The Story Behind Impact Precision | Tate Streeter

In this episode, we sit down with Tate Streeter, founder of Impact Precision Shooting, to discuss the incredible journey from local PRS competitor to building one of the most respected brands in precision rifle shooting.

Tate shares the early days of PRS competition, how Impact Precision was started, the development of the legendary 737 action, and the challenges of growing a manufacturing company while staying committed to family and the shooting community.

We discuss:

• The origins of Impact Precision
• The early evolution of PRS competition
• Building the 737 action from scratch
• Winning Gold Balls and national championships
• The rise of pre-fit barrels and modern rifle systems
• Manufacturing, quality control, and product development
• The future of Impact Precision
• Balancing business, competition, and family life

Whether you're a PRS competitor, hunter, rifle builder, or simply interested in entrepreneurship and American manufacturing, this conversation offers a behind-the-scenes look at one of the most influential companies in the precision rifle industry.

If you enjoy conversations about long-range shooting, competition, firearms innovation, and business growth, be sure to subscribe and let us know what you think in the comments.

Transcript

SPEAKER_04 0:00

Standby.

unknown 0:03

Stand by.

SPEAKER_03 0:09

Welcome back to another PRS podcast. Here with my buddy Tate Streeter of Impact Action. It's good to see you, man. Thanks, buddy. This is cool. We're doing this one in person. We're up in Tate's penthouse.

SPEAKER_02 0:19

Yeah, it's called Penthouse.

SPEAKER_03 0:22

A little warm up here today in Oklahoma, but man, I was looking machines are running well down there, and you just you can't go fast enough, can't you?

SPEAKER_04 0:30

Can't go fast enough. It's a good thing.

SPEAKER_03 0:31

Yeah, that is a good thing, man. It's awesome. Um awesome MBK ultra light. That's what they're uh down there. Software is what maybe 75 of them that's serialized.

SPEAKER_04 0:41

I think about 85.

SPEAKER_03 0:42

85.

SPEAKER_04 0:43

Yeah, they're they're real. Um they're no longer a pigment of our imagination.

SPEAKER_03 0:48

Oh yeah. And they're lightweight. Man, they're that's awesome.

SPEAKER_04 0:51

We're happy with them. Man, they've been a big hit so far, too.

SPEAKER_03 0:53

Heck yeah. Heck yeah. That's cool. What else has been keeping you busy right here? Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 0:59

You know, just the demand is is crazy. I don't know where it comes from. We're blessed, but the more we make, the more people want. And that's a good thing. And you know, my personal life, we're kicking off baseball season, you know, spring. And we've been doing team roping now. My oldest boy's into that. So um between team roping and and chasing my middle boy baseball, we're pretty busy.

SPEAKER_03 1:22

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I think I saw some some videos online. You're actually doing some roping with them. I am.

SPEAKER_04 1:26

I can't I can't watch them.

SPEAKER_03 1:30

How did you get how did you get involved with roping? I mean, like, is this the first time you've done it? Or did you grow up doing this?

SPEAKER_04 1:36

Um, no, I didn't grow up doing it. I grew up wanting to do it, but we didn't we didn't have the money or the means to do it. Um, we were into different stuff, and I've always sort of kind of wanted to do it, but you know, since 2000 and early 2013, shooting's been my life. And the kind of guy, when I do something, I do it really hard. And um my oldest boy, we we kind of forced him into baseball, and then he kind of played on his own, and then he said he wanted to quit. And my wife and I took the stance, you're gonna do something competitive.

SPEAKER_01 2:03

Have to.

SPEAKER_04 2:04

He said, I want to I want to rope. And we had some local kids in in town that are really good. And um, I mean, I think they're gonna go some places. And and uh anyway, I asked him to come over and he started taking lessons on the ground. I told him, you know, you just don't go buy a horse and you know start. So yeah. So man, you're gonna you're gonna take some lessons, throw from the ground. So six months later, he's doing all the hard boring work and loving it. And I'm like, well, okay, let's go. So we got a horse, and now we've got seven. Oh my gosh. And uh, you know, it's a family affair.

SPEAKER_03 2:35

So yeah. That is cool. That is cool. I think you know, I I'm I'm coaching baseball now, and I think before I even committed to that, we had conversations about like what's what's really important. Like, and and obviously making actions and trying to run a business and you know, going to matches and and doing all things like that. That is super important, and it's it's it also helps the family and stuff too. I mean, when you're involved and and and you're you know, selling things and doing all the right things and people know you and you know, you're doing the hand-to-hand marketing and all that, right? Like that's all important, but like in 10, 15 years, none of that matters when the kids are gone. And you know, it's like, well, you know, mom and dad were slave to business and that's it, right? But like it's the core memories you can you can get by being involved, you know.

SPEAKER_04 3:23

It is, absolutely. One of the reasons, you know, we just got our um FFL address changed to my hometown. I moved back in 2020, built a house. I I I liked where I was, but it wasn't my forever home. And um, as far as impact went, we were a little bit stunned by our ability to grow. The shop was maxed out down there. I was wanting to move back. Um, we're just kind of in a pause um on growth. When I moved back, built a new shop. Man, we've gone, you know, full steam ahead. Um, I wanted to move back to a place we've got ponds in the pasture. My kids can hunt out the back door, they can go, you know, do whatever they want to do. And and that's kind of part of part of the dream. And I'm I'm being able to live it really. So you know, making actions, it's really part of me too. So um I grew up shooting and hunting and and all that. So it's really, it's really been a blessing to do what I love to do. And my life really doesn't change.

SPEAKER_00 4:11

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SPEAKER_03 4:40

From work to home.

SPEAKER_00 4:41

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 4:42

Let's let's go back. Let's go back way, way, way back. So you grew up you grew up here. Yes, right. Right? Okay. At what age did you start doing some mountain shooting and stuff like that around the house?

SPEAKER_04 4:53

Oh, was I I mean, probably four, probably shooting 2204. I think that's what my dad told me.

SPEAKER_01 4:59

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 4:59

Um, he had a boltax in Remington. Um, I bought the place next to my parents and built on it. So um I live right across. My dad got cancer in 19, and that kind of triggered my desire to move home. Um, the city manager actually recruited me home. They had some, they had some incentives to move back. So it's just like, all right, let's do it. Yeah. Um, I knew I'd have to take care of my my parents someday. Didn't know how fast, but yeah, um, you know, shooting 22s and squirrels and shot my first deer with uh uh one of those old, oh I don't even know what you call them, Thompson Center uh 50 cal muzzloaders that you caught back and had a hair trigger. Yeah. Oh man, I killed my first one at eight. And uh with my grandpa, and I'm telling you, I never practiced with it. It's a good thing because I wouldn't have hit anything I was aiming at if I didn't open sight. It's about 75 yards, and uh I pulled that trigger, and if I'd have had to hit the second time, there's no not a chance. I can't believe I held on to it. But uh yeah, I've been hunting and fishing since I remember.

SPEAKER_03 5:56

Okay, that's awesome. Yeah, I was over at JK's yesterday and last night, whenever we had dinner, and and his son uh well sons, Mark and JW were there, and and I said to those kids, I'm like, I mean, you guys probably have a suppressed 22 around here. Oh yeah. Like, I can't imagine as a kid having a little bit of woods and suppressed 22, probably a couple of, and just like go out in the woods, have fun, don't come back, you know? Yep, that'd be unreal.

SPEAKER_04 6:27

We had uh 39 acres behind the house, probably 33 acres of woods, so we got all of that as well. Dude. Yeah, we live in a pretty low populated area, but it was less populated back then, so we pretty much had the whole rain everywhere.

SPEAKER_03 6:40

Yeah. Um so when when did you I mean PRS is the first real kind of rifle competition that you you got involved in, right? Yes, sir. Yeah. And you're like in the heart of it. I mean, like I I drew up, I saw Wade this morning staying at John Kyles in his driveway in an RV, you know, like you are in the middle of precision. I mean, this is like this is where it all comes from, right?

SPEAKER_04 7:01

Yeah, it's weird. I'm sure Wade has stories that I don't even know about and I could learn some stuff, but I literally got on longrangehunting.com. Yeah, and I found and I found uh Rick Reeves on there. There was a four-up rifle club at Alec. Well, actually, it's spelled A-N-L-A-L-E-X, they call it Alec.

SPEAKER_03 7:19

Alec.

SPEAKER_04 7:20

So anyway, I found him online, called him, and he was like, Man, I worked with your dad. And I'm like, anyway, long story that him and my dad retired from the same company.

SPEAKER_01 7:27

Okay.

SPEAKER_04 7:27

Um, I went over with Rick. Um, this would have been in probably 2012. And how long ago that was, it was I built a 284 Winchester for it. Mostly prone back in the day. Um mostly prone, that'd be a heck of a caliber.

SPEAKER_03 7:43

Honestly.

SPEAKER_04 7:43

It was, yeah. Um, and then I didn't have the money and I worked in Woolfield and just just starting life. I mean, I I got out of school in 09, so um I got married mid-20s. I got married at 10, so we hadn't been married much long, you know, very long. I'm trying to get your feet on the ground, and here I am starting PRS. Um, so anyway, I went out to shoot with Rick, figured out I wanted to build a rifle. About a year later, I had a rifle, and then figured out I had the wrong rifle at that time because then they started shooting positionally, so started down that rabbit hole of trying to evolve the game and and keep up. But yeah, I started hot and heavy in 13.

SPEAKER_03 8:17

13, okay. I uh I a hundred percent remember my first uh actually it was my second match. My first match at at uh was at Rock Castle, LR L R S D and 2000 uh I think it was 2018. It was a super rainy match. My second match was to help come into a classic also that same year. We ended up spawning together. I remember that. Yeah, I I'm like, man, this Dave Streeter guy, like the name is familiar, but everybody's talking to this dude. You know, and I that was an 18. It was an 18, and everybody wanted to come by and like, hey, can I feel your action? What are you doing? And talking shock. And I like I'm just standing there and on. I didn't even know who I was looking at, who I was talking to. We are our first stage on that patch? 12 round stage out of a doghouse. I remember the doghouse. Okay. You go in there, say street and at this point, I didn't know. I didn't know you made it out. I knew you were a good shooter, right? Uh I'm gonna see if I can find the picture and get your if you remember this.

SPEAKER_04 9:21

Oh, you have the picture side.

SPEAKER_03 9:22

I have a oh yeah, yeah, yeah. So say you go in there, and it's there's three windows on the left, three windows on the right, and I I think it was two shots from each window. And you go down one side and then switch the other side. And you had to go basically strong and weekend. And I I saw you go in there, I think you got I think you got a six. You took a six out. I'm like, wow, uh Tate did that. That must be a pretty good score. Um I went in there, also got a six. But I gotta man, I can't believe I'm having a hard time finding this photo. Um so I f I walked out there it is. I walked out there with a little bit of pride. But this is what happened on my very first shot.

SPEAKER_02 10:10

I remember that now.

SPEAKER_03 10:11

Sent that to me.

unknown 10:12

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 10:13

That was oh, it should zoom out of my face. But yeah, I scoped myself. I decided that in the South Dakota, I was gonna beat everybody at the wind, so I came out with a probably an 11-pound TRG. It was it was suppressed too, right? Suppressed? Yep. Yep. 264 wind mag. And we had uh well, I went in there and I I set the rifle down on the target on uh on my windowsill, on a bag, and I looked in the scope, it was a hundred percent on target. I'm like, man, I'm solid. But I had I had no shoulder into it, nothing. I'm just kinda peeking through it. I'm like, here we go. And that thing just poked me. I remember coming like and you know, I didn't know anybody, and I come out of the doghouse, everybody's like, Whoa, what happened? You know, I'm like Did you come by yourself? Well, we were random squattes. So I didn't have any I didn't have any buddies in squad. I met I met a bunch of people that time, right? But um yeah, that was that was an interesting experience for sure. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 11:12

Yeah, that's I don't want to go on another tangent, but that random squatting, you don't like it at the time, and it ends up being a good thing over time.

SPEAKER_03 11:18

Yeah. Dude, I uh I for I mean I forget the gentleman's name. I stayed at his house. He lived in South Dakota. Um we actually went back on vacation there and got dogs and stuff and stayed at his house. Met Tad Anderson, who was he's from one of the Dakotas out there.

SPEAKER_04 11:33

Yeah, he's like a harvester or something.

SPEAKER_03 11:34

Yep. I met Chad Stevens, he was in our squad. Yeah, Richard Dias was in our squad, and he he was the one that called me out and was like, what in the hell are you shooting? And I'm like, ah, 264 win managed. Like, I'm sending 150s at 3110. Like, I should be set out here. And he's like, I'm shooting a six PR. And it was the first time somebody held one of those cases in front of me, and I'm like, really? And he's like, I watched this boat the whole way to the target. I'm like, I don't see anything.

SPEAKER_04 12:02

I was probably shooting a six creed back then, I don't remember, but probably.

SPEAKER_03 12:06

Probably. And I think you shot he shot pretty well that match.

SPEAKER_04 12:09

Yeah, I usually shot, I usually shot pretty good in South Dakota.

SPEAKER_03 12:12

Yeah, that's fun. Um Mad Woman Ranch, I think is that. Yeah, yeah. That was a good match. It was a good place. Yeah. So you started at 13.

SPEAKER_04 12:22

I started shooting OPPS 13. Which if you want to get down to it, OPPS was original PRS one-day series. Oh, yeah. Oh yeah. And it was big. Yeah. It was the training grounds for the big stuff.

SPEAKER_01 12:32

Yep.

SPEAKER_04 12:33

And literally what they did back in that day, there were maybe like 12 PRS matches. And they would literally 12 like pro series. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 12:41

Yep. Yep.

SPEAKER_04 12:42

12 or 14.

SPEAKER_01 12:42

Yep.

SPEAKER_04 12:43

And and whoever had that match that month would try to set up their match to practice for that match. First, the first OPPS match I ever went to was a training match for rifles only.

SPEAKER_01 12:53

Okay.

SPEAKER_04 12:54

We shot at 10 yards. We had to hit it like a little pencil racer thing. We shot off a ladder. We shot off a floating platform. It was the goopiest stuff ever. And I'll be honest, I hated it. And at that time, I had a 6'5-284 with no break on a long actual. And I got like fourth from last.

SPEAKER_01 13:11

Yep.

SPEAKER_04 13:12

And I was like, this is not fun, but I'm about to beat these guys. So I literally, on the way home, I didn't have any money. I got on the way home, I probably got on midway or somewhere like that and bought a barrel, a reamer. I got on a gun broker and bought a some sort of uh short action with the laminate stock. And the very next match was the first match I ever won. I built a 6XC. I didn't pay my $50. So actually at the time Wade beat me for the money, but I won the match by like three or four shots. I put a 6XC together. I went back and chambered it myself in the shop. It didn't have to be. Have you ever chambered one before? No, that was the first one ever. I can do this. I can do this. We had machine shop. So anyway, I learned how to do it. I take two koozies with that McNet wrap to my butt stock and I won that match. And I never will forget Matt Perry. You know Matt. Yeah. He came up to me and he goes, You would have won all this, but you didn't pay. Actually set up P word that wasn't nice. And then he handed it to Wade. And you know, Wade's right there. And I'm like, Good gosh, so I went and got school drug at the first one. I'm like, there's no way I'm paying my money. Yeah. Because I'm just donating. And then I won the second one.

SPEAKER_03 14:17

And uh He told me that story this morning. Wade did. He did. Yeah. Yeah. It was fun. How many, how many folks have been at an OPPS match back then?

SPEAKER_04 14:28

Uh probably about 40.

SPEAKER_03 14:30

Okay. Something like that.

SPEAKER_04 14:31

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 14:31

Decent size one-day match.

SPEAKER_04 14:33

Yeah, for back then it was.

SPEAKER_03 14:34

Yeah. Yeah. That's crazy. And then most of those guys went shot two days, too.

SPEAKER_04 14:38

I would say, I would say 90% of them. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 14:41

Like Rick Reeves, probably there. I mean, he shot a ton of. He was points leader for the PRS for a lot of years.

SPEAKER_04 14:48

For a lot of until about two years ago. Yeah. Maybe three. Yeah, I can't even name them. Justin Vineyard would have been right around in that time.

unknown 14:56

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 14:57

Do you remember third generation shooting supply?

SPEAKER_03 14:59

I don't. No.

SPEAKER_04 15:00

I'm not going to call them the Altist, but they were the place to get your components. And they were in L Rio, Oklahoma. So I could go on the way to matches. Most of the matches are in Western Oklahoma. I had stopped on the way out there, get a keg of powder. Those guys had about five or six guys. You had Dean Morris. There were a lot of guys from out there.

SPEAKER_03 15:17

Keg of powder is probably a hundred bucks, which seemed crazy.

SPEAKER_04 15:21

Probably have a price tag on one, but it wasn't it was like $18 a pound, you know? So yeah, different kinds.

SPEAKER_03 15:28

Different times.

SPEAKER_04 15:28

I actually went to buy powder. I had a bunch of powder and I went to buy powder last year. I was like, holy smokes. I hadn't buy powder in probably three or four years.

SPEAKER_03 15:36

And surprising. But yeah, I mean, I it does seem like it's stabilizing, thank goodness. But so what's uh what were you shooting for two-day matches then? You know, when did you start doing that?

SPEAKER_04 15:47

You mean which matches or two-day, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 15:49

Like what do you remember your first two-day match?

SPEAKER_04 15:51

Oh yeah. Um my first two-day match was Rifles Only.

SPEAKER_01 15:56

Okay.

SPEAKER_04 15:56

Um I remember I'll tell you probably in deep scary detail what place I got and all that. So uh I went to my first match at Rifles Only. We actually went to the train up. Wade and uh Cody Bradshaw, uh, my longest running best buddy. Yeah, we went to the train up before the match, and and uh we shoot the match. And if you hadn't been to Raffles Only, it's a lot of positional, which you know one of the reasons it's a lot of positional is there's only so much they can do with that range. I don't mean that in a bad way, but they have to figure out how to get a lot of rounds down range with, you know, only one place you can shoot a thousand yards. So they have some goofy stuff. They had an old uh rat trap, like three-story shoot house. You shot a mover at 100. Actually, I think it was 80, 120, somewhere in there. Shot paper. Um, you know, you didn't have as many people, so pulling paper didn't matter as much back then. Um got 52nd, but what I remember most about that match is I think we shot five strong side shot the whole match. Five. Everything else, weak side and positional. Woof. And made a lot of money for that chain up and they didn't prep me for that. But um the very next match shot shoot for the green. Probably one of my favorite ranches in Oklahoma, the chain ranch. We had it for a couple of years. Just an absolute awesome place for a field match or anything you're gonna do. And I actually tied weighted for sixth.

SPEAKER_01 17:10

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 17:11

And the day that day I got home, I was so excited, and this sounds bad, but my wife told me she was pregnant with our first kid. And I never will forget Dustin Morris called me and he goes, Hey man, shot. I've seen you enough. I think you got a chance to be good at this, but you better get it done before that kid turns like three or four. Oh my gosh, now you gotta do it. It's like you're on time. Oh, okay, yeah. So uh but anyway. I ate it hard and shot. I don't remember how many matches I shot, but I hit it hard in 14.

SPEAKER_03 17:35

Yeah, 14. Okay. Yeah. And that's about right before when kids three or four. I think you can get away with a lot. You can.

SPEAKER_04 17:43

You got a good wife, you can get away with a lot.

SPEAKER_03 17:45

Yep, for for for quite some time, yeah. And then, you know, life happens, baseball happens, roping happens, stuff like that. You're that should be where you want to spend your time.

SPEAKER_04 17:54

Exactly. Like, I'm my heart's still shooting. I wish there's times I look at it and it's like, I see uh well Derek loved this last week here. Yeah. He went back out and it's like, you know, things have gotten better. Bags have gotten better. We know more about ballistics. So every everything's better. But, you know, you look back, even Wade, Wade can't really go comp well. Wade doesn't show up in a match and compete anymore strongly. Yeah. Could Wade do it? Yeah, the eyesight, you better bet he could. I say, yeah. If you want to put time in, you better bet he could.

SPEAKER_01 18:22

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 18:22

Um, you know, so but then you it's it's so much of an investment in time more than anything. And you know, where my heart is now is is teaching my kids. My I had a great dad when I was young, when he got home from work, he'd do whatever we wanted to do.

SPEAKER_03 18:34

That's cool.

SPEAKER_04 18:35

And I try to do that with my kids. One of my kids wants to play baseball, one of them wants to rope, and I'm gonna try to help them do it as hard as we can.

SPEAKER_03 18:41

Yeah, that's that's what they're gonna remember forever and ever, you know. I mean, this this all helps them have horses and stuff like that, but that's what it's all about.

SPEAKER_01 18:50

Yeah, that's good.

SPEAKER_03 18:52

So when uh let's let's go back to the talk about the evolution of impact. When when did things get kicked off? Like when when did you decide that going from some you know, barrel to action you just found online and you know, screw down a new barrel? Like how did that evolve into I'm gonna build some action?

SPEAKER_04 19:10

Well, I'm probably far enough down the line we can tell the real story now. Uh sometime in around 12, and uh don't quote me on that, but surgeon sold. Yeah, but let's just call it a corporate company.

SPEAKER_03 19:22

Yeah, we know.

SPEAKER_04 19:22

And uh they lost this this the small town, your they lost the heart of the company.

SPEAKER_03 19:27

How far away with a surgeon? It was pretty local, wasn't it?

SPEAKER_04 19:29

Uh about about probably 35 minutes from here.

SPEAKER_03 19:32

Okay.

SPEAKER_04 19:33

Um and they hired Wade on, and they had some other companies, and they were sending Wade everywhere to work for these companies, and and that was about the time Wade's kids in at high school or junior high. And and anyway, he he essentially, and I uh I don't I hope I'm not telling too much. I don't think I am. He told him, he said, Hey, I don't mind going to fix a problem, but I'm not gonna live on the road. And you know, I don't remember what the time frame was, but he's he might have said, Hey, I'm gonna do this for two months and and I'll fix it, I'll train somebody, whatever. Anyway, six, eight months, year down the road, nothing's changed. And that no, it just happens sometimes, right? Um, but anyway, Wade Wade decided he wanted to do studio precision and he needed actions. So I had approached him about I had actually done some roughing work, nothing critical, but you know, for him. And uh Wade wanted some actions. So um Wade came to the shop, we talked about it and decided we're gonna make an action.

SPEAKER_01 20:25

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 20:26

Um I was actually in the I remember sitting down with him and said, Hey, I can't find a sturgeon, they're out of stock. Should I get a bighorn? What should I get? And he just said, Man, let's I need to talk about that, let's make one. So yeah. It took a long time to make one. I ended up, I don't remember what I got in the meantime. Oh, I got a surgeon in the meantime, got it somewhere. But uh, but anyway, it evolved. And I was working, our shop was I say ours. My father-in-law owned a shop and I probably had about 18% of it at the time.

SPEAKER_01 20:50

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 20:51

And I told him, I'm not, this job shop isn't for me. Uh anybody's been to the job shop, and you're kind of person like I am where you like to knock things out, you never get you never get caught up in a job shop. As soon as you get done with a job, you start a job something you did last week. So it's just like it's just a bad. I just knew I didn't want to do that for the rest of my life. So we need to make a part just one thing led to another, it fit, and here we are.

SPEAKER_03 21:14

I mean, I mean, it was yada yadda over the best part. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 21:18

I mean, I did it. So I remember one time sitting down, we had the other side of the shop, which was for the trailer industry, like spindles and hubs and drums. We made it some medical stuff, but I remember telling Wade, oh yeah, I'll make this many a month by this month, and and uh not getting it done. And I we sat on a uh tailgate in a Mexican parking lot and we met halfway. And I remember Wade told me one time, he's like, I don't think I'll pick the right partner here. And uh anyway, yeah, it kind of hit me and I was like, oh no, I'm your guy. You know, but at the time I didn't have a big enough percentage of the shop. And to be honest, my father in law, no matter what he says, um, he probably didn't there's only so many people think you can sell more than 10 actions a month at this much money, you know. And And all the work that goes into it was not an easy task. I can going down that train, I could give somebody all the programs and all the tools, and the blueprint is still not easy. It's hard. You just can't start out and just go. Yeah, it takes you have to be dedicated and go. Um, but you know, we led, I think in 2015 in California, we had about 18 at the finale.

SPEAKER_03 22:20

Okay. Out of a hundred shooters.

SPEAKER_04 22:22

Yeah. And then um, which we rushed to get them out. And then in 19, I'm sorry, 16, we probably had just a little bit more, but in 17, we had aimed for it, but we hadn't we had the majority of the actions in the finale. But in in 19, we were still, I mean, sorry, in 16, yeah, we were probably still only at 300 actions a year. A year. A year. Because it it wasn't our main, it wasn't our main gig. And finally, uh, my father-in-law, which was the majority owner of the shop, um, he finally said, all right, I think it's gonna work because we bought dedicated machines. And in 17, he really kicked off.

SPEAKER_01 22:56

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 22:57

I think he finally believed enough. He hunted and stuff, but he didn't shoot, so he didn't know what was out there. I think by 17 he was like, all right, do whatever you want.

SPEAKER_03 23:05

So Yeah. I mean, he he had to have had so many orders come in and like, how how are we gonna make these? You know, if we already made 500, we got an order for 2,000 more. You know, you see the demand, you have to like, all right, we gotta we gotta dedicate jeans. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 23:23

Yeah, and it was hard a lot of times. You know, I shot, I I think the last year I shot, I shot 16 PRS matches. Last year I really, really shot. Shot 16 PRS matches. And I don't have to tell you, but sometimes we drive all Thursday night, get through Friday morning, and then you leave the banquet Sunday afternoon and drive straight to work, take shower, go straight to work. Um, and and go do, you know, work all week, catch up on the guys you just shot with. You know, they needed an action. Yeah, um, it was fun though. I wouldn't trade it for anything. Yeah, and I talked to my wife about it um a while back. And he said, our kids will never know what that first period was like being gone and being working at night. You know, I'd put them in bed a lot and then get back up to shop and work. I'm sure you remember those things.

SPEAKER_03 24:04

Yeah. That's crazy. Clay told the cold told the story. I think we recorded it. I remember hearing it just a little while ago, but he told the story about it was the year that uh NRL had race gun. And you two had decided, like, hey, one of us is going for PRS points, the other one's going for NRL points. We're gonna go after this. And you did back-to-back weekend in California. And he tells this story about he drove like you guys are both awake. He drove for a long time, and then finally was like, I I gotta toss them to tell him. Or yeah, I think he'd been up the whole night before. I had worked the whole night before, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 24:41

So we were we were driving to um oh Ryan Kerr and uh Charles Roberts had a match. Yeah, we just took I-40 the whole way, I think it was 23 hours. Yeah um drove out there, drove it out there, hopped on the truck, came back, and you know, three or four days later, got on a plane and flew back to San Diego. So it was fun. Sure. You don't have to practice much when you shoot back to back weekends. Yeah. You know, I can remember in the JTEC early days, how much do you practice? Really didn't practice because all of our practice had let up, and we just shot so many matches, you just stayed in tune. Yeah. Um anyway, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 25:15

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SPEAKER_03 25:44

Let's talk about JTEC. When did when did you all start at that idea? Whose idea was it? You guys probably had a match in the top four, all four of you guys, right?

SPEAKER_04 25:56

Why don't we I don't think there were any top fours, but we had some sweeps in the top three a lot. Um if I had to guess, you know, I may be wrong, but 21, do you remember when we came to Wisconsin?

SPEAKER_03 26:06

That that might have been 20. 20? It may have been 21.

SPEAKER_04 26:10

We started the year before we went to Wisconsin, I think. Okay. I think that was our did a couple of them the year before, but that was that was the first big year. And it was like, well, heck, let's do it. Um my guess is, yeah, if I had to guess, it was Clay and Justin's idea, but I don't remember.

SPEAKER_01 26:27

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 26:28

Um I uh, you know, Austin and I were pretty busy at that time. Clay was probably still installing uh security systems. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 26:37

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 26:37

And Justin was trying to do a range of training.

SPEAKER_03 26:41

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 26:41

Justin's Justin. Well put.

SPEAKER_03 26:44

Yeah. That's crazy. I didn't realize that. I thought you guys were really well established before having you guys.

SPEAKER_04 26:51

I don't think it was, I think it was the second year.

SPEAKER_03 26:53

Yeah. That might have been the last podcast we did together. Did you guys have the JTAC podcast before we recorded that in our living room? May have been. Yeah. It doesn't seem like that long.

SPEAKER_04 27:04

It doesn't. Yeah. I stole a rock. Well, I didn't steal it, but I brought a rock con from that range. Do you remember me asking to bring that big old rock con?

SPEAKER_03 27:10

I do. It's in my yard. It is. Yeah. It was up by that top gate. That's it. Yeah. Yeah, it was heavy.

SPEAKER_04 27:16

I asked someone and said, Hey, I need y'all to help me load this rock. They're like, What do you brought that rock home? I was like, I don't know, but it's going home with me. I like it.

SPEAKER_03 27:21

It looks cool. The old Wisconsin rock. That's funny. Wisconsin rock. Yeah. That was good times. Yeah. You do you still uh participate with the J Tech training when you can?

SPEAKER_04 27:32

Man, you know, I I Austin Bushman, so I handed it over to Austin Bushman. Yeah. Um, thinking he would want it. But I think Austin Organe has him so busy he doesn't. But um I got busy with the kids and um, you know, I coach my mint my eight-year-old, my eight-year-old and um coach pitch. Yeah, I'm the head coach.

SPEAKER_01 27:49

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 27:50

And um, man, we play, we don't, I don't want to play travel ball. He he honestly wants to play travel ball.

SPEAKER_01 27:56

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 27:57

He ropes with us too.

SPEAKER_01 27:58

Okay.

SPEAKER_04 27:59

And uh we fish and um I don't I'm not gonna say anybody has their kid in travel ball at eighth wrong, but we play as serious as we can be on his development and maybe play two tournaments like April through July, a week. Two tournaments weekend.

SPEAKER_03 28:14

Yep, yep. And two tournaments month, yeah. Yeah, two tournaments.

SPEAKER_04 28:17

Oh, that's what I mean. Two tournaments months.

SPEAKER_03 28:18

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 28:18

And um that's just enough. Um, you know, and then if I schedule a JSAP class three months from now, and then we have a tournament that's handy. Yeah, it's the time, yeah. Um, I told them I would do it this year if they if they've if they you know sold out a class or had some extras and hasn't happened yet. Yeah. Um it seems like everybody's getting busier. You know, Clay's about to have a baby, and Austin's two, and and uh it's just getting harder to schedule.

SPEAKER_03 28:44

Wouldn't surprise me if Jess has another couple. Yeah, that would surprise me. Yeah. Uh we're in the same boat, man. Like uh my son William is 10. He started he started uh travel, select ball, whatever when he was eight. And the same thing. I'm just like we did four four tournaments between April and and July, and that's enough. Like, especially for an eight-year-old that's trying to figure it out. We did that for a couple years. Uh Missy and I didn't really agree with some of the coaching methodology that was that we were seeing. Uh William was kind of victim to a few things that maybe weren't in his control, and it's like okay, we're we're gonna give this our all, give it the best experience that we can. Like I need a coach. So we went to another team, I became the head coach, and you know, I and Missy Fight out said, like you realize you're gonna have to you have to be here. You're gonna have to be you're gonna be able to do what you want to do. You know, go out and shoot a ton of matches. And honestly, it was kind of a blessing. You know, I kind of looked at it that way. I'm like, there's a lot of matches that I want to shoot between April and July, but I want to be home, you know. And so that's the choice we made and it's good.

SPEAKER_04 29:59

I was worried that, you know, business would go down, people wouldn't understand it, but I think there's enough people that understand it, you know, that actually would rather buy from, you know, and then you make that decision. Um when I was younger, matches took priority. Not telling you I wanted to skip out of my kids, I spent all week with them.

SPEAKER_01 30:14

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 30:14

Uh my kids have all if I'm home during the week and I go somewhere, they go with me. Doesn't matter. They just go with me. And um, but now it's definitely I I can't just say, hey, I'm gonna go to a match next weekend. There's things. Kids have real tears. They're old enough, they why don't you want to be with me? Kind of tiers, you know? Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 30:31

Um, and add a match too. If there's 150 shooters there, there's 125 ambassadors of impact precision, you know.

SPEAKER_04 30:39

Yeah. I'm gonna make it out some. I keep saying I am. I'm shooting, I'm signed up for Watts' match in May.

SPEAKER_03 30:44

Okay. Spring show showdown, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 30:46

So I haven't uh it took me this long to get smart, but I'm probably gonna have to shoot August, September, October from now on because that's about the time our baseball slows down. So I think what I'm gonna save my energy and hit it hard then and then be in tune for the finale if I wanted to shoot it. Hell yeah.

SPEAKER_03 31:02

We'd love to have you there. Finale's in Arkansas this year. It's not that far. Four hours. That's all. Okay, let's go.

SPEAKER_04 31:09

Actually, I think I can beat him. Yeah, it's real close. Yeah. Um get on I-40 and go.

SPEAKER_03 31:13

Yeah. Man, that'd be awesome to have you there. That would be cool. So let's uh let's talk about let's talk about impact. Uh 737 is the action of choice, right? There's a few guys out there running the goofy bolt eject port, Austin Bush, but have you made one of those? He's so he's he's left-handed. Well, he's right-handed shooting left eye. And it's a left bolt right eject. Yeah, that's not on the website.

SPEAKER_04 31:42

It's not on the website.

SPEAKER_03 31:44

Probably don't want to make too much.

SPEAKER_04 31:46

He picked up a cert somewhere. No, you know, anytime somebody asks me to make something special, I usually don't email back and say, no, we don't like that, or we won't make that. I usually take time to call them because, you know, I like making people happy and I don't like unlocking jerk. But in the same time, I can make that one guy happy. I can make four guys happy on a regular one.

SPEAKER_01 32:07

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 32:08

So not only is it a bad business decision, but I'm actually making other people wait on the easy stuff.

SPEAKER_03 32:13

So everybody's waiting on Bushman.

SPEAKER_04 32:15

Bushman, Bushman wants a serve, and he goes, hey, I want one, but I I want it to be left bolt, right eject. I'm like, oh, I want him shooting impact. Okay. So anyway, we made some. And we were slower back then too. That was I don't remember how long that was. That was probably back in 2020 or 2021. So we made it.

SPEAKER_01 32:31

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 32:32

And, you know, I can't do everything. Um, my main guy can't do everything. Just never fails. You scrap four of them before you get a good one, you know. Um and then, you know, but no, we don't make them anymore.

SPEAKER_03 32:44

And that action won two world championships. And a golden bullet.

SPEAKER_04 32:48

And a golden bullet.

SPEAKER_03 32:49

Yeah, I'd say it was worth your time.

SPEAKER_04 32:51

It was worth the time. The first lefty I made was for Orgain.

SPEAKER_03 32:54

Okay. Um That was the very first lefty.

SPEAKER_04 32:57

Very first one, yeah. It's actually a pretty cool story. That was in 17, and we were buddies. We were shooting buddies. Actually, I don't remember the years. They're getting, I'm getting old and they're getting longer away. Anyway, I think in 15, about the same story for Clay Blackhead. I go to OPPS match, and I I think I want it. Probably won it. Clay comes up to me and he goes, I'm gonna beat you one day. And I'm like, cool, okay. Like you could tell it was on his mind. And he told me serious, and I thought about it, but I'm like, okay. And uh I remember setting in South Dakota and Austin came up to me and he goes, You got me by one point, but I'm about to beat you. And I'm like, okay, whatever. But in 17, Austin said he'd swap, so I got him a lefty. And that finale was at Matt Clem's where the heat stroke was held. And uh I he he sent it here. I never will forget he sent it here. We wanted to check it. Um, got it going, nailed his rifle back, UPS lost it. Two or three weeks before the finale, UPS lost it. And uh ended up getting it back about a week before the finale, but it was probably gone for seven to ten days. And uh when finally called and's like, hey, I'm gonna have to call the ATF. They're gonna have to come in your facility and look for this. So it's in your best interest to look for a rifle-sized case and tell me where it's at. Anyway, he got it back. But those lefties, those lefties are kind of a pain.

SPEAKER_03 34:09

Yeah, yeah. But all right, well, let's talk about how many impacts have one golden bullet. How many of those are left? Three of them.

SPEAKER_02 34:17

Three of them.

SPEAKER_03 34:18

So those are how many bullets? Uh seven. Half of them.

SPEAKER_04 34:24

Seven.

SPEAKER_03 34:24

It's their fifteenth year. It's a half.

SPEAKER_04 34:27

Yep, seven.

SPEAKER_03 34:28

Very likely this will put you past half.

SPEAKER_04 34:30

Yeah, I think it was seven at the last seven at the last eight. At one time now it's seven to last nine. Still what I'll say.

SPEAKER_03 34:35

So yeah. How many uh I was gonna ask how many, how many left-handed three of them were? How many who was the right-handed ones?

SPEAKER_04 34:44

Four, I guess. Uh Clay, Rousseau had two. Yeah. Bengasa. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 34:50

Okay. Yeah, it's a recent two, yeah. And what uh see what else in the works? What what can we talk about impact? So you got 737 lefties, righties, mostly righties. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 35:03

Man, it's yeah, the MBK Ultralight, trying to get in the hunting crowd. You know what's a it's a funny thing around here. About the time in summer when the sales go down, they just always drew.

SPEAKER_03 35:17

Across the industry, it's like across the industry, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 35:19

100%. It always happens like clockwork. You can you can bet June, July, and August are gonna slow down, and September somewhere towards the end, it's gonna pick back up. And um, and then right now you just don't even know what you're gonna do to get parts. Um, you start thinking of new stuff. So we dreamed boats are light up last summer. Um, and then here we are, can't make enough. So right now the only thing I can focus on is getting parts to customers and making them happy.

SPEAKER_01 35:43

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 35:44

Um up in production. We have gone into the automation a little bit. As you saw, I had a couple of robots down there. Yeah. Have a third one on the way and trying to make more of what we make. Uh my main focus has and still will be I still touch every action that goes out the door. Um I I said in the beginning I wasn't gonna head that off, and I'm still not going to, but I don't know how much more I can how much more I can do.

SPEAKER_03 36:09

So uh I mean UPS was just here like an hour ago.

SPEAKER_01 36:13

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 36:13

And it was all actions that left. Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_01 36:16

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 36:16

Yeah. And I re I I took a peek at some of the names. And it's it's all the ones you would expect, right? Like Altus was there, DI precision was there. Yeah, probably mile high. Mile high, exactly. Yeah. So you're constantly shipping.

SPEAKER_04 36:28

Constantly.

SPEAKER_03 36:28

Yeah, and you gotta touch every one of those. What what do you what what are you looking looking for when you're doing your final check?

SPEAKER_04 36:34

So Lance, you met earlier. He's he's done the website and lifelong buddy. He's gonna be shooting PRS. Guys are gonna know him.

SPEAKER_03 36:40

That's awesome. They're going through. He said he shot 58%.

SPEAKER_04 36:43

First match ever. Never been to the one, never even shot a stage, never even shot a mock stage, just goes out cold turkey 58%.

SPEAKER_03 36:48

58% is good. And I told him, I'm like, that's what I finished at Fox Canyon last week, and I've got quite a few more matches underneath my belt.

SPEAKER_04 36:55

I feel bad. I haven't. I've got a ranger at the house, nothing special, but you know, I want to go give him some pointers, but anyway, Lance came in and and took the bolts assembly away, which is one of the most critical things. Yeah. Um, making sure everything functions how it should. Um, so now he literally has the axles together and the bolts together. I put them in and just make sure there's nothing goofy, double check headspace, uh, double, double check um ejection and extraction. Yeah. Uh I do measure um, you know, I'm gonna admit it, we've had probably 10 actions to go out where the indexing wasn't correct, still work, but the indexing wasn't right. Um, so I double, actually triple check that now. Yeah. Um, you know, and just fill a thing and make sure I don't have another go out through because I literally get sick to my stomach when something goes out the door, it's goofy. And most of the time it's not out. As you're here today, while he was here today, we had a guy bring a uh uh a barrel to action back in and and and he put the trigger in and something wasn't the matter with it. And I said, he was an hour away, so I said, just bring it in. I'll look at it. I can do that way faster than if you talk over the phone. Well, the trigger was was backwards. Yeah, or triggering. The hanging was backwards, the triggers in it. So um and there's uh there's areas that obviously we can improve on literature and videos and stuff like that. Um, but you know, just trying to get better all the time. Yeah stuff. I can sit here and focus on making a video for that or can go make actions and have people you know screaming at me if I'm making videos and whatever.

SPEAKER_03 38:24

You just can't make them fast enough. Yeah, we'll make the videos for you, by the way. Yeah, yeah, we could we'll we'll do that part, and then you just keep making actions.

SPEAKER_04 38:31

Yeah, Megan shot some cool videos of the um MDK Ultralight last time. I haven't told I just haven't told her to get rid of it yet. So um there's a there's a certain we're in a situation where you can only advertise, you can overadvertise where you can't ship them, then you get people mad at you. Yeah, that's a problem. Right now our orders are I mean, I'm probably 10 weeks back on the ultralight and I haven't even been officially taking orders. So handshakes everywhere. Yeah, handshakes everywhere. That's cool. Uh guys just demand, hey, put me down for these. Like, okay, you're not really on order. I can't tell you lead time, but we're coming. Okay.

SPEAKER_03 39:08

So yeah. Man, we're proud to have you guys the official action at PRS. It's awesome to see the the amount of growth that you guys have had. I mean, it if you go back to 2012, you know, it's all all surgeons, right? And maybe some accuracy international. I mean, what else? You know? We're only with bat maybe bighorn for big born.

SPEAKER_04 39:30

Yeah, bat. There were some bats. You know, I don't I don't think they did well, they probably did precision rapid blog, at least in 13, because that's how I bought some of my stuff. So yeah. Um surgeon, surgeon ruleberry.

SPEAKER_03 39:39

Surgeon was it, yeah. Yeah, and there's a lot of roots of surgeon that uh picked up here, obviously, right? I mean some of that stuff. Yeah.

unknown 39:48

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 39:49

The number one thing, and it was a pain in the rear. The number one thing, and and I'll say this a compliment to Wade, but it's because he was lazy. But you know, we technically were the first shoulder pre-fit.

SPEAKER_01 39:59

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 40:00

Wade came in and was all right, we got everything right now. Now you need to time these thirds have to be timed and you have to hold headspace. And I'm like, I thought we just had something done, and then I'm like, oh my gosh, like he just threw this curveball at me. But yeah, you know, I think it, I think it's been one of the main reasons we got popular quick. Because in 2013, I'm telling you right now, you would never have thought you you would have bought a prefit off the shelf and had fun at all.

SPEAKER_03 40:23

So dude, I I remember this probably probably was 2016, 2017, maybe early 18. I don't know. Somewhere in there, I remember where I was standing on the front porch of our house. I was having a conversation with Andy Folk. You remember him? Oh yeah. Yeah, Illinois, Illinois shooting.

SPEAKER_01 40:38

Jim C's buddy.

SPEAKER_03 40:38

Yep, Jim C's buddy, and he was a gutsmith. I forget what he called us.

SPEAKER_04 40:43

We sold a lot to him.

SPEAKER_03 40:44

You did. But I remember having a conversation with him, and he's like, Man, I we've been running Impax here for a little while, and that's all that's all we recommend. You know, it's having him build build build me a rifle. And that's you couldn't say enough good about it.

SPEAKER_04 40:58

When I bought my surgeon, it came you had to put the extractor in, you had to put the ejector in, you had to put the bolt stop in, and they shipped it because most of them back then were getting seracoded, so they shipped them in pieces so they didn't have to disassemble them. Yeah. I was like, why in the heck? Wade, Wade, I don't, I don't, I'm not claiming anything, but I was like, why don't we just put it together where they unbox it and screw a barrel on it? Yeah anyway, it's like seemed like a smart idea.

SPEAKER_03 41:19

Yeah, that's how I would expect it.

SPEAKER_04 41:20

It's a pain, but yeah, you know, I still put together bolts. It's not like we make perfect parts all the time, but me filling up them, me putting them on a barrel, yeah, I prevent a lot of things going out. I'd literally take that bolt and throw in the trash, like you know if something's off. Like um, because you'll it's amazing what you'll find when you do.

SPEAKER_03 41:37

So you can yeah, I mean you can feel every little nuance.

SPEAKER_04 41:40

I pretty much know what it is now.

SPEAKER_03 41:42

Okay. Without you don't have to measure.

SPEAKER_04 41:45

You know, I mean you could you know it's funny you say that because I can almost see stuff with my eyes. I can almost tell you with my eyes when something's off.

SPEAKER_03 41:52

Calibrated eyes.

SPEAKER_04 41:53

Yeah, calibrated eyes. I uh I told Lance, Lance is very talented, like I told you, he puts together the bolts now. And and in about he's been here since last February, probably in six months. I've had three bolts that I didn't like when I got them, which is a good number.

SPEAKER_01 42:07

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 42:07

And uh he said, when are you gonna let go of ax until you go a year without one bad one? And uh, you know, and he was just joking with him, but but yeah, I don't I can't imagine sending something and I have a function check out the door and then getting surprised. Because then I wouldn't know, right? But if I function test it, and the guy that bought the barreled axe back today, I'm like, man, I touched this. I touched it. So, you know, is it have you fired anything? No, I just put it together. I was like, well, something's goofy on brand. So it it's nice. I sleep better at not knowing that.

SPEAKER_03 42:34

Yeah. Yeah, that's crazy. Hey, and man, having consistent headspace, like that was a game changer for our sport, right? I mean, when you guys when you have guys that I don't know, probably you know, uh a guy that's just shooting regional matches and three, four, five pro series matches, he's gonna go through a barrel or two. And you know, that guy is trying to be loss conscious or whatever, like that's a perfect action.

SPEAKER_04 43:01

Yeah, and the other flip side of that is if you want to go hunting with that rifle and you want to change calories in the fall, you just swap it. You got your your investment in your your major investment, your scope, yeah, stock, bottom middle. I mean, you can you can just swap a barrel and go.

SPEAKER_01 43:12

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 43:13

Um Wade Wade called me one night. I I I'm getting old enough, I don't really care about what I say, but Bran, the guy that makes the uh Prometheus, okay. He called Wade one night and he had a couple drinks and he he said, You guys are idiots if you think you can hold headspace across all these actions. And uh Wade took it to a little defense, he got a little defensive, and he called me and he's like, Are you sure you can do it? I'm like, plus or minus a half, yeah, I'm sure I can do it. We're talking two thousand.

SPEAKER_03 43:39

Like on the what what it what is our what is uh plus or minus seven tenths.

SPEAKER_04 43:43

So so so standard go gauge will be plus or minus two. We we hold plus or minus seven tenths on our assembly, and the barrel print is plus or minus a half a thousand. So we technically only use plus or minus a thousand and two tenths. We leave ourselves a little bit of window for something to not be.

SPEAKER_03 44:00

Um that's yeah, and that's I mean for for machining, that's that's really good to talk.

SPEAKER_04 44:06

Right.

SPEAKER_03 44:06

Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 44:08

Yeah, so it's not that it's not that impossible, but I uh you know he told us we couldn't do it, and I actually canceled my Prometheus. I was like, I'm not but uh it's funny how it all evolved. I have nothing against the guy, but I he probably is what I needed because it's like all right, I'm gonna show this guy we can do it.

SPEAKER_03 44:26

Yeah, yeah. Work best under those circumstances.

SPEAKER_04 44:28

We threw a lot of them right, but actually, everybody asked why you have the R in front of the serial number. When it started out, we thought we were gonna scrap a lot of bolts. So we were gonna do R for race gun uh to have to be prefig compatible. We were gonna do H for anything else that was out of headspace.

SPEAKER_03 44:47

Race gun and hunt.

SPEAKER_04 44:48

Yeah, and hunt. And uh opened up after about a month. I said, I don't we're not gonna have very many of those, so figured it out. That was it. That was NCR.

SPEAKER_03 44:55

That was it. Lefties have an L. Yeah. Yeah. So now it's left and right, but it whatever.

SPEAKER_04 45:02

Yeah. Yep, it's evolved. I guess we could talk a long time. You made fun of Eric going, yada yada through all the good stuff, but I can get only sad stories for a long time, you know.

SPEAKER_03 45:14

So NBK Ultra Light coming out. Obviously, that's gonna be a big hit for uh uh the PR's pursuit series that we're coming up with, and it's gonna be very uh weight specific. That's a great action for that. How much how much less weight is it over a 737R?

SPEAKER_04 45:30

Oh, or 737R? Um it's five ounces lighter than the other MBK, so it's gonna be somewhere in the neighborhood of 11 ounces. 11 ounces less. 1112 can on the bulk. Most of those are Magbolt face, most 737Rs are 308, so it's not really apples to apples, but yeah, yeah. You know, it's really cool. It's coming over. It's a lot of guys like it. I didn't want, and I'm not gonna name any names, but if you cut all that material out, it's hard to hold them straight through nitride and any hardening process. So, you know, keeping that bridge in there and and popping it at it, it keeps it rigid. And um, I mean it it looks cool too. It's way it looks way cooler than I thought it was gonna get. Yeah, it's yeah.

SPEAKER_03 46:09

Um anyway. Um what's the what's the long-term future for the regular FK? That's a I mean that's a great, it's what, six ounces lighter than a 7375.

SPEAKER_04 46:20

Yeah, so um, you know, Joe Walls, one of my best buddies, he's still gonna order the MBK.

SPEAKER_01 46:26

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 46:27

Um, you know, the the skeleton eyes is harder to clean, you're gonna get dirt and stuff in there. What I like about it is, you know, four liken pursuit series is now I can add five more ounces of barrel. So I want the heaviest barrel I can have. Yeah, that's an inch a barrel. Um, so that's a benefit to me. Yeah. Um I don't, you know, guys are into you know the sheep rifle stuff. There's still lighter options out there. I'm not I like building what we use.

SPEAKER_01 46:53

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 46:53

So uh, you know, as far as speaker off for me, it's gonna let me get five ounces somewhere else over in MBK.

SPEAKER_03 46:58

Yeah. And you can and realistically, you could still shoot a regular PRS match with it, right? I mean, if you're weight conscious with it or if you just want to buy one action, that's everything.

SPEAKER_04 47:07

Yeah, the only con is that one piece mount, which will work on it. Um, you know, the the the only con is that one piece mount really doesn't fit well on eco to rings.

SPEAKER_03 47:16

Yeah, but you can you can you can do a two-piece tactical, heavy tactical, whatever. You're good, yeah. Yeah, yeah, it's a great action. Uh it's awesome how the sport has evolved. You guys have been a huge part of it. You've been a huge part of it, right? And Wade and all that. Like it's uh it's it's totally cool. I don't know. It feels like an honor to be a small part of this coming from the guy at South Dakota that just blew his face up on his first two shots, you know? Well, same.

SPEAKER_04 47:45

It's crazy how in 2000 and what year was that? 18? 18, I think. Yeah. Yeah. Way back. We would have never guessed we'd be right here.

SPEAKER_03 47:56

Yeah. Down here in Oklahoma, man. I love it. I love getting come down here and see you guys.

SPEAKER_04 48:01

Yeah, Luke, I think it was 78 degrees on a town a lot ago. What is it back in Wisconsin?

SPEAKER_03 48:06

We, you know what? It was 70 degrees there, I think on Monday. Um it is not 70 degrees there now, I can tell you that. Snow burdening. It is nice. Oh man, it's gonna take me way too long to you don't have the greatest cell phone signal here.

SPEAKER_04 48:26

No, I have good internet, but not not cell phone signal.

SPEAKER_03 48:30

Yeah, I think today's like a high fifty, but that's alright. We'll be playing baseball outside soon. I I can't wait for it. You know, we're we're still doing it's indoor ball and all that, but uh yeah. We'll be outside.

SPEAKER_04 48:42

Y'all have in in like just in a practice facility, or do you actually have a field?

SPEAKER_03 48:46

No, it's just a practice facility. I was gonna say that's pretty that would be that would be baller.

SPEAKER_04 48:50

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 48:50

If I ever won the lottery, there would be signs that it's gonna be an indoor ballpark, you know, in the in Wisconsin with the shooting range behind it, you know.

SPEAKER_04 48:57

Right. Well, good to have you for sure.

SPEAKER_03 49:00

Yeah, Tate, thank you very much, brother. Keep that. Thank you.