Woman's Michigan Amateur Champion Macie Elzinga!

We welcome the current Woman's Michigan Amateur Champion Macie Elzinga to this weeks podcast. Macie plays college golf at Bowling Green University and is the current Woman's Michigan Amateur Champion. Her victory in the Am gave her an exemption into the U.S Amateur where she took full advantage making match play at Bandon Dunes. This spring Macie won her first collegiate event so we talk all things golf and get her thoughts on why she feels her game has gone to another level.

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SPEAKER_01 0:11

Hello, everyone, and welcome to the Not Salty Podcast presented by Great Lakes Gear. We're excited you're here with us this week. We have a special guest, Macy Elzinga. Macy is from the West Michigan area and plays college golf at Bowling Green University. Like Kayla Bond a few weeks ago, Macy had an amazing summer last year where not only did she win the Women's Michigan Amateur, but she then qualified for the U.S. Amateur and made it to match play. And we got to watch Macy uh perform when she was on the golf channel and route her on. So, like Caleb, an amazing summer last summer, and we're gonna sit down with Macy and talk all things golf and her golfing career. So thanks for being with us. We're excited to get going, not just uh with this interview, but the weather is starting to turn here in Michigan and the Great Lakes region. We're getting out on the golf course more and more. We hope you guys are as well. Uh so let's sit back and enjoy this episode with Macy Elzinger. We're excited to have Macy Elzinger with us today. G Money. We have Macy who had a hot, hot summer last year, and we're gonna dive into that. Um she won the women's Michigan amateur, which got her into the United States amateur, and not only made it to match play, um, but had a great run there in her match at match play, and we're gonna dive into all that in this episode. So, everybody, welcome, Macy Elsengard. Thanks for being with us, Macy.

SPEAKER_00 1:56

Yeah, thanks for having me, Mike. Appreciate it.

SPEAKER_01 1:58

Yep.

SPEAKER_03 1:59

G Money, get us going. Right on, Mike. Um, Macy, uh, we're gonna kind of kick you off the same way we kicked everybody else off so far. And um, tell us about your induction into Great Lakes Gear and now not salty golf. How did you and McGee cross paths? What kind of brought you to this spot where we are today?

SPEAKER_00 2:20

So I believe Brandon Roby actually connected the two of us. Um, I knew quite a few people that were with Great Lakes Gear, but I was actually the first girl to join. Um, so when I was joining Mike, I don't think you even had any women's apparel like available yet. You just kind of told me about it and I was all for it right away. Um, the Great Lakes Gear team became like family right away. There was a lot of support, and there's there's nothing quite like the support that our team gives each other. Like the second that I'm done with the tournament or anybody's done with the tournament and they perform well, the group chat's already blowing up, and it's great to be a part of it. So I'm definitely happy with my decision to join the team.

SPEAKER_01 3:02

Garrett, I have to interject that Macy is also uh was recruited out at the Quail Ridge Golf Club. Uh first naturally, you know, first uh time we play golf. Well, every time we've played golf has been at Quail Ridge Golf Club, and so you know, she's got quite a few rounds in out there, not only with with me and other great Great Lakes Gear team members, but with the Mark Hoogwin, Hoog.

SPEAKER_03 3:31

No kidding. She's got laps in with Hoog, huh? She does. Yep. Nice. Danny J, Tyler Velting, Otterman. I think she's met probably most of them.

SPEAKER_01 3:42

Nice.

SPEAKER_00 3:42

Yeah, rumor has it that some of them have taken some of my dad's money over the years, so really.

SPEAKER_01 3:49

So it is a uh small world, and uh, you know, put it out there that when Brandon Roby did uh introduce us, but when Brandon talked to me about Macy and she said Macy Elzinga, and I was like, Elzinga, Elzenga, like I know Elzinga's from Lowell, and I used to play against them in sports growing up, and so when I contacted Macy, I said, You wouldn't be a relation, you know, and I started listening, and she's like, Yeah, that's my dad. And I'm like, Oh my gosh, this is like not only do I feel super old right now, but you know, it's just a small world that I played sports against her father, and now she's on Team Great Lake Skear, so full circle moment, um, but uh, you know, a cool one in that regard. So Macy's been great. And uh so, Macy, why don't you uh um just tell us a little bit about how when did you start playing golf? How did you get into golf? When did you kind of realize you're a little bit better uh than most, you know, women your age at golf, and then which then made you want to make that kind of a career or go to college and play all of that?

SPEAKER_00 5:08

Yeah, um, I've pretty much been playing golf since the first day I could stand. My dad gave me a golf club. Um, I've been playing in tournaments since I think I was seven years old. Started in the West Michigan Junior Tour, the Meyer Callaway Tour, Drive Chip and Putt was a big one for me. And I really was just super competitive. So I wanted to be good right when I started. And especially jumping into tournaments at such a young age, it just really pushed me to kind of keep going. And I knew from probably the age of 10 to 12, somewhere in there, that I wanted to play in college and I wanted to pursue golf. I played other sports too, but I knew that golf was the one I wanted to go with from a really young age. So I just kind of kept pushing, and I don't think I really realized I was better than most until probably high school, but um yeah.

SPEAKER_01 6:04

Byproduct of Byron Center High School, correct?

SPEAKER_00 6:07

Yes, yep.

SPEAKER_01 6:09

But it you did qualify for the U.S. junior amateur, correct?

SPEAKER_00 6:13

Yeah, when I was going into my junior year of high school, so that was my recruiting summer, so that was big.

SPEAKER_01 6:19

Yeah, and where was that at and what was that experience like?

SPEAKER_00 6:22

That was at Old Stone, um, in Bowling Green, Kentucky, actually. Not bowling green, Ohio, bowling green, Kentucky. But um that was a really cool experience. That was the biggest tournament I had ever played in at the time. And honestly, I probably was not ready to be on that big of a stage, but I'm so thankful that I was in that situation because it kind of prepared me for competing against players like I did in the USM and the junior PGA and people I play against in college golf. So I did not play very well in that event, but it was awesome to be a part of that event, and it definitely prepared me a lot for what was to come.

SPEAKER_03 7:05

Gives you a heck of a taste for that kind of competitive environment, I imagine, especially at that age. How old how old would you have been, Macy?

SPEAKER_00 7:13

Um, I probably just got my driver's license, so I think I was 16.

SPEAKER_03 7:17

No kidding. That's incredible. That's an incredible accomplishment to get into a USGA event at that age.

SPEAKER_00 7:22

Yeah, I got in through the Michigan qualifier um with the junior PGA, and I actually played really, really well in the qualifier. I think it was at Bedford Valley, and I shot, I think it was seven under. Um so I played very well, and I don't even know if I've ever finished a tournament under par until that point. So I shot that score, and then all of a sudden thought, all right, I can go do something at the U.S. junior, but I got there and I was just starstruck and overwhelmed with everything going on. So I'm glad that I got that experience under my belt from a really young age. I think that helped me a lot moving forward.

SPEAKER_03 8:00

Sure. Great experience, no matter what. But I mean, when you were in that environment at that age and kind of figuring it all out at that point, what what did kind of take you back? What uh what caught you by surprise? Where did you feel like you were either prepared or maybe less than prepared than you would have liked? What was that kind of experience like for you?

SPEAKER_00 8:18

Yeah, I felt like as far as my golf game went, I felt like I was fine. But what I wasn't prepared for was kind of showing up and like just seeing people in the locker room or on the putting green, like, oh, I've seen a Netflix documentary on that girl, or oh, I know where this person's committed to go play in college, and I know what they're ranked on junior golf scoreboard, or like those sorts of things, and like they don't even know me. Like that whole side of things was a little bit like I'm kind of surrounded by people that I viewed as celebrities at the time, and so I kind of feel like the star-struckness of that event was something that caught me off guard, but I feel like my golf game was good enough to compete.

SPEAKER_03 8:58

Sure, and I imagine after that you you kind of get down there and rip the band-aid off, for lack of a better way of saying it. I imagine that every subsequent event that followed was probably a little easier on you.

SPEAKER_00 9:09

Yeah, for sure.

SPEAKER_03 9:11

Nice, that's awesome.

SPEAKER_01 9:12

Yeah, I I don't want to jump ahead in the interview, so uh remind me if I forget that, because it sounds like that experience at the U.S. Junior kind of helped you at the USAM. Um, but before we start talking about the USAM, you go to Byron Center High School, uh, you have a great high school career, and then it's what colleges were you looking at? Um, what did it come down to to make your final decision? Can you kind of talk about that for people listening? Like what the college recruiting experience is like when you're looking at Division I schools.

SPEAKER_00 9:49

Yeah. Um, so I talked to quite a few places. I believe I went on five or six total visits. I was looking at a lot of schools in the MAC, um, a lot of other mid-major schools, um, but ultimately decided Bowling Green. Um I fell in love with every single part of the school, the community, the golf program. I mean, it checked every single box that I had, but I mean, going through the process, everyone always told me like when you find the right place, like you'll just get that feeling. And not only did Bowling Green check off all the all those boxes that I had, but I definitely got the feeling of like, I can see myself being here, I can see myself helping this program and being a part of this program. And it really just gave me everything I was looking for. Um, our coaching staff's awesome. I love my team, our tournament schedule is really fun. We have all the resources we need here. It's it's a really cool place to be.

SPEAKER_01 10:45

Awesome. So you commit to bowling green. Uh you have a so soul, would you say? What would you say your freshman year was like? Because I know you had some really good times, but I also know you and I talked on the phone um or texted after a few rounds where you were kind of beat up and questioning yourself. And if you remember that one conversation, I was like, Macy, you gotta know you fight, like you gotta you don't quit, like you do everything you can and you fight for the opportunity. And so what was the adjustment like going from high school golf to college golf? Um can you just kind of talk about that a bit?

SPEAKER_00 11:28

Yeah, um, I feel like my freshman year was a bit of a learning curve, but I do feel like for the most part, I did perform well. There was quite a few times that I put myself in contention at a lot of golf tournaments and just kind of fell short on the third day. Um, but for the most part, I do feel like I played well. And as you know, we did have some conversations last year. There were quite a few times that I was kind of like beat to the ground a little bit, but I think for the most part, I played well. My team played really well. We made it to postseason for the first time in school history last year. We got second place at our conference championship, which was the best finish in our program history. We had a really, really good year as a team, and I made every single lineup, and up until the conference championship, every single one of my scores counted. So to be able to not only be a part of that team that was doing really well, but I was definitely somebody who was helping the team do that, and that is something that I take a lot of pride in, and I'm really happy about because that's exactly what I was looking for in whatever program I was walking into, and it's definitely really special to be a part of.

SPEAKER_01 12:40

Yeah, that's great. And so you have that experience, and then Garrett, we gotta bring up her towards summer last summer. Um you know, you and I have played golf together, you've been out to Quail Golf Park with us quite a bit. Um, so you know what we're like, and and you know our games, we know your game. I don't think it'd be going out on a limb and saying, You took your game to another level, you found another gear last summer. So where did that come from? How did it start? Was there something that triggered it? But just talk about your run of of you know that summer, winning the Michigan Am, then going on to the USAM. And I'm I know Garrett's probably got a lot of questions about you know that as well.

SPEAKER_00 13:34

Yeah, um, so at the Michigan Am, and like I said before, like it's never for me been a matter of like if the golf's there. Um, like my ability's always been there. It's always just kind of getting over that hump of like having confidence out there and knowing I can do that. Because especially for me, like I've been playing in tournaments from such a young age. Like, there's so many names on leaderboards that I'm like, this person is somebody that I looked up to as like, I really want to beat that person or whatever when I'm 12 years old. And so I feel like for the longest time, they've always seemed like these people that I'll never be able to beat or I'll never be able to hang with. And um at the Michigan Am this summer, that was really the first time that I feel like I walked into a golf tournament feeling like my game was at its best and I had the most confidence in myself than I've ever had. And I think I shot even both rounds of stroke play, which I believe put me at about like the nine seed. Um, I don't know that for a fact, but I think it was somewhere around there. Um, and I had a really tough route to the championship. I had to beat the defending champ, who's also a great Lake Skier member, Shannon Kennedy. Um, Kate Brody, who's also a great Lakes Gear member, had to play against Elise Fennel, Elena Bowser. I mean, I played just a bunch of players in match play that are really good players that have all beat me a countless number of times. And so I felt like it was just really important for me to just focus on myself, focus on what I knew I was capable of, and let the golf take care of itself. And then um after winning that tournament, I got exempt into the USAM, which was a little bit last minute, so that was also a really cool part of it.

SPEAKER_03 15:16

Garrett, have you ever played in a USGA event, G Money? I've never qualified for a USGA event. No, I've come close a few times, but never actually got the opportunity to participate.

SPEAKER_01 15:28

Yeah. So, Macy, tell us, you know, lower level golfers, what is it like to play in a USGA event because it's just first class from everything I hear.

SPEAKER_00 15:41

Yeah, it's it's unbelievable. I mean, you get there and you are treated like a pro. And um, I mean, everything from just the signage on the golf course to like the level of competition to the level of course that you're playing, and just the title of USGA event, like it, it has a lot of meaning to it, and it's it's awesome. I'm very fortunate to have played in two of them, and hopefully there's many more to come, but it's it's an unreal experience, and it's something I'm very proud that I've been a part of.

SPEAKER_03 16:15

Having that kind of like you just alluded to, kind of that last minute, obviously, from winning the state am to getting an opportunity to play in the US AM, uh women's am, did you feel like you had adequate time to prepare?

SPEAKER_00 16:29

Um, yeah, I would say yes, in the sense that I'm always like practicing for some sort of tournament. I mean, whether I'm practicing for the Michigan AM or I'm practicing for the US AM or a college event, like it's not like the work ever stops. And for me at least, I don't feel like my work necessarily changes depending on what tournament I'm preparing I'm preparing for. So, I mean, I felt equipped for it and I was coming off like winning the Michigan AM. So I was definitely feeling confident. And for me, usually that's the main thing that I need to go compete in a big tournament like that.

SPEAKER_03 17:08

Sure. McGee, I'm kind of picking up a common theme here with uh number of your Great Lakes gear athletes, and that is hard work. And obviously, we all know it takes an exorbitant amount of work to play this game at a high level, but whether it's been DeLong or Ari and now Macy just talking about the amount of work they put into this game. What does that work look like for you, Macy?

SPEAKER_00 17:32

Um, there's a lot that goes into it. I mean, I have my swing coach Brandon Roby, who's the one that connected Mike and I. Um, him and I work all the time together. I mean, the amount of times I just send him videos, like, hey, can you look at this? Like, we are talking about my golf game at least three to four times a week, it feels like. Um, I also have my mental coach, Ian Highfield, who works with Brandon as well and a lot of his players. Um, I have a TPI trainer, um, Haley Hall. She also works out of Roby's facility. Um, and then so that's kind of the pieces that I have behind the scenes, in addition to my college coach here at BG. Um, that's kind of all of the pieces that I have working together like to help me move forward and get better and that whole sort of a thing. But then I all I also have my individual work that I do between my own workouts, my own range sessions. I mean, every single day I'm either at at college at least, I'm either on the range, putting green, chipping green, all those things, or else I'm playing, doing on coursework. I mean, every single day there's just a new task at hand. And I I've done pretty much about anything that I can in terms of like the work that I've put in to get myself to this level.

SPEAKER_03 18:53

That's an incredible amount of dedication. And McGee, I don't know about you, man, but I feel like this is impactful for the listeners, young and old, as Macy also mentioned being her dad chasing the the senior tour status. Um having somebody, you're the first person on the podcast that's talked about having a physical trainer and a mental coach alongside the swing coach and kind of incorporating those into your team. How long have you been working with each of those individuals?

SPEAKER_00 19:19

Um, so my strength coach, my TPI trainer, um, her and I have been working together since I believe my junior year of high school. Um, and her and I always, whenever whenever I'm home for breaks from school or in the summers or anything like that, her and I usually get together once or twice a week and get to work. And then uh my mental coach, Ian, uh, I haven't really been working. I first went to him. I think I was a sophomore in high school, maybe a freshman. Um, but I kind of took what he gave and kind of through Brandon worked with him. I wasn't really working with him directly for a while, but him and Brandon talked about a lot of things together. Um, that helped me. And I just recently started working directly with him again. So that's been good.

SPEAKER_03 20:12

So and for the listeners that don't kind of touch on that kind of stuff and don't consider maybe the psychological side of this game is something that they maybe work on like you do. Um, give us kind of the 30,000-foot view of what that looks like. What what do you work on when you're working with a guy like Ian?

SPEAKER_00 20:30

Yeah, so most people think that mental coaches just talk about like what's controllable and what's not, kind of like that whole sort of a thing. Like just stay positive, like that, that side of mental coaching. And um, Ian kind of dives more into like pre-shot routine type things of how to best prepare yourself to hit the shot, um, what to say to yourself after you hit a shot and being able to accept the outcome. And he more so talks about that side of things and different tools that you can use to get you more kind of level-headed on the golf course um to make smart decisions and how to actually go about selecting the shot that you're trying to hit and that side of things um versus I think there's a little bit of a misconception of what mental coaches and the game of golf actually do.

SPEAKER_03 21:22

I would agree with that, but hugely advantageous.

SPEAKER_00 21:26

Yes.

SPEAKER_01 21:28

I have to ask, since we're talking about the mental game of golf, uh, Macy, you've played with us out of quail. How would you rate our mental game?

SPEAKER_00 21:41

Well, Mike, I think you're good on all aspects except chipping. I think you've got a little mental block on chipping, that's for sure.

SPEAKER_01 21:48

If you hit 18 greens, you don't have to chip.

SPEAKER_00 21:52

That is true. That is true.

SPEAKER_03 21:55

I love that you're getting that plug in in like every episode.

SPEAKER_01 22:00

The shirts will be coming this summer, everybody. So be looking out for them where you can uh if you hit 18 greens, you don't have to chip. What would your mental coach say about club throwing, club breaking, and things of that nature?

SPEAKER_00 22:18

Um, well, he probably would not be a huge fan of it. Um, I would say the biggest person that would not be a fan of that is my coaching at school. That's like an absolute no. Uh, especially when we're in tournaments. I mean, we're wearing the school logo, we've got the bags on our back, we can't be throwing clubs and representing the school badly. So I feel like pretty much not just my mental coach, but every single person that I have in my corner for my golf game, they all kind of are big nose on that.

SPEAKER_01 22:53

Well, uh, I think we are giving an open invite for you and your coach at BG since Great Lakes Gear is kind of working with BG now, in a sense, or just did. Uh, open invite that you and your coach come to Quail Ridge and play in our with our with the group, and uh then we can see what she thinks about us uh after the meal.

SPEAKER_00 23:15

Yeah, well, we will probably take you up on that offer. I know I will.

SPEAKER_01 23:19

Yep, absolutely.

SPEAKER_03 23:23

Feels like a vulnerable spot to put yourself, McGee. Oh you're a brave man.

SPEAKER_01 23:30

There's uh yeah, all right, we we move on. So you you go to the USAM. Not only do you play well at the USAM, you make it to match play at the USAM because uh I am flipping on the golf channel and watching Macy Elsinga in her match uh at the USAM. Real quick, the USAM was where at Macy?

SPEAKER_00 23:56

Bandon Dunes in Oregon.

SPEAKER_01 23:58

So not a bad spot. Definitely not, not a bad spot, right? So uh talk quick about Bandon Dunes, you know, that experience briefly, but then if you could just talk about what gave you the confidence when at the USAM because you talked about the US Junior AM, how you walked in a locker room and were starstruck, and that kind of overwhelmed you in a bit. So, what had changed to where you walked into the locker room at the USAM with even bigger stars that you see on TV regularly, and you go out and make it to match play, and there we're watching you on the golf channel.

SPEAKER_00 24:43

Yeah. Um, so I feel like the biggest thing, like you said, I was obviously starstruck at the Girls Junior. Um, but not only did I play in the Girls Junior, I also played in the junior PGA in Hot Springs, Arkansas the following summer. So I had put myself in that situation to be competing against a high-level field like that twice already. So I feel like I knew what I was kind of walking into. And I actually played well at the junior PGA. So I had the experience of competing against those people. I had experience playing well against that field. Um, and even in college events, like we play a handful of those people as well. And so I feel like for me, I was a little bit more settled in and relaxed with the idea of the fact that I was playing against them. And when you really think about it, like probably about 80% of the field, I don't know if that's actually true, but somewhere around that, I would assume, are people that also had to qualify for the event just like I did. There's only a handful of people that are actually exempt into the US women's amateur. And so once you kind of put it in perspective of, okay, I won my state amateur that got me into this event, just like however many people in this field also did, like it kind of makes you feel like you're a little bit more even with the field. That makes sense.

SPEAKER_03 26:06

Yeah, kind of levels the playing field when you think about how you all punch the same ticket to to show up. That's good perspective.

unknown 26:13

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 26:14

I'm gonna take that perspective into the uh West Michigan amateur this year.

SPEAKER_03 26:20

Just make sure you sign up in time. That's uh only thing I'm gonna say to you right now, man. I know we haven't even told who the news yet. So I'm hoping we don't have to. Nice. You're gonna come back for the West Michigan Am, huh? Of course. Nice. We're a sponsor. Oh yeah. Come take another stab at the mines. Hopefully we get better weather.

SPEAKER_01 26:42

Yeah. The mines, my favorite place on earth. Great people run it though. We love the people at the mines. The golf course just eats my lunch every single time.

SPEAKER_03 26:52

It's a challenging golf course, no doubt.

SPEAKER_01 26:55

But listen, I've played in it three years in a row now, and I've made the cut, the top 30 cut, two out of the three years. So I'm hanging in there. But did you uh we're getting off base a little bit, Macy? But did you see, Garrett, that uh they changed the senior division? And I think they did because I asked about it. And since we're a sponsor, no, I can't. The senior division was always 55 and over.

SPEAKER_03 27:23

Yeah, I remember. Yep.

SPEAKER_01 27:25

And I said I was on the phone with Ladwig and Nate, and I'm like, man, I can't compete with these young kids anymore. Like, when are you gonna take that senior division down to 50?

SPEAKER_03 27:37

No way. Did they do it? They took it all away.

SPEAKER_01 27:41

So now I'm like in this spot where I have to because I still kind of want to play again with you guys. Sure. Like, but now I feel bad. Like, if I say, hey guys, thanks for lowering it to 50, but I'm still gonna play with the don't don't you don't you get to compete in both technically? No, you pick a division and because you play different T's. Oh, gotcha.

SPEAKER_03 28:08

Whoops.

SPEAKER_01 28:10

So now I'm in this spot, like yeah, uh, so I'm gonna call Ladwig tomorrow and have a conversation with him.

SPEAKER_03 28:18

But yeah, get to the bottom of that one.

SPEAKER_01 28:20

Right. So Macy, you make it to the match play, and uh your first round match was uh it was a great match. And if I remember correctly, you're down and you win the last two holes to take it to a playoff. And even the shots you hit in the playoff were not bad shots. Um, I it was just Bandon Dunes and the bounces, and I think you hit it over the green, if I recall. Um so what was that like? You know, first match now you know the TV cameras are on you, I'm sure. And you win the last two holes to get to a playoff, and what was that like?

SPEAKER_00 29:09

Yeah, um, so to actually get into match play, so I shot three over my first round, and then my second round, and that was right about the cut line. So I kind of thought, okay, if I shoot even, maybe a couple under, like I'm definitely set to make match play. And um I was three under in the second round. I had my coach here at BG, um, I had her on the bag, and so we're walking up 18, um, which was a or I guess it's hole nine, but it was my 18th hole. Um, it's a reachable par five, and I think I was like 240 yards out, something like that. And there really wasn't even anything up there, but I just laid up to a good number, and she's like, I think we should go for it. And I'm like, no, I'm just gonna lay up to a good number, and I just need to get par because I thought I was in, and she didn't tell me, but I was like on the cut line at the time. So I barely snuck into match play, and I believe I was the 58 seed, so I barely snuck in. And um I ended up playing one of the top players in Australia in match play, Jesse Roberts, and um her and I um I I didn't know anything about her. And going back to the whole starstruck thing, I didn't even want to look her up because I didn't want to know. And um, so when I showed up for match play the next day, I was down three through seven. I wasn't really playing that bad, but I was down three through seven. Um, and at that point I knew like I kind of had your voice in my ear a little bit, Mike, of just fight because I knew that it was all I could do. Um, and I ended up battling back. I was down two with two holes to go. And I went birdie birdie to make it to extra holes. Um, and she was an unbelievable punter. Like every punt inside 20 feet it felt like she was making. And so I kind of knew I had to birdie that first playoff hole, um, or else I was done. And hit a good T shot right in the middle of the fairway, hit a good second shot to about I think I was probably 15 feet away. I was just long in the pin. Um, and I had that punt that morning and missed it. So I read it a little bit different and also missed it the second time. Um, and she ended up making about a 15-footer also for Bertie. So I ended up losing, but I fought back hard and I was down early, so I was just happy to make it to extra holes. Not many people can say they made it to match play in a USGA event, so I was happy to not only be there but put up a good fight.

SPEAKER_01 31:48

Yeah, absolutely. So you're saying putting is important?

SPEAKER_00 31:53

Yeah, I think a little bit.

SPEAKER_01 31:55

Yeah, interesting. You should work on that a little bit. So uh what that experience of making it to the match play, what has that done for you in your golf career where you're at now? Because I don't want to be a spoiler, but you did win your first collegiate event this season. Um, do you think that's possible without having the summer you had last summer? Or do you think just what you accomplished with the Michigan AM and the US AM, did that just kind of give you confidence to where you your ceiling was raised a little bit and now your expectations a little higher and all that?

SPEAKER_00 32:43

Yeah, for sure. Um I would say kind of my entire golf career leading up to this last summer, I was always kind of the player that was in contention but never really won anything. And I feel like this last summer was kind of my breakthrough to like actually following through and winning. And that mindset shift and that awareness that I'm capable of winning was definitely huge. And it also, I I personally never look at leaderboards or anything like that when I'm playing. But for instance, being in match playing at the Michigan AM or match playing at the USAM, like you know where you're at at all times. And so it kind of taught me to be a little bit more comfortable knowing where I'm at. And so when I actually did win my first collegiate tournament this spring at Evelyn Christians event, I was tied for the lead going into the last round, and I knew that. So there was definitely a little bit of pressure that came with knowing that. Um, and then I actually asked my coach on my final hole, what do I need to do? Because I knew it was probably close. Um, and she was like, You have the lead by one. So I knew I needed to make a par. And I just had so much adrenaline. I it's dog leg left par four, and I just pumped my T-shot straight through the fairway. I probably hit it 270 yards. I don't think I've ever hit a driver over like 240 up until that point. Um, and then I had to punch out and get up and down from about 80 yards. So, I mean, just having the experience of knowing where I'm at and knowing what I need to do in order to get the job done and win um definitely set me up for success in terms of that collegiate win that I had this year.

SPEAKER_01 34:26

Sweet. So what's next for Macy Elzinger on the golf front then? I mean, what what's the goals now and the expectations?

SPEAKER_00 34:36

Yeah, well, this weekend um we're leaving for our conference championship. Um that we're hoping to obviously win and make it to regionals. Um postseason is definitely the goal for us again this year. We obviously made it for the first time in program history last year. So um if we're able to do that again this year, that'd be awesome. But we're crossing our fingers, hopefully, this year it's regionals we're making it too. Um for me individually, the goal's always to win. So um I'm hoping to get out there and hopefully win our conference individually. I know pretty much everyone in the field has the same exact goal, so it's just gonna be who sets them up, who set who sets themselves up for it. So um, yeah, and then from that point, I've got a super busy summer schedule playing in the Ohio Am, the Michigan Am. Um, hopefully I'll make it back to the USAM again this year. Uh, I'm playing in the North and South Amateur. I've got a lot going on this summer, so it really doesn't stop.

SPEAKER_01 35:40

That's awesome. Gee.

SPEAKER_03 35:43

Yeah, that's a heck of an heck of a lot of people coming up. That's awesome.

SPEAKER_01 35:48

Real quick, uh, before G asks uh something, where is the women's am at this year?

SPEAKER_00 35:54

The Michigan Women's Am? Yeah, it's at Oakland's home course.

SPEAKER_01 35:59

Okay, yeah. And because you won your Michigan Am at Eagle Eye, correct? Yes. Yep, who's uh we have a great relationship with, and the guys at Eagle Eye, let's give them a big shout out because they've been great supporters of Great Lakes Gear. Great, great guys, Luke and Jason and them. Um so yeah, I think the guys is at Eagle Eye this year.

SPEAKER_03 36:23

It is, that's correct.

SPEAKER_01 36:24

Yeah, okay. Well, pretty impressive, G. Now she's got a nice summer schedule lined up.

SPEAKER_03 36:33

It's beyond impressive, and you can hear just kind of the theme around everything that's come out of Macy's mouth from the experiences she's had is just how the confidence has continued to grow, continued to grow and continue to elevate, and that's what's helped kind of take her to the next level, um, which is again beyond impressive. But uh, Macy, as you're kind of heading into the the tail end of your collegiate season at the moment, uh obviously you've got your goals and you've got the great summer schedule. What's long-term goal for for you?

SPEAKER_00 37:02

Um, so I actually want to be a collegiate golf coach. So um playing for me is after college, hopefully I'll find a job right away and kind of work in the field for a while. I think the route I'm gonna go is probably just be an assistant for quite some time. Um, I don't really want to make the step to be a head coach until I really feel like I'm ready for that, because it there's a lot that comes along with that. So um yeah, that's my long-term goal. I've always said like if I think I'm good enough when I graduate, I might want to go pro. But after being in college golf for a couple years, like I know that being a coach is what I want to do. So that's the route I'm gonna go with.

SPEAKER_03 37:45

That's a really cool passion. It when you take on this, when you start to take on that that chapter of your life, any particular place you want to coach?

SPEAKER_00 37:54

Oof. Um that's a tough question because not really. Like, I feel like I grew up my whole life like knowing that I kind of wanted to coach, and that was something that interested me. And I've been a Michigan State fan my whole life, so the answer, the easy answer is Michigan State, but I really don't know because sure I I could see myself ending up pretty much anywhere. I wouldn't say that I'm putting myself in a box of like I want to end up here, I want to end up there. I'm just gonna kind of go where it takes me, I guess.

SPEAKER_03 38:25

I respect that. Um, if we're not talking specific schools, then how about specific conference, specific geography? I mean, where where do you see yourself at? I mean, you want to go out west, you want to go down south, northeast?

SPEAKER_00 38:38

Yeah, I think down south would be awesome. I think coaching in the SEC would be unreal. Um yeah, I mean, there's just there's just so many options. There's so many colleges. It's just it's hard to pinpoint one, especially when I've grown up in Michigan my whole life. I haven't really seen any other colleges aside from the ones that I've visited. Um, I don't totally know an answer, but I do think going down south would be pretty cool. I've always wanted to be in warm weather and live down south. So I think somewhere down there.

SPEAKER_03 39:11

So what when pursuing this goal, what is what do next steps look like? How does one get involved with collegiate golf coaching?

SPEAKER_00 39:19

Yeah, so right now while I'm in college, um, that was actually one of the biggest reasons I chose Bowling Green, was because my coach, she played at Bowling Green. She was hired at, I believe, 24 years old. Um, and so she's been here for a few years. She's a younger coach with a lot of like energy and passion for the program. I thought that she was gonna be a great coach to learn from, and I was definitely right. She has kind of helped me like maybe see some behind-the-scenes stuff in terms of like this is how I go about like making a practice plan, or like I'm out of town this weekend, can you make the practice plan type of a thing? Um, so she's helped me out in that sort of way of just kind of seeing what it's like on the other side a little bit, and that's been awesome to see. So that definitely has helped me to kind of solidify this is definitely what I want to pursue.

SPEAKER_03 40:14

Sure, that is too cool. I love that aspiration.

SPEAKER_01 40:18

You know, Gare, uh Drew Koble, you remember him. Yeah, totally. So he's out in Delaware. He had yeah, he had the same aspirations and knew he wanted to be a coach, and so you know, he's out at Delaware as the assistant men's golf coach, and um it's just cool to watch them uh, you know, uh finish out their college careers and then know exactly what they want to do.

SPEAKER_03 40:44

Yeah, have these great playing careers of their own and then want to continue that journey and mentoring others and helping others establish themselves and have great playing careers.

SPEAKER_01 40:53

That is uh that's about giving back at the end of the day. Coaching is giving, you know, it's giving a piece of you to your uh your team, the the your players, um many aspects of you you're giving yourself up. So I just think it's great. So that's awesome, Macy. I did not know that actually. So I th I'm I'm glad to hear that. Okay, G. Clubhouse time. What you got, McGee? You ready to go to the clubhouse? Clubhouse, the round's done. We're gonna ask Macy some questions as we have a little soda pop. So bottle of water. Bottle of water. Um Macy, tell our listeners just about you. Like, we've talked about everything golf related. Um what about you as a person? Like, what type of movies do you like? Uh, what do you what hobbies do you have? Uh, you know, what what's your favorite food? Just give us a glimpse into your your world.

SPEAKER_00 41:56

Um, well, my all-time favorite movie is probably Mamma Mia or Moneyball with Brad Pitt. Um, I love fried food. I love chicken tenders, I love everything about that. Um I am a sophomore here at Bowling Green. I'm studying business business management. Um I have a very close relationship with my family. My family owns a salon in Spa in Grand Rapids, and that's definitely been a big part of my life. Um, been in Grand Rapids my whole life.

SPEAKER_01 42:34

Let's give it a plug. Give give the family spawn salon a plug because it's a very well-known one in the Grand Rapids area. So give it a plug.

SPEAKER_00 42:45

Heidi Christine's.

SPEAKER_01 42:46

Yep, and so if anybody wants needs their haircut, massage, facial, do you have like some code we can give out? And you know, they get a little discount or what?

SPEAKER_00 42:57

We do not have a code, but we are we are we are doing a little trial run with um new clients giving them some discounts when they come in. So any anybody that's never been there before, it's a great opportunity to get some discounts.

SPEAKER_01 43:14

Listen, you tell Chris, who's Macy's dad, we call him Chris, because that's his name. You tell Chris to uh give the not salty golf podcast some discount codes we can throw out, you know, because it's not salty golf podcast sponsored by nobody, but we could put Huddy Christine in there. So you work on that for us, and uh we'll take care of the rest.

SPEAKER_03 43:45

Nice, that's too good, Mickey. AC, what are you dipping your chicken tenders in?

SPEAKER_00 43:50

Oof, just kind of depends. It depends where the chicken tenders are from. Okay, like usually ranch, but if I'm at McDonald's, Buffalo. Sometimes sometimes just catch up, which makes me feel like I'm 12 years old, but it's good.

SPEAKER_01 44:07

Okay, you just open up a whole can of worms. Uh-huh. You cannot tell say you are chicken tender connoisseur and then throw McDonald's chicken tenders in the conversation.

SPEAKER_00 44:23

McDonald's is great. I don't understand the hate. McDonald's is awesome.

SPEAKER_03 44:27

She didn't use the word connoisseur, Mike. She just said she her favorite food was tenders.

SPEAKER_00 44:32

And she threw McDonald's.

SPEAKER_01 44:36

Those are chicken nuggets. Those aren't chicken tenders.

SPEAKER_00 44:39

It's still fried food.

SPEAKER_03 44:40

They've got they've got strips though nowadays, I think. Right?

SPEAKER_00 44:43

They do.

SPEAKER_03 44:44

They do.

SPEAKER_01 44:45

Oh man. All right. Well, what's the best place you ever got chicken tenders?

SPEAKER_00 44:52

Oof. I'm trying to think. There's a couple places down here in BG, some local places that have good ones for sure. Yeah. I mean I'd say the best chicken nugget though is McDonald's. I don't really care what you say about that, Mike. McDonald's chicken nuggets are awesome. But as far as chicken tenders go, I'd probably say um Beckett's here in Bowling Green. They've got really good chicken tenders.

SPEAKER_01 45:20

I think Culver's chicken tenders are is a sleeper.

SPEAKER_00 45:25

I don't know if I've ever had them.

SPEAKER_01 45:27

Oh you got to. You gotta try it. And you know, Grand Rapids has a raisin canes now, so yeah. You know, that's gonna be your spot. That's by ro on your way to Roby's, so you know.

SPEAKER_00 45:41

Yeah, we've got a raisin canes here about 10-15 minutes from school, so I'm there quite a bit.

SPEAKER_01 45:47

I've never ate there yet. Is it good?

SPEAKER_00 45:49

It is pretty good, yeah. I would say that the best part though is the fries and the Texas toast, but Texas toast, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 45:56

Have you been there, G? I have, yeah. One uh one time, and it was in Lansing on the way back from the USAM four-ball qualifier last summer. I'd never been before, so got to get the Raising Canes experience on the drive home.

SPEAKER_01 46:11

This is pre-6 a.m. hot yoga, right?

SPEAKER_03 46:14

Absolutely, yes. Yeah, I don't go through drive-throughs anymore.

SPEAKER_01 46:17

You should see G Money now, Macy. He's uh we're getting the yoga plug in now, huh? Yeah, the hot yoga player. Shout out yoga. You know, he's down 20, he's hitting the ball further. Everybody that's played with him so far this year said it's like, okay. They're a little mad at Garrett for being so dedicated this offseason.

SPEAKER_03 46:45

You can't be that mad, but exactly. I I unfortunately I don't have discount codes, so I can't provide the opportunity for anyone to come to Yoga 6 at a discount, but I can provide guest passes, first X number of glasses for like 10 bucks. So when you're around, I'm telling you, come get your sweat on, man.

SPEAKER_01 47:02

Increase your mobility with with you and Kurt Bailey.

SPEAKER_03 47:06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 47:08

So, Macy, I know family's like super important to you. Um, you know, I know your family, um, and just unbelievable people. Um, what's their support been like in your golf career and stuff?

SPEAKER_00 47:22

Yeah, I mean, it's been everything, like nothing that I do would be possible without them. Not only do they sign me up for all my tournaments and have handled my equipment my whole life, but even just being there, being able to take off work and drive me to tournaments and stay with me at tournaments and stay in hotels and um take the time to go on all my college visits with me. And I mean, the list just goes on and on and on. Paying for uh my swing coach, and like there's just so many things that they've done to help me and give me everything that I need. So their support has been everything up to this point in my golf career.

SPEAKER_01 48:05

Yeah. Speaking of your golf coach, you know, he obviously is great to Great Lakes Gear and has been great to me and helped me a lot with my golf swing. And uh, I know you and him are super tight. Why why don't you just talk a little bit if you can and plug Brandon in his facility and because he's trying to do some great things over there and is doing some great things over there at Brandon Roby Golf in his uh indoor facility. But if you just want to touch on that for a sec, that'd be great.

SPEAKER_00 48:33

Yeah, um Brandon and I have been working together since I was a freshman in high school. Um, I started working with him in December. So I've been with him for what is that, six years now? A little over that. Which kind of crazy. But um, yeah, so him and I have been working together for a while. I actually back when I started working with him, he was still at Cascade Hills Country Club. Um now he obviously has his own facility, Red Narovi Golf Performance Center. It's Unreal. He's got six trackman hitting bays, seven if you include his own personal instruction area. Got a Puttview Pudding Green, uh massive putting green um behind all of the trackmans. It's it's a really cool facility. And not only do I get lessons from him, but I also work for him in the facility whenever I'm home on breaks and stuff. So it's been good to kind of help him out and give back in whatever way I can because I definitely could not be where I am without him.

SPEAKER_01 49:32

Yeah, he's a great guy. Gee, we'll probably do an episode with him, let's sit down with him uh at his facility or do an episode with him coming up in the summer.

SPEAKER_03 49:43

Uh yeah, he's got a great space. Yeah, a lot of great things over there.

SPEAKER_01 49:46

Yep. Uh so you have conference championship coming up when you come home for the summer. What's your the the I know you you have a busy uh season? Do you do we for will we see you out at quail this summer, Macy?

SPEAKER_00 50:03

Yeah, for sure. No matter how busy I am, we'll find time.

SPEAKER_01 50:07

Yep. Is it gonna be like just a sporadic appearance or is it gonna be a regular appearance out at Quail?

SPEAKER_00 50:16

Um, I could probably make it a little bit more regular in June.

SPEAKER_01 50:20

I think July is when my schedule's pretty packed, but so because we are gonna do our video series that we put on YouTube, so we'll be out there filming that. Um boy, it'll be it'll be Garrett and I. Who are you grabbing as your partner for that uh match that we video?

SPEAKER_03 50:41

The not salty 2v2 challenge. I love this. Yes, sir.

SPEAKER_00 50:46

Who am I grabbing for my partner? Yeah, oh let's see. I mean, that's a tough question. I gotta go with uh Jessica Jolly. We're going to Jessica Jolly.

SPEAKER_03 50:57

All right, what's the format, McGee? You should probably preface it with the format because that that helps dictate who your partner is.

SPEAKER_01 51:04

Well, we we have this you know podcast that we're doing so everybody can kind of get to know our Great Lakes Gear athletes. Um, we also want to do it on the video side, and so we can play golf, do some video clips, get to know them on the golf course, have them explain you know some tips and drills, but also like show them playing golf. Um, it's one thing to talk about golf, but it's also a totally different thing to visually be able to see these players play golf. And so these matches that we do are gonna be just straight up best balls, just best balls, straight up.

SPEAKER_03 51:49

Okay, I was yeah, wasn't sure if you were thinking like alternate shots, like modified alt shots, scramble, best ball, chipping contest.

SPEAKER_01 51:58

There will be no chipping contests, zero chipping contests. Uh uh, Jessica Jolly's your partner, you better uh tell her and get her. I'll let her go. Let her know for June. And that that match will be taking place at Quail Ridge. So our listeners that hear about Quail Ridge a lot are about to see Quail Ridge in June. Love that.

SPEAKER_03 52:24

And on that note, Macy, favorite golf course in the greater Grand Rapids area.

SPEAKER_00 52:30

Oof, in the Grand Rapids area. I'd probably I'd probably have to say either Egypt Valley or Blythefield. Both of those two courses are unreal. I mean, I play the majority of my golf out at Spring Lake Country Club, which is a really nice course as well. I've played American Dunes a couple times. I'd say that's definitely my top four, but favorites probably got to be Egypt Valley.

SPEAKER_03 52:52

Okay. I'm hearing three privates and one high-end public. All right. McGee's plug in Quill Ridge like it's nobody's business. So give us give us your favorite public track. The one that the one that all the listeners can get out to.

SPEAKER_00 53:07

Well, that's gotta be Quill Ridge. Quill Ridge is I'm not even just saying that. Quill Ridge is a really nice golf course, and that's I don't know, Mike, if I've ever even broke 75 out there. It's tough. It can be tough. Greens are massive, so three putts are in play on pretty much every hole.

SPEAKER_03 53:25

It is a great golf course, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 53:27

Yeah, it is a very nice golf course. And I'm fortunate enough to be able to play courses like Egypt Valley and Spring Lake just because I know a lot of people that are members out at those places. But I mean, I grew up playing at like Maple Hill and the Pines out in Byron Center. So I mean, to be able to even play like Quail Ridge or any of the other like high-end public courses in Grand Rapids, like it's it's pretty cool.

SPEAKER_03 53:52

Sure. McGee, this we should implement that. Macy just gave me an idea for our 2v2 YouTube series. We should start hitting people's quote unquote home courses. So we should take we should take Macy on at the Pines. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 54:07

The Pines is no longer my home course. I'm now out at Stonewater Country Club, but back when I was first getting in the game, we were at the Pines.

SPEAKER_01 54:14

All right, Stonewater, it is then. We'll do it at Stonewater. We we plug Quail a lot because we have such a history with quail, deeply rooted. Deep, I mean, my crew's been there I don't know 15 years. Um and so, but we are very, very spoiled because we could do a whole episode on you know the boys at Kent Country Club that are always welcoming us out there, and you know, Ryan and them, and um obviously Thornapple Point with KV and and Adam and those guys, and so I mean, yeah, we could go on and on about we're very blessed, very spoiled um with our relationships, and there's so many great golf courses around the great state of or the great Grand Rapids area. But I was gonna ask you, Macy, what's your favorite golf course in the state of Michigan? Ooh, going bigger.

SPEAKER_00 55:12

State of Michigan gotta be Eagle Eye. Got some good memories out there. It's a very nice golf course, and it's a hard golf course too, but I've always felt like it's suited my game well. My first time ever shooting under par was at Eagle Eye when I was like 12 years old in the 7 to 12 division of Meyer Callaway. I feel like it's always just been a golf course that I love and definitely kind of had a full circle moment this last summer, so that's probably my favorite golf course in the state of Michigan.

SPEAKER_03 55:42

That's awesome. That is a great tournament golf course. I do agree.

SPEAKER_01 55:47

Yep. Anything else for her, G?

SPEAKER_03 55:50

Well, we haven't touched on any equipment yet, McGee. We don't need to go through top to bottom of bag if depending on time. But uh, favorite club in the bag, Macy.

SPEAKER_00 56:01

Favorite club in the bag's probably gotta be either my putter or driver, depending on the day. But I love my potter. I feel like for the most part, I'm a pretty good potter, never really does me wrong. Um, but my driver's just very, very consistent. Like every single round, I kind of know what I'm getting into as far as that goes.

SPEAKER_01 56:23

So what putter are you gaming right now? Uh-huh. That was my next question.

SPEAKER_00 56:27

I've got a very old center shafted Odyssey O Works putter.

SPEAKER_02 56:34

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 56:34

So had that in the bag for about six years. And it was my it was my grandpa's putter before mine. So that putter could be about 20 years old for all I know. I have no idea.

SPEAKER_02 56:44

Nice.

SPEAKER_01 56:45

That's all it's got a story to it. I love that. Yep. Go through your bag real quick. What what's in the bag, Macy?

SPEAKER_00 56:52

So right now I've got a Cobra driver, uh, Taylor made QI10, um, three wood, five hybrid. Um, I've got a ping four hybrid that Brandon actually gave to me probably four years ago um as a demo club, and I just haven't given it back to him. So I've got that in the bag. Um, I'm playing P790 irons, um, five through gap wedge, and then I've got Vokey wedges, um, 58 and 54, and then I've got that Odyssey Potter.

SPEAKER_03 57:31

Most important piece, what ball do you play?

SPEAKER_00 57:33

Oh, I always have played Tailor Maid, but just made the switch this spring playing Callaway.

SPEAKER_03 57:39

So really, which which Callaway ball did you switch to?

SPEAKER_00 57:42

Chrome Tour.

SPEAKER_03 57:43

Okay. I actually just watched watched a reasonably comprehensive review on their new Chrome Tour and Chrome Tour X and was doing a little market research of my own. And what what did you see? What why did you make that switch?

SPEAKER_00 57:56

Um, I would say for me, there was I've always had a lot of struggle with getting spin. Um, and I haven't really had much of an issue since switching to cow away. I kind of feel like I always know how it's gonna react for the most part, and I've seen a lot more consistency with wedges, especially. I would probably say with the cow away ball.

SPEAKER_03 58:19

Okay, interesting. I I haven't hit it personally, but it was curious because I've I've heard more people talking about it lately.

SPEAKER_01 58:25

I want to go back real quick because we're talking about equipment. You actually got a deal with Taylor made years ago because of your strong play at the US Junior. Is that correct?

SPEAKER_00 58:39

Yeah, yep. So it was at the junior PGA actually. Um I played really good the first day of that tournament, and I finished the round and had an email from uh Taylor Maid rep who grew up in the same area as I did. Um, and he just gave me a junior level sponsorship, um, which basically gave me Irons Um Driver Wood hybrid. So just kind of the upper half of my bag. Um, so no wedges or putters or anything, but just irons, woods, hybrids, driver. Um, and then I also got golf balls and hats and gloves. So I got a pretty good deal out of that for sure. Um, but it was just a junior level sponsorship. So once I graduated high school, um I've just kind of been using the same, same old stuff. And uh moving forward, I'm actually gonna be working with Callaway. So that'll start once this college season ends.

SPEAKER_01 59:37

Okay, when you did that deal, I'm just curious because I didn't, you know, these when you're in high school, this happened. Uh was it did you get discount on equipment or did Taylor did you get that equipment?

SPEAKER_00 59:54

Yeah, I just got that equipment from them. So I just had to send out my information and they provided it, yes.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:00

Interesting.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:02

That's an incredible junior level sponsorship opportunity, right?

SPEAKER_01 1:00:06

I was never good enough in high school to get things free given to me by companies because I was, hey, you're really talented. Can we give you something?

SPEAKER_03 1:00:18

Well that that'd be cool. Oh, that is cool. What's the opportunity with Callaway look like, Macy? What are you uh what are you doing with them?

SPEAKER_00 1:00:26

Um, so I'm gonna have a full bag sponsorship with them. Um, and I'm also gonna be using their golf ball. Uh, I'm gonna be flying out to California here in a couple weeks where I'm gonna get that fitting for my full bag. Um, I actually think Brandon Roby's coming with me out to California, so that'll be a lot of fun, and I'm just excited for a new opportunity. And I've got a good relationship with my new rep, uh, Mary Cardez. She's awesome. She plays a lot of amateur golf still in Michigan, so I've seen her name on leaderboards a lot over the years, but I actually met her for the first time um at Band and Dunes this summer. So I'm excited for that moving forward.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:05

That's super cool. Have you have you ever been to uh OEM headquarters like that before?

SPEAKER_00 1:01:10

I have not, no.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:11

Oh, you're gonna love it.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:13

Yeah, I'm pretty excited.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:15

Do you kind of nerd out on equipment? Do you get into that kind of side of the game? Or not too much?

SPEAKER_00 1:01:19

Um, not so much equipment. I feel like I'm kind of a golf nerd with every other aspect, but equipment's never really been one of it, one of them.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:26

I mean, okay.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:27

I feel like it kind of confuses me at times. So I just kind of let Brandon worry about my equipment and I just hit it.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:34

You just swing it. I love that. You'll you'll learn a lot in that experience, so it's it's truly one of a kind to get out there and and get fit by the type of fitters that are at those headquarters and fitting those type of players. So you'll enjoy that.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:47

I would love to go on that trip just to watch, like you're talking about, Garrett, just to because I know Macy's game and I've played enough with her, like I know her strengths and her weaknesses. Sure. So just to be a fly on the wall and watch them interact and talk, like to me, I'm a total golf nerd when it comes to that type of stuff. Like, I want to hear uh I'm the guy that when I go to tour events when I was in, you know, we'd go to the Buick Open, I was always sneaking under the ropes and going up to the tour vans and talking to the guys. Hey, can I see a few questions and things like that? And uh I I I've butt and skied my way into a few things, and I might butt and ski my way on that trip to California with Macy and Brandon at the Callaway thing.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:40

More than welcome to join us, Mike.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:42

I don't I I I want to go, I think that would be an amazing experience. You know, usually when you have a really good buddy who's, you know, like Garrett. Oh here we go. Here we go again. Here we go.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:58

I know we're on operation get McGee to the kingdom. I'm on it, man. I'm on it.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:07

Uh Macy, is there uh anything, you know, parting words or anything? Any advice you can give anybody listening as far as golf or their golf game or you know, something that really helps you that might help them?

SPEAKER_00 1:03:21

Yeah, I mean, really just work as hard as you can and trust the work that you've put in when you actually get in situations and tournaments. It's just so important to actually put the work in. Everybody wants to be at a high level, compete at a high level, but the work that you have to put in to actually get there is a lot. And once you actually get there, you just got to trust all the work that you put in.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:46

Good advice. Great advice. Yeah. Anything, any parting shots for her, Garrett?

SPEAKER_03 1:03:55

No, McGee. I think that uh that closes out the clubhouse, man. That was a lot of good content, and a lot. I I always enjoy the equipment side and like getting my equipment questions in. So thank you, Macy, for answering.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:07

Welcome. Macy, I appreciate you being here, and uh, we'll follow be following you at the conference championship, and we'll uh definitely be seeing you here in June uh for our match.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:19

Awesome, yeah. We'll see you then.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:21

Okay, thanks, Charlie.