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SPEAKER_00 0:04

This is the Ryan Lulf show. Deep down, a major factor in why he has to qualify all of his answers is the underlying fear of getting it wrong. Because based on the framework of his faith and his belief system, think about the consequences that his programming and conditioning tells him are coming his way if he doesn't get it right.

SPEAKER_01 0:34

That's true. It's a hundred percent true. If I don't think about why the why to everything, it does have an internal consequence, at least from my understanding of Are you on the spectrum? That's a great question.

SPEAKER_02 0:50

You don't know.

SPEAKER_01 0:51

I think I I think everyone has a joke about being on the spectrum. I think everyone's a little bit on the spectrum somewhere.

SPEAKER_00 0:57

I agree with that actually. What do you mean on the spectrum?

SPEAKER_01 0:59

Like everyone's got to bent towards something.

SPEAKER_02 1:02

Like this, like this goes against the Ryan Leff coaching, by the way. You and I having this conversation is completely everything that he's against, which is a label, which is quantifying.

SPEAKER_00 1:13

Well, first of all, I'm qualifying I'm not against anything. I'm passionate about self-expression, and so I can see that it could be interpreted that way. Yeah. But I'm not gonna go hate on anybody, or I'm not gonna go give someone a hard time. Well, I think I think your version is like, why are we labeling it? Like, why can't we just be okay with but I do understand in the in the system of planet Earth that you know you you do need some structure. I'm not interested in total chaos or total anarchy. Like, I get it. There has to be some labels and some structures and some abilities for all of us to kind of know, like, oh, that's a spoon and that's a man, and that's a you know, professional NFL player, football player. Like, I I I get it. So, like it's more of the sense of labels used for the structure of planet Earth make a lot of sense to me. Labels to the point that I that a human being thinks that's that's who they really are and their identity is where I feel like it causes human beings a lot of problems.

SPEAKER_01 2:11

In what way?

SPEAKER_00 2:13

Well, because like if I think I'm a sinner, if I absolutely think at the core that who I am is a sinner, and I have to say a certain prayer, believe a certain way, follow a certain set of rules, go about life a certain way to ensure that a separate God, a separate Jesus, a separate deity, then rescues and saves me from myself, that means I am living in a subconscious, psychological place that says I'm a sinner. Well, what does sinner mean? One definition that I've heard and that I've read is that sinner means missing the mark. Now, there may be other people that would say there's other definitions, right? So imagine learning science, imagine learning about the physiologically, the physiological aspects of how humanity works and how we operate as human beings. What if you discovered a real truth of the universe that everything I do and the way I behave and how I go about my life and what I manifest and what I attract is always going to prove that which I believe is true of me to always come about? Because there's an activating system in our brain. If you go by a black Honda Accord tomorrow, Brian and Chaz, what are you going to start noticing on the road everywhere you drive?

SPEAKER_02 3:54

A black Honda Accord.

SPEAKER_00 3:55

Now, is that because everybody went and bought one the same day at the same dealership at the same moment that you did? Or were those other black Honda Accords always there and you just weren't noticing them? So what if people who truly, absolutely believe this is just one example, that they're a sinner, which could mean that they're missing the mark. What if then they're constantly feeling like at a deep core level that I'm missing the mark? I miss the mark with my health. I miss the mark with my career, I miss the mark on when I was supposed to get married, I missed the mark on how soon I finished my college degree. I'm missing the mark with my parents. I'm missing the mark, missing the mark, missing the mark, missing the mark.

SPEAKER_01 4:36

I have to say something here about that. When you when you go, I'm constantly missing the mark, you're putting a cycle of shame on yourself. And I think that's what I understand that you've gotten at is like if you feel like you're labeling yourself as a sinner, you're putting shame on yourself. And that's contrary to what I understand from the gospel to be, which is not shame, but rather conviction, which should reinforce change, right? I go back to Romans 3.23, which says, All have sinned and fall short of the glory of God. Now, if you believe that to your core, you're going to say, Oh my gosh, I have missed the mark, but it should never stop there. And I think that's the difference between I think a uh spiritually mature person and someone who has no idea what to think of themselves.

SPEAKER_00 5:21

What mark are you aiming for? How would you know if you've missed it? What what's the mark?

SPEAKER_01 5:26

Holiness.

SPEAKER_00 5:27

What's holiness?

SPEAKER_01 5:28

Becoming more and more not necessarily, because I don't want to phrase this in a way that sounds contradictory of the talk. Well, I ha I have to because we have listeners that are Christian here. This is this is important. We're called to be image bearers of God. We're not called to be God for from a Christian perspective. Christians are not called to be God, they can never be God. Jesus does say you'll do greater works than what he did. But that's not to make yourself God. And that was one of the biggest things. That was the I think that was the one of the very first things, if I'm remembering the gospel, the Old Testament correctly, was the first thing Adam and Eve ever did. Eve tempted Adam to eat of the forbidden fruit, had all knowledge. And the serpent, which we know is the enemy of Satan, had tempted her to say, if you eat of this, you will know everything like God. And that is what we believe as Christians was the first fall. Right? When she ate the fruit, she all of a sudden knew everything about God and about the world and herself, and like literally to the point she knew everything and knew that she was naked, and then gave it to Adam. And they both realized that and hid from God.

SPEAKER_02 6:53

It was all downhill from there.

SPEAKER_01 6:54

Right. So I th I I think I'm getting at a story that everyone knows here.

SPEAKER_00 6:58

Yeah, see, I think that's such an egotistical and arrogant thing to say that everyone knows. There's nine fucking billion people on the planet. They're not all Christians, they've not all read the Bible. Half the fucking people on the planet don't even know what the hell you're talking about. Most of the Christians that even go to church don't read their Bible, probably have never even heard of that verse. Like we make so many assumptions, it's disgusting. We live in our own little world and then we project it out and assume that everybody else is in the same little world that we don't even realize we live in. Go to other countries, go to eastern places where Christianity was never taught. None of that even exists. Nobody knows any of those verses. They've never even heard of a Bible. They don't know what Romans 8:17 is or whatever verse you is that you quoted. They don't understand. They've never heard the story of Mary. They don't know who Joseph is. Jesus means nothing to them. It's no different than living in the West and having no clue about Hinduism or Muslims or Buddhism or any other type of religious idea or spirituality or faith or even new age. Like there's plenty of places you can go in the world, and New Age wouldn't even, they wouldn't even know what the hell you're talking about. It wouldn't even mean anything to them. So I think it's completely and utterly silly and ridiculous of how little minded so many of us are. This is one of the biggest reasons why I'm moving to Ecuador, is because I really feel like I want to expose my kids to as much of the entire world and the entire universe and the entire globe and every point of view, every spiritual story, every ideology, everything out there that exists, because that's how you potentially set up people to not be narrow-minded, to not be bigots, to not be racist, to not think that they've got the market cornered on what it means to be human, or the market cornered on who is God and what is right and what is wrong. Like in Ecuador, a guy can be flying down the road on a motorcycle with a baby attached to his chest, and that community over there reveres him. He is looked on as a wonderful father, as a great dad, as someone that is doing everything within their power and the means of what they have access to financially and is running errands, making sure he's a good dad, taking care of his kids, providing for his wife. And yet, if we looked outside here in America and saw a guy on a motorcycle with a baby on his chest, we're calling fucking the police and DHS.

SPEAKER_02 9:44

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 9:45

So that example alone is in my mind such a beautiful analogy of how we all create our own truth. We create our own world mostly by what we were born into, mostly what our parents told us was the truth, mostly what we were programmed and exposed to as kids. And then we walk around living as if everybody else is in that same world. It's the fucking matrix.

SPEAKER_02 10:14

Bro, I've got I've got a living story to tell you about this. I grew up that way. I grew up thinking Christianity was the only way. I grew up thinking the type of denomination within Christianity was the only way to get into heaven. And it wasn't until I was 50 years old that I fly to Dohan, Doha, and with my daughter and her best friend friend on my way to Sydney, Australia. My girls are in American girl attire. They're showing some skin. I'm completely clueless to where I'm landing on the layover. I'm completely clueless to their mindsets and their traditions. I have no idea I'm landing in a completely different world. And we step off that plane, and I quickly realized that we were in uncharted territory from my point of view, and we were not safe. It was to the point that I said, we were all starving. We've been on an airplane for 14 and a half hours. And I said, We're gonna go to the gate. We're gonna face looking out at the tarmac, and I'm gonna get some water, I'm gonna get some food, and we're not leaving that secured gate. Period. That's how naive I was, and I was 50 years old, and I put me and my family in a very dangerous, disrespectful situation because I'm too stupid and narrow-minded to realize that there's a whole nother world who has a whole different philosophy and mindset.

SPEAKER_00 11:52

This is why, on some level, I actually would almost prefer to live with whatever spiritual point of view that I have and keep that just private. Because if I meet Chaz or I meet you, Brian, or I meet any other human, what's it to me? Why is it even any of my business to even inquire unless I'm just simply curious and I do desire to have real connection? But if all it's gonna do is lead to right and wrong, judgment, exclusion, fear, insecurity, shame, guilt, all of that, I have no interest. Yeah, I simply want to know are you a fellow human that I would like to do life with, that I'd want to interact with? Is there a sense of trustworthiness? Are you someone that has some similar dreams, goals, aspirations, ideas, right? And even if there's not, I don't have any ill will towards any other human. I don't have wish any hate or I want nothing but success and vitality and wonderful things for all humans, right? Now, if you show me that you're not someone I really want to do life with and I need to have a boundary, then I'll just simply put that in place. But I don't need to walk away with any type of hate or ill will or judgment. And that's the difference in when I say I am God. Again, I I've said this on many episodes, and I'll continue to reinforce this. I am God because I think of God as the fabric and essence and energy and consciousness and awareness and the absolute non-physical power, life force that I believe permeates. Is that the right word? How do you say that? Per perviates, permeates, permeates through all things, all living things, animals, trees, houses, human beings, all of us. Like, I am not a wave of the ocean that is separate. I am the ocean itself expressed through a wave. So if you do think of God as something separate, fine. But it's gonna be difficult then for those people who believe that way to hear the idea that we are fully empowered. We get to decide if we're going to be victims of life, or what we're gonna choose is our perspective, our attitude, how we're gonna respond, how we're going to navigate all this unknown, if you will, right? And so it's it's very disempowering, it was for me anyway, in my experience, to think that I was separate from life itself, that I was separate from the fabric, that I was separate from the whole, that I had to try to strive or earn, or I had to believe and then think that somehow some guy that supposedly died on a cross a few thousand years ago that I can't touch, see, feel, hear, meet, nothing, talk to, somehow then closes that gap. But yet for 30 years, I was so worried that I didn't do a good enough job of closing that gap when I said the prayer last week that I have to go back this week again and do it again. And so I live in a perpetual state of I'm not good enough, I'm not sure enough, I'm stressed, anxiety, and it shows up with addictions to food, addictions to porn, addictions to depression, anxiety, all kinds of things, right? Right. Yeah. And the thing is, is that no one like if you want to overeat, if you want to have, you know, a bunch of excess weight on your body, like you didn't touch your heart. You're not touching your soul. You're just probably negatively impacting the things that you're able to do. If you're obese, you are more limited on the different activities that you can engage in, right? Like I just saw this incredible interview with Jelly Roll, who is a, you know, incredible country singer, very well known. He's lost like 300 pounds. He got super vulnerable and talked about how basically he had zero sex life with his wife because like you're pretty limited when you're fucking five, six hundred pounds. What do you have to do with that? Do you even see it? He couldn't even get hard. I imagine. He had no testosterone. His body was completely out of whack, right? I don't think, according to like, I don't think that if if being obese is a prerequisite on whether or not you're escaping hell and going to heaven, most of the Christians I know, they're fucked. Yeah. Because they they will make fun of and mock and judge people on all the shit that they've determined doesn't make the list. But I can tell you right now, gluttony passes the test every time.

SPEAKER_01 16:56

Is it gluttony or gluttony?

SPEAKER_00 16:58

Gluttony.

SPEAKER_02 16:59

Gluttony. So this podcast has been super interested, uh, interesting for me, and I've been excited to do it because I really want to dive into the methodologies of how Ryan Lef put together your coaching, the content. Like, I know I know we have a story, and you know, even in some of the previous podcasts, we get a little bit of the story and and and the life experience, and I'm sure we'll get into more detail in later podcasts, but but I really want to devote on this podcast. Like, I really want to figure out the methodologies, the systems that are in place, how you're gonna take somebody from here to here through the dynamic intentional content in which you put together.

SPEAKER_00 17:43

Yeah, I think a lot of it came from just reflecting and thinking back like of my own life experience. And so, you know, the method that I use first and foremost is what would it look like to go from living a life and an o and from an operating system of constant pressure? And when I say that, maybe not everybody is conscious around the pressure that they live from or live under. Maybe it's actually going on more at like a subconscious level. But what would it look like to go through a process, to go through the method and essentially first reveal that there is pressure there, second, be able to go through and release that pressure, and then third, be able to rebuild a whole new life through empowerment. So, what if you could go from pressure to power? I think first and foremost, phase one of my 12-week coaching container is we've got to first be able to help someone identify and reveal where that pressure comes from. And in my particular case, that pressure came uh number one from the home environment that I was raised in. And, you know, God bless her, I I love my mother so much, but my mom would be the first to tell you she just didn't know how to regulate her emotions. There were just things when she was a mother to me and my brother that she had just not been able to process or had been given the tools to be able to help her work through some things that happened to her when she was a child, and I have total compassion for that. But I was raised in an environment where as a kid, um I think the term is parentified. It's basically where you start to feel as a kid that you've got to somehow keep the dynamic in the home and the emotional situation a certain way because I didn't want my mom to get mad. She was chronically unhappy. And one of the things I heard over and over and over again is if my dad would just make more money, then she'd be happy. What I translate that to now. You heard that a lot as a child? I did. Man. And I think a lot of times as children, we're really great observers. We're not very good at interpreters. We're not very good interpreters. We don't interpret the situation well. We just, it just gets stuck inside of us. And I think now, as I've, you know, at 45 years of age, I'd say what my mom was essentially doing was the pressure from her programming and her conditioning that she had not had a method or process to deal with led her to continue to believe that all of her power was outside of her, that she had to constantly manipulate and change her circumstances or her financial situation, or how clean her house was, or whether or not her kids got good grades in school, or what her neighbor thought of her, or how her hair looked, whatever it may be, at the end of the day, she had not been able to awaken and realize how much power she really possessed that was inside of her.

SPEAKER_01 20:59

Hey, Ryan, I got a question for you.

SPEAKER_00 21:01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 21:03

You said something that I feel like would cause that barrier to go down for someone like me.

SPEAKER_02 21:09

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 21:10

Three words, ready? God bless her. What did you mean by that?

SPEAKER_00 21:17

I just mean I have compassion. I have empathy. I've I've got understanding that all of us have programming and conditioning that impacted us as children when our nervous system was being developed, when our subconscious was being developed, when the patterns of how we behave as adults was being developed. And so that wasn't her fault, it's not your fault, it's not my fault, it's none of our fault. But at some point, we can become responsible for identifying and seeing it for what it is. That's the reveal process. That's phase one. Like, oh wow, okay. My mom got sent off to boarding school at age 13. That probably had quite a bit of a. Of an impact on how she was behaving at 25 when she had me.

SPEAKER_01 22:03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 22:04

So I say God bless her, like in the sense of the impact that it had on me is real and is true, but I am not blaming her.

SPEAKER_01 22:18

But you said it like God is a separate person, even though this whole time you've been saying is he's not.

SPEAKER_00 22:26

Well, I'll just rephrase it. I bless her. Because me and God are the same.

SPEAKER_01 22:32

Okay. So that's that's what I wanted to get to. It's like, what do you mean by that? Are you saying God is a separate third, or are you getting at like No, I do not see it that way at all.

SPEAKER_00 22:40

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 22:41

Shit, Chaz, can we just get to the methodologies for the people? Yeah, I'm just here.

SPEAKER_01 22:45

No, that's great. That's great.

SPEAKER_00 22:47

Yeah, I don't see it that way at all. Yeah. Yeah, but I mean, that doesn't mean I'm right. But I know for me, in my personal experience, going from believing in a God that was separate from me to seeing myself as God, the fabric, the life force, the essence, the totality of the whole. I I can't even put it into words. It's absolutely ineffable.

SPEAKER_01 23:11

What caused you to feel so calm about it?

SPEAKER_00 23:16

Well, because um I didn't read that in a book, I didn't hear it at a sermon, I didn't have somebody else telling me what to believe. I was essentially on my deathbed battling stage four cancer, and all I had was me, myself, and my thoughts mainly in a bed for about two years straight.

SPEAKER_02 23:40

And I'm sure there's a lot of clarity that comes in those that time. A lot.

SPEAKER_00 23:45

Yeah. And um I remembered when my when my mom's mom passed away at 87 years old, and she admitted on her deathbed that she was still afraid to die. Fifty, sixty, seventy years of being a Christian, and it still wasn't enough to take away her fear. She wasn't sure if she had believed right, if she had done enough, if she was good enough, and she didn't know where she was gonna go. That is owned that she was still terrified on her deathbed.

SPEAKER_02 24:19

After 50 to 60 years of buying into the juice, you're still laying there getting ready to meet your maker in whatever form that that that might be in your interpretation, and you're not sure that you did enough. That can be a good life.

SPEAKER_00 24:33

Well, because beliefs are nothing more than just thoughts repeated in our minds.

SPEAKER_01 24:37

But what if the belief is true? And that's what I think most Christians are getting at. Uh that's what I'm getting at, at least, in this show, is like as a Christian, that is the central belief that you are not good enough. That's the reality. And I I think it's funny.

SPEAKER_00 24:55

And it was uh it was a fucking shitty way to live. I did it for 35 fucking years ago.

SPEAKER_01 24:59

Well, you know what makes it so bad is when you put it on yourself and you don't have anywhere else to put it to.

SPEAKER_00 25:05

Well, last time I checked, I mean, nobody's going to the bathroom for me. No one's feeding me for me. It is me. Like, I'm I it like I don't understand why in so many of the religious teachings that they are almost in total denial of self. Like they just like where's the accountability then? So if there is no self and if it's not on you, then how do you ever feel good about anything you accomplish?

SPEAKER_01 25:38

Well, I guess the accountability is on you as a Christian because you're having to confess to Almighty God your sins, right? So it is in a way, Christians do which sins are we confessing?

SPEAKER_00 25:49

Is it your version? Is it the truth? Is it is it the Baptists? Is it the Nazarene? Is it the Catholics? Is it the and you know, then in the Baptists, is it free will Baptists, is it holy Baptists, and the Bible? And what part of the world are you in? That matters. I mean, like, to me, like it just all gets so silly in about eight seconds.

SPEAKER_02 26:07

So when you were let me let me digress a little bit here, uh, because I do want you to get through the methodologies, uh, and all of them in in this podcast, but I I do want to hit on on something that you said as you're laying there, you say almost two years on your deathbed. Like, how dark or how light were those moments? And I'm sure you had both, but what, like, what does go through your mind?

SPEAKER_00 26:30

Like, how well initially it's just all the thoughts that have been programmed into you, but at some point you go beyond the noise. And at some point I had this awareness that like they're just thoughts, and then I started having the awareness of like, I didn't have those thoughts when I was first born. So all of those thoughts have come through other human opinions. Well, that in and of itself told me that there's probably not a whole lot of truth in anything that I believed because it wasn't like I was out in nature and just the essence of God and the essence of the totality of whatever that non-physical entity is that's created this whole thing. It wasn't like I just experienced that and then I drew my own conclusions. So the longer I was sick and the longer that I just basically was having all of this quiet time to myself, the more I realized they were just thoughts. They weren't truth, they were just human opinion. And where did those humans get their opinions from? They're just regurgitating what they heard from somebody else.

SPEAKER_02 27:43

I'm sure most people have thought what life would be like and how much despair we probably feel if we know we're going to die. Was that not the case for you? Did you not, did you not just lay there in complete despair?

SPEAKER_00 27:58

I mean, I did at first, and then I started realizing like, well, I've never even asked myself, what do I even think death is? And I realized like the only thing that could come up was what other people told me it was. Well, why was I just accepting and believing anything that another human told me? They're just human just like me. So then I started just allowing myself to see what might come up outside of my programmed thoughts. And I'm like, I don't really think you ever die. And by the way, I'm pretty sure in the Bible, it's like uh I think it's 365 times that it says to fear not. Why do so many Christians live with so much fear? Yeah, nobody wants to die. Everybody says they want to go to heaven, nobody wants to die. Yeah, that's interesting, isn't it? Because deep down, yeah, they don't really fucking know what's gonna happen after they leave their body. They don't. Nobody does. I don't. No's anybody else. Boy, and these are conversations that are just comfortable for a lot of people. Listen, listen, people say this to me all the time. Well, at least if I believe and I'm wrong, then I didn't miss out on anything. Right. Bullshit you did. You lived an entire life limiting your human experience and the potentiality of all kinds of things because you were constantly afraid that you could fuck it up, you could get it wrong, or that somehow you would be excluded.

SPEAKER_01 29:29

You know what's funny about that? I found more freedom in that. I have not felt limited. Exactly what you just said. Because I know and I feel so strongly, and I believe in my heart that's what's true. I never think, oh well, I could have, oh, sh coulda, shoulda done. What whatever. Coulda shoulda woulda. I have to go back and say because of the way I've been raised, not just because of the way I've been raised, but because what I believe I think is so true. I have no other way but to live except out of gratitude.

SPEAKER_02 30:09

We're not talking about living. We're talking about deathbed. We're talking disp desperation, we're talking about last seconds, last minutes, last days of life.

SPEAKER_01 30:18

But there is something about regret and regretting the way you went about your life. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 30:26

You know what I mean? The only people that are worried about having regret are the ones that actually think there was a right way to do it. Well, what if how can I have how can I have any regret when I'm clear that there's absolutely no right way to do it? You can't fuck this thing up at all, period. You can't. And if there is a right way, how would you ever figure it out? Because nobody can even agree on what that right way is.

SPEAKER_01 30:50

Well, I I don't know about that. And that that's the thing. I say I don't know, not because I'm skeptical, but because from what I've seen, all historical evidence does point back in some capacity to Jesus being a real person, a real prophet, a real Messiah.

SPEAKER_00 31:11

Okay, but what does that have to do with being able to say that you know that there's an exact right way to live your life?

SPEAKER_01 31:17

If Jesus says he's gonna be able to do that.

SPEAKER_02 31:19

But Chad, can I stop you? I mean, you're you're talking to somebody who was literally on his deathbed for two years. That's the only quantifiable, real life, knowledgeable experience you have in comparison to a theory or a story that's been told that you've told yourself that you have to buy into and you have to believe at 100% at all costs, no matter what, which is fine. And I'm totally comfortable and good with that. But I think you're short-sighted to discount somebody who's telling you, hey, I lived on that deathbed, I did two years of real time. I'm telling you, I was able to clear my mind, I was able to think with clarity, I was able to absorb the realness of the moment, and it just wasn't what I was told for 30 to 32 years. Why do you, as Christian-like people, have such a problem with real life experience like that and refuting it based on a theory or a story that isn't necessarily real life to some of us?

SPEAKER_00 32:18

Correct. Like one of my biggest pet peeves is when people say Jesus loves you. I'm like, oh, I guess how would I know? I've never fucking met him. Do you not love me? Why is it so hard for people to say I love you? Like, can you imagine if you looked at your fiance and every time you felt love for her, you looked at her and said, Jesus loves you, sweetheart. Jesus loves you, sexy.

unknown 32:43

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 32:44

I think tone and context matters in that.

SPEAKER_00 32:46

Tell me how that relationship's gonna work out.

SPEAKER_01 32:48

It's pride. At that point, you're when you say that I the way you just said it, that's pride. That's that that's what we know to be a sin. That's what most people know to be a sin.

SPEAKER_00 32:58

So now you're the judge.

SPEAKER_01 32:59

No, far from it.

SPEAKER_00 33:01

Well, but you just told me what you think I just did. How are you not being the judge?

SPEAKER_01 33:06

Well, I'm not a judge.

SPEAKER_00 33:08

You're definitely feeling you it makes me feel like you're being a judge. Well, like you're being judged. You absolutely said, Ryan, you are operating in pride. Yes. How would you know? Yeah, what is pride? What is pride? Who gets to determine that? This is the unconscious way in which most people who are religious don't even realize they come across constantly as. And so then when people listen to me, what they're really actually doing is projecting onto me the way in which they are that they're actually oblivious to.

SPEAKER_01 33:38

Can you expand on that a little bit? I'm I'm a little confused by what you just said.

SPEAKER_00 33:42

I am not that which you are that you call me to be. So every time you say I'm this or I'm acting this way or whatever, you're really just describing yourself and you don't realize it.

SPEAKER_01 33:56

How so?

SPEAKER_00 33:58

Because the lens and filter of your programming and of your belief system is built on being a judge, knowing what is right and wrong, thinking that your way is correct. And so you assume then that when I speak from a place of self-expression and freedom, that I'm also unconsciously saying I'm right and I'm judging, and this is the correct way, and you should say things like new age and vibrant uh vibration and frequency. And it's like, no, what you're actually describing is how you feel. You're the one that thinks it should be described as Holy Spirit, or you're the one that thinks you should be able to tell someone, hey, you're acting in pride. Really? Like, think about cuss words as an example. Like, who the fuck got to decide? Okay, can you imagine? Do you think there was like a fucking committee of the first humans that ever walked on the earth that sit around at a campfire, like once there was like eight or 10 of them, and they're like, all right, guys, we've got uh a little discussion here today at the meeting, and uh we've got poop, we've got shit, and we've got crap. And what I think we need to do is we need to understand that of most of the humans that are gonna come after us, they're not gonna be as smart as we are. They're gonna be pretty dumb. They're probably not gonna be able to figure out what's appropriate and what's inappropriate. And so what we need to do is we need to create a system. We're gonna rank these words on what is allowed, what's appropriate, and when you can say stuff, and we're gonna call the worst one cuss words, all right? And then that way we can tell all these other dumbass humans that come after us what they should or shouldn't do. I mean, think about the absurdity of the shit. Like when you really start breaking it down like this, like who the fuck are you to tell me that shit is worse than crap? Like, what if that committee had decided that the cuss word was actually poop? And we're like, uh, hey dude, uh, your kid said poop today at school and we had to write him up and we're gonna suspend him for three days because that's inappropriate. Like, who gets to determine this stuff? I would much rather this is what I teach my kids in this specific category. I go, listen, words are just fucking words. Okay? You know what I'm concerned about? What is going on in our hearts when we communicate?

SPEAKER_01 36:32

So didn't you say earlier, though, that words do have power?

SPEAKER_02 36:37

I don't think he's discounting that.

SPEAKER_01 36:40

But if words are words, I'm just trying to understand the logic here.

SPEAKER_02 36:44

I think I think he's just saying it's just a it's just a vibration. Like, what I mean, it's just a noise. Like, why why are we offended by a noise? Like, why why is there so much power? And if I if I said fuck in a different language, you wouldn't even know I was cussing. Correct. Right. Correct. So anyway, can we get cancer? Yeah, let's get back to the method. But no, this is great stuff. I love it. It is so good, but I it it I didn't want to spread out the podcast. Well, two or three different podcasts have been a good thing. This is perfect.

SPEAKER_00 37:13

This is perfect because phase one was reveal, which I think we I I was able to explain and cover, right? And honestly, I've kind of just basically showed what it's like to do phase two, which is release. So, so phase one, I release every time I tell these analogies, I tell these stories, I release all that fucking pressure that I felt that there was like I had to get it this this right way. I had to go about things in in a certain method, I had to live up to some expectations, I had to, you know, make sure I was in alignment with some mythical human that supposedly maybe lived a few thousand years ago and then hope that the story that I'm hearing today. I mean, think about the game of telephone. Like, how do any of us even know that the story that we believe to be true, let's say, about Jesus, is even the accurate story. I mean, if you've ever played the game of telephone, you realize that once it gets around to about 10 or 15 or 20 people, the conversation's different. The conversation's completely different.

SPEAKER_02 38:15

It's not even anywhere in the stratosphere of where that started. And any logical person has to have an understanding that the story has probably changed a million times by now.

SPEAKER_00 38:25

Without a doubt. And guess why it's changed? Because it needed to serve the narrative of those in power who aren't willing to face their fears and their insecurities, and they decided it was just easier to control and manipulate others to pacify themselves.

SPEAKER_01 38:42

What if for this case? Just hear me out.

SPEAKER_02 38:48

Hold on, Chaz. Before we dive in, I just want to close real quick with this. Is there is three methodologies to the madness of the Ryan Lef coaching system. The method. Method one is the reveal. Reveal. Method two is going to be release. Release. Chaz.

SPEAKER_01 39:11

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 39:13

What is your next fucking question?

SPEAKER_01 39:17

I'm I'm I was just going off of what Ryan said.

SPEAKER_02 39:20

But you were gonna say something nice to give me a second because I wanted to make sure I was bringing the point home that there's three methods that we're getting ready to introduce number two.

SPEAKER_01 39:28

Okay. But w what if everything that you just said, Ryan, what if there was something the truth to that? That it was passed down because there was a real Jesus. Like what what if? You know, and that's that's kind of where I operate out of it. It's like it's very interesting to hear you say that because it's like I in my heart, I don't feel bound to living, you know, I think to late life.

SPEAKER_02 39:59

Hold on. I think to Ryan's point, I think we have spent so much time and energy, and not just this conversation, but think about this. How many conversations do we have trying to imply and and really masquerade in trying to convince somebody of a of a system, of a faith, of a circumstance, of a situation, as opposed to just learning to be within the moment, being our true authentic selves in our true authentic moments, without the qualification and labels of all the religions, of all the sexualities, of all the politics, of all the intangibles that evolve around having relationships with different people? Like, what if we just released all that and just let it be and enjoy the moment or don't enjoy the moment for what it is? Absolutely. Am I right or wrong? You absolutely know.

SPEAKER_00 40:52

Am I becoming a student? It's really difficult for most people, in my opinion, from what I observe, to just enjoy life. Because everything going off in their mind, as soon as they hear I'm gay, or I'm a homosexual, or I'm a Muslim, or I'm an atheist, or I'm this, or I'm that divorced. I'm divorced, or um, we do we let our kids sleep with us, or we are I'm an entrepreneur, or I don't believe in jobs, or I mean, just the fucking list go on and on and on and on. It takes us into our programming and into our mind and out of a present connection with a fellow human being with a beating heart and blood that bleeds red just like us. We're all human before we were anything else. Correct. We were all human before we could ever be a Christian or a Muslim or an atheist. We were all human before we could ever be an American or a Hispanic or a Russian or a Ukrainian or a Ecuadorian. Eskimo. Right. Eskimo. Before we could cook up all of these reasons to have differences, we were one. We were the same. And at the end of the day, I can get fired up, I can be passionate, I can be misunderstood. And really, I just wanna I just want to live in a world where you're allowed to go about your spirituality and your beliefs in the way that you want to, and so am I. And you're allowed to go about your sexuality and your interest and your curiosity and your preferences any way you would like. And so am I. And I could just keep going on, category by category by category. If you want to spend all your time trying to build wealth and you want to own a bunch of different companies and businesses, and that's where you want to pour your time, beautiful. But don't come complaining to me that somehow the devil did something to you. Don't come complaining to me that God's not blessing you. No. Take your power back. If you want to live a different human experience than the one you're currently experiencing, it starts with you first having the guts to own that you actually are the one that can do something about it. As long as you are in denial and you fight for the limitations, you will never be able to move into phase three of my method, which is to rebuild a life different than the one you've currently decided doesn't work for you anymore.

SPEAKER_02 43:49

These are just some of the teachings of Ryan Louf, his coaching tactics. I I want to close by saying. I don't I haven't I've known you for a while, but I have not known you. And I love you. I love you too, man. And I love Chaz too. Chaz, I want to tell you that I don't necessarily believe in how you and how your faith is designed, but I respect and I love you.

SPEAKER_01 44:22

That's awesome. I I I value that so much and I I appreciate you guys and the openness in this conversation.

SPEAKER_00 44:28

These are not easier conversations. These are not easy conversations.

SPEAKER_02 44:31

And Lisa, I don't know that I could have told a man that I didn't have some kind of like blood relationship with.

SPEAKER_00 44:39

I don't know that I could have said that five years ago. I mean, Brian, almost every time I like meeting with men, brunch, coffee, my my closest friends, they would tell you, like, I love to do that. We I I tell them Thomas Blankenship, Jerry O'Lanson, John Barry, Doug Eccles, just just some of my close friends that I've recently like shared, you know, Victor Whitmore. I mean, if they were listening right now, that they would tell you, I tell them, I love you, Victor. I love you, Doug. I do. I I I am comfortable saying those words. And if I'm saying them, I I mean them. Yeah. And that does not come with conditions. None of those men agree with me on everything. Not even close. Right. Not even close.

SPEAKER_02 45:30

And I think that's where the disconnect is. I think that we all have to believe or we have this system in our mind that we all have to be aligned on every single issue in order to truly love somebody. And the fact of the matter is, Chaz, if you're on the highway in the next 30 or 45 minutes as I'm following you toward Broken Arrow and you're in trouble, or you get hit, or you have a flat tire, or heaven forbid you've been in a wreck and you need support, you can bet damn sure if I'm aware, I'm gonna be there. Absolutely.

SPEAKER_00 45:57

Until you don't need me. Me too. And here but here's the difference. What most people I don't think are able to either one see or unwilling to acknowledge because they have so much fear is the difference between where I'm at is I don't have any fear of getting it wrong. I don't believe in any type of eternal torment is coming my way for somehow not believing correctly or making too many mistakes or not holding my butt cheeks just perfectly when I said the prayer or whatever the fuck you want to make up. Most people who subscribe to a religion of any kind, they live with a low-level stress of believing that if they don't nail it and they don't get it right, number one, they're gonna eternally pay for it. But how about this? The people they love and care about who don't subscribe to that belief, they worry and fear that they're also going to. So no wonder they have a harder time allowing other people to live in total freedom because what's on the line for them isn't on the line for me and where I stand and what how I see things. That's a massive difference.

SPEAKER_02 47:16

Interesting.

SPEAKER_00 47:20

Interesting. I mean, am I at this point where you know what? If there is a hell in whatever realm or whatever we go to after we leave our bodies, okay. Like, you just can't scare me anymore. I'm not going to be moved by fear tactics.

SPEAKER_01 47:39

Well, why why doesn't that scare you? I think that's that's what's interesting to me, because you just said that. You know, you said if there is a hell, like there is a knowledge of it, you know.

SPEAKER_00 47:48

I can tell you right now, Chaz, if you went um into like uh the woods, for example, and you had no phone, no technology, and all you had access to was just plenty of food to survive for 10 days, 20 days, 30 days, you had no ability to have any contact with anybody else, I would be willing to bet a lot of money that there is 0% chance that you would come back out of that amount of time in silence, believing the same stories you believe now. You only believe them because you've never been silent enough to ever notice that they weren't yours and they were handed to you from someone else.

SPEAKER_02 48:32

And you're you're you're suggesting that your two years of silence, basically laying in bed, waiting to die, that's why that's why it was such a gift.

SPEAKER_00 48:40

Because I didn't have anywhere to go. And you're suggesting that if Chaz just anybody. Yeah, yeah, but I I would challenge anybody to go into a massive, extensive, extensive time of complete silence and disconnect from all connection, from all stimulation. Rewire. Absolutely. I don't, I, I, I just I mean, prove me wrong. I'd love it. I mean, you know, no, no way. You you're not going to walk out under the same belief system you walked in to that silence. It's not going to happen. It can't. That's why people have to stay busy and addicted and stimulated and always consuming because it's in the moments of silent that terrify people the most that they might actually have to examine the beliefs they cling to so tightly.

SPEAKER_02 49:30

Which is why there's such a big pool right now of people basically labeling life as the matrix, as we are a product of just staying busy, not asking questions, being in the system, and without being a conspiracy theorist, that that that that plays into the role of do your part and don't be quiet, don't sit in silence because we don't want you to figure everything out. Yeah. Yeah. Ryan Lulf, Chaz, Barlow, and this is the Ryan Lulf show.