Palm Lines & Crystal Signs: A Deep Dive with Geoffrey

Can the lines on your hands reveal your path?
What happens when crystals are used for intuitive messages?
And why does tarot feel so oddly accurate sometimes?

In this episode of The Sedona Psychics, Geoffrey breaks down palmistry, tarot, and crystal work in a way that’s approachable, fascinating, and surprisingly down to earth. We talk symbolism, intuition, energetic patterns, and even witness a live crystal casting during the episode.

This one feels like sitting in a mystical little shop in Sedona having one of those conversations that changes the way you look at yourself afterward.

If you’ve ever been curious about divination, psychic tools, or the deeper meaning behind spiritual practices this episode is for you.

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Transcript

SPEAKER_00 0:00

Hello, everybody, and welcome back to another episode of the Sedona Psychics podcast here in Sedona, Arizona. This is kind of where we're getting into the nitty-gritty of things, pretty much where intuition's gonna start getting loud and life's gonna get more magical for yourselves. Okay, let's work it. Today I have Mr. Jeffrey with me. He is going to be going into his palmistry, his crystals, and other modalities that he uses during his sessions as well. So again, we're even gonna do a little sample for you guys as well. So this is gonna be fun. So say hi to what people, Jeffrey.

SPEAKER_02 0:37

Hello everyone. Jeffrey, really happy to be here back on the Sedona Podcast. So does the Sudona the Sedona Psychics podcast. I guess we'll just get that out of the way right in the beginning, the tongue tidiness.

SPEAKER_01 0:48

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 0:48

But um, yeah, looking forward to what we're talking about today. A lot of stuff that I like to do.

SPEAKER_00 0:52

Yay, yay. So starting out, we're gonna kind of jump into palmistry a little bit. So um, as somebody who's in this field, I feel like palmistry and like the older types of divination are kind of slowly fading away. Um, and it seems like a lot of people are possibly starting to bring that back as well.

SPEAKER_02 1:12

I think it's a lot like everything in life, like ebb and flows. I'm sure bell bottom jeans will be back in a little while too.

SPEAKER_00 1:18

Oh, they're already.

SPEAKER_02 1:37

But um it's palmistry has been around, it's one of the oldest styles of divination because it's one of those ones like you had to think back in the days, like there wasn't tarot cards unless you had you could afford paper to make your own.

SPEAKER_01 1:49

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:49

And so kind of and draw your own cards. But palmistry has always been one of these things, especially like in the gypsy cultures, where it's like you always have something you can use as a tool to read.

SPEAKER_01 1:58

Right.

SPEAKER_02 1:59

And so it's it's been around a long time. And here's the other thing that a lot of people don't know about is like not only can you read poems, you can read people's eyes. You could read people's feet, the lines on their feet. You could also read other parts of people's bodies too. And then there's a name for all of it, but this has been around for a long time. It's been in ancient Greeks, it's been around with the Egyptians, it's even been in like the Asian cultures as well, even in for certain Aztec industries, like they're always reading seers who could read certain parts of the body. And I I think people that are doing it today are definitely doing it from some kind of past like energy as well.

SPEAKER_00 2:36

Right. Well, I of course me going into the gutter, as you were saying, like people can even read the lines on your feet.

SPEAKER_02 2:43

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 2:44

I go to, oh Lord, the people who have feet position.

SPEAKER_02 2:47

Like you'd be surprised. Like, it's like there's certain ways to read the eyes, there's certain great ways to read the um the nipples on people. It actually represents a lot of chakra energy as well.

SPEAKER_00 2:57

That's interesting. I didn't know it went that far. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 3:00

I had a past life vision of myself as a Spartan knight, and there's a woman who was reading men's genitalia, and people were getting off to go into like King to March On. People are like, Dinokeys, are you gonna do this? I'm like, No, we don't have time for that. But it's definitely like one of those things that's like there's there's been modalities around it in a lot of different ways for a very, very long time.

SPEAKER_00 3:21

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 3:21

Like when it comes, like getting back to like out of the gutter real quick.

SPEAKER_00 3:25

Um gotta kick things interesting.

SPEAKER_02 3:27

Exactly, exactly. But it it's true. This is yeah, you can look these up. Like, I don't know all the names of them right now, but going back to palms, the one thing I really like about palms is palms is all your own energy. It's not using anybody else's card, it's not using any like this the sear or the reader's energy. It's like it's all your own energy. And so when I read palms, I read both hands, I read both sides. Like I definitely check like fingernails for help and things like that, because there's a lot that can be told to that. And definitely like why I always read both palms is your non-dominant hand is like the blueprint for your life. It's like how your your spirit guides, the universe and divine expect things to work out for you. And then your dominant hands, like how the games actually be employed. And so the other really cool thing that I like about palms a lot is unlike your fingerprints, which can kind of tell like if your fire, earth, or water sign are kind of in that aspect based on how the waves go in your fingerprints. But the lines on your palms can actually change over time based on what you're doing. Short story, really quick. I was doing a palm reading for a gentleman in Minneapolis, really well-off guy, like hand-stitched Italian shoes, like really nice suit, Rolex watch. And I was like, you've just seen all these lines of connections over here on your palm. And he's like, This is and I'm like, I'm actually having a vision. I'm like, you're like in the woods, chopping wood, little A-frame cabin. He's like, This is yes. I don't believe in any of this. I'm like, hey, if you're not happy, you don't have to pay. And then about a year later, I was down out to eat in downtown Minneapolis, and this guy literally ran across the street because he saw me, almost got hit by a car.

SPEAKER_03 4:59

Like, my foot was on the grill, like, oh shit, oh, shit, ooh, shit.

SPEAKER_02 5:02

And he comes running up to me and just slaps a bunch of money in my hand. I'm like, he's like, I am so sorry for the way I acted. I recognized him right away. And um, he's like, Let me explain. I come from a very well-off family. I never had to do physical labor before. When you said I was chopping wood, I thought you were making fun of me. He's like, now I own seven different wood chopping axes. I've got that apron cabin and that muddy G. Because this is the first time in my life I've actually been doing things for myself. And because I'm chopping so much wood, the lines of my palms are changing, and those connections that you said I was making are now lining up, and I'm happier than I've ever been. So that's one of the cool things about working with Thomas Street. You can see, like, am I talking with my spirit guides? Am I tapping into my touch? Am I being creative right now? You can actually see if you're starting to work towards those things. Right. And so that's one of the cool things about palms. It's like a lot of people, especially at today's age, they're like, am I tapping into my spirituality? Am I figuring this out? Like, am I making any progress? It's like if you look on your palm and if you keep trapped, it's like, yes, I actually am self-sacrified out of the back.

SPEAKER_00 6:03

Good job, me.

SPEAKER_02 6:06

So, and there's like like palms can be a really good way to let you know where waypoints are in your life.

SPEAKER_00 6:12

Right, right.

SPEAKER_02 6:13

And it was like, there's definitely times like where I've been looking at the heart and health line. I've been like, Did you just kind of go through some stuff? Like health-wise, and they're like, Yeah. I'm like, don't worry, it was just a wake-up call, so you'd have like redirect yourself. Right. And I'm like, don't worry, you're not gonna have anything else until you're almost in your 80s again. And they're like, okay, thank God. It's like this, so there's like cool things where you can just kind of like see things in people's poems. It's like not only are you just reading where the lines are, you're reading like the intensity of the line. Is it deep? Is it like because that those are usually people that are really serious? Is it deep and wide? Those are people who are serious but can be open. There's some people who are just kind of like it's very fake lines. It's like they're very much going to be more a light-hearted individual in that aspect, depending on where that line is.

SPEAKER_01 6:57

Right.

SPEAKER_02 6:58

So you can also read a lot of people's personality traits based on how the lines are on the palms. The other thing that I do, which is one of the things I've noticed that a lot of other palm readers don't do very much, is I also read all the mounts on the hands as well. So, because now so you know do you read lines, you also read the mounts. So underneath like each finger, there is a mount. Okay, in that it represents something different. And it's a lot of them relate very closely to certain chakras that we had, that we all have to look with as well.

SPEAKER_00 7:27

Yeah, and show the camera what you mean by by mounts. So like put your hand up to the camera and kind of point to like what you're talking about.

SPEAKER_02 7:34

Underneath your corner finger, right here, it's referred to as your mount of Jupiter. So that is your leadership. This is gonna represent your third eye a lot, and kind of the thoughts that you're putting out. Underneath your middle finger is referred to as your mount of Saturn. So that is your scholar. So that's gonna be like your intellect, your thoughts, kind of things like that, kind of what that goes. It also deals a little bit with the third eye as well. Ham almost a little bit more than the mount of Jupiter. But then underneath your ring finger is the mount of Apollo or Temple of Apollo, and kind of that deals a lot with the sacral chakra. So that is your creativity, that is your artistry, that's your passion, that's your joys. So, and then like underneath your pinky is that is the mount of Mercury, and that is your communicator. So that's gonna be very much your throat chakra. So a lot of times, especially off the line of fate or line of destiny, you'll see certain little like dot dot dot dot dot. And it's kind of like you can see how people's spirit guides are trying to communicate them with but they're being stubborn about it. So that's one of those lines that you could pay attention as it starts to grow, as you start like working with your spirit guides more, asking them for help, asking them for guidance, things like that. You can start to see that line strengthen, or like you're starting to do more of those passion projects of creative projects. You're starting to paint or do archery or ride horseback, things that you've never done before, you're holding your hands different, you'll start to see the lines of the alms change in that way as well.

SPEAKER_00 8:54

Yeah, well, this is an interesting take because I feel the way that you're describing how you do palmistry, which again, guys, there's no right or wrong way that you do things. It's however feels right for you. Okay. But I like how that you're able to also kind of pick up on like the spirit guide aspect of that as well, and not just like, oh, your heart line, your fate line, and all of that. You go deeper into it as far as like even communicating with your spirit guides and things like that.

SPEAKER_02 9:28

It depends on where things are on the palm. Um, for sure, for sure. And sometimes like I'm going over people's lines and I'm not getting much. And there's other times when I'm going on the call, I'm getting full on visions of this is what you need to do, this is what try to talk to you. And sometimes like I tap into past lives as well while I'm doing it. But like one of the things that I pay attention to on palms is X's. X's are important on palms, marks a spot.

SPEAKER_01 9:52

Like you gotta pirate it. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 9:54

And so I look for crosses, I look for stars, I look for X's. And so those are usually like serious waypoints in a life, especially when you're actually on your destiny, when you're on your spiritual pilgrimage, when you're on your path. That's when the X's really start to line up. And so it's kind of like when you see like a just a free-floating X, it's like you haven't accessed that gift yet. You haven't started working with that guy, you haven't started that cycle in your life yet. And so, like, I deal I teach people a lot about quantum jumping as well and karmic contracts based off of poems. Because sometimes you see like the lifeline that just comes down here and books all the way around and the demo around, and there's no like line of fate or line of destiny. Like, those are the new souls on planet Earth. There's nothing wrong with that. But they're like, I wanna grow up, I wanna fall in love, I want to have babies, we don't have babies that drop it out. Baby means we're gonna die happy. It's like, okay, new soul, you're here. You're just probably first down a couple first couple times being a human being on planet Earth. All right, first time with those are that's new soul energies. I'm a strong believer that especially to be here on Earth, because I think we're a Keystone Planet and universe, and that that it's Earth school. Exactly. Like we signed up for everything that happens to us while we're here. And so for me, I refer to that as a karmic contract. And so a karmic contract's like you're hanging out in the afterlife, whatever that you might think that might be, and your angels or your spirit guides or your ancestors will come up to you, like, hey, Emma, we've got some stuff going on on planet Earth, and you are perfect to take care of this. So if you take care of this, this, this, and this, we will reward you with this, this, this, and this. Uh-huh. And so, like when it comes to a karmic contract, what a lot of people end up doing is just constantly taking care of the bad stuff. And they don't realize that as part of that contract, you have to get all your rewards. And if you don't complete your karmic contract in its entirety, you have to repeat the whole life all over again.

SPEAKER_00 11:52

Lord, get it right the first time, y'all.

SPEAKER_02 11:55

I I have been with people, like, I'm like, does everything feel like groundhobs day new to you? They're like, Yeah, I'm like, because this is the 50th time you've lived this life because you've never left your partner.

SPEAKER_00 12:04

Yeah. Or you're not learning what you're supposed to learn.

SPEAKER_02 12:06

Exactly.

SPEAKER_00 12:07

I mean, it's kind of the same thing like when we just do regular sessions. Like, really, it's like you're gonna sit here and repeat the same cycle over and over again until you learn.

SPEAKER_02 12:18

And that's one of the things I like about palms is it lets you know if you're breaking the cycle. So that's where quantum jumping comes in, or timeline jumping comes in, or that kind of stuff. There's lots of different ways you can phrase it, but that deals a lot with the line of fate, which usually parallels the lifeline. And you can actually see, usually at certain points in times, in between the lifeline and the line of destiny or the line of fate or the line of ancestry, there's an X. And so it's like that's the point in time where you're supposed to make your quantum just through your timeline shift. Because sometimes, like, we do have to have the family, we do have to have the kids. Like before I did this, I worked in surgery as a scrub and I learned all about microbiology and transparency and sterile fields. And because I have that background knowledge, I now understand perfectly how spiritual and energetic transference was.

SPEAKER_01 13:04

Right.

SPEAKER_02 13:04

It was like one of those feathers I needed in my cat to actually complete my quantum jump to fulfill my karma contract. Does that make sense?

SPEAKER_00 13:11

Yeah, yeah, definitely. Definitely. So now we're gonna kind of move on a little bit to. I know a lot of people are already very familiar or wanting to get familiar. Um, but another tool that Jeffrey uses is tarot and Oracle cards. Um he has some really, really cool tarot decks, like definitely different off the wall, some of them, I want to say.

SPEAKER_03 13:32

Thank you for recognizing that. I appreciate you very much on that.

SPEAKER_00 13:36

But I mean in a good way, you know, and and really though, what I'm also noticing is as more and more people are starting to like pick up tarot decks and things like that, it's almost kind of um like a mirror of themselves as well, in a way. So, coming to my first question, how can the tarot act a mirror for our current past and help us make more empowered, confident choices in our lives?

SPEAKER_02 14:05

Good question. Tarot is an excellent tool to step outside of ourselves and see what's happening around us.

SPEAKER_00 14:17

Exactly.

SPEAKER_02 14:18

And then I think this is where people get tricked out about the death card or the devil card. You know what? Life goes up and down and all around. There's good and bad things in it. Tarot is like if you've got if you've got a toxic relationship in your life or you're working in a toxic environment, the devil card's gonna pop out, you know, and that's it, that's a high level of toxicity. And the death card might come out with that too. So you need to end that relationship, or you need to like quit that job. Like death in tarot very rarely means actual death. Right. And the few times it actually has, it actually has warned the person that someone's gonna be leading and they kind of already knew.

SPEAKER_00 14:53

Yeah, they already knew it.

SPEAKER_02 14:54

Yeah, that's one of the things that some of the people kind of come and get freaked out about tarot. They're like, I don't want to know anything bad. I'm like, you probably already know it if it's there. It's like a lot of what tarot is for is validation and verification for things we're already thinking and feeling, but we're like, am I a crazy person? Or am I just thinking stuff up? Tarot's the one's like, no, you are not.

SPEAKER_00 15:15

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 15:16

Or yes, you are.

SPEAKER_00 15:18

Or get out of your own way. Exactly which is like 90% of what happens.

SPEAKER_02 15:22

Exactly. Overthinking it, move forward, focus on this, not this. And so again, like tarot is one of these awesome tools that allows you to step outside of yourself and and see what's happening around you from outside perspective. There's no such thing as a negative card in tarot. It's like you and I both know that the world isn't full of valleys of beauty orans and rainbows and fluffy bunnies, the poop glitter and kills and stuff.

SPEAKER_00 15:45

It'd be cool if they did, though. They're not real skills, guys.

SPEAKER_02 15:50

But we're in a kind of in that it's like, but in that it's like tarot is also another, like, it's not just for like doing like a whole spread. Like, I get a lot of uh clients that come in and they're like, they've got very specific questions. And like I use tarot to give them answers. Like I've worked with people and done just a basic tarot spread with and have them call me back up like two, three months later, like Jeffrey, I got three different job offers now because I quit my job, like tarot told me to do. I have no idea which one I'm supposed to take. I'll do a mini spread for each job offer. Right. And they're like, you've nailed the energy of each interview. I know exactly which one I'm taking. I've had people call me up, I'm like, I got three different places I want to move. And I like pulled out the energy. I'm like, this is not gonna be like the friendships that I think you'd want. Like, you know, what that's everybody told me that already moved, they've said.

SPEAKER_01 16:38

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 16:38

It's like you can really pick up on things. So it's a great tool for people that want to come in and like you don't have to come in with specific questions, but if you want to come in with specific questions, I'm very clairvoyant. I can very much like you give me a little, I can give you a la back. Yeah, especially with tarot, and you're like that too.

SPEAKER_00 16:56

Yeah, definitely. And also, too, like it drives me nuts. It drives me nuts when people come in and they go, I want you to tell me what the answers are. I mean, honestly, though, it it's like that's not what this is for. Very, very I really feel like a lot of people think tarot is going to be predicting the future and telling them what is set in stone exactly. And I don't think they're realizing that we are actually picking up and feeling the energy in that moment. Everything that you have going on in that monkey mind of yours is showing up in the cards.

SPEAKER_02 17:36

Here's the other thing really I can tap into people's spirit guides very easily. It's like it's like I can be like, oh, you're gonna get really big into ceramics next year, like making pottery and stuff like that. But like, that doesn't even sound like me. Like, no, I'm talking to your future self through time, and that's where you end up. But it's like you could want us to tell you what you're supposed to do, but you won't believe it unless you come to that conclusion on your own.

SPEAKER_00 17:58

Right, exactly.

SPEAKER_02 17:59

And so a lot of times spirit guides won't let certain things come through. Or they were like, I can't pick up on it because they need you to figure this out on your own. Right. And that's where sometimes people get upset a little bit.

SPEAKER_00 18:09

You have to go through the experience to really realize what it was or what it's going to be.

SPEAKER_02 18:15

Or what you actually want.

SPEAKER_00 18:17

Right, exactly, exactly. Because again, it's almost kind of like with tarot, it's not necessarily again predicting the future, it's kind of more aligning you with the better energetic potential.

SPEAKER_02 18:32

It's like it can pick up on where the dominoes are now, right, and how they may possibly fall.

SPEAKER_01 18:39

Right.

SPEAKER_02 18:39

But things can branch off into different directions very easily with Jared. And here's the thing like, I do want to say there has been a few very rare occasions where some messages have come through with something very specific.

SPEAKER_00 18:52

Yes, that has happened as well.

SPEAKER_02 18:53

It can happen, but it's is it is. I like the movie. Yeah, no, no, no, no, no, no. Like, I like I think I you know the story. I had a woman at the end of the reading, who was a couples reading there with her husband, and she was like, Do my spirit's have any messages for me? And I don't ever forget. I just screamed at her.

SPEAKER_01 19:10

I'm like, start baking! And she was like, I've never baked a day in my life.

SPEAKER_02 19:14

And I'm just like, that's just what I heard. Take it with a grain of salt. Come to find out, I'm reading for her mother-in-law and her niece a year later, and she has a pork side bakery, and she's making good money out of it now.

SPEAKER_01 19:25

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_02 19:26

Because she started off making sourdough bread.

SPEAKER_01 19:29

Right.

SPEAKER_02 19:30

And the family loved it, she just kept on baking, and she had completely forgotten I had screamed that there was actually her family that I reminded her. Didn't the second tell you to start baking? And so sometimes, like, things that's the other thing, like, especially with tarot too, it may not resonate right now. Right, it might not make sense in the moment, but but you're gonna have like like a whoa moment later on down the road. You like I I have faith in my skills and the other skills of the people that I work with, but that's what's happened. It's just some people are a little impatient, usually, if you are your spirit guides, are definitely gonna teach you that lesson.

SPEAKER_00 20:03

Yeah, yeah. If anything, guys, don't come in and be me. Okay. Like we're human too, damn it. Human, just saying. So now we're gonna kind of move on to crystals. Jeffrey does work quite a bit with crystals. He does have larger pieces that he does have on display on his table, like if you're sitting down with him in a session. He also uses them to do energy clearings just to have you hold during your session, because maybe you just need something from that crystal. And so we're gonna kind of kill the stigma of crystals are just rocks and don't actually do anything, because they do, especially with your energy, your intent as well. So, how do crystals specifically work their magic with you or with other people?

SPEAKER_02 20:51

Everything that we see is made of light, frequency, and vibration, including us including everything around us. Crystals and certain rocks, it takes certain frequency and vibration and light to make them grow in the forms and patterns and colors and ways that they do. Crystals and rocks work very, very, very similar to tuning books. It's like like Sedona's a huge, monstrous tuning book. That people come here and that's why you quit your job, that's why you end relationships. That's not good. That's why you move out. That's why.

SPEAKER_00 21:26

Or you have just more clarity in general.

SPEAKER_02 21:27

Exactly, for what you want for yourself, because just coming into Sedona, the rocks and the energy here, works as a tuning tool to align you to your best and highest self. Like I've got my power three crystals that I work with with everybody in every reading and every way. It starts off with Amethyst. Amethyst balances the physical, emotional, and spiritual bodies. It's also Rindex for our third eye chakra. It also helps us put clear and positive intentions out. It's also great to prevent against psychic or spiritual attack. On the simplest level, other people's negative and emotion and things like. Thoughts that we could all pick up on from time to time. When you're balancing that physical, emotional, and spiritual, you don't really notice the negative no you have the data downers around you as much. Right. Okay. And that's so just by keeping or like amethyst necklace, or keeping a piece of amethyst, or even like little beaded bracelets, maybe 12 or 18 ballot beaded bracelets, it's a tuning fork inside your aura. And so if you're out of balance in one of those areas, just by having a piece of amethyst in your pocket, on your wrist, around your neck, it will do what its frequency and vibration alone will help bring those things back into balance. So, and each, like each rock or crystal has its own unique frequency that it can help you realign to for your best and highest self. So another stone that I work with a lot, which is great stone for people that work in healthcare, is clear quartz or lumerian clear quartz. It's basically like dawn dish soaked or oily water, but low vibration and negative energy is for your aura. You come home from work, you hold your clear quartz, you don't think about the idiot that made you mad all day at work. Allows you to let that go. And then the one that completes the alchemist trisector for me is black tourmaline. I love all tourmaline, but black tourine is probably my favorite.

SPEAKER_01 23:18

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 23:18

Black tourmaline is basically a little negative, it's like a black hole for negative energy. It just sucks it up before it can even get into your aura. So that's a really good one to have like right by the doorway of your home, but pull up it if it's negative, so you can't bring it into the house. It also works exceptionally well with the root chakra. The root chakra is the lowest of the seven chakras. It's for those primary needs of safety, security, shelter, and query are. So, like, scientific fact, every tree you see out in nature for however high and how wide that tree is built up is exactly how far down, how wide its root system needs to be to support it. So when you have like 40 different irons in the fire, so to speak, you pull a lot of energy up all the way to the root chakra. Makes you feel like that top heavy tree of the struggle of life. Nervous, anxious, stressed, angry, uncertain of our choices and direct shit. That's a root chakra issue. That is a grounding issue. Black turmaline is the stone that pulls that energy back down to your root chakra, turns the 40 things on your plate into four, and says, MA start with this one.

SPEAKER_01 24:24

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 24:25

And so I refer to black tourmaline, clear quartz, and anethyst as the alchemist trifta, because they ground clear and balance energy. It's like the perfect foundation for me to start a psychic reading with, or just how to be every single day.

SPEAKER_00 24:39

Yeah, I totally get that. So that's going into my next question here. How can we, or people in general, our listeners, how can we all intuitively choose the right crystal for what we need in that moment or what we're just needing for support?

SPEAKER_02 25:01

How fucking enough, it's actually very easy. If you're listening to intuition, you don't that's that's your solar plexus chakra. That's your gut, that's your instincts, that's your intuition. And kind of like how it works out is like you can almost never pick the wrong rock. Kind of thing that like how I do like crystal readings and in uh at the beginning of all my readings, it's basically like people are in awe about how I read them perfectly just by watching and have a few pick a few crystals. And so kind of in that it's it's about tapping into your solar flexor chakra. And it's like you don't even have to tap into it. Okay, in that it's like I walked by a rock or a crystal gore, oh my god, I love the way that twinkles in the light. And I'm like, wait, what?

SPEAKER_01 25:45

But I do.

SPEAKER_02 25:46

Your gut, your solar flexor chakra use color, texture, twinkle, whatever like you like to bring that like like I like to say like rocks and crystals are like glasses of lemonade you didn't know you're needed after working outside on a hot day.

SPEAKER_01 26:01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 26:01

It's like you go inside, all of a sudden you see the glass of lemonade, you're like, how thirsty wasn't. I saw that. When you start working with rocks or crystals, the cool thing about it is it's like you don't have to overthink it. Just by wearing like the little beaded bracelets can make a difference. I I I have probably about a dozen rocks in my pockets right now. Maybe not a dozen, but close to it. Some of them are bigger than others, and some of them are small, you know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_01 26:23

Um but I constantly put on point.

SPEAKER_02 26:28

But it's like, and I switch them out based on what's going on. I also put them out with a full moon to charge. I also have a big piece of smoky quartz that I put them on to clear their energy at. And so it's kind of like you kind of I constantly kind of change them out because it also changes my frequency as well, based on the rocks that I mean. It's it offers me better spiritual protection too. But the other thing you can do is you can do crystal grids with rock different rocks and crystals. You use like the cube of Metatron, which you're gonna see when we do the crystal casting here. It's like you put certain crystals on certain points and you can actually use them to generate power. You can use them to do a focus grid, you can use them as a protection grid, you can use them as a good rock grid, you can use them as a romance grid, you can use a peace of mind grid. There's so many different ways you can grid that you can do out there. And what's one of the things that I really like about working with crystal grids in that aspect is that it's not like performing witchcraft. It's not like performing spells. You're basically setting up an energetic pattern that draws energy from Mother Earth and the universe to promote like energy through that lens of what you're looking for. And so it's a really non-stary way for people to like get into working with energy without thinking that they might be calling in like you know, negative energies or entities and things like that.

SPEAKER_00 27:42

Right.

SPEAKER_02 27:43

It's just kind of it's very, it's very different from that. Although there's lots of different kinds of witchcraft and alchemy, I'm an alchemist myself, like there is certain things that crystals can enhance those ceremonies and those rituals.

SPEAKER_00 27:57

Right. And and it is scientifically proven too that like quartz, for instance, so clear quartz actually has a vibration to it. And a lot of the crystals um in general that also come from, you know, the earth have a vibration already within them. And then when you're working with them, that's when you are setting that intention, you're putting more of that energy into the crystal and it'll amplify everything that you're doing to work with it as well. So we're gonna get into a sample of how Jeffrey, one of the ways Jeffree uses crystals and stones as far as like readings. So he's gonna do a stone casting for me. And do you want me to ask a question, or are we just gonna kind of keep it open?

SPEAKER_02 28:40

You can just keep it open for right now, because that's what I'm when I do this with a lot of quiets is they mostly don't have questions. It's just how I'm picking up my energy. And like I do one thing, like I do want to say it's kind of shocking to me. Surprising enough, to for certain people, there is just as many taboos about working with crystals as there are with tarot.

SPEAKER_00 28:58

Yes, yes.

SPEAKER_02 28:59

And it's just like, yeah, yes, can a dark practitioner put something in a crystal to like do something? Yes. Does that happen very often? No. Does it happen when you're going into crystal stores? Like next to freaking absolutely freaking never. And usually as soon as you pick up something like that, it feels off. If it feels off, solar plexus chakra, it is put it down, made it a rock.

SPEAKER_00 29:21

Yep.

SPEAKER_02 29:21

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 29:22

All right.

SPEAKER_02 29:23

So and if you got more questions about that, feel free to uh let us know in the comments if you have any questions about taboos with Christmas. Yeah, we'd more than happy to like take those on for you.

SPEAKER_00 29:32

I think we're at I'm I'm wanting to to get an episode together of taboos uh and things like that as far as with spirituality.

SPEAKER_02 29:40

I'd love to be on the episode. All right, what I need you to do over here, my dear Emma.

SPEAKER_00 29:44

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 29:45

This is the bag. You can't look in it.

SPEAKER_00 29:47

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 29:48

You can shake it around, you can move things around, you can do all this. I need you to pull out 13 crystals, start in the center, and just make a spiral going out, and I will help you keep track.

SPEAKER_00 29:58

Okay, that one just got stuck to me. So please get some tiger eyes. Tiger's eyes are good stones for videos, y'all. I'm glad I know how to make a spiral. You're doing pretty good. Where am I at?

SPEAKER_02 30:10

You're correct.

SPEAKER_00 30:11

Wow, okay.

SPEAKER_02 30:12

Sounds perfect. Okay. All right. So starting off here, this is like almost like Shiva Langhan. And so with this, this is a lot about like you're opening up a lot right now for yourself. And kind of like with all the changes that are coming at the psychic center, it's just kind of like you're allowing things to flow easily. And kind of with that, that's kind of what this is representing for you right now. It's like you're opening yourself up, you're capturing up your spirit guides, you're allowing things to bloom and blossom naturally. But it's also with the blue lace agate here, like you're definitely using your troop chakra, but kind of like you're you have that calm and balance in it between your physical world and your spiritual world as well, and you're getting that talents. But you you also know because of the work that we do here, people are always doing like spells and casts, curses, and hexes and jinxes for what we do here. So I think it's like the tiger's eye. It's like I like that you have some protection right at the front of the spread.

SPEAKER_01 31:04

Right.

SPEAKER_02 31:04

Because it's like you you know you need to do your protections, you know you need to do your clowning, you know you need to do your clearing exercises, okay? And that makes it a lot easier for your spirit guys to keep an eye on you. But I think you're you've been working very hard with the Sumatra and Amber here. Because this is like a detoxifier.

SPEAKER_01 31:22

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 31:22

You can also bring in love, but Sumatra and Amber is a really big detoxifier. That's like like you know, you're getting ready to take some time off here at the end of the month. That's like that that makes sense. Yeah. Represents that. Because you're kind of starting to very much compartmentalize things for yourself between work and home and family and husband and daughter and things like that. Because you're getting burnt out and you gotta keep things in your specific place, and that's why this chevron amethyst is here, because you're trying to keep balance with all those things right now.

SPEAKER_01 31:51

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 31:51

Okay, and that's like you are attracting good things to you. This is certain to me. I really like snake references and spirituality because snake shed the old skin and stepping into the new. And like we have talked about like last year at the center was a lot of intention, like we need to do this, we should do that. This is the year where we're creating a lot.

SPEAKER_00 32:10

It was also a big year of shedding last year, too. Exactly. We were in the year of the snake, and in Chinese Zodiac, I am a snake. So it all aligned up, and now I'm waiting to reap the rewards of all the hard work I've done. I think it's gonna be, I think it's at the end of June, is when you know the plants are lining up, and um, Leo's and Aquariuses finally have their their breakthrough.

SPEAKER_02 32:37

I'm in the Aquarius mission, so like dun dun dun, powers your neck. Um but like also last year is the closing out of a nine-year cycle. Right. And when you close out a nine-year cycle, the last year always sucks. Because all the stuff you didn't deal with, well, freaking sake here's your spirit guide, like here you go. Yeah. But anyway, so serpentine, how like described serpentine, it basically turns turns your aura into a super high vibrational merry-gorang. A little low vibrational assholes can't find the right timing to buy a ticket and get on the ride.

SPEAKER_01 33:09

Right.

SPEAKER_02 33:09

It creates divine timing, right place, right person. Because you're you're in the process of like doing some healing for yourself right now. So this one here is healerite. This is the stone that heals the healers. Like, this is a great stone for anybody that works in healthcare, doctors, nurses, like surge, med techs, all that kind of stuff. Surge techs have even people that do bake, massage, things like that. Because what this is the kind of thing it's important for us to protect ourselves and the kind of work that they do. Because what we do is we shed a lot of toxicity off of people. And sometimes if we don't have any psychic or empathic shielding up, that energy can end up in our aura, which is why if you look in healthcare, some of these places, it's like why you can't get people out of your head for days, weeks, even months, because their energy is still in your aura because you haven't cleared it. What healer does, when you're working with your clients or your patients, actually puts all their energy in an auric bubble. So you can work on them, heal them, but that energy doesn't end up in your aura, it pops up in a drive down the freeway where it can't cause any harm. So, but I think this also having to do is like you're expanding your healing abilities, like you're like we're evolving based on the changes that we've made. And that's why the lapsus lose is here. So this is blue, so that's definitely working with the slope chakra. But this is a very powerful stone for people to work with that have psychic and empathic abilities, or if you're trying to like enhance the one that you think you might have. Because you're the psychics that are definitely believe that everybody's got psychic and empathic abilities to a certain extent.

SPEAKER_01 34:35

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 34:36

Kind of like anybody can start off at a jojo with a white belt and then become your black belt. You can do that. This is a great stud about stone about developing spiritual skills. Okay. And so it's like you're definitely tapping into that as well. And that we've got a little piece of obsidian here, which is saying, you know, just make reminding you to keep grounded and that energy to stay clear, along with some more actually.

SPEAKER_00 34:59

Is that too chevron here with us there?

SPEAKER_02 35:02

No, this one is the pedalite, actually.

SPEAKER_00 35:04

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 35:05

So the penalite is the perfect stone for overthinkers and over-warriors. Have you ever heard of a mood stabilizing drug called lithium?

SPEAKER_01 35:13

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 35:13

There's the actual mineral lithium in the penalite. Like the combat veterans that I work out with out here. Always go for the lapedolite. It's also like the single moms with three kids.

SPEAKER_01 35:24

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 35:25

It's like they always go for the lapetalite because the gears are just constantly turning. So there's kind of like a little reminder here to ground your energy to kind of calm your energy, keep the gears from turning. Because your spirit guides are trying to talk you. This one here is in the Dog Dabo, and most often referred to as Merlinite, like the wizard Merlin. This is a stone that helps us unlock our unconscious. It helps unlock psychic and path of abilities. So there's definitely a thief coming here to be in. And that it's also a stone that helps us connect with past lives. Because that's one of the things I really like about doing past life recall is like people see how badass they were in a previous life. Yeah. How capable they are, and what skills they can like. So like muscle memory, you're you're familiar with.

SPEAKER_01 36:06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 36:06

There is spiritual energetic memory where you can actually unlock a skill like you did in a like in a past life. Like I had this, I was talking with this one woman, and I'm like, I see you as a Mongolian like cavalry archer.

SPEAKER_01 36:19

Right.

SPEAKER_02 36:19

And she's like, I ride horse. I've always wanted to shoot archery, but I've never done it. And she started doing cavalry archery off of horseback, and in six months she was competing against people who have been doing it for decades and beating them. Because she knew how to hold her knees, however, she wanted to place her fingers on the on the boat. And she basically was unlocking it by doing a convenient and going archery on past lot. Muscle memory, baby. Spiritual muscle memories, that's what I call it. And so this one here is fuse. So green, spiritual tip or hack. Another thing that makes things very easy about working with crystals, especially if you know about chakras. You can literally just pick a stone or a crystal that is the same color as a chakra, and it automatically will help you tap into that chakras page.

SPEAKER_00 36:59

Yeah, keep it simple, y'all.

SPEAKER_02 37:00

Spirituality is not as complicated. People want to make it out to be like we are the ones that complicate the bejesus out of it. But this is about you opening your heart space. This is about you kind of like allowing good things to come in and having that positive attitude, which you definitely do have. But sometimes we got a lot going on, it can be hard to do that. So this is a stone that just reminds us that our higher forces are out there for us. You can ask for help, you can ask for guidance, but just to keep our heart space open so we can get work with the vulnerable emotions in the heart chakra, which are trust, faith, hope, those lines. So the last one we have here, I really like for you, which is convoluted jasper. So Red works with the root chakra. There's convoluted jasper here. It's got the little lines into it. I know we talked about crum propets, words. Com compartmentalizing certain things with the shagan and fist here. Convoluted jasper helps you do it in a very healthy way. It helps you leave the family at the family door, leave the center at the center door, so you can then like you can move on and leave things behind and move into different phases of your life without carrying everything on you. Right. So short and a long stick here, you are very open to your sphere of your disempowers because you're speaking and treat, protecting energy, properly detoxifying yourself. So you gotta cut things compartmentalize a little bit right now. But it's working for you because you're attracting the things in the divine time that you need. So just make sure you're healing your energy and opening up the desk. You will be reminder, stay grounded and don't overthink stuck because you are magical. Your heart spaces open and everything's gonna look out fine to put it in the right place.

SPEAKER_00 38:33

Well, I like that. No, that was actually pretty spot on, though. Um and especially the one with the heart opening aspect. It's pretty funny. I was doing something with my mom last week, and we were working with certain angels. Okay. And I called in a specific angel to work with me, and it has to do with the heart. So then that's pretty crazy how that's coming up a week later after me and my mom were doing stuff with angels, and it's showing up. So see, guys, it shows up when it's gonna show up.

SPEAKER_02 39:04

She was said you you can never pick the wrong rock. Right. It's like I do this with people who are like, it all fits. I'm not it always does. It's like unless somebody's in denial about themselves and what's going on with themselves, like then I can't help you anyway.

SPEAKER_00 39:20

Right, right. Well, Jeffrey, before we sign off here on this episode, um, is there any message you wish everyone knew about any of the tools and divination that you use, or just in general, is there anything that you want to leave the people with today?

SPEAKER_02 39:38

I really do like working with past life recall with people. It's amazing how things come through and how like when you're working with past life recall, it's almost shocking how if you work with someone in a past life and like you've worked well together, how your spirit guides will line them up again. Like I was doing a past life recall for this gentleman and his friend, a female friend, who they weren't married, like she was married, he's like, We need to go out and do spiritual stuff, as we're not into it. But I was just like, I was picking up on him being a partner for a library in Alexandria. The library in Alexandria was created by Alexander the Great. He did because he would ship all the written language of knowledge that he was the places you could capture into a library in Alexandria. And so basically, he was one of the cartmen that followed Alexander the Great from Egypt all the way to India, is what I was telling him. And I'm like, that's where you two met the first time. And like, and you went back from India all the way to Egypt, and she was like, Why would I do that? And I was just like, Well, you he told you that they would teach you how to read and write, you could get on the cart fast enough, and both their mouths just dropped.

SPEAKER_01 40:37

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 40:38

And I was like, what? He's like, she's like, Do you understand? That's exactly what he told me when he was in the Peace Court in India to get me on the plane to come to the United States back in the 70s.

SPEAKER_01 40:48

Interesting.

SPEAKER_02 40:49

And it's I have had more than one of those pop up where people like were like figured out why they like certain things. It's like sometimes when I'll pick you like an herbal or a healer or things like that, it's shocking how you like work as a nurse or a doctor in this lifetime. Or like if you're like if you work as a stonemason, you build like bridges and castle walls and stuff, how you're an architect in this lifetime. And so sometimes when people are looking for direction, that's a good way for people to kind of see what you're capable of in a past life to hopefully unlock and do things in this lifetime. But as far as like a straight up message for just people out there, don't overthink it. Focus on the light, focus on the things that are gonna make you happy. It's very shocking to see how many people that come into our rooms on a regular basis and you ask them what would make them happy for themselves first, they're absolutely clueless. Yeah, and how much one it's kind of like that that feels about a manifestation and a lot of attraction, which is what I teach a lot of people about. But I have a feeling when I start seeing more people who are on their pack, they're kind of looking for more specific things coming in. I'm really looking for also working with those people. Trust yourself, trust your instincts. We as human beings are a lot more capable of healing and taking care of ourselves than modern society has given us credit for in a lot of different ways.

SPEAKER_01 42:09

Definitely.

SPEAKER_02 42:10

And so if you want to learn more about that, definitely come in and talk to someone at the sec and see if we can get you on your open and get you on your spiritual journey, figure out what your actual destiny is and post for being here. Because everybody's got one. Hopefully, we can get you in a one done so you don't have to redo any repeats.

SPEAKER_00 42:26

Right. So pay attention the first, I guess, okay? Yeah. Well, thank you so much, Jeffrey, for uh for coming on here and getting into all the nitty-gritty of that. Um, again, guys, you can always book with Jeffrey uh at Crystal Magic Psychic Center, either on the website, give us a call. He's there. You're there five days a week, pretty much, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 42:44

Pretty much.

SPEAKER_00 42:45

Yeah, five days a week, y'all. Um, and also, you know, we all do Zoom, phone, Google Meet, all of that stuff. So we have multiple ways of getting in touch with with everybody.

SPEAKER_03 42:57

Thanks for having me on the show again, my dear. Looking forward to coming back again soon. And uh juice juice peace, keep further than the beasts. Y'all have a great rest of your day, and uh hopefully we'll be here for a bunch of you soon.

SPEAKER_00 43:09

All right, guys, stay curious, stay magical, and stay you.

SPEAKER_02 43:13

Namaste.

SPEAKER_00 43:13

Hey everyone, MA here again. I'm I'm just kind of coming on to do a little recap, also just kind of give my perspective of things as well, as somebody who is constantly around this type of environment, the people, the tools, all of that. So, my takeaway here with with sitting with Jeffrey is is very interesting, especially with palmistry, how your lines can change with your decisions, changing your destiny, changing things you thought you could never change. You guys have all the power in the world to do that. It's free will. Nobody can tell you what to do unless it's you, really. I mean, obviously, you know, as a kid, you gotta listen to your parents, you know. You know, listen to your boss and things like that. But for the most part, when it comes to actually making decisions for yourself, you really need to believe you are always making the right decision. I tell my clients all the time, you're never making a wrong decision. Are you making a decision that might be a little bit harder and have more lessons along the way? Probably. But there's never really truly a wrong decision for you. Like really. I mean, unless, you know, you're gonna be stupid and make stupid decisions, but hey, yeah, we're all human, right? Um, and then a lot of like the tarot, too. I I work a lot with tarot myself. And and again, like how Jeffrey was explaining, there's really no bad card in tarot. Tarot will call you out on your bullshit. Um, it'll let you know when things really aren't meant to be, or maybe to show you that you need to start looking at it from a different perspective as well. I love it when tarot calls my clients out because it's just like, I told you, I told you. And I and a lot of the times a lot of people already know. They already know. Um, and it's starting to get to a point, too, within a lot of the tarot sessions that not just myself or Jeffrey, but other readers here at the center too are starting to realize people don't know the difference between their intuition and their ego. So I'm gonna say this for everybody in the back. Okay. Your ego is loud. Ego is fear, it's anxiety, it's every feeling in your body at one time. It's very overwhelming. And when it comes to your intuition, this is more quiet. This is more, I'm really feeling the pull to do this. I'm scared, but I know, I just know within me that I'm able to do this and move forward or have or make the right decision. So keep that in mind, guys, when it comes to your intuition. Intuition is quiet, it's soft, it's like you just know it's so hard to explain unless you experience yourself, which is what a lot of the spirituality stuff is, is like you have to have your own experiences to really truly understand what it is that you're getting from it or learning from it too. A lot of us are old souls here, so we're remembering, we're remembering why we're here, what we've done before and how to do it again. So, which is also really cool getting into the crystal aspect of all of this with Jeffree too, is again, crystals have been around since the planet has existed. So crystals are older than us. And are there manufactured crystals and more polished-up crystals and things like that? Yes, there is, but for the majority of like the raw crystals and some of the tumbled stones and things like that, there's still energy and vibration within it. Picking up that crystal that you're being drawn to, you're being drawn to that crystal for reasons. Trust that. And again, crystals can also be a wonderful tool to help bring out energies that maybe you just needed help bringing out in the first place that were already there, you know. So we're all learning, we're all growing, nobody knows everything, and the ones who claim they do are all in their ego, which is also, you know, another thing that we'll we'll be getting into down the road with more episodes as well. But thank you guys so much for listening, tuning in, watching. We do have fan mail available through BuzzSprout. You guys can leave comments on Spotify, on YouTube. If you guys are wanting something like a specific topic that you want us to cover, please let me know. Um, you know, I want to start involving everybody because really this is this is a platform for voices to be heard, to learn, to show you that again, spirituality is not complicated, nor it should be. And also that don't overthink everything. I know we're human and I know our brains are wired to constantly kind of be in that, you know, I gotta take care of myself mode. But also at the same time, we all have to just start learning to trust ourselves now, especially within all of the chaos in the world with everything that's going on. You have to trust yourself first before you can trust anybody else. And that in itself is going to show you how strong you and your intuition is. So, guys, until next time, again, stay curious, stay magical, stay you. I'm signing up.