2 Vintage Sports Guys - Episode 18

Episode 18: Join Joe and special guest host, Kevin L. Warren, from Sports Chasers. They break down the Mets-Yankees Subway Series, with the Mets getting run over in the opener. They look at the current NBA Playoffs games and predict who's winning it all.

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Transcript

SPEAKER_01 0:07

Good afternoon, everyone. This is Joe Rendacci from Two Vintage Sports Guys. Welcome you back to another podcast episode. My partner in crime, Paul, is I don't know, out there like Wales Waldo somewhere. We'll uh we'll find him eventually. But we don't need him, but we have great guest hosts as I have today. So I'm gonna kick it off to my special guest. And uh how would you like me to introduce you? Just do the intro yourself.

SPEAKER_00 0:32

Hey, um I'm just you can just simply call me Kevin or Kev. Um Kevin L. Wine. I'm the host and moderator of the Sports Chases, uh Sports Chases Media Group, and we're a multifaceted um um sports uh podcast where we just talk about sports. We talk anything from MLB to NHL to MBA to WMBA. We got specialists on there, insiders, and we just love sports, and we just kick about sports. We go live twice a week on Monday nights and on Thursday nights, both at 7 p.m. Eastern um daylight savings time. We also just did a live here this just um a few hours ago at 11 o'clock. We talked about just baseball, MLB. So make sure you catch that also, man. So, like I said, we talk all sports and we love it. And you can just call me Kevin. I'm the host and moderator of the sports chases.

SPEAKER_01 1:23

Very cool. Thank you, sir. So so uh, yeah, please go check out uh Kevin's site uh for the latest episodes. Let's kick it off into baseball. You and I are two old school Brooklyn-born, now uh in witness relocation in South Florida. But that's all right. We we can still hear the accents, we could still do a uh a good Mets Yankees love hate rivalry. Uh we had one last night. We had the kickoff of the three-game series. Uh as usual, my Mets are pathetic and your Yankees are thriving. But why don't you give me some of your thoughts? What's your what you thought of the uh the kickoff game?

SPEAKER_00 2:01

Uh so we we just like I said, we just did a show on on baseball and we talked about the um rivalry game. And um Mets and Yankees, yes, I I would say um rivalry game, I don't think it means a lot right now because the Mets are no good, you know. As you know, I hate to say it, but it is what it is with the Mets. And meanwhile, the Yankees uh in Yankee Stadium, they're thriving, they're doing well, they're doing um some good things this year. And um, you know, it's pretty much with the Yankees, you know, World Series or bust, man. And that's what it that's that's what it boils down to. And if you watch the game last night, you know, the Yankees coming away with the victory, it's pretty much been a dichotomy of both of both teams in both seasons, and how the Yankees go out and win, and how the Mets, unfortunately, how they go out and they're unable to, you know, win ball games.

SPEAKER_01 2:51

So but yeah, here's what I'll say to that. I all true. Um, and there this I you know, there's nothing I could say, the Mets are awful, but it's beyond the injuries, because they are injured, and then and Holmes got injured again, you know, he's injured last night, so he's out. So he could join a list of people that are hurt, but they stunk before most of them got hurt because when when um David Stearns put this together, it's the first time in a lifetime that I looked at the roster and I really felt nothing. I mean, after you get rid of Nemo and McNeil and Polar Bear, not that they could win, but they we felt like we had more of a unit. He's plugging these people in, looking at a stat sheet like the old Billy Bean A's days. And you're missing, I think you're missing heart, right? Like, I don't like Juan Soto. I don't care how much he he hits, I don't care what we paid him. He's the guy that shows up. If you remember Major League, which is the greatest sports movie, there's Major League, Major League Two, okay? When the when the Chicago um catcher with the glasses, he's the hired gun that comes in, and then he they trade him to the other side. That's one soda. He could care less. He wipes his tears with his money. He just they they said there's no love in that clubhouse for him or from him. That's that's the inside Met's word.

SPEAKER_00 4:21

I I'll say this, Joe, and like we said, we talked about ad nauseum about your your Mets, unfortunately. Yes, um, Stern is one of these nerd guys. He's the Daryl Maury of the MOB. If you don't, you know, for your viewers don't know, Darryl Morey's, you know, looks like he's gonna be the former um GM of the um Philadelphia 76ers. I I just don't like the the the uh analytics guy, man. I I just think, like you said, there needs to be a heart to go along with the numbers. And it needs to be a feel. It needs to be a it needs to be a fit. And like you said, yeah, we wanted to keep Juan Soto, but Juan Soto left for whatever reason, it looked like he left for more money. Um, so be it. And so he went, and you know, the Yankees went about their business, and Juan Soto, you know, him, they said there's him beef between him and um what's your shortstop? I can't think of his name right now, but um they got beef, yeah. Lindor, they got they got beef, and you know, you lost, um, like you say, you lost the polar bear, you lost uh Nemo, you lost uh what's my man, Jeff, Jeff McNeil. That went, they they shipped him out to to Sacramento.

SPEAKER_01 5:27

Oh, Oakland, flying squirrel. They said about Oakland.

SPEAKER_00 5:30

You know what I'm saying? And I'm like, I'm like you. I said, what were the Mets thinking? What was he thinking of? But I think these one of these analytical guys who think they're too smart, in my opinion, I think they're too smart for their own good, and they don't they don't put the human element with the stats. And you know, when if if if you're old school baseball guys like me and Joe, you know, managers don't look at the the sheets. Sometimes it's just a gut feeling, sometimes it's just a you know, what's deep inside? Hey man, so and so, hey, I'm gonna have you come off the bench today, man, and make you do something. And sometimes that stuff works. And in baseball, I think you absolutely need that, you know, that that that factor within you. You you can't do it by analytics just alone. And you know, yeah, Oakland was successful, Billy Bean back in those days, because they had to because of the money and stuff like that. By now, I I just think you know, you just need to just you know look at your play and see what's a good fit for your organization, man. And yeah, you guys got a higher gun. You got Juan Soto. Yeah, he went for the highest, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 6:34

And and at one point he had the one hit last night in home run, and that was it. So, like, so whether we lose five one, five, two. But just to finish up on on what you were saying there, it you know, a stat doesn't hit hit the ball, the bat hits the ball, right? There's my little rhyme for the day. But when you look back on the whole money ball era of the A's, and if you ever watched a movie with Brad Pitt, the three names they failed to mention through all those stats and all those utility people are the three all-star pitchers in Barry Zito, Tim Hudson, and Mark Boulder. Like, oh, by the way, while we while we took this, you know, utility guy who could hit this, this, we failed to mention the three all-star pitchers for that run, right? You need the those players, right? So I I'm beyond all that stat stuff. That work might have worked for him in Milwaukee, uh even though he he didn't have a championship banner hanging there from that. And matter of fact, it was Polar Bear who went in and beat those Brewers two years ago in their playoff run. But I I I digress. But yeah, I I and and the only thing I would say about the Yankees, and I'm I'm not even talking as a Met fan Yankee hater, it's just kind of reality. You you can beat all the bad teams all day long, and that's what you need to do, but you struggle against the good teams. And and that's you just struggled against the Brewers, right?

SPEAKER_00 8:00

They swept them, Brewers swept them, yeah. Right. What's my man? Uh the Miz. Miz came in there just pitching um 105, 106, right out the gate. So, you know, the Bruce the Brewers are a good team, man. So, like you said, uh, you can't just beat just the bad teams when it comes time. If you look, just to focus, just to if you look at Atlanta this week, how they beat the Cubs two out of three. And that I thought that was a very good litmus test for Atlanta for the Braves, you know, beating the Cubs two out of three, because Atlanta, in my opinion, I think they're the toast of the town in the National League East, even though the Phillies have looked like they have turned some things around. Shout out to Donnie Baseball, uh, getting them looked like they're right. And Kyle Swore, he is stroking the baseball, man, for sure.

SPEAKER_01 8:45

So you just hurt my heart again because the one city when we left New York, the one city I went to was the worst place to go as a Mets fan, which was Atlanta. For 30 years of kicking our ass, I had to live in that city for 15 years and watch friggin' chops and everything else, right? Like so, and every time you think they're down, they just come right back. Just like last year, they had a bad year. Here they come, right?

unknown 9:13

Yep.

SPEAKER_01 9:14

And I had to do a work event last week, and where was it? Brave Stadium. Yeah, right in the battery. Luckily, the Tigers beat them that one day, but yeah, no, uh, from that standpoint, the Yankees will they make the playoffs? Sure. Will they probably win that division? Uh the East. Uh we'll see. I mean, Toronto may make a run, you know.

SPEAKER_00 9:36

Don't sleep on Tampa, though. Tampa's is ahead of the Tampa let's just focus on Tampa real quick, Joe. They continue to keep doing what they're doing. And you know, you live on that side of the state, man. And you probably hear a little bit more than me, but they continue, they they do the Billy Beanway, man. They do scouting and stuff like that. And um, they're always around the top or or or near or or in the playoffs for the last year.

SPEAKER_01 10:01

Oh, and you know why they're playing better right now? Because they're back in their um hurricane-blown Tropicana stadium after having to play in George Steinbrenner Field in the minor league stadium for the Yankees last year. For a year, yep. Outside in the searing heat.

SPEAKER_00 10:19

In South Florida, yes, correct.

SPEAKER_01 10:22

That was that was brutal. And so they still don't know what they're gonna do with with Tropicana was supposed to be torn down and be rebuilt right now, but the new um politics took over, and we still don't know what's happening there. So but all right, well, let's let's look around uh the league. What else did you see in baseball last night? Like you said, Braves beat the Red Sox in 10. Uh Cubs keep winning. They they beat their crosstown White Sox, but did you see any other game of note that uh you think is of interest?

SPEAKER_00 10:55

Um what was it? The um the um Cleveland and um Cleveland and Cincinnati series, man. If you um saw if you saw that game. I mean, both teams, you know, Cleveland's the top uh uh is the top of the AL Central and Cincinnati. I I think um one of our guys on our show, um uh the National League Central probably right now is the base best uh division in baseball, man. Everybody's above 500. And um the Reds and um well, who was it? The Reds and I want to say the Pirates are right there, 25 and 21, and they're they're they're right there in it. But to get back to the your first point, I think the Cleveland and um Cincinnati series, the battle for Ohio, um, you know, and how how that's going. And what was the other game?

SPEAKER_01 11:41

Well, let me let me just let's stay on that one for a sec, because I just want to make a point with Cincinnati Cleveland. That's a 2-2 game going into the top of the eighth when they then gave up nine runs between them in the eighth and ninth inning, which now comes back to my continuing gripe that they now bring up relievers who can just throw 100 miles an hour but barely have any control. You see that the amount of hit batters uh going up each year, and the amount of runs and and leads blown late in the games, right? How do you have a two-two? You've given up four runs combined in the first seven and you give up nine runs in the last two innings. Did everybody figure out how to hit the ball or can you can't pitch as well?

SPEAKER_00 12:29

I I think it's a little bit of both, especially the the pitcher, man. Like you said, everybody's just throwing 100 plus miles an hour, man. But if you if you get in, if you if you've gotten to a place, not gotten to a place, if you can just learn, I think now pitchers, excuse me, hitters are getting smart, right? I think now we've gotten away from the era of you know, the you know, just hit the long ball. I think teams now are doing what? They're doing hitting and running, hitting back to hitting and running, stealing bases and and and some of those things to get these teams, you know, to get run run production instead of waiting for the do you run bomb or the the the you know bases clearing, um whatever.

SPEAKER_01 13:08

So yeah, I it's I I just see a lack of I mean it it goes back to starting pitching. If if they make it past five to get the wind and they get out of there lucky. Like I I might have mentioned uh what when I interviewed Tommy John recently and I took a look at his stats, he had eighty-seven no decisions, and I think he had uh like a hundred and two. He had a crazy amount of complete games, right? Like win or lose. They just don't do that anymore. The game doesn't do that, but like you you're lucky half of these starting pitchers could get through five to even be eligible for the win. And there are some and as you've seen in the last few years, there are some teachers, uh teams and coaches that aren't even managing to get the starting pitcher a win anymore. If they gotta pull them in three or four, they just do it. And I I don't think I like that after watching baseball for 50 years, like since a kid.

SPEAKER_00 14:16

So I I'll I'll I'll I'll point this out. Uh, if you don't remember, if the um back in the 90s when the the Yankees were winning their World Series, I think the Yankees started this stuff. Mel Staromai on his crew, um, with you know, you went to uh Nelson in the seventh, and then you went to you went to before Mariano was Mariano, he had he pitched the uh eighth, and then you had Wetland, who they got from who, the Montreal Expos at the time, and then they closed the door. That's that's how that used to be. And so they shortened the game. And like you said, now it's on steroids, so to speak, where like you just said, they don't even, hey man, if you don't get if you don't make it to the fifth in the man, we don't care, man. If you ain't doing your thing, we're gonna we're gonna bullpen committee this out until we get the victory, man. That's why I think some of the changes for if you if you remember my Rob Manford makes some of these these changes with the um bringing pitchers in, and you know, you gotta the pitchers have to, I want to say the rule is you gotta um pitch like to two battle minimum before you pull the um pitcher out again. I mean, excuse me, before you um make a change, uh a pitching change again. So yeah, it's it's a hard watch. And no, it's it's it's having no complete games, man, that's just what it is now, man. Uh, I guess I've come to accept it, man. But I'm like you, I don't like it, man.

SPEAKER_01 15:36

But I've it's it's what it is. I I get it is what it is. Um, but yeah, I may have just too old to I mean, hell, the show's called two vintage sports guys. I'm one of them. You're standing in as the other one, right?

SPEAKER_00 15:49

So I'm with you, bro. I'm I'm with you, man. I I yeah, it's it's yeah, I would like somebody just hey man, just go nine-innings, man. Just go there, just top it out and just go. But now with the inventor pitch clock uh, excuse me, with the pinch cap pitch uh count, it's it's it's going to this thing, man. And that's what it is, man. Unfortunately.

SPEAKER_01 16:08

Yeah, I just sound like a grumpy mining job man. Now, I should finish each one of these little rants with a little Clint Eastwood, get off my lawn, um, you know, audio. All right. Let's jump into the uh the NBA playoffs. So I I gotta admit, I called Detroit in seven, but I didn't expect the wins and losses to go this route. Uh, what do you think going into the game seven?

SPEAKER_00 16:34

Listen, Cleveland should have finished that deal last night and they just wet the bed. I won't cuss on your show, man, but they just absolutely wet the bed. And we said it on Thursday night when we was on. We was like, if Cleveland's gonna get this series, is Spider Mitchell they gonna get it? They gotta win. Um, yes, they had to win last night, and they didn't get it done last night. And I'm with you, Detroit will win uh tomorrow night, man, and close it out. The thing about Detroit, and I love Cake Cunningham, I love him. I love his game and everything, man, but he needs some more help offensively on the offensive, and I think that's why Detroit has has struggled offensively. They don't have enough to um finish. Um they've they've done their things with Cleveland, of course, and they they have defense, man. But I think offensively, man, it's gonna be tough for them, you know, if if they happen to move on.

SPEAKER_01 17:27

Where do you put anything on Harden? I was listening to Stephen A. Smith on ESPN. They were yapping about does he show up, not show up as usual. What do you put on Harden for last night? What does he got to do in in game seven?

SPEAKER_00 17:40

He's got he's gotta win. He's he's got the stigma of only just being a regular season dude, and that's it. He's got to put up a shut up. He's gotta do it. Yes, he's a great scorer. He does all those things, man. But when it comes to the playoffs, man, he's pretty much hasn't been not doing well. Now, this this playoffs he he has, but I'm just saying for his legacy sake, you know, this generation always talks about legacy. I think James Harden, he needs to go out there and put Cleveland on his back, so to speak. And he needs to go out there and get the get this V, this victory tomorrow. And you know, they'd be in the Easter Conference Finals against my Knicks.

SPEAKER_01 18:20

So okay, so so you so I'm sorry, so you call Cleveland or Detroit? Who's winner?

SPEAKER_00 18:25

I'm calling Detroit, man.

SPEAKER_01 18:27

I'm calling Detroit. So we both agree Detroit. Now, taking your bias out of it. Yes. Knicks Detroit. Give me your call.

SPEAKER_00 18:37

If the Knicks in Detroit happen to face, I think this will be another seven-game series. The Knicks beat them last year. Uh, like I said, I don't think the I don't think Detroit has enough offense. I think the Knicks will get Detroit in six games. The Knicks have been playing phenomenal. Every time, ever since they lost their game three in Atlanta, and it looks like they had a come to Jesus meeting meeting about playing defense, the Knicks have been tenacious. And as Walt Claude Fraser would say, Razzle Dazzling, they've just been doing all the right things, and they've been shooting lights out from three-point line, which we all know that could that could be hit or miss. But they have absolutely been doing a great job from that three-point line, man, and doing their thing.

SPEAKER_01 19:20

Yeah, I I I don't I think it's gonna be Detroit Knicks, and I try to look at it you can never look ahead. Meaning, right? What happened in the Atlanta Knicks series? Knicks had to find their footing and then they historically blew them out. I never thought Atlanta had a chance anyway. Okay, so let's let's close that book on that series. Philly, obviously, seven seed rallies back from 3-1 against the depleted Boston. I didn't think Philly was any good. I didn't think they were gonna do anything against the Knicks. I thought the Knicks would beat them in five. Um, did anybody think Philly was gonna really put that to seven to the Knicks? Knicks played great, but they should blow the doors off, in my opinion, should have blown the doors off of Philly. So, okay. Golf clap, close that book. Now, this is a new series. Detroit has they found life, right? They should have lost to Orlando if they came back. They could have lost, right, in this last game to Cleveland and been out. I think they win and roll on. And then I think game one won't tell us anything, Detroit, New York, because the Knicks will be so rested. If they lose, you'll hear they were rested. They'll come back, win game two, and then it'll be one-one going back to New York. And then I think game three would tell us something, right? But that's me just projecting like out further. Wait, where do you think about that?

SPEAKER_00 20:57

Uh I think you're right. If the Knicks, you know, if it happens to be New York, the Knicks in in the Pistons and they happen to lose game one, like you said, you know, uh, you know, the Knicks uh they was they rested too much, which could be a thing, man. I was I was reading the other day how they was practicing and you know, just you know, going through some of the things. But uh, you know, they're professionals. I think they should be going out and be ready. And and I think the Knicks could could absolutely beat the Pistons. And I think I'm gonna say if I'm gonna say the Knicks in six, if it's like that.

SPEAKER_01 21:31

And and I I I don't disagree. I think they should win the series. I think they probably will. I get Leeria teams that play as well as the Knicks played because you're setting a bar they're not used to doing chin ups on. They don't they don't play like that all the time.

SPEAKER_00 21:54

So, Joe, let me stop you right there. So that's why I had the trepidation with the the 76ers, the Philadelphia 76ers. Series. I was like, there's no way the Knicks are gonna be doing this. And then game one, game two, and then game was it, game two? I was like, no, game two is where I think they just um they just squeaked it out. Then game three, and then I was like, and and I still wasn't believing. Then game four, I was like, last Sunday. So, yes, as a long-suffering Knicks fan, yes, I absolutely, you know, hide my eyes sometimes, and I can't believe what I see. So I do hold some reservation for that. I wouldn't even get on social media, I wouldn't even talk joke to some of my people. I'm like, hey man, one day, one game at a time, man. That's that's where I'm at, man. One game at a time.

SPEAKER_01 22:39

Fair enough. So let's jump into then game one uh San Antonio at OKC.

SPEAKER_00 22:48

San Antonio, man, that's gonna be a good series, man. When beyond it, man, he's uh he's he's a dog, man. He he's a dog. But OKC, man. Last year, from what they're doing last year and this year, they pretty much just picked up and kept keep doing what they're doing, man. Just defensively, man, they are dogs when it comes to that defense, man. They just harass you and they just they just make it hard for you to score, which, you know, in this minor NBA, man, you know, some of us might have a problem because, you know, defense sometimes is just not there. But don't tell OKC that because they come out every night and they play defense, man. And uh, you know, Shake uh SGA, man, how's he plays, and some of my former Nick people on there, man. I just think OKC is just strong. I think this is gonna be a seven-gate series. I think this is gonna be the better series out of the two. And I think my opinion, I I I strongly believe OKC will go back to the NBA finals.

SPEAKER_01 23:44

Absolutely. I'm just gonna say OKC, OKC and six, and I won't add anything more to what you said. So let's jump ahead now. Let's let's it's Knicks beat Detroit. Knicks OKC. I'll make it easy. I'll lead. OKC and six.

SPEAKER_00 24:02

Yeah, I don't, I I would I have would the Knicks have a chance? Yes, because the Knicks, you know, I think um behind Mike Brown, you know, I've had my um trepidation about Mike Brown this year, man, but he looked like he's turned it around. Uh man, but you know, they faced OKC. It's I'm gonna say the same thing, Joe. I'm um uh long time Knicks fan here, but if they face OKC in the finals, I think OKC will get them in it'll be in six games, man, because of what they do, man.

SPEAKER_01 24:33

So and I think if you're the Knicks and you lose to to the defending champions in the finals in six, you can't you don't bow your head to that, you come back strong next year. Because the problem is OKC has got, I think I forget the number, 16 first and second round picks. Yes, next five or six years. So you are looking at a dynasty that likes of the Bulls, and again, that's a lot of years that have to play out, a lot of things could happen, a lot of injuries, a lot of lotta, lada. But you can't be this good right now, about to probably win back to back and then have 16 one and two picks, uh, first round, second round picks in the next five years.

SPEAKER_00 25:25

Sam Sam Preste is the toast of the town in OKC, the the general manager for OKC, man. What he has done, how he's constructed this roster, and and now, of course, you know, you'll see all the copycats trying to do what he does, man. And but he's he's constructed this this roster, which is uh, as of course we know the strong roster, and some of the I would call it diabolical moves that he has made to get, like you said, for the future. So, hey, this this machine will keep running the way it is.

SPEAKER_01 25:57

So, and that that that's gonna be kind of scary and kind of crazy, you know. Like I was literally listening to, and I think again, I think Stephen A was talking about he loves Anthony, you know, Ant-Man, he loves Anthony Edwards and he thinks he's the next Jordan and yada yada yada. But he's like, if I'm him, I'm getting the hell out of that Western conference and go, I'm going over to the east, and I'm picking a team that if I have to see OKC, it's in the finals, and we see if I could win it. Because between, as you said, Wemby in uh with the Spurs for the next X amount of years, right? And and and OKC, what what are you doing there in the West if you're these other teams?

SPEAKER_00 26:41

Praying, hoping, wishing. That's what you're doing, right?

SPEAKER_01 26:47

We could well, I guess we'll end this episode on a prayer there, right?

SPEAKER_00 26:57

For those that are here, I just did the uh you know, the Hail Mary.

SPEAKER_01 27:01

So Hail Mary. So uh well, let's let's just end it on this. I think you're uh a New York Giants football fan. What's your thoughts on on your your upcoming Giants?

SPEAKER_00 27:11

Hey man, I saw the schedule come out. Uh I am very, very uh happy for what we did. We got Harbaugh, we got a coach. Looks like we got some looks like we're gonna have some stability in the building. I don't know about keeping the general manager around, but I think Harbaugh will outlast the general manager. But we'll see. We'll see. Um Jackson Dart, and man, I think he's our he's our guy. Uh Cam Scatterboo, man. Man, he plays hard, man. But I don't know how to do it.

SPEAKER_01 27:37

I love Scatterboo from Arizona State.

SPEAKER_00 27:39

Yeah, I don't know how long he's gonna be around, man, because he's he's played so hard, man. And, you know, you know, the uh the Giants got some uh you know neighbors. I think he had another surgery, man. So hopefully, you know, we'll have to look how the draft picks pan out. You know, I'm I'm not this person that says, hey, yo, you have to just wait how they pan out, man, how they mess with the team and things of that nature. And when comes training camp and when comes um September when football seasons, you know, you're you're hopeful, man. You know, you're hopeful for this, man. But I think the Giants' future is bright, and I just like how they um they just went for it and went and got Harbaugh. You know, even though Harbaugh, he, you know, he ended a bad note in in um Baltimore. Now, Baltimore wins wins that playoff game. Guess what? Uh I mean, excuse me. Um if they win, you know what? Harbaugh's still coaching in Baltimore. Let's just just be real with that, right? Um, unfortunately, they lose, and now one man's trash is another man's treasure.

SPEAKER_01 28:37

Man, you want to talk about franchises. When Pittsburgh wins that on that misfield goal, it just you just you get tired. I mean, again, long suffering, met jet fan, like we don't get those breaks. Like Mets are used to we, you know, again, I and I tell this all the time my like my son came home crying in second grade 20 years ago, and I said, What happened? And he goes, Some Yankee kid came over and told me Mets stands for my entire team sucks. And I just put my arm around him and I said, Son, that's true. Get used to it. Right? Like, so and we know Jets is just stands for just end the season. So I mean, with teams like this, they haven't come up with an Islanders acronym yet, but I'm still looking for it.

SPEAKER_00 29:26

It's been a long time since those four cups in the 80s.

SPEAKER_01 29:30

Yeah, I I didn't become a fan until 93, so of course I missed all that anyway. So greatest year of my life is still 1986. I graduated high school and the Mets won the World Series. That was it.

SPEAKER_00 29:41

True story about that, Joe. I was in high school, I was in high school there, and I'll never forget. Um I was in so I went to social studies class, and my um my social studies teacher, Mr. Sandalow, he said, he said, Kevin, why are you here? Why are you not at the parade? I said, I'm a Yankees fan. He said, Oh, okay. Um, because everybody has skipped school and went to the parade. I says, nah, I'm a Yankee fan. I says, I'm here. And 10 years later, I'm down there in the Canyon of Heroes celebrating my Yankees as they won their first first World Series in almost like a decade or so. I want to say, yeah, over a decade, actually. Yeah, almost 20 years. It was 18 years when the last time the Yankees had won the World Series back in 96 to 78. So yeah, yeah, shout out to Mr. Sandalo.

SPEAKER_01 30:25

I well, I actually rooted for as I even though I'm a Yankee hater, I actually at that point in 96 after the Yankees had stunk for a while, I actually rooted for them. There was just something about the first of all, you had my two 86 Mets on it in strawberry and Gooden. Right. Gooden got his only no-hitter on you on your Yankees that year. And um Yeah, I actually I I rooted for them. I liked, even though Donnie Baseball didn't make it, right? He he he was out the year before with that play at the plate with Seattle, right? It was the last of his games.

SPEAKER_00 31:01

95.

SPEAKER_01 31:02

Yep. Uh I I rooted for them in '96. But then, like all uh dynasties I hate that aren't mine, I couldn't take them by the time they beat my Mets in two 2000.

SPEAKER_00 31:13

Yes. Yep and down the World Series. Yep.

SPEAKER_01 31:17

When when it's funny because when you're a Met fan and Yankee hater, you're a Red Sox stepbrother because you root for anybody that could beat the Yankees at that point. So I think my greatest sports moment after 86, the Mets winning, is 2003 with the Red Sox coming back from 3-0 against the Yankees. That sucked, bro. Yes, that sucked. Hey, so little.

SPEAKER_00 31:41

Don't take it away from me. 100%. You're right.

SPEAKER_01 31:47

Anyway, all right. Well, I want to thank Kevin for joining me today as a special guest host. Uh, it was fun. I enjoyed it. Love to have you back. Uh, why why don't you give our audience a little shout out, goodbye, and uh tell them what's coming up on your uh podcasts.

SPEAKER_00 32:01

Hey, make sure you check us out. Like I said, we're live every Monday and Thursday at 7 p.m. Eastern. Uh, YouTube, Twitch, uh millions. We're on all those platforms, man. Live. Just come check us out. We talk all sports, man. And um, hey, check us out, sportschaserspodcast.net. Excuse me, sports chases. I've changed it. Sportschases.net. That's what we'll be on the web. You can find all our uh content on there. Appreciate you, Joe, man. This has been great. And I uh if you have me back, I would love to be back. This was fun, man. Love it, love it. One Brooklyn guy to another Brooklyn guy, man.

SPEAKER_01 32:31

So there you go. We'll go down and get a corny out with hot joke and try not to get mugged. So all right. Hang on there. All right, audience, take care. We will see you soon.