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SPEAKER_01Episode number three. We are back, and right off the hop, I just want to thank every single one of you who have listened to not only episode one, but also episode number two. And I am going to right off the hop apologize. I know the audio on episode number two wasn't that clear, more specifically, more specifically on my microphone, but give me a break. I'm working out all the tweaks, all the twerks, everything that needs to be done. So hopefully this episode will be a lot better. And I do hope you notice that we rushed uploading the first two episodes so we don't fall back behind, but moving forward, every episode will be every week. And if there's for some reason, if there's a reason why we can't do an episode, I'll make sure we post something or let you guys all know. And with saying that, Dad, it's about time, we finally have a way that you can get a hold of us. All right. So if there's an opinion or if there's a statement that you're totally against, or there's something that you want us to talk about, you can contact us at thefamybusiness.chat at gmail.com. It's thefamybusiness.chat at gmail.com. So now you have to be prepared because this is when people actually start criticizing our work.
SPEAKER_00Well, I criticism is part of the uh part of the natural selection of getting getting better at what you do. Sure.
SPEAKER_01So I'm really I'm really looking forward to hear, or at least to read, what you guys have to say. Uh, and I will post obviously the the email address down at the bottom. Um, we're still working towards doing some stuff on social media, but for now, that is the way to get a hold of us. Like I said, it will be down on the bottom of the page, but just in case you forgot you forget, it is thefamylbusiness.chat at gmail.com. And no, it is not.dot. It is literally the period on the uh on your keyboard. So right away, I just want to I was scrolling through the list of what should we talk about, what what what's something that will intrigue uh the audience, but I just wanted before we get into our deep, deep conversations, uh, this episode, there is something that popped up on my screen, which actually only happened an hour ago. Uh, we are recorded on Monday, March 30th. And the article reads Palestinians convicted of deadly attacks will face a death penalty under the new Israeli law. Okay, so just today, the law passed the third and final reading in the, and I'm gonna I'm gonna assume this is the Israeli parliament, the Nasset. Oh, Knesset. Knesset, okay, the Knesset, by 62 votes to 48. And uh Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, Netanyahu, Netanyahu, you mean Yahu, alright, uh, he did vote in the favor. So basically, and I'm gonna get your opinion on this, this bill stipulates that any Palestinian convicted in Israeli military courts of carrying out deadly attacks that deemed to be considered acts of terrorism, okay, would be executed automatically within 90 days. Well, you said the military court. Military court. Not civilian. Uh, according to this, this the article just is military court.
SPEAKER_00Okay, because uh military court, court martials, and all that sort of thing are much different than civilian. So uh the burden of proof is not that uh that strenuous there. So there's a there's a lot to dissect there. Um if they're convicted of terrorism, I you know, I I don't see the problem with that. I mean, if they're uh, you know, we we should have that here. I mean, anybody convicted of you know harming a child, uh you know, in any way, uh, yeah. Uh you know, send the bullet to their family two months later to pay for it. Right. I mean, there's no there's no mercy for that sort of thing.
SPEAKER_01So the thing and it's funny because we always whenever you and I talk about things, we always say, oh well, you know, any conversation can lead to a tangent of many other different minor conversations within the main conversation. Sure. And the thing that this conversation makes me think of, and you kind of just stole it from me, was the idea of capital punishment. All right. Right? Because, you know, to me, to me, and I'm not gonna get into the whole biblical aspect or or whatever, but I am a firm believer in capital punishment. Okay, um do I think that there are certain crimes that are a lot worse than other crimes? Yeah, I do. I really do, because somebody who goes and you know, gets drunk, gets into a car, crashes into a building, okay, doesn't kill anybody, that's still a crime. Right. Uh you can, you know, murder somebody, okay, let's say you murder a 40-year-old.
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SPEAKER_01Premeditated, though. Sure, premeditated. Okay. But to me, and you said this, when there are anything that involved children, right? Taking the life away of a young, innocent child. And I'm talking about when I say child, I'm talking about, you know. 18 and under. I was gonna say 16, but let's say 18 and under just for being quote unquote legal sakes. I I I this is gonna sound very unchristian-like, but I do not believe in second chances. Well, Christian has nothing to do with it. Eye for an eye. Well, well, yeah, uh Well, because people people I don't know. The reason why I say that is because the number one argument that I've had with other Christians in terms of capital punishment is A, who are we to take someone's life? All right, I'll give you. And B we refuse even a murderer's chance, okay, to repent and accept Christ.
SPEAKER_00They'll always have that chance because uh you get convicted in let's say you can get convicted in March. You're not dead in April. I mean, there's still a little bit of time. Uh, but keep in mind the state, the government, has to keep law in order. Now I I I was uh I was saying this to one guy, uh, this was one of my daughters, this guy was after her, and uh and I told him, I said, listen to me carefully. At the time, I think I was like 40 years old, and I said, Listen, I will kill you, and I'll be out in 10 years. And it's and I'll I'll lose 10 years. You're gonna be in the ground, I'm gonna lose 10 years and move on with my life. If you if you if you even look at my daughter, that and I he goes, Well, are you threatening me? I said, No, I'm promising you.
SPEAKER_01If I'm not mistaken, wasn't this in church too when you said this?
SPEAKER_00You know, I know exactly what you're talking about. Yeah, so you you don't you don't mess with a man's daughter. Simple as that. And I and I kept telling my my sons, I say, listen, if you if you if you do something stupid with a girl and their father comes after you, I'm I can't do a darn thing about it. I have to sit back and let the chips fall where they might.
SPEAKER_01Right, but if capital punishment was law here in in Canada, then I couldn't say those things. I'd be scared. 100% because yeah, okay, you you you take revenge for your daughter or whatever, and you go and murder the man, right? Then you're done.
SPEAKER_00But but that's the flip side. That's why there's degrees of murder. Now, if I plan a murder, that's one thing. Let's let's be let's be straight. Uh uh, let's be uh clear. Uh if I were to uh you know just well, there are such things as accidental murders.
SPEAKER_01Well, or I guess accidental what is it? Well, what is it?
SPEAKER_00The difference between like manslaughter and there's different categories, that's right. But if it's premeditated, or or you you take a life of a child, uh you know, dude, I I I don't know. I don't have much to say. Right. You shouldn't use it. This shouldn't even be uh uh controvers controversial.
SPEAKER_01No, to me, see, and then this is where I'm gonna contradict myself. Listen, I've never served time in prison, so I don't know. But from the stories you hear and from the interviews and articles, and even actually, you know what, we do know a few people close to us who have spent time, child molesters. When they get in prison and the other inmates find out that they're a child molester, part of me actually likes the fact that they'll stay in prison because let's just say that big ol' big old Bubba is gonna make that guy remember what he did to those children. You know, and to me, that is more harmful than the death penalty. You have to hear take a needle and go to sleep for it. Yeah, exactly. So, but no, but uh to me, I don't like I said, I'm not trying to bring in and talk about or argue capital punishment, but I think it's good what Israel passed. I mean, because act of act of terrorism, you have to assume will be loss of Israeli lives. Sure. That's you would just assume that, right? Right. So and then because it's funny, not funny, but in this article that I'm reading on the BBC, um, it is saying that technically, in theory, Jewish Israelis could technically also be executed under the law, that same law. Okay. But in practice, it kind of doesn't make sense because the death penalty could only be carried out when the intention was to negate the existence of the state of Israel.
SPEAKER_00Well, that would be the whole point of a terrorist attack.
SPEAKER_01Right. So, and how many, how many Jewish Israelis are actually going to try to try to do that? Well, I I hope none. That's that's why they're saying, but they did throw that in the article, which I found very, very interesting. And of course, at the end of the article, it reads, Israel has only executed two people in the history of the nation. One of them, well it doesn't say who the second one was, but one of them was uh actually what let me see if you know this. It was one of the infamous Nazi officials. Oh, um Hess? Adolf Hess? First name is Adolf. Eichmann, yeah, right. And they're saying that obviously Eichmann was one of the key perpetrators of uh the Holocaust.
SPEAKER_00Well, let's let's just to our audience, I I wasn't around during World War II, so just making that clear. Okay. Um that that that is interesting. But so so you're saying since 1948, when they became a nation, they've only executed two two people. According to this article, yeah. Wow. I'm yeah. See, I would have, if that was a uh uh a trivia question, I would have lost. Right. I'd figure at least, at least 20, maybe or something. Because uh Israel has been uh they've been bombarded from all sides.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, but if you ask the left, they'll say that they've been executing thousands over the past year.
SPEAKER_00Okay, yeah.
SPEAKER_01Uh some other some other quick, just quick news news stuff that came out, uh, not that important to us, but you know, I guess being Canadian, uh I gotta give her a shout out. Um Celine Dion has officially announced a comeback show in Paris. Okay. So after all, because uh I know you you and mom watched the uh documentary on Netflix, if I'm not mistaken.
SPEAKER_00Uh I'll tell you, that was very eye-opening. Um she was very vulnerable, uh, Celine. Yeah. And I'll tell you, there was one part uh I I tried to I I tried to keep a dry eye.
SPEAKER_01Well, apparently that was it's probably the part you're talking about, but they say no matter how tough you are, not saying men don't cry, don't feminists don't come at me, but they're saying that no matter how hard heart you are, hard-heartened you are, right, you will cry if you watch that documentary. It was tough. But it's saying but it's saying that after all her sicknesses, all her diagnosis, everything she's gone through, um, she's officially able to do a show. God bless. So I thought I thought I would throw that in there. And another another article, which I see both sides, but it's kind of one of those, like, oh come on, like, relax. So the um Air Canada CEO, uh Michael Russo, uh looks like he's going to resign after so he at long story short, he did a he did a uh condolence video for the that that plane crash or whatever. Okay. And he only did it in English, not in French. Oh, give it a rest. So people are going after him saying that Air Canada represents both English and French. He should have done it in both, and because he only did it in English, people went after him, and it looks like he is go has no choice, but and he's gonna he's gonna end up stepping down.
SPEAKER_00And here, this is gonna get a lot of emails and a lot of hate, but I'll tell you this, and this is what I believe. Not one French person probably protested. It's all the English Karens that are freaking out.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, it's probably not even the Canadians who are freaking out either. Most likely. Oh, and I am reading so it is confirmed. Uh he did officially retire. So it's not like he was thinking about it. He officially did. Um and he did later apologize. Uh, he just says he wasn't able uh to express himself adequately in French. Oh, jeez. Uh, despite taking lessons over the past few years.
SPEAKER_00But but see, again, that's nitpicking. That's uh I I I I find I find that hard to believe. Now, if he if he came out and said, you know, I'm not gonna say it in French because I don't like French people. Or okay, now now you're just being an idiot. But because he didn't say it in French, like, like, well, put it this way. I don't know his track record. I don't know. Was he at least a decent CEO? Was he at least good at his job?
SPEAKER_01I mean, did you hear about it on the news a lot? Not really. I just affirmed it. So that's probably a good thing, wouldn't it be? The way society is today. It's what it's like that no news is good news kind of thing. Yeah, I see. Like usually you only hear about these executives or the CEOs when there's something wrong. Right. Right? So to me, I mean I I didn't know Michael Russo, if that's even how you pronounce it, right? If if he was good or bad, but the fact that this is his first time that he's really been in the news that I'm aware of, right? To me, that's more, yeah, that's more than enough to um but you know what?
SPEAKER_00Let me backtrack just a little bit. Uh, I know because we we started uh talking about the Air Canada, but one thing I wanted to bring up uh with the Palestinians and the uh Israeli uh conflict or whatever's going on, and all these Karens that are uh you know freaking out, and the the you know the the gays for Palestine and all all these these protests. I was coming back from Ottawa one uh one day and I stopped in the city of uh Belleville. Okay and uh I I have I have a um a weakness and I I I gotta get treatment for it, but I have a weakness for shawarma. So I stopped uh in Bellville to grab a shawarma and then to get some fuel, and then there was a protest. And you know, lack of better judgment, I I got out of my car and I and I walked over to them and wanted to know what exactly what are they protesting? And again, I I I was looking for the white kids, not not not the uh the palace, like the uh Arabic looking or the non-Canadian looking, I'll say it this way. And they're yelling and screaming from the river to the sea and this and that. And I said, Can you you know what? Out of just sheer morbid curiosity, what river are you talking about? They had no idea. Guaranteed sea, do you mean? They have no idea. So they said, Well, you know, I said, Oh, the Nile River. Obviously, it's not the Nile River, right? But I said, Oh, it's the Nile River to the Red Sea. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's right, that's right. So, buddy, you what are you protesting? You're you're just here because you have nothing better to do. Oh, no, no, Palestinians, they have to rise. And and I said, buddy, you don't even you know what? Go home, take a look at the map, and then you're gonna know what river, and then you're gonna know what sea. So this uh what what I do remember now this was going back into the early 90s. Uh, there was this guy named Yasser Arafat. Now, a lot of people my age will remember him. The the the newbies don't know who that is, but he would uh he would negotiate, he was the Palestinian, quote unquote. I have my hands in the air with those quote quotation marks. He was the Palestinian leader, and I believe it was in 1995, they had a deal. Uh they gave Israel gave them 95% of everything that they were looking for. 95 it and they rejected it. Yeah, and one Israeli uh commentator said, listen, you can't negotiate with people that want you dead. And that, you know, look, I'm not gonna take Israel's, I'm not gonna take any anybody's side because I'm in Canada. I we we have enough problems of our own. But when you're dealing with somebody who wants you dead, never mind not wanting you to have a country. But they they literally want everybody from the Jordan River to be swept into this the Mediterranean Sea. That that's the only thing that will keep them happy. How do you negotiate with that?
SPEAKER_01You can't, you can't, right?
SPEAKER_00So it's a lost cause either way, and over over how many years? Uh, I've even uh seen the news clippings. Bill Clinton in '95 tried to do it. They even killed uh uh an Israeli leader because he gave them too much. So both sides are uh are tough, but the Palestinians want every Jewish person dead. That's that's their uh that's their cause. Yeah. So how do you get out of that? Obviously they need smarter minds than us, but uh but it's not uh it it's not a good it's not a good situation. Right. Anyway, that's I wanted to include that.
SPEAKER_01And the finally the last quick news thing I want to bring up is uh doesn't say the actual date, but in a few days, uh NASA is planning to launch the Artemis 2 mission, which they are gonna send four astronauts uh back to the moon. Okay. So uh it's taking NASA's Artemis program has taken years of work, involved thousands of people. And check this out, this is what I want to bring it up. It's just to me, this is crazy, and it is estimated to have cost north of 93 billion dollars to date to send four people up to the moon. Now, listen, I I I'm I'm not we're gonna keep this very short. I do not believe back in the day, uh I believe it was the Apollo mission, if I'm not mistaken. Apollo 11 in 1969. They did not touch down on the moon. I I do not believe it.
SPEAKER_00Put it this way. Oh, sorry. No, no, go ahead, go ahead, go ahead. I'm just gonna say, I do not believe it. This is the way I look at it. I'm not an astronaut, I'm not a physicist, I'm just Joe Schmoe that works for a living and You know, Canadian citizen. So I don't all I know is this. Okay. I was watching uh uh I believe it was a news uh article about a scientist who came up with some sort of uh again, I'm saying this wrong, but it was a Kevlar type of Kevlar suit, and his words, in his words, we can now, with this suit, we can now get through the Van Allen belt. So one reporter said, well, then how did you do it in '69? Instead of uh, you know, a BS response, they cut the feed. Right. Let that sink in. Right. So I mean, you don't have to be a rogue scholar. And uh I I simply don't I don't believe that they went because I don't think they can get out of our atmosphere. Because uh uh because it says that God created the firmament. Things that uh uh now because people have video cameras, they have uh now the internet is really opening a lot of eyes. They will have uh like like rockets and cameras attached to the rocket going straight up, and it gets to a point where it hits something and it falls back.
SPEAKER_01Right.
SPEAKER_00What in the sixth letter of the alphabet are they hitting? I don't know.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. Well, the Apollo mission, right? We can you don't have to be a conspiracy theorist to believe this, but the whole point was basically to be in competition with the Soviets, to be the first ones to get there. So you ask me, well, why did they spend 93 billion dollars to do it again this time? And the reason they spent so much time, money, and resources on this mission is they are claiming, well, first of all, they're in competition with China. All right. Because China, uh, they've came out and said that they will have humans uh living on the moon by 2030. All right. Okay, and the American scientists believe that there are a whole bunch of earth elements on the moon, right? Like uh, I'm reading here, what do they have here? I saw it. Um iron, a lot of the minerals, and they're saying that um there's a lot of water that's trapped inside the minerals, and there's a map, there's uh tons and tons of amounts of water at the poles in the moon. So they're saying if they're able to get water sources on the moon like that, then they could easily have humans living on the moon at one point.
SPEAKER_00Uh there's only one problem, it's called oxygen. Humans need oxygen. That's why this anything that I hear from NASA, and again, this is just me, so you know, you know, government, don't come arrest me. I personally believe that NASA is one big money laundering croc of uh cooking. Yeah, it's uh it it's all baloney.
SPEAKER_01Well, they're saying that if it if there is a a vital source of water, drinking water on the moon, they can actually also split the water into hydrogen and oxygen to provide the air. Okay, yeah. So they say the only thing I will say about this whole thing is that there's anybody that I would actually trust to do something like this, or at least attempt to do it, is Elon. Yeah, yeah, that I agree. You know, and Elon's already kind of playing with the idea, he believes that he wants human form up on the moon.
SPEAKER_00Well, Elon is a very big uh Mars guy. Or is it Mars? I'm thinking of Mars. Mars, that's right. Now keep in mind, what you have to do is look at it from the outside looking in. What is Elon involved in? Tesla, the electric car, fully electric. Then he has um they have boring machines. He's invested heavily into boring machines and humanoid robots. So why is he doing that? Because number one, the first major mission to Mars, humans can't go. It takes I again, I don't know the actual numbers, but it takes something like six months to get there. Humans uh can't be in in a confined space too long. Okay, we'll go we'll go crazy. That's the way we're built. Now, they land on Mars. Now they have boring machines, they have electric cars, they have electric humanoids that don't need oxygen. Don't need so that's why he's doing that so they can start building something. Uh again, this is all theoretically, but makes sense. Yeah. And don't forget AI has a big factor in this too. Well, that's why anytime I see a YouTube video, I'm very skeptical.
SPEAKER_01Talking about AI, we're gonna move on anyways, but uh I ended up finally watching that movie um with uh oh, what's his name? He's the Gardens of the Galaxy guy, the main character. Um Christian guy? Yeah. What's uh Gardens of the Galaxy His name is on the tip of my tongue? Oh, I'm losing my mind here. Anyway, so he's in that new movie. Um it's called Mercy. Okay. And it's basically, I'm not gonna ruin it, but I highly recommend it. It's how in LA there was so much crime, so they created this mercy court. All right. And basically, if you commit a crime, especially a murder, you get put into you get put into this mercy court, and you have an hour and a half to prove your innocence, and you have access to every single camera, every single whatever it is, you have access to it. So I I highly recommend it's called mercy. Yeah. Alright. All right, well, let's move on. Um, but like I said, I watch it. I highly recommend it. It's um it's not bad. Uh once again, as we move on, if just in case you forget, I'm gonna make sure this is instilled in your guys all in all your heads. Uh thefamily business.chat at gmail.com. Anything we say, anything you want us to talk about, please feel free, reach out. Uh and uh it can be anonymous if you want, or if you say, hey, don't say my name, but I want you to talk about this. I will make sure that we we take care of that. So I teased it last episode, and we're gonna get into it. I was thinking of how do we talk about this? It's just such a broad conversation to have, and I really did not know how to start it. So I'm hoping you can piggyback me on this. Ice. And I'm not talking about coal that you put the stuff that you put in your drinks, I'm talking about the ice raids, the government. What's been going on? It seems like it's been going on for a while, but what's been going on over the past year with all with the border patrols, with the illegal immigrants, and all that ice. So I'm just gonna say one thing to you, and I want you just to say what's on your mind. Okay, what is your opinion on the ice raids?
SPEAKER_00Well, that what they're doing is they're enforcing the law. What a concept. I I I mean, I I don't understand what the problem is. Uh people are upset that they are in in enforcing I I'm sorry, I'll say this slower, but they are enforcing the law. You come into a you break into somebody's home, he has the right to shoot you. You you come into somebody's country, they put it this way if an American or a Canadian flee into Mexico, they'll kick you out if you don't get there legally. Right. But yet, these guys are coming in and they are they are criminal. If they are in um in the United States illegally, they are well, no, no, no, they're not criminals, they're undocumented. No, they're criminals. They're criminals. At the end of the day, you're breaking the law. You broke the law, and you get these people. Now, mind you, they're saying, well, ICE is very um uh aggressive and all that. Well, you know what? Here, here, I'm trying to arrest this guy, and I got a bunch of Karen's and uh you know, protesting in you know, one that had a uh Honda pilot, she tried to run the guy over, and he's defending himself, and he's the criminal, right? Like, come on, guys. Like, I I I really when I see these news uh stories about you know how brutal ICE is, I don't think they're brutal enough. Yeah, you're an American citizen. You get like you get involved in their raids, or you get involved trying to block them doing their job, you know, automatically a year in prison. I mean you're you're is that not considered treason to a certain point?
SPEAKER_01Treason uh you can make the argument, but it's definitely uh obstruction of justice.
SPEAKER_00And that's enough to have you thrown in jail. You know, you get pulled over by by a cop, and uh I'm driving by and I see that you got pulled over, and I uh and I park in front of you and I get out of my uh car and I go to the officer. Why are you giving them a ticket? What's your pro you know what? Uh there's gonna be handcuffs on me. Right. Why? Because I'm I'm intruding on something that's clearly none of my business, and and I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna be in trouble. You know, uh I had I had this uh case one time. Uh this guy was being very, this was on Highway 10 north of just in the Toronto area, and the guy was very aggressive, very aggressive uh in his driving and this and that, and you know, he's flipping people off and all that stuff. And he he was a madman. And about uh five kilometers down the road, he got he got pulled over, and I just couldn't resist. I was a little younger, maybe dumber, but I pulled over and I just got out of my car, and I I it was it was a little bit of a distance, and I pointed at him because I mean he he was he was very aggressive towards me, and I just said, Good for you, you deserve it. And the cop like the cop sighed, he goes, sir, get back in your car. Yeah, I said, All right, I just I'm just glad you busted him. He goes, All right, I'm working on it, and and I left. So, but that that's enough to get you arrested. You cannot impede the police.
SPEAKER_01And I see, but that's the thing that that's the thing that really gets me. You hear these stories about oh, they're taking um they're taking the the parents away from the kids and this and that. Like, yeah, but you came here at the end of the day, you came here illegally. That in itself is a crime, right? Like crossing the border, uh I'm sorry, this is not America is not a sanctuary um country country. Okay, and now mind you, this is a big stereotype, but statistics back it up. 85% of all the illegals that are coming over are criminals. And they're committing crime here. And not only that, they're burning the American flag and they want their they want to bring their ways in here. Then go back to your own country. What if your country is that much better than America? America is that bad, then why are you here? Okay, and there's that the one specific story that really sticks out to me. There was this uh teacher. Uh he was actually on the he was a superintendent at a school board. I believe I'll have to get fact-checked on this. I believe it might have been in Ohio, and ICE came and they arrested him. And these uh Karen's liberals, whatever are freaking out. Oh, he's been here for 30 years and this and that. Yeah, but he's still illegal.
SPEAKER_00Didn't matter how many years.
SPEAKER_01It doesn't matter how many years. You're still in this country illegally. You broke the law. It's no difference. I'm not saying the degree, but in terms of breaking the law, there's no difference between stealing, between murder. If you break a law, you break a law. End of story. Okay, I'm not saying degree of law, but just the law being broken in general. Right. So by Trump implementing the ICE program, sending all these all these agents out to go out and find all these criminals, to find all these illegals, because they are illegal. Well, they're not criminals. They're not undocumented. But at the end of the day, if you're here illegally, you are considered a criminal. And that is the biggest argument that the left shows is that they don't want to call them criminals. But the law is the law. The best example of this, I hate the show. This is the only time I'll ever say this. Because I'm I just it's not who I am. I don't hate women. But these women I hate. Oh, jeez. Okay? Like if I saw any of them on the side of the road that needed a tire fixed, I would drive by. As a matter of fact, I might even, you know, laugh as I as I as I as I as I drive by. It's the ladies on the view. Okay. So they had Arnold Schwarzenegger on. Okay? Okay. Who every if you know your history with Arnold and Trump, they've been back and forth, back and forth, like each other, hate each other, like each other, hate each other. Apparently, right now they're on, they're they're they're rocky. Their relationship is a bit rocky. They're interviewing him, and they were talking about ice. They're talking about all these people and this and that. And they were, they asked Arnold flat out, Arnold, how would you feel if Trump came and uh arrested your family when you were a kid? And he's like that he wouldn't. He's like, oh no, but you guys are here or whatever. He's like, ah, but my parents came here legally, they went through the process. So he said, that is not a fear of mine. And if you've done if you're if you've done things the proper way through the letter of the law, then you're not gonna get supported.
SPEAKER_00Why why are you so s what why why are you so scared? Well, Arnold was 16 when he came to America, and and he and I saw that interview, and he specifically told them, listen, when we arrived, we're we were guests. Yeah, we we we had to behave a certain way. We were guests in a country. We didn't break the law, we were respectful to the rules and regulations and everything because we love this country. Yeah, and they didn't want to hear any of that.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, but that's the problem. I love how you said that. Love this country. Here's the problem, and this is not me stereotyping, this is a fact. The left don't love this country. Well, the proof is the And that is the issue, right? But to me, you know, and then now they're saying, oh, the ICE is making mistakes and they're they are deporting people who are here legally. Name one.
SPEAKER_00That's what Charlie Kirk always said. Name one. Charlie Kirk. And they can't. They can't because they can't. Uh, because there was there was this thing uh before before Charlie Kirk died. There was this thing in uh, I believe it was if he is dead. If he is, yeah. Whole different argument, but um and and the people uh it was a university in London. I forgot what I saw this, I know exactly what you're gonna say. And he goes, name one.
SPEAKER_01He offered I have a hundred pounds right now if you name one.
SPEAKER_00I think it was like 10,000 pounds or something. Oh, okay, okay. But it was a lot of money, and he goes, if you can name one that they deported.
SPEAKER_01And then one person tried to name one and he's and he said, no, look it up. He's not he's not he's not American. Yeah. They are not deporting legal immigrants, and there's a reason why there's a difference between the saying legal immigrant and illegal immigrant. Well, clearly. But they won't call them illegal, they'll call them undocumented. Well But being undocumented is illegal. That's the crime. You don't have documents. Yeah. So I I just don't understand. Another interview that was funny, I forget her name. It's that chick, she goes around to all the riots and uh short, curly hair, whatever. And she went up to uh she's a protest. She's like, okay, I have five people who just crossed the border. We're gonna come to your house, they're gonna live with you. Yeah, and he's like, no, no, no. So why not? Your house is their house. Our country is their country. Your house is, you know. Yeah. So if you're not willing to do that, what's the difference? We let them in our country. And the problem is, is the crime, especially in the southern states, it's all happening from these people who are undocumented.
SPEAKER_00Well, you get a send them home. Well, you get a Colombian leader that knows that the US border is open. So what does he do? And this is what happened back in 1979, 1980 with Fidel Castro, because our Biden, well, sorry, I keep calling him Biden, but his name was Carter. He said, We will, we will take, we will, uh, we're gonna show humanity to Cuba, and we're gonna take uh I don't remember the numbers. Let's just for the sake of argument say 350,000 people we're gonna take from Cuba, we're gonna bring them to uh to America to show that America is uh is you know uh the land of the free and they they want to uh to show mercy. Yeah. So what does Fidel Castro do? The brainiac? He he goes, empties his prisons, empties his loony bins, empties all those people say here, you take them, we don't want to deal with them. Right. And if you if anybody has seen the the movie Scarface, that's that's where the fictional character came from. He was a criminal in Cuba, and he and he comes to a Miami, and then you know the rest of the story. But that's uh and if you look at the the numbers that came in to our uh to well our country, but to to America, the southern border, all those hundreds and well, millions of people that came, do do a quick survey. How many of them were doctors or lawyers or accountants or physicians or anything? None. I was gonna say less than one percent. If not not even that. Right. And these countries, I mean, you can't you can't listen. I can't blame Venezuela or or or Colombia or Panama and all they want to get rid of their garbage. So so the the uh the Democrats opened the you know the southern border, and of course they're gonna come through. And then ICE, now ICE is trying to clean up the mess that the Democrats did, and now they're they're being uh you know persecuted for it. They're following the law. Yeah, and to any Karen out there that's listening, that's mad, this is what you do run for office, go to Congress, go to the Senate, change the law. Until then, they're illegal.
SPEAKER_01And just to make it clear, because I know this is also a topic of discussion, every single person who is arrested by ICE gets due process. That's right. They don't tell you that. They don't tell you that, they get due process. So there's to me, I I just don't I don't see how you could be against what they are doing.
SPEAKER_00Keep in mind there's another factor. The the hatred for President Trump is so rampant, the the the derangement syndrome is so bad that uh like I think I said it last week or the week before, uh, he can cure cancer and they will they won't accept it. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Okay, let me ask you this then. Um if this was Obama who implemented ICE, and this was Obama doing all this, would this be as big of a deal?
SPEAKER_00Well, uh that that's a very good question because Obama did. How many millions of people did he deport?
SPEAKER_01Oh, you mean those cages where all the kids were locked up in that they blame Trump for? But it was actually Obama who did that, right?
SPEAKER_00Obama, right. Even I remember in the uh mid 90s when uh Bill Clinton, everything Trump is saying today, Bill Clinton said back in '93, '94. We are a nation of laws. You can't just come here on a whim. We have to close the border. You see, that's the thing. Every president. President, even uh Bush would say these things. Trump's the only one that actually acts on it. Actually acts on it. Yeah. That's right. I was listening to a uh conversation that uh Donald Trump had with Barbara Walters. This is going back a few years. And and and then he goes, bomb Iran, take their oil. Like they're they're they're causing problems in the Middle East. And and uh Donald Trump's biggest problem with uh with the Bushes and the Clintons and all these guys said, look, we're sending trillions of dollars to the Middle East. What are we getting out of it? Right. What is the point? Like I I go I go to a department store, I give them money, and they give me a product or service. What did the Americans get for spending all these trillions of dollars? Not not one teens teaspoon of oil. Take their damn oil. And that's what he's doing now.
SPEAKER_01That's what he's doing now. Yeah, and he should. But but the whole the whole ice thing, like what's that saying? Play stupid games, win st win dumb prizes or whatever it is. That's right, yeah. That's how I feel with these people that are interfering with ice doing their jobs. And hey, listen, these ice people, they're they're they're they're human beings too. They're hardworking Americans. Sure. Right? They they have families to go home to as well. Okay. They have to protect themselves just as much as the cops do or the firefighters do or or whoever. So, of course they're gonna try to defend themselves if things get wild. You're gonna berate them, you're gonna start throwing stones and rocks at their vehicles, you're gonna try to knock them down, kick them down, pepper spray them. Of course they're gonna defend you. They think you have a themselves. You think they if you think someone has a gun on them, they're gonna pull up their gun. Well, they should. There has not been one case out of how many, how many, I don't know, I don't have the number, people who have been quote unquote, I hate that I'm saying this, murdered by ice, but killed accidentally by ice. How many of those people deserved it? And I'm not saying deserved death. I I know what you mean. I'm saying deserved it in terms of ice had no choice. The retaliation. Because they were protecting themselves. Like that that chick who with with the Honda who tried to run over the run over the the agent. And they're trying to justify saying that um she wasn't trying to do that. She was scared for her life. Well, my lying eyes.
SPEAKER_00Like what? And they're making her a martyr. You see, and that's and that's the thing. Uh, when they when um they start going against common sense, and they start going again, and they're telling me, no, that's not what I saw. Well, then why don't you tell me what I saw? Right.
SPEAKER_01Oh, a victim. Who's the victim? But here's the thing people are stupid enough to believe that that's they they'll believe what people tell them before what they believe what they see with their own eyes.
SPEAKER_00Well, you have to be very careful. I'll tell you why. There was this thing I saw, I can't remember if it was uh uh 60 minutes or so. This university professor, this lady, was doing a uh a lecture, and she started the lecture saying that what we're gonna talk uh what we're talking about is um eyewitness. And she goes, you know, courts use eyewitnesses, they they do uh uh they try to get the the best proof possible, and at that time a uh a man ran in, took took uh something off her desk and ran out. And all she said was that that hooded character took my purse. Okay. That's all she said. That was crazy, guys. Almost everybody swore on a Bible that he had a hoodie on, and then they played the video back, not a hoodie, and he only took a book, not her purse. And that's that's your eyewitness. Yeah, and you see, and and that's that's the thing. People like like even during 9-11, you had these and I call them plants. They said, Oh, the plane, the plane, the the uh the uh uh the passenger plane, the that was a military plane. No, no, no, passenger plane, and he and they kept saying it, saying it. So people they just saw a military plane hit the building, yeah. But because of, I guess, adrenaline, uh, whatever you know human factor gets in, they get confused. And they will swear and they will pass a lie detector test. It was a passenger. They are that convinced. They are that convinced, yeah, because that this guy's screaming it and all that. So you got to be very careful. And and now that's why these Karen are doing this. They're saying that she's uh she's uh a victim, she's a victim, she's a hero. She's trying to save these people from being uh uh taken by ice. And and then it gets to the point where you don't even know what's true anymore. Right now, was that look, I wasn't physically there, I saw it on camera, so I I'll say this. Uh was was she impeding their investigation? Yes, she was. Did they purposely try to kill her? You know what? I'll say I don't know. Right. All right, because I was in there. All I know is this. They were doing a job, they were getting illegals out of Minnesota. That's all they were doing. Yeah, she got involved, you know. What's that to F around and find out? Yeah, yeah, you know, and now if she was uh on the side, like I listen, I'll be the first to say, go ahead, protest all you want, but you don't get involved physically with police officers. You're just looking for trouble. And and the and the police officer will defend himself to your demise. So you can't you can't you can't argue it and and uh it's only gonna get worse because now with this Iran war and all this stuff.
SPEAKER_01Well, now just as of I believe it was last week, um, ICE is now in the airports.
SPEAKER_00Oh that would that was a brilliant move.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, the TSA checks, yeah, all ICE agents.
SPEAKER_00And and just think how how freely illegal people are traveling in in United States. Because I I'm telling you, Trump knew this. And and and and he's in and again, like I said, he's a tactitioner, so he was probably prodding on the Democrats to tick them off. So they said, Yeah, they shut down, they shut down the TSA. Okay, we'll get ice in there. Exactly. Guys, listen, the guy's uh he's brilliant. I I think the man the man's the master. Yeah. And and you can all uh you can only do nothing but laugh. Right. And and and and the suckers, uh, I'm sorry, and the Democrats are falling for it all the time.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, to me, it's just and I like what you said about the eyewitness, the way that the left spin things. Yeah, right? Because even in that Arnold interview on The View, they were saying, like, oh, well, you're an immigrant, you're an immigrant. Yes, I'm an immigrant, but you're leaving out the first word, the most important word, literally the word that is the reason why ICE is doing what they are doing, and it's illegal. Yeah, that's right. Like that's what that's what he was saying. And now they're trying to spin it where, oh, if you're an immigrant, you have to be careful. Why? No, if you're legal, you're legal. Uh well, what funny is it's it's been viral for a little bit now, but there's this one Puerto Rican guy on Twitter, or I guess it's called X now, and he tweeted out, he says, Oh no, I'm worried about my my mother-in-law who's here legally. Uh, I hope she's okay. Her address is this, this, this, this, this, this. I hope ICE isn't going grab her because she's illegal.
SPEAKER_00That's actually brilliant.
SPEAKER_01And one last thing before we move on, I want to mention about ICE. That's a big misconception or what people are lied to on the media. They do not legally need warrants. Right. People don't don't understand that. They don't need show me the warrant. Show me the warrant. They don't legally need to uh have a warrant. And I'm actually on the ICE website right now, ICE.gov. Um, and they have a whole bunch, they have a whole page. It's actually very uh it's a very good page, all about all these commonly asked questions. Uh, and one of them is why uh do they need a warrant? Uh ICE does not need judicial warrants to make arrests. Like all other law enforcement officers, ICE officers are and agents can initiate consensual encounters and speak with people briefly, detaining aliens when they have reasonable suspicion that the aliens are illegally present in the United States. That's another thing I want to touch on, and obviously, you know, I was raised a lot differently than most people. Um, I guess my views show that. And I know this will be very controversial, but I was always taught if you got nothing to hide, why act suspicious? Okay. And here's the thing. You know, our family, we know we're we're, you know, police family, back to blue, never issues with the law, always supported what police do and what they stand for. If I got pulled over to a certain point, I've got nothing to hide. Okay? So, yes, does he does he need a warrant to to go in my vehicle? Sure. I've got nothing to hide. If it makes his job easier for me to show him my trunk, okay, even though it is my right to refuse it, okay, I will do that. I've got nothing to hide. Alright? Now some people are gonna say, well, you know, police, they you know, they'll plant something or this and that. You know what? Yes, there are bad cops and cops do that, but one thing I've learned, and one thing you always taught me was if you're respectful to them and you don't give them a sign of caution or a sign of something is wrong, they're not gonna treat you like garbage. They're just not. They're human beings. It is what it is. With these ice raids, the thing that bothers me, okay, is there are a lot of people who resist arrest and say, no, you have no right, this and that, I'm here, whatever. Do process. That's the reality, you know what? And if you don't like it, that's the reality we live in. Guess what? Stereotypes are stereotypes because they're true. That's what a stereotype is. You know, and if you live in a home in Southern California, um, a 2,000 square foot home with 18 people, guess what? Stereotypically, they're probably illegals there. Yeah. Let's just say it the way it is. If you don't like it, you know, it's tough.
SPEAKER_00Write an email.
SPEAKER_01That's just the reality of it.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_01So you give, and what do you what do you expect these ICE people to to think? They're humans too. They face this all the time. They have more of a stereotype than we do.
SPEAKER_00Well, let me let me uh let me paint this picture for you. Uh ICE, that's true. They don't need a warrant. Now. There's the suspicion. Now, okay. You're on on Ontario Roads. Can an OPP officer just pull you over because he feels like it? No. No. He has to have probable cause. Correct. Okay, so now let me ask you this question. You're driving. Can the MTO pull you over for no reason? I believe so. They can, yeah. Because uh what they're doing is they're checking for safety of the vehicle. You see? So they don't need probable cause. If he looks at your predominantly trucks, so if he sees your truck, there's something hanging, he has the legal right to pull you right over and investigate. No warrant, no probable cause, nothing. And it's because of what's happening with ice and people yelling and screaming that the OPP and the MTO brilliantly, well, if you're a truck driver, you hate it, but they are the MTO is now near the border, they're pulling over all the trucks, yeah, checking their loads, checking everything. Because OPP can't do it, right? They have to have probable cause. So, and in the same way, MTO is like ice because if you're doing if if you're you know you're walking down the street, and I I don't know. I mean, I mean you can make an argument uh that well it's kind of like Gestapo. It's but you know what? I I don't know that that's they don't need probable cause.
SPEAKER_01These these police officers and these ICE agents for what they deal with, okay, and I'm gonna shift a little bit here because we're gonna go into a bit of uh talk about racism here, but the best I forget who it was. It was it was it was a it was a black comedian, and I believe he had a family member who was a cop or whatever, and he was saying, yeah, most police officers are prejudiced, if that's the right word for this, towards pulling black people over. Why? Because guess what? Stereotypically, 80% of the time, that guy does have a gun on him, and they deal with it so much that you can't blame them for having their guards up. Like I said, they're humans too. Right? And it's the same thing with the ice going to going to Minnesota, going to these things. They're gonna protect themselves. They have a family to go to as well. They're just doing their jobs. So why don't we, what we should do as a society, if you actually, well, we I'm talking about Americans, if you actually cared about your country and cared about the safety of your country and cared about the laws and the constitution, you should make the ice jobs easier. Well, help them out. Well, right point. You know, not like the Puerto Rican who's who's throwing his mother-in-law under the bus, but but you know, like why are you blocking them? Why are you making why are you getting your vehicles and blocking the streets so they don't go? I Right, and by the way, I forgot to mention this. That chick who they claimed to be a martyr or whatever that was, then the Honda pilot, it came out later that a lot of the people in that community knew that that couple that they arrested were illegal and they were protecting them. Well, so there you go. So it's like, what are we what are we doing here? And listen, I know not everyone has the same view. I know people are gonna totally disagree with us, and that's the beauty of freedom of expression that we have right now. So far. As of right now. But it's to me, I just I just don't understand why you wouldn't want to make your country safer. And yes, no argument on this, because there is no argument, by kicking these people out who are here illegally, you are making your country safer. You know what? File sorry, guess what? Asylum, seeking asylum does still not give you legal status, just so you know.
SPEAKER_00You still have to file, right? Well, that's what was said uh during one uh Congress session. AOC says, well, seeking asylum is not illegal. And Tom Holman says, well, then come through the right uh port. Don't go through some field in the side of the the Rio Grande, go to the regular port, like like the legal people do. See, we there's a lot of legal immigrants too that come in, they go through the process.
SPEAKER_01Right, yeah, but see, and I'm reading this off the ICE website. The question is, is asylum a legal status? Asylum is one form of legal status, but applying for asylum doesn't mean a person has legal status. Right. Okay. Right. So, you know, and that's the thing. If if you're I don't know, if your country is that bad, then why are you parading on the streets burning the American people? And it's not everybody, it's not everybody. I'm sure there's some hardworking people, and I'm just gonna say Mexicans only because the border's right there. Yeah. There are hardworking Mexicans who are literally trying to come for a better life. Right. You know what? I'm sorry to say it, just like two plus two is four, there are laws you have to follow. We will welcome you with open arms. I love immigration. I mean, especially well, especially in Canada, immigration is what makes this country go. If it wasn't for immigration, I wouldn't be here right now. Neither would I. That's right. But there is a process, and the issue is that people don't believe in the process. Well, they want to skip the lines too, because it it takes a few years. It's not just uh Well, we know people personally. I'm not gonna say anything, names or whatever, but they are here on they are here legally because they have they're on their visas, and just this past couple of weeks, one of our friends finally got his legal status. Right. Right? Right now, they're not here illegally, they are here legally with visas and whatever and work work permits and stuff like that. But to me, like if I were to know anybody who's here illegally, right, who who let's say their visa expired and they're on the hot on in their hide or something. On a lamb, shame on you. Yeah. You know what? As a matter of fact, God have mercy on your soul if you're protecting them. They are breaking the law. Because they are breaking the law, period. Simple as that. You can feel sorry for them, and you know what? Just like this is gonna sound awful, and I don't mean it to sound awful, and this is gonna sound I hate the word privilege, it's gonna sound very privileged. Just like some people are born in the villages of Africa versus people born into a rich family. That's just the cards you were drawn. You're dealt. You're dealt, sorry. Yeah, it's just it that's just the reality of existence. I wish it was different. I wish we could do that. You know what? I wish we could, everyone can come to this to America, right? They're facing troubles, but you gotta do it legally.
SPEAKER_00Well, did you know a lot of people don't know this? And again, and this is what people they they listen to garbage and they believe lies. But a young couple is crossing the border, let's say in in in Mexico, and she's nine months pregnant, and she gives birth to a child on the American side. That child doesn't automatically become American. People think that's not true, that's not true. And that's and uh just that no politician has the guts to call them out on it. Right, none. Except one. Yeah, and that's what he's been doing. And that's what he goes. Just because you were born here, that that that's you were born here, you're illegal. So that's why you gotta be careful. And um, and I know we'll probably get a lot of hate emails, which I I welcome. I, you know, you just look, I'll tell you what, uh, Karen's out there. If you can prove me wrong, I'm willing to listen. If if if illegal immigration, if I shouldn't be throwing out illegals, convince me. Tell me, you know, so-and-so, you're you're wrong. They're doing it all wrong. Right. And I don't understand how a US, I think it was a senator or congressman, went to, I think it was the the Latin country that the uh MS-13 guy, the leader, okay, was kicked out. And of course, they didn't say he was a gang member. No, no, right, right. Uh Maryland father was kicked out of the country. And he had MS-13 on his knuckles. That's just a coincidence. Like, like, like how stupid do you think we are?
SPEAKER_01Right. I didn't want to just we're gonna move on from ice here, but I didn't want to I wrote this down as you were talking uh earlier about Trump derangement syndrome. All right. Okay. And I'm not saying this from well, I am saying this from my point of view, but I know a lot of people who, especially, I'll just say I know a lot of black people who agree with me with this, but just like people, no matter you talk about Trump derangement syndrome, no matter what people say, or no matter what Trump says, people will just disagree or be against it because Trump said it. Right. It was the same way, but in reverse with Obama and black people. Okay Obama can say two plus two is five, and everyone will believe them. Because he's black. Well, he was the savior. Right. And then you get these. Listen, maybe it's just because people I hang out with, but we have I have a lot of black friends. Oh, there you go. They all hate. They hated Obama for what he stood for. Because you want to talk about a real racist? People think that Trump is a racist. No, Obama was the racist. Yeah. You know what I mean? So, but I just I just want to say that one man can do no wrong, but one man no one man can do no right. And that's just the political spectrum. But the issue with that is that it was race involved. So, me as a white person, how dare I say anything because I'll be I'll be considered a racist. And you know what? If you think I'm a racist for saying that, then cool, think I'm a racist. That doesn't bother me.
SPEAKER_00Well, you see, I remember when Obama was nothing, a nobody, in uh I I believe it was in 2004, and he was elected into this uh the Senate, and uh and then he's he's on the ticket. Right. He was a plant. 100% Trump knew this. And to this day, I I I I forgot what the amount was, but Trump said, you show me your your US birth certificate, Shelby, and I'll and I'll donate five million dollars to any charity you want. And he couldn't do it. Yeah. He had looked. And as he still have he hasn't shown any proof of that to this day. He was like, they're saying he was born in Kenya. They used they used uh uh Hawaii, so they showed his birth certificate in Hawaii, and not even not even a good expert caught one, two, three, four places. Clearly it was modified. Right. Even even the lettering on the typewriter wasn't invented yet. So the so this it was all a scam. Yeah. Um, I even remember as a kid, they were talking about that uh the American uh the American president is a plant. One guy, like during during the Watergate, uh, I was I was really young during Watergate, but one guy said, Look, we elect a you think you elect a you don't do you don't have any say. We we can even put a dumb peanut farmer in uh Washington if we want. And guess what they did? In 76, they put in a dumb peanut farmer.
SPEAKER_01I'm convinced that the next three to four presidents are already chosen. And I think that's why it was such a big deal when Trump beat Hillary the first time, because that was not part of the plan. That's right. That I Time magazine already had millions of issues printed out two days before the election, Madame President. Madame President, that's right. Right? I truly believe that that shocked the system. That's why they're freaking out.
SPEAKER_00That's why exactly, 100%. Well, you see, what one thing you have to remember is a a lot of people also don't know this. Uh, in the 1880s and 1890s, America was on the um what's that tax? Uh the name escapes me. Not the tariff tariffs. The tariffs. They had so much money that they had a department what to do with all this money. Right. 1913 1913 came along and said, look, there's a war. We're gonna be part of World War One, so we're gonna have an income tax to fund the war. Guess what? Income tax never went away. Yeah, that's right. So the so America became a corporation. So a lot of people don't understand that we're a corporation. That's why we're uh that not we're like, I mean, the Americans are uh, you know, is it 39 billion trillion dollars in debt? It's it's all corporate, it's uh it's all one big scheme. Yeah, so I think personally, before he leaves office, he's going to bankrupt America. So it goes back to the original the original settlement, the way America was supposed to be. Right. That's what I think. I might be wrong. Okay, okay. But I can I can see him actually all all he all he has to do is declare bankruptcy and using their laws, he basically flips them the bird. We're not paying you a uh a damn dime. Right. We're gonna file chapter 11. Screw you and your horse. I could see that happening. And these big, these trillionaires and these billionaires, these big names that, you know, even uh, you know, the US Treasury is not a government office. People think it's government. No, it's a private corporation. Right. And you know, in Canada, in Canada too. I mean, the the system is so corrupt, it's so screwed up. Um something has to give. You can't you can't make uh $2,000 a month but spend a hundred thousand. Right. You can't. Eventually it's gonna catch up to you.
SPEAKER_01Well, who's that? I forget his name. There's that guy. Oh, the name escapes me. But he basically predicted the last three or four uh economy crashes. Oh, I don't remember. And he came out with a statement a couple weeks ago, and he basically said, prepare, uh, crash is coming.
SPEAKER_00Well, everything is a hundred year, a hundred-year cycle. Like in in 1918, we had the Spanish flu. Then we had COVID. Yeah, but the last economy crash was 29. Was 09. Oh nine. Well, yeah, that was uh that was like a recessionary type. But the actual market crash was 1929.
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SPEAKER_00People lost.
SPEAKER_01If I'm not mistaken, I don't know. This is my lack of history knowledge, wasn't that Black Friday? No, Black Friday was in the 80s. This was 1987, I believe.
SPEAKER_00Yes. But uh, but the actual crash when billionaires, millionaires became paupers overnight, right, was in 29. Guys uh in New York City, people were jumping out of buildings because they lost everything.
SPEAKER_01So you're saying we should be preparing in three years for another within the next three years for another crash.
SPEAKER_00Put it this way uh the next day after the crash, I wouldn't be surprised.
SPEAKER_01Right. Right. Well, moving on because we are running out of time here. I didn't want to mention this. We don't have much time, so I don't uh want to spend too much time on it. Um Erica Kirk, okay. Uh say what you want, lost her husband. There's been a lot of criticism about her about the way she's been acting, and even like at the funeral or the memorial they had, whatever. So there's this YouTuber, uh comedian, his name is Drewski. Alright. Okay, and he was known to kind of make these viral funny clips mocking people. So the last one he did before the one I'm about to show you, he did uh mega church pastors. Alright. And he was basically mocking them like coming in on angels' wings and you know wearing like you know a million-dollar shoes and just acting like a douchebag. But they do that, but mocking them, but yeah, it was it was kind of it was funny.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_01So he came out with a new video, uh, and it was how conservative women act. Alright. Alright. So I'm gonna, because of copyright, I obviously can't play it with the audio and whatever. So I'm gonna show it to you now. Alright. Alright, I want to get your opinion, and then I'll just fast forward um our conversation so that we don't waste 30 seconds of people's time. So I want you to watch it.
SPEAKER_02Okay.
SPEAKER_01Keep in mind, this is a big, I guess I should have said Druski. He's a big black guy. Okay? I'm gonna play this right now. Kind of funny. Okay. Here's my problem. And yes, I'm gonna use, I'm I'm gonna say what you're probably thinking. I'm gonna say. Big black guy dressing up as a white woman. Okay. Me as a big white guy. If I dressed up as a white woman, as a black woman, automatically, I'm canceled, blackface, I'm this, I'm a racist, this and that, I'll lose my business, I'll lose everything. Your mother and I will be embarrassed. But a black person can do that for a white skit, but a white person can't do that for a black skit. And don't give me the whole, oh no, times have changed, they can do that. No, no, no, no, no, no. That's not the case at all. To me, and I want to bring this up, this isn't about I'm not I'm not saying this in terms of my angle on this isn't that racism isn't fair or black people are privileged more than what that's not that's not that's not my whole argument to this. My argument to this is specifically against the left. Because even him, he's making fun of on the right wing. I bet you in this scenario, if he was making fun of the left wing, it would be a different story.
SPEAKER_00Well, if you you if you if you put on black makeup and made fun of Joy Reed. Yeah, then you you would be the right you would be the bad guy. 100%. So why is it different? I see when I when I look at things like that, it reminds me of a story. I'll say this one quick. Uh, we had a uh a family, uh church we went to, and uh this uh you know a black family, we you know really love them, really great people. And he um he asked me point blank, he goes, uh let me ask you something. Uh if you had uh, you know, your kids are gonna do what they want to do, but if you had control over your children, would you allow them to marry a black person? So I'm thinking, thinking, I said, okay, I'll tell you my answer, but you first. He goes, what do you mean? I said, no, no. Would you allow your children to marry white people? And again, there's no wrong answer because it's your preference. He goes, no, I wouldn't. I said, okay. You wouldn't want them to marry white people. Okay, fair enough. Why not? Well, I I I just, you know, me personally, I want pure grandchildren. I said, all right, that's fair. That's your that's your preference, that's what you want. The problem is, is you can say that, and nobody's gonna bat an eyelash. Right. If I were to say exactly what you just said, I'm a Klansman. That's the issue. And that's the problem, and that's with anything. If if if uh uh there was one time, this is going back a few years, I was in a uh uh in a health club, and uh this uh big muscular guy uh of African descent, uh he's he's doing the front desk. And uh so I went down the stairs and I said, excuse me, sir, I a question for you. He goes, uh Yes sir, what can I do for you? Would you be upset? And then then I uttered seven phrases, and in those phrases was the infamous N-word, right? And he goes, Boy, what are you talking about? I said, Well, would you get mad? Yeah, I'm gonna kill you. I said, Yeah, then take it off the speakers. I'm listening to that crap.
SPEAKER_01Right.
SPEAKER_00Why is every second word is that n-word and the F-word? And take it off. Right. What's wrong with you? This is a public place. That shut him up really quick. But I said, look, you you you guys, you can't you guys can't, it's you can't do that. What's the double standard? 100%. It's a huge double standard, and I think it's time to to to kill it. Uh, you see, uh in episode one, there was this there was a story. Uh then then I I backtracked a bit and said, no, I'm not gonna tell you that story. All right, but I will tell you this story. I'm in the sauna, and uh I was in there for about 20 minutes. I'm done. I'm I'm sweaty, I'm I'm ready to go. But unfortunately, and I say this unfortunately, at the situation, two black guys walked in and sat down. I got up to leave. It was my time to leave.
SPEAKER_01Right.
SPEAKER_00So one of them goes, Oh, you're leaving because we're black. So I stopped, I looked at them. See, at that point, it's it's it's done. There's no just there's no discussion. And I said, Oh, you really got my number. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm a racist. Yep, yeah, that's exactly why I'm leaving. And I'm leaving because I'm late for my 10 o'clock cross burning. Right. And and the other guy, he he saw the sensor sarcasm, yeah, and he just busted out laughing. Yeah, then he said something to him in his ear. And then, like, like, come on, guys, like, give it a rest already. And when you're dealing with that kind of a mentality, I I I don't know where it's it's got to stop. And I it I me as a as a white guy, I'm sorry, but I'm uh I'm I'm sick and tired of apologizing for being a white guy. Yeah, those days are over. I'm sorry. I it's everything Martin Luther King fought for, the left is doing now. Yes, everything.
SPEAKER_01That's that's exactly right. Yeah. Yeah, no, to me, it's it's it's I'll just say this. This will be my last thought on this whole. Like I said, we can talk about this for hours. My I'm just gonna say this. Um I'm gonna say something very controversial. This might be our last episode from what I'm about to say. Okay, bring it on. There is no such thing as white privilege. I think the white privilege card is a joke. If anything, if anything, if you really want to argue it, if you're a person of color, not just black, brown, what Asian, whatever, you have more privilege because things are now forced your way. Right. So don't give me this this bull crap about white privilege and this and that. That does not exist anymore. As a matter of fact, you know, I I personally believe, especially moving forward in the in the direction, especially in Canada that we are going, it's almost like being white is gonna be the minority. Not in terms of numbers, but in terms of societal standards.
SPEAKER_00Well, it's interesting you say that because I had a situation where um I was on the phone with a client, and uh and the guy sounded like my generation remember this, John Cleese. He's the Englishman of uh Faulty Towers. Uh oh, John Cleese, yes, yes, John Cleese, yeah. So he said Faulty Towers, yeah. Yeah. So he and this guy, like I'm I'm talking to him on the phone, and and he's like, like, you know, like the the heavy, thick English accent. Right, oh yes, oh Jody. Oh, he's going to the pub to watch Manchester United on Sunday. So he comes in, he walks into my office, and uh and I said, Yes, can I help you? And he goes, then he tells me who he is, and I'm looking at him, shocked. And and he says, What's your problem, man? I said, uh, you're so and so. He goes, right? Oh, oh, oh, you're surprised. Then he used that that dreaded P word. I said, Yeah, you look more like Gandhi. I'm thinking in my head, I'm thinking that you're you know, you're an Englishman. He goes, Well, I am an Englishman. I said, he goes, No, I'm sixth generation English. Right. Like he goes, I'm a smart ass Brit. Yeah. I said, Wow, but you look. He goes, No, no, no, I know. I looked apart. I look like a third world, but I'm I'm a Brit. And you know what? You and these are his words. You white boys don't know how to be racist. You're given that title because you're born a white man, you're automatically you're you're you're burning crosses and you know, and riding around with hoods. The real the real when you have a society that is uh based on class, that's crazy. He goes, like, I'll go to a wedding or a funeral when they look at me just like you, you never thought I'd be British. I just keep my mouth shut and I listen to some of the stuff that they say. You'd be in jail if you said some of those things. Right. And and that's and and that's the the the hard truth.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. And and it and it's crazy. Yeah, no, it's crazy. Yeah. Well, we're gonna end it there before we say anything else, it'll get us even more canceled, but that's fine. It's the best thing. My brother says this all the time. I'm gonna butcher this, but he says, you can only get canceled if you care about getting canceled. Well, if they cancel me, bring it on. Yeah, but I have one question. We're gonna end the show with this as the music gets cued. One question. It's very viral right now. They're going around asking everybody who was um born um as as as your generation X, correct? Okay. As Generation X. What is Jenny's number? Jenny's number. That's all I'm gonna say. What is Jenny's number? Ah, 867-5309. 867-5309. That's I remember that's listen to it as we close. Once again, thank you for listening. Um, always a blast. And as a reminder, if you have any questions, if you want to criticize me for my white privilege on my statements, or if you want to have some conversation, want us to talk about something and get our views, once again, the email address is thefamilybusiness.chat at gmail.com. Once again, thefamilybusiness.chat at gmail.com. And we might not respond to you, but if you email us, I'm sure I'll give you a shout out on the pod. Any closing thoughts? No, that's pretty much it. All right, well, to close it off this episode, I give you Jenny's number.
SPEAKER_02I think you might go.