should convince him before the end of the day.
SPEAKER_00This is all we did in Japan, and we just laughed with Zuma for like a week.
SPEAKER_02Dude, it was great. My first second of meeting him, he started talking shit. Yeah. And I was like, bro. His shit talking is great. So sarcastic. It's great. Like, and I I had heard that, you know, the Japanese have like top-tier sarcasm. Yeah. And man, he did not disappoint. He's insane. He's a fucking maniac. Yeah. And it's great. It's great. But listen, I'm gonna let you go. I know you got shit you gotta do. I'm gonna get a feature out of this motherfucker too. I'm gonna put that on in there. You know what I'm saying? So I'm gonna get I'm not gonna keep him too long. But I really do appreciate you, and thank you so much for doing it. It means a lot to me. And uh, thank you for having us on this tour. No problem, man. D for motherfucking peeling flesh, kid. Yeah, yeah. You know, Mr. Harris, as I call him. That's the proper name for him. I don't want nobody kids come up to this motherfucker, you call him Mr. Harris before the photo. He'll hate that shit.
SPEAKER_00To call me Mr.
SPEAKER_02That's a bad thing for you. That's a bad thing. Thank you, no, bro. I appreciate you, bro. And uh thank you, thank you for being on. Let's go crush this shit tonight. Yes, sir.