The Bra Debate And Other Things We Should Not Say Out Loud

Three opinionated women over 70 walk into a podcast and nobody reaches for a filter. We’re Wife-in-Law Plus One, straight out of East Texas, and we’re here for real laughs, real stories, and the kind of honesty you only get after you’ve lived long enough to stop performing for other people. 

I'm Sandi Holt, joined by my wife-in-law, and our fabulous Plus One, Jan Pain. We start by explaining the “wife-in-law” twist: I married Carolyn’s ex-husband, and somehow Carolyn and I became best friends instead of enemies. From porch coffee to weekly meetups at our favorite local spot, our friendship sets the tone for everything that follows. You’ll hear a classic East Texas meet- Mr. Cute from Gindy Kimbrough that begins at a veterinarian’s office, involves a poodle named Fifth, and ends with a pound cake resulting in a 52-year marriage. 

From there, we bounce through the stories that shaped us: Trinity School ties, a gala night, and the unforgettable college drop-off at TCU that turns into a decisive U-turn back home. We laugh about Texas big hair, Queen for the Day memories, and why people used to dress up just to fly. Then we get into the modern stuff listeners actually wrestle with: the pros and cons of social media, what nostalgia gets right and wrong, and why AI in education and national security raises real questions. 

If you’re looking for an East Texas podcast about aging with confidence, friendship after divorce, small-town culture, and unfiltered conversations from women who’ve seen it all, you’re in the right place. Subscribe, share with a friend who needs a laugh, and leave a review. What topic do you want us to tackle next?

Transcript

Welcome To Wife-in-Law Plus One

SPEAKER_00 0:22

You're listening to the Wife-in-Law plus one. Real life. Real laughs. Real women. Straight out of East Texas. Three powerhouse ladies over 70. Proving that life doesn't slow down. It levels up. Unfiltered, unapologetic, unstoppable. Wife-in-law plus one.

SPEAKER_03 0:42

Well, I probably should warn you that what you're about to hear is pretty much what happens when three opinionated women over 70 get microphones. So bear with us and I hope you enjoy. So here we are. Now every week we bring you honest, hilarious, East Texas style conversations about real life. Now, just so you know, there'll be no politics, no religious debates, and absolutely no judgment on our part. But let's be honest, there might be some gossip. Nothing mean spirited, of course, just the kind that you'll lean in for. And if someone well, if someone lets a cuss word out, Carolyn, I haven't quite learned the beep button yet, so try not to do that. What to expect? Well, we'll talk about everything from social media nonsense to well why men would rather get lost than just ask for directions. And we'll invite you to join in the conversation via text or phone call. We will also give you our no BS reviews of local businesses. We will share our favorite finds around town, and we're gonna have monthly prizes because we can't. Why not? This is the Wife-in-Law Plus One. Expect no filters, no judgment.

SPEAKER_01 2:10

No apologies.

SPEAKER_03 2:19

Oh my gosh,

How The Wife-in-Law Friendship Works

SPEAKER_03 2:20

we're so excited about this podcast. I've gotten great reviews so far on just our preview. And I'm here, of course, with my wife-in-law, Carolyn. Hey Carolyn. Hi, Sandy. And our plus one for the day, Jan Payne. Hey Jan. Hi, Sandy. So we're gonna just get right into it. I wanted to let you know that we are not sister wives by any stretch of the imagination. My wife-in-law, uh Carolyn, because I married her ex-husband. And you know, that's a whole story that we'll talk about uh eventually. At any rate, Carolyn and I are now besties. You know, we just roll along and have the greatest time. Just to give you a little insight of how it all works. When I I lived in Aubrey, Carolyn would come visit for the weekend and she'd spend the night in our guest quarters. Next morning early, we'd sit out on the front porch and rock on the rocking chairs and have our coffee and talk about life. Then Wayne would wake up and poke his head out the front door and just look out at us and just kind of shake his head and fall. And just go, I don't believe this, and just walk back in as if he might maybe he dreamed it or something. But anyway, it has been that way for years. It's just a lovely relationship, don't you think, Carolyn?

SPEAKER_07 3:45

Oh, yes, we've had a wonderful, wonderful relationship.

SPEAKER_03 3:49

Yeah, yeah, it's

The Telly’s Crew And A Meet Cute

SPEAKER_03 3:51

been good. This whole podcast kind of came to mind for me because when I became friends with Carolyn's friends, and I'm so blessed that they welcomed me into their tribe, it turns out that about once a week everyone meets at local restaurant, usually Telly's, and we love Telly's. We love Tellies.

SPEAKER_06 4:11

Great bar.

SPEAKER_03 4:12

Yeah, great bar, Mexican restaurant. And they treat us well and they let us be loud and silly and goofy. And anyway, I got to sit in and being so entertained by everybody, the stories they tell, and the laughter, and I just kept thinking, oh my gosh, more people need to hear this. I actually have a recording of one of the individuals that always uh joins us at Telly's, and I thought this might be a good time to interject it here in the podcast.

SPEAKER_01 4:43

So she tells a story about how she met her husband, and it's delightful. It's about three minutes long, and I'm going to put it in right now. Ladies and gentlemen, meet Andy Kimbrough.

SPEAKER_05 4:56

One thing I've got to tell you when I met my husband. And I was like 23, I think, 24, I think. And I thought it was going to be an old maid. So I had to take my little poodle in to see old Dr. Zimiki. And I was living in Henderson at the time, and so I had to come over here to Longview. So I did. Dr. Pete was looking at my little his name was Fifth. Fifth, and he was a little toy poodle. And he said, Well, what's why I said, Well, he's just had so many solar fruits. And I we just can't seem to get him well. And he had that old cigar, you know, remind me of old what Groucho. Groucho marks. Yes. Had that cigar over there, and he kind of laughed. And so he said, uh, hollered for Kenny, my husband, said, Come up here and hold this dog. Now you haven't met Kenny yet. No. So I guess it was kind of like love at first sight. And he, and I would have never thought I was going to marry a veterinarian.

SPEAKER_03 5:55

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 5:56

And because, you know, I'm just not, I don't do a lot of cows and horses, but I have learned since we've been married.

SPEAKER_02 6:03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 6:03

But anyway, and I thought, now how am I going to get back to see this guy here? He's so good looking, you know, like headed blue. Yeah. And I said, How am I going to get back to see him? I now my husband would die, but if I told Teddy this, but I thought he was a water boy. And he said, Gandhi, I'm not a water boy. I'm a candle boy, you know, and he had just been accepted in the vet school, which I didn't know. My mother said, Well, he may be a water boy. You don't even know anything about him. I said, I didn't, but I said, I've got to think of some reason to have to come back here and meet him. And so anyway, I looked it up and old Dr. P and I said, Well, Dr. P, he's had so many sore throats. Why don't you just can you pull his tonsils out? Can he have a tonsil anctomy? He I am telling the doctor what to do. But I was thinking, what can I do to get back over here? He said, Well, yeah, we can do it. I said, Well, why don't we just do it? And he said, Okay, he said, we'll do it. You pick him up tomorrow. And my mother had always taught me, wait till man's heart is do the stomach. So I went home and made a pound cake. And the next day we went to pick up Fift. I came in and gave him the pound cake. And two good things came out of that. He asked me to go for a date July the 4th out at Lake Cherokee, and we did. And my dog Fifth never was sick again and really died. That's a great story. And we've been married 52 years, December.

SPEAKER_01 7:54

So there you have it, a little smidgen of what you're about to hear on the weekly podcast of The Wife in Law Plus One.

SPEAKER_03 8:04

Jan, you're one of the usual suspects there at Telly's. Do you know when that all started? Where you guys started getting together?

SPEAKER_06 8:12

Well, we we have known each other, the group that we meet with through Trinity School, where I worked. So we've been friends for a very, very, very long time. So sure enough, now we see each other every week. Yes. And and Carolyn and I have been friends for a very, very long time.

SPEAKER_02 8:33

Yes.

SPEAKER_06 8:33

I was friends with her when she was married to your husband. Okay. We have lots of stories to tell about that. Yes. That was an interesting relationship.

SPEAKER_03 8:42

Oh yes. I I heard a little bit. How long have you lived in Longview, Jane?

SPEAKER_06 8:48

Seventy four years.

SPEAKER_03 8:51

Oh, so since you were born?

SPEAKER_06 8:52

I was two years old. My father was a general surgeon, and they really didn't have a certified general surgeon in Longview, so that's why we moved here.

SPEAKER_03 9:02

Well, we don't. And Carolyn, you've lived in Longview for how long?

SPEAKER_07 9:06

Off and on, over 40 years. I know where the bones are bigger. Yeah, she does.

SPEAKER_03 9:14

Oh boy. Oh boy. Stuff that will go to your grave, right? Possibly. I've heard you guys say that I was a Yankee. I heard that the other day at Telly's. Now I I take a little offense to that. I'm not a Yankee. I'm a Midwestern. I was born and raised in Michigan. And then I've lived in Texas for way over 20 years. So I think you can call me a Texan, right?

SPEAKER_06 9:40

Sandy.

SPEAKER_03 9:41

What?

SPEAKER_06 9:41

Texans think anybody that's born north of the Mississippi River is Yankee. I heard it was a dirty word in Texas. The Texans are from the South and they think they know it all.

SPEAKER_07 9:53

I'm just gonna say well, you know the South's gonna rise again. Uh-huh. It is.

Trinity School Bonds And The TCU U Turn

SPEAKER_03 10:00

So the other night, speaking of the Trinity School, you had your annual gala. We did. And was it wonderful?

SPEAKER_06 10:07

It was. Carol and I went and we had our picture taken at the very front. They have a display for you to have your picture taken. And we thought we looked pretty good for two old brawls.

SPEAKER_03 10:17

Yeah, didn't we, Carol?

SPEAKER_07 10:19

Some of those young girls said when we grow up, we're going to be like y'all. Yeah. They did.

unknown 10:24

They did.

SPEAKER_03 10:25

They did. Well, you know, I was going to donate a painting and I missed the whole thing, you know. You guys kind of kept me out of the loop, darn it. Well, we didn't do it. It wasn't intentional. Okay.

SPEAKER_06 10:36

I just forgot about it.

SPEAKER_03 10:37

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 10:38

You know, I think I picked one out, but I never took it off your wall.

SPEAKER_03 10:42

You did, yeah. So at any rate, Katie, she went almost her entire school life in Trinity, didn't she? Mm-hmm. Yeah. And so I'll never forget the day that she went off to college. She was accepted at TCU and and we were all excited for her. And she went there, and the first night she calls her daddy and she's crying. She says, Daddy, I don't know if I can handle it here. Nobody knows me. So she, you know, she was used to I mean, that was her life, you know.

SPEAKER_07 11:16

And Trinity is just a family. Yeah, it is.

SPEAKER_03 11:20

Yeah, it's a great school, and and yeah, and so any of you out there that have children that you're thinking about taking to uh exclusive, elite, wonderful environment, uh Trinity's the school.

SPEAKER_07 11:34

Well, let me intervene on uh this TCU little trip. Yes. We got there that day and it was hotter than Hey D's, like hotter in the devil's front porch. Well, we got in there, got unpacked, got everything was lovely. We got hooked up to the internet, the Ethernet, the whatever net. We had it all. Yes. So we're going to eat, and she's sitting across the table from me, and her eyes just tear up, and she is sobbing uncontrollably. And she says, Mama, I just don't I just can't. I scan. Mama, you just can't leave me. Well, now let me tell you, if you think you're gonna leave them and they're telling you to mama, please don't leave me. Well, I s I thought to myself, Well, you know what, self? We still got those boxes in the car, we'll just pack them back up down back to East Texas. So we did. The next morning we went over to Professor Brown in the TCU school, and he said, Well, we're gonna have to issue, I guess, a small ordinance like you do in Congress to get her discharge from the school for her to get her things. I looked at him and I said, Let me explain something to you. You know what I'm saying here. We already packed her up. We just gave you a polite acknowledgement that we're leaving. As in now. Yes.

SPEAKER_05 13:15

Goodbye.

SPEAKER_07 13:17

See ya when we just we come on back to the woo. Yeah, yeah. And she turned out real well, didn't she?

SPEAKER_06 13:26

She's a very lovely, lovely lady. She is.

SPEAKER_03 13:30

Yes. So you know, Texas has a lot of things that people will relate to when

Texas Big Hair And Queen For A Day

SPEAKER_03 13:35

they think of Texas. And well, my brother told me one time when I first moved to Texas, he came to visit, he says, You have that Texas big hair. And I said, Excuse me. Well, so I looked up the Texas big hair to find out what he was talking about. And you know, what they said was that in back in the 60s, I guess it was the beehives and the big, you know, and the big bluffy thing. And what they said was that the higher the hair, the closer to God. So I kind of thought that was a good thing. Oh, like that. Now we all don't have such big hair anymore, but unless you're in a queen contest or something. Yeah, Jen, were you ever in a queen contest?

SPEAKER_06 14:26

I was not.

SPEAKER_03 14:28

No. I you're so beautiful, I'm surprised.

SPEAKER_06 14:31

Thank you, Sandy. No, I think the closest I came to being a queen was the harp event where I spoke on my uh stint procedure, telling other women about taking care of their hearts.

SPEAKER_02 14:49

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 14:49

There used to be a show back when I was nine or ten, and it was called Queen for the Day.

SPEAKER_03 14:55

I remember that show.

SPEAKER_06 14:56

Yeah. That was ladies and gentlemen, that was black and white television. But I can remember that the queen would be the one that she would come up and they would put a crown on her head. Yeah. And they would hand her a bouquet of red roses.

SPEAKER_05 15:11

Right.

SPEAKER_06 15:12

So at that event, we were closing, and the MC lady handed me this bouquet of red roses, just like Queen for the Day. And I said, Well, really, all I need now is the crown. Yeah. And I can be Queen for the Day. So that's as close as I get to it.

SPEAKER_03 15:30

And you weren't you involved in beauty class contests?

SPEAKER_07 15:34

Oh well, she probably modeled. I'm sure Carolyn modeled. I model some, and uh I knew she did. She's tall and very attractive. You're very kind. I was voted most beautiful at East Texas Fabio's College. I guess that's about my claim to pay.

SPEAKER_03 15:52

That's us, you know. Yes.

SPEAKER_07 15:54

But and just for your information, Sandy, I did wear a bra at all times this week.

SPEAKER_03 16:01

I'm so happy about that. I knew you were. I wasn't gonna bring up the whole bra situation, but since you did.

SPEAKER_07 16:07

Oh yeah, we did discuss that. I know, and so I wanted to go let you know that back in those days I did.

unknown 16:14

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 16:15

And I wore one today. Just for you.

SPEAKER_03 16:19

Thank you. I appreciate it.

SPEAKER_07 16:20

Normally I let my 38 longs kind of hangmail. You know, but I just thought, well, and that's what they do now, people. They hang mail.

SPEAKER_03 16:30

You know, that happens. But you know, Carolyn, it you know, you so you know, I I'll pop over to her house sometimes unannounced. Most of the time I'll let her know a few minutes before I'm arriving.

SPEAKER_07 16:46

She doesn't have to be announced.

SPEAKER_03 16:47

But here she is, pretty as you please, no bra. I mean, and so I have, you know, I have actually brought her over bras. She has. You might really like this one.

SPEAKER_07 17:02

And these are very she'll say, Carolyn, I brought this over. I want you to try it. It's a very comfortable bra. It is not binding. It's just, you know, gives you some support, but it's very comfortable, and you mightn't want to try this.

SPEAKER_03 17:20

But you know, she has no problem. No problem not wearing a bra. I mean, and she'll say, Okay, well, let's run to the store. I said, and I'll look at her and she'll say, I'm fine. Don't worry about it. Well, all right. And then we'll get to the store and I'll say, Well, you just wait in the car. It is run in and get what we heard that story differently.

SPEAKER_06 17:51

I remember you took the bras over to her and you said, here, put one on.

SPEAKER_03 17:58

That might have happened.

SPEAKER_07 18:00

Let's tell that story. I think that possibly happened.

SPEAKER_03 18:04

Well, Carolyn, back in the day, were you involved in burning the bras?

SPEAKER_07 18:09

No, I never was involved in burning the bras. Um, you know, I sometimes I buy me some of those really nice ones over at the Victoria Secrets. And you know, they kind of give you that little uh well, they were too expensive to burn. So yeah, that's the truth. I decided to sit a burning, I just wouldn't wear one.

SPEAKER_03 18:34

That's too funny. That's too funny.

Bras, Rumors, And Small Town Secrets

SPEAKER_03 18:37

But this is the gossip for the day, and I don't know if you guys heard this or not. But last Wednesday, you know, this is back in your stomping grounds for in Henderson.

SPEAKER_05 18:47

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 18:47

You know, there's a swingers club. Did you know there was a swingers club back there? Oh yeah. Oh, okay. I didn't. Well anyway, I just heard that they just shut it down. Yeah. And you heard about two jam? Let's see. I didn't know about it. I knew it was there though. So they shut it down because I guess it was they decided it was the ordinance, you know, was too close to residential.

SPEAKER_07 19:09

As yeah, as well as probably the church, but half half of their membership would have been first back to church.

SPEAKER_03 19:18

Well, I mean and and you know, some and they said that some of the the dues was like nine thousand dollars part of this swingers club. Yeah, it's those little towns, you know. I wonder how long they've been in existence. I have no idea. Probably a very long time.

SPEAKER_06 19:38

Probably a long, long time, yeah. I agree with you. Back back in speaking of small towns, Longview used to be a very small town.

SPEAKER_03 19:46

It's not so much now.

SPEAKER_06 19:47

No, it's eighty, eighty-five thousand. And the surrounding areas come here for shopping and that kind of thing. But when I moved here as a two-year-old, it was around forty thousand dollars, but that's how much it's grown.

SPEAKER_03 20:01

Yeah. But there are forty thousand people. Okay, gotcha, gotcha.

SPEAKER_06 20:09

But small towns had their own flavor. And what was going on in Longview at that time, the area that we live in, North Longview, was where gambling went on. Uh-huh. Like a lot. Illegal gambling. Illegal gambling. And one of the places was called Foster Farms. And that was named for one of the individuals who created it. Which I will not say. Let's just keep that quiet. Yeah. But yeah, so I think small towns in East Texas have had interesting things going on in their midst. And a lot of times they could be under the carpet, so to speak.

SPEAKER_02 20:50

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 20:51

And get away with it. But what there's just with social media and everything now that's impossible. Right, right. So I think that's what happened to this. Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 21:00

And around the time that Jan is referring to was during the Lord Boom time.

SPEAKER_03 21:05

Okay.

SPEAKER_07 21:06

And it was just money everywhere. Okay.

SPEAKER_03 21:09

And where money flows, crime expenses. Yes, yes. Definitely. Yes, definitely.

SPEAKER_06 21:16

I have to tell you when I was in high school, which is mid-sixties, there was a gentleman, I will call him, that sat in a truck on Highway 80 just west of where Kroger is now.

SPEAKER_02 21:33

Okay.

SPEAKER_06 21:33

And whatever type of drug he was selling, the can was on the top of the truck. So we would drive up and down Highway 80 in the dark, looking at what can he had on top of the truck to see what drugs he was selling. Now we of course weren't buying it. I'm sure it was, you know, adults.

SPEAKER_03 21:55

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 21:56

But we thought we were all that because we could drive up and down Highway 80 and see the Drug ban.

SPEAKER_03 22:00

And you know, this is our first segment, but in continued episodes, we're going to have a section called What Were They Thinking? You know, dumb criminals, that kind of thing. And you know, that sounds like one that, you know, I mean, here he is broadcasting.

SPEAKER_06 22:19

The biggest street in Longview?

SPEAKER_03 22:21

Yeah. Yeah. That's crazy.

SPEAKER_06 22:23

Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 22:24

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 22:25

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 22:26

I read about this kid got arrested for stealing a famous jersey from one of those vintage stores where they were selling them and he stole it. So then when he went to court, he wore that jersey.

SPEAKER_05 22:40

Oh my gosh. How dumb is that?

SPEAKER_03 22:43

No brain. I mean, yeah. Well, ladies,

Dumb Criminals And Social Media Whiplash

SPEAKER_03 22:46

I'm going to ask you just some random questions. And one of them is, what do you actually think of social media? I mean, you have been through not even having cell phones and not even having I mean, not even having mobile phones, just phones on the walls. What do you think the pros and cons of uh of social media today? Jan, what do you think?

SPEAKER_06 23:09

Well, I think it's a good news, bad news story.

SPEAKER_03 23:12

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 23:13

As anything that's come into our world.

SPEAKER_02 23:16

Right.

SPEAKER_06 23:17

You know. We grew up in a different place and time where things were slower. There wasn't the fast life that we're living now. And I hate it for my grandchildren that they are living in this fast-paced world.

SPEAKER_03 23:33

Do you think they notice?

SPEAKER_06 23:35

No, I I don't think they know any different because they didn't live in our world. But I used to ride my bicycle to see my friend who lived over on Judson Road, which was, I don't know, three miles from where I lived. And and mother didn't care that I went. I mean, she knew I would be back and whatever, and and my friend's house was always open. You came into Polly's house, and if you didn't say, Hey Polly, it's Jan, you know, that's just the way we lived our lives. Yes. So social media's taking all that away. True. Because now we have to be secure. We have to have a a code on our phone so nobody will get into it. There are good things about it. We know more, quicker, faster, more precise. But I was fortunate that my kids did grow up in an era where we had cell phones. I wasn't running up and down the road waiting on them to finish with soccer or whatever. They would just call me and say, I'm ready, Mom.

SPEAKER_02 24:40

Yes.

SPEAKER_06 24:40

So, you know, I I think it's a mixed bag.

SPEAKER_03 24:43

What do you think, Carol?

SPEAKER_07 24:45

I agree with Jan. I think it's the good and the bad.

SPEAKER_03 24:49

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 24:50

But I still miss the quiet floor times.

SPEAKER_03 24:54

Yes, and the simpler times. And yes, when it was just so simple and easy. Well, you know, we were all outdoors all day long. We were out. We were.

SPEAKER_07 25:04

And barefooted.

SPEAKER_03 25:05

Yeah. And my mother would stand out at dusk. My mother would stand out on the front or the back porch and yell supper. And we'd hear all the other mothers in the neighborhood yelling the same thing, and we'd all scatter and go to our homes, have our supper, you know, and then maybe we'd watch TV, one or two shows that evening that we'd get up and have to change this channel, and and maybe someone would have to get up on the roof and change the antenna.

SPEAKER_07 25:30

Yes, that's what's what I was getting ready to say, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 25:33

Yes, yes. And and you know, we have fond memories of that. And I'm I'm curious, I'm wondering, will our kids and our grandkids have fond memories of what they're going through now? I mean, will it change that much for them? Of course we never expected things to change the way they did with us. So could there be that much change for them that they will look back and say, oh, do you remember the days where all we did was just, you know, go on Facebook and maybe they'll have you know the holograms where people will show up in their in their living room and you know, I mean my grandfather would never have even thought of anything that's going on now.

SPEAKER_06 26:20

I mean and just even in the in the medical industry. My my my father's a general surgeon, yeah. He would be he he would drop his jaw on the ground. The robotics seeing what all they can do now and make things easier for patients and health care.

SPEAKER_03 26:37

So I know, I know rapid speed. True, and then there's AI.

SPEAKER_06 26:43

No, that's it for another podcast.

AI Anxiety And Teaching Cursive Again

SPEAKER_03 26:46

It is all I'm gonna say is being a writer and an artist, part of me resents AI because I worked so hard to hone my skill. And exactly, you know, all you gotta do is say, Hey, AI, would you please uh rewrite this for me? You know, here's here's the here's uh, oh yeah, I woke up in the morning and it was a great day. Would you rewrite this for me? And then suddenly you have this long essay, you know, about today. Yeah, yes. So but there also is great things about it too. So I know. Yeah. What do you what are you gonna do?

SPEAKER_07 27:21

I fear what AI can do to our security as a nation uh if we're under the wrong leadership and it's not being supervised and true. Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 27:40

I also worry about what AI will do to the education of our children. I don't either. I don't either. They have developed software for teachers to be able to, and this is for older kids, college and high school, where if if they've written an essay or whatever, they can look at it and tell if it was written by the student or oh really? Yeah. So they do have software for that.

SPEAKER_03 28:03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 28:04

And I guess that's what we'll have to do.

SPEAKER_03 28:06

Yeah. Since you know a little bit about education today, are they back to teaching cursed yet?

SPEAKER_06 28:11

Or yes, we are definitely teaching cursive. Not that they will continue with it, but it's because I think as kids get older, they're using a computer, so they're just printing it out on their printer.

SPEAKER_03 28:24

Right, right.

SPEAKER_06 28:24

So, yes, we are teaching it in elementary grades.

SPEAKER_03 28:28

Good deal.

SPEAKER_06 28:28

Thank goodness.

SPEAKER_03 28:29

I think so.

SPEAKER_06 28:30

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 28:31

I mean, calculators changed our lives, yeah. Yeah, they definitely changed our lives. I mean, I can't not go without a calculator. Me either.

SPEAKER_06 28:39

Me either. I'm not a mad person. I'm not either. I struggle.

SPEAKER_03 28:43

Okay. I'm gonna change the stuff.

SPEAKER_06 28:44

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 28:45

Now I actually had Carolyn and Jen come to my house today. Uh I was gonna say is you two coming to my house, and I'm all dressed all casual, and you kind of dress to the nines. Thank you for your respect. But I'm thinking, oh, I should have dressed up a little more. But anyway, that's the good thing that this is radio and not TV.

SPEAKER_06 29:06

Yes, definitely.

SPEAKER_03 29:07

But anyway, it got me thinking just now as looking at you guys and thinking about dressing to the nines, where dress to the nines came from. I'm real big into how terms came about and how sayings came about. Does anybody know how that came about? Honestly done.

SPEAKER_06 29:23

I don't. But I think we'd always said on a scale from one to ten.

SPEAKER_03 29:27

Yeah, that's what you think.

SPEAKER_06 29:29

Yeah, you know, we measure things that way.

SPEAKER_03 29:32

Yes.

SPEAKER_06 29:33

So possibly that's how people will how she dressed today.

SPEAKER_07 29:37

But remember when you used to go to the airport and everybody was dressed to the nine. Suits, children, shoes, right, yes, ma'am.

SPEAKER_06 29:48

Yes, ma'am.

SPEAKER_03 29:49

Right. Well, while you were talking, I just Googled it. Well, okay. It takes nine yards of fabric to make a good suit.

SPEAKER_06 29:59

Ooh, I like that.

SPEAKER_03 30:00

Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 30:04

That's that makes good sense.

SPEAKER_03 30:05

Yeah. And the and the term the whole nine yards.

SPEAKER_07 30:09

Right. Mm-hmm. That's the term. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 30:13

So that all makes sense to me.

SPEAKER_07 30:14

Yes.

The Best Part Of Being Over 70

SPEAKER_03 30:15

So, Carolyn, what do you feel is the advantage to being over 70?

SPEAKER_07 30:21

It's so wonderful to be the age that I am, and I don't have to please anybody.

SPEAKER_03 30:29

Well, I was gonna say, you know, you've told me lately, you know, you don't give a damn.

SPEAKER_07 30:34

I don't give a damn.

SPEAKER_03 30:36

I mean, but yet you are one of the most generous and sweetest people I know too. But I guess you don't care what other people think.

SPEAKER_07 30:49

I'm at the point in life where no, I do not. If you like me, you like me. And if you don't, well that's fine too.

SPEAKER_02 31:00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 31:01

Because it's not affected my my wake up time in any way.

SPEAKER_03 31:06

I know that. I know not to call you early. Not to schedule early meetings with you. Unless, unless if you show up early and you bring two chocolate-covered donuts.

SPEAKER_02 31:19

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_03 31:20

Yes, you will you will get a pass.

SPEAKER_06 31:23

Yeah, for sure. Yeah. I just think I'm at the time where I get to take the reins on the horse and slow it down. I feel like all of my life I've been riding at a pretty high speed.

SPEAKER_03 31:36

But Jan, you're still blowing and going as as well.

SPEAKER_06 31:39

I am, but I get to decide when and how good how much and how long. There you go. So I think that's the advantage of being where I am for sure. Yes. But I do, my my internist calls me his go-go girl, because I do like to go-go. And I do know that keeps you alert.

SPEAKER_03 31:59

Yes. Right.

SPEAKER_06 32:00

More active. You're active, your body is physically in a better place. And and so I'll probably always be like that, but but I do like to be able to. This morning I slept till 9 30, so yay! Yay for me, you know.

SPEAKER_07 32:14

But let me say on on Jan's side of this, now out of our tribe, I was the first one to retire. You know, my mother had been after me about two years before I did it. And then I needed to quit to be home to see after her. But I just got up one day and I just said, you know what, I'm you know, wear a brother today. And wearing and I'm not doing this anymore. And so anyway, I retired. And then I would say to Jane, I'd call Jan, I'd say, Make me such and such for a little drink this afternoon. All right, all right, she got there. Jan, you need to retire.

SPEAKER_06 32:57

Yeah, this went on for at least three or four years.

SPEAKER_07 33:01

Three or four years. Yes. I mean I pounded her weekly about retirement. She did.

SPEAKER_06 33:06

So finally, she gave in. Finally, I called her that day and I said, guess what? I'm going to the house with my purse.

SPEAKER_03 33:15

And she said, that means your year. Oh my gosh. So how old were you then?

SPEAKER_06 33:22

63, 62, or 68. Yeah, we were both here, huh?

SPEAKER_07 33:27

We literally coming up.

SPEAKER_06 33:29

But we wanted to. I mean, we wanted to enjoy that time still.

SPEAKER_07 33:33

We had a deed. Yes. Oh my gosh.

SPEAKER_03 33:36

Yeah. I've retired several times. That's going to happen too. Yeah. And I just um, yeah, I just uh can't make myself quit. Well, you have so many talents. You day Sandy.

SPEAKER_07 33:52

We don't have gifts. We don't all have as much to draw from as you did.

SPEAKER_06 33:58

Sandy has great gifts. I mean, you are blessed for sure. You're sweet.

SPEAKER_03 34:03

But you know, I just I at this point in my life, staying busy makes me happy. Yeah. You know, and it stimulates me. And I, you know, and I I need that right now. Yeah. Now, Wayne wants me to be retired, and I don't blame him. Yeah. And I never thought of my life when I thought about getting older. I I kind of envisioned what my grandmothers were and you know, what my mother I mean, they they settled down, they maybe knitted while while the TV was on. You know, that kind of thing.

SPEAKER_07 34:36

But you know That's definitely not our style.

SPEAKER_03 34:38

Well, yeah. I kind of thought that, you know, I kind of envisioned that's what my life would be, but by golly, it never happened that far. So and and I love my life. Yeah, I love my life.

SPEAKER_06 34:49

I love Well, I just want to say a little something on that. Yes. We are so thrilled that you and Wayne moved to Longview.

SPEAKER_04 34:56

Oh, good. Thank you.

SPEAKER_06 34:58

You've been such a blessing to our group. Oh yeah. And to our family. Yes. To our show. To your family.

SPEAKER_07 35:05

She she made a tremendous difference in Katie's life growing up. And I most appreciate it.

SPEAKER_03 35:12

Well, that's great to hear. I love that. You know, and I I don't see myself leaving.

SPEAKER_07 35:17

Well, if I want, I'd dare you. Yeah. If Carolyn doesn't care, she's gonna take.

SPEAKER_03 35:21

Yeah, yeah, it's for sure. Yeah, for sure. And and I like that. I like that you don't mess around, Carolyn. That that you are. And I tell you what, well, I saw a sign the other day that said whiskey in a teacup. And that that's Carolyn. Yeah, I agree. You're exactly right. She's got that little fragile outline to her, but inside, I mean, she packs the punch. I know. So that's kind of where it is.

SPEAKER_07 35:51

Yeah, but I don't carry a pitchfork.

SPEAKER_03 35:53

Well, now I have been known to carry a pitchfork, but I'm not gonna say what Carolyn carries, but she does a license for that.

SPEAKER_07 36:01

Yes, I do. As a matter of fact, I just renewed. Oh good. Okay. But it never mattered whether didn't we? She's legal. She's legal. It didn't matter whether I was legal or not.

SPEAKER_03 36:12

Well, I know.

SPEAKER_07 36:13

I still always have.

SPEAKER_03 36:14

Yeah, even in the airport.

SPEAKER_07 36:16

Even in the airport.

SPEAKER_06 36:17

Yeah, that's another story. Yeah, like around on that.

SPEAKER_03 36:21

Um well, okay, we're gonna close it up for

Listener Invite And Sign Off

SPEAKER_03 36:25

now. Any any last words from you, ladies of wisdom?

SPEAKER_06 36:30

Sandy, you're so much fun. I want to listen to your podcast. Well, thank you, thank you.

SPEAKER_07 36:36

I hope you do. It's been wonderful as always. Thank you.

SPEAKER_03 36:40

Thanks. You know, you listeners out there in the show notes, I'm gonna give you contact information. I really want to hear from you. I want to hear what you want to hear about. I want to hear if you need any advice from us, old ladies, and you young ones too. We want to hear from you. So please join in. The fun the more you join in, the more chances you get at our our monthly drawing. And the monthly drawing was gonna be fabulous. I can't even tell you. Um well, actually, I don't know. That's why I can't tell you. But it's gonna be really great by the end. So, anyway, we love you guys, and until next time. Don't be judging others just because they sin differently than you. Well, girls, this is your cue to say goodbye. For Christ's sakes. Bye, bye. Bye, everybody.

SPEAKER_04 37:32

Don't forget what you just heard, but you didn't hear it from me. It's been fun, we're not done. Catch you next time. You can't make this stuff up.