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Sana Sana Anniversary Bash - Craft Beer, Food Trucks & Roosevelt Row Fun
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Episode 4 - In this episode, we recap our trip to Sana Sana Brewing Company’s one-year anniversary in downtown Phoenix and let’s just say… we did not ease into the day gently. Our show kicks things off with a bold beer from 8-Bit Aleworks. We talk about how we made our way through Sana Sana’s packed celebration, tried several standout pours, grabbed an incredible burger from La Hamburguesa, and wrapped up the day with even more beer in Roosevelt Row.
We talk about the atmosphere at Sana Sana, the brewery’s creative and flavorful beer lineup, and why their brewer made such a strong impression on us. From double IPAs and a Mexican lager to a mole stout and a blueberry empanada sour, this stop gave us plenty to talk about... and even more reasons to come back.
In This Episode
- Drinking Legend of Zymer from 8-Bit Aleworks
- Visiting Sana Sana Brewing Company for their one-year anniversary
- The energy and atmosphere in the Roosevelt District in downtown Phoenix
- First pours of the day and starting a little stronger than expected
- Food truck stop at La Hamburguesa
- Dedra’s thoughts on her burger and beer pairing
- A closer look at Sana Sana’s beer lineup
- Why the mole stout stood out so much
- Talking with the brewer and hearing the story behind the beer
- The slushie that sounded amazing but may have ended the day a little too early
- Thoughts on the blueberry empanada sour
- More beer stops in Roosevelt Row
- Ending the day at The Theodore
- Adam’s take on Personal Plague from RAR Brewing
- Adam trying to learn Untappd
Beers Mentioned
- Legend of Zymer - 8-Bit Aleworks
- Fourth and Roosevelt - Sana Sana
- Sopita Fria hazy double IPA - Sana Sana
- Santa Clara Mexican lager - Sana Sana
- El Andariego Guerrero Mole stout - Sana Sana
- Blueberry Empanada Sour - Sana Sana
- Space Boogie - Sana Sana
- Personal Plague - RAR Brewing
Food Mentioned
- Viva Mexico burger from La Hamburguesa
Places Mentioned
- 8-Bit Aleworks - Avondale, Arizona
- Sana Sana Cervesaria - Downtown Phoenix
- Roosevelt District / Roosevelt Row - Phoenix
- The Theodore - Downtown Phoenix
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Hello and welcome to another episode of the Adam and Deja Show. We're here drinking Legend of Zymer from 8-bit Aleworks out of uh Avondale, Arizona. I don't even know where the heck we're at nowadays, but cheers, everybody.
DedraCheers. And while he takes a sip and there's no awkward pause, let me read you the back of the can.
AdamThat is one I really like that one. It's a good uh West Coast style I IPA. I'm not gonna read the whole thing, but they put an insane amount of hops inside of this one.
DedraOoh.
AdamYeah, you taste it?
DedraYeah, that was I took a really big drink right there, and I wasn't expecting that much of a punch.
AdamAmarillo, mosaic, simco, citra, cascade, and Belma hops are added at every stage of the process. And this double dry hop legend will have you aching for more adventure. So that's crazy. So, I mean, not only are they adding the hops, they also dry hop it in the end. So this is just a hop bomb of flavor.
DedraYeah, I I I feel the chest here. I was like, woo.
AdamIt just curled.
DedraI'm I am awake.
AdamIt's uh sitting at 8.7%. So it's a double IPA.
DedraOh, perfect. Yeah.
AdamUm start the show. Yeah, if we ever go to this brewery, I just I no matter what, I'm getting it. If yeah, they usually have it on tap, obviously. It's one of their flagship ones, but it is an amazing IPA if you like the West Coast style. And if you liked uh your hairs to curl, I guess, in the meantime, too. But you know what? My mouth's watering, I'm having another drink.
DedraHey, and I I love their cans. I absolutely love their the labels, the beer cans, and everything. Um, it's just so creative, and I just I love the style of it.
AdamYeah, it's got that uh eight, like eight-bit, like the Mario Mario Brothers original Mario or Super Nintendo or not Super Nintendo for the name of the brewery. Yeah. Like regular Nintendo games is what I'm trying to get at. That's like all the styles on their cans are stylized in that original video game kind of kind of style.
DedraThey're so fun.
AdamIt is, yeah. Not to be confused with the 8-bit brewery out of Marietta, California. This one's 8-bit alehouse out of Avondale. Gosh, I don't know why I'm struggling saying that name so much. Avondale.
DedraYou are struggling.
AdamYeah.
DedraBut we had take another drink or a beer. Oh, all right.
AdamNo gotta tell me twice. Oh, we had a fun weekend though.
DedraIt was a ton of fun. We had a really good weekend.
AdamSo this weekend was uh a brewer brewery out in uh downtown Phoenix. I don't know why I keep saying California. We'd we've been there, we were there for so long, you know, hitting all those breweries. I'm just wanting to say California now. We're in uh downtown Phoenix at a brewery called Sana Sana. I think it's Sana Sana Service.
DedraOh, Phoenix?
AdamI know. I'm I'm gonna be trying to speak Spanish because half their their names, it's uh they're done in Spanish. It's actually a um um Mexican-owned, Latino-owned uh brewery, and uh not one of not the first in in the city, but uh it's it's just nice, just nice to see that you got some ethnicity with uh with everything.
DedraOh, absolutely, for sure.
AdamBut uh for one year. I I didn't know it's it's only been one year.
DedraIt seems like it's been longer than one year, but hey, cheers um to Sana Sana on their anniversary. That's that's awesome, and it was an amazing celebration. It was huge. If you didn't go, you definitely missed out.
AdamYeah, yeah. And it's uh they closed off the street right in front of the brewery, and this is downtown, so it's a it's a pretty busy area. It's a Roosevelt district in downtown Phoenix, and uh, I believe it's right off of Fourth Street and Roosevelt. Um great location. The Roosevelt uh district has a lot of great stuff, especially in the beer scene. Um, three, four breweries, uh tap houses, there's uh speakeasy and and plenty of food places. So, like, right, that's just our down our alley, isn't it? Yeah.
DedraHave some good beers, overeat, eat way too much, roll ourselves around downtown.
AdamYeah, it's a good day. So, I mean, I'm just there's a long list of beers that we've tried there or or have had, and I gotta say, their their brewer there is a very, very good brewer, I believe, and I could be wrong on this, uh, but uh somebody over there was telling me that he actually brewed for Bottle Logic. And for those of you that are not familiar with Bottle Logic, it's an amazing, amazing brewery out of uh Anaheim, California. And that they they specialize like in barrel age stuff and some one of the best barrel age programs across the country. They are they're just amazing. And for him to be a brewer there and and come over here to Phoenix, we we came up on that one. Yeah, we that was really on on that one. Well, the first beer I had was called Fourth and Roosevelt. It's kind of how I remembered where they were at.
unknownClever.
AdamWhich was uh double IPA, it was uh 8% and uh very good beer. I mean, it didn't have the hot bomb that this one has here, but uh it was a solid, solid double IPA. I mean, I I wanted to get things started with, you know, hit all the heavy hitters right off the bat.
DedraIt's and I accidentally did that. Like I looked at their menu, but I wasn't looking at the volume, and I was just like, oh, you guys know me hazy's. So I was just like, yes, give me that hazy right there. Um, but it ended up being a a hazy double double APA, yeah. We got there about 130-ish, 115, 130. And I was just really slow that morning. So I didn't, I don't know, I'm not really a big breakfast person. And I just had coffee, really took my time, got down to Sana Sonic because there was a lot of food trucks. I'm like, I'm not gonna waste my appetite on regular home food, you know. So I was like, I'm gonna go. We can make scrambled eggs, we could do anything, but yes, but I was I just really wanted to support the the scene out there. So I was like, oh, I'll there's gonna be food trucks, I'm gonna go support one of them. And there was a hamburger uh food truck and one that did wings. I really wanted to try the wing food truck, and I cannot for the life of me remember that one. But the hamburger one, that one, Lamborghista, oh my god, yeah, that was delicious. We'll talk about that later. Yeah. But so, like right off the bat, I get this this hazy double, and it's oh gosh. And I hate that I don't speak Spanish because I always feel like I just butcher everything. So can you tell me what that name of that one is?
AdamIt was a sapo verde. Let's do it easy.
DedraSapo?
AdamYeah. Very easy to say. But it was an 8.6 uh double IPA, hate hazy double IPA, whatever, yeah. And they poured it only, they sent him 11 ounce. I think they just eyeballed it. So 11 ounce was kind of just, you know, they poured it this much from the top of the cup.
DedraYes. So he comes back to the table with both beers, and I look at my cup and his cup, and his is filled up all the way. And I'm looking at mine, and I'm like, hey, what's up with this? And like, why don't I get a full cup? And my assumption, one of two things. Adam spills everything. So that was my first assumption. Oh, come on. I that much? Yes, that place was busy. So I assumed that you dropped, or not dropped, but you probably spilled at least three times minimum, going that 10 yards from the register to the table.
AdamYards. I think it was like 10 feet.
Dedra10 feet, 10 yards, 10 something. But I I there was a lot in my cup that was missing. So that was my first instinct was oh, he spilled that motherfucker spilled my beer. Damn it. And then my second one was he tried it. He tried it and he liked it, and he had a little too much of a taster. So it never occurred to me to be like, oh, hey, well, maybe it's just because it's an a high alcohol volume. That never occurred.
AdamYeah, which doesn't make sense because yours was 8.6% and mine was eight, and yet mine was a full cup, yours wasn't.
DedraSo that's the trick is get the eight percent because then you get a full pour.
AdamYep.
DedraDon't get the eight point six.
AdamI don't know. I had to have a I after I got that for you, and I never got a sip, by the way. Oh I ended up having to get one of those two.
DedraBecause I had a lot less in mine than you did. That's all right. I got another one.
AdamYeah, that was it was actually a really good one. So when I went back that second time, the line was just wrapped around the place. They had uh they were pouring outside too, and that was like, I guess the lines were just as long outside. I mean, it was packed. We walked in and they had more than just those two food trucks because it lined uh the one side of the road. So it had like three or four.
DedraI want to say there was a total of at least four.
AdamYeah. And you know, we saw that the the wing one, they had a taco one. Um I can't remember what the other one is, but like that hamburger one is the one that caught our eye. Oh, yeah, Lamborgheso. That was it was yeah, oh my gosh, it was really good. So after having our first beer, we had to go and get that food because both of us were sitting on an empty stomach drinking 8.5%, 8.6 or 8% alcohol beer. So yeah, we had to get that hamburger. So you sent me out there, and I was like, okay, I'll go get that. And my beer was getting down to like the very last bit. And I'm like, they're gonna call my name in like 20 minutes. I'm like, if I stand in this line, I'm not gonna get our next beer before I get the hamburger.
DedraAnd remember, my ankle's broken, so that's why you know, don't don't get judgy out there, be like, well, she could have gotten up in line and you know, ordered food or beer. It's I broke it pretty good. So I once I got hunker down at Sana Sana in the very back, I was just pretty much there. So that that's why. Nope, don't get judgy. That's why I didn't get up and help, or else I definitely we would have divide and conquer. I would have been like, all right, I'm gonna get the food because sometimes I can be picky. And for one, he he didn't order the fries. He came back and he was like, Here's a hamburger. And I was like, hey, awesome. Oh, look, our friends have French fries. How come we don't? Well, I So that's why I would have I would have gone and ordered the food, and then I would have trusted you to order the beer. But it's okay. We it was a long day. Well, we had a long day ahead of us, and we had plenty of food that you know we were just kind of eyeballing already anyway. So it's good. We we save some space for future food and beer.
AdamYeah, I was playing double duty. I had to.
DedraI know, I know, and I appreciate it.
AdamYeah.
DedraSo with that being said, um, that was the first one. And again, we're both sitting there in an empty stomach, didn't expect, you know, to hit it off so so crazy, like so hard. And for me, I am usually pretty good at keeping an eye on that. But once I saw how little was in my cup, and then I looked at the menu and I was like, oh, and I was like, oh no. And I was like, great, I better get some food real quick. Um, so once the hamburger came, um, I just wanted something a little bit light, something nice to kind of complement the burger. And I ended up getting the Mexican lager. Um, that was only five percent, only five percent. So I took it down a couple notches, and that was their Santa Clara. And that one I really liked because it was refreshing and I needed something like that. Because even though we were towards the back, it was still it was really crowded and it was still kind of warm. But just having something light like that plus eating, that that was good. I liked it, I really enjoyed it. It was very easy to drink.
AdamYeah, that one was uh I actually when I went and got that one, I ended up getting three beers. One for you and two for me.
unknownWow.
AdamWell, one of them was like it was that double hazy again. I'm like, well, I didn't get to try it, and you seem to like it a lot. So I was like, I got a stout, and I'm like, well, let me get this hazy also, that way I can at least try it and we can share it. But uh you did you didn't finish yours very fast.
DedraNo, because I was eating at the same time.
AdamSo that hamburger was good though. So I ended up getting one a hamburger called Viva Mexico, and it had a lot of chilies on there. Um, it came, it was, you know, a lot of hamburgers, and it was like the smash type patty, but it didn't come with uh tomato and lettuce and and uh it came with grilled onions. I like raw onion, I know you do especially, and I feel like it's a hamburger's not a hamburger unless it has some lettuce and tomato on there, also. So I had to get that added um with raw onion and uh that patty. And they had like, I don't know, I think it was like two different types of chili pepperjack cheese, and it like the first bite I had, oh, it was really good. I didn't get that spice. I let you, you know, go for a while, um, just because you know, you looked hungry.
DedraOh, I was so hungry.
AdamAnd I got that we got that hamburger, and I was just like, after I bought it there, I was like, oh, this is good. And then you gave me a hard time about the French fries, so yeah. Well, I gotta say, they did look a little pale, and that's I saw somebody coming around like away from there. I'm like, oh, those don't look all that great. But then it was like it probably was a lot more flavorful than it looked because I think they used beef tallow to fry their uh french fries in, and that always just adds a lot of flavor to it. So but they looked like so light. I wanted like nice crispy french fries.
DedraI I mean I I will never know.
AdamWell, unless we find them again, which is possible.
DedraTrue, yeah.
AdamBut that uh stout, I'm gonna go into that because it was amazing. It was a mole stout. So um I do I have had it before. Uh, not that particular one, but I have had mole stouts before. Um, but it was really interesting. I was actually talking to the brewer a little bit about it, and he was telling me that the ingredients that go into the mole from it was a chef that was, I believe, in town that makes a really good mole, I guess. Took his ingredients, broke them down, and uh he said that it only didn't use just a few ingredients. I know garlic and onion was a couple of them. Uh nobody wants that inside their beer. Well, but he all the ingredients.
DedraI can sort of a tahine room, little garlic room.
AdamYeah, there you go. You but he he broke down the ingredients into different uh sections. So he had like the spices, he had the the um chilies, he had the um the chocolate, and he had like I guess he said like four different additions and added it um cold at like after fermentation and everything, and added each one to get the right pro uh flavor profile to to end up being the mole flavor from this chef. And I just thought it was interesting. Oh, the nuts was the other the fourth edition. Yes, and uh so it was I mean, like, oh my gosh, the amount of work that went into that, and it was a 10.5% uh stout. I mean, that thing was had a a whole bunch of flavor. You could taste the chilies, the nuts, the chocolates, almost everything inside there, and it was just a big depth of flavor. You tasted it too.
DedraI did, and just sitting there and having that conversation with the brewer really opened up my eyes to just how much he loves the craft and the attention and everything that he took into making that beer, and when somebody appreciates and loves what they do to that extent, I really respect that. So I I really do appreciate the time and the thoughtfulness that he put into making this beer.
AdamYeah, and it gets better.
DedraHey, we should have had some of that to go.
AdamI know, but uh place was crazy.
unknownYeah, yeah, yeah.
AdamUm, they had put he said he put some inside of a barrel, so it's gonna be a barrel-aged beer, also. Yeah, and he he's afraid he doesn't know what the flavor profile is gonna come out, so he might have to add some additions in the end just to get the flavor back to that uh mole that that he wants, that mole flavor that he wanted. And uh, but he said it's not gonna be ready until Christmas. So I'm like, Well, Christmas, here we come. That's a happy or Merry Christmas to a happy Christmas. So I am I'm really looking forward to that, and I really, really want to try that. So I'm I really I'm I'm getting it.
DedraWell, another thing on their menu is they have these uh slushies, they have two slushies, they have a pina colada and then a chamoy chamoyolata? Chamoyulata? No, I'm not getting I'm not getting it right. And I was just looking at it, but it's uh it's their chamoy slushine. But it has um it's that's another 10%. And that was I really wanted to try that, but I was like, dang, 10%. And I was like, we still got a lot of day left in us, and I after having that slushie, I don't think I would have made it to the next stop or two. Um, but I think I would go there and start off with that and just kind of sip on that because it is a slushie. It had lime, obviously chamoy around the rim and tahim. It looked and sounded really good. So I'm actually excited and I can't wait to go back and and try that. And then we should get some of that that stout to go.
AdamOh, yeah. If they have it uh bottled, which I'm sure they do, or even a crowler to go. I mean, that was that was so good. I wouldn't mind trying that or having that again. That was amazing. Um, and I had something else there that was really interesting. Um, it was a blueberry empanada sour. So I didn't read the details. I tried to look it up uh but couldn't find information on it. And it's uh it was in collaboration, or I should say, made for the Copper State Brew Festival that was out back in January or February, I can't remember exactly uh what the date was on it. I believe it was end of end of January, but it was a bigger beer festival that's in Phoenix, and they made it for that brew festival. And I thought it was a really, really good sour. It had um, you know, the blueberry flavor was pretty strong in it, uh, a good tartness inside of there. Um, I didn't taste the empanada part, and maybe that's going back to uh, you know, bare knuckle brewing when we had those empanadas right in front of there.
unknownYeah.
AdamThat was uh it was actually a really, really good uh sour. And I enjoyed it. You had it, you thought it was a little tart though, huh?
DedraYes. Um, because I like my smoothie sours. I I like the thick stuff. So the watery kind gets it just it upsets my stomach after a while. I just I can't have too much of it. It's not watery. Okay. The non-smoothie sour thick.
AdamMore like the Berliner wise, the ones that are a little bit more like soda forward rather than the Yeah, it's just I'm not that kind of a sour person.
DedraI want the thick. Give me the three C thick sours. That's what I like, the kind where you you can't even use a straw. You gotta use a spoon.
AdamOh, yeah, that's good stuff.
DedraYeah. So my actually, um, most times I typically don't have any more than like two-ish, but this time it went all out because I was like, oh yeah, one year anniversary going three deep. So I got a third one. I got a third one, and it was a West Coast IPA and it was uh space, space bougie.
AdamNo, space boogie.
DedraUm, and that one I liked. I actually ended it there with the with the space boogie. Wow, I was like space boogie. Boogie. Not boogie like dance. I was like, oh no, was it really a space boogie? Oh yeah. Oh yeah, yeah. I went hard. Um, and it was actually a West Coast IPA, and it was called Space Boogie, and that was at 6.8. I was a little bit more careful on that one. Um Space Boogie? I after that first one that I had at eight, eight point six, I was like, okay. You know, I mean, I got at least half a hamburger in me. Um, so I was like, okay, I think I can go a little higher than you know my 5%. I really like that 5%, by the way. That was it did go really well with my burger, but I was like, okay, I'm gonna up it just a little. So I I got that the space boogie, and that one was a 6.8%, and I like that. That was that was a real easy drinker. That's almost like um almost like poolside or lake.
AdamWell, especially after having like a drinking 8.6, 8%. That 6.8 was like downright light.
DedraThat was well, no, because I had the the Santa Clara after that.
AdamThat's right. Which is that was that's really different for you. You never get Mexican lager. So that's actually pretty surprising.
DedraBut I like I said, I wanted something light and something clean to go with my burger, um, which was again was really good. But my only small complaint is that it had like the red chili flakes, and you know how they have like the the seeds, and if you're not careful, those can get wedged in your teeth. And if you don't have a floss, I mean, I don't really I don't carry a purse, so I don't have floss on me. So I was just really careful because I didn't want to sit there the rest of the day like tugging between my teeth trying to get that seed out.
AdamThat was spicy too. That was that was good.
DedraIt was, but that was that was my only small like oh man, it's it's the beginning of the day. I can't be here all day with this seed lodged between my teeth. Like that would just be my entire folk. I would be going up to strangers and asking, Do you have floss? Oh my gosh. Um that was my only small complaint. So if you do end up having that burger, uh definitely if you're thinking ahead of time, take a take a flosser with you or
AdamI was okay with because you know what I feel, you know, whenever they get rid of the seeds in those chilies, it loses all of its heat. And they didn't do that, they just like cut the chili right in half and stuck it right on the burger. I enjoyed it.
DedraTrue, like I said, and that's that's not my complaint. It's just like when the seed gets lodged in your teeth, and then you're sitting there tonguing it the whole day. That's not fun.
AdamNever is.
DedraSo that was that was my three that I had, but I really do want to go back and try those slushies and try that one slushy.
AdamYour light 6.8% West Coast.
DedraYeah, I like that one. Do you know what that one was good?
AdamThe sour, that uh blueberry empanada one, that was at 6.7%. So they they really like to up the alcohol on their on their their beers. I mean, they did have like that uh Mexican lobber lager. I bet you if you made that one into a like a high gravity one, that would be kind of uh it wouldn't get the same uh reaction, I would think, as on for like our light beer for sure.
DedraRight, right.
AdamWell, we went out there and there was uh a lot of good people that we ran into. Not only did we meet some some new friends out there, uh we ran into a lot of old friends too. And uh, you know, we ended up because we're out there in uh Roosevelt district, we ended up uh walking the the street, which is actually really difficult when you're limping along on a busted foot, but yeah, busted ankle, not busted foot. But um, you I mean it wasn't that far going from place to place. We kind of like hopscotched it from place to place before heading heading back home. But uh well there's um one beer that I that I have to mention, and it was at uh the Theodore. And the Theodore is a beer bar that's in Roosevelt District. It's right downtown, also, just probably like two blocks over from um where Sana Sana is. And it was uh made, or was it A R A R? Is that the brewery?
DedraI believe so, yeah.
AdamIt was like out of Maryland, I think, right?
DedraYeah, rar.
AdamRar. But it was called Personal Plague, which was uh another double hazy, and um there's some that just they're just so much better than others. And that was one of them. It was like 8.5%. It was cloudy, murky. Oh my gosh, it was it was so good. And that was like the last beer I had before we headed back home. At least I think so. I don't know. It gets kind of gets kind of uh foggy after that. That was a lot, but it was it was a it was a great time, and you know what I'm trying to do? What I'm trying to do untapped now. I've I've had it for years and years, I never understood it, but I'm going to try to do it. And I I did it for for our podcast. I'm actually gonna be trying to put the beers that we have on there, so I'm not very good at it yet. I will get better at it, I promise. So if you find us on there, just hit the follow button.
DedraI know nothing about untapped.
AdamI'm learning.
DedraAnd if I was on there, I'd it would just be Miller Light. Miller Light. Did you have a Miller Light over here and over there too? Dang, this ship. Anything else other than Miller Light? I do.
AdamObviously. We're having some legend of Zymer right now.
DedraIt's just my super easy go-to beer that I can drink at work. I mean, just kidding. Whoops. No, it's just it's just like my everyday go-to, super easy, super simple. I can get it anywhere, and it's cheap. And it doesn't give me a headache, no hangovers, nothing like that. Um, but I'm I'm glad you're doing untapped because I I'll figure it out. That would be terrible.
AdamAnybody out there give me some pointers, you know. I'd love the comments. Well, I appreciate you all joining us today. We had to do this uh special edition one-year anniversary for Sana Sana on our podcast today, on our show, however you want to describe it. But uh, we had a great time out there. And uh, you know, again, we're always looking for suggestions, so please subscribe if you need to find us on Instagram, Facebook. We're there.
DedraCheers, everybody