Episode 12- Nothing Wrong With Being White

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SPEAKER_02 0:00

You are listening to the Family Business Podcast, episode number twelve. For inquiries, you can contact us at thefamily business dot chat at gmail.com. Once again, thefamily business.chat at gmail.com. We are back episode number twelve. If you told me two months ago that we'd be at episode number twelve, I would I honestly, I I'm not just saying this. I honestly don't think I'd believe you. Why not? I I you know what it is. So this is my I you know I I might give myself away here, but I've been doing, I've always wanted to get into podcasting. I enjoy it. Um I did a little small thing before, never got to episode 10. I did another thing with a couple friends. We only got to like four or five. To me, it's it's and it actually helps having someone like you because I feel like I'm all the only one that was committed, right? Especially the ones I did with my buddies. We tried a sports one back in the day, and it's just schedules and you know, conflicts and this and that and everything. But I guess I guess living in the same home helps. Right, I guess it's obviously, you know, our schedules, you know, I'm not I'm not saying that our schedules are the same because we have two totally different careers, but being both being self-employed also helps as well. But nonetheless, like I said, episode 12, I I'm ecstatic. I'm very happy with um with all the emails we've been getting. We got actually, I don't know if I didn't tell you this yet, we got four this past week uh commenting on the uh the whole Islamic extremism and the Sharia law coming to America. And I had one I had one listener who said that they could see California and New York be totally go against the US Constitution and literally become Sharia law, sha Sharia states.

SPEAKER_01 2:20

If if somebody like uh Gavin is in office, then for sure. But a guy like Trump, no. I I I can't see that happening. Right.

SPEAKER_02 2:28

But the that and then also actually one one listener actually uh emailed us something that happened this past week, and it's gonna be our main conversation, and we'll get there eventually. But I'm happy, you know, it's a perfect example. If there's something you guys want us to talk about, we will talk about it. Right? So I thank that listener for uh for emailing us in, and it just so happens that the suggestion, I'm not saying that it would have happened anyways, but the suggestion of this article or this story that happened will be the main vocal point of this episode. Oh, okay. So that just shows, gives you, gives you all you other listeners, uh, an example of hey, we do listen. We do hear your emails, we see your emails, um, and we love it. We love the engagement. Well, um, I'm just as interested as your listeners because I have no idea what you're gonna talk about. And and moving forward, I just let's keep it going. All right. Uh, but for those of you who listened to the last episode, I just wanted to bring this up. Um obviously it's not just about politics and religion, it's but also just life in general. You know, we're you know, two guys, whatever. Uh if you for those of you who remember, I had to cut the episode short last week because I was going away for the weekend. All right. And I'll say this. Growing up, you know, you guys would always take us. We would always go to, we never actually stayed in Niagara Falls. Right? Like, because we I remember growing up, we would always go to, we would always cross the border, go to the outlet malls. I remember we would always drop off uh mom, and at that time I would have had, well, yeah, all three of my sisters, uh, we would drop them off at the mall, and then you and I would go take off, go to a movie, or go to the patty cages or go-karts or do something, because we're not gonna walk around the mall for eight hours. I'd rather bleed out of my eyes. Exactly. But we all and whenever the rare occasion that we stayed over, um, we would always stay in the American side.

SPEAKER_01 4:24

Right.

SPEAKER_02 4:24

Now, for those of you who are in Canada, downtown Niagara Falls, is it called Lundy Lane? Not Lundy Lane. No, no, it's uh what is it called? On what side? The Canadian side, the tourists. So that's where all the haunted houses are, all the restaurants, all that stuff. Listen, I'm gonna sound like a snob, but in my opinion, it's it's kind of trashy. Niagara Falls. Well, yeah. It's a little bit, it's a little bit like a bizarre. Yeah, it's it's a it's got the carnival feel. Now, I don't know if you saw this, but Ford did, I don't know if it passed, but he wanted to pass like a $50 million uh plan to basically upgrade that whole area. Or revamp it. Revamp it, do all that. Reason why I'm saying this is so when you think of Niagara Falls, excuse me, Hauntivirus, you think of that's the first thing you think of is like the haunted houses, the big Ferris wheel they have there, the mini putting, you know, the restaurants, all that. And everything's tripled in price, by the way. Oh, of course. So my girlfriend wanted to take me for a two-year anniversary, so we stayed in Niagara Falls. But our whole point of going there wasn't actually Niagara Falls. She was saying we're gonna go hang out in Niagara on the lake. Ah. Oh, okay. I'm 34 years old. I can't I I don't even know how many times I've been to Niagara Falls. Like hundreds of times. Okay. I've never been to Niagara on the Lake. I didn't even know Niagara on the Lake existed.

SPEAKER_01 6:07

Well, I like your mother and I wouldn't take five kids to Windows.

SPEAKER_02 6:11

Well, see, and that's that's the thing, but I had no idea it existed. It is one of the most beautiful places in Ontario. Well, your mother and I didn't go because I I mean we're not into wine, so I Well, I I don't I don't drink either, but just like it has that old I'm trying to think of it it kind of has like that country club, rich lifestyle, you know, like like the ball what what's it called on Boston, uh Maine. What's that what's that really rich area there? Oh um Nantucket Island? No, not Nantucket Island. It's one of those islands that are there. I forget somebody's gonna message us and say what it is. Yeah. Um and it was beautiful. Like the the pier there, and you you park your car, you walk around, they have all these nice little shops, and everything is the ground is all gravel. It's like but will a diet coke cost you seven bucks? We went to a restaurant there right on the strip. All right. Uh it was Sunday night we went. I think we it was it wasn't it wasn't a Greek restaurant, but it was the owner was Greek, so we did have Greek stuff on the menu. I think for two of us, I think it was like $135, $145, which wasn't bad. Not bad. I mean, considering the ambience and where it is and now I do remember though, now it's funny you say that because my girlfriend, she got two Diet Cokes and there's no free refills there. Oh, really? And it was $9 for two Diet Cokes.

SPEAKER_03 7:46

That's nice.

SPEAKER_02 7:48

I mean, it's still highway robbery, but it's doable. Right. But no, but I was I was just I was just impressed with Niagara on the Lake. Right. It's gorgeous. It's expensive, but it's gorgeous. Honestly, I know you and mom aren't really like scenic people, and you know. Well, after this, I think we're gonna be. I think your mom's gonna drag me now. But but it's one of those things where it's like you can literally park your car at 8 a.m., walk up and down the main drag. I think it's I think it's called Queen Street. It's the main drag. All right. Go into little shops, they have famous ice cream places there, you know, hat stores and gift stores and all that stuff. Then you can make your way to the water, go along the coastline, beautiful scenery. You can you can literally spend all day there. Really? Yeah. And the only reason why I bring that up was A, I was surprised that I didn't know that existed. B kind of a mistake because now the girlfriend has the wedding itch to have it at Niagara on the lake. And C, for any of you listeners that are in Ontario who might be just like me, you think of Niagara Falls, you think of the haunted houses and all that crap. If you like if if you're a wino, then you that that's heaven for you. Right? Because they had we went for we went to a we went to a uh breakfast place Sunday morning, it was in a barn at a at a vineyard. Okay. Right? From the outside, it's like, well, where the heck are we? It's like supposed to be like 4.9 stars, and you walk in there, it's gorgeous. Really? The outside looks like trash, but the inside's all modern, all and there was there was so there were so many like bachelorette parties going on with wine tours and all that stuff. Reminds me of um reminds me of uh that Family Guy episode when they went wine tasting, right? Wine tasting, and Peter Griffin gets totally drunk and he takes all his clothes off. Like, Peter, you're not supposed to drink the wine. Just supposed to swirl it. Swirl in your mouth and spit it out.

SPEAKER_01 9:50

Well, that's right, Carter. Did you tell your son not to actually drink it? Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 9:56

No, so no, it was um oh, I'm thinking of Cape Cod. Oh, Cape Cod, yes. That's what I'm thinking of. Cape Cod kind of feel under mind you, I've never been to Cape Cod, but just based off videos and photos, even movies. Gotcha. Right? It feels like do you remember the movie The Wedding Crashers?

SPEAKER_03 10:14

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 10:15

Right? With uh Vince Vaughn. Vince Bond.

unknown 10:18

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 10:18

So remember after the wedding, they got invited to go to the family's house or something. The family's uh vacation home. That's the kind of feel it had. Really? That style of homes, and yeah, it was it was you can rent bikes and honestly, if I were to take photos and eliminate all the signs and all the all the license plates off the cars, right? Unless you've been there, I guarantee you wouldn't you wouldn't think that that was Ontario. Ontario. Yeah. That's the cool thing, that it's yeah, it's less than two hours away from home. Now, mind you, there are a lot of nice places in this province. I just that when I travel, I don't travel in my own home. You know? That's right. So, but in saying that, I'm dragging, I'm dragging here, but I highly recommend, especially if you're a wine drinker, Niagara on the lake, check it out. Uh, beautiful. Uh, today's drink of choice, it's a Friday. It's been a long week. So I actually have three. I have a Tim Hortons, dark roast, coffee, I have a bottle of water, and I have a Diet Coke. Well, I'm just Tim Hortons in water, so. I'm trying trying to survive. It's been a long week. A lot of sun. Um, and for someone who works outside, if you know what is it? It's too much vitamin D, right? The sun? Well, vitamin D, you can never get enough. So I'm gonna start off this episode. Um, so a white guy walks to a bar, and um he sits down beside a black guy. Alright. And his white guy, out of his pocket, pulls out a mini piano, puts it on the bar. The black guy's looking very interested. The white guy goes in his pocket, pulls out a little man, puts him beside the piano.

SPEAKER_01 12:07

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 12:08

And starts playing the piano. So this is a live guy. This is a live. It's happening right on the bar. Little little little little small like a like a figurine. Okay. Okay. Play the piano. Beautiful. Like, amazing. Whipping up and down the boat. 100%. The black guy turns to the white guy and says, Where'd you get that? Like, what is this? Like, what's going on? He said, So the white guy responds and he says, Oh, just outside down the street, there's a genie there. And he grants it my wish. So the black guy's like, Frank, I want to do the same thing. So the black guy gets up right away and he goes, um, goes to the genie. Twenty minutes later, the black guy walks back into the um bar. Into the bar, and he has a whole bunch, and he's surrounded by a whole bunch of ducks. Okay. So the black guy goes to the white guy and said, What are you talking? Like, what's going on? What is this? He said, I asked for, I asked for a whole bunch of bucks. A million bucks. And here you go, and I got a whole bunch of ducks. Ducks. Oh. So the white guy turns to black guy and he says, Do you really think I asked for a 12-inch pianist? A pianist. Oh no. I saw that online. I'm like, oh, that's gonna be that's something I have to share. Oh. But moving on. So I wanted to bring up, like I said, we have two main stories we're gonna tackle this episode. Um, one that's in the U.S. and one that's overseas. But before we do, I wanted to touch on the story about uh, I don't know if you heard about this, but it's big controversy going on in France right now. Okay. Okay. So there was this, and guys, keep in mind, I I might read the article sometimes, but most of the time I'm just paraphrasing it. So I always recommend you go back and get the full story if we don't actually tackle the full thing. Um, but for this one, so there was basically there's a lot of issues going on in France right now, to the point where even the prime minister is involved in this story. Okay? Alright. So there was the murder of an 11-year-old girl that happened in France this past week. Alright. And the principal suspect, um, long story short, he's a 41-year-old man named Jerome B. I guess they don't have his full his full last name. And he's actually good friends with this guy, with his daughters, with this girl who's murdered now, 11-year-old, with her father. So he's a family friend. Sure. She went missing. Okay. Then they found her. 11. 11 is 11 years old. Oh boy. Witnesses actually saw this man and the girl in his car at school. So she probably went to he probably went to the school and said, hey, your dad told me to pick you up or whatever. She knows him. She's familiar. She's not a threat. Here's the problem. Okay. So I'm gonna I'm gonna read this from the article. Amid the shock and grief, the affair took a political turn as details of Jerome B's police records were officially released by officials. Okay. He had been named in four separate cases involving young girls just in the past five years. Two of those cases were closed for lack of evidence. Okay. And the third, he would he was actually dismissed from his job as a maintenance worker at a secondary school for inappropriate behavior towards a teenager. But the fourth one, okay, because this is this is technically the fifth one, this murder. Okay. The fourth one is what really lit the fuse, which led basically led to all this controversy. He was Jerome, was the object of a complaint last August from the mother of a 10-year-old girl named Rosa, who said that she had been raped by him several times.

unknown 16:25

Ten.

SPEAKER_02 16:26

Ten-year-old. Oh my goodness. And this is what the article says. But shockingly, even though medical examination substantiated Rosa's claims, not once in the nine months since her family went to the police did Jerome ever get questioned. Why the hell not? That's the point. That's the problem in all this. She's ten. What does she have a she have a litany of lovers?

SPEAKER_01 16:56

What do you mean? Clearly something's missing here.

SPEAKER_02 17:01

Well, what's missing? So the French people is I'm reading this quote. The French people demand a reckoning. The president of the Hard Rate National Rally uh group, Jordan Bardellas, said, This terrible tragedy could have been avoided if the just justice system in France wasn't so dysfunctional.

SPEAKER_01 17:19

That's not dysfunction. Bro, well that's that's just that's that's I I don't even know what the what the category is. They haven't even questioned him in nine months.

SPEAKER_02 17:30

Now she accused him? She accused them several times, the mother did, and even the medical records, obviously they went, they did the rape kit, they did all that, and apparently it all it's all the article says that is substantiated her claims. So that she was violated. So she was clearly, yes, it wasn't a lie. She was clearly violated. At 10. At 10, and it happened more than once. Well, 10-year-olds have many sexual partners. Right, exactly. More than once. What the hell? And not once since they went to the police did this guy even get questioned by the police. So uh another quote by uh Bruno Ritalio, whatever it is, uh he's part of the conservative group there. He says, our justice system is a failure. It should be totally reformed. A society that is incapable of protecting its own children is a society which will one day start turning against itself.

SPEAKER_01 18:30

I'm just I'm beyond I'm be I'm beyond shocked. How is that even possible?

SPEAKER_02 18:36

President Emmanuel Macron Macron uh said it was clear that there had been failings. It is unacceptable. We cannot look Liana's family in the face and say that this was properly handled. Justice Minister Gerard Darmanin said that he was terrified by what had happened. Uh it is fair to ask why a man who was so obviously the object of suspicions was not kept away from youngsters? Why didn't no one act, even though for months there had been complaints against them? The Prime Minister has, and the article lines with this, the Prime Minister has demanded a report on what went wrong within 15 days.

SPEAKER_01 19:18

So my question to you is, how can this guy not be executed? You know what I mean? It's this this is sick. Like I'm I'm listening to this, and and look, folks, um, I I I'm a grandfather now. I've raised I've raised children, three of them were girls. Uh I I've watched my wife swaddle them and do all sorts of things. And and and and I'm I'm gonna go out on a little bit of a limb here. Any man that gets turned on by a baby or a uh or an 11-year-old girl, there's there, you know what, there's no hope for that. Yeah. I mean, how does he get aroused?

SPEAKER_02 20:06

Right.

SPEAKER_01 20:07

So that I mean that that's that's clearly a demonic uh spirit that either's uh it's it's it's it's definitely that that is execu um that is worthy of death. I mean that that girl, that 10-year-old, will never be the same. The 11-year-old, well, so she's dead. She's never she's dead, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 20:29

She's never gonna breathe. The family will never be the same after that. Oh, of course. You know? And and how in in in in in what world does this guy survive? I I the only thing I want to know, listen, I'm not I'm not blaming the father. I'm not okay, but you have to think about how much guilt he's going through right now. Well, did the father know? That's what I want to know. I want to know if they were still active friends. I want to know, like to me, there's more that nothing. At the end of the day, it doesn't matter. The 11-year-old girl was murdered. Okay. Well, yeah, that's but for me, it's like, I want to know. I'll put it this way. If the father was aware of all these accusations, and he was I'm a and he I guess he wouldn't be because it would all be police records about the whole ten the 10-year-old, right? Yeah. But if he had any inkling of his friend being like this, right? But you you would think he would have to know about the high he got fired from the high school for being inappropriate to our students.

SPEAKER_01 21:36

Even a bad father wouldn't allow his daughter anywhere near.

SPEAKER_02 21:40

So I just that that's why I wonder if they were actually still friends, if there was more to the story. There's gotta be. You know, because for a for a father to still be friends with that guy, still allow that guy over to his house, I mean, shame on you. I'm not blaming him. Right? Because, like I said, he could have no idea.

SPEAKER_01 22:00

You know, but if he did know, then then the onus would have been on him.

SPEAKER_02 22:04

That's where it's like, I don't want to blame him, but I kinda want to.

SPEAKER_01 22:07

Well, if he knew, if he knew this guy was a sick sick puppy. Yeah, I was gonna use the sixth letter of the alphabet, but I better be careful.

SPEAKER_02 22:16

Um No, that's ridiculous. Reminds me, you just said that. Reminds me my buddy, I'm not gonna say his name, my buddy and I we were in the car once you were on the phone with a I think it was with like a eavesdrop company or one of those call one of those people that call cold call and you said sixth letter of the alphabet, and at the same time we both with our hands went A, B, C, D, E, F. Oh, that's yeah, but that's crazy.

SPEAKER_01 22:42

Yeah, that that's that's wild. Yeah. I I really I uh I kind of regret you telling me that because I'm gonna be up tonight. That's crazy. And not and the cops didn't question him once. Not once. Wow.

SPEAKER_02 22:57

But what's wor okay, let me ask you this. Let's let's relate this back to America. All right. And for for those of you who are new listeners, whenever I say America, it's basically Canada. It's almost the same thing. Uh to a certain point. But think about okay, this guy wasn't actually convicted. Okay? The guy in France. He was never convicted. He was never questioned for that rape of the 10-year-old, okay? But when he was accused. When he was accused. Yeah, dude. But think about the last bunch of murders that we've seen from all these convicted criminals that were released from prison in the States. What's the difference?

SPEAKER_01 23:41

Well, really, there is none.

SPEAKER_02 23:42

Right? And it's just you see, and the reason why I say that is because you see this pattern starting to happen where the corrupt, you know, and then we we we were talking, what was it? We were talking in the car a couple days ago. I forgot what it was that triggered you, but there was something that happened this week, or something that you read, maybe it actually has to do with with what we're gonna talk about later, and you said that, you know what, now finally you you you will admit that you have to to agree with the Democrats' policies and their behavior, you have to be demonic.

SPEAKER_01 24:17

Yeah, that's right.

SPEAKER_02 24:18

You know, like to make no sense. Like, you see all those vic the all those victims who were raped and murdered. You know what? Put put put the illegal immigrants aside for a second. Even the Americans who have all those records, all those murders, all those rapes that are being released from prison. And what do they do? They go back and rape and release. And rape and rape and uh murder.

SPEAKER_01 24:41

And pillage.

SPEAKER_02 24:42

You know? And that also makes me question the whole judicial system, the whole prison, sorry, the whole prison system, because prison is supposed to be reha rehabilitation in a way. Right? That's that's that's that's that's their selling point. That's how they get their funding. We are re rehabilitating these inmates so they can eventually go out and be better human beings in society. But yeah, you would but if this is a constant pattern over and over and over and over again, you know what? Say it's unchristian if you want to. That's cool, call me out. I don't see it. Then to me, there's no value of their life.

SPEAKER_01 25:21

Well, no, not if not if they're doing you know, I I really used to like the uh the three strikes rule. This is about 20 20 years ago. Even during the Clinton era, uh 30 years ago, and it was uh uh you know, if third conviction, you're done. You're you're they lock lock you up and throw away the key. Right. What's wrong with that? You see, and and and and and it's really funny that um the way the prosecutions are going, and uh like uh I know you you hate when I watch sometimes I watch some of these uh YouTube videos of you know these guys coming home and their wives are with other guys or they catch their wives cheating. Right, and so they confront the wife, and the and the fact that she cheated is not the problem. No, no, you dare look at my phone, and he's the bad guy. Right. Whoa, lady, stop, stop. Wait, you're cheating on me. Yeah, yeah, but you have no right to look at my phone, you you you demon. Whoa, and and in the same realm, the guy killed two people. Yeah, but he didn't get peanut butter at the age of six, or why did he kill them? Well, it you know, at some point, doesn't matter, they're dead. Yeah, and and it's getting to the point where the this modern psychology, whatever, uh it's it it's it's pure demonic. Yeah, pure demonic.

SPEAKER_02 26:47

That's the way I see it. It's funny, you say the word demonic, and the first thing that comes to my head is homosexuality. And oh geez. And uh Chick-fil-A came out with an ad. Um because it's Pride Month this month, June. Oh, jeez, that's right. Yeah. And I know we don't have any listeners, but just in case, happy Pride Month.

SPEAKER_03 27:06

Oh, yeah, oh yeah.

SPEAKER_02 27:08

Uh they came out, they came out with an ad, and it says um it's a photo, a photo of a burger, the chicken burger, and it said, our pickles don't touch the way it should be. Oh, nice, nice. Well, yeah, no, that's that's yeah, it's scary. It's 11 years old, just like that. 11. Wow. Yeah, and you know what? Well, now I guess now that the Prime Minister is involved and everything, it's they have no choice but to throw the throw the book at this guy. But I bet you if this wasn't a national story, eh, what, 10 years, he'd be out again. If that. Probably less. That's my point. You know, it's it's it's such a listen, there are, we've we have brought this up before. Uh, we're not gonna we're not gonna go into detail, but to me, there is value for capital punishment. Yeah. Yeah. You know, I am a firm believer in capital punishment, and you'll never never be able to argue against me on that. You know what? Harm, touch a child, you're you're dead. Uh that that's that's the way I look at it. Well, it's like I said, like I said, I remember my exact words from the previous episode. It might have been like episode five or six. We talked about it. The thing is, though, is that this guy in France, okay, especially France, um, once he's imprisoned, he's not gonna make it out in life, anyways. Especially once they find out that Chilton he murdered a child, and he's known to have raped another one before. Yeah, he's not gonna like like I said before, Big Bubba's gonna be after him.

SPEAKER_01 28:49

He's gonna be Baba's girlfriend, that's it.

SPEAKER_02 28:50

Oh, he's gonna be, yeah. He's gonna be stretched from the east to the west. He's gonna be literally uh second second quick story I want to talk about. Um very interesting. How do how do I how do I word this? In your opinion, what would be, I don't know how to say this, the in your in your opinion, the most dangerous let's say I told you you have to get from point A to point B somewhere in the world. Okay. What would be like the most dangerous areas that you would think of? So I'll give you an example. To get to one side to the other side of the Amazon uh jungle. Okay. Probably very dangerous. Sure.

SPEAKER_01 29:36

Okay. Well, it depends in what way you you're traveling.

SPEAKER_02 29:41

By foot. You know, by foot or even the ATV dirt, whatever. But either way, it's just dangerous. Amazon would be uh Amazon would be up there. Sure. Okay. Baltimore. Chicago. Yeah, I guess, yeah. Downtown Chicago. Um what's what name what's another one that you can think of the top of your head? Well, Harlem for a white guy is not safe. Okay, I'm thinking more like worldly, yeah. Oh, world. Okay.

SPEAKER_01 30:03

Um you know what? The American, the American cities are bad. I mean, they're worse than Afghanistan or Pakistan or these other stands.

SPEAKER_02 30:11

I guess another one that sticks out with me only because you would literally get shot is trying to get into North Korea.

SPEAKER_01 30:17

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 30:18

Yeah, of course. Okay. But another big one, alright, is doing the trek and trying to cross the Sahara Desert. Yeah, that would be Okay. Yeah. So there's a story that came out. At least 49 people have died of thirst in a remote part of the Sahara Desert in northern Niger after the truck carrying them broke down. Wow. Okay. So I have a map here. So they were traveling from Mali across the border through Niger to get to the top to a small to a small town called Asumaka, where it crosses into Algeria. Okay, yeah. I know Nigeria. So they went, they were going right across. So they got there safely. So it's basically they called it the actual term, I've never heard of it. It's called a lorry. Well, that's what that's what they call trucks in England. Oh, well, okay, okay, okay. Well, it I am on BBC, so that makes sense. Yes, yeah, lorry is it's a truck. So it's a it's a big truck, and in the back, it it has a big cover, and a bunch of people were in there sitting. Okay. Alright. So it was a bunch of Muslims. They were basically going to uh celebrate the uh what was the holiday called? Yeah, so the group were returning from Mali where they had attended celebrations for the Muslim festival of Eid El-Ada, whatever. Whatever. Okay. Okay. So they've already did their religious. So they're going back home. Okay. Alright. Here's the problem. The truck broke down. It happens, yeah. Okay. They couldn't fix the truck. Only two people survived. But it's a highway though, isn't it? It must be a remote. But it was it was a remote. Okay. So there was nobody else. So they were. I'm trying I'm scrolling, I'm just quickly scrolling through the article here. Uh they were trying to repair the vehicle. Uh I know it was days because they took like three days trying to fix the vehicle before they even started to walk. Oh my goodness. And a lot of them died there. And then even along the walk, right? Also they started walking. They started walking. In the desert. In the desert with no water. Oh, that's smart. Right. My computer's glitching like crazy right now. I don't know what's going on. Iran is attacking. My fat fingers? I can't scroll right now. Um, I'm frozen. Oh, that's not good. Anyways, yeah. Anyway, so yeah, so they they were oh, there it is. Uh they ran out of water, stranded more than 80 kilometers, so 50 miles, west of their location, Aslamako. Oh, okay. Right. So they were 50 miles out. They were 50 miles out. Oh. So two people survived. Okay. And they got got a hold of authorities finally. So authorities came, the army, all that, they came, they came back. Um, and as the rescuers, because they they ended up with all those bodies, they just dug a big grave and threw everyone in there. Well, at this point. But as they were going back to rescue, I guess they had helicopters and all that, whatever, they actually found another lorry full of 60 people that the car also broke down. But they they were all they were all okay. It just didn't happen too long. Okay. So I guess I guess the remote desert is so wide and so big that you could be remote for a while and not see anybody. Sure. Right? So luckily they all survived, but fortunately, these people, only two survived. How many died? 49. Wow, that's a tragedy.

SPEAKER_01 34:17

Yeah. What a way to go.

SPEAKER_02 34:20

Too, like dying of thirst and heat. Well, there's one way to get rid of the Muslims. I guess we just send them all the Sahara Desert. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 34:30

I um there was this comedian, uh, his name was Sam Kinnison. I've heard I've heard of that name. Yeah, he he he was an interesting, he died in '92, but um he had an interesting, interesting take. Um, I could tell you about it, but I would say, you know what, just listen to him. He's a little loud. Uh but uh and he he discusses the uh the the desert part about world hunger and all that. It was very interesting. You know what? Go on YouTube and just uh type it in. You gotta listen to it. Well, what is it? What is it? Samkinison Sam Kinnison. World Hunger. World Hunger. I don't know, they'll probably the clip will probably come up. Yeah. Okay. It's about it's about five minutes long, and it it I I think it's hilarious. Okay. And by loud you mean like swearing. He does swear, not as much. He does, he'll drop a few F bombs here, but he he like yells. Oh. And it it it's but it's perfect timing. It's uh like he'll tell a guy uh there was one uh one situation where a guy he was engaged and he goes, Sir, you're engaged, huh? You're gonna get married, yeah? Look, look at me, look at me. Okay? You you watch him? And then he yelled, no, don't do it. But it's it's just funny.

SPEAKER_02 35:48

Who's that one British comedian? Oh, he's so funny. Somebody asked him, he was not he this was like not Jimmy Carr, is it? I think that's who it is, actually. Okay. There was that one. You just said world hunger, so it sparked my my sick mind. Um but there was that one, he was being interviewed, maybe like 10 years ago now. All right. He was on a panel and someone asked him, what's like the worst joke you've ever gotten. Oh, one of those, yeah. That could have been Jimmy Cark. And he basically said, if only we could have more mosquito nets in Africa, we can protect the mosquitoes from getting AIDS. Yeah, I think that's a good thing. Or something or something like that. Yeah. Something sick and perverse. But the thing the thing I enjoy about, uh we're gonna move on here, but the thing I enjoy about comedians, especially nowadays, is the fan interaction and how quick they are. Yeah. Because none of that is scripted. Well, yeah, they're very witty. Right? Like there's a one guy, he's a younger guy, he's kind of fallen off a little bit, in my opinion. To me, he's not as funny as he once was. There's a guy named Matt Reif. Okay, young kid. All right, and he's always the fan engagement. It's it's it's it's really it's it's really funny. But we're gonna move on. Uh first big topic that we're gonna talk about today. This is what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna say a name. Okay. And you probably know where I'm gonna go with this because it's been in the news. Oh, alright. Interesting. And I just want to hear what your opinion is on this guy.

SPEAKER_01 37:22

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 37:23

And then I know you know, I don't know, but I know you know what's going on. Uh, the name is Nick Shirley.

SPEAKER_01 37:32

Oh, that guy's a hero.

SPEAKER_02 37:33

Right, Nick Shirley.

SPEAKER_01 37:34

So, what's your opinion on Nick Shirley? Nick Shirley, I think he's got brass cajones. He went, it was actually Nick Shirley that exposed Minnesota. That's right. That then now, now he's exposing California. California.

SPEAKER_02 37:49

Who's next? So, for those of you who don't know, um, a couple months ago there was that huge, huge, I guess you could say scandal about the whole daycare system with all the Somalians in Minnesota. It's criminal, not just scandal. I guess I guess it is criminal. And he exposed it. Yep. Right? It was just him with the hidden camera at first, but then it was not hidden anymore. And he would go around to all these daycare systems. The leaning centers. That's right, the leaning centers, yeah, that's right. And then the next day they changed it after he corrected them. And basically, long story short, like you can look into it. The Somalians, they were funneling millions and millions and millions of dollars into day, put a B on that into these daycare systems or daycare centers, I should say, that had no children. Right. They were running daycare centers, getting paid millions and millions and millions through government funding. And food. Don't forget the food. And the food for the children, grants for daycares, but they weren't technically a real daycare. They had no children there.

SPEAKER_01 38:54

Right.

SPEAKER_02 38:54

So he exposed that. I mean, the left is still gonna claim that it wasn't all accurate, whatever, whatever. Evidence doesn't lie, facts are facts, uh, facts over feelings. I'm sorry. So now he's coming out and he's exposed a lot in California.

SPEAKER_01 39:12

Yeah, I do know this story.

SPEAKER_02 39:14

Okay. Um, help me out here. I'm trying to find the I it was oh, here we go. So with California, it was the whole hospice investigation.

SPEAKER_01 39:24

Right.

SPEAKER_02 39:24

Right. And it went pretty viral. And it got to the point where he actually exposed it enough where uh state and federal law enforcements actually suspended hundreds, not five, ten, twenty hospices, hundreds of hospices, um, and also home health agencies that were suspected of misappropriating millions of dollars. Oh, the the the term is corruption, right?

SPEAKER_01 39:57

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 39:58

So it's basically Minnesota all over again, but instead of Somalians and daycare systems, daycare centers, you have actually I don't even know. You just have in general, just the health, the health, the healthcare system. Right. Yeah. Right? So they're funneling all this money, and you know, you know, Gavin's involved.

SPEAKER_01 40:21

Well, he would have to be because, see, they're they're billing, they're billing the federal government. Exactly. The federal government doesn't question because the state didn't question it. That's right. Now, if the state questioned it, then the feds would go, whoa, whoa. Right. So the fact that Minnesota, now, when you say uh now to the listeners here that are sharpening their knives to throw, uh, the reason uh it it's called the Somali scandal is because like I think it's 85 85% or something is by the Somalian community. Yeah, that's why they're picking on the Somalians. So it's not like you say, well, that's racist. No, that's fact. Yeah. So just just so we're clear on that. Okay, go sorry, go ahead.

SPEAKER_02 41:06

No, and I and I was just and I was just gonna say so you I like what you said about the whole the state and the federal. Yeah. If the if the state's not questioning things, then why would the federal, right? Um let me ask you this. Why isn't the state questioning this? Oh, that there's one simple answer to this.

SPEAKER_01 41:26

Oh, because they're on the kickbacks. They're on the kickbacks, 100%.

SPEAKER_02 41:29

Millions. Let's put it this way. If the hospices and also the health agencies are getting millions and millions of dollars, you know the kickbacks are probably even more than what they're getting. Oh, yeah. You're telling me Gavin is not pocketing millions and millions of dollars from this?

SPEAKER_01 41:46

Uh, but you see, here's the thing. If you remember at the beginning of Trump's uh uh administration, the second administration, remember Doge? Yeah. Okay, so now here's the problem. That's the one that's the Elon Rand. The Elon, yeah. Okay, now they discovered they were doing um, you know, transgender surgeries in in you know, Slobovia or whatever. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. Now, why are the Democrats so pissed off? That's their funding. Right. They're not actually doing that, they're not actually spading and neutering cats in in Swaziland. They're not. They're taking the money, but they have to bill it to something. Exactly. You see? So they bill they bill stupid things like, you know, uh, we're gonna circumcise uh 20,000 guys in uh in Uganda.

SPEAKER_00 42:40

They didn't circumcise one!

SPEAKER_02 42:43

Let's let's let's pause for a sec. We're gonna pause the next Shirley story. I just pulled up. Okay I'm just gonna read this. Okay. Okay. Elon Musk's Department of Government Efficiency, Doge, exposed various instances of government spending and bureaucratic red tape, leading to sweeping controversies, audits, and lawsuits. The most famous and bizarre highlights from Doge's investigations include.

SPEAKER_03 43:13

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 43:13

Okay, and I'm just saying this because you said how crazy some of them were, right? The Pigeon Wi-Fi and Rock, Paper, Scissors Act. Doge exposed alleged niche research grants such as $3.5 million in budget for training pigeons to deliver Wi-Fi signals and a 1.8 million study examining the psychology psychological effects of losing on rock, paper, scissors. Oh, for the love of God. Oh, Lord. Uh, another one was the feline FaceTime. Publicized findings revealed government spending of $2.3 million on a study exploring whether cats prefer prefer Zoom calls over FaceTime. And $400,000. Dollars yearly research if ducks enjoy classical music. If that that's you this is real.

SPEAKER_01 44:07

That's actually in print. This is real. This is off of the Doge website. You know what? The fact that I'm not dropping F bombs right now is like, what the are you serious?

SPEAKER_02 44:17

There's there's there's there's there's a couple more. Uh budget bloat. Records published by the initiative pointed out $20 billion was wasted by the EPA, thousands of dollars spent by the Pentagon on individual coffee cups and soap dispensers and funds that were tied up in foreign aid.

SPEAKER_00 44:36

Amy, you know what? You would have to be frickin' insane to oppose this stuff.

SPEAKER_01 44:42

Yeah. So so so because Elon Musk and his boys discovered that, what was the what was the result? People started burning uh Tesla. Teslas. Yeah. Because he exposed this stuff. But now, do you honestly think they were studying ducks and this? No, no, they were taking the money, but they build it to that stuff, and that's why now the Democrats are in trouble because they need they need some sort of income source. Yeah. And now Trump is finding all this. Now this Nick Shirley is exposing all this stuff, and now the Democrats, and again, my opinion, just based on what I see, the demoniacs are in trouble. Yeah. They're exposed. What exposes darkness? Light.

SPEAKER_02 45:39

Yeah. And he's part of the part of the doge section, too. Wow. Um, so here's one. Apparently they discovered that nearly $500 million from all this wasteful thing actually went towards Biden's administration for environmental justice advisors. Oh, of course. Advisors. Advisors. Yeah. Uh $50 million to a coalition that included an immigrant justice group that pushes voters to register for traditional democratic leading demographics. All right. There's some crazy ones here. Um 2.1 million so that the BBC can strengthen a media ecosystem in Libya.

SPEAKER_01 46:20

Oh Lord.

SPEAKER_02 46:21

Uh 7.9 million to a project that would teach Sri Lankan journalists to avoid binary gendered language.

SPEAKER_01 46:30

Oh, yeah, in Sri Lanka. Yeah, okay. Good luck with that.

SPEAKER_02 46:34

There's there's some SBS. Uh 6.3 million to men who have sex with men in South Africa. 8.3 million for USAID education, equity, and inclusion. Oh Lord. Uh there was they found 16.8 million that was sent supposed excuse me, supposedly sent to Vietnam for inclusion training. Inclusion. Like they need that. Okay. Uh this is this is a funny one. 15 million for oral contraceptives and condoms in a Taliban-controlled Afghanistan. So not only was Biden supporting supplying Taliban weapons, he was supplying them condoms.

SPEAKER_01 47:16

For oral support.

SPEAKER_02 47:18

I don't want to draw you into pictures. Anyway, let's go back. Let's go back.

SPEAKER_01 47:22

I just wanted I just wanted to point that out. So that that's in the beginning. Now it grew into this.

SPEAKER_02 47:30

Yeah. Wow. Yeah. And you know what? And I tip my cap to someone like Nick Shirley. He was actually, when was it, a month ago? He was in Cuba on vacation. Right. He saw this. Yeah. And there were people threatening to kill him. Yeah. And they had to call the US whatever consulate or whatever it is. I think it was Cuba or Dominican, one of the two. I think it was Cuba. It was Cuba. Yeah. And he was in danger for his life. So, anyways, the reason why we break Nick Shirley up, the reason why we brought up Minnesota and we brought up what's going on today in California, what do the Democrats always try to do when they get exposed? Okay. They try to cover the truth. Well, yeah, that's what crooks do. That's what crooks do. What's one way of doing that? No, you can deny it. Sure. Yeah, but facts. But actual actual action to what can I what could I do if I'm Gavin Newsome to make sure that Nick Shirley shuts his mouth? Oh! You know what you can do? You could pass a law. You can pass a law. And that's exactly what California is. They're actually doing that. They are literally calling it the Stop Nick Shirley Act. Because he offended somebody? So I'm gonna read this. Introduced by the Democratic Assembly member Mila Bonnie Babanta, this bill aims to expand California's quote, safe at home program to include immigration support service providers and allow them to keep their residential addresses confidential. So you see how they're kind of twisting the language and masking the truth. The restrictions. This legislation includes a provision prohibiting private citizens from posting the image of residential addresses or personal information of designed immigration service workers online if the intent is to threaten or incite violence. See? And this is how the left swings it. They're claiming that by Nick Shirley doing all this, even in Minnesota and California, that they're claiming that he is gonna incite riots. He's inciting violence by doing what he's doing. Right? So they're hiding, they're trying to be like, they're trying to be like, whoa, let's try to cover up the truth. Let's accuse him of starting violence. When in fact they're the ones that are in fact when they're the ones that are the actual crooks. Violators could face misdemeanors of up to a year in jail and fines up to $10,000. Furthermore, a covered participant could file a civil complaint to demand the removal of content and be awarded a minimum of $4,000 in damages. So basically, if this law took place in Minnesota and Nick Shirley did what he did, okay, because you have to remember, the one thing that the media won't tell you is that with all of these daycare centers, right, whether they were, well, I mean, half of them were probably illegal, but those the Somalians, specifically the Somalian ones, those were their registered addresses. Right. Right. Right. So the I'm just reading this article, the catalyst, the Nick Shirley investigation. This bill was introduced following a series of viral investigative videos published by 24-year-old independent journalist and YouTuber Nick Shirley. Uh just like I said, I will read this anyways, uh, even though we mentioned this. Shirley traveled to multiple states, including Minnesota and California, using hidden cameras and on-the-ground footage to expose what he claimed were vacant ghost facilities and massive fraud networks operating within publicly funded and nonprofit programs, such as daycare centers and hospice care. His California hospice investigation went viral, uh, prompting state and federal law enforcement to suspend hundreds of fraudulent. Just like I said, his investigation actually led to a lot of these places being shut down. And how dare somebody find out the truth and call out corruption, according to the left. Here's the controversy and debate. All right. This bill has sparked a major First Amendment clash over free speech, investigative journalism, and watchdog reporting. Hear what the critics are saying. Conservative lawmakers like Assemblymember Carl DiMallo and journalist Nick Shirley argue that this bill is an authoritative measure explicitly designed to silence investigative watchdogs. Critics argue that legislation threatens citizens and journalists with costly financial penalties and jail time simply for exposing waste and fraud in taxpayers-funded organizations. The proponents, Assembly member Bonta, and Democratic supporters defend the measure as a necessary privacy safeguard, stating that it protects healthcare, legal, and social service providers who often work with immigrant communities from doxing, severe harassment, and targeted police violence. Sorry, political violence. Political violence. So basically, what the left is saying is A, they're not denying anything, but they're saying, and I I love how they use the word immigrants, because it's always going to be that fight about immigrants. They're saying, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Don't worry about what's happening. We need to protect these people because they're being harassed. That's more important than the fraud.

SPEAKER_01 52:57

Than the billions of dollars that is.

SPEAKER_02 52:59

But that's their mindset, right? So they're basically saying, like, we don't want Nick Shirley to do this again. We don't want him to go to go after these, the fraud that he is uncovering. So we're gonna turn the narrative and be like, bad man, he's evil, he's harassing these people, he's making their lives miserable, right? That's illegal. That's anti-American. Yeah, that's basically what they're saying.

SPEAKER_01 53:21

Well, you see, here's where I'm a little confused. Okay, because there's a First Amendment right. You can say whatever you want. Now, uh John, John Q, my name is John Q. Publick, and I live in, let's say, let's say Brampton, let's pick on Brampton. Okay, okay, and Nick Shirley comes to Canada and accuses me, John Q Publick, of 12345 Street in Brampton, Ontario, okay, of welfare fraud. If he does that, okay, there's not enough millions in his coffers that I'm not gonna sue him for if I'm innocent. You follow? Yep. So I kind of hope somebody calls me out because I'm not involved in anything like that. But if they say John Q. Public from Brampton, Ontario, uh stole five million dollars. Prove it. Prove it. So now with this law, well, no, no, let's let John Q public uh John Q Public's gonna get upset.

SPEAKER_00 54:27

Get upset!

SPEAKER_01 54:28

Because if he's wrong, you're then he deserves the punishment. Then he deserves to get sued. But they're protecting John Q Public. But John Q Public is giving money to these politicians, and now that that's stupid, that law.

SPEAKER_02 54:42

The only reason that they're they want this law to go through, okay, this bill to pass, uh-huh, is because it's true. Everything he's exposing. Well, clearly. That's the only reason why. Because if it was, I mean, okay, he accused the daycare centers. All right, let's have an investigation. Let's go. Let's do it. Let's see if he's wrong. And if he's wrong, then you know what? Then he should be jailed or penalty or fined or whatever. So they interviewed him on Fox News. I mean, not as right as they once were. They're kind of leaning in the middle more now, but you know, Fox is predominantly a right-wing uh news network. And they interviewed him. I forget which guy it was who interviewed him, and they basically they're asking him about the stuff, the the bill and all that, and basically Nick just said, like, well, I'm not too worried about the fines and all that, because I have enough of a following where I know those fines will get taken care of. Oh, 100%. Which is true. Yeah. He'll never have to actually pay any of those fines. And he even said, even if this blog gets passed, I'm still gonna do what I'm doing. Because here's the problem. What they're trying to pass is actually going against the First Amendment, First Amendment right. It's unconstitutional. So even if it gets fined, you know it's gonna be, you know Trump's gonna get involved.

SPEAKER_01 56:04

Well, if he if they issue a fine, he's gonna take it to the Supreme Court and they're gonna throw it out. That law, I'm gonna laugh at it. I don't really think, well, okay, they propose it, but will it pass? Or has it already passed?

SPEAKER_02 56:18

You know what? I I probably should have done more research on that. I don't know if it actually has passed or not.

SPEAKER_01 56:23

I I don't I if it goes against the Constitution, I don't think they can.

SPEAKER_02 56:28

Let me just look this up. Has the Nick Shirley can't spell Shirley Holy smokes.

SPEAKER_01 56:37

Law Yeah, I don't think I I don't think you can. Like, put it this way if a bunch of Muslims can't rent a park and call it Muslim Day in Texas, I'm quite sure they can't pass a law like that.

SPEAKER_02 56:53

So this is what uh my good friend AI says. No, the Stop McCurry Act has not fully passed into law. Officially known as California Assembly Bill AB 2624, the legislation passed the California Assembly on May 26, 2026, by a vote of 57 to 19. Wow. So 57 idiots. It has since moved to the state senate where it was read for the first time on May 27th and assigned to a committee. To become law, it still needs to pass the Senate and receive a signature from Governor Gavin Newsome. Well, Newsom is Newsome. That that so it pass it let's put this way it's on the trajectory trajectory to pass.

SPEAKER_01 57:35

Yeah, but the Supreme Court will shut that down right away. But I mean, but the but the audacity. I'm just trying to think. You see, in here, and here's where uh I I'm confused. Because again, growing up, I I remember like even my uncle in Florida, I would debate him all the time. He was he was pretty left. And uh the Democratic Party does not have quote unquote stupid people. I mean, some of them are like guys like uh Clintons and all. He's a road scholar, these are intellectual people, so they're they're it I mean, if they were you know uh mentally deficient or something, okay, I I would understand. Okay, hold their hands, they're drooling. But these are people with you know multiple letters after their names, yeah. And how they support this nonsense, uh how can it not be uh demonic? Right, it has to be, yeah, because common sense would tell you that you know, exposing fraud, good. Yeah, fraud, bad. Right, but now they're doing it exact opposite.

SPEAKER_02 58:47

Yeah, like like the good book says, what is good is gonna be bad, what is bad is gonna be good. But keep in mind, too, I wonder if you would agree with this. I might have mentioned it before. I I did see this online somewhere. They're saying that the Democratic Party of the 70s, 80s, and 90s would laugh and scoffle at the Democratic Party of today.

SPEAKER_01 59:10

Oh, 100%. Even JFK, people, people loved him. Yeah, he was he was a Democrat, but um a lot of he was America first. He was uh, you know, asked not what you can what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country. That's right. That was the that was the mentality of the Democrats of the 60s and 70s. I I remember a lot of uh really good democrats that uh that actually cared. These guys, they they want to break America apart. You see, what what these guys seem to forget, there was uh there was this book I read, and they were uh this was uh in Cuba in 1958, and these guys, this group, what they did was they helped the Castro regime take over Cuba. And as soon as the Castro regime took over, they rounded up these, I think it was like a hundred people, they rounded them up and shot them immediately. Right, and and the guy before he died goes, We helped you, we helped you. What are you why are you killing us? Yeah, because you're a traitor to your country, you'll be a traitor to us. So these morons, well, these highly intellectual people, they want communism to take over, they want uh, they want society to fall apart in this new world order because they're gonna be the heroes of the new world order. Guess what, folks? You're gonna die. The new world order is gonna kill you because you help them take over. Right. They can't trust you. I mean, it it's it's it's just it beyond beyond reason. Yeah. And and that, and there's gonna be if if America falls apart and the people that do take over, the first people that are gonna die are these Schumers and uh and uh what do you those weirdos uh in uh in California.

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Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:18

That guy that uh Feng Fing or Fan Fan was about to say. I mean, uh he's so insignificant, I forgot his name. Right, Swallow. You know. But that's crazy.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:29

That's it. So it's gonna be interesting to see um interesting to see what's gonna happen with this Nick Shirley uh act, if it's gonna actually pass. We'll we'll be following it. We'll we'll keep updated. But I do want to move on from Nick Shirley, because I do want to tackle this topic. Uh, and this is the one that we actually had a uh listener email in. Oh, okay. Okay. And basically, the listener emailed in, he's like, hey, did you hear about the the newest I can't breathe? So he put dot dot dot. He's like, probably not, because it's not national news, because the guy's not black. So and well, yeah. So there was a student, okay, his name was, and I say was, Henry Nowak. Okay he was, and I'm gonna say this, and it's not racism, it's just facts. He was a white guy living in Southampton. Okay, okay, in England. Long story short, there was some sort of an altercation, and he was stabbed four times by 23-year-old Vikram Digwa. All right, by his supposed Kerpan Kerpan, right? The oh, the Sikh colonial dagger. Yeah, that dagger that for whatever reason it is legal for them to carry around. Hey, religion. Okay. So uh it's it there's so much to the story. So basically what happened was the cops are called on the scene. Okay, and they found in this is all body cam footage. So it's not hearsay. This is all from the body cam footage. You can see this. You can see this. Okay. And he's on the ground lying, lying down. The cops come to him and he's saying, I can't breathe. I can't breathe. All right. The cops, for whatever reason, were just totally dismissing him. Okay? Not kidding. Get up, get up. They were dragging him, they picked him up, they were dragging him, doing all that. Little do they know, he had he was stabbed four times. Right. So they so they they dragged him after he was stabbed. I guess they didn't know he was stabbed, because he was saying, like, I can't breathe, I can't breathe, like I'm hurt, I'm hurt. Wasn't there blood? That's that's what I don't understand about. I never saw the body cam footage. So I'm not I'm not 100% sure. You know what? Let me read some of this article. Uh, the 18-year-old Southampton student was handcuffed after killer Vikram Digwa, 23, lied to police at the scene of the of the stabbing, claiming that he has been the victim of a racist attack. Footage released by the force with permission from Nowak's family showed him pleading. Oh, so he was saying, as the cops were there, um, I've been stabbed. I've been stabbed. So he told them. So he did tell them. And on the body camp footage, you can hear the officer replying, I don't think you have, mate. Novak suffered stab wounds to his legs and a fatal wound to his heart from a 21 centimeters blade, uh, so eight inches, a blade that Digwa said he carried as part of the Sikh faith. So, what injuries did Adigwa get?

SPEAKER_01 1:04:44

Doesn't seem like anything. Because he said uh racial attack. So, how did he racially attack him?

SPEAKER_02 1:04:51

Well, let's let's continue. Henry told officers that he could not breathe nine times in the video. Wow. He told them that he had been stabbed four times. Henry was pulled across the gravel, his hands were forced behind his back, and he was placed in handcuffs. He said the contrast between how his son and Digwell had been treated was unbearable. Henry should not have died on the streets of Southampton in police custody. In the footage, a police officer arrived at the scene and can be heard asking, What's your name, mate? Nowak, who was lying on his back on the ground, faintly, replies, Henry. As the video continues, Digwell steps into the frame. He claims Nowak had taken his turban off and grabbed him by the hair. The officer asked Digwell if he is injured, to which Digwall replied, Yeah, I've got a swollen eye here and a little bruise here. Officers then turn to Nowak, who can be heard repeating, I've been stabbed and I can't breathe, while he is made to sit up to be handcuffed. As the footage continues, the officer can be heard asking where Henry has been stabbed. He then adds, Don't think you have been mate. While being handcuffed, Nowak says, I can't breathe another three times. Okay. The officer can be heard. He says he's been stabbed, so let's just check him. He appears to briefly lift Novak's shirt around the belt area before he is left to lie on his side. A female officer can then be heard asking, where do you think he's been stabbed? In the face? A male voice responded, he has not been stabbed. Novak, who seemed unresponsive, is then told he's being arrested for assault. So the Novak, the white guy who was on the ground, who said he's been stabbed and said that he can't breathe, has been told he's being arrested for assault. I just want to know when when were the handcuffs taken off the other guy? Hampshire Police Deputy Chief Constable Robert Frank said that within three minutes of interacting with Nowak, the officers were starting to perform CPR. Oh, jeez. This is a complete tragedy. I'm sorry that they couldn't have saved Henry that night. I'm sorry that Henry was handcuffed and arrested as he lost consciousness. The pathologist who spoke in court was clear there was nothing officers could have done that day to save Henry. His wound was deep and internal, and the bleeding was extensive, but it was internal. Addressed in the comments, uh, Mahmood said the stabbing was an evil act, and she wanted to pay tribute to the powerful words of the Nowak family. She said the body cam footage was a disturbing and tragic thing to see. The IOPC will be equipped and encouraged to act to find the truth and to ensure, if necessary, that there are consequences, she said. But she said there was a dangerous undercurrent in how somehow reacted to this awful crime. Sir Kyre Strammer said that the father of a 17-year-old, uh, sorry, said that as a father of a 17-year-old, he felt sick watching this footage. He said there were searching questions for the police that are going to have to be answered. It is absolutely right that the police watchdog investigate this, he added. Reformed UK leader Nigel Farage said on social media that people should respond with pure cold rage to the treatment of NOAAC. In a statement, he said, Henry's family have responded to this in just the most extraordinarily dignified way, and claimed that Britain has two-tier culture where the rights and privileges of white people matter less than those of ethnic minorities. Conservative leader Kemi Badnock accused Farage of deepening division as she argued police should treat everyone equally regardless of race. Liberal Democrat leader Ed Davies said it was an evil murder made so much worse by the police response. On Tuesday evening, several hundred demonstrators gathered outside of Southampton police station, and that included far-right activist Tommy Robinson. I did see that on YouTube. You know what? It wasn't hundreds. It was thousands. Thousands. Yes. Around 40 police officers stood at the entrance to the building and in the surrounding areas. Police were later pelted with missiles as the protest moved to the street near Digwa's home. Wow.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:03

Now, was Digwa uh arrested? Yes, he was.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:06

And he's facing 21 years in prison.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:09

So what was I I still don't understand why the cops reacted like they did. Well, I think that's part of the issue.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:17

And this to me, to me, the reason why I think this needs to be a bigger story. Oh, and before I continue. Alright. So you you you mentioned it very faintly. I don't know if the audience heard you about what I said. I'm surprised the Kerpan is legal. Right? And you said you said religion. Religion. But here's the problem. The dagger that he used, right, was too big to be actually considered actual Kerpan. Even the Sikh community is coming out and supporting the I was gonna say white family. Well, yeah, it's what it is. To support the Nowak family, saying that that's not a traditional, that's too big. Right? And make things worse, when officers went to the house, the mother was, I I don't know how I like I said, I don't know the full, full details, but the mother apparently was hiding the weapon.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:11

Yeah, that's right.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:12

I that that that I did hear. Right. So uh the C here it is. The Sikh community has strongly condemned the killing and told the BBC worries about Digwell's behavior. Oh yeah, and he also had bad behavior in the past, had prompted them to, he was actually barred from places of worship in Southampton. Right. Right. Uh the Sikh Federation said the plate used by Digwa was not a Kirpon. Uh while the Sikh Press Association added, plans were in process to ensure every initiated Sikh in the UK was addressed directly regarding Kirpon rules and responsibility. In a statement, Digwa's family said they were deeply sorry for the pain and suffering the Nowak family has to endure. Uh we would give anything to turn back time so the path of both Henry and Vikram never crossed that night. We cannot change what has happened. We just hope that there's no further pain caused in its name. And then obviously they apologize to the C community, yada yada yada. Uh IOPC director Garrett Campbell said, We acknowledge that this case has raised questions about the actions of the attending officers, and we are aware that a few minutes of police body worn footage has been issued by the force following the conclusion of criminal proceedings. As part of our ongoing investigations, we are reviewing a large amount of police body worn footage, which we need to consider in context with other evidence we have obtained, including reviewing material presented during the murder trial as we establish the false circumstances. Digwa appeared in a Southampton uh court earlier alongside his father and a brother who are on bail. They each are charged with six counts of possessing an offensive weapon in a private place. Wow.

SPEAKER_01 1:11:54

See here, the the way the way I look at this, uh what's shocking to me is the fact that it was a Sikh guy. Now, the reason I'm saying that is like in my line of work and in my life, I have come across a lot of different ethnic groups. I've dealt with a lot of different ethnic groups, and one group that I can say that there's not too many douchebags, or I was gonna say eagles, but is the C community. Why? Because they are good people. Why? No, why?

SPEAKER_02 1:12:30

Well, their religion is they have to be. They have to be, that's part of their religion. That's right. And I and I and I agree with you because we always joke this is gonna this is gonna be racist. I'm just warning you now if you're triggered by racism, because in Canada, obviously, especially in Ontario, in the greater Toronto area, there's a lot of Indians. Yeah. Right? Indians, Pakistan, all all of them. The issues, and this is from a white person. I have never had not never had an issue with any Indians, to be honest with you.

SPEAKER_01 1:13:02

Right.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:03

Or I should say, I guess I can say they're not just all Indians, the Pakistan, India, all that. But the ones that have the turbans, they will go out of the way to help you. Uh-huh. That is true. It's the Indians that don't have turbines who are not Sikh, they're the Hindus. Right. No, no, it's true. They hit. It's just the way it is. Yeah. Right? Like, I have no issues. Uh call me racist if you want. I have no issues in dealing with Indians with turbans. Yeah. Because you'll get their respect. They'll respect you. They won't. I mean, they're I mean, they're tough bargainers. I mean, it's they are. It's tough. Because we both, in our in our both of our lines of work, we both dealt with them in negotiations, whatever. Yeah. But Indians without turbans, and this is gonna sound horrible, Indians without turbans, I don't even want to deal with. Yeah, because you had some issues. That's right.

SPEAKER_01 1:13:55

You know, there's just there's always there's always something. That's right. But you know, and that's what shocked me about this story is the fact that it's that it's uh a a Sikh individual, but that's why the Sikh uh community is in the Federation, yeah. Yeah, no, no, no, he's not one of us. Exactly.

SPEAKER_02 1:14:10

Yeah, as a matter of fact, they even barred him from one of their temples before. Wow, so this guy was a traumaker. This guy was troublemaker's a big pinway.

SPEAKER_01 1:14:17

But the but the story here is the cops' reaction.

SPEAKER_02 1:14:20

But this all goes back to the last two episodes. I know we've been all over all over Muslims and whatever, but this all goes back to race versus religion. Okay? Yeah. And to me, in my honest opinion, I'm not in the minds of those cops, okay? They see a brown guy. And they see a white guy. Their first instinct is, well, we don't want to be deemed racist. Right. So we need to make sure that we don't do anything bad to the brown guy, because if we do, we're gonna be racist. So let's just assume it's the white guy. Let's kick the biggest. Let's not care about the white guy because he's white. Yeah. And you're that that's the that's the scary part. It's the fear. You know, it's the fear of calling a spade a spade. It's the fear of saying, no, like, it doesn't matter what color you are, the law is the law. And that's what's gonna happen to America with these Muslims. It's gonna be like, it's the fear of no, no, you can do what you want. We don't want to get involved. Next thing you know, they're gonna take over or attempt to take over. You know? It's it's it's to me, if I bet you that they saw the brown guy, they saw the white guy, you know what? This brown guy, you know what? Even if the the Noah, the the the teenager, No Wak, even if he did uh call him racist things or whatever, whatever. Yeah. The fact that they responded the way that they responded, honestly, and I'm someone who backs the blue, I'm a big police supporter, family in the in the industry.

SPEAKER_01 1:15:55

Yeah, those are coward police officers. Well, aren't they charged with manslaughter? I I I thought I heard something. But you see, um with with this case, too. Um now it's possible the cops saw the uh oh, he's a Sikh. That can't be he can't be a troublemaker. But you see, now if this was a Muslim guy, I don't I don't think anything would have happened. They're scared of the Muslims. And and and and it's funny how people think that, and this is where I'm gonna get in trouble for saying this, but um it's it's in in their doctrine. If you don't accept Islam, then you're an infidel. And you can, and according to their you know, rules, they call they call it a religion, they can lie to you because you're an infidel anyway. They have rape gangs, while they're infidels. So you can legally, under Sharia law, legally rape women that are not Muslims. You can do that. You can kill people that are not Muslims. They're infidels. That's not a religion. That's a that's a political way of behaving to take over. So if if I'm wrong, if there's any uh imams listening, you know uh send an email and tell me at what point was I incorrect. Because I uh it's it's getting to the point where, okay, guys, enough is enough. Back in the 80s, I I think I mentioned this last time, Salman Rashdie wrote a book called The Satanic Verses. It's satanic. Period. Full stop. And they want to get their rights our religious right. Islam is not a religion. Right. That's that's my opinion. Okay, I can I still have one in Canada. We're not communists yet. So uh I would be very, very careful dealing with uh Islam.

SPEAKER_02 1:18:20

So I'm I'm just just just to close it out here. So I'm reading um, I guess the article that I have was was one from last week, but this is the most recent article. Okay. And basically the thing that is making people even more pissed off now, okay, so apparently Digwa, so he was he was sentenced to life in prison with a minimum of 21 years.

SPEAKER_00 1:18:42

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 1:18:44

So he claimed that uh Nowak was drunk.

SPEAKER_01 1:18:53

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 1:18:53

And he was yelling racially motivated things and stuff like that, but then apparently um it was found that Henry had alcohol levels way below the drink drive limit when he died. Um but the thing that's really pissing people off, which you mentioned, and now I can actually back it up uh on this on this article. So the cops are claiming that when they arrived at the scene, they assumed that Digwa was the victim. Wow.

SPEAKER_03 1:19:27

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 1:19:27

Okay. But Henry was in fact the victim, and more footage came out, more footage came out afterwards that apparently there was a trial of blood that was that was left behind him as he was trying to crawl away from uh Digwa after the stabbing. So it it makes me question the cops show up, they see a guy probably standing, let's assume. Okay. You see a pool of blood, a line of blood, because as his article states, that uh in investigations in the jury, they basically said that there was a clear line of blood that clearly indicated that he was crawling away from from the attack. Right. How do you not take his word seriously?

SPEAKER_01 1:20:18

So they still they see blood. They see blood. So that's even worse. Now now it does totally doesn't make sense.

SPEAKER_02 1:20:26

Right. And then the only way that the cops I mean, I haven't found anything about the cops being charged yet.

SPEAKER_01 1:20:31

I don't see anything there. I saw something on YouTube. I uh they were that's or the people that were protesting, they were losing their minds.

SPEAKER_02 1:20:40

But why but the only thing I don't understand, because the only thing that they did say is that no matter what the cops did, he was gonna die. That still doesn't excuse their actions. No, I don't know. But so basically what they're saying is that the same cops that put him in handcuffs is the same cops that were trying to save his life. When they woke up. I guess wow.

SPEAKER_01 1:21:10

You see, and that's just it. Now you look at Okay, you look at the other I can't breathe. Right. And it was clearly, the guy was clearly whacked up on drugs. He was a criminal. George Floyd was a criminal. Yeah, but you see, they never showed the other angle of uh, because from the angle of the footage when he was being pressed down. Right. It looks as if his knee is on his never on his neck, and that was, but they never showed the other angle. Yeah, and that was proven in court. That's right. And that cock got it, the cop was at the wrong place at the wrong time. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:21:51

And and and now you can see the other footage. But why how what was the actual cause of George Floyd's death? Well, he overdosed on fentanyl. Exactly. But no, they say no, no, no, no.

SPEAKER_01 1:22:01

He was uh choked to death.

SPEAKER_02 1:22:03

Why? Because they had to keep the it was all it's the whole racial, uh, what's it called? Well, the narrative. The racial narrative, exactly.

SPEAKER_01 1:22:11

But why? The law is the law. Yeah, okay, folks, again, and this is I'm quoting uh I'm quoting uh Ben Shapiro. And he goes, Okay, you tell me why 13% of the population causes 50% of the murders.

SPEAKER_02 1:22:28

Yeah, I think it's more than 50%.

SPEAKER_01 1:22:30

If it's more bad, you know, okay, that that's let's not be racist, but let's figure out what the hell's going on. Yeah. And and to ask questions doesn't make you racist. Well, but it does.

SPEAKER_02 1:22:43

It's not, it shouldn't. It shouldn't, but it does. And that's the problem. And I bet you that the fear of racism was in the minds of those cops. Had to have been. Had to have been. Yeah, yeah, because other people it just doesn't make sense.

SPEAKER_01 1:22:58

Doesn't add up. No.

SPEAKER_02 1:23:00

You know? But where where but but but but where's where's all the the news outlets? Where's all the pro, you know, how come we don't see this on CNN every night talking about it? Where where are the I can't breathe t-shirts for NOAAC? You know, where where where where is all that?

SPEAKER_01 1:23:15

I'll I'll tell you what's going on. There's a guy, now you mentioned his name, Nigel Farage. I think that guy is brilliant. He's like a Donald Trump.

SPEAKER_02 1:23:25

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 1:23:25

And he he's very conservative. Is he running? Yes, he's now. It's because of him. He was Brexit, actually.

SPEAKER_02 1:23:35

Oh, is that the guy with the weird hair? The long I don't know if he's his hair is weird, but think of somebody else. I don't know, but chubby guy?

SPEAKER_01 1:23:43

No, he's not chubby. Oh, okay. Nigel Farage, I think uh, if you look him up on YouTube, listen to some of this stuff. Brilliant man. Yeah, very smart, and he says, look, England, we have to worry about England. Yeah. Not uh, and uh he's very good friends with Trump, and uh and now he's he's doing well. Like I the people in England are saying enough is enough. Yeah, like it's getting at what point are we're gonna lose our country? Yeah, and and that's and uh that's why we have to watch Texas, we have to watch New York, California, all these. Um and it's gonna it's gonna start coming out that uh and again I said this uh a few minutes ago, Islam is not a religion, it's a way of life to take over countries. And if you look at if you look at it, if you do your uh studying, like I I even watch some of these shorts and uh they're having debates. He goes, No, you guys are murderers. And if if if I don't accept your your way of life, you're either I'm gonna get taxed to death or I'm gonna die. Yeah. So there's it's not a freedom of religion, it's not a religion, but it's convenient to call it a religion so you can get away with all these things religious laws and all that. That's right.

SPEAKER_02 1:25:02

Yeah, the only this is gonna sound horrible. I don't want to say the only positive from this murder, but I think the only thing that actually gives me a little slither of hope. And like I said, I think a lot of this has to do with the kind of people they are, which are good people, is the fact that the Sikh community are totally condemning this. Yeah. Right? Like they're they're apparently I just I just read something that they're offering support for the family, the even this the one Sikh um temple in Southampton are providing meals for the family, like they're being very apology. They're being Sikhs, they're being good people, you know, and it's like, hey, one of us doesn't ruin all of us, you know what I mean? So to me, to me, I actually I actually I think it's amazing personally.

SPEAKER_01 1:25:46

But guaranteed, guaranteed that if the perpetrator was a Muslim, I did it for Allah. Abu Akbar, forget it. They would not, they would not.

SPEAKER_02 1:25:58

You'd probably get five years and he'd be out do it again six.

SPEAKER_01 1:26:02

I don't even think he'd get anything. Exactly. Because, oh, you're gonna put our guy in jail, you're dead. Right. That's and that's the problem.

SPEAKER_02 1:26:10

It's the fear. Yeah. Like no, like this is this tragedy is also now bringing everything back up with immigration laws, immigration policies, and I just hate the fact that it has to happen to the Sikhs, but you know, it's part of it.

SPEAKER_01 1:26:26

It's part of it. You know? Well, um, think of it this way: Trump is getting in trouble. Actually, there were uh, I forgot who it was, I think one of the senators or Congress person, whatever, was grilling uh Marco Rubio about um Maduro.

SPEAKER_02 1:26:43

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 1:26:44

And they're saying, how can you walk into how can you fly into invade another country and and this and that uh and kidnap their president? And Rubio goes, he wasn't, he was a fugitive. Yeah, exactly. You know, he was a fugitive, yeah. And yet, they something like this, nobody says anything, nobody does anything. Yeah, so it it's it it it it it it's time, it's time to to wake the hell up, guys. Yeah, you know, uh I just hope, like you say, the good nothing good about it, but at least uh the videos that I saw, people have had enough. Yeah now they're starting to really, really freak out, which is about bloody time.

SPEAKER_02 1:27:28

Agree. Agree. I'm not gonna talk about it now, but because we're closing. But if you really want if you really want to get pissed off, YouTube what happened in the mayor's office in New York to open up Pride Month. That's all I'm gonna say. For all you listeners, go go and see what happened in the near in the mayor's uh quarters uh to open up Pride Month this week. And you guys will I I personally laugh, but it's just it just shows you the direction that New York is going in. I'll leave it at that. And in closing, we're gonna close, we're gonna close. I'm gonna do, I'm gonna do, I'm gonna do, I'm gonna do a group a favor. Okay, we always close with a song, we always get recommendations. Because it's Pride Month, all right? I'm not celebrating Prime Month. I'm not celebrating Pride Month, but I'm gonna give a bone. Because I'm sure we have some, we have a listener or two that just listens to us and throws darts at us and is putting voodoo curses on us, and they're probably gay. Um so to you people, I'm gonna we're gonna close with a classic song that I'm sure many of you have danced to. So to end off the show, um uh well before I end the show, if you have any inquiries, any questions, any anything you want to get off your chest to us, whether it's good or bad, uh, any feedback, you can email us at thefamlybusiness.chat at gmail.com, thefamybusiness.chat at gmail.com. And to close it out, we have a classic. We're gonna bring you the YMCA. Happy Pride months, everybody.

SPEAKER_03 1:29:05

Lord Steve, it's understanding.