Service Before Politics

He flew Harriers off ships, commanded an air-to-ground range, built a business, raised four kids, and still insists the most important leadership move is simple: tell the truth when you mess up. Tim Surber sits down with Craig Haggard, Indiana state representative and candidate for Indiana’s 4th Congressional District, for a grounded conversation about service, character, and what representation should look like for Morgan County and the wider district.

Craig walks through his path from Waverly and Mooresville to the Marine Corps and naval aviation, then back home to continue serving with the Air National Guard flying F-16s. Along the way, he shares a story from the runway that became a defining lesson in accountability and trust, plus why those habits matter in government just as much as they matter in the cockpit. We also talk about the sacrifices campaigns demand from spouses and families, and why Craig refuses to run a negative campaign even when politics gets ugly.

From visiting small town councils across rural Indiana to arguing that “flyover country” deserves more attention, Craig lays out what he thinks is worth fighting for. He also names the issue he would “plant his flag” on in Washington: federal spending and the national debt, along with a push for smaller, more disciplined government and a return to bipartisan governing when possible. If you care about Indiana politics, conservative leadership, rural communities, and practical constituent service, this one is for you.

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Transcript

Welcome To Good Neighbor Podcast

SPEAKER_00 0:00

This is the Good Neighbor Podcast, the place where local businesses and neighbors come together. Here's your host, Tim Serber.

SPEAKER_01 0:11

Well, good afternoon, everyone. Welcome back to Good Neighbors Podcast. I'm your host, Tim Serber. And today I've got a guest sitting on the call with me who's a good friend and somebody that I'm very excited to have on the show. He's a marine fighter, air pilot pilot, actually, fighter pilot, a former Air National Guard officer, a small business owner, a husband, and a dad of four, and a state representative. And now he's really bored, so now he's going to run for the Indiana's 4th uh congressional district. And uh he's going to ask the Indiana voters to send him to Washington. So everybody, uh please let me introduce you to Craig Haggard. How are you doing, Craig?

SPEAKER_02 0:54

I'm doing great. Just uh as you can see, I'm in my car. Uh been on the road all day campaigning. I'm after this, I'm off to two more meetings. So doing great. Appreciate you having me on.

Craig Haggard’s Family And Sacrifice

SPEAKER_01 1:06

Wow. Well, thanks for sitting down with us today. You know, I always tell folks this podcast is about Morgan County and the good neighbors who make it what it is. And you've been one of those neighbors for a long time. But before we dive in, you know, how's Brooke and you and the family doing?

SPEAKER_02 1:23

You know, the family's doing great. Uh my wife has uh been a saint through this because uh she I have been gone a lot. And if I have want to have dinner with my wife, I actually have to get with my scheduler and put it in a schedule to make sure that uh, you know, I'm able to see her. And so they're doing good. I think that everybody will be glad when May 5th is here and over with.

From Waverly To Harrier Pilot

SPEAKER_01 1:45

Yeah, yeah. Well, I agree with that, you know, and and I think what's important is it is you're you're giving a lot to run for this, and your family is one who a lot of time takes consequences, right? They don't get to see as much. You probably are missing a lot of things. I know your your wife uh performs at times, so uh I know it's hard on the family, and I thank you for two things your service. Thank you for that, and thank you for you know your service wanting to go to uh Washington, D.C. and represent the Indiana Fourth District. Um, you know, for the listeners who haven't met you yet, uh, you know, give us a short version. Who is Craig Haggard? Where do you call home? Where you know, what shaped you into the man setting today on this call?

SPEAKER_02 2:32

Well, I was uh raised in Waverly, Indiana, so just up the road from you, and which is Morgan County. So I've always lived in the fourth. I went to Mooresville, Mooresville High School, went to Hanover College. Uh always wanted to be a fighter pilot as a kid. So kind of everything in my life, what I did, didn't do grades, trying not to get in trouble. Um kind of shaped, or at least, you know, guided my path. And uh I joined the uh Marine Corps officer program, PLC Air Program. I was guaranteed an air contract, did all the testing, and uh started going to Quantico in the summers, uh, was graduated and was commissioned to Second Lieutenant Marine Corps in 1991 and went and did my infantry training, which all Marine officers do prior to your MOS school, and went to flight school, graded, graduated number one out of primary flight training in uh Corpus Christi, Texas, and then was selected to fly jets and completed that and did my carrier qualifications. I got my naval aviator wings and was selected to fly Avi A B Harrier jump jets. And went to um Marine Corps Station Cherry Point and uh took my training in the Harrier and then my first fleet squadron, uh VMA-223, which is there, which is the last squadron in the Marine Corps, the last Harrier Squadron still available. And um actually it's sundowning in the first week of June, so we're all going down for a week-long celebration of the closing of that squadron. And uh from there I did combat operations around the world, mostly off of ships. Uh the USS Kearsarge is the last ship I deployed off of, and came back, and then I was honorably discharged in 2000 and came back to Indiana, but I still wanted to serve. And I took an active duty commission in the Air Force for the Air National Guard and flew F-16s out of Terre Hope. And I was commander of the air-to-ground range at Camp Atterbury. Um, and uh did that for a number about 11 years, I guess, and well, a little bit more than that, but I retired as a lieutenant colonel in 2013. And during that time, like you mentioned, we have a family. I have a grandpa now, and uh actually did humanitarian missions for about 11 years, led folks down to Central Mexico and had a construction business on the side. So did a little bit of everything.

SPEAKER_01 4:43

Yeah, you're you you definitely uh are involved in a lot of things, got a lot of experience background. It's good that you got an entrepreneurship uh, you know, background also, because that's you know, we're we're all uh small business is a lot of that, and it's good to have somebody that will have our backs in Washington, D.C. on those type of things. Now you spent 22 years in the military, 11 years in active duty marine corps, and 11 years more flying F-16s for the Air National Guard, right?

Leadership Lessons From A Mistake

SPEAKER_02 5:14

Yeah, it was I was active duty in the Guard. So you have a bunch of different ways you can serve, but I was an actual active duty uh Air Force guy flying for the Guard. It's called an AGR Active Guard Reserve. Okay and uh did did that. And then when I got out, I actually worked for the NRA after that for a number of years uh for the non-for-profit side. And I'm I'm not with them anymore, but I sit on the uh National Board of Directors, elected to that national position about two years ago.

SPEAKER_01 5:39

You know, one thing I've always admired uh when people are in the military and and stay in, uh, you know, it builds a lot of character in that person. It gives them a lot of, I think it changes a lot of people, gives them uh the ability to believe they can do things that maybe they never thought possible. But, you know, what's the story from those years that still sticks with you and helps shape who you how you lead today?

SPEAKER_02 6:05

You know, you go in and they try to teach your basic leadership skills and all those sort of things, and you get you you're taught those foundational beliefs. And you know, we even have a required leading list, reading list. One was, you know, Sun Tzu, The Art of War, and then a bunch of different other books and lessons learned, uh, Soldiers Loathe, the Mobility of a Nation, Forgotten Soldier by Guy Say. I still remember those books that we read.

SPEAKER_00 6:26

Yeah.

Service After The Military And Statehouse Work

SPEAKER_02 6:26

But then we put those into, we saw, you know, our first leaders kind of also helped shape us to see how they led. My first commanding officer was Colonel Colonel Wesley Fox, who had spent 43 years in the Marine Corps. Um, he was a first sergeant up to uh Korea in Vietnam. He won the Congressional Medal of Honor as a first lieutenant, and then we were at his retirement ceremony as our last commanding officer after 43 years. And from leaders like that, and then staff sergeants and sergeants and and the compassionate leaders and the tough leaders kind of shaped kind of how I started to lead. And I'll tell you in the beginning, I'm sure I screwed up things and and you started to learn lessons, you know, when you did things the wrong way. And then and I used to say that you had those uh individuals that led by their shoulder. And what I mean is you say, Well, I got this rank, listen to me. But you started to find out quickly that Marines did what they had to do because of the rank, but then you had the different ones that wanted to follow you because of who you were. And um, I have um one of the important lessons I learned as far as respect from the troops, and I tell this story, it was sort of funny. It's uh how I had one of my screw-ups one time, but really learned a valuable lesson from that. We were in the Harrier, of course, we hovered, and doing conventional landings were actually an emergency procedure because it wasn't really made to do that. But we had to do it so many times a month if we had an engine fire anyway for reasons. And we were at Cherry Point, and I was people don't understand in the older aircraft, we had no I sound like the old guy back in my day when we flew, but we had no we had no computer aided stuff. It was off seat of the pants flying. We had a throttle, and a nozzle lever, we called her just a mechanical hydraulically actuated that moved the nozzles, and it was all by feel. There was no computer aid. So your hands are moving back and forth in the cockpit, and you would land and you would actually go to idle, you'd take your nozzles, you'd put it forward, you bring the power up to slow down, you bring the power back, nozzles back aft again, put this power up, and that was kind of a sequence. And as I'm rolling out on the runway at Cherry Point, you actually had a big mat in the center, and then you actually did an offset to take off again. I'll side note. It was an alternate uh space shuttle landing site, just as a side little fact there. But anyway, so I was landing out, I was doing back and forth of the nozzles, and instead of pulling the nozzles back, I pulled the throttle and shut that airplane down. I was on the runway, and all of a sudden you heard that the engine spooling down. I'm like, oh no, what did I do? And I'm a young first lieutenant at the time, and um and then I I row off into the center mat and and my nozzles are down, so I know I can't. So the first thing in your head is like, how can I get out of this without anybody knowing I did it? But I couldn't start the jet again because the nozzles were down, you're not supposed to, and I'm sitting there in tower comes over the radio. Hey uh Shank, I think it was our call sign. Shank one two, are you okay? Oh no, I'm fine, just get back with you in a second. And then so I'm still my wheels are turning. I'm like, oh, there's no way. And so finally I said, Hey tower, gonna switch the ground. I'm gonna need a tow. Are you all right? Emergency. I'm no, no, I'm good. Just you know, leave me alone. I'm switching to ground. And I call base, hey, I need to tow. Anything wrong? I'm like, no, no, no, guys, just tow me back in. And so when I got towed in, and uh we had to fill out a maintenance book that said what you did, and if the aircraft was up or down, so if it was broken, and I put that it was good to go. And in the remark session, I said I was an idiot. I shut down my plane on landing. And anyway, and then I threw the book in, and about an hour later, the maintenance officer called me back in. And I thought, oh, I'm gonna get chewed out now. This young guy screwed up, and the and the head uh warrant officer for the uh maintenance was there, and they both shook my hand. And I thought, okay, is this some sort of joke? And they said, Listen, we know this has probably happened before, but if you had written that the engine just shut down, we would have had to pull the engine, that it would have been out of service for a week or two, we would have to do all these tests, and you were just honest about it. And so that was a huge lesson to me. And at that point, all the maintenance guys, the enlisted guys, I was like this mini-her of pilots because I was honest and instead when I screwed up. And I learned a lesson in life to just admit when you're wrong, admit when you screw up. Um, I don't know. That was just anyway, as far as lessons, that was a huge lesson for me on something stupid I did, and thank goodness it was nothing that, you know, not nobody was was in danger. But um, it was a lot of lessons like that where you realize just tell the truth, be honest, say when you screwed up and learn from it, and then brief the other guys on why you screwed up. And that was so that was one of the important lessons in life, along with um when I went to POW training. One of the things they taught us there is how you get through interrogations when you're beaten, starved, uh, tortured, and all that kind of stuff is to tell. And this may surprise people under interrogation. The best way to go through it is to tell the truth. Now, not tell the truth on you know the secret stuff they want to know. Right. But you can you can find something like an OCS or whatever, and you'll just talk, talk. And it was shown in Iraq and other places that the guys that did this, they just wrote and wrote and wrote and wrote. They just, hey, I'm getting information. It was worthless information. But the lesson it taught me is because they said, you know, whether you're tired, beaten, tortured, incoherent, you always remember the truth. And once again, that was another lesson saying, hey, just be honest and you can lay your head down at night and and not have to worry about what you said.

SPEAKER_01 11:44

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 11:45

So a couple of lessons from the military.

SPEAKER_01 11:48

Yeah, well, that's and that's huge taking into Washington, DC, right? And it's something that I know throughout your life, you have lived with that, so I and lived by that. So, you know, I'm I uh I love hearing these stories. I think uh I I'm thinking seriously of doing a a a military type of podcast so I can just bring on military personnel and talk about it. I think it uh would be a neat thing to do. But you know, you've done a lot of things and and but you've never slowed down. You know, what pulled you to keep just building things instead of just staying in one lane?

SPEAKER_02 12:25

Well, I have to say my father is very similar. He's 83 and and still going into the company and still working and doing things he shouldn't do at his age. And and I think I I may end up being a lot like that. But um, you know, I always wanted to serve. There was a time between when I retired and I was working for NRA and I was raising money and speaking about the Second Amendment, I felt like I was still, you know, fighting for the Constitution and things. And when I got out of that doing the program manager stuff and even some of the side businesses, that was great. But I kind of felt there was something missing. And uh when I was asked to run for state rep my first time, I thought this is a way to get back in and and serve and be part of the process and just a continuation of that life service. And now I think instead of going in young, I think it's great having all this experience and not necessarily procedural things, things like that, but to continue to fight for people around me. Uh I've been blessed to be able to be in the position I'm in, to be able to to have done the things I've done and have that experience. And I don't think it's and I think that needs to be used to continue to serve. I just I feel that poll to to serve in my four years in the statehouse, although frustrating at times. Uh one of my biggest uh things that I've really enjoyed is my constituent services by being able to help those outside of legislation, but being able to help those in the community that have problems, real problems that it's hard for them to get solved. But because I have this this silly title of state rep, you know, people pick up your phone calls where you know who to call and you're able to help folks. And uh I just I don't know, I I guess I'm drawn to that for whatever reason.

SPEAKER_01 14:08

Yeah. You have a servitude at it, uh servitude gift, really, also, you know, and that's and that's wonderful. And and and you've lived in Mooresville most of your life, and you raised four kids there, and and you're uh with your wife, Brooke, and you're the uh and I are you still serving uh as the church administrate on the church administrative board board?

Why Small Town Indiana Matters

SPEAKER_02 14:29

No, I did that for about 10 years, and I was also the head trustee for about three years, but and not to get on the religious side, but I was raised in the Methodist church, and as you a lot of people know, they kind of split. And I wasn't really a fan of the direction of our church. So my wife and I actually went to a tremendous amount of churches in different denominations, and so we actually found a new home down in Martinsville at the at the Baptist Tabernacle church down there. And and uh so now I guess I'm Baptist, but uh and I still I still dance, but uh actually I don't my wife actually wants me to go dancing more. But no, we found a great home there, wonderful people.

SPEAKER_01 15:10

You know, and for the folks of Morgan County that may or may not know you, but what makes this part of Indiana worth fighting for for you?

SPEAKER_02 15:19

Well, you know, I would in the past few weeks and I kind of wrapped up. My goal was I've been doing this for about two and a half years. Yeah, and I said to my folks, it was first exploratory, one of the biggest things I wanted to do was make sure I knew the district. And I've spent two and a half years visiting not only all the big places, but I've visited almost every town councils of every small town in Indiana. And uh I've I've discovered towns I did not know existed, yeah. You know, towns of 300, 400, 500. Um, and I actually found my favorite town council president in Jamestown, Indiana, which I never knew existed, which is in Boone County. And the town council president there is uh uh she's an elderly lady. Her name's Carol, but she goes by cookie and she's the sweetest lady in the world. And you know, you want to hug her the first you know 30 seconds you talk to her, even though you know that might be inappropriate so I didn't. But uh she's just these the people in all these small towns, you know, like bigger than Waverly, but you meet them and all these individuals they don't have enough money for their towns, they don't really get paid a lot to do this, but you can tell everyone I really care about their community. And uh I just came from, and I'm gonna screw up the name, but I think it's Pinewood, which is in Warren County. And I met the town council president there, and she was so proud of her town telling me about, you know, they still to this day give every kid a little Christmas gift, um, you know, at Christmas time, and how um, you know, one of the first uh football games, part of uh the paid series pre-NFL actually existed in the in the town, and their football team was the villagers, and they have a little museum, and they're so proud of these areas and and they love their community. And these are the folks that's the that's the majority of the fourth. It's small town, it's rural America, where you could break down and somebody eventually stops to help you out. And I think that a lot of these the fly, you know, we're called the flyover states. But I'll take the flyover states of the Midwest and the people that I grew up with any day. Um, and those are the people that I think are forgotten because we're not the east of the west coast or not even in the bigger cities in Indianapolis.

unknown 17:32

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 17:32

And I think they're worth fighting for because they tend to get ignored.

Running For Congress Without Negativity

SPEAKER_01 17:36

I I'll agree with you on that, and I and I think that is very important. And it would be nice to really go back to the small town at attitude of of people because uh, you know, it is. It's something like you said, you break down, somebody's gonna help you. It's just it's a good feeling. We've been here for uh well, I I was born and raised in Lafayette, and we've lived down here in Morgan County now for over 30 years, and uh it really what attracted us was the way families were important to the area, and we really enjoyed that. And and you know, talking about families, you know, when you decided to make this run, I know in I think it's August of 2025, you decided not to go for re-election uh for your House seat in Indiana. Uh, you know, what conversations did you have with Brooke and your kids before you made the call?

SPEAKER_02 18:30

This is one where I thought it was very important. I actually started asking other congressmen and people, you know, how many days are there? I Googled it. And you're on a you're in DC on average 150, 155 days out of the year.

SPEAKER_01 18:42

Wow.

SPEAKER_02 18:42

And so, you know, my kids are grown. I still make it a point. The ones that are still in the state, you know, not every Sunday, but most Sundays we make sure we still have a dinner together, that we still have movie night. Um, you know, we're going actually this Sunday, we're gonna take a little break and actually go to the Japanese fest downtown or the festival. And I think the family's so important. I still, you know, have breakfast with my mom and dad on occasion and still go to their house. They live close by. And so that was important to me to let them know that I'm gonna still schedule those times, but I still want to serve. Because I think just like the service, your um your family are the ones that people forget that their sacrifice is probably more than yours because you're working and they're the ones that are waiting for you or or take the arrows when they should arrows should only come to me, they go to your family. And um so we had a lot of conversations, talked to my mom. I said, you know, that they might get nasty. Um, and we we've already seen in the past week or two the other side being a little nasty, but you know, I've never run a negative campaign. I didn't then, I'm not going to now. I'll I can honestly say I'm the only one in this campaign that hasn't been negative, and I'm not going to because I don't think tearing down someone means you're you're great. You know, so that's great. That person's horrible, but how does that make you look good? So I I just want to concentrate on on what I can do, what I can offer, what I want to do, and and let them choose that versus the the nastiness. And I think when I've seen that negativity, that's what people don't like in DC. That's what people want to change. And I think I just think that's the wrong way to go about it.

SPEAKER_01 20:22

Well, you know, and and good segue into your slogan. Give us your slogan that you have.

SPEAKER_02 20:32

I don't know, you remind me what my slogan is. I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 20:35

The one on your side is Washington serves itself, Craig serve you.

SPEAKER_02 20:40

Yeah. Because I've actually had a few slogans out there, you know, ready to continue to serve and uh this thing. But you know, and those we try to keep that theme that I say nobody in DC votes for you, only people back home, and that's who you need to serve. And it's not the special interest, and it's not, you know, you hear, oh, you see people, and I've had people say, Oh, you're gonna get out there and you're gonna change it, you're gonna be this horrible person. And I'll say to them, I understand why you say that. But I've never done that. I stayed true to who I am in the state house. I voted against the caucus when I thought it was unconstitutional. I have gone the opposite way, and then I have a record of doing that. And not I I don't want to be a disruptive candidate. I want to be somebody who governs, but also somebody who who serves all sides, not just my side, but the other side, because you know, people have to remember that uh the beautiful thing about our country is that you can disagree, you can be crazy and wacko or whatever, but as long as you're not hurting anybody breaking the law, that's why this country is great, because you can do that without being thrown in jail or hung in the town square. Um, and we need to celebrate that. And um, you're right about that.

The Debt As America’s Top Threat

SPEAKER_01 21:50

I can, you know, I remember the days of uh Democrat, Republicans getting along, working together. Ronald Reagan was a great example of that, and probably the Of it uh of anybody I've seen to be able to pull two people together parties. But yeah, you know, and I think that's important for the families to know that you're there you you will do what you need to, you will fight for the people of your district, and I know that for a fact. And you you definitely have Lisa's in my support. Um my wife just wrote uh uh uh rebuild rebuttal to somebody uh in the paper just this weekend or this Thursday. And uh, you know, we've we've got to know you and Brooke and have a lot of respect for you and know you will come or go to Washington and really fight for us. So when you talk about issues like border security and protecting farmland from foreign ownership and the Second Amendment, you know, standing up to the Chinese Communist Party, of everything on your plate, what's the one issue you'd plant your flag on uh, you know, as a thing that you absolutely have to move the needle on when you get to DC?

SPEAKER_02 23:03

Well, people ask you, Leon, what's your biggest threat to the country? And you know, and in your mind, you think of China, North Korea, Russia, border security, and all those things are important and they're definite threats. And also we can deal with more than one thing at one time. But I think our biggest threat is ourselves. And I say that because both parties, we built this$39 trillion debt. And every great society or every society in history has fallen for economic reasons, driven by war, famine, whatever. And all those other things are important and they're threats, but none of it matters if we fail as a country. And so I think the spending, uh, the wasteful spending, the the unconstitutional uh organizations that we spend billions and billions of dollars on, uh, we need to streamline that because government just keeps growing and growing and growing. Taxes keep going more and more and more. And uh I think the spending needs to be under control. We need to just make a smaller government. And we have to tackle that. I mean, I'm a huge believer in the balanced budget amendment. I think we need that because I don't, you know, if you really want to celebrate, the only president in, you know, that I can think of that balanced the budget in my lifetime, it's Bill Clinton. You know, and a lot of Republicans don't like to hear that. Now, having said that, to your point, he was working with Newt Gingrich, who's a Republican who's Speaker of the House, and they work together much like Ronald Reagan and Tip O'Neill. But we need to get back to that, fight each other, you know, during the campaign. That's fine. But when you get there, do what's best for the Americans. Remember, you took a note to the Constitution, not a party, and quit wishing the government or the country fails if your guy's not in charge of the White House. And that goes on both sides. And I see that, and I think that's a little treasonous. And it seems like people just continue to campaign during their two years, at least for a House member, two years instead of okay, campaign's over. Let's get to work together and do the right stuff. Because I can tell you most of my Democrats in the state house really do want most of the same stuff. So I know that, and I know there are good folks there, and you always see the the crazies on TV, but I know that. So prove it.

unknown 25:05

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 25:06

When the reelection's over, let's work together and and get what, you know, get at least what we can agree on done for the country and not and quit campaigning until the next campaign.

Why Voters Should Trust Craig

SPEAKER_01 25:16

Well, and and just accept who the leaders are on both sides and work together, you know. Uh I I don't understand it. That's a big uh, you know, Lisa and I have a lot of frustration with that and and not happy about it, but that's just the way uh things are. But we hope it changes and sending people like you there will help make that happen. And I we've gone over a little bit, so I'm just one last question for you. The the fourth stretches from Martinsville up past Lafayette, a lot of ground, a lot of communities there. If you had 30 seconds to look someone in the eye who's never met you and tell you why they should trust you with their vote, what would you say?

SPEAKER_02 25:54

I would say I have a proven life of service, a proven um from my military service to my humanitarian service to my family, successful kids, which I think that always says something about the parents. That I have taken the time to warn the district, get to know the district, that I answer every phone call. I've given my personal number out to six, seven thousand people. I answer all of them, even the screaming calls, and and say to them, listen, you you have to do more than just go to Washington and push a button and then go to your nice dinners. You actually need someone who will be responsive, who is available, who will actually fight for you and not just go there. And there's a difference between just showing up, sitting down and pushing a button and someone who fights for the people in their district. And you can't fight for them if you don't know your people, you're not accessible, and you haven't you don't really know the area. And I I think I have a history of that, and I think that that's that's the big that is the big difference. What's the big difference is I think you need somebody who listens, knows people, and who fight for them, and not just show up every two years during an election and then push a button when you're in DC. So that's that's the biggest difference.

How To Follow And Support

SPEAKER_01 27:05

Yeah, and I can say uh testimony to that you do answer your phone, you do get back to people because you and I have had uh discussions on the phone, even texting. So uh that is I think it will be cool if I can do that while you're in Washington, DC. So we'll I uh and I know you will do it. So I you know it's it's good to have a voice there that we can talk to and and have somebody there for supporting us. You know, and and before I let you go, everybody, uh Haggard for Congress is his website. Uh Craig, before we go, uh where can folks find you, follow your campaign, and get involved if they want to help.

SPEAKER_02 27:44

I know it's just like you like you said, go to HaggardforCongress.com and and you can put your information there and it has my history and ask questions. And if you really want to talk to me, just let us know on the website and I'll I'll get back with you.

SPEAKER_01 27:58

Well, I appreciate your time, Craig. It's taking a little bit longer than I told you, but uh well worth it. And uh I'm looking forward to seeing you uh get to Washington, D.C. and and definitely uh be the guy that's uh that's out there fighting for us in Morgan County. So thanks a lot. You have a great sleep trip. We'll talk to you later.

SPEAKER_02 28:22

All right. Thanks. Take care. We'll see ya. See you, brother.

SPEAKER_00 28:28

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