Money Talk — What It Really Takes to Run a Market

Everyone sees the packed markets and success, but nobody talks about the bills, stress, and drama behind the scenes. In this episode, we expose the real expenses of owning a market, what we actually invest to make events happen, and the unnecessary drama that comes with being visible and growing. This is the raw, unfiltered reality of being a business owners—no sugarcoating.

Transcript

SPEAKER_01 0:40

Hi guys, welcome back to 702 Cheesemet. I'm Sabrina and Samantha. Today we're going to be talking about the real cost of running a market, not just money, but also responsibility. So we did miss a week. We missed a week. And yeah. But we also have like a good explanation of why we missed it. Not just being lazy, but we were sick. Like sinus infectious. I don't know what happened. Just brought us down. I got it really bad. And I didn't want to record because I was like, I didn't sound good. And then also it was just like post-event. So we were exhausted. Yeah, we didn't want to be coughing all over the mic. Yes. But yeah, this uh last week was uh kind of rough because we were getting better, getting over. And then we were also busy with like a lot of meetings and getting like Well, let's say what happened. Yeah, you guys heard the biggest. I know, so most of you guys, the stuff that we've been wanting to talk to you guys about, we finally announced it, so now we can like openly talk about it with you guys.

SPEAKER_02 1:56

Yeah, so it's out there. So like the big news was we're closing the street for the first time ever for 702 Market.

SPEAKER_01 2:03

And it's Ferguson's first time ever, too. So that's exciting. So it's both of ours really big for us. But that was like a huge thing that we've been basically dealing with behind the scenes. For a month, stress maybe or more. Yeah. A little bit over the month, but that's one thing that we've been dealing with while we've been sick, sick, and then also just getting all the markets ready. Yes. Because we actually do have another market this weekend, so we had a week basically to catch up and relax. Catch up, relax while also doing work. Yes. So it's been nonstop, but this week, going into this week, it has been stressful. It's been like very overwhelming and nerve wracking. It has been. I think because there's so much pressure with this closure. I mean, there's so much more that goes into it. Barricades and a lot more. It's like more serious. Yeah. Like we're getting serious. Yeah, it's like next level now. So we've been stressed about that. And then we've upgraded. Now we're we jumped in the next level, basically. Yeah, we're next level. But from there, we also um yeah, with like a lot of meetings, honestly, like city, everything. A lot of planning, coordinating. The map is like stressful. It's like maybe it's just us like overthinking everything, but also it's like we want everything to be perfect for you guys. Yeah. For our first time, but also most of it's your guys' first time too.

SPEAKER_02 3:34

Yeah, first time also. But that's been our week.

SPEAKER_01 3:37

It's just been like hella stressful. But we're grateful. We're grateful, yeah. We're grateful. And uh, we're releasing this. It should you guys should be hearing this Friday Friday, the day before the event. So you'll see us on the news.

SPEAKER_00 3:51

I didn't know if we could talk about that.

SPEAKER_01 3:53

Yeah, because we're releasing it like after. So we're telling you, we're upgrading. It's been like one thing after another. We've been stressed, we've been slammed with work, and now we're gonna be on the news, so that's another big plus and exciting thing, nerve-wracking thing that's gonna happen to us. So you'll see us on the news with Johnny Cash, the cow, basically. But yeah, that's been basically our week, our two weeks for you guys. Okay, so now that we've caught up, let's get into today's topic because this is something that nobody really talks about. You don't really see it. I mean, all you see from our side is the cute booths and the vibe that we bring. But what you don't really see is the cost that goes behind it and what it's actually like running a market. But not just costs, the responsibility that weighs like bigger than the cost, I feel like. So on the first episode, we kind of talked about it, like what we got into, like what we were not expecting kind of thing, and like to get more into that. So the costs that we already knew were coming, we didn't know costs. And we're not gonna bring out the budget planner and tell you like the breakdown if you guys are expecting that. We're not going into the math of it. Honestly, I'm not good at math, so I feel like I would confuse everyone listening and some math of it. We don't do no, we're not doing no PL on this episode. We're not doing that. So if you're listening and you're wanting the like, oh my god, that cost five thousand dollars. Like if you want that, maybe don't listen to this podcast. Yeah, because we're not gonna go into the the costs and pricing. But we will talk about how how much it really affects us. Hopefully you feel the cost within us. You'll feel the responsibility is much more than the cost is. That is true. That makes sense, yes. That's pretty good. That should be a quote. Yes, but yeah, if that makes sense. But yeah, like um on the first episode, we were saying like how pretty much like everything it runs to uh runs a market what it costs. But going into it, we didn't really have like cost expectations in mind. We thought it's common sense we have to pay a parking lot. Yeah, in our head, we're like la la la la la. Like we don't care about it.

SPEAKER_00 6:25

It is we thought it was gonna be like cheap, honestly, like easy money, but damn, for a freaking parking lot, it's expensive as hell.

SPEAKER_01 6:34

And it's weird because guys, it's a parking lot. Like there's no like walls, there's no it's not a house with heaters and like flooring, it's a parking lot. Yeah, we've been a parking lot for no bathroom. So it's like when you start doing the math, you're like, you're really charging that much for a parking lot, but then that's just how it is in Vegas, too. So yeah, everything's very costly. Yeah, it does. And when we've driven driven, we've driven around the city, trying to figure out like what spots are good, reaching out to people. We've actually gotten a question of someone asking how we find spots, and guys, it's luck. Yeah, it's pure luck. You have to go and get your hands dirty, do your own research and find the location because that's what we did. We didn't really ask for help, we just went out there and we looked ourselves.

SPEAKER_02 7:27

Yeah, so that's like one thing we didn't expect to be such high of a cost.

SPEAKER_01 7:33

But it's not even that, it's also um, like we said in the first episode, we thought it was just basically go get a parking lot, find vendors, that's it. Yeah. But no, not exactly. Like there's permits, there's insurance, there's a rental, there's marketing, but basic supplies you don't even think about you need in a freaking market. Yeah, I think the more the the things that really take expenses from us are the most expensive, would be the permits. The permits, the insurance, those are the things that are costly, the rent that we pay. Once you start doing that, it does add up, and then you still want to do little investments, which we'll get into later. That's the hidden expenses. So everything just kind of starts piling up, and then at the end of the day, you'll look at your bank account and be like, damn, this was just for one event. Like, honestly, this like going like now thinking or seeing it two years later, this isn't hobby money. No, this isn't like a little side business. This is like our freaking career at this point. Like, like this is we've put in so much investment and time and effort that it is a job. Yeah. And I mean, we'll get into like why we caught why we charge this much amount and like the permits that we do have to charge. These were not expected. They're like maybe to like somebody, it's could be small and it's like, oh, it's not a big issue. But no, these were like But these are just like the beginning. When you first start a market, of course, you have the venue, the location, and then you have to pay your city, your permits, your insurance, your rent. Um, and if it's if it's nighttime, then you need port-a potties or depending on whatever location you're at. But you start getting into it and a couple like a year later, that's when we started getting the staff. Yeah. And that's when we started like I guess when you start growing more, it starts getting more expensive.

unknown 9:32

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 9:32

If that makes sense. Yeah. Um no, I I think in the very beginning it was expensive too. Because there was like a lot of stuff we didn't know that we were forced to pay. Yeah, but like leveling up, leveling up and it starts getting expensive. Yeah, you have to. And it starts adding on because you're like, I want to do this and do this, and it just starts adding on. I mean, taxes, you start have to do that. We do taxes. Oh my god, that's another subject. We do taxes. And that's not something that I mean we f I don't even know if we can say it. Can we talk about taxes? No, like into debt. Like But yeah, we do taxes. We're not gonna Yeah, I'll just say that. We'll do we do taxes. That's stressful. We have to have a person that we have an accounting guy. We have a damn accountant. So it's like it's everything like that, you have to pay everyone. I mean, it starts adding on. If you have a videographer, photographer, DJ, damn. If you have a drone person, it's like everyone costs money, and of course you're paying for their time, their effort. So you have to pay them. Sometimes they overcharge. Yeah. I mean, I think we can say that they overcharge for their and maybe they don't even have experience, you know.

SPEAKER_02 10:44

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 10:45

But yeah, it's like a lot of stuff that we did not expect of pricing. It's just it could be like the littlest details, also, honestly. The littlest things that you don't think are expensive, which it adds up. It starts adding up. Yes, it does.

SPEAKER_02 11:02

It does, especially our marketing. We like you guys seen it.

SPEAKER_01 11:06

We put like a shitload of marketing and we put a shitload of money into it. Yes. And most of you don't know you have to pay for ads. Yeah. I mean, for us, our demographic is mostly younger, and we hit the social media the hardest because that's where everyone sees it and that's where we've seen the growth ourselves. So we just feel like if we would go and do like uh a newsletter, not newsletter, if we would what are those people that that type? What people that do the news?

SPEAKER_00 11:42

A newslet what newsroom?

SPEAKER_01 11:44

A news reporter? Yeah, like the news reporter, like newspaper.

SPEAKER_00 11:48

Oh my god, the newspaper. Did you say those little people or those people? Oh, I was gonna say it's not Santa's word.

SPEAKER_01 11:57

You know that new like we know we wouldn't go to a newspaper because we just feel like it wouldn't hit the demographic that we want, and like we it wouldn't hit the range of people stuff.

SPEAKER_00 12:09

We we're we're picky on we're picky on what we do. Yeah, I thought you said little people.

SPEAKER_01 12:16

I said the people that type, but I couldn't just ah, I couldn't think about it.

SPEAKER_00 12:20

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 12:21

Anyways, anyways, but yeah, for our marketing, that's uh whole thankfully we've heard a lot of compliments about our marketing from vendors that oh my god, we've seen you across our page. Like you guys are like so amazing at marketing, like that's the goal. You guys are paying us. We're hosting the event, so we are gonna put all our efforts hard. I mean, we hit all of the very at the very beginning. I think we were like at the very beginning. Yeah, but at the we try to find everything, guys. We post on little apps at Lemon, I think it was called. Like we'll just repost everywhere so that everyone can see it. But it's funny because at the very beginning, like the first year, I think we were paying like only like a dollar as well. Yeah, we were like we do not have enough money right now. Well, but also we didn't know if it was gonna actually work. Yeah. And we've seen how it works in the aftermath of it. Yeah. We do get followers, so we see that it's actually what we're paying is actually worth it. Yeah. So those but those are like the ex like the expected costs, basically. If when you run a market, that's the expected cost. Those are the main costs, and honestly, those are the costs that any market organizer should be handling and should be doing.

SPEAKER_02 13:35

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 13:36

So if you see them that they're marketing, they're putting money into it, these are just expected normal costs that everyone should be doing.

SPEAKER_02 13:43

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 13:43

When it comes to organizing and coordinating the market. Yeah. You'll see it easily. Like Sabrina said, the marketing. You'll see the insurance, the permits, like it kind of you will see insurance, but sometimes they'll ask for like your own COI or for you to have a business license, which we don't trust. Honestly, what's a COI though?

SPEAKER_02 14:07

The insurance.

SPEAKER_01 14:08

Oh, okay. Yeah, it's okay. Samantha deals with that, so I'm like just listening.

SPEAKER_00 14:12

I I handle everything permit-wise, so all these little words. Like she's making up words at this point to sound professional. I know. I am, guys. I'm just pulling out words. Have you guys heard of C A I? Just kidding. C I A. It's like, wait a minute. Like, wait, what? FBI?

SPEAKER_01 14:44

Okay, since we already got into like the main expenses, the expenses that everyone is pretty aware of when you join a market, I wanna we want to go into the hidden expenses that you guys don't really see or hear about. Things that you don't really think about, honestly. Things that we didn't didn't think about at all. We didn't. But before we start, we wanna circle back into the beginning. We're gonna bring you back in time. And we're gonna talk about the first episode. When we told you how we started, we talked about how it was someone that helped us, and they did help us, they helped us find a location which we're very thankful for. Cause that really we stepped into it, that's how we started, you know, we got the feel of it. But they weren't around for that long, they kinda dipped on us. So after two months, when they dipped on us, and Samantha, should we play the violin right now? Yeah, play the violin. So we know what happened like a license sound. But since we're getting sentimental and deep, I guess. Deep with you guys. Well, it was traumatic for us when we when they left us. But it was a question that we kept asking ourselves like, should we continue this? Is this worth it? The stress. I mean, we didn't know nothing about what to do. We already had like the feeling of how it was to host the first market, but to continue a market and to coordinate organize markets for the future, we were like overwhelmed. Like, how are we gonna do this? Can we continue this? This is a lot of weight on our shoulders, and we only had 100 following. So it's like we had no trust with finding people, we had no trust with vendors. It was like so many things going in our heads.

SPEAKER_02 16:34

That's how you know Sabrina's getting sentimental because she's out of breath.

SPEAKER_01 16:38

I'm getting like really into it right now, like trying to express my whole feeling to you, my whole heart to you guys. But but going no, but honestly, yeah, going into that and coming now two years later, like I always say two years later, but it's always that comparison. And two years later, we now look back at that and we're like, why were we so worried? Like at the end of the day, we figured out everything ourselves. That person wasn't really helpful. No, like even now that we look back and we can say now, like, damn, you really handled C permitts. Like, I saw that figure is everything. They didn't know anything about it. So it's kind of like we were both learning things together at the same time, and we didn't have that really guide, that mentor that we really needed. Yeah. So we're gonna be able to do that. Honestly, we can probably guide someone now. Because we know the experience. We would have been a better guide.

SPEAKER_02 17:35

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 17:36

A better mentor than they were at the moment.

SPEAKER_02 17:39

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 17:39

And when they dipped us, it did affect us. It was hard for us, but I think that's what built character. It built character, but it also built our market. Yes. Because from there I felt like we weren't held back. We were nonstop now. We made our own decisions and we weren't told on how to run our market. We weren't told, oh well, you need to show this, you need to show that, you need to do this, you need to do that. They were telling us to show our basically our expenses and what we were spending, and we're not supposed to show that to ho host. Yeah, property. Property hosts. All we're doing for the property is paying the rent, and that's it. Yeah, that was like one thing that we like were like unsure, and we were like, we can look back and we were like, damn, like, why did we do that? We should have put our foot down. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 18:26

But we didn't know the business world, everything was the business world, the business world.

SPEAKER_01 18:30

And everything was we need to build trust. We're new, we're new. So we need to build the trust, we need to build the foundation for them to trust you. So we were kind of just going into it like, okay, we have to, we have to do it. Yeah, like we have to do everything that person says. But looking back now, we're like, no, we didn't have to do that. We we could have had our boundaries, but that boundary line was like really thin boundary. Yeah, there was like a lot of things that crossed the line that we look at today and we're like, damn, like why did we allow it? Why do we like why did we Yeah, we saw a lot of that and like my sister was saying to get more like to get into this and to talk about this again because it does come with the costs and the responsibility of owning a business. But we also want to let you guys know that we started from scratch. We can say that like very proudly. We started from scratch, we learned everything by ourselves. We are proudly to say we can proudly say now that Samantha has a relationship with the city. Like she has built it with them, this communication that she has with them, and we can just proudly say that we built everything from scratch. Not even city, health department too. Yes, like all like the big legal things that are like, oh my god, that sounds scary. Like, no, we're actually like really good terms. Like I have contacts that I talk to. And it's pretty cool because when we think back from the first time we were it was pretty scary, like, oh shoot, city emailed you. Yeah, or health departments calling you, oh shoot, what did we do? Did we do something wrong? When it's nothing bad. It's not like they know us on a first to first basis. We have nicknames, no kidding.

SPEAKER_00 20:07

That'd be cool. That would be cool.

SPEAKER_01 20:08

But no, like they know, like, okay, hey Samantha, like they know already, and that's like a proud thing to say is like we've built it to this point. We built the trust with them, and we know like when it comes to the first market, nobody's really gonna trust you, people aren't gonna trust you, attendees, vendors, but we built it. We have relationships with vendors, we have trust, we have all that loyalty with vendors, food trucks, attendees too. So it's like it's pretty cool. But it goes into the whole base of this concept is being legit. Yes, like by being legit, that's how everything like that that's the costs, that's the responsibilities. At the end of the day, it's just being legit. And that's what we are. Doing everything right, doing it the right way. Yes. I mean, that's the only way you should be doing it. Yeah. It's the only way that you can actually grow. And I think markets that maybe started off not doing it the right way, but then they learned oh, we have to do it the right way, and this is how you do it, they've probably seen that you grow and you have a better chance of growing by doing it that way.

SPEAKER_02 21:14

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 21:15

But then so this is the part like Sabrina is saying, this is circled back in. We went way out of it. So this is the part that we didn't really nobody warned us about on the expense part, the hidden costs. And a lot of people are like it's like it's called hidden for for a reason. We did not know it. Like we didn't think about it. And one of those would probably be like signage, for example.

unknown 21:41

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 21:42

You guys seen we have like a lot of signage. And we're adding more signage. Like every event, you guys see that we have something new.

SPEAKER_00 21:51

And we I mean, we don't steal it, we make it. So these are like So these are like bees that come. Come into the picture that we never thought about printing.

SPEAKER_01 22:03

Yes. The s uh signage, the decor, especially the freaking decor in our event started. But even the flyers, like we print out specific coupons and flyers at home too. Yeah. So that's another expense, the ink, the printer. We had to get a new printer. We had to get laptops because me and Samantha were sharing one laptop in the beginning. And we would have to wait around like an hour. Okay, Samantha's doing it, doing something on it, so I have to wait. And it just kept it, just needs it got to a point that we needed to get two laptops. Yeah. For each of us. And now we have it. And it's I like it. It's easy access. I take it everywhere with me. Yeah, Samantha wants to get a purse bag or whatever it's called.

SPEAKER_00 22:45

But whatever. You're just a hater.

SPEAKER_01 22:48

She wants to get like a specific bag, but I do too now. So I want to look important.

SPEAKER_00 22:53

I want to take the laptop everywhere. You never know.

SPEAKER_01 22:56

Yeah, I guess. Just like the whole me writing nicely, I also want to look professional and take out my laptop and me like let me take a quick note. On your planner or what? My laptop. Oh my god. Okay. Business. Going back into hidden expenses. That's another hidden expense is these damn planners that we have, these notebooks. I mean, it goes into detail like some episode. We even got a whiteboard. My dad really wanted a whiteboard. And so now we have it, and it's actually in the kitchen. So it doesn't sound right, but it's in the kitchen and it's useful. Like he was trying to convince us in the beginning, and we were like, no, like we're not gonna use it. You don't even take notes. You've had calendars before, so why are we gonna put that in the kitchen? Why are we gonna use that? But we still use it.

SPEAKER_00 23:44

Yeah, it's a whole outstanding whiteboard. It's been what's like a whole year. But yeah, we use it. But those little things decor all the decor and our event.

SPEAKER_01 23:54

All the decor is basically handmade. We get ideas, we see ideas off Pinterest, and we're like, oh, can you make this? So we send it to our dad and he goes to Home Depot. Basically. Every month you'll see us with the new decor. So that's something that we're stressing him about. And we have more ideas, so that's you'll start seeing it.

SPEAKER_00 24:16

Yeah, you'll start seeing them pop up.

SPEAKER_01 24:17

But not but that equipment, like for example, porta potties, security, speakers, music. Well, we can do the DJ way, but DJs are expensive. Well, so we're very particular. We are very particular. We have a certain vibe that we want you guys to feel. And you guys we like very 2000 music. We like upbeat music, Spanish music, and we feel like certain DJs have their own vibe that they try to stick with, but we want to do our vibe and it just clashes.

SPEAKER_02 24:51

Yeah, they play their own music, and that's something that like we've always had issues with with DJs. So we just end up doing getting our own speakers, and at the end of the day, our dads, our DJs as well.

SPEAKER_01 25:03

He edits the music, blends. So that's another stressful thing for him. Yeah, but he does that, but it's also easier because we have control of it and we can pick what songs we want. Yeah, so that and then what else? Hidden costs. The speakers. Um, I think it goes into like the last minute trips too. Yeah, those are hidden costs the same day. Like sometimes we'll forget something and we have to go get it. Yeah. And that's like extremely stressful. It's like those little things, those little things start draining our budgets. Yeah. Because we're like, okay, this is how much we're gonna pay this month for permits, insurance, this, this, this, this. But then we're like, hey, we want a new decor. We always have new ideas and we want to keep changing it, and then somehow it doesn't last long. Like we'll be like, We really like it, we want to do this, he'll build it, but then we're like, I don't know, like something's wrong with it. Let's change it up. That oh, yellow tape. Oh my god. That yellow tape is like draining our bank account, guys. And it's the ones that you guys rip and like to go through guys because of you guys. Like, we wouldn't even need yellow tape if you guys would just listen and go in the main entrance, but somehow you guys want to break your back bending over and under and doing the splits underneath the tape. So So because of you guys, we're getting cattle gates now. And you know what? Cattle gates are not cheap. Barricades are not cheap.

SPEAKER_00 26:38

There you go, another expense.

SPEAKER_01 26:40

So it's like stuff like that. Safety things, I mean A-frames to point like more vendors this way, signage to promote our names, banners, all those things start adding up, but everything is for you guys. Yeah. And a lot, I think a lot of people's like honestly, I'm gonna be real, like, for a second. Like, hopefully, there's like suspense music. Get into it, Samantha. So speak on it. To be serious on a serious note, I feel like a lot of vendors think we're making a lot of money. That we because we run this market, how much we charge, because we're thinking we're balling, we're not fair, we're still growing. I mean, it's not like we're very we're not really I guess we're not really pocketing as much as you guys are imagining. Yeah, we're no because everything is recycled and it's something that we learned the hard way since the beginning. We saw the money come in and we're like, whoa, we're gonna be rich. Next event. If you're a market and you're pocketing money and you're making thousands, then damn, look at you at this point. You guys are not doing something right, but the right way. But us a fair way. But us, we're recycling that money. I mean, you guys can see it. Our vendors can see it from day one to day now. Every event we have something new. We do, honestly. We have more. To basically keep growing the market, and that's where the money is going because we keep reusing it. And I think like that's like the frustrating part that like gets me not mad, but gets me disappointed, is when vendors come and they're like, oh well, I can't go to this market, blah blah blah. This is the reason. Can I have money back? And when we say no, it's non-refundable. Oh, you guys are not about the community. It's only selfish? Yeah, like selfish. You guys don't think like okay. No, let's break it down real quick. Like we don't care about you guys. Yeah, basically we're pocketing the money and we just are money. Money hungry. Money grabbers. Yeah, we're money grabbers, I think. It's money grabbers or money hungry. It's one of those words. But I think that's like the frustrating part, and it gets me upset also. Honestly, not gonna lie, it does get me pissed off. Because at the end of the day, how can you say we're money grabbers? We pay for your permit, sweetie. We pay for your insurance. She's getting angry right now, guys. Even thinking about it. We pay property, we pay permits, we pay insurance, we pay marketing, we pay staff, we pay everything for this market to go well, to get your exposure, to get you hopefully you sells. Um, and we don't like when people are like, well, they get all pissed off because it's non-refundable. Like, we already paid your permit. But not only that, it's clearly stated. It's clearly refundable, but they get pissed off because we don't want to bend backwards for them. Yeah. When we already, like Samantha said, we invested so much already. Each event we have to pay the same permits. Like, how is it fair to pay your permit and then for you to expect your money back when we just paid marketing for each other? We put it just paid effort. I mean, I'm the one creating these Canva ideas, these Pinterest ideas, and it gets hard because I have to keep thinking of ideas to keep it fresh. So each market I'm putting efforts going into applications, saving the pictures that you guys apply with to use it as promotion. So it does get hard promoting for you guys, and then for you guys to say, like, basically, it's like, oh, I just want my money back, I don't care what you did. Yeah, that's how it's like it's kind of like a like a F you kind of thing. Yeah, it's like I don't care how much F you put, I want it back. It's like all about you, and it's like something like I don't like and we've been dealing with since like for two years. Like, no. I think it's not as bad because people before would like really write messages, ugly messages. What the hell? Like, we would get hurt. Like, do you not see how much work we put into the market? And it's like I guess no one really understands until they're in your shoes, they'll understand why it's like that way. I mean, as a business, you put money into it, you put money into your products for someone to come back and say, Actually, I paid for it, but can I have my money back? It's like, no, I put effort into that. I think that's it. Yeah, it's like somebody going to your booth and saying, Well, I changed my mind, I don't really want it anymore. How would you feel? And you're like, it's non-refundable, I don't care. You're like, I want my money back. Like you would be like, No, I paid for this, I paid for that, I put so much effort into making it, and it's like a step, it's like they stepped all over it. They don't care about it. I think that just goes back to the whole like a lot of people think we're rolling in dough. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 31:52

Like we're just throwing my I mean you guys see we're s wear we wear the same shoes, the same dirty ass shoes. Yeah. We don't show up in nice cars.

SPEAKER_01 32:04

Don't even say that because they're gonna be looking at the show.

SPEAKER_00 32:05

I know they're gonna look like well, they are right. They are right. They've been wearing that three three events straight.

SPEAKER_01 32:12

No, we wear those shoes because they're comfortable, guys. Okay, they're comfortable. Why would I want a dirty new shoes? Yes. Think about it.

SPEAKER_00 32:19

We have a hundred shoes, guys. But no, seriously. I think that's something else a lot of people.

SPEAKER_01 32:25

I think you guys just should see that we're just very passionate about our business, that we're not at the point where we just want to profit, profit. We want to profit, but at the same time, we want to reinvest into it to make it bigger for you guys. I mean, when we grow, you guys grow. We're closing down the street. Yeah. We're growing, and you guys are gonna be there with us. Yeah. So you guys are growing too. We're expanding that platform for you guys. And I don't know, we're just very passionate.

SPEAKER_00 32:57

Because we're like getting out of sickness, we're just like, I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 33:02

But no, but these are honestly the things like nobody really talks about. Honestly, nobody really talks about the cost, nobody talks about what's said behind the scenes or money, actually. Like, we aren't. And it's only gonna get more expensive because we have bigger plans. We will continue having bigger plans to keep getting bigger. Y'all thought a small market was expensive. Imagine a road closure. It yes, and imagine when we start expanding more, it's just gonna keep adding on, but we're not complaining about it. It's exciting. I mean, when we see the bank account, we're like, damn.

SPEAKER_00 33:40

Oh no, it's a little spooky, but jump scare.

SPEAKER_01 33:47

But we actually love that we're putting the money into something good, and that's what matters. So these costs tie us ties into one topic. Well, fire topic, I guess, like important, like a fire topic. Like, what's that word for word department? No, like where it's like a heated converse, like heated topic. What is spicy? I don't know. Spicy. We'll do spicy. Um like uh important? Yeah, like a debatable, like not even thinking about it.

SPEAKER_00 34:30

It's just important. It's just important. Okay. I wanted to sound cool.

SPEAKER_01 34:34

But so this ties into something that um a lot of we've got in a lot of arguments about. With who? With specifically food. Okay. This is yes, this is like a very hot debate topic. Okay, yeah, that's there you go. Hot debate topic. Okay. So why we're so serious about permits and licenses. And why we get so much shit on it.

SPEAKER_00 35:02

Basically.

SPEAKER_01 35:03

Let's break it down. In the very beginning, we had no idea what a TFE was or what a cottage license is. And probably if you're not dessert or your food, you're probably like, what the hell are you guys talking about? Another thing. If you're are if you're new to it, it's like, whoa, what? Like, what are you talking about? Yeah. So this is something that we've dealt with for a while and we've constantly had issues on is in the very beginning we had no clue what these were. And as a dessert business, if you guys remember how we started, we didn't know about these. So let's like uh let's educate the baddies real quick. Yes. What is a TFE Samantha? So a TFE is basically a temporary food establishment. What that is is if you're cooking on site at an event, you need a TFE. If you're grilling hot dogs, if you're any if you're pulling out grill, if you're cooking or prepping anything, you need that damn TFE. Yes, you have to. There's no way around it. The only way around it is if you are a taco stand in the street.

SPEAKER_00 36:05

They do not pay.

SPEAKER_01 36:06

And then sometimes you'll see the health department pull up and throw their food away. Yes, that is an illegal. They're doing it legally, so without pulling permits, basically. So basically that's a TFE. If you want to cook on site, doesn't matter, grilling hot dogs, making hamburgers, serving awas, anything you can do. Anything hands-on, you have to pay a TFE. Yes. Next one cottage license. A cottage license is for pre-packaged vendors. So that means basically you have to go to the health department and ask them for my permission to cook from your house. You can't cook from your house. And it's very I've heard that it's very like stressful because they have a lot more than I've done. We've looked into it. Like we've honestly looked into it, and you have to have like the cleanest house ever. Like animals have to stay like a certain amount away. Like it has to be like a separation, I think, or And they have to like have a certain permit to sell that markets, I believe. Yes, right. So it's a cottage license. So pretty much any dessert, any pre-package has to have a cottage license. Okay. And now get into food trucks. What licensing do they need? So food trucks, it depends on so a lot of people don't know, but Vegas is broken down into different sectors, uh like counties or districts. Districts, I think. Hunger games right now.

SPEAKER_03 37:26

But districts one. And there's a catness. What is that?

SPEAKER_00 37:31

Three fingers that okay. Can we play that? I don't know. Probably good. But you guys imagine, okay. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 37:42

So um it's broken into different um areas. So we have city of Las Vegas, we have Clark County, we have Henderson, and I think it's those are the three main ones. And uh, if you guys know, we usually just deal with City of Las Vegas. That's where our events are located now. So we do require a food truck to have a city of Las Vegas license. I mean, you can't really come from Henderson and be like, I have a Henderson license. We're not gonna approve you. We can't approve you. We wish we could, but we have city and health department asking for specific licenses. So let's go back into it. So we didn't know from the very beginning that these licenses and permits were required. Oh my god, let's go back to the first event. We had to pay for TFEs. Yes, and we didn't know about a TFE. I think the health department called us. And even one vendor kept pushing TFE. Do you need a TFE? We need your contract. We were like, what? Why do you need our contract? Contract with who? Like, we didn't know. So we were like that's suspicious. We were we were thinking bad, like that's suspicious. They want to see our contract. But no. And then we found out health department's like, no, we need TFEs, and they didn't get mad at us because it was our first event, but we had to pay out of pocket for the TFE for these vendors that we took in, and we also had to pay the late fee added on top of it. Yeah, and then we were we didn't know about cottage licensing. So I know one event health department shows up and she looks over and she's like, Um, does that dessert vendor have a cottage license? And I'm like, What is that? And she's like, She can't be selling like thrust leches. Because you need a milk milk. Yeah, you need a fridge. You can't sell milk with the cottage license because like I thought you need a fridge. No, like I don't think it's labeled under like thrust leches is like because it's dairy, like dairy can get people sick. Yeah, and it was summer.

SPEAKER_00 39:35

Oh my god. So we didn't. Why was that a red flag for us? Yeah, so we didn't know, we didn't know, guys.

SPEAKER_01 39:43

So now we know, and that's a topic that we have to explain to a lot of people is because a lot of people don't know it for themselves. So instead of educating themselves or just asking a question, well, why why can't I be accepted? Well, even when they ask why can't I be ex uh accepted, we tell them they're like, What? Yeah, so a lot of people are like, Well, you guys, because okay, guys. Another thing, serious moment. We are for we say we are for the community, we are for small businesses. But we are for the community, we are for small businesses, we are we want to uplift everyone we could, but at the same time, we are for the legit way. Yes, we have to do it the right way, and when we say the right way, we're not talking about retail vendors, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 40:33

Like retail vendors, guys, we pay for your license.

SPEAKER_01 40:35

Like, you guys don't need if you guys want to have a business license, you guys can have a business license. That's another add-on which we pay a fee for your business license if you don't have one, but retail's easy. Yeah, retail's easy to listen to you guys. Yeah, but you guys can listen to be cheese mess. But this is cheese by so so yeah, so a lot of feedback we get is well, you guys are not for the community. Because you guys do not take everyone, you guys are not helping us businesses who don't have permits, who don't. So let's break it down again. Yes, we cannot take a non-cottage vendor because health department does show up out at our events. Yes, they do. And if you are at a legit event, you will see health department there. Yes, and like ten out of ten times they should be showing up. Yeah, they should be. And sometimes they might not go around. Do they usually go around? Sometimes they do with us, they already know us, so they're kind of like, uh, today, yeah, sure. Tomorrow, next time. It just really depends, honestly. Yeah. If it's the same vendors like always, then they really don't like they don't. Unless it's a new vendor. Unless it's a new yes. But for like cottage license, we you have to imagine the scenario. Yeah. You come in and you're not a licensed cottage. So imagine you go in and you don't have a license. And you're excited. You are making your first time. I understand you put a lot of work, you made all your desserts at home. Maybe you didn't wear gloves when you're making them. I don't know. Let's just set the scene, you know. There was a dog in the kitchen. Maybe there's dog hair in your food, or maybe you're extremely clean, but you don't know nothing about temperatures, temperatures, and you don't know anything about what cottage licensing is, but then you come to an event, health department shows up, they are not gonna be that nice, and they will throw away your food. You will be a taco stand. You will be a taco stand, or you'll be told to be to leave. They'll tell you to leave. No, they will throw away your stuff. Oh, they will too. They will. So Math deals with the health department. They will like learning myself right now. I'm like, really? They yes, if you don't, they will throw away your stuff because they're worried is their worry. Their worry is they think you will go back and sell it somewhere else. Oh, so it's like a prevention. Prevention. So they don't care if you put money into your product, if you don't have the licensing, they will throw it away. Which is what we want to prevent happening at our events. We want to keep it safe, not only for you guys, for our customers, for our attendees. We don't want that bad reputation, like I'm gonna go to this market and I might risk getting food poisoning. Like, you don't know. And it also goes down to TFEs, and that's another basically a con a huge issue we have that connects all three of these licenses is people come and say, Well, I did this market and I didn't need that. Why are you? I did this market and I was able to ven, and they didn't ask for no permits, they didn't ask for licensing, so why are you guys being so picky? We're not. We wish we w could take everyone, we wish we can fully support you guys in that way, but that's where we draw the line. We have to keep it legit and safe and do it the right way. We just have to. We have to take the right city permits for city licenses for food trucks. I mean We've got protects, it protects they think that we're rejecting them on purpose. We've gotten a lot of specific food trucks that don't have the right licensing or didn't have the licensing explain. And they got pit they would get pissed off like, well, you're being unfair. I was just vending somewhere and they let me, so why don't you get our fault? Maybe contact health department then or contact city. Yeah, so that's where it's like we have to draw the line to where it protects our market, it protects our vendors, customers, and it keeps our market legit. Yes. And it allows you guys as vendors to grow also. We do not want to see our vendors' items being thrown away. I mean, just as much as it would hurt you guys seeing it thrown in the trash, all that effort and hard work. We wouldn't want that to happen. So we prevent it and we do expect these things beforehand. And we explain these things. We've gotten in so many questions like how do I find this out? We'll tell you to reach a certain go online and find the the right application if you want to do cottage licensing, or we'll explain w explain what a TFE is. Yeah, and it goes down to even TFE. TFEs are important as well. I mean, there is certain like guidelines, things like that. Like we don't want any vendor to come in, any food tent to come in cooking and not know their TSC le TCS levels? Is it TCS? Temperature temperature control. Safety. TCS. Yeah, TCS. Temperature control. Like there's so much that goes into it that a lot of people are like, Well, you're not being fair.

SPEAKER_02 45:38

You're being you're being this, you're being that, you're not helping. No, like it helps you at the end of the day as well.

SPEAKER_01 45:44

Yes, and it's I mean, if you guys want to do everything the right way and you guys want to actually succeed and grow in the business economy, I guess you can say. Business world. Business world, do it the right way. Go get a health card. I mean, me and Samatha have our own health card. We did the test, and I don't like tests personally, but I studied hard and I got that. And it feels good to know that you're doing it the right way. It does. You don't want to play, it's not a at the end of the day, it's not a risk game. Yeah. It's not a like, oh, like cross my fingers that hopefully like I feel like that would be even more stressful. Yeah. Like that that's honestly what it comes down to the end of the day is either do it the legit way or cross your fingers and pray to God that you don't get your items thrown away.

SPEAKER_02 46:31

And that's money that just was thrown out the window.

SPEAKER_01 46:34

So basically to clear up Samantha topic, Samantha's topic from the beginning is no. We want to help everyone succeed and support all the small businesses, but we do draw a line when it comes to legitimacy. Legitimacy. We but if we require it, it's because we want you to win at the end of the day. Yes, we do draw a line of where we need our permits and licensing. And if maybe I think you guys know, if you guys are joining a market that doesn't need those things, then you kind of know that they're pocketing the money, but also it's not a legit market. Yeah, and any second health department or city, honestly, can show up and shut down the event. So, like even those events that you see, oh, we canceled it last minute, there's probably a reason why their event got canceled. Since we ended the note on the last topic about w uh closing markets down, basically let's get into that. I think that we um we don't really like to dwell on the past. We like to move forward, we like to stay positive. But I mean, most of you know there was a official statement that we put out there, but we can vocally talk about it now. Like you can hear us actually speaking on it, but also I feel like we have a right to express how we feel on this topic.

SPEAKER_02 48:11

But it honestly goes into also how this podcast, this podcast episode, because we are talking about expenses, professionalism, the responsibilities we take. And like you said, if we do legit ways and other people come to us and they're like, Well, this market, they're doing it the illegal way. So, yeah, let's touch base on that then.

SPEAKER_01 48:32

So time has passed, but I feel like we still hear stuff. For some reason, it's something that we can't get away with. I guess can't get away with? Can't get away from yeah, can't get away from stuttering, but let's just say that we stay on everyone's mind. Rent-free. Rent-free constantly. But we just want to make a big statement and just say there is room for everyone and we stand by that. We don't grow by tearing others down. We stand strong by that. We do not care about tearing others down, about shutting down markets or events. We do not participate in those actions. We do not have time to participate in those activities, I guess you can say. Um This is the cheese meet part. It doesn't get us anything. If you guys think about it, like what would we get out of it if we were shutting down events left and right? What would we get out of that? Like we really wouldn't get anything. And it would just take a lot of time when we can instead focus on growing our own platform and business. Yeah. Like we're more concerned about our market at the end of the day and doing everything by the book. Whoever people who still have our names in their mouth, you guys should be focused on your business too and growing your market, just like we're focused on ours, and that's what matters. I mean, let's get into it. Let's go into how we've been blamed multiple times for shutting events markets down by different organizers. We've heard uh rumors, we've seen it. We have our little people. We can't say our little people. We have our little people that do tell us the gossip and they do inform us of the comments being thrown left and right about us, and we just feel like we don't really deserve something that has no evidence, no proof. We're the type of family that if you got something to say about us, we want receipts. Receipts, but also to say to our face. Yeah. We don't like people who are we don't like being talked about behind our backs. I don't think anyone genuinely doesn't like that. But we rather just handle it offline. Yeah. We rather it's better handling it offline because then it's you shouldn't need social media presence with you to handle something so uh professional. Yeah, I feel like if you're in this kind of business at our level, then you don't do things on social media. You do it in a professional way. Like back in the days. I mean sending letters, nothing cool up at our house.

SPEAKER_00 51:21

Yeah, like sending letters, letter mills, like back in the day when there was like no media.

SPEAKER_01 51:27

If there's a problem or if there's a question, or if you feel like we did something to you or offended you, that's something that you should come to us directly and we can handle it. Yeah. Like adults. But we've been um accused for many things that you guys do not hear. We've been accused for shutting down markets, we've been accused for having alcohol during our events for some reason, even though we don't do alcohol. We don't do alcohol, but at the same time, the picture was from a vendor that was. No, it was a restaurant. I looked up the restaurant name and it was the whole ass restaurant, like a breakfast cafe. So we don't do that. Um, we've been told that um ice was going to come. That they would call ice on us. Like that's that we actually got offended by. I mean, we get offended by all these comments that you guys throw, but when we hear such a sensitive subject being brought up so lightly, thrown around so lightly during what we're going through right now, I mean the world is going through, that's like that's really fucked up. Yeah, like that's like just something you don't cross, but that's something that we've been told also. Um, what else have we been told? Oh, we've been told that we don't care about the community, we don't care about our vendors. What else is uh we've been told that because we don't follow everyone back, yeah, because we don't follow our 30 whatever K followers that we don't care. Round of applause real quick to be a sound edit in there, but we don't follow back every vendor that joins us, and as much as we would like to, we try not to show preference. I mean, we just are b following back our loyal vendors who come monthly to our events, but it is hard to follow vendors that come and go. Yeah. So our loyal vendors will be followed back, so we're slowly trying to follow back everyone, but it is hard. I think when it comes down to like social media, I think that's our decision. Like, if we want to block your ass, we will quickly block you because we don't want to deal with your negativity. We don't. Why would we want to see that on our feed? Like, that's what a block button is for. And a lot of people get very offended because they're like, well, they blocked us. Like, they're the ones that shut us down. No, sweetie, it does correlate for a reason. We blocked it for a reason because something you blocked we blocked one person because that person snuck in another vendor against our rules. And that's not something we want to deal with. Oh, okay. I know what you're talking about. And then the other one we blocked because of the BS that they were causing. Yes, and as much as we say, like, okay, we don't want you guys to we want everyone to bring up their own ideas, but we do block the people that are copying word by word things, things that we put a lot of effort on. So when we see that we're like, damn, you guys are just joining our markets just to be nosy, like just to steal our ideas when all of us should have our own ideas. Well, not even that.

SPEAKER_02 54:33

Our stuff is copyrighted.

SPEAKER_01 54:34

Yes.

SPEAKER_02 54:35

So yeah, that's uh next level.

SPEAKER_01 54:38

And then we find out that there's markets that are reaching out to our vendors and saying we're just gonna do things. Yeah, we're that's not something we so that's a reason maybe we also block you. So there's there's reasons. Multiple reasons. Like we don't do it for fun. We're not gonna go and explain to you, but also it's just to keep our account professional. It's to keep the negativity out of our platform. We don't want any of that. Somebody coming in with their five fake accounts. Harass harassing us. We don't need the death threats constantly. We don't need Yeah, we've honestly gotten threats of we're gonna show up at your house and kick your ass. Like we're gonna go to the next one. Harassment, and that's where like, yeah, a lot of you guys don't see behind the scenes like what we go through. Yes, we're getting harassed and bullied over here and nobody cares. But this is stuff that we go through and stuff that we don't need in our life. I don't think anyone wants that in their life, so that's why the block button is there. That is why we quickly press it each time, like block block block. We're quite to block people and we don't care about it. We even block people that say on our post, go back to Cali. Oh my god, we got so many comments back in the day, and there's like go back to go back to Cali. You guys are ghetto, stuff like that. We were like, what the hell? And they wouldn't even be following us. So where are you going? To our blocked file. It's it's easy as that. We don't care, we don't want that negativity, we don't want bullies, we don't want haters, we don't want any evil eye, we believe in that. Yeah. So we just wanted to come on here and explain like the stuff that we went through, the stuff that we don't agree with.

SPEAKER_00 56:28

But that's that's also what it goes into running a business, running a market is just a lot of a lot of haters, honestly.

SPEAKER_01 56:35

A lot of people who honestly, it's like childish stuff that I feel like we shouldn't be focusing on. Like we should all be focusing on growth and supporting each other, and we hear it to this day, and act and it's not even like oh my god, like again, it's comical at this point. It's really comical because like Sabrina said in the beginning, like we literally stay rep-free in your mind. So hopefully you're listening to this. If you are, but it's yeah, it's at the end, it just pushes us to keep going and to keep growing. I mean, the hate comments that we do get, we do get those comments that like Smatha said, like, we're not for the community or our market's trash. We've gotten reposts of vendors because they don't sell, they'll repost on their story, like, don't come to this market, the market is bad. I don't know. For some reason, we're portrayed as evil little women. What's up with you and little? Because we're little, yeah, we are small. We're just short, so um, we're just portrayed as evil people. And a lot of the times, like you hear their stories and you're like, oh my god, they're bitches. But then nobody hears our stories. And that's the frustrating part is that we want to keep everything professional so we don't want to go into the hate, the drama. We really don't want to go into it, including um our business, like posting, oh drama this, drama that. We don't want to be constantly feeding into the negativity. So I guess this is where we can actually feed into it.

SPEAKER_00 58:08

In a nice way.

SPEAKER_01 58:09

In a nice way. We can actually talk about it and let it off our chest. I think we all have a right to our opinions and a right to our feelings. So it's nice to be able to talk about it.

SPEAKER_00 58:20

But actually, but like actually like hear our star side two.

SPEAKER_01 58:24

Like mo like pretty much all if you've ever heard anything bad about us, like, it's not because of us. It's because the vendors didn't follow the rules. But honestly, in any situation, there's always two sides of the story, and you shouldn't only hear out one side. You should be able to hear both sides and then make your own opinion on it. Whether you disagree with us or you don't, that's your decision. But at least we feel like we can express to you guys, and we we know what's right in heart, we know what's wrong.

SPEAKER_02 58:54

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 58:55

So you guys see, like it's not all girly and cute. No, it's a freaking mess behind the scenes, battleground behind the scenes, and you guys don't see it, but we are grateful you guys for you guys for the supporters that were standing by us, the supporters that uh sto stood by us while this was going on. Yeah, and like we said in the beginning, we don't grow by tearing others down. We really don't. That's really not our intention. We're females, we're I guess you can say we're just really into supporting people.

SPEAKER_02 59:29

We are, and we're more about uplifting and helping the community and everything.

SPEAKER_01 59:34

And yeah, at the end of the day, haters gonna hate. Like we said in like the first episode, haters drive us to grow even more, and we're not gonna stop because of a hate comment.

SPEAKER_02 59:46

A hate comment or anything.

SPEAKER_01 59:57

Okay, so our next topic is going to be quick lessons. I think we've done this before, so let's get right into it. It's gonna be like a rapid fire, kind of quick in your face kind of thing. We need like a title for this section. So if you guys have any ideas.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:12

Yeah, we need a title.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:14

Give us ideas uh in the I was gonna say in the description, like the YouTube video. Give us ideas in the in messages, DMs. DMs, girl. We're listening. Yeah, we read it, we uh Yeah, we need like an idea topic for quick lessons. Something with rapid, like rapid fire. Okay, but um not everyone will get your vision and that's okay. So, Samatha or me? Um, yeah. So meaning is basically you can come out with a vision and some people are not gonna see it. For example, we got a comment the other day, like it was really bothering that person because that person couldn't get a tote back. Okay. And because it's only for girls. So we kind of made it clear, like blah blah blah blah blah. This is why we're gonna do it. Why we do it for girls. I mean, it's something that we can't bluntly say. I mean, we feel like girls don't really have much to do in Vegas. I mean, we just started getting Pilates. Yeah. We've just started getting like rentals. Like these little clubs going on. Like we've seen it, we like we've seen it, and there's a lot now that are coming, but a lot of things in Vegas go towards the guys. Yes. And that's why when we did this market, we were like, we're not gonna do that black and white whole business. Like, that's no. We're gonna do something for the girls. We're girls, let's do something for the game. It's like more of a woman empowerment empowerment that we have going on. We just want to really uplift other women and gays. I mean, the tote bags are full for both, but specifically this straight man wanted a tote bag, and we had to explain to him, no, your girlfriend got one. That's fine, just your girlfriend. But he really wanted one, and it was like he wanted to go back and forth on it on something that we already have it set. I mean, it's all over our flyers, our everywhere, but that's something that a lot of people are don't understand as your vision. You might have this vision and be like, oh my god, like I love it, and somebody else might come and critique it and say, What kind of vision is this? That's stupid. But as long as you have your vision, I think that's what matters matters. You don't need anyone's approval, you don't need to have anyone on your wagon with you. If you believe in yourself, you can go far. And that's what this lesson is basically explaining to you. Second lesson is you're allowed to grow out loud. Yes. So I believe this one matters because everyone believes that it has to be perfect when having a business or starting off a business. I mean, we understand that we want it to be perfect in a way, but after learning, it's okay to make mistakes and it's okay to pivot to new ideas or new business ideas. Like let's say one day you want to sell lao boo-boos and clothing, and the next day you don't want to sell that anymore. It's okay to grow in that way. It's not like no one's judging you as as long as you're happy. Uh it doesn't matter to anybody, it matters to you only. Yeah, nobody should really care about what you're doing in your life. Yeah. And then I think the last lesson would be if it scares you a little, it probably matters. In a good way. I think that it's important to take risks when having a business. I mean, like we've talked about it multiple times. We were scared of changing our logo, of changing our aesthetic, because we were thought we were gonna lose a lot of people. And we thought that people weren't gonna see the vision. But taking that risk and being scared, like I actually remember telling Samantha and I was concerned for a little bit, like I don't know if we should start leaning towards only making it very girly. I'm scared we're gonna lose a lot of our audience. But Samantha explained, like, who cares? I would have to be like, Who cares? Like who cares? This is us, and we can just be who we are, and maybe people will like it. We can't change for other people. Yeah, and I think we've got really lucky because you guys liked it and you guys accepted us. So if it does scare you, then it does matter. It probably does matter, and I would say take the risk. If you are scared, like the second lesson, to if you're scared to move to a different type of business and go from tumblers to baking baking and scaring you, just take the risk. Because at the end of our day, what's the worst that can happen? Like if you heard us today and you got scared, like, oh shoot, I'm scared now, I don't know if I should do it this way. Like, I have to get all these licensing permits. We're not here to scare you, we're just here to educate you, but also it's good to take risks, guys. It's good to take those risks because it will grow you as a person. It will build character at the end of the day. Yeah, we get scared to this day. Yes, there's each theme we do, each flyer we do, we do get worried about our freaking reels. Like, oh my god, is this but we take the risk because we want everyone's approval, we want you guys to like it, and we know that you guys will. Not everyone will see the vision, but we know you guys kind of see the vision, I guess you can say. But at the end of the day at the end of the day, it just matters that I don't even know what I'm saying. What was I saying? At the end of the day, if it does scare you, just take the risk. But take it in the right way with us, though.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:45

Yes, it goes back to our rules. Don't be sneaky.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:51

If you want to start that business, start that damn business. If you really want something, just go for it. Take that risk, don't be scared, and that's what. We've learned along the way is just do it. Taking risk really opens opportunities for you and opens doors. Okay. So since we've been getting all sentimental and deep on this episode, for some reason, out of like this other two episodes, we're like very deep in this room. I'm over here getting out of breath, guys. I'm like really excited to talk to you guys, I think. I'm missing two two weeks? One week? One week, yeah. One week. Yeah, we're just having withdrawal, basically.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:36

Like we've been so enclosed at home talking on these damn meetings. And we're just going to be able to do that. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:44

We just want someone to listen to.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:45

So deal with it.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:47

But let's do something more fun. Let's rate these things one to ten. One the worst, ten the best. Or should we switch in and do ten the worst? One the worst. Okay. One the wor one the best, ten the worst. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Okay. Market stress. Uh that's like a ten. That's like an eleven. Yeah. It's freaking stressful. It's the day before stressful. The week of is stressful. The day of is stressful. It could be stress about the weather. It could be stress about your damn outfits. It could be stress about um vendors. Um, if they're cooperating or if they want to be feisty that day, it could be stress about anything, but 100% a ten. Eleven for me. Like, eleven's not even on the like ten. Ten. Eleven. Yeah. Okay, set up chaos. Ten. I think in the beginning it was a ten. But now that we have staff, our we're very grateful to have our staff now to help us so it's easier, but it's still stressful. So it would be you guys with the damn tape.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:52

That's stressful for us.

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But probably, yeah, that is true. A ten back then, probably now it'd be like maybe like a three. Wow, really? Yeah, it's easy. We went really down. I was gonna say a six. A six? Yeah. It's because it is still stressful because I mean we need vendors to like cooperate with us. Sometimes they don't want to. Sometimes they want to go under tape, do the splits. Sometimes they want to go at a different spot. Yeah, sometimes they're setting up in different spots when they know there's a lot of people. Yeah, we're like, how can you get in the number one space in the front?

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I have probably a five that a five. That is true. Budget anxiety.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:33

I don't even handle budget. So do I have a say? I mean, with numbers, I don't think no one trustes me with numbers with money.

SPEAKER_00 1:08:41

We don't trust her with that kind of stuff.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:43

I mean, I told Samantha like not too long ago. I feel like I'm subconsciously smart when it comes to math. Like when someone's saying, Oh, what's nine times six? I'll say the number in my head and I'm like, oh, it's this. And then they say it and they're like, oh, it's this. And I was right. Like right now, I don't know what it is. But in her mind, in my mind, I just feel like it's like that one movie. What's that one movie that he has powers? Who? The one that says murder? Red Rum?

SPEAKER_00 1:09:11

Red Which movie is that? The shiny? Yeah. Doesn't he have like people talking to him or something? Yeah, the spirits. Yeah. That's Sabrina. She has spirits.

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I tell you, I could handle it, but I just feel like it would be too much pressure and I can't handle it. So I shouldn't have a say on this rating. So I tap out. Budget anxiety. I think I get anxious with money. You get anxious? Samatha's always, oh my god, it is true. I don't even have to deal with the money. I can hear it and it gets me anxiety. Like I don't even know like the I know costs and I'm aware of everything, but when it comes to like actually handling and budgeting, that's where I step out. I don't do no budgeting, but it's a temp for me. It's more like my mom and my dad. But do the budgeting for us. If you leave it to us, is that they do the more serious adult work when we don't know. We're adults, but if you leave it to us, we would have like nothing in our bank account. We would do arches and balloon arches everywhere. Like we wouldn't budget.

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We should have no budget. But yeah, a 10 for me.

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Because I do I do stress about it. Samantha's stress is about it, and she's always like, oh no, we're low. We're this, we're that. I'm like, Samantha, no, we're not. We're fine. We're fine. Next one is post-market exhaustion. That's hard. Probably a 10. Yeah, that's a 10. As most that you guys don't know. Okay, you guys see you guys see a whole ass U-Haul pull up to the event. So, quick lesson. We have all the baddies because they need to be educated. You guys don't know the efforts. Behind the scenes. And you guys will start seeing it because we're gonna start making vlogs. Yes. So you'll see our rusty, musty like loading up these trailers, and you're like, ooh, but this is hard, and we have we put so much effort and love into it. So yeah, behind the scenes is usually the night before our events, we get a U-Haul. A freaking it's the like the next one to the biggest U-Haul. We're almost to the biggest U-Haul. But the biggest one is for like moving. It's like the 25. It's a we use a 20-foot right now. Yeah. We're almost to the 25. But the night before we go to our storage unit and we get all the stuff for the market, which you're gonna see in the vlogs. But we also have a trailer, another trailer attached to it. Attached to so we take this U-Haul everywhere, and the night before it's me, my sister, and my dad that go and do this at night and prep the U-Haul. And it's spooky at night. It's spooky at night, and we're loading up the trailer. We come home with like unexpected bruises. I had a cut on my foot, and I was showing Samantha that I don't know how I got it. I had bruises all over my knees. Remember, we're females. We're females, and Samantha is five foot on four ten. So like an A-frame is almost my height, guys. Rita's basically carried herself. We're carrying an A-frame on top of my knee. We're carrying tables. Like it's like we're carrying metal freaking chairs. Like, so yeah, so post-market exhaustion. But not that it's a 10. We're loading up. Yeah, we are not mentioning the day after. So we come home, we usually get home late, and then we're like, we're not gonna deal with the U-Haul, so we do it always Sundays. And we have to freaking wake up early and go unload this U-Haul back to the storage unit. Yeah. So it's that, but then also we have to post, we have to reply back to your guys's.

SPEAKER_00 1:12:56

So if you guys get late messages from us, it's because we're tired.

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And then that's why I was doing recaps like on the next day Sunday, but damn. No, like yeah, it's too much. So we do it like usually Mondays recaps. So post market exhaustion all the way 10. Yeah. That's like I think on top of market stress. No, I think actually, I think market stress is less than post-market exhaustion. I think that beats it. I think it's like no, I don't know. I think it's fair. It's fair. I think it's fair. I think that loading up that even thinking about it. We have to do it this upcoming Sunday. I dread it. This Friday and Sunday. Not ready for that. But that's a 10 for sure. So we hoped you guys really enjoyed this episode, and we apologize for the last week not being having a podcast uh episode out. But before we go, we're really excited about next week's episode because we're gonna be talking about something we live with every single day. That's being girly, but still being taken seriously in business. Yes, that's something that we struggle with. I think being being woman uh business owners is pretty hard for the world that we live in. But that's for next week's episode. I'm not gonna get into it, but we hope you guys liked it. We hope that we sounded okay. I don't know if we sound very nasally congested. Probably do. We're probably we hope we sound okay. We hope you guys like today's topics and it is special. See you guys Saturday. Yes, we're closing down the street. So we will see you and hopefully we look fine to you guys. Yes. Hopefully, we if you guys listen to it, please let us know that you liked it. And if you have any feedback, let us know. Yes, we'll be listening and not listening, reading your comments, and we'll talk to you guys soon. Bye, we're gonna be able to get a lot of the same.