The Business Cousins Podcast

Episode 2 Business Cousins Podcast

Bruce Hill & Tasha C Ware Season 1 Episode 2

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Okay.

SPEAKER_01

Welcome, welcome, welcome to the Business Cousins Podcast. We're mixing family and business in all the best ways. My name is Bruce Hill. I make sales simple by teaching you to ask better questions. Tasha. And this is my big little cousin.

SPEAKER_00

Yes, yeah, I am the big little cousin. Hello, everyone.

SPEAKER_01

We were we reconnected and we were having conversations about our businesses. And one day we talked for an hour. I was like, man, we really wish we had recorded it. And then Tasha says, Well, if we're going to record it, we might as well stream it. So here we are, we're sharing our journey with you. We are not the excerpts, we're just a little farther than we were yesterday. We want to help you get a little farther than you were yesterday. All right. So you've got some questions for us. We're going to do our best to check the chats. If you can see me looking over here, I'm not on Twitter.

SPEAKER_00

And neither am I.

SPEAKER_01

Um, so you got some questions for us, I think that were really powerful. Um, do you want to start there or you want to start with a recap?

SPEAKER_00

Let's start with our weekly recap. So, welcome to our journey. Um, for all the business owners out there, this is a funny time of year. As you see, my shirt says it's a holiday, not a holiday week. Um, I know we don't we don't go on break just because the holiday that was made up in 336 AD comes about. We, yeah, real facts, we stay in it. We stay in it. Especially if you're in my industry, you are preparing for January, so we don't just, you know, crash out. Usually we wait till the summertime if you're in the wellness and fitness industry to take our break, you know. So everyone's on a different trajectory. So you think about that while you are in your business. So things that I have had to work on this week. We have had to solidify a venue for my event in March so that that can be launched. I'm excited about that. Shout out to the women's brunch that will be transpiring out here in Maryland. Come check us out, and it was a lot of work. It was a lot of work making sure that the contract was accurate, that the down payment was what it was, and all the things. So went and checked that out and then made sure I hit one networking event. Went to our district nine. Yes, had to go, you know, meet with the people. District 9 holiday party. Shout out to Councilman Sidney Harrison. He did a great job with that. Took mommy, so that's always good because she's for the people and she's a politician. She just retired now. So that was great. And then everything else, I had clients and clients and clients, servicing my clients between now and then. And of course, always, always taxes and PLs and the non-fun stuff. Been working on that this week as well. So checking boxes, and no, I'm not winging it. There's a plan in place.

SPEAKER_01

I love it. Now, before we forget, make sure you share your tagline. What it is, what is it that you do? Maybe someone's listening for the first time.

SPEAKER_00

Yes. Well, I'm a fitness and wellness professional. I create culture within my wellness community so that we have a legacy that we can take on for the future and that we can teach others so that I can give you the tools and you can give them to your family, and they can give them to their family and friends so that wellness becomes part of our lifestyle and not just a trend. That is what I do. Yes.

SPEAKER_01

Step it up for that. Yes, I really love the synergy. Is that the word? Because I was I just got off of recording a podcast so we could do our weekly recap. Um, I just got off a podcast, and he's like, Why is what you do so important? And so it's not uh just about making money, we're we're changing the lives of everyone we'll work with. Right when you change the lives of the people you work with, you change their families' lives, right? Who they go home to, and you change their team's lives. Now they can hire people, and so you change their families' lives. Now we're changing communities, now we're changing the world. And so I'm really excited to hear you say that because I just said that less than an hour ago about my business. Yeah, and that's what we want to create. Someone that changes the world for the better.

SPEAKER_00

That's right, that's right. One person at a time makes a big difference. They think it doesn't matter, but it does from the top to the bottom. Absolutely, it makes some changes out here. So we definitely have some questions, and please, if you guys have any um questions for us, please drop them in the chat. We would love to answer them. So, Bruce, what's one business tool you can't live without?

SPEAKER_01

Oh yeah, I love this question. So, let me go backwards. Sunday, um, we had a uh meetup. I've got some speakers together, and I was like, hey, we're gonna support each other and practice, and then we're gonna go to lunch. No one showed up, and I really want to share this because you're gonna start, and maybe that first time don't go so smoothly. I can't figure out which is more dangerous. If you the first time you just have a thousand people show up, you're like, Oh my god, I'm the best entrepreneur ever. Um, or if no one shows up, now you're really looking at it at yourself, like, man, am I on the right track? So what I did, I said, Well, how do I use this time? Okay, I haven't this block of time now. Um, the tool that I can't use without is probably a suite of tools is Google Workspace.

SPEAKER_00

Okay.

SPEAKER_01

We had, I don't know what the exit was exactly. It was it was eight-figure range. Might have it, might have been, might have been the nine figures. No, they ran the whole business off of Google Workspace. And so I was like, Well, shoot, if we can have a nine-figure exit off of Google Workspace, I can run my business with Google Workspace. So that's the Gmail, uh, Google Meet tasks. Um, what else do I love? The calendar, everything you need to run a business is right there just for a few bucks a month. So that's when I will never shut off. If I have no other tools, I could literally run up five figures easy just with Google Workspace.

SPEAKER_00

Okay, I can see that. I definitely use Google Workspace. Um, in the con from the conception of our business, I started off with everyone to make sure they had their name at HLS Collective, so we weren't running around with the Gmail. So I think you know, you want to present a certain way, you gotta pay the fee. Um, so I definitely use Google Workspace. I also live in my CRM Google. Oh, I use it because that's where all my people are, that's where I'm able to see what social media is going out, what social media has been responded to, and I can see my analytics. I can also blast out my emails and my text message. So outside of Google workspace, that is the one that I would say I use quite often.

SPEAKER_01

You know, shout out to a good friend of mine, Charles Ogosby the third, man of Sigma. Um, he said, if you don't have a CRM, you don't have a business. Ah okay, I already hear your mind turning. What does that quote mean to you?

SPEAKER_00

You know, I have to agree. I mean, that was one of the things that if someone would have told me how much I would have needed it six years later, I would have invested more time and energy really learning how to use that tool the very first year. Um, I didn't even know what a CRM was when I started my business.

SPEAKER_01

And I had one. Hold on, that's a good point. For everyone in different stages of the journey, what is a CRM?

SPEAKER_00

It's a client management tool, it's a client management system, and they come in different varieties, different brands. And most of them, I gotta be honest, aren't the most user-friendly. Usually you need someone to help you build it out, get started, choose. I'm on CRM number four, I think, three or four. Yeah, I've tried different ones because in the beginning, a good friend of mine, he told me to pick one, and I'm like, I don't even know what I'm picking. So I've used client joy, I looked at Kajabi, I've used different versions of Go Hi Level with different agencies where the interface just looked, I couldn't look at it anymore. It was like black and gray. I was like, what my eyes can't take it. So then I had another one through FG funnels, and now I'm at basic go high level. No way, like through through one of my counterparts. But I can agree though, if you if you really want to be in business for the long term and it is not a hobby, I would say start with a CRM for sure.

SPEAKER_01

I like how you snuck in the other question, but let's save the question because I don't want to skip over this part about the CRM. Okay, the difference between an entrepreneur and a business owner is systems, it's systems, and a CRM is a system. It stands for client relationship management. There's actually three types. This this is my bag. This is my bag. So I wrote a book. Haha. Better questions, better clients, and we're working on this one to get her book done by her birthday next year. Oh, yeah, we're gonna hold her accountable. Please do, please do did Lena read out reach out to you.

SPEAKER_00

Um, no, not no, I gotta get on her.

SPEAKER_01

So Lena, um, shout out to Lena Payneweb, is a publisher, so she's connecting with Tasha, make sure she has the tools she needs to get to where she needs to go. Um, so let's circle back to that. I'm gonna have to yell at her, like, hey, tell my cousin out. Yeah, um, so there's three CRMs, and I talk about this in a book about processes where you have a marketing CRM, there's a sales CRM, and then there's a client CRM. Go high level can be used for all the above, which is great, it's all in one. Um, there's so much to unpack, and I remember thinking to myself, I wish I knew all this earlier. So I wrote an ebook. We got to figure out how to get it to the people. Oh, we can put it in the school. Yeah, um it's just called choosing a CR CRM. Like, what is a CRM? How do I use that? How does it help me scale? Um, because if you don't have one, you're going to miss opportunities. You're going to cost yourself money. It's that important. And I know because I've done it. I had someone, I was like, Oh man, I've been meaning to call you. He's like, Oh, yeah, I thought you were gonna call me. So I just went with someone else. Yeah, right. And so the CRM helps put those reminders in there. Um, keep the communication between clients organized, keep the communication between your team organized, get you a CRM. Uh, actually, get one client, then get a CRM.

SPEAKER_00

Yes, yeah, it's great for nurturing so that they don't fall through the cracks because it's better than that. Yes, it's inevitable. And as a trainer, even outside of the the marketing side, it's keeping them and engaged in their wellness journey.

SPEAKER_01

So I'm able to client side.

SPEAKER_00

Yes, I'm so I'm able to send out the recipe of the week, or you know, this is the event that we're having that is free just to get you there to do something outside of your in-home programming. Um, so it's been it's invaluable. So you don't have to send out random emails individually or text messages from your personal phone. Um, it's it really is.

SPEAKER_01

Oh man, listen. My phone's got hundreds, literally hundreds of random numbers in it for me calling um clients, future clients, whatever. And I was like, man, I've got to move this over to CRM. There's a quote, is the cobbler's kids have no shoes. Um cobbler is someone that makes shoes, right? And the and the theory is the the concept is you're so busy helping everyone else, you forget to take care of your business. Um, so one of the things I do is help people set up CRMs. Uh, I set up UpSot, Salesforce, Co-High Level, and 10 others. Um, so you don't have to.

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Right.

SPEAKER_01

That's been that's been good because, like you said, it could be such a pain in the neck.

SPEAKER_00

Oh man, yes. I think that again, if I would have known that day one, I would have hired someone day one. Like first employee, not my not another fitness coach, but a CRM expert.

SPEAKER_01

Absolutely, absolutely. There's whole agencies built on that, but um, I think I think CRM being your most important business tool, or the one you can't live without that shows a lot of wisdom. Uh, and that's something I wish I had adopted earlier, too. Yeah, it was vibes. I'm not gonna lie, the first couple years with all vibes for sure.

SPEAKER_00

I was like, okay, no, you have no idea. And I had one, I just didn't even, I didn't know how to use it. It wasn't even that I didn't have one.

SPEAKER_01

I don't know if that's better or worse.

SPEAKER_00

I don't know. I think that's worse. I think that's worse. You're paying for a tool that you're not using because you don't know how, but someone told you you should have one. So, you know, shout out to Stefan because he was right, he helped help me set up foundationally. He just had a full life and couldn't help me do the next step.

SPEAKER_01

So gotcha, gotcha.

SPEAKER_00

It's all good though. So we're here and now we're here. So anyone starting a business, Google Workspace, CRM. If you need help, hit up Bruce because he has the answers to the test. It's open book. Don't wing it.

SPEAKER_01

Hold on, that's a gem. It's open book in school. You get in trouble for getting answers from other people. They call it cheating. In business, it's called collaborating.

SPEAKER_00

It's called collaborating.

SPEAKER_01

You actually get paid. Yeah, I'll go off.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, go off on it. I mean, it's true. Like, that's why I like working with other business owners. I don't like to gatekeep. They they my friends in business, they send me stuff all the time. New AI training this, and look at this, Tosh. And I send it right back because there's more than enough out here. Like, if you move with abundance, you don't have to gatekeep. You you can you can personally be the open book test, which is what I try to be. You ask me, I'm gonna give you the answer, I'm gonna give you the right person, especially if I don't have the answer, I'm not gonna pretend to have the answer. Like, something.

SPEAKER_01

I don't know, I say so.

SPEAKER_00

I'm not gonna fake the flex because that's not that's not can't move like that. So here's a question. Are you building a business or just creating a really stressful hobby? That might hurt somebody's feelings, you know, because I get all the ideas from all the people, and I'm always like, and they're for me. And I say, well, why don't you do that for me? If that part, that edition is so easy, you know, it's a great idea, but you know, no the same.

SPEAKER_01

Um, I think I definitely started out as a hobby. I don't know if I if I you're gonna hear this story more than once. Um I was trying to get a promotion, I think I said this last time, so I'll tell a short version. And I was just helping folks. This and this is a secret business, this is add value. I was helping folks with the communication and confidence, and someone was like, Man, Bruce, because of what you taught me, I was able to get my dream job. How much do I owe you? And I don't think I really connect that how big that is. Like, how much is the dream job worth? It's like, oh well, I've only worked with you for three hours, so I'm gonna charge you$100. Don't charge for time, charge for transformation. Write that down. So, anyway, they and me one, two, three, four, five. Boom, a hundred dollars. I was like, hey, and that was the most valuable hundred dollars I've ever collected in my life because I didn't have to beg for it. I have that's where they were happy to give it to me, and that's where I became an entrepreneur. So that was a hobby, though. Just right, there's no structures, no processors, no framework, there's nothing, just vibes. Um, not until the exit did I realize how tough it was to find a job in this market. So this is 2025 currently. Um, and this and this was a few years ago. I can't remember if it's before COVID or after. But basically, I had a choice to starve and be homeless or to to get the business business in. And so I built a business. I was full-time entrepreneur for a while. I did go to back to work, we could tell that story. Um, I still run the business, and and the difference now is because there's processes in place, I can work and have a business, it doesn't have to be either or. Um, and that's where I really can start to scale. I could take on more clients, people were happy, they weren't falling through the cracks. Um, still lots of growth, but I can confidently say I'm building a business, and and ultimately I want to be able to pass my nine to five income without spending any more time. So if I leave my nine to five, which I'm not, I'm happy, great company. But if I leave my nine to five, I got the money and the time. That's really the big picture. Yeah, and that's the difference between a hobby and a business, is you don't have no time off. If you if you if it's a hobby, you take time off, what happens? Your income exactly.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, I definitely started off not as a hobby. Um, it was definitely for a source of income when I started personal training. Um, and then once I left working for corporate full-time and started my own business, I didn't necessarily think about it as starting a business. I just had to do something else. And I knew my skill set and I knew I could transform on people's lives. So I had to figure out how do I charge for this in my own way to sustain my lifestyle because I no longer have the corporate, you know, uh training wheels on. I'm like, I have I have to be corporate, I have to be at the top of the food chain to make this thing grow. And I see a lot of personal trainers who, in theory, think they're in business, but really they're doing a hobby because they love working out themselves. Not because they necessarily love helping people, they love working out, they let all things work out, they like talking about working out, so they go, Oh, I should be a trainer. And then, yes, some of them become good trainers, and some of them are focused on themselves as they train other people.

SPEAKER_01

Interesting.

SPEAKER_00

And it becomes a short-term career because it takes a lot of work to deal with people when you think you really want to train athletes, but athletes don't pay. They pay, they don't pay, they are paid to do what they do, and they think it's a favor sometimes that you train them. So you have to be okay with taking general population, but that again goes back to you have to care about someone other than yourself. So that's how it I uh a lot of people in wellness end up in, and it may even be a paid hobby in some ways, right?

SPEAKER_01

No shade. We just have to be honest with ourselves. What are we really doing?

SPEAKER_00

What are you really doing? What do you really do you really want to help people, or do you really like the way you look in the gym and you're always chasing your goals? Because, you know, if you've never been trained by a fitness manager and you're a trainer, you only you got the certification, but you had no mentorship, potentially you could be just training people the way you train yourself, and that is not good enough.

SPEAKER_01

Hmm.

SPEAKER_00

I'll say that.

SPEAKER_01

Do you offer any mentorship or guidance for someone who's like, hey, I want to take this seriously?

SPEAKER_00

Oh, absolutely. I trained and hired and trained, trained for 15 years to teach them how to apply whatever their philosophy is. Give them a philosophy, learn a philosophy, and kind of pick what clientele they do wanna, they they do want to work with and build out their brand and build out their systems. So, yes, I do mentor trainers. I enjoy, I love training trainers to become business owners. Um, because I think we do need more of us that actually care about people.

SPEAKER_01

Ooh.

SPEAKER_00

And who aren't just marketing like the people on TV marketing the Weight Watcher stuff and the things that they just want us to buy, but having some integrity to really transform people's lives.

SPEAKER_01

I think that might be a good area to scale, maybe as early as next year. Um pause. Success, love, speed. We don't do things next month, next year. We do things today after we finish our what we're doing right now. So we have other projects. So it's not to do it next year just because we're practicing. We've got other projects we're gonna finish, and we can use a new product. Um, but I think that would be a really good one to put together is from trainer to business owner. I feel like that's a simple title. I know what's about, and really walking them through, like you said, transforming lives and creating a profitable business.

SPEAKER_00

For sure.

SPEAKER_01

Might be honest on that. But bookmark that one.

SPEAKER_00

Okay, for sure. I mean, and I I've already started the process, so we can we can talk off offline. Oh yeah, yeah. Indeed, that is in school. We I do have a whole section that is dedicated to helping fitness professionals become business owners and transition from a hobby to a business. It's right at your fingertips. You can do it, everyone.

SPEAKER_01

Man, listen, is that school accessible yet? Can we can we put a link in the notes?

SPEAKER_00

Oh, yeah, for sure.

SPEAKER_01

All right, let's do that. So, what we're doing, if you remember what she said, health and wellness. We don't want you to just lose weight or gain weight, whatever your physical goals are. We want your mind to be healthy, spiritual selves to be healthy. Uh, and we want your business to be healthy. So if you're interested in joining a community that's about health and wellness in all areas of your life, hey, come on over.

SPEAKER_02

Yes.

SPEAKER_01

Um, man, there's so much more we could dive into that. So let's see, we talked about the CRM, we talked about your business tool.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Uh, we talked about making it a hobby. Did we finish your weekly recap?

SPEAKER_00

Or we didn't get your weekly recap.

SPEAKER_01

We didn't do mine. Oh man.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, yes. What did you accomplish, Mr. Bruce Heel?

SPEAKER_01

It's been, I gotta look at a calendar. I don't even know.

SPEAKER_00

That busy. So you're not winging it. Okay.

SPEAKER_01

No, if it's not on the calendar, it does not happen. Um, let's see here. Okay. So Friday. Actually, let's go back to a week from today.

SPEAKER_02

Okay.

SPEAKER_01

Uh, Wednesday, I had breakfast with a good friend of mine, um, who's becoming an expect expatriate. Uh, so we talked about building a family, we talked about building a business that you can run from anywhere. Great conversation. Um, and then that same day, I had a client and they wanted to come back. I'm like, okay, well, what are our goals? What are we shooting for? What are the match rules? And so onboarded them. Um, invoices out, just waiting for that to get signed. So I'm thankful for that. That's when you know you're doing it right when people come back.

SPEAKER_00

Yes, yes.

SPEAKER_01

Um I feel like Saturday was a busy day.

SPEAKER_00

Didn't you have a public speaking? Didn't you have a speaking engagement?

SPEAKER_01

I did. That was on the fourth. So I spoke, sold some books, and then the next day I volunteered at a conference, and then the next day I spoke again. Um, that's one thing I'm gonna do is I'm gonna hop on the mic.

SPEAKER_00

So I have some question. I have a question. When you do your conferences, what is the goal? What do you you know? I hear people, especially in the in the DMV area, there's always a conference. Always a conference outside of networking. What do you feel like you get out of them that goes towards your business?

SPEAKER_01

That's an excellent question. So, are we talking about hosting it or attending?

SPEAKER_00

Um, attending.

SPEAKER_01

Okay. So there's three reasons you want to go to a conference, and none of them are to learn anything. Like most of the things, I'll just stop there. Don't go to conference to learn anything. If you learn something, that's a bonus. You go to conferences, first of all, to build your network of professionals, and so whether that's up, across, or down, that's the first reason. You're going to a space where you already know why everyone is here.

SPEAKER_02

Right?

SPEAKER_01

So if I walk into um what do you don't have H E B up there? What do you got? Piggly Wiggly's food lines.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, yeah. That's some country. Yeah, I was like, what? We got we got giant, we got wegmans.

SPEAKER_01

Okay, wagmans, wagmans. All right, you go into Wegmans. If you stood in the front of Wegmans and 10 people come in, you probably couldn't guess what the those 10 people wanted, right? Someone's gonna get some beer, someone get some vegetables, someone's gonna get some frozen pizzas. But when you go to a conference, you know why everyone's there, right? True, you already know they pay money to be here. So so network. So number two is visibility. Um, I've got clients just because they're like, Oh, hey, you're Bruce, I saw you at this conference, and you start to they start to become more familiar with you, and then um the third one is inspiration. When you start to see what's possible, you're like, Oh, I'm not dreaming big enough. Um, I'm not charging enough, right? Whatever the case may be, or hey, I'm doing this way, way more difficult than it needs to be. So network, uh building that familiarity and the inspiration. If you learn something, that's a bonus. So that's why I go to conferences, and a lot of times, I would say this year, my my streak continues. I end up making more money than it cost me to go to the conference because I'm intentional about which ones I go to. My clients are there, and so that's it's it's lead generation for me.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, okay. That's a that's a great takeaway. Um, so I think with that being said, we've given some great tips for this week. Why you should go to a conference? Those were some great answers. Set yourself on Google Workspace if you're running a business, and definitely get a CRM if you would like to stay in business and grow your business and make it not a hobby.

SPEAKER_01

Well said. She said, if you want a real business, get a CRM. If it's a hobby, that's don't worry about it. No, that's it. And that's and that's it. Um, every day is well, no, every day is really not different. It starts to even out after a while. Um, it starts to get predictable. A lot of people think that it has to be unpredictable and uncertain, and you're like, Oh, you never know how much money you're gonna make. Yeah, we do. Yeah, and we we've built it into our business. That's part of not being a hobby. Um, I had a conversation, I'll share this. So page 85, we're talking about attorney conversations to clients. And the first thing I asked her, I was like, What do you want to accomplish from working with me? She's like, Well, I need to do one, two, three. So, well, what have you tried? She's like, I don't know what to do. And um, I said, Well, how serious are you about achieving the goal? She's like, It has to work. I said, Okay, well, here's what I did before, and here's what happened. And I told her, and I was like, Do you want that for your business? And she's like, Yes. I was like, Great. Here's how we're gonna help you. Here's long it's gonna take, here's how much it's gonna cost. What questions do you have? She says, How do we get started? Let's go.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

And that's where we want for you for your business, whether it's your team or you as an individual, we want you to attract people that want to work with you, that want to pay you, that you can help with excellence. All right, we're not taking people money to collect money, um, but you can actually transform their life for business. And so this is our journey. Not everyone says yes, yes, right. Um, I got one, it was like three months ago. They messaged me. They're like, Yeah, we went with this other company, and oh man, they've been terrible and they've been expensive and they've been hard to work with. And I'm just like, Well, I'm here to help when you're ready.

SPEAKER_00

When you're ready, I will be here, and it's okay. And that some of being an entrepreneur is doing the boring part. Sometimes it is a waiting game, and it is a gotta do the calls, gotta do some of the things that aren't so glamorous, they aren't so necessarily Instagram worthy. But if you stay in it long enough, you will reap your reward.

SPEAKER_01

Man, that's such a good feeling. You're gonna win, it's just a matter of win.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, consistency is key, though. You gotta stay in it, gotta stay in it. But that's like most things in life.

SPEAKER_01

Facts, and that's why you're gonna see us. We've committed to 10 episodes.

SPEAKER_00

Absolutely, y'all. This is number two. I'm proud of us, but I'm proud of very small things. I like the small wins too.

SPEAKER_01

So gotta celebrate the wins, large or small. I want them all. Yes, that's that's where you build momentum.

SPEAKER_00

Absolutely.

SPEAKER_01

Um so hold us accountable and say, hey, it's been a week. Where's that next episode at? We're gonna do them live. We may start recording some to build a um, what did you call it?

SPEAKER_00

Like a bank, a bank, a library. Yeah, we may a librarian.

SPEAKER_01

Um, but we definitely, if we do anything else, we're gonna follow through.

SPEAKER_00

Absolutely. And if you guys sent us some messages and we didn't see it, because you know, technology, please DM us, hit us up, ask us questions, or just say hey, if you just wanna show us some love, some inspiration, and remember it's a holiday, not a holiday. But those of my fitness people listening, drink your water.

SPEAKER_01

Show them the mug, show them the mug.

SPEAKER_00

Um, yeah, y'all, check this out. Stay in it, yes, HLS. One one holiday at a time. One holiday at a time. They seem that they just keep coming, whether it's a birthday. You know how people do. I got people who they're celebrating all the way through February. They started in October. Oh no, that's the reality of it all. They're gonna find a way. I'm not saying don't have fun, I'm just saying don't you don't need to binge rest if you have balance in your life.

SPEAKER_01

Man, I think we need to talk about that next one. Balance. Because we could talk about being busy. I think that was one of the questions we didn't get.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. We'll definitely talk about that one next time.

SPEAKER_01

Okay.

SPEAKER_00

That's a that's a good one.

SPEAKER_01

I think you summarized it nicely.

SPEAKER_00

Yes, y'all. Uh thank y'all for hanging out with us. Appreciate it. Business cousins, cousins talking about business. Something you may or may not talk about at your cookout. You just said it all.

SPEAKER_01

I love it. So remember, if you stay with it, you'll reap your reward. I think she said that well. I'm always gonna tell you one new skill will change your life. Uh, thank you for your presence and participation on this podcast. Tell a friend and tell a friend.

SPEAKER_00

Tell a friend and tell a friend. See y'all next week.