Living with Grace and Sass Podcast
A cozy, real-talk podcast where faith meets everyday life, as two best friends share honest conversations, encouragement, and a little sass along the way. It's like sitting down with your besties - laughing, growing, and finding grace in the middle of it all.
Living with Grace and Sass Podcast
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Come meet the voices behind the mic as we share who we are, the story behind the name, and what inspired us to start this podcast. We're also giving you a sneak peek of what's coming this season.
Hey guys, welcome to the very first episode of the Living with Grace and Sass podcast. We are your co-hosts, Katie and Sierra.
SPEAKER_00We are so glad that you guys are here today. We are finally doing this. We've been talking about the podcast for a while now. Um, ironically, we've been talking about doing a business together for a long time. Yes, a couple years. I mean, it's been at least three years, I think. But life has just happened. It was never the right time. Um, but now it is, and so we're excited to do this. I know I feel as I was thinking through it yesterday, I was like, this is such a God thing that this is all kind of falling into place right now to do the podcast and to do a business together. So yes, we're doing it. Yes, I agree. It's funny because we both had the idea separately, yes. I was like, Oh my gosh, I want to do this, and I didn't tell anybody. So, again, that was such a god thing for me that just gave me a piece from the very beginning about starting this podcast. Yes, same. So today we just want to chat about who we are, tell you guys this is us. We want to be your met. Yeah, how we met. We want to be your new besties, yeah. Um, and just kind of tell you a little bit about our dream and vision for the podcast as we go. So I'm gonna let Sierra introduce herself and then we'll just keep chatting.
SPEAKER_01All right. So as she says, my name is Sierra. Hi. Um, I am an athletic trainer um and also part-time um optometry technician. And I am a dog mom. I have one dog. His name is Joey. Um, and if you've ever watched Friends, that is exactly where I got the name from. He very much fits the character. And um I have been, I'm originally from Virginia, but I have lived in Texas for about to be 20 years. This coming May of 2026 will be 20 years that we have lived in Texas. We being my mom and my brother. And um a few fun things about me. I love Mexican food, and it is only good in Texas. So I guess you're Tex Mex, Tex Mex, but um, when we went back to Virginia and I had some Mexican food. Um, no, not good. So only here in Texas is it good. Um, I love pink and I am a weirdo when it comes to the weather. I love storms, I they just make me so happy. And but I also love the sunshine, like dangerous storms, yes. Like I I oddly have a goal to see a tornado, not be in it. Okay, I want to be like in like West Texas where it's flat and I can see a tornado. I'm like, oh, I see a tornado, but I'm safe, kind of thing.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, so if there's any storm chasers listening, I have a girl that needs to come on a ride along with you. Don't hit me with a live.
SPEAKER_01I hope so, because that's exactly what I will do.
SPEAKER_00Okay, good to know.
SPEAKER_01There's a guy, his name is Reed. Reed Timmer. I would love to do a ride. Okay, if anyone listening knows Reed Timmer, hook a girl up because I would love to do that. That is a thrill of a lifetime.
SPEAKER_00I don't know how we've been best friends this long, and I did not know that about you.
SPEAKER_01Yep, love it. Um, and then also I am actually hearing impaired. I only have one ear. I like to throw that out there. I have my hearing jokes. You'll occasionally hear those because we have dark camera here, and I just thrive off of it.
SPEAKER_00You have to laugh about that.
SPEAKER_01You really do.
SPEAKER_00I ain't changed it. Oh, so yeah. Why don't you on that? Why don't you tell everybody about your tattoo that you thought? Oh my gosh.
SPEAKER_01What is it even called? I just saw the picture.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, like the no-volume symbol.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, literally my right ear. I was born with no right ear. Um, I just recently learned the name of it is congenital microcia. Yeah. I think I'm saying it right. I just saw the word, so I'm guessing how it's pronounced. Um, so I have no right ear. I've had some reconstruction surgeries, but um the next one was to drill the actual hole to make the ear canal. And because the nerves are so fused and the bones and nerves are so fused and deformed on that side, the doctors weren't sure if they were going to hit a nerve and then call cause partial facial paralysis. So I said, Yeah, I'm good. Yeah, no kidding. I got one. One's good. And so, yes, last year, um man, that makes me so sad. I don't know. But two years ago, we went to see Taylor Swift in New Orleans with our best friend Mindy. We went and got matching tattoos, and I thought, I want to get another one. So I literally got the mute symbol right below my ear. It's not on my neck, so it's technically not a neck tattoo, but it's right below my ear. That's my argument with my mom. Um, and it's just it's funny.
SPEAKER_00I love it. It's hilarious. You know, I love tattoos, I have a lot of them, and so it it ranks as like one of my top five tattoos, favorite tattoos ever, because it's so funny.
SPEAKER_01Yes. The guy literally was like, Are you sure you want to do this? And then after he did it, he's like, Yeah, that's pretty cool. Yeah, it's such a good tattoo. So, yeah, that's just a little bit about me now.
SPEAKER_00Auntie Katie. I am married and I have two kids. My husband's name is Nathan, he is a U.S. Army veteran, and then I have two kids, Grace and JR. They're both adopted. I don't know why awkward pause there. Um, but we were foster parents to both of them, and so um both of them are adopted at different times. They're not biological siblings, but we absolutely adore them. We are in the unique position that Nathan is medically retired from the army, and so he is home or has the freedom to be home a lot. And then I work part-time as a physical therapist here in town. Um, and so we have the unique position to be together a lot as a family of four, and we absolutely love spending time together. We live out on some land where I have a million goat babies, not really a million, I have 11 goat babies right now. But some of them are about to go to new homes. So I have loved becoming, I cannot even use the word goat farmer for myself because that makes me want to cringe. I don't know. Is a hobby farm, maybe? Yeah, hobby farm. Hobby farm. Because you know, I love all things goats and chickens and donkey. We have a sweet donkey, Samson, Samson, our donkey. Um, I do all the things, sourdough. It's like a whole thing in itself, you know that. Um, so I love baking, I love making bread for my friends and my family and cinnamon rolls. That's our favorite weekly go-to. Um, what else about me? It sounds like all I do is take care of animals and bake bread. Would you consider yourself a crunchy mom? Ooh, I'm definitely um crunchy, scrunchy mom. Because I still love my Dr. Pepper. Yes. But you better believe I'm reading all the labels and telling my kids what they can and can't have.
SPEAKER_01I love there was a day where J or asked if he can have ketchup because he learned about what red 40 was. I'm like, this kid's going places.
SPEAKER_00Oh, yeah, he is for sure. Yes. He pays attention, he does pay attention, um, but not enough to be like, oh, I probably shouldn't drink this cherry limeade sludge from Sonic. Yeah. It has red dye in it, but it's fine. But we should ask about ketchup. No, I definitely am a crunchy mom, much to my family's demise, and the joke of my community group, too. So, but I'll save those names for another time because no one needs to know that. Tune in next time. Two late. Um, but no, I like, and I'll talk more about that kind of as the podcast goes. The reason we got into reading labels and kind of lowering all the toxicities in our home. Um, because there were there was a reason for that. We were really intentional about that, and how it's taken me on a train that I can never get off for the rest of my life. That might be a whole season. Yeah, it probably could be a whole season. Tune into Living Crunchy with Katie. There's a whole other strategy slogan right there. My goodness. Um, but no, I do have more to myself than just that, I think. I don't know. I already said I'm a PT. Um, we have lots of animals, we have lots of dogs too. We love the animals around here. You love thrifting. I love thrifting. If I could have taken a hundred-year-old farmhouse and put it on this property instead of building a new house, that's what I would have done. I could see that for you because I love all things old and vintage. I love thrifting. My idea of a good day is going thrifting and finding dead people's stuff to put in my house. All your grandma's florals, send them my way. I love them. Um, that's what I want. So I do love thrifting. Um, what else do I like? I also love Dr. Pepper and I love Mexican food, like Sierra said. Chips and queso are my jam.
SPEAKER_01Literally, we can just sit and eat chips and queso and be totally satisfied.
SPEAKER_00I mean, how many good conversations can we have around chips and queso?
SPEAKER_01A lot.
SPEAKER_00A whole lot. Hours and hours. They can get deep. We went to dinner last week with another friend of ours and Nathan, my husband. So he got to come on girls' night. And when we got home, I said, Did you have fun? And he was like, Yeah, but y'all talk a lot. Like, literally, that's all yes. So I don't know if he'll come on girls' night with us again, but he enjoyed it, and he definitely got all the tea, but he did realize that we talked a lot when we're together, and he has great commentary, like he throws out random things. Like the king of one-liners that you like. Was that a compliment, or were you really just insulting when you do that face? But he does it with love. He does, it's always kind. Um, also, though, I teach Bible study, and then I have two small businesses. Actually, we have three small businesses because I can't discount the what the welding business that I have zero part in. But Nathan and I we have three small businesses. Um, The Scarlet Hook, Let Grace Speak, and then NK Fabrication, which is our welding business. Yeah, so I stay really busy, probably too busy to for my own good, but it's fine.
SPEAKER_01She is also very type A. So this it's fitting of how busy you are. That's true. Because you love your checklist. I do. You love your organization.
SPEAKER_00I just ordered a planner yesterday that gives me checklists for cleaning, so that's how type A I am.
SPEAKER_01I'm there for it. Tell you how type A she is.
SPEAKER_00I don't know what will. It's me. It is me. Oh, that's so good. Enough about me. Let's talk about the podcast. Oh. So, Sierra, why did we decide to do the podcast?
SPEAKER_01I think it comes from us just there's so many topics nowadays, kind of lighthearted, but then also some deep conversations that either are not being talked about um or are just afraid to be talked about, then I just feel um we can openly talk about here, but with a biblical standpoint. Um, yes, there are things that we'll have our own personal opinions on, but we really try to lead it with a biblical backing. Um because we it's in the Bible to not lead with your own heart. And yes, we're human, yes, we fall, but we really strive to let the Lord lead us. Um, and so we just wanted to use this podcast as kind of an opening for other people to tune in and listen and hear some ideas and just encourage you to just follow what the Lord has, um what he says and how he guides you, and in the good days and and the hard days and the scary days, because there are some scary days, and um and just bring our own little sassiness to it. Yeah, I think we're good at doing that, yeah.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I I think there's a lot of topics that we talk about just as friends, but then when I talk to other people, I'm like, Yeah, I wish people were talking about this. Um, but so often I think in today's world we talk about things from like a how does this make me feel, or like what does this person think of this? We so often go to somebody else for our opinion or our like take on something. Um, and I know just in our friendship and then the friendships around us, like really trying and striving to go to the Lord first and let that be the place that leads us on all of our decisions. Um, because really everything in life should start from a faith perspective. And like, what does the Bible say about this? What does God's word say about this, and how do we walk in light of that? Um, that's one thing I love about you and I doing this together is because we both come from different backgrounds. There's a lot of things that we're similar on and that we think the same about, but we also grew up two totally different ways.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_00And so everything we do in life comes from our own life experiences. But the foundation and the central point here is the gospel, is God's word, and what does God say? And that's one thing I hope from the podcast, too, is that whoever's listening, from whatever walk of life they're in, whatever season they're in, that they feel like they are getting biblical truth um from a per from two different pers two different perspectives. Not that the biblical truth changes, but that these are ways you've seen this in your own life. This is ways I've seen this in my own life. And we certainly don't have it all figured out. Like I could spend a whole season telling you all the ways I've messed up, um, or all the ways I don't have it figured out. But that's also the beauty of the gospel is that our faith journey, our walk with the Lord from salvation to eternity is sanctification. It's growing to look more like Christ every day and not on the day of salvation I have it all figured out. Yes. It's such a journey and such a process. And I hope that in this, in these episodes, as we talk through different topics and things, I hope that we see that or that you hear that of we're trying to just figure it out together.
SPEAKER_01And I hope that this, or we both hope that this um will encourage people to have those conversations within their own friend groups, their own family, their own community, because these things do need to be talked about. And not that I'm saying that if someone has a complete different point of view of this that you need to not talk to them, that's not the case, but I feel like a lot of divide comes from not listening to one another. Yeah, and you we may have different I know we have different different views on things, um, but that doesn't mean that we can't still be friends. Yeah, it's okay, it's okay to agree to disagree on some topics. Yeah. Um, so we hope that this just encourages you to talk about those things and be comfortable with talking.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, um, because you and I don't agree on everything. I mean, I think we agree on a lot, but we don't agree on every topic. Um, and I think if anything, if I've learned anything since 2020, it's the importance of doing life in a group and doing life with friends and community. Um, because it's really I think 2020 was very isolating for a lot of people too. Um, and then we saw just it like highlighted how much we need community and how much we need to be able to talk through the hard things with each other. Yes. Because we were not ever designed to go through life alone. And so I hope that this becomes just another extension of that. Like it's okay to have these conversations, and I think to your point too, I hope it doesn't stop here. I hope it prompts further conversation in groups and in community, um, so that others are growing in that too. So, and I hope you guys feel like you're just right here in the room with us, just chatting, just listening to two friends that talk a lot. Um, because we do, we do, we talk all the time. Um, but I hope that it's like that you feel our heart and just being with us and like just hearing our hearts on whatever topic we're talking about that day. Yeah. So okay. So the name of the podcast is Living with Grace and Stass. And so, how do we come up with a name? Why am I getting all the questions? Because you came up with a name. That's why.
SPEAKER_01Y'all are going to learn really quick just how scatter brained we can get, and if we get on something, just how we can go zero to a hundred. Um, because I was literally just driving. I don't know where else I was in my car driving, and the idea of the podcast came up because um we've just talked about how there's just so many topics that we want to address and just kind of give our thoughts on and ideas on and everything. And so I was in my car and I was thinking, well her her business let Grace speak. Um it really just well, I'll let her talk more about her business, but it just uh really she really likes to share the gospel with that. She has um some great um kid studies, some great um this little prayer notepad that I absolutely love because I'm using it right now. Um, but so I took the word Grace and then all of the littles, like all of my friends' kids, they call me Aunt Sassy. Um, I'm very sassy. So I thought, okay, we're gonna combine Grace and Sass. I'm like, oh, that's really catchy. But then I thought, what is it called? An acronym? Yeah. So then I was like, okay, the acronym is GAS. Oh, so then like gas, like we want to push the gas puddle forward. We want to drive more into the gospel. We don't want to turn around and hit the reverse and go back. No, we're we're not trying to go back. We want to go forward. I mean, wanna just continue to share the gospel and just be so, so um energetic and encouraging about the gospel. So I was like, oh, gas, we're gonna hit the gas.
SPEAKER_00And that is where the grace and Sass came from. But I absolutely love it because it's so perfect. Um, you sent me that in an audio message, and I was like, Yes, yes, we weren't even together.
SPEAKER_02I was like, Yes, this is what we're doing.
SPEAKER_00Um, because it is, it's true. We want to go like full speed ahead in our pursuit of the Lord, and in everything that we do, we want that to be the driving force, and so gas really did just fit, but we didn't want it to just be the gas podcast, which is actually really funny. So if you leave a podcast title, I just gave you one. There you go. There you go. I just gave it to you. Give me some royalties, right? Um, but no, I do feel like it's perfect living with grace and sass, uh, because I think that describes us perfectly. We're both definitely sassy, um, but we want grace to be like the thing we lead with, the thing that people see in our lives. Um, and then it also tied in perfectly with my business living with grace and sassy.
SPEAKER_01Well, that is not my business. My business is your personal business.
unknownLet Grace speak.
SPEAKER_00Let Grace speak. Um, so the grace also tied in there too. So I think it's a perfect name, and I hope that it describes this podcast and this season of all these topics. Um, of like we can still have fun. That's the other thing. I think people think that Christians are like just like straight-lipped, miserable, yeah, stiff back, no one has any joy, um, or no one has any fun, but we laugh a lot. Um, so much we had to do a couple takes before Hannah gets the giggles out. We had to get all the giggles out. Um, we're gonna laugh on this podcast, we're gonna have fun, and that should be our life too. We should be joyful, we should be having fun in all that we do because God has made made us and He has given us lives, and He has made good creation that we can enjoy. And so I think that as we go through life and all these topics, I hope we have a little bit of SAS, but also a lot of grace in each topic. Um, because some of the things we're gonna talk about are hard, and I think there's situations that or topics that maybe aren't talked about a lot, um especially in a day where no one wants to rock the boat, no one wants to upset anybody, or no one wants to be offensive. Not that I would be offensive, I definitely like the no offense but the gospel. Yeah, and like if something's offensive to you, I would only want it to be the gospel and not any my own personal opinion. Um, but I do think like we should talk about topics on our card and topics that maybe most people see one way, but the Bible says a different way. Um, and so I think. That that's another plane of kind of what we're going to talk about this season when we look at the topics and ideas for the podcast.
SPEAKER_01So, going off that, what kind of topics are we going to talk about?
SPEAKER_00So some of the reverse in okay. My turn to answer questions. Um, some of the things that we're going to talk about that you can hear about on the podcast this season include things like how do we grow personally? Um, what would I tell myself if I was looking back? What would I tell 20-year-old me versus me now? Um, biblical literacy and why that matters. Why it why does it matter what the Bible says and why does it matter if we know what the Bible says? Dealing with anxieties, how to live in community, um, maybe some idols in our lives that we don't necessarily see as idols all the time. Um, what other topics? What other things, fun things do we have planned?
SPEAKER_01I feel like we'll get some some random off-track commentary because we do that.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, and I definitely want to be, I almost said the word relevant. I don't really care if I'm relevant to society. Um, I do think we'll talk about maybe like things that are going on. Like hot topics, yeah, yeah, culturally, worldwide. I'm not gonna give you a political commentary um and tell you who to vote for. Not gonna happen. Um, but again, it goes back to everything we do comes from a faith standpoint and from a what does the Bible say about this topic? And so I think it it would be unwise or um lacking, maybe if we steered away from certain topics because yeah, like should I just say we're gonna talk about the topic of sex in marriage because that feels like a topic that no one should talk about, especially in the church. But then I 1000% believe everybody should talk about it in a good way. Yes, yes, um, but like things like that topics that no one wants to talk about. Another one that comes to my mind that's personally is like fertility issues. I'm sure we'll talk about that at some point. Um, because that also feels like a topic that no one wants to talk about. Yeah. Or feels like cabby or uncomfortable to talk about. So I don't know. I think those will be good.
SPEAKER_01Um singleness, that will be a very good one. We'll talk about. Yeah. Um because obviously I'm going through it. Katie at one point had gone through it. Yeah. Um, and I knew her towards the end of it before she met Nathan. So there'll definitely be some some, I guess more not necessarily taboo, but maybe taboo conversations that, like we said, that that need to be had. Um, there needs to be a little less awkwardness to it because um we're human, these things happen. Yeah. Or if these don't necessarily happen to you, then I'm sure you know someone in your life that is struggling with something, struggling with infratern infertility. Um so we hope that this will just be an encouragement to again have those conversations with people. Yeah. Um but then also encourage you to open your Bible. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Um, yeah, because I just think back over the last, I don't know, eight, nine, ten years, 10, 11 years. Um and like choices that I would make differently now, and how the Lord has used bad choices. Not that that's like a um like a go go and make bad choices, like plug, but how gracious the Lord has still been to use decisions I made 10 years ago to grow me and to shape me now. Um, and again, on this being like just a conversation between two friends and just besties, like these are the conversations friends are having. Yeah. Um, and so we just want to invite everybody into the conversation with us. We've had all these conversations. Yeah, because we've talked about these things for years, but inviting others into the conversation with us and then sharing what the Lord has done in our own lives through that, hopefully to encourage other people on their own walks with the Lord um and their own growth in Him as they think through or as they walk through these different situations or um ideas, whatever. Yeah, absolutely. Perfect.
SPEAKER_01Well, did we want to talk about how we met? Oh, yeah, that's a good story.
SPEAKER_00That is a good story. So it was 2017, and I was working as a physical therapist at a hospital in Sherman, Texas, and I get this. Um you just came in. I just showed up. So that's what I do. I'm in the office, and I don't think our director or my direct supervisor was there. I don't think so. Because I wasn't a supervisor yet, but I was like, if these two people aren't here, Katie's in charge kind of person. Yeah, it was you that day. So this girl shows up and somebody's like, Hey Katie, someone wants to talk to you. And I was like, I don't want to go talk to anybody. Because if you work in the healthcare, yeah, you know exactly. So I go out there and there's this girl, and she's like, Hi, my name's Sierra. And Becca told me that I should come give you my resume. And so I'm sure I was rude. I hope I wasn't.
SPEAKER_01I might have been a little rude. I don't think honestly, I don't fully remember like any kind of vibe you gave off because I was just so mesmerized by the red lipstick you had on. Oh my gosh, you've never told me that. I literally that red lipstick, like I just remember that and your dark hair, but definitely your red lipstick. I was like, this woman is a boss. Oh my gosh, you've never told me that. I absolutely love that. Seriously, that anytime you write wear your red lipstick, I just I get flashbacks to that time.
SPEAKER_00I know I love red lipstick.
SPEAKER_01You know, I love lipstick, and I love red lipstick. It's a statement piece because I still remember almost 10 years later.
SPEAKER_00That is like the best problem. I mean, maybe not, but I I love that. So thank you. Can't believe I've never told you that. That's amazing. Okay, so yeah, so you gave me your resume, and I'm sure I obviously turned it into my supervisor, and then you came and started working as a tech, and we just became like I can't believe that that was almost nine years ago. That's the first time. It was past nine years, but it was January. We've been friends for nine years, we've had a lot of life and a lot of life happening in the last nine years, which is crazy because I feel like I've known you since I was little. Yeah, I agree. You're one of those people that it's just been like, wait, Sierra has only been around nine years. Right? Like, where are our childhood pictures together? Yes, exactly. I agree a hundred percent. It's crazy. It is, and now I'm basically just part of y'all's family. You are, she's like my parents' favorite child. On I love it. Well, Nathan and I fight for that position. You and my husband. Whenever my mom texts like her children, Sierra's al always on the group chat. Insert hair flip. She goes on family vacations with us. You're on the family life 360. Yes, like everybody can see where you're out. That's how you know you're in right now. Nathan's not even on the live 360. Nope. Because he refused to get it. And then I convinced him to get it, and then he deleted it so I couldn't see him anymore. Not in like a shady way, just for everyone listening, just in a like, my husband hates technology kind of thing. He does. And why would he want anyone to track his phone? So that's super funny. But no, Sierra is on the family group chat in the family life through 60. And all my nieces or nephews are your Aunt Sassy to everybody. Yeah, my kids like don't know what life is without Aunt Sassy. No, because we have the best time. Yeah, I mean, you've been there for their whole lives, even like them being adopted and being cluster carries. Like you've been there the whole time.
SPEAKER_01Like, I literally just had a conversation with JR about I knew you when you were this tall.
SPEAKER_00It's crazy to me. His little belly. I know. I did find those pictures recently of when we dressed him up because I was having pictures done with him in his jeans.
SPEAKER_01Oh, yeah. His cowboy hat the biggest smile.
SPEAKER_00Oh we did pictures. We looked at those pictures recently and he got a good laugh out of them. Um I was like, that's what Sierra and I used to do. Before Nathan came along, Sierra and I would just dress JR up and just have the best time. So oh my gosh, that is too funny. Yeah. And then you were here that first Sunday after we got Grace on Friday. You were here that first Sunday, and I remember you kept bringing gifts, and you kept bringing gifts and you kept bringing gifts, and I was like, Sierra, you just kept bringing stuff in.
SPEAKER_01Um just so excited.
SPEAKER_00I don't even want to know, but I remember you sitting in the recliner just holding her for the first time, and I was like, All is right in the world. Oh my gosh. Um, so yeah, that is crazy. We've been friends for a long time, a lot of life. A lot of life. We've had a lot of life too, that we'll talk about.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, yeah. A lot of medical things that there are many a times where you would just tell me it's okay to cry. That's true, but you're not allowed to stay there. That's true.
SPEAKER_00That's true. We can walk through suffering, but we can't say that.
SPEAKER_01Yes, we have to keep going. Yeah. Absolutely.
SPEAKER_00Those are all things that we'll talk about.
SPEAKER_01Yep.
SPEAKER_00As we go.
SPEAKER_01So yeah, I hope you guys had a great time listening to us. Just literally chat like besties. So this is how we talk to each other. Um, and I hope you got to know us a little bit, and as well as where we're wanting to take this podcast, some of our goals, and just how we want to just continue sharing the gospel um as we go through life.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, so thanks for listening to the very first episode of the Living with Grace and Sass podcast, where faith meets real life and best friend banter. Come join the conversation, Bestie.
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SPEAKER_00Bye.