Talkin’ ’Bout My St. Louis Park Generations Gen X vs Gen Z Music Swap

From their “park bench perspective,” Carlos and Mike (“Hammer”) welcome Mike’s Gen Z daughter, Georgia, to discuss generations and music. They joke about Gen X vs. baby boomers, naming conventions like Gen Alpha/Beta, and how streaming and Bluetooth changed music discovery compared with radio. The group sets homework for a cross-generational song exchange to review next week: Carlos assigns The Ramones’ “I Want to Be Sedated,” Mike assigns Neil Young’s “Comes a Time” (favoring the Live Rust version), and Georgia assigns “Stateside” (Zara Larsson remix) and Olivia Dean’s “Man, I Need.” They also touch on music videos, artists’ views on digital music and Guitar Hero, pop-culture drama, and how music shaped family memories, including funerals and concerts Georgia attended as a child.

00:00 Park Bench Intro
00:31 Meet Georgia
00:53 Generations Explained
02:28 Music Swap Setup
04:17 Old School Picks
07:38 Modern Pop Pick
10:10 Mike Picks Neil Young
12:40 Second Georgia Song
14:30 Pop Culture Tease
14:46 Pop Culture Tea
15:20 Fleetwood Mac Drama
16:51 Music and Grief
19:58 Signs and Synchronicity
20:30 Billie Eilish Question
22:12 Mom's Music Influence
24:42 Katy Perry Obsession
27:43 Wrap Up and Song List

https://open.spotify.com/playlist/43TAzoJWwrwFcvM9Zry110?si=ueoRSc5uS_KJuGEsnueIbg

Transcript

SPEAKER_03 0:32

And we have a special friend of the pot, huh? We have Mike's daughter, Georgia. Georgia Hammer, how you doing?

SPEAKER_02 0:37

Doing all right. Hello, everyone.

SPEAKER_03 0:39

She go ahead. She's my favorite daughter. Wow. Dad joke. Bring it.

SPEAKER_04 0:46

Oh, I got a lot of those, don't I? So Georgia, Georgia.

SPEAKER_03 0:49

What jokes do I got? George Georgia, I don't know generations beyond my own, but are you are you considered Gen Z?

SPEAKER_02 0:56

I am. I am. I'm like right in like What are we considered?

SPEAKER_03 0:59

Like the book. We're Gen X. We are Gen X. We were like NISP baby booners, but Gen X. Well, no, so I mean, I you know, I mean, I'll go Cliff Clavin. I apologize I'm stealing your time here, Georgia, but I like to explain things. So after World War II, soldiers come back, have lots of hee and and she-in going on, a lot of babies. They call that the baby boom.

SPEAKER_04 1:20

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:20

1965, the year that you and I were born, was the first year after World War II where the population, the births went down. They call that the baby bust. They identify 65. Some people will say that 65 is a boomer. We're not a boomer because we're a bust. So that's where Gen X comes from.

SPEAKER_04 1:37

Not as many snowstorms nine months before or a year before we were born, huh?

SPEAKER_03 1:42

You know, I I don't know. I think it was just soldiers, you know, that got lonely over on, you know, Normandy Beach and came home.

SPEAKER_04 1:48

And but I mean, usually it's funny if you trace back to a surge there's a snowstorm or bad weather.

SPEAKER_03 1:53

Well, yeah, there's the very famous birth bubble that happened in New York City after the blackout of two or three days.

SPEAKER_02 1:59

But it's curious to think too how they're deciding now to just change it from all these creative names till you guys are Gen X, and then there was a millennial in between, and now it's Gen Z, but they're going towards going Gen Alpha. The next one's supposed to be Gen Beta, right? I don't know.

SPEAKER_03 2:15

I'll be dead. I by the way.

SPEAKER_02 2:17

Imagine wanting to be called Gen Beta. I don't know.

SPEAKER_03 2:19

I yeah, you know, that's not, you know, that's not very after Alpha. Yep. I mean, I, you know, Generator.

unknown 2:27

Generator.

SPEAKER_02 2:28

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 2:28

So we wanted to have you on here because we're talking about music, and I my musical tastes are rather eccentric, but I, when I'm in my car, I listen to 70s on seven on satellite radio. I listen to 70s music. So I'm not exposed to very much music. And I said to myself, how can I say my music's better if I have not listened to anything? What we would like to do, Georgia, is we'd like you to give us a couple songs that represent your music and have us listen to it, and then next week we'll come back and talk about it. And your father and I are going to give you two songs from our generation. Have you listen to it and let us know what you think when we come back and talk about it? Sounds fair?

SPEAKER_02 3:09

That sounds great. So you're telling me not every man in America around your guys' 50s, 60s age has had the pleasure that my dad has of listening to Justin Bieber, Katie Perry, you know what? My pre-teenage every time you're talking about.

SPEAKER_03 3:23

You know, I I actually I there's that one song by Bieber that he wrote about his ex-girlfriend. Where you got his speeches where it's like, you know, my mama don't like you, and she likes everyone. I'm like, damn, son, that's a diss. So I have listened to some.

SPEAKER_04 3:37

There you go. Real quick, I was gonna say, there's you know how it works now because back when we grew up, yeah, you listened to the radio, and that was your like you didn't have it on your phone, you couldn't go, you couldn't when your car somebody gets in your car, they commandeer your your your Bluetooth, and all of a sudden you're not listening to hardly anything you want to. But that's saying that that would make it easy for us not to know some of those songs because we don't have to listen to the radio and listen to those songs, but I got it first.

SPEAKER_03 4:05

So we've actually gonna do this. I've got a song, Mike's got a song, Georgia's got two songs. So why don't we do it one at a time? I'll go first, then Georgia will give one, then Mike will give one, and Georgia will give us the last one. All right. So I'm gonna do you very well may have heard this. There was a band that started in the 70s called the Ramones. And they had a song called I Wanna Be Sedated. So one of your homework assignments is to listen to I Wanna Be Sedated by the Ramones.

SPEAKER_02 4:33

Is that the one with the guitar little?

SPEAKER_03 4:35

And it goes dun dun dun dun dun dun.

SPEAKER_02 4:37

Okay, I don't, so that's a good one because I don't know the song much, but it was on Guitar Hero back in the day. And I wanna, and I remember my older brother or one of my brothers used to play that love that one. So I don't I have like a faint slight memory, but not really.

SPEAKER_04 4:54

And and something you could find out about it too, or when you when you do some some history behind where that song came out, and it's actually been in a lot of movies because when they want to refer back to that, it actually wasn't Stranger Things better.

SPEAKER_02 5:07

Well speaking of Guitar Hero, I shouldn't bring it up when we're talking about music and rock and roll. Well, you know, Prince himself though really spoke down against Guitar Hero. Really? He actually the first guitar hero was released with from I'm guessing it was purple purple, but it was some some one of his songs, and he actually forced Guitar Hero to recall all of his first CDs, take his music off of it, because he said it's a trap, it's gonna it's a travesty if you now allow kids or if kids now are wanting to grow up and just play video games and not learn how to actually play the guitar. So maybe I shouldn't be able to.

SPEAKER_03 5:44

You know, it's actually it's interesting that you know, and and these are the rabbit holes that we go down when we want to talk about one thing and we get to something else, but it's natural. So, you know, there are some musicians like Neil Young, is someone that we talked a lot about in our last episode about music. Neil Young is someone who is very much against digital music and tried to start his own one because he said the quality of the music is so they they I don't know what the word is, they compressed the files so much that the sound isn't as good. And he actually had tried his own music service with a higher fidelity that went nowhere. I think Jack White is. I mean, you got these hardcore musicians who are like, don't mess with my stuff. Yeah, I know.

SPEAKER_02 6:22

Yeah, Jay-Z wants title, once, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 6:24

I know what I've heard uh uh Weird Al has gotten some some responses from people who were like, to me, it'd be like that'd be the ultimate. If Weird Owl makes a fun of my song, that'd be awesome.

SPEAKER_04 6:34

You couldn't go last year. You didn't get the chucker. You guys went to the Weird Owl song, Treasure Island. Yeah, I had way more fun than I thought I would have. I I knew a song, but I didn't know exactly his infatuation with Star Wars and all the He's a nerd, dude. But I know, but he had great songs and he put a lot of thought into all the songs, and I didn't know the amount of singalongs and the amount of kind of like WWE wrestling when I went to wrestling. I was glad I had a kid with me.

SPEAKER_03 7:08

It explains things for me. And by the way, I'm maybe the only idiot on the planet. I thought the Weird Owl movie was a biographical picture of Weird Owl. It's not, it's a Weird Owl fever acid dream, you know? He was not dating Britney Spears. I mean, all this stuff's happening. I'm like, really?

SPEAKER_02 7:25

Well, nothing like my dad coming home that next Thanks for giving him those tickets because it was nothing like blast from when I was in the third grade hearing all these weird owl sound songs for a week straight. So that was quite a blast from the past.

SPEAKER_03 7:39

So rather than hit you with so much old people stuff, Georgia, give us a song.

SPEAKER_02 7:43

All right. Because I have two songs, I'm going kind of opposite ends of the spectrum. My I can't tell for the first one if I should go what you guys would kind of stereotype a 20s, teenager, today's pop world, or if I should go more of like the ones that I'd see someone from your life. I probably haven't heard it, so it's all good. That'd be a good song no matter what. So for the first one, I'm gonna do the more the slap in your face. Okay. And it's fitting with the times having the Winter Olympics just ended, because of course there's the stateside plus Zara Larson remix with pink pink panthress and Zara Larson. And it was what Alyssa Liu danced to on the figure skater, the girl with the literal winner winner, the everything of Winter Olympics. She was the Winter Olympics. I mean, half that hair, half that and but this was for her, not when she was competing, the one that was at the end for just for funds, but it was by far probably the most iconic and viral of the figure skating dances because half because of the song, half because of her dance. It's just a it's a bop. Let's say that. And boys or men, real men, know how to bop. Okay.

SPEAKER_03 9:12

I don't know how to bop. Like a bop.

SPEAKER_02 9:14

You can bop the pop girls.

SPEAKER_03 9:16

You know what? And the thing is, it's like for you to bop right now on an audio only podcast would be gold. You could just lie and say, God, you're doing a very slow. You can lie and say, God, look how bopy is that.

SPEAKER_02 9:28

It's stateside.

SPEAKER_03 9:29

Stateside.

SPEAKER_02 9:30

Plus Zara Larson, because originally it was one song, and then they added on a side.

SPEAKER_03 9:35

I would I would like to include Spotify links. So if you could get you send me send me a Spotify link to that song, so I will be listening to that. I've never heard it, did not watch any of the Winter Olympics.

SPEAKER_02 9:47

So And if you're a true MTV music video type girl or boy on whoever listens, the music video is actually super cool because it combines the original music video.

SPEAKER_03 9:59

I didn't even think they made music videos anymore. It's a mix.

SPEAKER_02 10:04

Yep. Very cool. Like they're combining worlds, it's kind of cool.

SPEAKER_03 10:07

Alright, stateside. Okay.

SPEAKER_04 10:08

Mike Hammer. What do you have? You know, and trying to find a song that she hasn't kind of heard yet. You've exposed her to some good music already. You know, I would say, I could say the dead, but she's listened to a lot. I remember it wasn't that many years ago. She'd say, give me three dead songs I can pretend I know. And I go, You know them? I don't know the names. But I'd say, okay, blah blah blah blah and whatever.

SPEAKER_03 10:29

But were you trying to impress a boy? No. I mean, why else would you need to know three dead songs?

SPEAKER_02 10:35

I I think the the clothes were maybe trendy. The dancing bears, of course, and everything were trending. And I think it was a little bit more.

SPEAKER_03 10:41

So you wanted to have a little bit of I used to.

SPEAKER_02 10:43

I think I got called up by a couple know-it-all older men that said, You don't really know that. What are you wearing? Name me a song. Oh, gotcha, gotcha.

SPEAKER_04 10:50

I told you that because I would go out and I'd see somebody with the Rolling Stone shirt on and really young.

unknown 10:55

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 10:55

And I'm like, what's your favorite song? Yeah. Oh, I don't know. My mom bought me this shirt. I go, that's cool, and I get it because a lot of bands have really cool shirts out there, and people, what's a present to someone? But the the the tie-eyed, the bears, all all the insignia with the dead are cool apparel. So you put it on so she'd want to be able to. Yeah, I I know sugar banking. So now yeah, right. I know trucking, I know Uncle John's band, I know Bertha, and I know Tennessee Jet, but but but you're gonna give a song for your own. So I can't give that because I've found on those too much, but I want to go back to something that we kind of grew up with, and we talked about it last because Neil Young's comes a time. Okay. It was one of those anthems for Are you familiar with this song, Georgia?

SPEAKER_02 11:40

Guys, I'm gonna say something that's gonna be even worse. And I almost want to lie.

SPEAKER_04 11:44

You ate Neil Young.

SPEAKER_02 11:45

No, I wanted to lie.

SPEAKER_04 11:47

Yeah. Don't lie.

SPEAKER_02 11:49

And I think for all these years, since in first grade, when I had to do an American Sign Language to Neil Diamond's something or coming to America, I think I've thought Neil Young and Neil Diamond were the same person until today's years old.

SPEAKER_03 12:06

Really?

SPEAKER_02 12:06

Until I was today's years old.

SPEAKER_03 12:08

Well, that's awesome. Well, they're very different, two different dudes.

SPEAKER_02 12:11

Very much, because now I'm thinking of the I've seen the album covers and very different. So I don't know how I've been conflating.

SPEAKER_03 12:18

Well, now you you know what? I I'm gonna feel this the version that he likes is the version that's on the live Rust album. The version I like is from the album Harvest because the whole thing is cold. But you know what? That one song. We're only giving you two songs. I want to be sedated and comes a time. Alright?

SPEAKER_02 12:35

There's always next week, Dad.

SPEAKER_03 12:37

There's always next week. Oh yeah. Hopefully, people like this. I know I'm looking for a chance to listen to new music, but what's your other song?

SPEAKER_02 12:45

Well, for a second song, and maybe for these two, you should lift listen to them at different speeds? Environments, states of mind, states of mind, whatever you want to do.

SPEAKER_03 12:55

Like when you when you do like wine tasting, you eat a cracker as a palette cleanser in between. So you want a palette cleanser, you don't want to back to back these bad boys.

SPEAKER_02 13:03

Exactly, exactly. So for the second one, and this one might be I think a more a little more familiar to y'all's generation, or maybe anyone that still watches the Grammys, things like that. It's not as common for my generation, even though like maybe the clips and whatnot, but I still love it. I've done it since I was a child with both my parents, especially. And recently, one of the best new artists that were nominated was Olivia Dean, and one it is Olivia Dean, and she anyone who watches The Grammys would know exactly who I'm talking about once I see it, because the song almost sounds like it could have came out in the 80s and it came out in the 90s.

SPEAKER_03 13:47

I'm not familiar with Olivia.

SPEAKER_02 13:49

It sounds like something that could last through whatever time and stand up. But this song was Olivia Dean, Man I Need.

SPEAKER_03 13:59

Man I Need. Man I Need.

SPEAKER_02 14:01

Some of you guys, like I said, it might ring a bell because it's been more popular as of late and very much one that can get played.

unknown 14:10

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 14:11

You know, one of those like in the poles in the elevator. It's very good.

SPEAKER_03 14:14

And who sings Man I Need?

SPEAKER_02 14:16

Man I Need, Olivia Dean. It's really nice on the ears, so it's like I could imagine a grandma would like it, a little kid would like it.

SPEAKER_03 14:23

I look I very much look forward to listening to your suggestions, and we've really enjoyed having you on the bench with us. One quick thing.

SPEAKER_02 14:31

One quick thing, because my dad, because I'm sharing music, my dad also knows my favorite thing along with music, is sickenly living with a little bit of pop culture. I call us pop culture girly sometimes. You know, me and dad, I keep them updated. You actually, Carlos, secretly.

SPEAKER_03 14:48

Oh, I know, I know, I know all the teeth.

SPEAKER_02 14:52

Girly. And so I've always shared with my dad that with music, the relationships, the little drama behind it, a little controversial.

SPEAKER_04 15:01

Oh, I know the controversy.

SPEAKER_02 15:02

And so secret though, some of them, like with Olivia Dean, she's been so kind of quiet underground, but has had such a strong fun. Not a lot of people know her and Harry Styles were dating back.

SPEAKER_03 15:15

Really?

SPEAKER_02 15:16

And secretly might be getting playing back.

SPEAKER_03 15:20

All right. So are you familiar? Because this is going to be a future picture for you. Are you familiar with the band Fleetwood Mac? Do do you know some of the history?

SPEAKER_02 15:29

Isn't it like Stevie Wonder and Stevie Nick joking and Lindsay Buckingham? I'm messing up.

SPEAKER_03 15:35

So a lot of times, like on, you know, a lot of times I'll say kids, and you'll be like, yeah, 40 years ago. But kids, they'll do like disc tracks, right? Disc tracks. Okay. Stevie Nicks was so gangster. She wrote disc tracks about her ex and made him sing it.

unknown 15:52

I can't imagine.

SPEAKER_03 15:53

And stare on stage at concerts, stare at him, and he just kept looking at the city. And they would continue to tour when he basically basically called him the most disgustingly horrible human being ever to exist, and they got a play together as a bass.

SPEAKER_04 16:04

You raised into the background going, I'm watching this playoff. But the turnstiles are turn home and selling records.

SPEAKER_03 16:11

Oh, they sold more. I mean, they sold a ton of records, but it was like this. The son of the woman who loved you, right?

SPEAKER_04 16:17

Yeah, the son of the woman who loved you. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 16:19

But yeah, no, I you know, I I love Pam. Her big thing is 90 Day. So we watch 90 Day and then married at first sight. And then she watches Bachelor, but I don't, but she gives me all of the stuff, right? You know, and then I hear about it. A lot of drama going on there. And so, yeah, oh yeah, massive drama. So I, you know, I kind of try to keep up, but it's like a lot of the art I wouldn't know about I didn't know Olivia Dean existed. So therefore, who she dated I didn't know, but I like the hairy kid, he's alright.

SPEAKER_02 16:48

Oh, he's got a beautiful voice, and they're beautiful looking people, not that it matters, but you know what's funny?

SPEAKER_04 16:53

I was you know, doing the dead and why I didn't bring up the dead because last September my mom passed on. And and toward the end, we put music on for her because the TV, yeah, and I put a lot of dead on, and she liked that hippie fall asleep. Play that hippie music some more, and it just seemed like Ripple came on all the time. And I know the morning after the the deed, whatever, there was and she was a huge Elvis fan.

SPEAKER_03 17:18

Oh yeah, oh yeah. I remember at my dad's funeral, she was there, and we got a picture of my mom and your mom together, and and my mom was admiring the hell out of your mom's Elvis purse.

SPEAKER_04 17:29

Yes, yes, and the Elvis Matt, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 17:32

So she got that at his home.

SPEAKER_04 17:34

Two Elvis songs came on as I was sitting there, and then Ripple came on. Yeah, and so and we played that song a lot for it. And the thoughts behind it. The meaning sinks in. And then when we played a lot, when Stern Simpson played it, the dad got introducted into the Rock Row Hall of Fame, and then obviously the passing of Bobby Weir here, and and Stern's coming in concert, but go ahead.

SPEAKER_03 17:57

Not to continue to go down a negative trait, but just you know, we kind of started off this whole series of episodes with the concept that music, how important and transformational it is. And you know, I know at my mom's funeral we played Elvis's version of Amazing Grace. Yeah, oh yeah, and you know, I mean, to me, your brother Marty's funeral probably used music better than I've seen it a lot. Honestly, when I hear he ain't heavy, he's my brother, I just start tearing up, and you know, and and I think I take a picture of my when it's on my thing and I send it to you because it was so powerful, man. It was so powerful. It was that's what helped me cope through it.

SPEAKER_04 18:33

Yeah, try to put music to it wish you were here.

SPEAKER_02 18:35

He we did he ain't heavy, we did Rise Up by Andre Day and What What a Wonderful World.

SPEAKER_04 18:42

And then we did a lot of and I got it. I got the soundtrack.

SPEAKER_03 18:45

I remember putting together and it played a loop through there, and that was I mean, it was the funeral thing to happen, but for me, and it wasn't a blood revelative, it was heartbreakingly, I mean, it was savage on the heart, yeah. But the music, as devastated as we all were, helped turn it into a celebration of his life. It's funny.

SPEAKER_04 19:03

I got this good friend who just kind of just too blatantly honest, like the people say it not meanly, but say so. I was we had a bike, a psych motorcycle ride, and and we came to a stop, and he and everybody's my brother's playing. Yeah, and I turned off the light and goes, Why do you want to that song? That's stupid. I go, Well, I played it for my brother at his funeral. And his he couldn't I got his he had both his feet, his knees, all like I want to dig this hole and crawl in. And I'm like going, and I go, Well, you didn't know. Uh yeah, it it means different uh things, but yeah, that I appreciate you bringing that up because that they bring up, yeah, how music.

SPEAKER_03 19:45

It's powerful, it's it's very powerful. And then to me, now that you know, I I you know obviously you selected it because it had meaning for you and your brother, but now that song is forever in my mind attached to that moment.

SPEAKER_04 19:58

Remember earlier today when we were doing this, and I showed you the time of the clock.

SPEAKER_03 20:02

Yes, 11-11. 11-11.

SPEAKER_04 20:03

Marty's favorite number was 11. That was his number. Yeah, and it's weird, call it a coincidence or something. We see that in time, yeah. And granted, it's yeah, two times a day, every day. Yeah, but when you see it too often, and then there's some biblical references to it, and then I just played it until last one, but it comes up, and and those are the things numbers, music, it's just that's great.

SPEAKER_03 20:30

Well, Georgia Hammer, I have to tell you, I I I convinced you to do a segment and it's turned into a show, but we can cut at any point. But I do want to ask you a question, and if you are uncomfortable with it at any point, but I really want to ask because I don't know. All right. I ask these questions because I don't know and I want to know. So I've seen this young lady, Billie Eilish, okay? I've never listened to her music. I'm a big fan of the TV show Survivor. So she has inserted herself in the show as a big fan, super fan, and whatever. But I look at that girl and she always looks stoned. Now, your dad mentioned that he always had bad allergies in the summer, and people would accuse him of being stoned. I think part of the time when they made that accusation, they were right. But regardless, like, is Billy is Billy Eilish like another Snoop Dogg, or as anybody I can't be the first person that's asked that question.

SPEAKER_02 21:19

You know, I have no idea I'd almost say more her brother has gives that look to me than her, but herself, but it could be. She's from California, musicians. Well, she's never left there. You had me at California, I will say you're bringing up something I think I should have should have put more thought into because I I I always claim to be it early on the Billie Eilish train back when she first dropped ocean or released the song Oceanize on SoundCloud.

SPEAKER_04 21:47

Well, how would you know? He just dropped a question on you, so no more homework.

SPEAKER_02 21:50

So now I'm thinking about it because it's probably pretty easy to tell because she's got bright blue eyes, you know.

SPEAKER_03 21:56

I wonder if she's just got like bags. I mean, she Actually, I think is one of those people that has like kind of bug eyes a little bit, so maybe that's what I'm looking at. But look at it, take it as as extra as extra credit. I'll keep an eye on it because I kind of maybe yeah, know what you're saying, but let me so we've talked a little bit about your father's influence, the kind of things that he listened to, which I would imagine you heard growing up. All about your mom. Your mom is a big music fan too. What what what musical styles did you pick up from her?

SPEAKER_02 22:26

I was extremely lucky with having parents who had both really good tastes in music, and also just in general, kind of spoiled like spoiled us as kids, brought us to concerts when we were probably way too young and to at least you know spend that much money on them, but it was amazing. I'll never forget my first John Mayer concert when I think I was seven years old. And overall, my mom, I just I think a lot of times of music growing up in her Jeep, playing music, sitting there listening to a lot of John Mayer, a lot of James Blunt, a lot, and then as well as Dave Matthews? Yeah, yeah. For sure. A lot of just music too that came from my parents working slash my grandparents in growing working in my grandparents' bar growing up. The rendezvous the rendezvous in Somerset, Wisconsin, which always had music on. It was really intrigual integral to my family. And in general, that bar though at the time, it was kind of a rock scene that we always made jokes that by the time me and my brothers had come along, we learned listened to a lot of nickelback in that bar and things like that.

SPEAKER_03 23:42

I'm sorry, but nickelback, I don't get the hate. Okay. I get the hate for Creed, because I hate Creed too, but I don't get the hate for Nickelback because I'm sorry, Rockstar is a great pop song.

SPEAKER_02 23:52

It's a great, you know, it's a great song. I don't get the hate either, but you know, the amount of times you can hear, I don't know.

SPEAKER_03 24:00

Yes, yes. It's uh they kind of are a bit of a one johnny one note, but a lot of bands are, you know.

SPEAKER_04 24:07

It's not the band, it's the the the radio stations. Yeah, that's true.

SPEAKER_03 24:10

That's true. And just hearing it from the street. And then you gotta wait and give it some years to rest. Yeah, and then you're gonna I remember here an interview with a radio guy was in the business, and it was basically okay, let me tell you what you're hearing on the radio. It's like it's like new hit, old hit, deep old hit, new hit, old. I mean, it was basic, it's a formula that and I don't know, and streaming doesn't do that because it's all poll. It's what you select, not what they push to you.

SPEAKER_02 24:36

And and I'll say one a story more for another time. However, uh my my love for music really took. I first had my own artist that I became obsessed with back, and I remember like I remember it so vividly, and I think that ties to how sensory memory slash music play into how deep her memory is. Time and place is second first and second grade, Katy Perry. Oh yeah, Teenage Dream came out. I heard it on the radio, as well as some of her music even before then. I was all that I became so obsessed and couldn't have gotten luckier. Two years later, I find myself meeting Katy Perry. I went up on stage at her concert, was supposed to be dancing to Whitney Houston, I want to dance with somebody, and froze stiff. Still mad that none of my family got it on camera, even though because that would have been hilarious.

SPEAKER_03 25:36

But it'll never leave. How'd you get up there?

SPEAKER_02 25:39

It's a cool story though, because yeah, my my cousin's a stylist, or what was a stylist out in LA and New York, and worked with her a bit, was good friends with her, and I just I remember as a kid, it made that obsession go from a hundred to a thousand. And I was watching music videos 20 minutes a day of hers.

SPEAKER_03 26:01

I mean, Katy Perry, and I was watching Glee at the time, or shortly after, and so you know, Glee would not exist for Katy Perry. You know, because I mean that was that was hired to Carrie Perry. He's one of the girlies, but I will say there's certain elements of Katy Perry that I don't like, but man, she's got pipes. She's like Christina Aguilera's like going, eh, not my music, but damn, child, where does that come from?

SPEAKER_02 26:25

Sometimes it seems like we're losing the plot. However, she has, I believe, if I'm I don't believe I'm mistaken saying this, you know, she her teenage dream album, yeah, I think it has the most number one songs on a single album of all time.

SPEAKER_03 26:45

Because there were firework while that was there.

SPEAKER_04 26:50

In Europe, in uh uh uh Amsterdam and Germany for three weeks for work, yeah, and I kissed a girl just came out.

SPEAKER_03 26:57

Oh and it was played every moment of every day, and uh you know, she's lucky actually. That very well could have become a novelty song, and that would have been it with her career. Because I mean that, you know, because that kind of was in that almost like a novelty song, you know. I mean, it it shows that she has talent and good songs that she was able to recover from its wrong word because it's a massive hit, but also it's kind of like a fine.

SPEAKER_02 27:23

My obsession led me to find, you know, she was a Christian artist, right? Oh, yeah, yeah. And that being her first song, her dad is a pastor.

SPEAKER_04 27:30

She almost girl that wrote I kissed a girl. Yeah. But no.

SPEAKER_03 27:35

That's what another story is true, but it's another story. You know what? If if you could hear audible eye rolls, you would have just heard one there. But Georgia, I didn't really intentionally trick you. I did intend on recording just a segment with you, but we really loved having you on the podcast. And I promise when when we go over the homework next week, if you want to join us for the whole, I'm a feeling we're gonna get feedback saying, Yeah, now the show's finally good. Have her back, but we'll have you back to discuss the songs and we'll give a fair listen to your songs and you give a listen to ours.

SPEAKER_04 28:08

What were those songs that the guy talked about a thing with the plate? No, what were the songs named so everybody can remember?

SPEAKER_03 28:14

Okay, they want to. I was in, you know, I was gonna put links in the show notes for everybody, but I got I Wanna Be Sedated by the Ramones. You've got There Comes a Time by Neil Young, but you want the live version from Rust Never Sleeps, right? Live Rust, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 28:28

Stateside by Zara Larson, or plus Zara Larson, I should say.

SPEAKER_03 28:33

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 28:34

And then Olivia Dean's Man I Need.

SPEAKER_03 28:37

I will send you make sure I've got the right song links before I publish it. But we really enjoyed having you here on the bench with us, Georgia. It's been quite an interesting hearing your perspective.

SPEAKER_04 28:51

Hearing your perspective.

SPEAKER_02 28:52

Oh my gosh, that's oh my gosh, my park bench perspective. Is that it? Yes, exactly. Oh my gosh. It's gonna be a nice bench, isn't it? No, it's it's I'm very grateful for you guys to have me. I'm probably gonna be deathly afraid to hear my voice back on this.

SPEAKER_03 29:08

I think that's a you know, you know, we we will we will share all of the amazing things. I don't know if you will, but we'll get over it.

SPEAKER_02 29:15

Okay, if it comes off too high pitched, just maybe tone it down a bit, Carlos.

SPEAKER_03 29:19

You know what? Being the experienced sound engineer through five episodes, yep, I will pop, I will, I will apply that magic touch to it. But roll it with hit play.

SPEAKER_01 29:30

With that said, I think Carlos and Hammer and Georgia Watching all the world go by now, underneath the hazy sky now. Got my ticket for the long ride. Yeah, from my parts, bench.