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When Is It Personal vs When It's Just Business
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The Story You’re Telling Yourself Might Be Wrong
Not every delay is disrespect. Not every silence is rejection. Not every changed priority is betrayal. Sometimes, it is just business.
Sometimes, it is just business.
In this episode, I’m talking about emotional control, ego, expectation and one of the hardest disciplines in business and life: learning how to separate emotion from outcome.
When you care about your work, your reputation, your relationships and your standards, it is easy to take things personally. A slow reply feels like disrespect. A stalled opportunity feels like rejection. A changed priority feels like betrayal.
But often, you are not dealing with the facts anymore.
You are dealing with the story you have created around the facts.
This episode is about staying composed when things do not go your way, following up professionally before reacting emotionally, and knowing when to walk away without making a scene.
Because people remember how you behave when the answer is no, the deal goes cold, or the reply never comes.
The real discipline is not pretending it does not affect you.
The real discipline is feeling it - and still responding with control.
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Welcome to The Way I See It. Short thoughts on work, life, and the decisions in between and why we tend to overcomplicate all three. Straight from the front line of modern business, grab a coffee, grab a pad, and let's get into it. Welcome to another episode of The Way I See It, episode 8. It's not personal, it's business. Kind of core themes around the ability to separate emotion from outcome and how it's one of the most important disciplines across business, leadership, entrepreneurship, and life in general. As always on the podcast, we try to kind of factor in all things across business and um yeah, life as well. So, you know, not every delay is disrespect, not every silence is a rejection, not every change priority is a betrayal, and sometimes it is just business. And I suppose this is probably one of my favourite or most overused lines when it comes to supporting people with work problems, consulting on projects. Um also probably one that people receive in mixed ways. Um I use it in business, I use it in conversations with friends, I use it when giving advice, and most importantly, I use it when I personally need to remind myself not to react emotionally to something that probably has nothing to actually do with me because I'll still fall foul of this sometimes, and I can sit here and talk about business, about discipline, leadership, emotional control, the commercial maturity of all of it. But the truth is I still sometimes take things personally, and I think it links back to something I've spoken about before in the last episode, where it's the idea of being more intentional about who you work with and who you give your energy to, which relationships actually match the direction you're trying to go in. Because in business, especially when you're building something, you start to realise not every client or every opportunity, not every conversation is necessarily going to be aligned to where you want to go. But even when you logically know that, certain things can still feel personal because you've invested your time in something, you've built a rapport, you've shown you've shown up properly and you've tried to do things the right way. When the energy's not returned or matched, or you don't feel like the respect is there on the same level, the opportunity doesn't move the way you expected. It can still hit you. And I suppose it's the bit that people don't always talk about because it's easy to just move on or to say just move on, but it's harder when your name, your reputation, your business, your effort, and your standards are attached to it. And again, it can be the same, exactly the same for anything on the personal side. It doesn't have to be business related. So a candidate, a client, a colleague, a friend, a partner, whoever it may be, they act in a way that doesn't match your expectation you had in your head. Even when, you know, you know better, it can still sting. And you start asking yourself, was it disrespectful? Have you done something wrong? Are you being ignored? Was maybe the relationship not as strong as you initially thought? Did you misread a certain kind of situation? But before you know it, you're no longer dealing with the facts, and you're dealing with a story that you've actually built around the facts that may or may not actually be accurate. And that's where things can become dangerous because sometimes it just really isn't personal, it's just business. And in this episode, I feel like it's probably one of the hardest disciplines in life and in business about being able to separate emotion from outcome. Um not to let the emotion get the best of you, whether you're running a business, working in sales, leading a team, trying to progress your career, building relationships, managing clients, hiring people, even dealing with your personal life, something that's going to constantly test you. People will disappoint you. People will go quiet, people will ghost you, people will change their minds, people will prioritize something else that fits them better. People will not always give you the same agency that you're willing to give them. And the mistake is not feeling something, you are human, of course you feel it, but the mistake is assuming that every outcome is a personal message. That's the difference because when you attach emotion to every outcome, you'll lose perspective. So you start again reading silence as a rejection, delay as disrespect, changing priorities as a betrayal. You start assuming intent where it literally may only be circumstance. And I think it's something a lot of people struggle with, not because they're weak, but because they care. You care about your work, you care about your reputation, your relationships, you care about people's perceptions about being valued. So I think for me, this is something that I've had to learn even more sort of since building the business, because when you work for yourself, everything can feel a little closer to you. So the wins feel more personal, the losses become more personal, the silence, the delays. When you're building something of your own, you're not just selling a product or a service, you're putting your name, your reputation, your time, your effort, your money, your standards, and the credibility behind it. So when something does fall short or goes quiet, you can almost feel like it's a judgment on you. Um conversations can be moving in the right direction, and suddenly they're not. Someone's invested time or someone you've invested time into doesn't give you the same level of respect. But sometimes your head starts filling in the blanks, and the hard truth is that sometimes you're not being rejected, you're just not a priority in that moment, and that's okay. Like it might still be frustrating, it might still be annoying, could affect you commercially, but it isn't personal. And if you treat it like it is, you can end up kind of reacting in a way that might damage the relationship or your reputation more than the actual situation ever has done. And the emotional trap is expectation because you give energy, you expect energy back. You prioritize someone, you expect to be prioritised. You show loyalty, you expect loyalty back. You act quickly, you expect haste. You communicate properly, you expect the same standards back. And in a perfect world, that's fair. But business doesn't work perfectly. Life does not work perfectly, and people do not operate according to the expectation you have kind of privately created for them. And that that's the kind of difficult bit and the hard bit, I suppose, because sometimes the problem's not what happened, what's happened. The problem is the meaning you've attached to what happened. Some someone didn't reply. It's a fact. But then you create a story or a narrative around why they didn't reply. Was the pitch not strong enough? Are you not respected enough? Um have they used you for something? Were they serious? Do they value you? And listen, maybe some of it's true. You also have to be big enough to accept that that's a separate reality as well. Sometimes people do behave poorly, sometimes people are disrespectful, sometimes people are going to waste your time, take advantage. So don't be naive to it. But in the same kind of respect and token, you need to be careful before turning every commercial disappointment into a personal offence. Because the minute you start doing things like that, you stop operating from clarity and ego's expensive. So, kind of from a business lens, emotional control is not necessarily about being cold. It's about being useful under pressure. It's about staying rational when something doesn't go your way. And if you let every one of these moments knock you emotionally, you're going to be exhausted because you can't build anything meaningful if your mood's controlled by other people's response times. That applies to entrepreneurs. If you're building a business, you need to be resilient, especially around uncertainty. You can't take every quiet period as a failure. You can't take every lost deal as proof that your business isn't working. You can't take every slow month as a personal attack from the universe. Sometimes the market's slow, timing's not right. People are interested but not ready. Sometimes people need more convincing. Sometimes the opportunity is real, but the timing's not right. It's not now doesn't mean not never. And this is why maturity matters, because immature people will react to the moment, whereas mature people will manage the relationship, and that's the difference. If you have a good product or business and you're an investable person, people will work with you, they will invest in you, they'll invest time in you, just when it aligns with them and where their demands or constraints are. For leaders, I suppose it's slightly more important because if you take everything personally, you become difficult to work with or work for. Your team may not give you honest feedback because you hear it as criticism. Clients cannot challenge you because you hear it as disrespect. People can't disagree with you because you hear it as disloyalty. Suddenly everything becomes emotional. And it leads into another one of, I suppose, my little kind of phrases or mantras where you do have to remove the emotion from a situation and be rational because leaders set the emotional temperature. If you're reactive, your team becomes cautious. If you're defensive, people will stop being honest. If you're easily offended, people start managing your mood instead of focusing on the work. And that's not really leadership, it's emotional outsourcing. And I suppose personally it does apply as well, not just in business, because how often do people create tension in their personal life because they assume intent too quickly? Someone replies differently, someone seems distant, someone cancels plans, someone doesn't show up for you in the way you expected them to, and straight away your mind starts building a case and a narrative that, you know, isn't necessarily accurate. Sometimes people are tired, sometimes people are stressed, sometimes people are dealing with their own stuff, sometimes people are in their own head. Sometimes people genuinely don't have the capacity you expected from them in that particular moment. And that's where the emotional maturity comes in, because the mature response is not to suppress how you feel, but it's to pause first before you make your feeling the full truth. And the pose is powerful because the intake of breath before you speak allows you to engage your rational brain, whether it's business, relationships, friendships, leaderships, families, just in everything, because the pulse stops you from turning temporary emotion into a permanent damage. So there's another side to it, and sometimes it is personal. Sometimes people do show you who they are, and you need to be honest enough to see that too. It's not personal, it's business, should not become an excuse to tolerate poor behaviour. That's not the point of the podcast. The point is not to be passive, the point's to be controlled. So, what do you actually do with this? I suppose for me there are a few rules. First, separate the fact from the story. The fact might be they've not replied, the story might be they're disrespecting me, but they're not the same thing. Second, follow up professionally before you react emotionally. A calm follow-up will get you further than a frustrated outburst. Third, do not let silence make you needy. This is huge in business. When someone goes quiet, your job's not to panic. Your job's to stay composed. Follow up, add value, move on, keep momentum elsewhere. Fourth, keep multiple opportunities alive. One of the reasons people take things so personally in business is because they have too much emotional and commercial weight sitting on one outcome, one client, one deal, one opportunity, one relationship, one person's approval. And this is where it's dangerous because when you have momentum across multiple areas, you're less likely to emotionally obsess over one thing going quiet. And I suppose the final fifth piece would be just to stay professional even when you're disappointed, because people remember how you behave when things don't go your way. Anyone can be charming when the deal's moving, anyone can be positive when the answer's yes, but your real character shows when your reply is slow, the outcome's no, the deal goes cold, or someone doesn't give you what you wanted in that moment. So, closing message, I suppose, yes, it's not personal, it's business. It means stop letting your emotions drive the decision. It's about staying rational enough to see a situation clearly because in business and in life, guess what? People will disappoint you, people will let you down, and you can care about your work without becoming fragile around the outcome. You can value relationships without chasing people who don't necessarily value back. You can be disappointed without becoming bitter. You can hold standards without making everything an offence, but not all of it needs to be personal because the real discipline is not pretending things don't affect you. The real discipline is feeling it and still responding with control. So don't let ego make the call. Stay composed, stay professional, keep building, keep your standards high, and know when to walk away without needing to make a scene. Because in business, in leadership, in relationships and life, how you handle disappointment says more about you than how you handle success. And remember, it's not personal, it's business. And that's the way I see it. If it resonates, share it with someone who wants to hear it.