(SHOW EP15) PRS Match Directors Are Fighting Technology Now…

The hosts break down everything happening in the PRS world right now — from recent match results and Impact Scoring updates to major match predictions and behind-the-scenes stories from recent competitions.

They discuss new scoring system features, common match director headaches, shooter profiles, live scoring setups with Starlink, and some of the funniest moments from recent matches. The episode also previews the Parma Precision Rifle Rumble, including top shooters to watch, weather conditions, and predictions for who could end up on top.

Along the way, the conversation dives into:

PRS standings and qualifier updates
Match scoring improvements and issues
Live scoring setups at remote ranges
Shooter strategy and match prep
Wind conditions and course design
Match director stories and challenges
Weekend match predictions and favorites

If you enjoy precision rifle competition, long-range shooting, or hearing the behind-the-scenes side of PRS matches, this episode is packed with great stories and insights.

Transcript

SPEAKER_06 0:00

All right, we got a great show ahead of you guys. Uh man, I'll have a couple updates on where we're at with Impex scoring and the PRS site. We're gonna be going over our Parma precision picks with Brady Lamb.

SPEAKER_03 0:11

Will the defending college champ finish the match? Is the PRS ever gonna settle on a cartridge? Awesome. Stay tuned.

SPEAKER_05 0:27

What'd you get up to this past weekend?

SPEAKER_06 0:30

What'd I get up to? What do you uh what did we do? Baseball. Yeah. Which prevented me from going to Josh's match. He had a he had a cool match in northern Illinois. Um the winner of that was somebody I call Uncle David. Uncle David. Actually, my uncle, but he is David Wheeler. Oh, okay. I I sent David a uh congrats, and he's like, man, it was just like shooting in Kansas. I think uh I think Josh had some weather there at his match. Uh quite a bit of wind.

SPEAKER_05 0:58

Yeah, we had a match at uh Twin Peaks, and uh it was beautiful weather. What's beautiful for you right now? Uh sunny, good temperature. It didn't got up to about 80, I think, so a little warm, but uh pretty comfortable. We had uh had some wind that wasn't um wasn't rude, but uh but still presented a little bit of challenge.

unknown 1:26

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:27

And then Mr. uh Austin Bushman showed up and and uh did Bushman things did Bushman things and narrowly uh took away the win by one point by one point, yeah. From who? Nick Barnard. Oh man. Yeah. But it was it was a good fair result. I think it nobody was I did apologize to everyone at the end of the match that that Austin showed up. Not just not just for his shooting, but you know, just for his general presence attitude. Yeah. No, he was great. Always fun. Always fun.

SPEAKER_06 2:04

Did he did he shoot his Oki special or did he did he bring a different fire on there?

SPEAKER_05 2:09

Uh he he was shooting um he I think he said uh 25 GT with a with a higher round count barrel. Okay. Something he was just messing around with. Uh nothing not his primary match rig, but uh not a didn't show up shooting a right-handed AI or something silly like that.

SPEAKER_06 2:32

So the AI that he has, uh he has a A ATX um in sixth Creedmore that he took off the prize table from the Pro Series finale. That was, you know, we we walk in order of who uh in in match order, right? So he won the match, and he's like, I would definitely take that AI if it were left-handed. So we worked that out between AI and uh mile high, and he got a left-handed six creed ATX. Okay. Um yeah, it's a it's it's a cool rifle, man. I I have I have one here as well that we use for some marketing stuff, and um it's fun to shoot. I've I've not shot a match with it, I've shot uh you know, just pointing around at the range or whatever. Um I man, there's something about the AI action and the way that like when you send around and then like lock it down, and I you know it must be because it's got like nine lugs or something in there, but it just makes a freaking awesome sound. You know, the lockup sound is just awesome. Let's switch gears a little bit, talk about where we're at with standings. Um we uh a couple upgrades to uh impact scoring here recently. So uh we have a qualifier column in here now. So you can see who shot a qualifier and who hasn't. Looks like everybody in the top 20 has. Uh you gotta go down to 28th before you see somebody that hasn't shot a qualifier here. Um also, oh, I didn't mean to go back back. Let's uh look at Pro Series again. So check this out. Uh some functionality that uh came over from the PRS site that's now built into this. When you click on their name, you can see their past match results here.

SPEAKER_05 4:28

Well, hey, so that must have that must have just happened because I literally just had one of my shooters on Saturday asking about uh where this feature uh went and if it was coming back. So that's awesome.

SPEAKER_06 4:42

Oh, yeah, it's definitely coming back. Right now it just shows this season. Okay. And and when I talked to Bill about it today, and he's like, you know what, we're just gonna stick with this season until everything gets implemented. He's like, the last thing I want to deal with is people telling me, hey, I got a score from 2017, that's not right, you know, and like, okay, I'll stop everything I'm doing now to go check your score from 2017. Like, how about we we get this structural stuff right now? But um, what's also super cool about this, if you click there that, you know, the view the results from all of their Pro Series open stuff, the three yellow ones are the ones that count for your score.

SPEAKER_05 5:26

Ah, very nice. So is it just showing Pro Series right now for shooter profiles, or is uh the regional series on there as well? Well, that's a great question. Let's go back. Let's go back. Um, who's a big oh, how about Mr. Austin Bushman? Bushman, yeah. Should have at least one regional series match.

SPEAKER_06 5:45

Hey, there it is. There it is. So PRS Regional Series open, you all.

SPEAKER_05 5:52

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 5:52

Dropped one. Yep. So rank one. Did he drop he dropped five? Yeah, let's yeah, so you can you can dial in, look at the results. Yep, he dropped five. There you go. I love that his his uh handle is washed.

SPEAKER_05 6:12

He he That was so funny. He signed up for the match uh under a a pseudonym of uh Art Vandele, which uh apparently is a Seinfeld reference. Art Vandelay? Art Vandelay. Uh I didn't get it. I didn't get it, but a few people did. So I guess it was some sort of a yeah, Costanza played some sort of a it was a subcharacter. So then that turned into me uh changing his his name on impact for every single stage into something more uh absurd and more ridiculous. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The first uh the first change from Art Vandaly was Fart Vandal. Yeah. Very clear. It's like tur turdburglar. Yeah, something like that. And then um I can't remember what else there was. At one point it was Abigail. At some point I at some point I changed his name to something that started that didn't start with an A, so it messed up the shooting order, and his squad mates complained about that. So I had to stick with A names after that. Yep. Because I knew that at the end when I uploaded the scores, it was gonna just default it to his PRS number and an impact profile anyway.

SPEAKER_06 7:31

So it doesn't yeah, and so it uh and uh here's a good time for uh a public service announcement. And we've had a lot of um folks that you know have multiple profiles with a different email address or different name. Oh, it's it's email address is is is the key there. Like that is the social security number basically tied to that person, right? Right. Um and I I I'm guilty of this. I have um I have my shooter profile that I, you know, back in 2016 I I got for the PRS uh as a shooter, you know, not knowing that in 2023 I was gonna, you know, have a Ken at Precision Rifleseries.com email address. Um so I have I have both. I have my you know my personal shooter profile, and then I have my at Precision Rifleseries.com. And I actually I shot the Twin Peaks match under Ken at Precision Rifleseries.com, and that's a big no no. Like my policy has always been sign up for all these matches with my personal email address, right? So now I got matches on both profiles, you know, and Bill's like, what are you doing, man? I'm like, whoa, I just screwed up recently, you know, but sorry. Um that's actually a huge problem trying to merge all that data. And there's no easy way right now for an admin like myself or Megan uh or Britt Tinkup or Steiner, who's an admin, um, you know, to go in there and say, like, nope, nope, nope. I'm just gonna put the, you know, let's put their, let's put, you know, Austin Bushman's real email address in here, whatever. Now, we had somebody with six email addresses. Oh boy. Right. Um, and it turns out it's somebody that we really know, somebody we had on a show last week, and it's like, how did he have six email addresses? Morgan King. Yeah. You know, we figured it out. People adding him last minute, like, hey, I'm coming to the match, I'll bring you cash. And how do you add somebody in impact? Like, you need a name and an email address. So like it was like King Dickhead at gmail.com or you know, golden golden king at gmail.com, you know, just a bullshit email address in there. Uh PSA, don't do that. If you're a match director, get their actual email address. If they say, hey, can you just put me in the you know, register me, I'll be there, I'll bring you cash. The first question back should be like, whatever your email address is, that's the only piece of information that I need that's important. Yeah. What and I mark my words. All the match directors that hear this are gonna do it right except for Josh. You'll have to listen. I'll have to listen back on Thursday.

SPEAKER_05 10:28

We hear you know, we hear you and see you. Wow.

SPEAKER_03 10:31

You're here, beautiful boy. It's almost crystal clear. Hey, the things I do for you guys.

SPEAKER_05 10:38

I can uh I can smell I can smell the bandwidth from here.

SPEAKER_03 10:41

No, yeah you can probably smell the gas. Um, so I was running around. I was going to fill up the generator, spilled gas all over me. So I got the mini Starlink out the window right now on the roof. Got the gener generator out in the front yard. Powering the Starlink? Yes.

SPEAKER_05 10:59

Yep. Are you serious? Yeah. I actually can hear the outdoor. I can't hear the jitters. Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 11:07

Yeah, I can hear a little bit too. It's not bad. Uh you don't have like an outdoor owl you can just plug it into?

SPEAKER_03 11:12

Nope.

SPEAKER_05 11:16

Yeah, I I probably do actually, but um there's something there's something there's something kind of uh hilarious and ridiculous about having a gas-powered satellite, Elon Musk internet. He makes electric cars and running his internet on gas.

SPEAKER_03 11:38

Having issues with my computer finding my mic, so it's just running off my desktop. Beamer did too. I did too.

SPEAKER_05 11:46

You sound fine though. Yeah. You look good, you look better than you sound, so we got that going for us.

SPEAKER_03 11:52

Yeah, yeah. So I ran a speed test on my internet, and it was like 18 or 20. Uh and then the Starlink I'm hooked to now is 190.

SPEAKER_06 12:02

No, crazy.

SPEAKER_03 12:04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 12:04

Bouncing packets from you know, here to 50 miles up. Yeah. Noise. Yeah, it's crazy.

SPEAKER_05 12:13

We need like a um, we need like a uh a podcast Starlink kit that you can next day air to match winners that have shit internet.

SPEAKER_03 12:23

Uh so we uh we ordered an actual the big um the main Starlink for our house. It just hasn't came in yet, but we got the mini for the match, which is you know, hosted Saturday. And that worked fine. How did the mini work out there? It was good. Um our bottom section is what I'm most concerned about, and uh, you know, as wide as those five stages are, I'd put it right in the middle and everyone was able to get to it.

SPEAKER_06 12:50

No joke. Oh, all right. So end-to-end, how much like uh what kind of distance are we covering?

SPEAKER_03 12:55

It's probably only 100, 120 yards. So like 50 yards each way. Pretty good? Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 13:01

That's pretty good because the and you just use the the actual Starlink mini built-in router. I didn't have you didn't hook up a secondary.

SPEAKER_03 13:10

I didn't have an extender. I was panicking looking for one in stores like Friday night, and I didn't find anything I thought was worth buying. And I'm like, well, let's just let's go try it. And it worked. Hope it works, and it did.

SPEAKER_05 13:24

Perfect. We've got a Starlink. Um, I think Derek just bought it the other day for Cool Canyon. We won't be able to do live scoring with it, but we'll have it out there so that we can connect everybody to the match, sign everyone in as ROs and and uh and then upload all the scores at the end of the day.

SPEAKER_06 13:46

There I'll there is a Wi-Fi extender that might work. It's$125 on Amazon and it goes a long way. Really? A really long way. So you might be able to put that and just point it. It might work at Cole Canyon. Um maybe I'll drop that in the show notes before it's live. I'll just I'll put that up there for everybody. It's one that Bill Tin Cup recommended. Uh he uses it. I mean, he he he's hooked up a lot of matches with with Wi-Fi.

SPEAKER_05 14:18

So well, something I was a little bit worried about for that match because nobody has cell service out there except for like a couple of spots. Um I was worried I'm I'm a little bit concerned about if the password gets out and then everybody just is trying to log on and then we plug it up with too many devices, that sort of a thing. So I was planning on just using it on a Starlink? Yeah. You don't have to worry about that.

SPEAKER_03 14:46

No, so I I ended up taking the password off of mine and just letting guys free for all it and it it didn't have an issue. Yeah, Billy.

SPEAKER_06 14:54

How many shooters?

SPEAKER_03 14:56

Uh six.

SPEAKER_06 14:57

Bill's done this with like two 200, 250 connections. Really? People on it. So some of them even streaming the live feed from the match. Right. Yeah. With impact, even like uh cell phone signal, you only need like one bar, two bars uh of uh yeah, to upload because it's sending very little information. You know, it's it's ones and zeros for impacts or misses, you know? Yeah. Interesting.

SPEAKER_03 15:26

I was waiting for uh Bill to call me Saturday night. He's probably never seen so many edited scores on impact.

SPEAKER_06 15:38

Megan and Bill and I talked about this today. Did you? We brought it up to him, though. I mean he didn't know, but yeah, so I guess exp explain the the situation you were in during the match with your ROs, Josh. Because we you did it the beamer way.

SPEAKER_03 15:55

I did pretty much gave everyone full access to be an RO. And so anyone could pull out their phone and score. And they did a bad job, apparently. Yes.

SPEAKER_04 16:06

Well what happens when you have more than one person scoring the same guy at the same time?

SPEAKER_03 16:12

Well, so Bill said that's not possible because if someone's in there, well, it is possible, but you would have to overwrite someone and say, hey, I'm gonna make an edit, and it would be like common sense, like, oh, maybe something else is going on here. Um, but more what our issue was guys were entering scores for the incorrect stage. So we were on stage nine, and scores were going into stage four, which no one had even shot that yet. And so two-thirds of the squad put the scores in the wrong stage, and a third of the squad put it in the right stage. So now you gotta essentially copy and paste and and make all those edits as the MD and get everyone back on track. It it was really just uh a lack of paying attention in a sense.

SPEAKER_05 17:03

But yeah. I'm this pleases me uh on uh how much smarter my shooters must be than yours, because I've never had that happen before kudos to Kansas shooters, just kids. Kansas precision. Yeah, no. I think they just fear my they fear my wrath.

SPEAKER_03 17:23

So what's more Josh? Kind of ironic about that, though, is um I had two log stages. One was nine, one was four. Uh but stage nine was named Big Wood. Well, all they saw was a log in front of them they were shooting off of. And so they pulled up the log stage. Well, it's not the log stage, that's stage four, totally not even on the same part of the property. So I a little bit kind of made sense, but it's like, man, you just shot stage eight. Like it it you're on nine now. You didn't go five backwards, you know. I I don't know.

SPEAKER_05 18:04

Yeah. I don't even name my stages for regional matches. I just stage one through eight. But uh that that well, uh for match directors listening, that might be a good policy. Just stage one through eight. And you know on some of my previous comments of of impact scoring, I did uh manage to set up this match completely, built all the stages and assigned all the ROs while driving down the road. No traffic, clear country roads. I only swerved off the shoulder a couple of times. Everything was fine.

SPEAKER_03 18:43

Oh man. They tried to argue that um we should go back to tablets because that would just be easier. I'm like, you still have to click on the stage you're on. Yeah, I don't think that's any the same mistake would have been made, uh, regardless. So they'll they'll get used to it. This is I hope so.

SPEAKER_06 19:01

This is the way. This is the way. Um so I guess to catch you up, Josh, and anybody at home. Um if you click on somebody's profile now, so like Austin Bushman washed, um, you can come in here and you can see, you can click view all, and it shows all the matches they've shot under that series. You can filter different series here. Uh and the yellow ones are the ones that are counting for their score. If we actually back out here, go to regional series open. There was something interesting here I wanted to point out with Mr. Washed. Maybe saying Mr. gives him a little too much respect, I guess. Um February 14th, 2026, he shot a Clinton, Oklahoma match. And not doesn't count because it says PRS membership, not purchased in time.

SPEAKER_08 19:55

Oofta.

SPEAKER_06 19:57

Yep. Thank thankfully uh actually, and if you look here, active memberships, it shows he bought it on 3 2. Even bought a rim fire. Rimfire. Yeah. He didn't know how to spell rim fire. Probably not. You know, it's actually kind of ironic about that. I may have even given him his memberships for for for uh doing some work for us. That would have been maybe that. No, he would have bought it. I bet he bought it right after Clay's cartridge. Yeah, I don't remember. I bet he bought it right after Clay's because he he would have had a week to get it. So that would have been like six days after that match. Yep. Think of a deal.

SPEAKER_05 20:44

That's pretty that's pretty nice. And I I was literally about to bring that up and and ask about clicking on people's profiles and I should have waited, right?

SPEAKER_06 20:54

Keith Rudasil uh bought his look at that, he bought his November 24th last year. Good good on you, Keith. He knew he was gonna shoot this year. Yeah, some people just don't know. I bought mine pretty early.

SPEAKER_05 21:07

Oh, now here's another question is um are we gonna be getting the feature to uh search for shooter names and look up their profiles?

SPEAKER_06 21:18

Absolutely. Are we gonna be getting that back? One and you have a search search right here. So if I go beamer, you shot uh January match, right? Gravestone? Yeah. Wow, you did did exceptional there. I did uh look at it. I exceptionally uh participated. Participation, yeah. Um look at you though. Yeah. You know, right, second, third, fifth, seventh, nice qualifier. It's all right. Um so you can do that here. Uh if you know, if if you're in whatever series you're looking for, you can search for the name. Otherwise, and this is this is all right now, like so it's easier to release. New features to the web version, like just as soon as they're done, than it is to go through the app store and that whole process and get all that released. So uh for anybody who wants to see new features and stuff like that, the the website's gonna be up to date first and then it rolls down after a little bit of time to the uh to the app. Uh but here you go shooter profiles, you can view all, and then you can search here too. So there you go. Uh you know, it's I was astounded at how many wheelers. Wow. Uh I know, right? Uh here, it's like a David Wheeler. Maybe he bought a membership. We already talked about it.

SPEAKER_03 22:37

Oh. Man, all the seniors, but super senior Uncle Wheeler and uh super super senior. My old man taking top three.

SPEAKER_08 22:47

Davis third, right? Yeah. Andy. Yeah. Um yeah.

SPEAKER_05 22:55

So anyways, you can so is this um is this just through like uh PC or laptop browser, or is this mobile browser? Web browser. Web browser. Yeah, mobile browser.

SPEAKER_06 23:04

You can you can see it there too.

SPEAKER_05 23:05

Yeah. That's good.

SPEAKER_06 23:07

Yep.

SPEAKER_05 23:08

I see two Ken Wheelers.

SPEAKER_06 23:10

I do have two. We covered that already. One is one is my shooting profile, which has all my matches. There's another one. No. Oh my god. Yeah. That was from when I was a match director, and um I gotta get that thing killed. So okay. Anywho. Good deal. Yeah. All right. Let's um we're gonna we're gonna talk with Brady Allenson, or not Brady Allenson. Brady Allenson is shooting Brady Lamb and Jay Homer's match this weekend. Um why don't we have a couple here, Ken?

SPEAKER_03 23:44

Do you? Yeah, we gotta move this later. You're eating up my good shooting daylight time right now.

SPEAKER_06 23:50

No, dude, you're telling me it's uh 70 degrees out. Like I it was like 39 this morning, and it's 70 outside right now. We have some patio furniture that uh I have been like itching to sit on, and I'm sitting in my basement right now. Um we'll bring him on, talk about the Paramount Precision Rifle Rumble number seven presented by Burris Optics and pull up some new old some of the old impact scoring myself.

SPEAKER_05 24:20

Take a look at who signed up for this guy.

SPEAKER_06 24:24

So there's 66 shooters, and there are it's actually pretty stacked with talent, you know, percent wise. Um talking about it here. Let's come up to the top. Uh looking at pros, Brady Allison. Uh Chad Lowe actually has been shooting pretty well. Well, here we can now click on him and see. Uh yeah, finished ninth at Snake River. That's pretty good. That's out in his neck of the woods. It's gonna be helpful to uh be able to click on the profiles for for our pick purposes.

SPEAKER_08 25:04

Yeah. Hello uh Chris Gars. Hey, there he is. Ready? How's it going? Good man, how are you doing? Pretty well.

SPEAKER_06 25:15

Yep. Yeah. Hey, how uh how's match setup going?

SPEAKER_00 25:20

Um crazy, you know, all the the week of stuff that's happening. Yep. But we're pretty set.

SPEAKER_06 25:29

Pretty set. Yeah, I got sorry, what do you got?

SPEAKER_00 25:34

Oh, yeah, we uh we set the range tomorrow. Uh so we have uh you know a whole sheet that's already set up so we know where every target's going, but we're doing final range set tomorrow and uh range prep. And uh by the end of the day tomorrow, we should be pretty much ready to rock and roll, except for just putting banners up and a few small things. Perfect.

SPEAKER_06 25:58

Yeah. Yeah, we we were out at Parma last year for the the rimfire finale, and um, I guess one of the observations I had, you know, and it's it's not quite a square range, right? Like you face to the north, don't you? Yeah. Like it it's kind of kind of linear, and then you get down to the end, and then it then it it takes a dog leg, right? And you get correct, you get some more open country.

SPEAKER_00 26:26

Yeah, so we have it's kind of like a 90 degree L, half of it's square range, half of it's kind of field match.

SPEAKER_06 26:33

Mm-hmm. Um really a nice setup though. It's a Parma is a a gun club. Uh you guys have a shitload of members. Um, but you have things are really well situated there. You have like a um uh like a clubhouse, and then you have like your whole garage area and all the targets and and all that. So like it be if if you kind of know what your course of fire is and you know what your target inventory is, it and you have some volunteers, like you probably can set up a match pretty quick, couldn't you?

SPEAKER_00 27:04

Oh yeah. So I mean we've been doing this this I've been running matches there for 11 years. So I pretty much have a pretty good idea what range and where most T posts are at and what targets we have. So uh once it comes time to once we nail down the course of fire, what we're gonna do, um, we typically have four guys. We split up into groups of two, and we can set a whole course of fire up um all 20 stages in about, I don't know, I'd say five or six hours.

SPEAKER_06 27:31

That's cool. That's cool. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 27:33

So we get it set up. We start with setting up uh, because we do because we only run 10 days, 10 stages a day um for center fire matches just to keep things spread out and nice and open. Uh we will set up all of Sunday's course of fire and then we'll set all that steel on the ground after we've ranged it all, and then we set up Saturday's course of fire, and that stays up ready to shoot.

SPEAKER_06 27:56

Okay. Yep, good. What's um do so do you spread out across the whole firing line then? And then you just have um, you know, kind of a stage every probably 100 feet?

SPEAKER_00 28:09

Um, yeah, so there's gonna there's a like one spot where we have a gap kind of on that corner. Um, if you remember where we had the tower there. So there'll be a little bit gap there. Uh the difference is for um center fire when I'm only running 10 stages and uh worth of shooters, we actually allow competitors to drive a vehicle to the from stage to stage. So we'll get some guy with the truck and have four or five people's gear in it, and they just kind of trundle along with the truck all the way up and down the range. So kind of makes it a lot easier. We have the space. Um, so when we can allow it, we do. Now, for the rim fire finale, we had too many people on the range to be able to allow that, obviously. But um, for our normal matches, we uh we move pretty quick and easy through there. But yeah, they're about a hundred yards apart on average. Okay.

SPEAKER_06 28:57

Now you also do something uh a little bit interesting too, uh that I I think for the most part was it was quite successful at the rim fire finale. Um the uh and where you have everybody gets a name tag, right? Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 29:12

Yeah, so I actually have the ones here for this weekend. You know, this is uh one that had to get reprinted, just a little defect. But uh yeah, so that's something we started uh about six or seven years ago. I was really looking to to increase match flow, kind of throughput, less downtime, um, you know, less shooters just sitting around. And so uh I started that uh a name card system where you you kind of everybody starts their order. I really am not picky about the initial shooting order for my shooters at the beginning of the day. But once they get going, they stay in that order. And as soon as they're done with the stage, they go ahead and move to the next stage, and there's a spot for their ID tags. So their ID tags go in line, and that way it helps a lot of things. Um the shooting order is nice and visible for everybody sitting there waiting to shoot the stage. They just look at the the cards and they see that the order of who's up next. Um, my ROs for the same thing. I don't have ROs necessarily going through squad lists, they just have all shooters on their list. And uh when they do that, they can just they have the name tag. They aren't asking how to spell it, they aren't asking if you're you know spell, you know, the Louis spelled this way or Louis spelled that way. Um they know exactly who you are. They find you, and it I have a lot less errors with scoring because of that. Um my ROs can they can they're already finding my next shooter, so the downtime in between shooters is reduced. And uh at the end of the day, it's just a nice little extra thing for the shooter to take home. You know, I try to do really nice graphics on them, something nice that they want to hang on to and and have that as a you know, momentum. Token.

SPEAKER_06 30:49

Yep. Um, the only the only downside that I could see is that you don't not everybody is getting uh that stage brief before before a stage, right? And we I think I think at the rim fire finale, and we had uh 250 shooters there. I think this came up as an incident maybe once or twice, right? So it's a really low percentage when when you have that. But um when you when you know that you know you're not gonna have a a course of fire uh read to everybody and do a stage brief for everybody, uh, do you modify your course of fire at all to be like, all right, well, if it's gotta be straightforward, you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_00 31:33

Yeah, so it's definitely gotta be, you can't get too tricky with it. Um the other thing is it is a lot more work on the front end for the match director. Um, you know, that speed during the match comes at a big cost to me because I go through um when you walk up to a stage at every stage, whenever we're running this system, um, I will not run this system without having a full stage description sitting right there next to where they put the name tags up, along with a color photograph taken from the firing position and marking the target locations. Um, you have to do everything you can to reduce target confusion, where's it at? Um and it, you know, shoot order, all yeah, sequence positions, all of that.

SPEAKER_06 32:16

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 32:16

All that's is is laid out right there. You don't have to dig through your pack and find a course of fire and read it if you don't, you know, have it right there. Um, if you're trying to find the targets, you know, you're trying to help spot whatever you need to do. But uh it makes it much quicker. Um, there's much less questions. It actually greatly reduces talking, you know, while you have shooters on the clock, um, kind of that background back chatter. Uh and so the first year that shooters try that, you know, have that system, you definitely get that one or two, or you know, that the small percentage of shooters that it brings up an issue. But uh, I tell you what, after the seventh year of running it, when we run it with, you know, at the Rumble, where 90% of my shooters have ran the system before, it is just smooth as can be. It's amazing. They they like it, everybody's happy. Um, I'm not having them shooting in the heat till 5, 6 p.m. at night. They're getting through 10 full stages um and usually on the road by by 3 p.m. each day. Right uh.

SPEAKER_06 33:22

What uh what can you expect for weather this weekend?

SPEAKER_00 33:25

Uh weather's gonna be pretty nice. Um, you know, the last two big matches, the rim fire finale and last year's rumble, we got completely skunked with just dead still, no wind. Um, so I'm really hoping, fingers crossed, we get a little bit. It's actually looking pretty good. We're we're gonna have uh mid mid 70s and uh eight to 15 mile an hour winds. So should stay in one direction, not too switchy, but still gonna have to make some wind calls.

SPEAKER_05 33:54

Love that. That sounds like a lot of fun to shoot in.

unknown 33:58

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 33:58

Yeah, and it's fairly open country. Yeah, you know, yeah. It's would would you would it technically be defined as high desert or just desert?

SPEAKER_00 34:06

No, we're yeah, we're a high desert. We're up at like 3,500 feet elevation. So um yeah. Pretty dry. It's nice, especially in the summer. I don't get uh I walk outside and just feel drenched.

SPEAKER_06 34:22

Yeah, yeah. Summer. I mean, like I was just talking at home here, it was like 39 degrees this morning. It's finally like I think it just did 70 degrees and had a warm fuck come through. But man, we played a lot of baseball outside this year where it starts at 50 degrees and windy, where it's a little bit chilly and ends somewhere around 43, 44 degrees, and you're like, this sucks. Like I'm frozen. I just want to go home and lay in bed or get in a shower.

SPEAKER_00 34:48

I was on the lake fishing in December, and it's been like 80, 90 degrees here. We've had a couple 80, 85 degree days, sunny. It's been absolutely gorgeous here. A little early, you know. We're we're gonna be hurting comes into summer because we did not have a cold winter. We had a really, really mild winter. So it's gonna be really dry this fall.

SPEAKER_06 35:11

Oh man, I hate that. So you guys had I'm trying to remember. This is a was it a year ago, right about now, or right after the no, it was right around this. Uh one of the farmers is doing a controlled burn out there, wasn't he? And it got uncontrolled pretty quick.

SPEAKER_00 35:30

That was uh two years ago, yeah. Okay. Um uh one of our range helpers, he had some volunteers, and he decided that a 10, 15 mile an hour wind day was a good day to start burning weeds, and then the he was burning along one side of the range, and the wind flipped a 180 on us. And uh, so we ended up shutting down the range right about noon, um, which we shut our whole range down to uh for meals anyway. So at lunch, even we have like two or three uh uh stages left per shooter, we go cold all the ROs, all the shooters come into the clubhouse, grab a hot meal. So we we went cold for lunch and they wouldn't let us go hot, and everybody only had two stages left. So we came back uh Sunday morning, everybody shot their two stages. We went cold for 30 minutes. We did the the range swap over for the course of fire, and then we were hot again within 30 minutes. Wow and still done by 330.

SPEAKER_06 36:31

That's crazy. That was two years ago, but uh last year in the fall, when we were out there, you I mean you could see right where it was burned. Like it was still kind of black, wasn't it? Is it still black?

SPEAKER_00 36:41

Yeah, that was from a different fire. That was from uh some three gunners earlier in the year last year. Yeah. So Parma's prone to fire. Uh not really. So we actually just last month we brought in the fire department, the rural fire department, and had them burn the range. Um, so they went around the range, they dug a fire pit. I mean, they dug a fire line all the way around. We uh we burned uh a good portion of the problem areas, and uh we're we're probably gonna do it again this uh late fall, kind of burn it. We're trying to stay on top of it. Um we're growing. We don't have uh many like permanent staff members for the range, but we're actually bumping that up and uh making some huge improvements. We just built a brand new firing line, dropped like$50,000 on that, all new concrete, new cover. Um last year, right before the finale, last year, we we dropped about 30k to have all the dirt work done to put in a whole new firing line um right before the rim fire finale. So, you know, it's one of the top ranges, one of the biggest and most developed ranges in the Northwest. And uh we take a lot of pride in it and we're constantly making it better.

SPEAKER_06 37:54

How many members?

SPEAKER_00 37:55

I'm surprised by this. We're a little over a thousand members.

SPEAKER_06 38:01

That's crazy. I mean, it's it's out in farm country, right? I mean, you're kind of near some towns, but yeah, it's mostly farm country, right?

SPEAKER_00 38:09

From downtown Boise, it's like 45 minutes to an hour. Um, which to get to most ranges, you got to get out of town a little bit, you know. There's there's not gonna be much in town, but uh you know, it's it's not too bad. Um as far as anything anywhere to shoot past 500 yards, there's there's nothing within several hours. So it's definitely worth a little bit of a drive. Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 38:36

Yep. Well, let's uh you want to do some pickups with us, Brady? Some what? You want to do some pickups? We're gonna we're gonna pick winners for this weekend.

SPEAKER_00 38:47

Winners for this weekend.

SPEAKER_06 38:49

Yep. We're just walking through this. Uh well, we'll we'll walk through the names and then we'll do kind of uh a uh snake draft and you you just pick. It's fine. Uh-huh. And then and then since you're the you're gonna be the only one there that's uh that's a part of this, you get to take the brunt of the harassment for your picks. Perfect.

SPEAKER_00 39:10

I like it.

SPEAKER_06 39:11

Yep. Uh typically we focus on the pros, but there are a few semi-pros that sneak in there or marksmen, like uh Mitchell Wong, uh who's a Northwest shooter. Like he he ended up winning the the short action custom match as a as a marksman, which is crazy. It's awesome. Um so uh Brady Allenson uh up there. It could be a solid pick.

SPEAKER_00 39:33

And he always does good. I always tell him he's the most winningest Brady between us too.

SPEAKER_06 39:39

You know what? Nobody's got a better smile than Brady Allenson, too. Hands down.

SPEAKER_00 39:44

He's got the biggest smile in the PRS. Nope, he's good. I've seen him do a lot of top five finishes. It'd be cool to see him win one. Yep. I think he's won one, hasn't he?

SPEAKER_06 39:53

He has won one, yeah. Yep, yeah, yeah. Uh Chad Lowe, he's semi-local to you guys out there.

SPEAKER_00 39:58

Yeah, Chad's soul shooter. If he has a good day, he can come in and take it.

SPEAKER_06 40:03

Yeah. Chris Garcia is shooting gas gun. But I mean, I I wouldn't be surprised to see a top five out of him. Uh yeah, I mean, wind or not, I don't know. But uh see a top five. He that could happen.

SPEAKER_00 40:19

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 40:19

Corson.

SPEAKER_00 40:20

Corson's a strong contender, he's on fire right now.

SPEAKER_06 40:25

Uh Dale Rhodes coming up from Oklahoma. Could do well. Um David Christensen. You could I I I know him. Um he could he could do all right.

SPEAKER_00 40:39

He's always a ray of shun uh sunshine. He's always fun.

SPEAKER_06 40:43

He's always happy. David Hoff could do well.

SPEAKER_00 40:48

David Hoff, this is his home range, and uh he has won a lot of matches at Parma, you know, and uh he this is where he practices. So he is uh probably he's definitely one of my top contenders for winning the weekend.

SPEAKER_05 41:02

Yeah. Uh Beamers getting a pencil out, taking note. Oh, I I've already got everybody's uh all my picks uh pulled up.

SPEAKER_06 41:10

All right. Garrett Priest, Priest Precision. He's not far down the road from you guys.

SPEAKER_00 41:15

Yeah, yeah. He's just down in Utah.

SPEAKER_06 41:17

Yeah. Uh Greg Nagy, shout out to him. He man, he's traveling all over, but right now I think he's stationed up up in the Northwest, so he's you will see him at a bunch of Northwest matches.

SPEAKER_00 41:27

I don't think I've shot with him before.

SPEAKER_06 41:29

No. Travels a lot for work and has the opportunity to take a rifle with him. Nice. Uh Jason Alvis, uh, shout out to him. He was my uh he was my partner at Dan Berdicini's uh MDT Hunter Challenge. Uh that was an awesome experience. Um I I put his name down. Uh moving on here, Keith Glasscock. I put his name down too, because um let's actually take a look at his profile. Is he yeah, Ben Washington, he was eighth out at Benji. Um too shabby. Could be up there. Regional series, a couple top fives.

SPEAKER_04 42:10

Uh moving on.

SPEAKER_06 42:15

Looks like we have two Baffus, Brandon and Mason, maybe. Are they local to you guys out there?

SPEAKER_00 42:21

Uh no, they're Washington, I believe.

SPEAKER_06 42:24

Okay. Um moving down. Nick Harper is a pro here. Uh is he local?

SPEAKER_00 42:33

No, he's he's Washington, I believe.

SPEAKER_06 42:36

Man, you got a lot of Washington dudes. Um Nick Ebhart. He was the tack champion last year. Oh, yeah. And and I verified with him today. He is shooting open, shooting a 6'5 Creed. Oh, snapped. So yeah.

SPEAKER_00 42:52

And you'll you gotta watch out for those open guys, because are the tack guys. So they'll go from 308, get beat up, then they'll go to a six Creed, six five creed, and they just smoke everybody.

SPEAKER_05 43:03

I don't think he gets beat up very much with his 308. Well, I mean, I mean you're getting beat up by the recoil. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 43:10

Yeah. But yeah, and then switching to a six-five creed, he's gonna be tough, tough this weekend. Riley John. Yeah, he's a very tall shooter. He is Rusty Ulmer coming up from from Arizona as well.

SPEAKER_00 43:26

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 43:29

Uh Sean Haymore. He could very do very well. He's semi-local. He's uh he's Utah, I think, right? Yeah, Utah as well. Yeah. Yeah. Michelle Danelos. Always a very strong shooter. Steve Amos. Steve's gotta be right there in Idaho, isn't he? Northern California.

SPEAKER_00 43:49

You know, he's uh been Utah. I've been trying to convince him to move up to Idaho for a while. He's always talked about it. Okay. Pretty sure he's Utah.

SPEAKER_06 43:57

He shot uh I brought up his profile here. Yeah, he shot. Shot Desert Chaos Urkin, Utah. Was an AG cup shooter for a while.

SPEAKER_00 44:05

Yeah, I've shot with Steve for five years. I always squatted with Steve. He was always great. Great company. I think he shot every year of the Rumble. He shot every year of magic.

SPEAKER_06 44:18

No joke.

SPEAKER_00 44:19

Yeah, he always shows up with the name tag with his very first name tag and he refuses to wear the new one. He always picks, he always uses his first one because he actually won the first um rumble. Yeah, Steve Eames, yeah, won the very first rumble. Okay.

SPEAKER_06 44:37

Let's uh I'm gonna share it. So I I took the most of who we talked about there and dragged him into a spreadsheet. Hopefully you guys can see that pretty well. Oh, and I put Terry Conway on there too. Terry semi-pro. So that's pretty much who we talked about. How many think we should do? Three? Yeah, three gets us all but all but uh a couple. Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 45:09

Probably three then. Yeah. Um all right, Brady. You get to draw first.

SPEAKER_00 45:18

All right. Well, he's been I I've seen him put in the work and I think he can do it. I think David Hoff's probably gonna take the win. I think he can do it if he puts together a strong match and stays in it all weekend. Okay.

SPEAKER_06 45:34

Going with David Hoff.

SPEAKER_03 45:36

Josh. Josh I did. Uh let's go with Corson Piper.

SPEAKER_06 45:44

I think that's a solid pick for a Northwest match.

SPEAKER_05 45:48

I'm gonna go Sean Haymore. Number one draft pick number one draft pick.

SPEAKER_06 45:56

I have to go with Nick Gabbard. I, you know, when I reached out to him, talked about you know, are you actually shooting open? I'm like, here we go. Yeah. Let's see what he can do. Uh yeah. Who's your name? Oh, I get to go again. You got another. Yep. I'm gonna follow that up.

SPEAKER_05 46:15

I um you you hovered your cursor on him too long. You gotta go with it now. I'm gonna go rusty over. All right.

SPEAKER_08 46:29

Uh uh, Delroads. Okay. You get two. No, you get two here. All right, let's go uh let's go Riley.

SPEAKER_00 47:05

I think Riley is Riley's always up there. I always see him up top holding hardware. And then uh say Brady Allenson for third. Dang.

SPEAKER_08 47:16

I was hoping he was gonna slip through the cracks. Yeah. Josh, who you got, bud? Oh. Let's go with the semi-pro. Terry. Very doable.

SPEAKER_05 47:35

For sure, for sure. I'm gonna go, I'm gonna steal your partner and go Jason Howells. Oh, dang it.

SPEAKER_06 47:47

I mean, there's some solid picks left here. Um you know what? I'm gonna go with the semi-local semi-pro as well. I'm gonna go Chad Lowe. Chad. He's a character too. I yeah, he is. I think he's fun to be around. Um all right. We'll see how we do uh following this weekend, and then um we'll report back next Tuesday night and uh hopefully have the winner on if he's available. Or she. Uh I don't think do you have you know what? I think Shannon Meredith was on there. Okay, I was gonna say, do you have I think I have four or five actually?

SPEAKER_00 48:25

You do, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 48:26

Yeah, Ashland, Nelos, Martian, uh Howard, Megan Galloway, Shannon Meredith, and Tatum White. Yeah. Okay. Actually, I have five. All right. Good deal. Yeah. Cool. Brady, have a great weekend. Uh the best. And and Jay Hymer, your uh co MD. Wish you guys the best this weekend. And um yeah, have uh have a great match. Hopefully, lots of wind, lots of sun. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 48:54

Definitely. All right. Well, thank you for having me on.

SPEAKER_06 48:56

Good luck. Thank you. Look at this special guest tonight. Hey, fellas. Jeff Geary, how are you, man?

SPEAKER_05 49:03

It's Gimp. I'm the special our special health report for everybody.

SPEAKER_02 49:09

I wish I had good news. It's really not uh don't have anything all that good. Doctors really don't even know what's going on at this point, but it's been it is better. It's slowly getting better. It's one of those I've I've gone and shot a couple matches just because I was sitting around doing nothing for so long. I got bored. I'm like, man, dude, I at least want to go try to shoot. And when I get there and guys, oh, how you doing? I'm like, you know, decent. I you know, I don't want to say no, I'm doing really crappy, and then I somehow was able to shoot well and win. That yeah, just that looks kind of bad. Uh yeah, so it's it's not great, but I'm I'm just gonna keep working, working. Hopefully it'll gradually get there and I'll shoot what I can when I can. But uh yeah, the the expectations have kind of lowered a smidge for the season.

SPEAKER_06 50:04

Uh well that's why we wanted to pull you out of the show tonight. Like I, you know, we we talk about you anytime you're signed up for a match, like, oh, maybe this is it, he's healthy, he's coming back. And I know the folks at home want to know too. So hopefully, you know, we're not gonna intrude too much on how how you're doing. But it's fine.

SPEAKER_02 50:22

No, I saw the one where Orgain, uh, I guess I went up to Pennsylvania to to shoot, and I was watching that, I guess, Friday night in bed. And when he when he picked me, I was I was I was about to text him be like, oh yeah, you you uh you screwed up there. Sorry, buddy.

SPEAKER_06 50:37

Be lucky if I get out of bed the morning.

SPEAKER_02 50:39

And I mean I had a lot of other problems too, but I I knew when I got to the airport and put on a 40-pound pack and like took a step and uh felt the kind of sharp pain in the knee. I was like, this is well we're we're going, but this is not a good plan. Um yeah, so I think yeah, travel, airplane travel is gonna be on hold for a while. And uh yeah, we'll see. I know it was annoying. I was just watching Morgan kind of he talks, oh yeah, I'm gonna go to three matches coming up, you know, probably probably win at least one. At least it's like that must be nice to yeah, feel feel that way.

SPEAKER_06 51:22

You take your health for granted, don't you?

SPEAKER_02 51:24

You definitely do. It's uh it's tough. I mean, yeah, I'm gonna keep battling. That's yeah, I'm not gonna try to quit, but um, yeah, I'm gonna focus on trying to get better for for worlds. That's coming up, I guess like three months. Doing kind of these peptide injections that people, I don't know if y'all are familiar with the Wolverine stack. The Wolverine stack, absolutely. You gotta kind of got the hair going right now with the Wolverine, too. I just got yeah, finished in the evenings, yeah, do about an hour, hour and a half of just kind of stretching and strengthening stuff with bands, just trying to get some of the mobility back. The best news is it's not super painful, so there's nothing real, yeah. That's just pain. So I can sleep well, which is good. That helps with just life in general. And um, yeah, it it's just I don't have any mobility. It's just like it's all clogged up and you just can't bend it past like 90 degrees or something.

SPEAKER_06 52:28

But so so about a year ago, it was actually uh man, I think it was right around this time. We both had our knee scoped like within a week of one another, right? It yep. Uh torn meniscus. Yes, yeah. Yep. And then yeah, I th I think you healed a lot quicker. Well, probably because you were doing bandwork and stuff like that. And I was uh I I didn't I didn't do anything to help help with the situation, but it's my my knee is perfect.

SPEAKER_02 52:56

I know it was annoying to do that with you, and then also Chris Valdez did had had an operation on his and did no PT, did absolutely nothing, and his is oh yeah, mine's perfect. Uh meanwhile, it's like I was following everything to a T and it just worse and worse and worse and uh yeah.

SPEAKER_06 53:15

But so is this That's rough. Have you had an additional surgery on your knee since last year?

SPEAKER_02 53:21

Yeah, I this February, like two months ago or three months ago, maybe. Yeah, in February. I had it they had they had I tore the meniscus again, so they had to repair it, and then they cleaned it out a little bit, and there just seemed to be a bunch of calcium, just debris. Yeah, just a bunch of stuff in there. And they just not quite sure exactly. There two doctors are kind of contemplating on who to send me to, and we'll see. Dang. But anyway, yeah, I don't know. Let's talk about something maybe positive.

SPEAKER_06 53:57

Well, I mean, we we had we had to get the report from you, right? Yeah. So uh, you know, how it's going, what's going on, you know, all that.

SPEAKER_02 54:05

Yeah, I I yeah, yeah, I've done I mean with the finale at twisted barrel, and if I could get a couple decent matches, I mean I wouldn't rule out a possible golden bullet run uh late in the season, but uh that like that seems very unrealistic at this point. So we'll we'll just yeah.

SPEAKER_06 54:26

Well you you have like one week short of six months, I think. I mean, put that into perspective.

SPEAKER_05 54:34

Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Well, you know, PRS ain't going nowhere. Your health matters.

SPEAKER_02 54:40

That's true. I can take some time, yep, take some time off.

SPEAKER_05 54:44

Yeah. And you know, nobody else is gonna complain about it because they'll be able to get some points while you're on the guys were on the phone.

SPEAKER_06 54:52

The guys trying to make picks. Yeah, guys trying to make picks are the ones complaining. Like, well, is Jeff coming or not? Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 54:58

I I I definitely felt bad about that. I I looked and saw, I think uh I was picked by a hundred percent of the people in the precision picks thing of the Pennsylvania thing. I was like, okay, at least I screwed everybody equally. We're good there. That's a yeah, lot, and I'll try not to, but now it's it's at least out there for collis that uh you just it's out there. Uh maybe. I'm gonna go to the phone. I'd still pick it. We'll see. I'd still pick it up. Okay, fair. All right.

SPEAKER_05 55:29

Yeah. Something uh something I want to point out to just all of our listeners is that uh Jeff has a really cool YouTube channel that people need to check out. It's my PRS matches, right?

SPEAKER_02 55:42

Yeah, that is it. Yeah. I I don't and I'm just not active. I like I'll post the videos because I enjoy trying to help out new shooters and stuff, but I just don't do comments or anything like that. So if someone wants to reach out to me, Jeff, they'd message me. I figure they would know me or have shot with me.

SPEAKER_05 55:59

I think it's I think it's a really valuable uh thing that you're doing by posting up your scope cam videos. And I I I love that you're always talking to yourself. Oh, yeah, a little bit, yeah. During the during the stage.

SPEAKER_02 56:11

It's probably not yeah, kid friendly, but I think when I first you know, when I was first coming up, I I was looking up to you know people like Orgain and Clay and Morgan, and and my dream was kind of like, man, I'd love to see what it looks like when they shoot. And and then as I got at least decent enough, I was like, well, I could probably at least post this and not look like an idiot. Uh maybe that happened, maybe it didn't. But um yeah, I was kind of hoping to inspire some other people to maybe do it themselves. And I know I've seen Caruso post a few kind of uh training things on on that, but it just kind of made me curious to see um through other people's kind of reticle.

SPEAKER_05 56:53

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And that's what's so cool about it. It's like, I mean, you're you're one of the best shooters in the sport, and you're posting you know, your view through the scope of what you're seeing on targets and and how you're it it what's really cool, what I think a lot of newer shooters um can take away is like this is how stable you need to be when you're taking aim at a target, you know what I mean? And uh that's I think that's one of the small details that um you know when uh when a a top shooter is taking a shot, their reticle is not moving. It is it is right, yeah it is per a perfect shot. No, even through the shot, it doesn't make much sense.

SPEAKER_02 57:41

I've definitely heard that more so than anything else that I hear. It's like, oh god, you seem to get stable so fast. That yeah. So it just made me curious. I was like, gosh, I but I bet I mean I guarantee VM Francis is gets very very stable very fast. Gossets, obviously, keys. I mean, yeah, down the line.

SPEAKER_06 58:02

Obviously. Jeff, is this a position you can get in today?

SPEAKER_02 58:05

That yes, that was done a month ago. That's kind of why it's kind of bent like that. So that is that is current.

SPEAKER_08 58:12

Yeah, he's favorite.

SPEAKER_03 58:14

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 58:15

Yeah, that was about a month ago, and I'm probably about the same. Seems like every time I shoot a match, I set myself back one or two weeks. So at least it feels that way. Oh man.

SPEAKER_03 58:28

Yeah, you should just take two months and and be a hundred percent.

SPEAKER_02 58:31

And I I hear you. I tried. I tried. I after collis, I I really think I might. Just since it is KM, I can drive. It's only four hours. I'm gonna be able to stay on site. It's like that one at least makes sense. I can tow around a little buggy with my stuff. I don't have to carry much. I can the you know, shooting in 90 seconds, that'll be a little, a little tough. But uh I at least want to try to do that one. And it's not as rough the terrain. Up there at MKM, you know, kind of some sloped grass with the rocks. And I didn't even know you were there, Josh. Sorry, I didn't even see you. It was kind of a hectic weekend.

SPEAKER_03 59:12

I saw you from a distance, and the only way I knew it was you is because you're limping.

SPEAKER_02 59:16

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 59:16

So that sticks out, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 59:22

You know, the rocket KM, as beautiful it is, uh it's not easy on your feet.

SPEAKER_02 59:28

No, no, no, it's your hips or your back. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 59:31

Yeah. It is. Yeah, it'd be a packing. Uh you need I need to send you pictures of my of my current like match rig. I've got a you know, uh rolling toolbox so you can I can park my ass down and and sit down and watch at stages. Maybe that wouldn't be a bad bad uh idea for you in your current state.

SPEAKER_02 59:50

That's the other how do you like get a chair everywhere I go now and make sure I have a chair there to sit. It's just like, man, it's so hard to work. It's like it's supposed to be fun. I don't know how much fun this is right now.

SPEAKER_05 1:00:04

Yeah, with your your dedication is admirable.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:09

I don't think I'd be uh dedication, stupidity, there's they look us the same probably. Addiction. Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:00:16

Addiction. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:00:18

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:00:18

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:00:20

How have you uh have you won a pro series at KM before? I've actually won collis last year.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:27

So last year for other reason. I I hate to I think I've been unable to defend any of the titles I won last year except for one so far, so they just keep kind of flying by. Although it was yeah, nice to see Rudisil clip Kale in Texas. I was beginning to worry that Kale was about to get four straight, and I would be unable to go stop him from getting five to tie my record last year. I was like, I don't have much in this sport. I I like the five in a row record, so I at least wanted it to last more than a year.

SPEAKER_06 1:01:06

I don't think that's gonna get broken. Yeah, man.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:08

I sent Keith a cookie bouquet to his office. I never heard from him. I don't know if he didn't know it was from me or just didn't want to, but I keep watching. I did send you a cookie bouquet. Congrats on that way.

SPEAKER_05 1:01:25

Might have sent him into some sort of like diabetic shock. Just sabotaged his whole season with all those cookies.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:34

Yeah, that was I'm projecting that's what I would have yeah, that's Bushman level strategy there. Yeah. Yeah, I wouldn't have that in me.

SPEAKER_06 1:01:45

Oh man. Yeah. Yeah, it was this time last year. Uh yeah, you won your fifth was uh KM.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:54

That's right. Uh college.

SPEAKER_06 1:01:55

That is that is such a crazy run. Yeah. And then you had surgery.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:00

You had surgery between May 24th and then funny enough, I went up to MKM last year in August, whenever that was, and that on the way up there again, I knew this was a bad idea. I can't walk. What am I doing? Um, and then luckily, I gun line, you know, flat ground, I was able to shoot that and and just shot incredibly well despite the legs, and that was a pretty straightforward course fire. I mean, nothing tricky about that.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:28

So that yeah, was would have been really cool if you took that MKM one off and had six straight.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:35

Yeah, yeah. I think about that. Like on the other side of that, Kali clipped me by one at MPA to win um that would have started like I that's when I felt that day two at that MPA match, I knew I was I I had something going. And just he shot great that day. I was a little too far behind, but I kind of took that into VPRC and then win that, and then go to then it just I was like, man, yeah, we we got this. So yeah, oh that seems so long ago now. Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:03:09

Yeah. Top 10 years pretty pretty well stacked here. Josh, you were there in the top ten.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:16

You guys, I I mean, you and Anthony Yeah, that was I didn't you had a gap between two. I didn't know who he was until that that that that I found out who he was that day.

SPEAKER_06 1:03:26

Yeah, I do see that. Absolutely. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:28

Yeah, I guess I knew of him from the Idaho finale day one.

SPEAKER_06 1:03:33

But that's right. Yeah, actually he Idaho finale most of the way through day two. I think it came down to the last four stages, then he just you know, kind of sputtered out.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:45

But yeah. Yeah. No, he's definitely one of those dudes you sometimes see those guys, you know, oh yeah, he's he's got it, and that's he's yeah, he's got it.

SPEAKER_08 1:03:56

Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:03:58

Man. Yeah, I'm sure before you you know it, you're gonna be backing back on top and destroying everyone else's scores for the season.

SPEAKER_06 1:04:10

I hope so. Yeah, what's uh uh you have any uh have any other plans, I guess, like for surgery or physical therapy?

SPEAKER_02 1:04:21

Pretty much advised just don't do anything surgical for at least six months. Let's just see how the peptides do. Keep doing PT and I'm going to the swimming pool just about every day, hour in the pool. So just I'm just gonna keep plugging away at all that stuff and and just see where it is, I guess, in in another month or two. Yeah. So kind of working everything physical, but yeah, I'm just it's just so hard to go practice right now. So that's that's gonna be difficult. That was kind of how I got I think my confidence was through practice and preparation, being ready. And when you just don't have that, it's yeah, you're just kind of hoping, I guess, going with past memories.

SPEAKER_05 1:05:10

I think I think you've got the the the neural pathways are are pretty well seated in there for for how to shoot a bolt gun.

SPEAKER_06 1:05:21

What uh I mean, practice-wise though, you could still standing on the case.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:25

I I can I can shoot at a bench, I can shoot prone, prone fine. It's yeah, it's everything else to get there. The loading up rifles, putting stuff in the truck, you know, driving there. Driving there is not too, too bad, but then getting out, uh there's a lot of gravel there. I gotta make multiple trips back and forth. It's just one of those that I can go do it, but boy, it's it is hard work. And you need a patty, you need a caddy.

SPEAKER_05 1:05:50

Yeah. I was just about to say you need a pack mule.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:53

Yeah, there's been some guys up there that have been try to hey, what can I get for you? But it's it's one of those where I just you know

SPEAKER_06 1:06:00

Yeah. Well, don't let your pride get in the way of your uh recovery. Is is this an opportunity that maybe we could we could do an appeal for somebody like who hey who wants to learn from Jeff Geary? There you go. You know, at at the collis match, you just got to carry a ship for him. You know, and maybe carry him. Yeah. Yeah, maybe. Okay. I dude. I if I was a new shooter, I would jump all over this opportunity, right? Like, yeah, Jeff, I'll support you. You just just tell me what you just talk to me throughout the whole match. What what are you doing? What are you seeing? You know, when you're not on glass, I'll be behind you. So I can you know you just talk. You could you could learn a lot from just being right there, right? I don't think that's a bad deal. That's not a bad deal.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:47

Sounds like you're volunteering yourself as it is, kind of. I was gonna say it sounds it's it's kind of like shooting the gap grind, and boy, that is that is a couple long days.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:57

Well they're long enough, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:00

If I didn't have a small tournament present time, I think yeah, shooting is gonna be hard enough that I I don't need uh the extra potential burden of trying to help out. Well, not coach somebody. He just wants to be there, listen. Yeah, just yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:07:15

Well, what what'd you do on that stage? You know, what'd you start with? You know, obviously it's gonna be about a tenth right or a tenth left.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:21

Most likely, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:07:23

You know, just talk me through talk me through what you did, right? And then get the rifle from the last position, put a chamber flag in it, and set it off to the side for me. You know, there's no rules about that. Like you just have to control it throughout the stage.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:36

All right, yeah. Well, I think we gotta pretty good squad at Collis. I think they'll they'll be helpful. I'd and people have offered bit Ben, I mean Ben Gossett was offering this last week, but they you know, I would prefer someone offer that maybe didn't have a chance to win the match. Uh yeah, I'm not gonna let Ben carry my crap.

SPEAKER_06 1:07:58

Nah. And then and then Ben goes one and you go two. How sweet would that be? But Ben Ben carried both of you. Yeah, literally. Yeah, definitely.

SPEAKER_05 1:08:08

Yeah. Well, we hope you get freaking better soon.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:13

Yeah, I hope so. But um, yeah, it's been fun, at least following along. It's you know, in the end, I am a fan of just PRS in general, and it's and very enjoying watching kind of live and the scores as they come in, seeing how guys are doing. That's it's a fun thing to kind of at least stay engaged. So yeah, appreciate y'all for kind of putting out everything.

SPEAKER_06 1:08:35

Yeah, yeah. Well, I appreciate you being a big part of this, man.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:38

Oh, it's yeah, still still love shooting and love to compete with everybody. So yeah, hope to be able to keep doing it for a while.

SPEAKER_03 1:08:47

Hell yeah. Jeff, if if you had one tip, like when was your first win?

SPEAKER_02 1:08:51

My first win was it was August of 21 at Magnolia Meltdown. And that was it, the first Magnolia Meltdown at at gunline. And yeah, I remember going into it feeling pretty good. And I battled, I was in Shannon K squad, and that was back when Shannon was like he was pretty big time, so I was kind of up and coming, and I'm like, wow, I'm shooting with Shannon. I practice at KM a bit, he knows who I am, and we're just kind of battling, and I just shot great day one and had probably a three, I think a three shot lead on him, but I had the tiebreaker on him also, and then I just was on fire day two, and I don't think I missed anything until our second to last stage, and I actually had a seven-point lead going into the last stage, so I kind of knew it was it was sorry, it was wrapped up. It was a big small at like six, seven, eight, nine, and a ten. And the big ones back then were pretty big, so if you miss the big, you got to re-engage the big. So I'm like, okay, I get at least five shots at a giant target. We're gonna get at least five. That's probably a terrible way to be thinking for my first win. I was like, let me just get five here. But uh yeah, thankfully I did hit all the big ones, but I missed I think the first two small ones, then clipped one, and then missed the last two. So I ended up with a six. I mean, like literally by far, I think the worst score that match. I think I dropped like eight total or something, seven total. And yeah, I just remember me and Shannon kind of lapped the field. It wasn't a super strong field, but it was if for for my first wind and with Shannon in the squad, that one felt like I it'd be hard to imagine a first win feeling much better than that one did.

SPEAKER_03 1:10:43

Yeah, yeah, that's pretty cool. I mean, last year was obviously a uh unreal year, but uh I guess to wrap back in my question, um, you know, when you started winning, was there a light bulb moment that like just something that kind of finally clicked and was like, that's what I need to do? Or or any type of tip like that?

SPEAKER_02 1:11:07

Gosh, you know, unfortunately, I I think it was just gradual hard work. I I look back and just think about how hard I actually worked back then. Now that I can't do much of anything, I'm like, man, I can't believe I drive fired that much. I can't bel so I I mean I drive fired hours. Uh yeah, probably why I'm maybe don't do that actually. Uh bore yourself out. Hold on. Um yeah, so with me, it just felt like it was hard work. And once I finally pushed over and won, I'm like, okay, well, I think we're about there. This feels like I can do it. Can we do it consistently? Can we do it at other venues? Can I do it out west? And and and those just kind of were more gradual steps, but uh it's just yeah, very it was very gradual to the where I felt like I could, okay. I'm I'm kind of a top 10 guy, I think, now.

SPEAKER_06 1:12:08

What's um out west? I know you won Box Canyon last year.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:13

That was that's about the only one out there. So that one, yeah, I just haven't been out there that that much. And unfortunately, I'd I love the shooting out there with the pans and the winds and shooting that box canyon. That was so much fun. I was like, God, this would be awesome to do all the time.

SPEAKER_05 1:12:32

And uh just move to Kansas and you can't.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:38

I was like, man, I hate dust though. Boy, I hate dust. You can always find, I guess, the little thing. So but I yeah, I just go back probably to hard work, is is just you have to put in put in the hours and put in the time, surround yourself with yeah, knowledgeable people knowledgeable people, ask questions along the way, but I I just don't think there was ever just like one thing that's that's what it's gonna take moment for me.

SPEAKER_05 1:13:09

What's um what's the name of our the PRS simulator game that's been going on going around?

SPEAKER_02 1:13:17

That uh precision rifle sim.

SPEAKER_05 1:13:20

Precision rifle sim. You've been winning a bunch of those, haven't you?

SPEAKER_02 1:13:24

Well, me and uh little challenges that he puts Levi is actually I'm I'm gonna admit I think Levi's a little bit better. He uh his hit percentage is a little bit higher. He's been doing it longer, but it's it's fun. We battle each night on this daily challenge, and I'll I'll usually text him if he drops one, you know, gonna clip you, or you know, we'll we'll battle a little bit. I see. What is that?

SPEAKER_05 1:13:50

Do you think that do you do you do you think that doing these is is at least helping you stay engaged mentally and and for someone it at the top, I don't think it would it would help a whole lot.

SPEAKER_02 1:14:02

I could see how for a beginner kind of tool to teach someone, I I could see it being very valuable for for a newer type person. And possibly I didn't think about the testing aspect, but he said everything was kind of plugged in accurately that I mean technically you should be able to simulate putting a you know big target at a thousand yards and shooting it with different bullets and different wind conditions and seeing what it actually does and if it I don't know, uh he says it simulates it properly, so I guess it'd be a cheap way people could test out stuff if they thought that was pretty accurate.

SPEAKER_05 1:14:46

One of your you're talking about uh running different bullets, but one of your m more recent uh videos you posted your running one bullet for about half the match.

SPEAKER_02 1:14:59

Oh gosh.

SPEAKER_05 1:15:00

Yeah, won't won't mention won't mention the the weights or the names. Well, I funny enough, my commentary your commentary after you switched back. I thought about that afterwards because old reliable was really funny.

SPEAKER_02 1:15:12

Yeah, I shot that in my other six by 47 barrel, and boy, they should they look to be really good in that barrel. So I yeah, would absolutely encourage people trying out the a 116 grain bullet. Yeah. Yeah, but yeah, that was just a bad, a rushed, rushed thing. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:15:37

It just made me I I just cracked up when you listen to your commentary on that. When he hit that little plate on the KYL, that was well yeah, it was just all of a sudden, it was like Trace just appeared.

SPEAKER_02 1:15:48

Uh it's like it wasn't there, and then it was like, there it is. I was like, oh, okay. It's just weird.

SPEAKER_06 1:15:56

Yeah. Are you in uh in your moment here of uh of healing, are you keeping your uh your rifle system pretty much the same?

SPEAKER_02 1:16:08

Pretty much. Are you tinkering? I I've been playing with the different suppressor brake options, so kind of got the scythe with the recoil X, been playing with the Thunder Beast, the Magnus K with the Recoil X. Just got, I gotta go pick it up. I think it was the God, the Libert Libert Infinity, maybe. I think it's maybe one of a more flow-through can that can take take the brake. That's bad. I can't even remember a can I bought, but uh yeah, so trying a few to the different cans with the brakes. Uh Randy was gonna do a 25 dasher. I just how can I not at least play with a 25 dasher? That sounds fun. So as soon as he gets the reamer, we'll do one of those.

SPEAKER_05 1:16:57

I had a chance to to shoot one of those the other day and uh it was interesting. Seemed uh didn't seem like a bad idea.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:04

Yeah, yeah, I like the recoil impulse of the 25 GT. So if I could get a little little bit less with kind of that inherent dasher accuracy they call or talk about that, I'll I'll take that a little slower. And then I'm also gonna try the 6x47 again, you know, especially with back when went in that way. I I shot mine a couple times last year, and both times I loved it. I did not end up shooting it for the finale just because I had a different optic on a duh, a different gun I wanted to shoot. Otherwise, I if I didn't mind changing the optics that morning, I would have shot the 6x47. I I do really like that. So um I think my eyes are starting to get bad enough that I don't know if I see that well anyway. So let's just get there fast and maybe we'll we won't see that either. I don't I don't know. It's like if it doesn't make a difference and I'm not gonna see it. Get it there fast. Go for it.

SPEAKER_05 1:18:08

How fast are you running your how fast are you running your 647?

SPEAKER_02 1:18:12

It was right at like 3,010 with a with a 109 hybrid. So I it was quick, but I it was not that just seemed to be where it liked to shoot. I didn't even test it any faster. I assume you could probably get at least 3050 with it if you wanted. Probably. Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:18:32

Did you get that Snapchat the other day, Ken? Oh, I did, yeah. You're shooting six greed?

SPEAKER_03 1:18:38

Uh six by forty-seven. Oh, it is six forty seven. Oh, you got a six by forty-seven? Yeah, I just started playing with one.

SPEAKER_08 1:18:46

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 1:18:46

I haven't shot it in a match or anything, just shooting it out the back door for now.

SPEAKER_06 1:18:51

Seeing what it likes.

SPEAKER_08 1:18:52

Okay.

SPEAKER_06 1:18:54

I have a six freed barrel that I that's what I shot Norway because I wanted to shoot a six mil over there and I didn't want to take uh 300 rounds of ammo or something with me, so I bought factory Norma six freed ammo when I got over there. And um I shot well. I like it. I I I I mean I literally have 320 rounds to that barrel and it just sits there. Like I probably I've thought about it this week. Thought about our interview with Ryan. I'm like, man, maybe yeah. You you think but I'm not shooting anyway now until July, so it doesn't matter.

SPEAKER_02 1:19:32

You think it might start to swing a little bit that way? A few more people try the faster.

SPEAKER_05 1:19:37

We keep why not? We keep talking about it. It's probably uh uh keeps coming up. Uh it seems like maybe that I don't know, some guys are just trying to claw back in a a little bit of an advantage with their six millimeters um to what uh it what could be perceived as lost traction to the 25 cals, but hard to say. I think it's more about being able to see better on target than anything.

SPEAKER_03 1:20:08

I more at least would have like two or three GTs sitting around here at all times, and I just wanted a way to keep my brass all separate. So I just wanted another cartridge close to it. And uh but certainly also have some heavier bullets. I wouldn't mind pushing with some more energy, and if it shoots those well, uh I will be taking it to a match. So um but yeah, I was playing with DTEX and 105s. Uh 105s are shooting really well, right at 3000, and yeah, it'd be hard to hard to not try it at a regional at least. Absolutely. I don't know if 105s can shoot bad. I they really don't.

SPEAKER_02 1:20:49

If they do, I don't use that barrel, I don't think. Yeah, yeah. It's not the bullet of the barrel.

SPEAKER_03 1:20:55

Put a different barrel on at that point. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:21:02

Yeah. What uh what did you shoot uh for most of your wins last year, or was it just a uh a mixed bag of it all anyway?

SPEAKER_02 1:21:09

I definitely shot six dasher, I think, for the majority of them. I'm thinking, let's see, the first uh two there were uh two 25 GTs because I know VPRC actually VPRC was the six by 47, uh Box Canyon was the 25 GT, and I believe the rest were dashers, because then yeah, Clinton House Dasher, Alabama Dasher, KM Dasher. Yeah, yeah. So three Dasher and 20 or 6x47 and 25 GT. So I think yeah, you can do it with any of them. It's sure.

SPEAKER_05 1:21:45

But I mean that that's kind of a that's a that's a uh educated logical choice to bring a little bit higher BC bullet to a couple of those matches, like Fox Canyon, you know, 25 caliber and the winds that we have and all that sort of thing. Not a not a bad idea.

SPEAKER_02 1:22:00

100%, yes. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:22:03

I think that's why we we tend to see uh so many guys out west shooting um shooting six fives and stuff more out there when you've got a little bit longer, longer ranges, more wind.

SPEAKER_02 1:22:16

Yeah, I just makes just makes sense. Perfect sense. I think I'd probably tend to do the same.

SPEAKER_05 1:22:22

Yeah. Yeah. Wonder how long it is till we have like uh what what rifle are we shooting on this stage? Oh man. Hopefully, we'll never get there, will we?

SPEAKER_02 1:22:35

It only I thought you couldn't switch uh rifles of it there is language in the rules.

SPEAKER_06 1:22:41

I hate quoting the rules while I'm on camera too. Um then don't do it. Well, but it is in the rules.

SPEAKER_05 1:22:48

It is in the rules that you have to do.

SPEAKER_02 1:22:49

Yeah, because I thought about that years ago. I'd be like, oh yeah, it's like get the seven iron or get the I need the wedge get the seven psalm for this one or get the dasher for this one.

SPEAKER_03 1:22:59

I didn't think you could change and you know, even uh like a day one to day two thing. You know, day one, oh it's not gonna be windy. I'll shoot my six, day two, I'll bring in my six five because it's gonna blow.

SPEAKER_02 1:23:09

Yeah, it's a it's I thought it was the other whole whole match.

SPEAKER_03 1:23:13

It'd be kind of fun to unless it's like as uh yeah, failure of some sort. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:23:19

Yeah, of course. It'd be kind of fun to have an outlaw match where you could bring two rifles or something like that.

SPEAKER_02 1:23:25

Yeah, I guess I didn't think about that. Were a couple matches I've taken like a six-dasher but had a 25 GT, like I wasn't sure which one I was gonna shoot, and I didn't think about it. If one failed, wouldn't have been able to shoot the other one most likely. I don't know.

SPEAKER_08 1:23:41

Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:23:42

I well, I'll think about that now.

SPEAKER_05 1:23:47

Yeah, just what I need is more match ideas for more matches. Right. Right.

SPEAKER_03 1:23:54

Jeff, your knee can't even handle one gun. How you gonna carry two?

SPEAKER_02 1:23:57

That's that is absolute, yeah. Yeah, I'd probably I might have to start looking at F class then.

SPEAKER_05 1:24:06

Yeah, no kidding.

SPEAKER_02 1:24:08

Uh I don't think I'm that bad yet. Um I hope.

SPEAKER_06 1:24:11

No, I'm not gonna find it. Um yeah, I know it says something about you know it's match director approval or something along those lines. I could see it being rifles.

SPEAKER_01 1:24:21

Yeah, match to match, you know, some special cases.

SPEAKER_06 1:24:27

That would be fun. You know, have a have a magnum and then all the way down to a dasher and a driver to a clutter. Yeah, right. Yeah. You know, prone prone stage, let's go. Baggage fee would be enormous.

SPEAKER_05 1:24:44

Oh yeah, yeah, that'd be terrible for travel.

SPEAKER_02 1:24:47

If you can afford to do that, you probably have plane for your plane.

SPEAKER_06 1:24:51

Exactly.

SPEAKER_02 1:24:52

God, that would be terrible. Yeah, I'm out. If I ever pull up and see like a guy with with a cart that's just surrounded, like two rifles on it, yeah, nah, we're we're done here.

SPEAKER_05 1:25:03

Definitely gonna need a caddy for that.

SPEAKER_02 1:25:05

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:25:05

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:25:09

All right. Well, let's uh let's conclude. Jeff, appreciate having you on, man. Okay, good. And it's always good to catch you.

SPEAKER_02 1:25:17

Are y'all gonna pick for the uh Parma thing later? Uh we did. We did good because I looked at the list and I was like, man, I don't know a lot of the people out there, so I'm worried. I'm glad y'all picked without me. That was smart. Well done.

SPEAKER_05 1:25:32

Yeah, we we picked with Brady. Okay. Uh there's some there's some super solid shooters there. It'll be uh it should be a good match.

SPEAKER_02 1:25:40

Isn't he shooting?

SPEAKER_05 1:25:41

Well, no, uh Brady Allenson Allison is shooting. Oh Brady uh Lamb and Jay Homer, the match directors.

SPEAKER_02 1:25:49

I did yeah, yeah. I was still thinking about the list of the names I had here, so yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:25:53

There you go. All righty, yeah. Yeah, it's good to have you on. Yeah, appreciate it. Hopefully heal up. I think we're all we're we're all hoping for you know, you find a solution here, heal up quick and get back out. Oh, I hope so, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:26:07

Yeah, too much fun to give up on. So I appreciate y'all having me and yep, have a great one.

SPEAKER_03 1:26:12

I will see you next weekend, probably.

SPEAKER_02 1:26:15

Oh, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:26:16

Yeah, okay. Okay, you know, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:26:18

Okay, yep.

SPEAKER_01 1:26:19

See you next weekend.

SPEAKER_08 1:26:20

All right.