Cutting Close: Getting to know Bella Roberts (bella_does_editing) EP.8

This week on Cutting Close, Josh Hughes and Caolan Carney-Slee are joined by content creator and editor Bella Roberts for a fun and honest chat about life behind the camera, breaking into the film industry, and the journey that led her to where she is today.

In this episode, Bella opens up about living with her condition and how it has affected her and some of the challenges she's faced while building a career in a competitive creative industry. She shares her experiences of getting started in film and content creation, the lessons she's learned along the way, and what it really takes to make a living doing what you love.

The conversation also looks at Bella's work as a content creator, the opportunities it has brought her, and some of the incredible people she's met throughout her career—including the unforgettable experience of meeting Steven Spielberg.

As always, the episode isn't all serious. The boys keep things light with plenty of laughs, behind-the-scenes stories, and a quick-fire round of questions that lead to some unexpected answers and hilarious moments.

It's a fun, relaxed episode packed with filmmaking stories, content creation insights, plenty of banter, and a look into Bella's unique journey so far and for what's to come!

Let us know your favourite part of the episode and what question you would've asked Bella.

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Transcript

SPEAKER_04 0:00

When you started then, do you because obviously you always that was your main aim always to work in movies editing when you were younger? Is there a certain time when you decided that that was the route you wanted to go down?

SPEAKER_00 0:08

As someone with a disability coming into the industry. He loves disabilities. My brother absolutely loves Steven Spielberg. I love Steven Spielberg, but my brother is like on another level of like nerd for him. He has like posters all around his house and like Spielberg's face. Yeah, of just his face. You know, he lies in bed like to a pillow with um Steven Spielberg. Yeah, nice, nice kissing. Now I do social media, people will stare at me for other ways because they recognise me. And one time I was on the train, this guy was staring at me, so I was just like, and I gave him like this dirtiest look. Did we get a look? Yeah, I was like that. I'm a mayor flee. So the nerd is referred, but forget what you heard. I'm like, James, but on the phone, sure, chicken nuts stirred up Kevin a poor. The G is silent when I walk in the door. I make love to a woman on a bathroom floor. I don't play like Shaggy. You know it was me, because the next time it's here, she'd be like, ah, Kevin G. That's enough, that's enough, Kevin. Happy holidays, everyone.

SPEAKER_03 1:05

We matched that. Welcome back to Cut and Close. It's me, Josh Hughes, aka the Tourette's barber.

SPEAKER_04 1:11

And me, Queelon, the special Irish fella.

SPEAKER_03 1:13

This is Cut and Close, where we have real conversations, interesting guests, and we take nothing too seriously, and every conversation hits a little fucking close. Right, let's get into it. Let's do it. Yo! Woo! And if you want to support us on this pod, please like and subscribe wherever you're watching this. It fucking goes a long way for us, and we're already trying. God loves to try her. So on today's show, we have another great guest. She's a content creator, film and TV editor, and social media personality known for honest, engaging, behind-the-scenes commentary. No, behind the scenes look at the entertainment industry. And she has the most infectious laugh, which is what I determine from my own side. Um, me and Queen can't wait to talk to her. And if you don't know her, get to know let's get cracking.

SPEAKER_00 1:56

Bella Roberts, welcome, welcome, Bella. No, honestly, thank you so much for having me, guys. It's such a pleasure to be here. Oh, we'll have a bit of crack and a bit of fun. Yeah, I love saying let's get cracking. It's honestly my favourite saying. And like I have people now, like when I'm on the street, like, just shout, let's get cracking, and then just walk away. And I'm like, who was that? I'm like, it's like my ghost.

SPEAKER_03 2:18

But it's just it's almost like your catchphrase now.

SPEAKER_00 2:20

I know. I absolutely love it, honestly, and I'm glad it's stuck. I didn't invent it, of course. I'm sure like it's always been a thing, but I think I've just coined it and it's just stuck, really. Keep it, trademark it, take it off someone else. Actually, trademarked. Yeah, fuck that. That's hers.

SPEAKER_04 2:34

Fucking let her wrap it. You just used it now, you're getting sued tomorrow.

SPEAKER_03 2:38

I'm calling my lawyer. Yeah, 100%. But I mean, like, usually we talk about how we got to this point of like getting you on, and actually, I think we kind of spoke off camera before, but um, so I like Queen and I have both appreciated you from afar, but actually it was Ryan, our cameraman, who actually was like legend. Obviously, kind of in industry, so he was like, have you seen them? Of course we've seen he was like, Oh, Josh, try and reach out and see how you go. And I'll be honest, I messaged Bella in the morning and we were on the phone by the end of the day. And it's not even like it was like, oh my god, I'm so kicked. It's just I just think we just clicked, right?

SPEAKER_00 3:10

Yeah, I think you know, I I don't often do a lot of podcasts. And so, like, when I when you reached out, I was like, Oh, like I've seen your stuff before. I really like your like ethos, and yeah, I also really like in-person podcasts. So when you're like, come to my barber shop.

SPEAKER_03 3:27

Barber shop, yeah. What do you call it? Like we've covered up all the mirrors, so you wouldn't know it's a barber shop.

SPEAKER_00 3:32

I know, I don't know. It could be a prison. Yeah, I might, I might not I might not be able to leave, guys. Well, if this podcast is shit, it must get 10k likes. Or I cannot leave.

SPEAKER_03 3:47

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 3:48

No, I'll leave like with the buzz cut, yeah. Um, yeah, so yeah, that's when I was like, okay, yeah, cool, I'll come down. And um, yeah, it just honestly really and obviously I wasn't doing anything on a Monday, so I was like, why not?

SPEAKER_03 4:00

Yeah. Well, well, you did move some stuff around, I know you did, but we won't have to get into that.

SPEAKER_00 4:04

No, for sure.

SPEAKER_03 4:05

Yeah, 100%. But no, it was great, and I think it was a great idea of Ryan, and yeah, the connection, like you said, know it's your brother, and yeah, it's all just I love we love networking with with people with the bigger.

SPEAKER_00 4:14

I think the world is just interconnected, everybody knows everybody somehow. It is mad though.

SPEAKER_03 4:19

I realised that the other day, actually, that it literally you are one person removed from knowing like so many others. Yeah, like I realised the other day a person that I speak about all the time, and it literally, there's two brothers that run run like a hotel and a pub in our town in Hartford. And then I realised I've known one of the brothers for like three or four years, and I'd never knew it was him. You know, Nick that runs Brothership is one of the brothers that owns Hartford House and the quietly in that talent.

SPEAKER_04 4:46

To start, because obviously with your social media, yeah. To you, is that more of a side hustle compared to what you do day-to-day work then?

SPEAKER_00 4:52

Oh, that's a great question. Um, I'm definitely using my social I'm definitely using my social media more as kind of my main thing now. Um I definitely obviously work in film and TV and that's my thing, but I always like to kind of take kind of six months on, six months off. Um just allows me to kind of recuperate because if anyone knows working in the industry, your you know, the hours are extremely long sometimes. And you know, when I'm on a job, it's sort of like I don't really see my friends and family a lot. I don't really get to do a lot of content things. So when the summer, when kind of content stuff picks up, that's when I like to be free, yeah. So it's a mixture.

SPEAKER_03 5:28

Do you literally kind of free up time to do more content?

SPEAKER_00 5:31

Not really. I mean, when I get a job through, um, or when you know I go back to applying, uh, there'll be like, you know, I and I never know what I'm applying for and how long the contract could be. So it could be like, yeah, we need you to three months, or it could be two years. And you sort of have to, at that moment, within a heartbeat, decide, do you wanna just stop everything for two years now? And and honestly, that's just sort of how the industry works. When there's not a lot of jobs going, you just have to decide there and then are you gonna do it?

SPEAKER_03 5:59

Yeah, it's funny because actually, I I never I never thought about it on that side of the industry because I've got a few friends that work in that construction side, like carpentry and all that sort of stuff, so they build the sets, and obviously they are doing that again, probably like you as well, like fuck your mum. They're probably doing that so long before the film comes out, obviously. But my my friend who works in the industry, they also have to like kind of navigate when jobs are finished, when they're gonna next one they're gonna do. So, is it kind of really similar like that for you guys?

SPEAKER_00 6:27

Yeah, I mean, I'm still very early on in my career, so it's really hard to determine, like, okay, I'm gonna do this next. When you're more established, you sort of jump from job to job. I'm not at that level yet. Um, but yeah, it's really hard to kind of I would say the hardest thing about the industry is like having to schedule your life because it's so hard to determine, like, like next week I'll be free, and then suddenly a job comes up and you have to take it. Um, I'm very lucky where I have social media to fall back on financially, where like I have that flexibility. I know a lot of colleagues don't have that, where they're literally like begging for a job when they finish because otherwise they have no work. Um, so for me, content is something that I really enjoy, but also is kind of a fallback option when I'm looking for work. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 7:13

And did the social media start before you got into the industry, or did you kind of use social media to get yourself into it?

SPEAKER_00 7:18

Yeah, I use social media. I use so no, it's all weird. Um, I use social media to get into the industry. Um, I knew it's a very competitive industry. I knew I'm just like every other film graduate looking for a job. I thought, what could make me stand out? And at the time I treated social media as a hobby. I just I liked sharing my love for videos. I did YouTube for about five years. It never actually got me anything, but it taught me how to edit.

SPEAKER_01 7:43

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 7:44

Um, and then when I started social media, um I noticed that people were suddenly interested in you know what I had to say. So I was like, well, might as well keep it up.

SPEAKER_03 7:53

How long were you doing it that that that sort of way?

SPEAKER_00 7:55

So before I got into the industry, I would say like a good one or two years.

SPEAKER_03 7:58

Really, okay.

SPEAKER_00 7:59

Um, but I basically put an ad out and was like, hey, has anyone got any work? And that's how um I got loads of emails, but then one of them in particular was from Warp Films who did adolescence and was like, Hey, do you want a trainee job? And I was like, Yeah, please. And so that's how I got my first industry job.

SPEAKER_03 8:16

So if you don't want to ask you, how old are you then? I'm 24. You're 24, so how that was a couple of years ago.

SPEAKER_00 8:20

Yeah, so I think 2022, I'd say.

SPEAKER_03 8:23

Because it's funny, like I think I think I I suppose it does depend on industry, but like I suppose trainee, you are gonna be younger, training job positions. But some people say, like, you don't get taken seriously until you're 25.

SPEAKER_00 8:32

No, no, definitely not. Like, I feel like I'm still not even taken seriously now, and like I think it's really tricky. Like, I feel like you have to build up enough credits, and I think I think age is sort of irrelevant. I think it's in in the terms, I think it's how you carry yourself in the industry.

SPEAKER_01 8:48

Beautiful age.

SPEAKER_00 8:49

Like, if you have like credits and you have like experience, then you can go in there, and no one like really asks age unless unless no one really asks like qualifications or age, it's just about your experience, your credits, and how you kind of carry yourself. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 9:03

So when you started then, do you because obviously you always that was your main aim always to work in movies editing when you were younger, is there a certain time when you decided that that was the route you wanted to go down?

SPEAKER_00 9:12

Oh no, I've always wanted to make movies, like that's always been my dream. Um, I think you know, I grew up a lot kind of like having medical problems and like going through the rung of like hospitals and stuff, and the only thing you could do when you're in a hospital bed is watch movies. So I used to watch loads of movies just to kind of honestly distract myself from what actually was happening to me. And then I used to-that's what film is, that's just a lot of people. Yeah, I mean, film is an escape, really. And I remember like my favourite movies, I would go on YouTube and type in the name of the movie and then behind the scenes, and I'd watch all the behind the scenes content of it, and I'd be like, Whoa, like it's so cool. And just seeing all these big sets and everything, it was so it was so cool. And I was just like, wow. And then the more I looked into it, I realised, you know, people actually get paid to do this, like it isn't like a like a hobby, like you know.

SPEAKER_03 10:01

Well, I think when you see big stuff like that, you almost feel like it's not actually accessible to the average person.

SPEAKER_00 10:05

No, it doesn't, it really feels like unreal. Like, um, and then the more you get into it, you know, the more you you understand the reality of the industry, and we could go down that that's a whole nother conversation, but like just like yeah, it is realistic, but the the connections you need to have to get into the industry is super, super tricky.

SPEAKER_01 10:24

Like to get into it, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 10:26

To get into it, like um, like you have to have some know someone who can recommend you. Um, because imagine, I always say this to people imagine if somebody tomorrow posted a job being like Warner Brothers next movie trainee job on Indeed. Yeah, like do you know how many applications they would get?

SPEAKER_03 10:45

Well it's like trying to get a flat in London, isn't it?

SPEAKER_00 10:47

Yeah, it would just be isn't it? It would just be mental. There'll be cues outside the door for that job, and that's why they like at least in my case, an editorial, they'll just go to like the second assistant and be like, hey, who do you know that's a good trainee who wants to get into the industry? And they'll get five good CVs and they'll pick from that. Yeah, and so it's all like getting into the industry, it's all just networking and chatting to people. And I know this whole trope of like, well, you've got to network, but it is so true. Like how you don't even need qualifications. It's such a especially in London. Yeah, London is very um kind of closed off. I still feel like there needs to be more opportunities for people outside of London, you know, up north.

SPEAKER_03 11:30

Like um, see, I thought like I know they're not like do big budget films, but like Manchester is quite a hub for the stuff.

SPEAKER_00 11:35

Oh yeah, Manchester is great. Like um, they do a lot of like TV stuff.

SPEAKER_01 11:38

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 11:39

I remember I did a work experience there when I was like 16, and they did like uh like they do like question time and they like media, yeah. The media city in Manchester is fantastic, but I'm like I can only speak on behalf of editorial. Editorial, yeah, like film, like I would say the hub is in London, like for editorial, specifically Soho, Fitzrovia, and the surrounding areas. The shift house of London.

SPEAKER_04 12:06

I can say though, is it similar? Because I I did a little bit for TV for hair and makeup. And what I know also that is the second that you say no to a job, you wait a long time to get another job. Exactly. Is that similar with the editorial side of it then?

SPEAKER_00 12:17

Yeah, I mean it is like you kind of just have to, especially at the beginning of your career, when you aren't really established, you don't really know a lot of people, you sort of have to take every opportunity you can. And if someone says, I'll give you a job for two years, you're not exactly going to turn that down. Um, even if you know you suddenly have to put your pause, your life on pause for two years.

SPEAKER_03 12:36

But I suppose it's you want guarante you need guarantees, right?

SPEAKER_00 12:38

Yeah, and there's no guarantees in the industry. I think that's what's the most stressful thing. It's like you don't know like when you finish a job when your next job will be. And some people get really lucky where it's like you know, they'll have it, they'll have a job, they'll only have like a week gap um between their next job, and then some, like for me, I'm still looking for my next job. Yeah, but in a way, uh you know, I'm not being so as proactive and looking for a job right now because I'm leaning back on content again.

SPEAKER_03 13:03

But is you in like obviously your passion is editing, but do you really enjoy doing the content?

SPEAKER_00 13:10

I love doing the content. I think that is something, you know, as I get older, I feel like I'm reaching a midlife crisis. I was thinking about this, I know I was 25. You know, genuinely, genuinely, like I was on the way here and I was like deeping so much in my head, and I was like, you know, is this what I want to be doing with my life? Um, you know, is the industry what I want to do? Is content what I want to do? And you know, I think from my last job, I really struggled like coming home from like a long shift and then having to make videos, like having the energy to do it. And I just thought it's so nice.

SPEAKER_03 13:44

It's a lot of mental. I just my partner does all my videos, and I just I feel bad because she works in social media as well, then comes back and edits my videos more in the evenings and weekends, and I do feel guilty. But she's probably so much better at it than me, and I think you need some sort of subjective eye to look at stuff.

SPEAKER_00 14:00

But I know what you're kind of talking about when it comes to the end of the day, when it's all you've been doing all day, and then you've got to carry on, especially when my job is working on a computer and then coming home and working on a computer again. It's sort of like you don't get any respite from it. But I'm not gonna complain because I think you know it's so easy for me to sit here and be like, oh my gosh, as a content creator, my life is so hard. It's it's nothing like that. And I chose to do this, like, and it's a great hobby. Like, I'm so so lucky.

SPEAKER_03 14:26

I do see that though. I don't not to like slag anyone or particular think about anyone in particular. I have seen content creators almost complain about their job. We've spoken about this a couple of times, isn't it? And we're not talking about anyone specific, but like you really do have to like rein it the fuck in. Like you're in a position where actually you have an audience that will watch it. Like, I'm never gonna be online complaining about doing content because if I didn't want to do it, I could stop. Exactly, yeah. Like but I think it's when people give up their give up their day job, commit everything, but then they're like, guys, I'm working really hard and no one's watching my videos. I'm like, mate.

SPEAKER_00 15:01

That that for me, like I always think with social media. What is that the correct thing to say?

SPEAKER_03 15:04

Sorry, like you said, like we've been spending too much time.

SPEAKER_00 15:08

Yeah, no, it is true. Like, I think like I think content creators often forget like how lucky they are, like, to be in that position. Whilst it obviously has come from hard work of posting videos and being consistent, you know, like you know, some people just literally will record like a 20-second video on their phone, post it, and it gets a million views. Like, I think you know, obviously they are thinking about the content. This is not me hating on creators at all. I I get there is like hard work put into it and dedication and time. No, just say it. Who do I hate the most? Okay. Um that one, you guys, definitely. Um uh I to be honest, I don't I haven't met anyone that I particularly dislike in the creator industry.

SPEAKER_02 15:54

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 15:55

Mainly because I don't hang out with people that I don't like. If I meet somebody for the first time and I don't like their vibe, you're gone. We don't get on. I just go, nice to meet you, and we I just I don't like add them or anything or or message them. I like to think I'm pretty chill, like I get on with most people, but I'm quite like a is rec recluse the right word? I don't You like your own space. Yeah, I like my own space. I go to- Yeah, I don't waste time like with people that I just don't align with, maybe or vibe with.

SPEAKER_03 16:27

You know, that's my take that advice sometimes. Yeah, I I love I love all my friends and people, like it's not like that, but I just think you give a lot of time to a lot of people, and not like you necessarily do it to give it get it back.

SPEAKER_04 16:36

Who do you hate the most at your friend group? Nick Iana.

SPEAKER_03 16:40

I'm joking. I'm joking, we'll cut that out. But no, we won't. No, I'm joking, I love it. No, but I just mean as I just yeah, I think even in friendships and stuff, I think sometimes I'm not even saying I do it, but but I think sometimes friendships, colleagues, you can put a lot in, and sometimes you feel like you don't necessarily get it back, but you can't expect to get it back. And then you've got to just put like expect. Well, I don't know, I don't know. It depends on what day you're asking, to be honest. But I think sometimes you expect to get out what you put in.

SPEAKER_00 17:14

Yeah. Oh, 100%.

SPEAKER_03 17:15

Like and I'm not here at the goodness of his heart.

SPEAKER_00 17:17

No, I know, he's he's here for like the money, the dollars. Yeah, yeah, yeah. She knows how much you get paid. Paid by the minute.

SPEAKER_03 17:25

Well God, that's why he's like, hopefully it's gonna be two hours.

SPEAKER_00 17:29

That's why it turned up late. Exactly that.

SPEAKER_04 17:32

You're just helping the industry, yeah. Oh, my leg don't work like it used to before. But now going back to because you started off running, being a runner in the industry. Yes. What do you remember what the first kind of breakup was to get into actually becoming an editor on movies instead of being a runner?

SPEAKER_00 17:47

So yeah, I yeah, obviously making them as well. And um, I what's what so I want to establish something. I'm not an editor in film and TV as in like big movies. I do lots of like indie stuff outside of the industry. And I obviously make stuff for my brother, but like still kind of a trainee working my way up to hopefully becoming an editor. But I guess my first break into running was like this, like there was this like access scheme that was set up by this guy called Gareth Hill, absolute legend. And he set up the first kind of big up Gareth. Yeah, honestly, big up to him, and such a legend. He helped he basically set up this scheme in collaboration with the BBC, and it was an access scheme for people with disabilities to join post-production. Okay, cool. Um, because I was having such a tough time getting a running job. Running job is extremely physical, and like I would walk in and it would be like, like, obviously, they wouldn't say it, and yeah. Did you ever feel like that? Like the eye is I they would never say it, but I would feel it, like I would just feel the weight of like people's reactions when I walked in. Like, I'm my height, I like look kind of different, and and it, you know, I didn't look like the conventional kind of Popeye. Yeah, for real. No, for real, like that. So like I'm sorry, it's like that conventional, that's conventional like look, and so I knew that kind of feeling. And so, yeah, when I finally got the job, the opportunity, I was like, wow, I'm finally gonna be given a chance.

SPEAKER_04 19:15

Must have been a good moment though.

SPEAKER_00 19:16

Yeah, it was great. It was fantastic.

SPEAKER_03 19:19

Fucked so people do get an opportunity and not just people that are you know, maybe the typical person.

SPEAKER_04 19:25

Yeah, is that still going on for people?

SPEAKER_00 19:29

So I don't know like if that scheme carries on, but uh it was me and this other guy, um, really lovely guy called Espin, and we're both on the scheme together, and he's doing really well. He's a really well-established assistant now. Um, and yeah, I I don't know if the scheme carries on, but I would hope to. And my goal I want to see in the future is if I get established in the industry and I make it up the ranks is to set up schemes like for people coming into the industry that that people did for me. Incredible.

SPEAKER_04 19:57

That's a cool goal to have though, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 19:58

Because I love the fact you're saying that even at the point you're at. Yeah, I mean, I'm still a trainee, but like social aspiration for what you want to put into the industry and maybe change it from the inside out. That's the whole thing.

SPEAKER_00 20:08

I mean, ultimately, that's all you can do. Yeah. I mean, like, I always say when the industry is run by like people that you know, and the people that you know aren't people that you necessarily would run into in your daily life, you know, whether that be like disabled people, POC people, like whoever it is, it's hard to bring those people into the industry when the people that you're bringing into are your friends, yeah if you're not actively friends with those people. So having those schemes are so, so helpful. And not even just um, you know, people that might look different, but people that live in different places, like having schemes outside of London are so integral.

SPEAKER_03 20:45

You do hear that in so many industries though. Anyone, I'm not saying anyone lives up north, but you know, out west, out east, up north. You do feel like sometimes when you're not near to London, yeah, the mad hub the mad hub of England, that it does feel a little bit like you are a bit further out. You know, even with medical stuff, yes, like I I hear it especially in the threats um you know community that actually trying to get the right not even just appointments but the right kind of clinics and and support is really difficult if you're not down south near London.

SPEAKER_00 21:15

Yeah, which is crazy. I can imagine, like I'm very lucky. Like I I think my parents kind of chose to live where I live to be near my hospital because it's like dedicated um for people in my condition, like it's literally a whole area set up specifically for my condition. So I'm very lucky in that sense, but I I I have friends with the same condition as I who like really struggle to get appointments or really struggle to get support, and yeah, I just really feel for them for that. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 21:42

While we touched on that, do you mind what is the condition you're doing?

SPEAKER_00 21:44

Yeah, so I have uh a condition called primary lymphedema, which means I'm swollen everywhere. I basically was born without a functioning lymphatic system, and your lymphatic system takes the excess fluid from your blood and puts it back into your basic kidneys, but because I don't have that, the food. Fluid has nowhere to go, so it just sits on my limbs, and so yeah, that's why I look swallowing my face all the way down to my toes. But some people with a condition have it just in one arm or one leg, or it can be like after you know, a traumatic incident like cancer or car crash or whatever. And um have you always but I I was born with it, so I've always had it, yeah. So crazy. Yeah, it's mad.

SPEAKER_03 22:25

But did you again like obviously we did our research, we've seen you for a file, but you obviously had spoken about that online.

SPEAKER_02 22:29

Yes.

SPEAKER_03 22:30

Is it something that I think I I think I say it a lot now because of the Tourette stuff as well, but do you feel like you advocate for that or do you rather just kind of acknowledge it's there and you want to crack on with what you're passionate about, which is obviously editing and and work?

SPEAKER_00 22:42

Yeah, I mean, obviously I do acknowledge it because it's so visible, it'd be hard to deny that it even was a thing. I don't actively like to speak about it all the time. Yeah, but what's frustrating is like when I speak about it, it goes viral. So it almost feels like I have to speak about it to get those clicks and to get those views. Not that I'm after that, but it's almost like, oh, is that what people are interested in? They're not actually interested in like me as a person, they're interested in how I look.

SPEAKER_03 23:09

I sympathize, I sympathize with that, not in the s not in the same way with my text. I find that is true. If I'm and again, people twitch don't twitch 24-7, which is like a bit of a constant miss misunderstood thing. But if I just talk to the camera and I don't fucking twitch, people I think people switch off. Yeah, which is mad because then I feel like does that does actually anyone care what I have to say? But but again, I I'm not moaning about that, but it I know what you mean by like it goes viral because you're you know, if I said something wild, I know it's gonna do well, and that's not really what I want. But again, you've got to use what you've got, haven't you? You know?

SPEAKER_00 23:41

Yeah, literally, like, and it's it's all just you've got to use what's in your arsenal. And I mean, I like to obviously speak about it because I think it is important to acknowledge, you know, as someone with a disability coming into the industry. Queen Lance disabilities. Like, it's it's so it's so important. Like no, I raised so much.

SPEAKER_03 23:59

Like we can't acknowledge.

SPEAKER_00 24:02

Am I allowed to laugh? I don't know.

SPEAKER_03 24:04

So we should have established that before. That's you're absolutely allowed to laugh, and you're allowed to take the piss out of me. Okay, good.

SPEAKER_00 24:09

Because I was like, is this offensive?

SPEAKER_03 24:11

No, no, no, just yeah.

SPEAKER_00 24:13

I'm then like, hold it in.

SPEAKER_03 24:15

You're listening, you're like you're like, don't look at him, just carry on talking what he's doing. It's absolutely fine. So we should have established that before. Thank God. Um I just say Popeye, that was I I really hate that shit. No, no, no. Have you ever heard that before, though?

SPEAKER_00 24:27

Oh yeah, I get that uh comments all the time. Oh really? I thought I was the first. No, no, honestly, so that's why I was like, oh, I'm kind of used to it. Um, because I'm like, at least come up with a better insult. No, I agree.

SPEAKER_03 24:38

I do know what I for me, even like talking about my ticks like that, right? I'm not really someone who's actually necessarily paying attention to the visual of what I'm thinking about. I'm not thinking about, I was not thinking about it, and I've said it, and then I felt fucking terrible in that moment, and then also just thought like, fucking hell, where like how mental is it in the brain that that's come up? Because I hadn't thought about that.

SPEAKER_00 24:56

Yeah, I I honestly I find like like I've been learning so much about Tourette's and obviously like seeing your page and stuff, and it's it's you know really cool. But recently I watched the movie I Swear and just such like genuinely. I I watched it with my brother in the living room, and I I finished watching it, and I just I was gonna do a review video, like I propped my phone up, and I was just like I just started crying, and I was crying the whole review, and I didn't end up posting it because I'm like, this is so cringe me just crying the whole time. So I thought, did you not post that at all? No, I didn't post it at all. Um, but the reason it touched me so much is because like um obviously I don't have to, I don't have like um you know, family with it or anything, but um you know, living with a chronic condition, I can relate so much to um the story, and there was one scene in that movie, two scenes actually, one scene, so I'm gonna go on a bit tangent here.

SPEAKER_03 25:52

But we love tangents.

SPEAKER_00 25:53

One scene in that movie, yeah. So I read that. Um there was one scene in that movie where um is it John?

SPEAKER_03 26:03

John Richardson.

SPEAKER_00 26:04

John, yeah, John doesn't make uh obviously based on his life, um, but he is in a car with someone with Tourette's, and I believe I believe she's she's really she's a Scottish girl that's actually got Tourette. I don't know what the I think the context of the scene is like they just met for the first time.

SPEAKER_03 26:19

I think it was her parents brought her down to meet someone.

SPEAKER_00 26:21

She's like meet someone with Tourette's and and then obviously they're they're setting each other in in the car, and it like it's quite like a funny moment. But then the next scene is like them just sitting in silence and he's having a cigarette, and they're just talking about their condition and like their feelings, and I related that so much because when I was a kid, I never met anyone who looked like me. I never knew anyone with my same condition because it's so rare. And then when I was 13, my parents took me to this lymphyletics event, which was an event with kids with other condition with the same condition as me. And I walked into the room and I saw everybody who looked like me, and it was the weirdest experience. It was almost like walking around with like blue skin your whole life, and you never meet anyone with blue skin. Then there's no yeah, and then suddenly suddenly you like walk in, and like there's like a room of people with blue skin.

SPEAKER_03 27:12

Was it overwhelming overwhelmingly?

SPEAKER_00 27:14

It was so overwhelming and it was so great, and that scene just brought back so many memories of like that feeling of relatability. Yeah, and then there was another the final scene where he goes in um like post later on in life, where he goes in and has uh kind of like a test with this device that allows him to not silence his tics, but but like like would you say quiet or limit them?

SPEAKER_03 27:38

I suppose it uh it can make it a little bit more manageable. But again, with that, like it is it is lovely to see, and I think the film does it really well. The only thing I question with it, I think it could be misinterpreted that it's a cure. Yes, and it isn't, but but it but it does amazing things. I think, especially for physical ticks, um it's supposed to be sorry, we should really pull up what it's called. It's just left me what it's called. A lot of people are talking about it right now because it's become so much more accessible.

SPEAKER_04 28:03

Um is that actually out there yet for people to use it?

SPEAKER_03 28:06

I think it's well past trial stage. It is excess, yeah. I don't know how many are in demand, but I can I feel a lot of people are waiting for it. Can we just look at it and look at what it is? Because I don't want to cover it. I should read it. It's like an electronic bracelet that kind of gives like um it gives pulses of very, very minimal electric pulses that are supposed to like regulate your neo Neo pulse wristband. Neopulse wristband, that's it.

SPEAKER_04 28:33

Yeah, so electrical stimulation. Yeah, so that's that was really amazing.

SPEAKER_00 28:36

That that was a scene, and obviously he tries it on and he goes into the library, but there was one line of dialogue. I can't know I don't know the specific line of dialogue, but he talks about how like he basically for the last 20 years of having this condition, like he would come in all the time and ask for a cure, and then he just gave up asking. And and that line in particular just like made me sob because I can't remember the last time I've gone to my doctors and asked for a cure, and like that to me, like like living with a chronic condition, although I don't have Tourette's, I related so much to the themes of that movie, and yeah, I just thought like genuinely it was one of the best movies I watched this year, and and just the relatability of it for me. Um, and allowed me to learn so much more about the condition that I didn't know about because you only learn about these things through online or those TikTok videos where it's like this woman was faking Tourette's, and you're like, okay, it just feels so negative.

SPEAKER_03 29:30

I think that's the thing as well. And I I'm almost taking like credit for the film myself. But you directly. I was actually asked to be in it, but but from years ago, and obviously at the time I couldn't commit because of work and it was in Scotland, and I wish it's what genuinely I'd go as far as say it's one of my biggest regrets. Not because of being in it, I know I would have been, it would have been five seconds, but I just would have loved to have been a part of it. And I it is a big regret, and I would have loved to, you know, I've I've I've connected with John, yeah. Davidson through messages, and you know, I think we're hopefully gonna see him later in the year in this chair as well. Oh, that'd be amazing. Um, and I I have to say as well, like you said so many lovely things about the film. I really think you should post that video.

SPEAKER_00 30:06

You really think?

SPEAKER_03 30:07

Because I think the honesty and the way you've just spoken now, I can't it's so bad though, because I'm crying the whole time. There's no falcing, but I just think the vulnerability that of someone, like you said, doesn't have threats, but the way you felt like you've you've responded to it, that's the whole point. And I think educating is definitely the way forward, but then to be able to put it again, like another sort of chronic illness that you've understood from your point of view, and that film has made you see your own. I just that's that is the whole point. And another thing I wanted to touch on about I Swear as well is Robert Arameto who plays John.

SPEAKER_04 30:39

Unbelievable, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 30:40

Unbelievable, amazing. I thought he had Tourette's, I thought that was him, and I and I know it's not him, but you know, he's unbelievable. I went to the premiere in London, and just seeing him in person outside of character of John, I was like, one, he's fucking so cold, but two, like, I and through the ages of John as well. From and young John was great as well in the film, but like younger John, and then all the way up to like John in his 40s and 50s was just so well done.

SPEAKER_00 31:09

So incredible. Do you think it was an accurate portrayal of Tourette's?

SPEAKER_03 31:12

I I truly believe so, yeah. Uh I think I think like from from my point of view, live growth growing up with Tourette's, I didn't it was probably similar age. I was 14, 14 and a half when I developed Tourette's. And not as dramatically in the sense of like you know we got beaten up in the film. I think that's a lot where uh a lot of parents I've spoken to with kids with Tourette's maybe didn't want to see that side. But I think it's a really honest situation, and I've had that situation myself. I've been beating the shit out of uh calling a lot of black guys the N-word when I and I told them I had threats and then they kind of stuff they didn't understand. But anyway, it it can be that it can be that scary at times because you have no control of what you're saying and you're out and about, but I I just think it creates a vulnerability that a lot of people cannot understand. Like even on the weekend, I had someone, I had a really nice guy come up to me and ask me for a picture, which is lovely, and I don't mind doing that. And then I walked past him and his friend, and his friend had obviously had a bit to drink, and I'm not calling him out because it does happen, but he was almost like saying to me, Oh, can you twitch something at me? And I was like, what you what what do you mean? Uh and he was like, Oh, yeah, I he actually said the word which fucked me off even more because I'm obviously everyone hates racism, but I I I get really upset about it because I can't control my words, but yet other people can, and they still fucking say it. But he said, Oh, just call me the N-word or something. And I just went, Well, I looked at this mate, and the mate, the other guy was like, I'm sorry.

SPEAKER_04 32:39

I bet you he was embarrassed as me.

SPEAKER_03 32:41

So sorry. Because he was so genuine he came up to me before and was like, and then um and then I was like, I was like, mate, you want to watch what you're saying? Well, don't be a dick about it. I mean, me be a dick. I said, You're a fucking prick. And he was like, I was at a Twitch, I went, Well, you can have it as a Twitch, but it wasn't. Cheers, mate. Anyway, but it was a throwaway, and I actually didn't remember till the next morning because I'd had a few beers, but it wasn't like I don't want to be learning to anyone, but I just get a little triggered about that sort of shit. That's understood. And that doesn't happen often to me, but anymore. I did used to get it a lot when we were younger, but I think there's a lot more awareness. But things like I swear are creating that awareness for the general public to see. Um, and unfortunately, the work is never done. It's a bit like anything. We've won the battle, but not the war.

SPEAKER_00 33:19

Yeah, it's continuous. Like I relate it like to all people with disabilities. There's so much like advocacy needed to for people to be more accepting. I still have it when I'm out about people just call me their M-word, like the M-word, and you know, especially like it's always like guys when they're drunk and stuff, or when I'm out in a club, people ask me where my parents are and stuff, and like it's just like I have that still as an adult, and like still having to like live that. But social media has really helped, like, in the fact that like it was actually so bad, it's actually so bad. Because like when I was younger and a teenager, like people would stare at me and stuff, and then I would just like stare back, I would like lock eyes, and I would just like deaf stare them back. And obviously, now I do social media, people will stare at me for other ways because they recognize me. And one time I was on the train, this guy was staring at me, so I was just like, and I gave him like this dirtiest look. Did you get a look? Yeah, I was like, like that, like literally like proper, like like crazy eye. Yeah, and I was like, I was like, like doing this like all to him, like like why are you looking at me? And then he and then he gets as he's getting off the train, he's like, Love your videos, and I'm like, Oh me, thanks. And I was like, Oh no, I need to stop doing that. Yeah, so now I've like trained my brain to kind of just like turn it off a bit.

SPEAKER_03 34:34

Yeah, so many years of that sort of yeah, like you're always on guards.

SPEAKER_00 34:38

Yeah, and I feel like you you might get this way, you're just always on guard, you don't know what people are gonna say, and like I don't know, even now where it's like I don't know whether it's people saying hi to me because it's social media, or it's because they're like wanting to say something to be funny. Yeah, yeah. So it's it's tricky.

SPEAKER_04 34:55

It's a different way of living, I could imagine. I don't deal with it, but it's it is fascinating listening to people like you two talk about it. That's also why like movies and film is good for spreading awareness in general, no, because it's such a universal medium, yes, for everyone. Yeah, that's the best thing.

SPEAKER_03 35:07

I think I appreciate us to talk about like your medical stuff and all that, but I think I wanted to touch on the fact that when you said you're watching films when you're hospital, when you were younger, right? Was there a film that really like triggered this how like like what you wanted to get into film?

SPEAKER_00 35:19

You're gonna hate this answer. You're gonna hate this, you're gonna hate this answer so much. Oh god. Okay, I'm sorry, guys. I apologize for everyone in advance. Go on. It's Mamma Mia.

SPEAKER_03 35:31

Oh, fuck.

SPEAKER_00 35:32

I'm sorry, I'm sorry. Okay.

SPEAKER_03 35:34

Well, Piers Brosnan singing terribly.

SPEAKER_00 35:37

SOS out of tune.

SPEAKER_03 35:38

We love Piers.

SPEAKER_00 35:39

It was up there with Castle Crowe and Lemmy's, you know, it's um I don't know what it was that particular movie. Um you're not like I I know people probably wanting me to say something super cinematic and and stuff, but I don't know, when you're like in the dire like pits of hell in the hospital, like getting things jabbed at you all the time, and you just can't leave your house or can't leave your hospital bed. Um, like Mamma Mia was always just such an escape for me because it was like cheesy songs, like beautiful blue skies. Yeah, blue skies, you're in Greece, like you know, there's three baby daddies, and you're trying to figure out who it is, like and like as like my 12-year-old brain, like I just couldn't really comprehend it. Like, I was like, Why don't you just pick one of them? You know, just just or have all three.

SPEAKER_03 36:25

A few more prams and a couple more signals, you would have been crowded.

SPEAKER_00 36:28

Just have a have a have a DNA test. You don't need to do all this, you know. You know, like they're literally singing. You're worried in the plot. I know, but I used to watch it because my mum used to come and visit me because I've seven siblings, so it's like too many. Yeah, no, my well, my granny's from Tipperary. Oh, you tank.

SPEAKER_02 36:50

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 36:51

No, it honestly it runs in my mum, my granny was one of 17, my dad was one of nine, and now I'm one of eight.

SPEAKER_03 36:58

So you've got 16 football teams, didn't you? Yeah, I know.

SPEAKER_00 37:01

Honestly, I you know what? Someone DM DM'd me the other day and was like, I'm your cousin, and I was like, hello.

SPEAKER_04 37:07

You probably have loads of them floating about.

SPEAKER_00 37:09

Honestly, literally, they're all floating about. And I went to Tipperary like last year to see all my Irish family who had not never been.

SPEAKER_04 37:14

What part of Ireland is like South Fix.

SPEAKER_00 37:16

Like near like Bansha and like all of that. And they're like, ha ha. And they were like, Bella, and I can't do the accent, I'm not even gonna try, but sorry, I don't want to offend anyone. Um, but they were like, oh Bella, we love your social media. And they like, they, oh my gosh, I didn't realise how much like like I like my family, or I don't know if it's an Irish thing, but like they they had like a pre-meal, a post-meal, they had a coffee, they had a biscuit. By the end, I actually thought I was going to pass away from how much food I had congested.

SPEAKER_04 37:47

That is an Irish thing, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 37:48

Yeah, yeah. I was like, it was like, I was like, oh, dinner and stuff. They were like, no, now we're having pudding, now we're having the post-pudding.

SPEAKER_03 37:55

The thing is, you think it's the stew it. I know you were joking, but the thing is they would have had that same meal for your fucking funeral the next day. I know, I know. It's a quick turnaround, isn't it?

SPEAKER_00 38:04

It is quick turnaround when I think it's like, yeah, like we don't play about you know, I saw this meme the other day. It was like POV when you've died, and it's like someone just munching sandwiches, and I'm like, actually, yeah. And I'm like, that's so true. Like when when you die, like it's just gonna be a big party and people are gonna have like you know, pickles.

SPEAKER_03 38:18

I've already written it down that I want tacos.

SPEAKER_00 38:20

Tacos, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 38:21

I can't wait. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 38:23

Can we just plan it? Can we plan it for tomorrow? Yeah, oh no.

SPEAKER_03 38:28

Put the hat back on quick. Oh god, sorry guys, that was a post clip for a hair.

unknown 38:34

Oh no.

SPEAKER_03 38:35

We did one clip, and the amount of people like, look at his hair and I fuck you know. When it's not done, it was your brother that was mostly there, it was, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 38:43

Just spamming the comments.

SPEAKER_03 38:44

Yeah, 100%. But I'll just say we can talk about Ireland more actually, because I love it enough.

SPEAKER_04 38:49

We have to all go to Ireland.

SPEAKER_00 38:50

Yeah, Ireland is so lovely. Like, I I was really lucky when I went where it was sunny the whole time I was there. Yeah, yeah, everyone was like, everyone was like, I was like, Bella, I've arrived and it just became the sun. Um moved there, you probably bought people up. Bella does island. Yeah, Bella does Ireland. There's so many things I want to do here, but yeah, I I did actually a vlog because I went to Ireland to discover if I was related to the last witch that was burnt in Ireland. Were you? Um huh?

SPEAKER_04 39:18

Were you?

SPEAKER_00 39:19

No, so I I did this whole vlog, this whole documentary, and I was convinced. Um, because basically, uh Robert McClary, or what's the last name? Can you what's can you Google this? Like, what's the last because there's um there was a last woman burnt for witchcraft in Ireland. Yes. And her her maiden name was Boland, and my granny's maiden name was Boland. Oh well. And she's from the same area.

SPEAKER_04 39:43

There's a fair few Bolands floating around.

SPEAKER_00 39:45

Wait, yeah, and she's the same from the same area as where my granny was from. And like I was like convinced in my head, I was like, there's too many like strings aligning. To connect to it, let's see.

SPEAKER_03 39:55

Yeah, so I went to Bridges get stitches.

SPEAKER_00 39:58

Yeah, for real. Yeah, Bridget, yeah, Blick Bridget Cleary. So I was convinced. Yeah, so yeah, so I was convinced. So then I went to Tipperary, went to the genealogy centre, met this really lovely woman who looked like the mum from the Lorax. Um great film. Yeah, she she was amazing. She was just like, and all I could picture was like, dance with a tree, Ted, dance with a tree. Um so and we met and we did the whole genealogy. Turns out we're not related, but I still got to meet so many of my family. Like, I never met any of my Irish cousins or my family, and they're all so happy to see me, and I was really happy to see them. Um, and yeah, I really want to go back. Like, I really loved visiting island, and it's just such a lovely place.

SPEAKER_04 40:45

Sorry. He's he's fisting island.

SPEAKER_00 40:50

We could try that next.

SPEAKER_03 40:51

Yeah, sorry, Granny and Barbara. Sorry, Barbara.

SPEAKER_00 40:54

It's fine, she's dead.

SPEAKER_03 40:55

Yeah, mine's not. She's done.

SPEAKER_00 41:03

That's the next account. It's paid though. I hope so.

unknown 41:09

That for free.

SPEAKER_00 41:12

We're catching doing that for free.

SPEAKER_03 41:18

We should avoid that conversation.

SPEAKER_04 41:19

Yeah, we get away from that. We're bringing it back, though. I've seen sorry. I wanna I want to go back to Steven Spielberg. Oh yes, yeah. I love that.

SPEAKER_00 41:39

I've made it in life, right?

SPEAKER_04 41:40

Yeah, I've made it. But no, just bring it back because that is that is cool. Like, is he one of the idols in the industry that you had before, or is that just something that couldn't happen?

SPEAKER_00 41:47

I mean, me and Steven Spielberg, I mean, I didn't get to meet him or chat to him person, but I was like, you know, I could say I was in touching distance of him, um, which, you know, I guess is such a big achievement for anyone who loves movies. Um, yeah, he's always been a big idol of mine. You know, he's made so many of my childhood movies. Um, I loved Hook growing up. Hook was such a big love for me. Um my mum always quotes like, Come on, daddy, mommy could do it, as like uh he's trying to rescue the children from their kind of ship. Um, and just like, yeah, Robin Williams. One of my favourite actors, genuinely. I'm so like devastated that he was gone too soon. And like, so yeah, meeting Steven Spielberg, Jenny, is up there like with one of my lifetime moments.

SPEAKER_04 42:33

And how did that come around then? Were you doing work for disclosure day or are you no basically?

SPEAKER_00 42:37

I just got an email because I obviously doing social media, you get invited to like PR events and things, and uh, they were doing lots of promotion for disclosure day, and I was already gonna see it regardless of if I was involved or not. And I was like super gutted because I like didn't get invited to the premiere, and not to be like, oh sad times, but I was seeing all my creative friends getting invited, and I was like, oh, that would have been so cool. Like I'm such a big fan, but obviously I totally get it. Like, and my I feel like I need to up my film and TV content to get invited to those things. But um good time. Yeah, it will come, and like I was like, you know what? You know, I didn't get to go, but like so happy that my friends got to go. It looks so exciting, and I was already already looking forward to seeing it with my brother, who's also a major Spielberg fan. And then I got an email being like, hey, we're doing this like disclosure day, um, like sorry, Steven Spielberg themed pub quiz. Gonna come through. And I was like, Yeah, I love a pub quiz. I love Steven Spielberg. And then it just had like a little thing at the bottom being like special guests, and I was like, okay, like cool. I'd I tell my brother and we go together and we rock up, and it's super cool, like so many like lovely creators, and we're all just like in this room. And then they're like, okay, we're gonna get like two special guests to come into the room and like answer the first two questions. What what who did you think? I I generally I had no idea, but I was like, it can't be Steven Spielberg, because you know, when you think of people. You're like, it can't be him because he's like too famous.

SPEAKER_03 44:04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 44:05

You know, you go to some of these events and you and you get like you get meet so many clubs.

SPEAKER_03 44:09

Could be a look dog spillboat look-alike or something.

SPEAKER_00 44:11

Yeah, I was like, it gotta be like, I don't know, maybe an impressionist or something, or maybe like one. I I honestly I was thinking like maybe it was one of the casts from the movie, and I would have been so happy with that because I was so looking forward to it. I was like, oh my gosh, what if Colin Ferv turns up? Um and Mummy Mia again. Yeah, for real. I'd be like, SOS. Now sing it to me. Last summer. And um, and then obviously, and then I was in the room and I'd arrived late, so I got like one of the like more tight tables. So I was like, oh great, like I'm not gonna have the best seat in the room. But I was like, you know what, I'm really happy to be there. And then I actually lucked out because that's exactly where Steven Spielberg came in. And I I actually like what I'm so happy for is not even so much for me, but it was seeing my brother's reaction. Yeah, my brother absolutely loves Steven Spielberg. I love Steven Spielberg, but my brother is like on another level of like nerd for him. Stop it. Um, and has like posters all around his house and like Spielberg's face. Yeah, of just his face, you know. He lies in bed like to a pillow with um Steven Spielberg. Nice teeth. Yeah, nice, nice kissing teeth. Um, and like I just I like seeing, yeah, for real, and seeing like his reaction made that so much more special for me.

SPEAKER_03 45:29

That's lovely that you're thinking that.

SPEAKER_00 45:31

Yeah, like and I know like he still talks about it to this day. We still call up and it's like, do you remember when we're at Steven Spielberg? And then we talk about it for five minutes.

SPEAKER_04 45:38

It's gonna be a moment for the rest of your life, though.

SPEAKER_00 45:39

Yeah, no, or genuine, like, if like is it gonna be up there?

SPEAKER_03 45:43

Where you can go like that and you're both.

SPEAKER_00 45:45

Yeah, and I just like and then they were like, oh, let's do a photo. And I know I'm short, so I tried to like get like it's close to him, but I was like, the security guard are gonna punch me if I like go near him. So I was like, I'm gonna try and get behind him. And then I was like, oh no, and you know that like bit in um Monsters Inc. where uh Mike was out, he always gets like cropped out the image, and he goes, Oh my, I go he's like, I don't believe it. I was on TV, and like that was me and that photo where I was like slightly like in the frame, but like obviously too short to be like properly in there, but I was like, I can't believe it. I was in the photo.

SPEAKER_03 46:22

See, seeing like I I obviously we checked out a lot of your video, like went through everything, but it was seeing that video. I didn't realize it hit Jimmy Kimmel. I didn't know it doesn't mean but then seeing your reaction to that as well. Um I like the way you even said it's probably the closest I'm ever gonna be to a guest on there. But I was like, you you've been seen.

SPEAKER_00 46:40

I know. I mean, it's still like such a sirol moment. I mean, he probably has no idea who I am, and like, you know, that's fine. He probably meets so many people that are like fans of his work every day.

SPEAKER_03 46:50

But for me, that was just such a big moment for me as a filmmaker, as someone who loves movies, like but he surely might like I I reckon he does maybe when he's feeling reflective, um maybe not individually yourself, but there must be times where he sits and thinks, how many people must I have I inspired to be like in film? And that must be probably the biggest thing he takes away. Like, I'm sure he's got more money than he'd ever be able to spend, obviously, a catalogue of work, but that must be such a fuck an amazing feeling to know that you've inspired people to do what you want to do at your level.

SPEAKER_00 47:23

Yeah, I mean, I wonder how he goes to sleep at night, you know. I reckon a labor.

SPEAKER_04 47:31

Well, speaking of his movies though, what is what you reckon top three Spielberg movies if you could only have three left, which is probably a bit difficult, but you don't have a choice.

SPEAKER_00 47:39

Um Hook probably has to be up there. Yep. Top three.

SPEAKER_03 47:46

Um, just to come in. I love George.

SPEAKER_00 47:53

I love I mean there's so many of his that I like. I mean, Hook. Can you like name me some movies? Because you know when you have like so many movies in your head that you're like almost I can't think.

SPEAKER_04 48:02

God, I should look at this.

SPEAKER_00 48:04

Yeah. Cut this out. Cut this out so it doesn't make me look like a I'm not a true fan.

SPEAKER_04 48:08

We'll just go a quick little Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 48:09

Hook.

SPEAKER_02 48:10

I'm a big fan of um Jurassic Park.

SPEAKER_00 48:11

Yeah, oh yeah, I like Jurassic Park. Oh yeah, he's done disclosure date. He's done Shinla's List, E.T.

SPEAKER_01 48:19

Oh, yeah, Indiana Jones.

SPEAKER_00 48:21

Indiana Jones, oh yeah, Pride Ryan. Oh, he did um, he did uh oh actually I've got my list.

SPEAKER_03 48:28

Oh he did the terminal. Oh, I didn't realise it did catch me if you can. That is my favourite one of my favorite things. Yeah, I didn't know that. I didn't know.

SPEAKER_00 48:36

He's done so many incredible movies. I think for me, my top three movies are Hook, E.T. Yeah, and probably Empire of the Sun.

SPEAKER_02 48:46

Okay, cool.

SPEAKER_00 48:47

Now this might be kind of a a weird one, but there is a song in Empire of the Sun um where Christian Bale is like looking off the distance and it's pla and it's like these like planes, and you just know that they're not gonna be coming back. And there's a song, and it's like uh I wouldn't I don't know if it's a hymn or a choir song, but it's a choir song in Welsh, and it's the most beautiful song. And I'm not even gonna attempt to sing it, but like look it up, like and it just like yeah. I I like when I listen to it, it makes me want to cry. And so for that, like it's just that that I think a lot of Spielberg's movies that I just love are the scores. Like you can you can hear them before you see them. Yeah, um, you know, Jaws, uh Jaws is the ego dum. I love Jaws. Yeah, so yeah, for me, like I'm such an admirer of his work. There's other filmmakers, of course, who I also equally love.

SPEAKER_03 49:39

Yeah, who's who's that one as well for you?

SPEAKER_00 49:41

I love Edgar Wright. Uh he does a lot of uh like Sean of the Dead, Hot Fuzz.

SPEAKER_03 49:48

Oh, just the de There definitely a style there, isn't it?

SPEAKER_00 49:50

Yeah, I love his style of filmmaking, especially from an editing perspective. I love how he cuts to music. I'm I'm very much a similar person in the way I edit. Um obviously I know he doesn't edit his movies, but um just obviously he influences a lot of the style of the movie. So yeah, I love.

SPEAKER_03 50:09

Sorry, his name's completely F me. Who loves feet?

SPEAKER_00 50:12

Quintino.

SPEAKER_03 50:13

Quinton Tarantino. Oh Quinton Tarantino. I mean, I love Reservoir Dogs. He does creep me out. I'm not really talking about him as a person, but like his film style.

SPEAKER_00 50:21

Oh yeah. He did um he did in Glorious Bastards, right? Great film, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 50:25

Hatefully, yeah, such as so many good films.

SPEAKER_00 50:28

I mean, there's so many good films. It's really hard. He cracks me up though. There's an interview he did where like someone's interviewing him and he doesn't want to be answered. And he goes, I'm shutting you down. I'm shutting you down.

SPEAKER_02 50:42

The eagle.

SPEAKER_00 50:42

Yeah, so every time I like um like think of him, I I think of that.

SPEAKER_03 50:47

But I like his story as well because you know he started off in a video store.

SPEAKER_00 50:50

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 50:50

And that was how he kind of started, and then he just he obviously wanted to make a film, but he just couldn't get anywhere. So he put himself, I think he was in California, I'm assuming, but just put himself in a video store, watched them all. Yeah. Like, and I love that, and that would have been like late 70s, early 80s, and I just like the kind of dedication to like, you know what, nothing's happening right now. But he and even a bit like yourself, like you know, you you're trying to make it uh in an editorial, but you're then actually making content about the trying to so you're you're still involving yourself, even though it might not be what you're doing 100% all the time, but you're still involving yourself in it something.

SPEAKER_00 51:22

I think with anything, with any goal that you have in life, you always have to be working at it every single day. You know, a lot of people say that you know, when you look at people who have come out of the blue and suddenly blown up, you know, it that hasn't always been the case, like that you you haven't seen them actually chipping away every single day to make those opportunities. You haven't seen the fruits of the labour. Yeah, and like for me, I actually, you know, my main goal is to be an editor, but genuinely, like I've been sat and as I go back to like my midlife crisis, but um, my main goal is like to make movies like with my brother. So I want to edit and produce his movies that he directs, and uh, we're already like in the pipeline, we've already been making stuff for the last five years. I made multiple shorts with him. We're trying to make this next short to hopefully then make it into a feature. And recently, after being inspired of the back of obsession and backrooms and seeing how independent filmmaking is making a rise again, I really just I really feel it in my bones that this is what I'm gonna do. Maybe not necessarily work on other people's movies, you know, those franchises, but make my own things and and and that is my dream.

SPEAKER_03 52:26

Because isn't backrooms wasn't it wasn't that all.

SPEAKER_04 52:28

That's based off the guy from TikTok and it or the nearest.

SPEAKER_00 52:32

Yeah, they both of those guys had the youngest person ever to have a box office here. 20 years old. 20 years old.

SPEAKER_04 52:39

What was the horror film that came out a couple of years ago? The two twins who are YouTubers.

SPEAKER_00 52:44

Talk to me is so good.

SPEAKER_04 52:45

I was too scared to watch it, but I heard it was.

SPEAKER_03 52:48

I reckon we could just leave these two like talking about it because I reckon you just get nerdy over like it's so like No, right.

SPEAKER_00 52:57

Sorry, sorry. I I I rate you so much, I rate you so much. Afterwards, afterwards. That'll be the post post-credit take. Yeah. Um, but no, there's so much like hope as well for like um like indie filmmakers now, like who have social media and using that as their catalogue. And I think like studios are now looking at you know people who do social media as like people who are equally as talented as people who have agents and things.

SPEAKER_04 53:21

Well it's a way in, isn't it?

SPEAKER_00 53:22

Yeah, there's and I think it goes back to that thing, is like if you want something so bad, you will find a m a way to get into the industry or get your dreams sort of.

SPEAKER_03 53:30

I think that is happening a lot with social media in this respect of like whether it's acting, whether it's interviewing or presenting and um editing and everything. I think that does seem it seems to be paving a way, which was once very difficult, and even more difficult than it is now. Yeah. Do you know what I mean? I think that because then now you get so much more exposure. I had to say there's another guy who I think does more reviews and all that stuff. Don't know if you've seen him, he's interviewed some of his favourite people and he's so the guy with the notebook.

SPEAKER_00 53:56

Stepping through film. Stepping through film. Yeah, he's he's such a lovely guy. I've been to a few events with him, and he's just as nice in person. He's crushed across it. He's just super down-to-earth.

SPEAKER_03 54:07

He articulates himself in such a way which I think you just want to listen what he's got to say, even though he's interviewing Tom Cruise and that. Yeah, his name's his name's Tom. But he's interviewing massive people, but actually, I'm more I'm almost more fixated on him.

SPEAKER_04 54:18

It's so authentic, though, the way it does it, though, that's the thing, and you can see how much passion he has.

SPEAKER_03 54:21

But he's been given the opportunity to do it, and he's like taken it both once, but never changed.

SPEAKER_04 54:25

Yeah, but you can see much the actors appreciate him actually being interested in her properly inspired.

SPEAKER_03 54:28

I can't remember which one touched me the most, but there was one where, like, oh, I can't remember who it was.

SPEAKER_00 54:33

He interviewed uh Spielberg recently and he also did Heartstopper a lot.

SPEAKER_03 54:37

Yeah, like because I know he quite likes like their work and yeah, I can't remember exactly what one, but he he it was just the way he really pulled out everything, and you could see the genuine like But it's the fact that he has notes from like 15 years ago watching the movie initially, and then to go back to that and then I know he's just he's such a lovely guy.

SPEAKER_00 54:57

I rate him so much, and I think like I'm so glad he's gotten these opportunities because he's so deserving, and you know, as someone who loves equally loves films, you know, I'd be so happy to see somebody meet their heroes.

SPEAKER_03 55:08

Definitely, and I think it's nice to hear yourself in the same sort of industry and like being like being absolutely gas for someone else to be doing well, yeah. You know, that's what it's about. I think that's a good idea.

SPEAKER_00 55:19

I think yeah, I think like I think content is so competitive sometimes, and you often look at numbers, but you know, equally, if you just continue on your path and you focus on what you want to do, opportunities will come to you the same way.

SPEAKER_03 55:32

I think social media is a big comparison thing at the Oh my gosh, it is.

SPEAKER_00 55:35

And you meet a lot of people who unfortunately aren't maybe as nice in real life as they are online. And I've definitely met a few, but um just met another one today. Yeah, I'm adding you to the list. Hashtag blocked when I'm home.

SPEAKER_03 55:51

Hashtag cancel the tourist block.

SPEAKER_00 55:53

But like, no, it's it's it's nice, and I think like you know, the same way you meet your friends, you find the people that you connect with like through content as well. And I have a lot of film friends that I like bounce ideas off, and we also hang out and we go like clubbing together, and that and that's really nice. Just you know, also finding people that relate to this job as well, because it is just so unique, like having a platform and having to kind of like manage that and people it can be unusual, yeah. Like trying to explain it, like you know, I was talking to somebody the the other day, it's like when you are a lifestyle creator and you make content about your life, you realize you've posted things about your life that you've forgotten about. Like, I'll come up, I'll like people come up to me and be like, oh, like how's your job or how's your new flat? And I'd be like, wait, I've told people about this.

SPEAKER_03 56:39

I I feel like that all the time.

SPEAKER_00 56:40

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 56:41

Mine's mine for me is like my Twitches. I thought it was so funny when you said that, and I'm like, what the fuck are you talking about? But then obviously, because I think when you've been doing it quite a while, but I keep forgetting, I've been doing like posting content quite continuously for like over three years now. Um it was actually my my partner Lucy was like um she just told me you're struggling at work with your tourettes, but you keep pushing forward. It's like, why don't you just film it? And then like posted two videos with two guys I was really comfortable with, did really well, and then one little kid and I called him a pedo in the first five seconds of a video, and it just fucking blew up, and I didn't know what to expect. And I remember some people being like, Oh, it's alright for you, you've done like you've you know, because you've got to it's obviously done well. And I was like, Well, I don't think it's obviously done well. I just think it's like it hadn't ever been seen before.

SPEAKER_04 57:26

Most people online it just happens on it. It does.

SPEAKER_00 57:28

Yeah, it's just a spurt. You never really predict. I always find the videos that you kind of fling out there without any not care, but you just kind of go, Oh, I'm just gonna post that thing. Yeah, normally gets the most views compared to videos that you curate for days.

SPEAKER_03 57:41

I think it's really hard to not like I always say that I try not to focus on views and numbers, but it's really fucking funny.

SPEAKER_00 57:48

It's so hard when your whole life is algorithms, and you know, when you're working with brands who will be like, oh, what's your uh like uh insights for this campaign or whatever? And then you you know really boil it down, and then they go, Oh, sorry, we're gonna pick somebody else, and you go, Oh, why? It's like, oh, because we need this demographic, and you're like, Oh, okay, so and it is then a numbers game, but I remember I I had I had someone reach out to me from Diesel, like the uh clothing company, and I was like, fucking hell, this is like I was thinking of the car company, I was like, wait, like didn't you les scrap them ages ago?

SPEAKER_03 58:22

Oh, they're still about oging up the environment. Um bitches, fuck here, Star and his mum. Sorry, she said no politics. Um, but lost. Oh, yeah, Diesel reached out to me, and then uh to fair my management, they were like, Oh no, here's this car, and then they said, Oh, sorry, it doesn't work. Because all your followers are middle-aged women, because they wanted male dominated, and I was like, Yeah, like 55% women, yeah, then 45% men.

SPEAKER_00 58:51

Yeah, it's really interesting how social media works. Hi, Ryan's mum. Lisa, Lisa. Oh, Lisa, at least 50%.

SPEAKER_03 59:02

But no, but it's it's but yeah. I mean, you don't mean miss opportunities, but yeah, should we play? We have a game. Okay, oh, okay. Okay, should we do one round and I do round? Yeah, we've got one each. Okay, shall I introduce the game? No, actually, why don't you introduce the game? Cook keep or cancel. So we're gonna give you three movies. I'll translate that. Yeah, what's it? Do it do it slower. Because I didn't I it sounded like it's a cock cock kook and anyway, just do that again.

unknown 59:27

Cook keep or cancel.

SPEAKER_04 59:29

So it's cook, keep, or cancel. Um we got three different movies, and you have to either cut one or keep one or actually you wrote these names. This doesn't actually make any sense. Cot, keep or cancel. Cancel and cost the same thing, no?

SPEAKER_03 59:43

No, because no, no. If you actually read Is this a new game? No, Quaylon, if you actually read what I fucking hurt, um keep it's keep, cut, cancel. Keep one forever, cut one from existence, cancel one before it was ever made. Okay. Cancel the franchise. Okay.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:04

It does make perfect. You're gonna have to prompt me on all these terms so that I like I agree.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:08

Uh just remember cancel, cancel is just like you wish it never existed.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:12

Okay, cancel it.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:13

And then cut is just like well, yeah. Well, it's cut though. Cut's like get rid of it, but we will still remember it. You might be watching the game, but yeah, fine.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:21

But cancel die, you don't want it, you want to erase it from memory.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:23

Yes, yes.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:24

Okay, fine.

SPEAKER_04 1:00:24

It's like Shag Mary avoid, but we're filmed. Yeah, okay. Uh Toy Story, Shrek, or How to Train a Dragon.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:31

Oh, Jesus.

SPEAKER_04 1:00:32

This is a franchise.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:33

Okay, okay. Um, uh, I have friends who worked on how to train your dragon. Okay. Um I'm gonna cancel how to train your dragon. That's so painful. That's so painful.

SPEAKER_04 1:00:46

Sorry, friends.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:47

Oh no.

SPEAKER_04 1:00:48

Sorry, dragons. Sorry. I reckon Toy Story is difficult though, because I wouldn't know what to do either.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:55

Can I do like a 50-50? Can I do okay? Right. This is like this is this is like choosing life or death.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:03

Um thinking about what's already out, what's coming out.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:06

Yeah, I'm like Toy Story's gone. Toy Story's um, okay. Okay, I think for me. Um okay. Ah okay. Uh I'm gonna keep Shrek. Yes. Can't Toy Story. I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I love Shrek. I love Toy Story, but like Shrek was like my era, my generation that I grew up with. Um, and also just the jokes just hit different.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:39

It's the best. See, I I I I love Shrek, but I uh I I was born in '95 with you. I get it, yeah. Yeah. I think it just depends on how it hits you at some point.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:48

Yeah, I think like it's like when you grow up, like your age. Damn graphic.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:52

Yeah. Um, next one. Devil wears parada, meeting girls, legally blonde. Hi girls.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:58

Oh, no, no, no. Okay. I hate this game. Okay. Um, I'm suing both of you. Right. Yeah, nothing. I'm gonna cut. I'm gonna cancel Devil Wears Parada. Sorry, sorry.

SPEAKER_04 1:02:13

Stanley's watching. Especially the new one.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:14

I'm sorry.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:16

I haven't even seen that yet. Um I hadn't had the two.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:19

Um, I'm gonna keep. So, me girls and legally blonde. I'm gonna keep me girls 100%. I mean girls. She doesn't even go here. Yeah, literally, go for you, Glenn Coco, you glow Glenco.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:32

Go, go, Glenn Coco. I love lesbians.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:34

Yeah, literally, and like just sucker on that. Like, it's so good. Like, there's so many quotes from that movie that I just think, and like all the kids. It's like, oh, you suck at MCs, you got nothing on me. From my grains on the line, you can't touch with Kevin D. I'm a mathly. So the nerd is referred, but forget what you heard. I'm like, James beyond the furniture, chicken nuts turned up, Kevin and poor. The G is silent when I walk in the door and make love to a woman on a bathroom floor. I don't play like Shaggy. You know it was me, because the next time it's here, she'll be like, ah, Kevin G. That's enough, that's enough, Kevin. Happy holidays, everyone. We matched that, I love that movie. Sorry, um, and cut the other one. Well, you'll cast it on that. Legally blonde.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:18

Yeah, fuck legally blonde. Legos are so good.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:21

I love the musical more than I love the movie.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:23

Yeah, okay.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:24

So I'm doing it for that.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:26

Okay, so this is a bit more like so in the next one. We have Barbie Oppenheimer June part two.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:35

People are not gonna like this answer.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:38

Come on, Barbie, let's go, Barbie.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:42

Umly because you're gonna hate me. I haven't seen. Is there a June part one?

SPEAKER_04 1:03:47

Yeah. You haven't seen June.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:49

I haven't seen June. I'm sorry. Is it Charlie Theron? I'm sorry, guys. There are so many movies I need to see.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:56

Timothy.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:56

You know what it was? It's because like Wonka put me off like a little bit of Timothy. Oh, you know what? A little bit. Give me that. Yeah. Just a little bit. Where it was like, Chagle, and let's chagle it. I can't stand him. And then I just like I got a little bit. No, but I I got back on him for Marty Supreme. I was like, I rate you for that. But then I had a little break. He tapped Kylie. Yeah. Like, and so yeah, I I I say cancel flip.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:25

This is Oppenheimer Jim Potter.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:27

Cancel Oppenheimer. Uh, sorry. I just don't apologize. I just I I I'm not even gonna give an answer.

SPEAKER_04 1:04:36

Do you know who's gonna love that? Mia. Mia hated Oppenheimer. I brought her to the Oppenheimer, she hated it.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:40

Yeah, I think you know what it was? I think it's like it was just a lot of like atomic bombs, you know. You'd imagine so, yeah. Yeah, yeah. You know, no, no, I I I you know I'm just gonna.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:52

She's dropping bombs right now.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:54

I respected the film craft, I totally respected it. But if I have to pick, like, honestly, gun to my head, okay, cancel Oppenheimer. That means Barbie. Cut June two, part du cut June part two, and keep Barbie. And I know you're gonna say this, but as a girl who grew up with Barbie, um, I like used to play Barbie's for my sisters, and it was such a big part of my childhood. And when that movie came out, I was like, wow, I'm really living my childhood. I like just had so many bangers in there, like Ryan Goslin, like.

SPEAKER_03 1:05:29

Really? Very briefly. Love you, Rob. I know you're my favourite one.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:32

Like, I really enjoyed it, and like all those movies are fantastic. I'm not like saying that movie was bad, and like the others were like Margot rubbed me. Yeah, like for real. Like Jesus, there were so many good movies, and like I think it's hard to pick up those three, but for me, Barbie like was the one that I was like entertained the most. Like I went away like feeling good after that movie. Like, yeah, and what's that saying? It's like uh oh yeah, when I wake up in my own pink world, I get up out of bed and Saying about my homegirls. Hey, Barbie. Hey, I don't know. I don't know the rest of the words. I'm like, and also, um, and a man, uh, a number one, number number two, and then it's like, I'm just Ken. Anywhere else I'd be a ten. It's my destiny to live and die a life of blind fragility. And then like that. So, like, there's so many like And for me, as someone who loves musicals and singing, like terribly out of tune, but like, I I absolutely love like movies with music in it. Like, so that's why I loved In the Heights, Wicked, all that. I I ate those movies up.

SPEAKER_04 1:06:39

What about Into the Woods with James Brother? Oh is that the cat thing? It's awful. No, oh, cats is even worse.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:46

I can't, I can't, I can't. Um could not sit through. I'm sorry.

SPEAKER_04 1:06:51

They got a lot of stick for that, though, didn't they?

SPEAKER_00 1:06:53

It it did. And and I really feel like, because I know like people that were on the VFX of that movie, and like they were like worked to the bones. So I'm not hating on them at all. Oh, it's not. But like subjectively, that movie just wasn't it.

SPEAKER_03 1:07:05

No one wants to say Fermi, furry cordon.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:07

No. With with did they have the buttholes in it?

SPEAKER_03 1:07:11

Let's talk about Jack Corden's butthole. He's just eye contact, and you said Clayton's got a butthole in it. He definitely does. I've been on a stag with him.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:23

Definitely seen it one too many times.

SPEAKER_03 1:07:24

He loves the chocolate starfish. Oh god. I'm not gonna name it. I know where the sun rises in Ireland.

SPEAKER_04 1:07:37

County temporary, baby.

SPEAKER_03 1:07:39

Yeah. Oh fuck. Well, I think we should start to round off, but one of one of the round off is arsehole. Um round off. Oh, come on out. Oh no. Do you need to go to the toilet?

unknown 1:07:53

No.

SPEAKER_03 1:07:54

You sure?

SPEAKER_04 1:07:56

That was really fun.

SPEAKER_03 1:08:03

Sorry. Whoo! Shall I do it? Is there any I can't be talking? I'll do it because you can't keep yourself together, you professional prick. Um, have you got anything up and coming? We did speak about a few things on the phone. I don't know what you can and can't say, but shit.

SPEAKER_00 1:08:21

I don't know if I can drop this. When's this shopping? When's the shopping? Thursday.

SPEAKER_03 1:08:25

It'll be Thursday next week.

SPEAKER_00 1:08:26

This week. If you can't, it's fine, but there's something. The thing is, it's not arriving until Thursday. The thing that I have ordered and bought, it is arriving next week.

SPEAKER_03 1:08:38

Bella does what?

SPEAKER_00 1:08:40

Dot dot dot. Because I I did create a spam account, which is like so random. But I have like a more official second account coming, which is gonna be so left field to what anyone would have expected me to do. Um, so I'm very excited to drop that. Yeah, yeah. Just I don't even know how I can give a hint. You can't. Broom broom!

SPEAKER_03 1:09:03

But yeah, no, but you've got loads of other things coming up, and I can't wait to see you do more. And yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:09:08

No, I'm I'm really excited. I've got so many cool content ideas. I want to like start my long form YouTube. Uh, because I finally hit like you know, nearly 50,000 subscribers on YouTube. I was trying to be so happy about like literally, but it took me back to like when I was 13 and wish for even a thousand subscribers to get even 50 is just insane. Yeah, like I will teach you later. Yeah, please. Um yeah, so yeah, really exciting. Just want to make more videos, maybe, but the main thing is I'm gonna be making a short with my brother and just hopefully then trying to make a feature and hopefully one day be like the next um obsession.

SPEAKER_03 1:09:45

Jesus sucks. They were brothers. The Weinsteins.

SPEAKER_00 1:09:50

Anyway, yes, no, definitely not like that.

SPEAKER_03 1:09:55

You haven't met a brother. No, let's not do that. I didn't want to say Weinstein's been out. Sorry, brother. Let's not end it like that. Sorry, Weinstein. Fucking rotten jail, prick. No apologies.

unknown 1:10:08

I can't stop me.

SPEAKER_03 1:10:10

No, but Ben, I mean, for me and Quillan, it's been such a pleasure talking to you. You can amazing. It's been so good. Genuinely, that was really good. Even if you do want to keep Barbie.

SPEAKER_00 1:10:20

My cheeks are laughing so hard, I swear. That was so good. I feel like we should end it there.

SPEAKER_03 1:10:34

Bella, thank you. Thank you for doing that. Thank you so much for coming on. If you want to check Bella out, do check out her handles. Bella does edit. Fuck Bella does all just fucking check her out. Jesus. Bella, thank you.

SPEAKER_00 1:10:47

Thank you for having me, guys. Real pleasure.