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Welcome back to the podcast. This week Salem is joined by the very talented Anaclerio! They sat down to discuss work goals, living with chronic health issues, their high school experiences, puppet boot camp, learning how to read your concert start time correctly and more!

SPEAKER_00

Let me let me get the let me get the thumbnail of a No, there's the thumbnail for this.

SPEAKER_02

I was about to ask what kind of mic do you guys record on, but I don't even know if you would know.

SPEAKER_00

Uh we she had a lot of different mics, uh, depending on like different things that we did. So there's one time I recorded on a ribbon mic, which I did like, but you had to be really careful with them. Otherwise there was um Yeah, I don't fucking remember any of them. The ribbon mic was like the cool mic. She has like a room mic and a bunch of teeny tiny mics for all the drums and things like that, and like eight, eight so many microphones.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

And I don't know what the fuck. She'd be like, Do you have a preference on what mic we use? And I was like, girl.

SPEAKER_02

The one that'll make me sound cool.

SPEAKER_00

One that'll make me sound nice and normal.

SPEAKER_02

That's fair. I only do this shit. I only know and and hey, barely. You know what I mean? Like we're going. God damn, I forgot to start a timer again. We're going, by the way. I don't like to have, you know, I don't like to have. Yeah. I used to, I used to do the whole uh I just opened my calculator, by the way.

SPEAKER_00

The amount of times I open my calculator instead of either my calendar, the notes app, a clock app, the amount of times I open my calculator and I type in like eight to set an alarm.

SPEAKER_02

I need to know how long I'm gonna go. Let's do eight. Eight in my calculator.

SPEAKER_01

Eight in my calculator.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. Eventually in a minute, I'll minus one and I'll be set.

SPEAKER_00

Exactly. I just have to keep track of here. And then the calculator's really sort of a mental exercise.

SPEAKER_02

Uh yeah, dude, we're going. We're here. How are you?

SPEAKER_01

Uh really tired. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

I heard. What? Okay. Oh, so first of all, it's my good pal, Anna Clario. How are you?

SPEAKER_01

Oh, the camera's there.

SPEAKER_02

The camera's here.

SPEAKER_01

Be looking all the way.

SPEAKER_02

We got this camera.

SPEAKER_00

We got this camera.

SPEAKER_02

That's it.

SPEAKER_00

And we got this camera. And if you want to shout anything out, there's this camera.

SPEAKER_02

This camera. You looking for a close-up? This camera. You're looking right here at this camera, camera one.

SPEAKER_00

Camera one.

SPEAKER_02

Uh, where'd you go last night?

SPEAKER_00

San Francisco to see the beautiful Miss Chrissy Chopeca. Okay. She's a beautiful pink lesbian pop diva who is um living my personal dream of fully self-funding her own tour with dancers and a guitarist and all her own props and costumes and everything, and doing the whole thing herself and like tiny gay bars and also the Crocker Art Museum. Um, and I saw that she was going on tour and I was so envious that I wanted to like throw up. I was like, I'm fuming that someone is living my dream. I have to see her. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

And it was great. We gotta see the vision. Now I've heard I've heard rumblings that you experienced some venue issues.

SPEAKER_01

So I may have just bought the tickets without reading the description.

SPEAKER_04

Oh no. Oh no.

SPEAKER_00

So the ticket said eight. It said 8 p.m. 30 to 2 a.m. And I was like, oh, I think the venue, it's a gay club, so the venue probably just closes at 2 a.m. Right. Like they're just open for business after this. So show starts at 8. I don't know what the 30's there for. That was weird. 8 p.m.

SPEAKER_02

30.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, it's like 8 p.m. 30 or 8 something 30. And I remember being like, that's so strange, but it says eight, so it starts at eight. Like we should get there maybe a little bit earlier because the doors probably open sooner.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

So we get there. The doors aren't open at eight. And in fact, right at eight o'clock, there's cheering inside, and we're like, what the is that about? I guess they're really excited to be starting the show. Yeah. Cool. Then a bunch of people leave.

SPEAKER_02

Yes.

SPEAKER_00

And it turns out that there was a like drag cabaret right beforehand at this gay club. And then they had to set up the stage. And we were like, I look at the tick and I see like the eight something 30. And I'm like, oh, must have been 830 because the doors aren't open yet. Cool. That just means we'll be able to get really close to the front row. And then they separate a bunch of people into a different line. I'm like, what's that about? Like, oh, that's the meet and greet line. And I'm like, the what line? The line for what? There's a meet and greet. And we're like, oh, okay. The meet and greet is before the show starts. Uh and so after a lot of confusion, which the venue staff was like not communicating with each other about what was going on. So as they are to do. Stamped and we're told to go in. And then they were like, no, don't come in. We're only letting meet and greet in. We were like, okay, we go back outside. And then about five minutes later, like, no, now you can go inside. And then there's like a secondary line inside before you enter the main building of this gay club bow in San Francisco. Went there during pride. It was fine. It was fine as a gay club. Um and there's a girl there giving out wristbands. And then no one tells us what to do. And so some people are just walking past her and going in. And then some people are staying in line. So we stand in line because we're confused as to what to do. And then she starts being like, some people like go up to her and like, are we just supposed to go in now? And she's like, Oh, do you have meet and greets? And they're like, No. And she's like, Oh, no, no, no, we're not letting general admission in. They're like, but they just told us to go in from outside. And then she's like, No, no, no. Let me go talk to security. She goes to security. Security is like, because we can hear because it's so small. No, we're let they told me to start letting general admission in. Like, I don't, I don't know. And then like some other guy comes up and is like, no, no, no, we're letting GA in now. And she's like, okay, no one told me that. So we go inside and we're like, wow, this is such a small space. The stage is right here. Let's park up and just hang out. Yeah. The line for the meet and greet keeps getting like longer inside, and we're looking at it. And they they bring Miss Miss Chopeca herself on stage to say hi to people. And she's in like t-shirt, sweatpants, got a little like makeup headband on still. And I'm like, she's comfortable. And then we start thinking, hold on. There's a lot of people in this meet and greet line. There's a lot of people in this meet and greet line. And they announce, like, okay, we're gonna do one minute per person. I know you guys want to say hi, but like in order to make this efficient, we have to do one minute, and then you get a little picture, and then we in order to make this go by quickly, like, so sorry we can't give you more time with her. And we look at the line, we're like, there's at least like 50 to 60 people in this line. So if everybody gets one minute, that's an hour. And she's not like in costume yet. And so we have I've been at this point standing in my deeply uncomfortable high heels for at least an hour.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

And we find a place to sit because I'm tired and I'm pissed off. I'm like, dude, what is going on? Staff doesn't know what's happening. Why is there a meet and greet suddenly? I didn't know that nothing was listed. And I pulled up the listing for the ticket, and it did say at the very bottom of the description that I did not read meet and greet at 8:30, show starts at 10. I was like, Well, so pissed off and so tired because we scrambled through a dinner and barely ate anything, so we could get out as fast as possible to get there in time. I was like, we could have like done anything.

SPEAKER_02

Literally anything else.

SPEAKER_00

We could have done anything else.

SPEAKER_02

Well, was it worth the the close seats you got?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, so that actually is because um they were actually just running a little bit behind when the show started. So they're like, okay, how the openers, uh, three different draft performers go on. And then they were like, Alright, you ready to see like Chrissy? And we're like, Yes! And we like finally stand up after that because I was sitting three openers because I was so tired. And then the announcer is like, I'm being told that we need 10 more minutes.

SPEAKER_04

Yay! Go on.

SPEAKER_00

So then uh everyone was like, Okay, let's go get drinks, let's go to the bath. And I was like, I'm going to the front, I'm going to the front, I'm locking in. Yeah, I'm locking in. Uh, and so I got to be right at the front row, and it was worth it. Let's go.

SPEAKER_02

See, it was worth it.

SPEAKER_00

It was worth it. It was just like unnecessary, but it was worth it.

SPEAKER_02

But at the end of the day, it all worked out.

SPEAKER_00

It was it did all work out, and it was my fault.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, and I think that's the funnest thing about I've had situations like that. Maybe not that crazy, but like the funnest part is when you're live Instagramming.

SPEAKER_00

And then an hour later you can look back and be like, I'm a different person.

SPEAKER_02

I'd like to make a formal apology.

SPEAKER_00

I'd like to make a formal apology to the venue bow in San Francisco for being really pissed off, even though I didn't complain to anybody except for two people on Instagram.

SPEAKER_02

Everyone of my close friends, I've made a severe lapse in judgment.

SPEAKER_00

I've made a severe lapse in judgment. And I just really want you all to know that I've learned and I've grown since then.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

And I'm so sorry I said those things. And if you were her let me let me get the let me get the thumbnail of a no, there's the thumbnail for this.

SPEAKER_02

Uh yeah, we might have to break the ukulele out on that one.

SPEAKER_00

I'm gonna have to break out the ukulele.

SPEAKER_02

I'm so that's crazy though. One minute's really cool. Like, obviously, that's not a ton of time, but like do you go for a minute? Yeah, they always do. Have you ever watched Dracula?

SPEAKER_00

I watched the first season when it first came out a long time ago when it was on Netflix. Yeah. And then I have not tuned in since, which I want to, because it's like all fun. It's so cool. They ate brains in like the first season. I was like, what?

SPEAKER_02

It's so cool.

SPEAKER_00

I I don't want to do that, but this makes it look cool.

SPEAKER_02

It's awesome. They make them like jump out of airplanes and shit instead of like just like lip syncing. No, it's great, it's incredible. They're like, hey, by the way. They don't give a fuck.

SPEAKER_00

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_02

They'll take them on location, like you're swimming with sharks. It's like, okay, we're stabbing you with like every form of needle we can't. Like, it's really bananas. Um, me and Lee are obsessed with it.

SPEAKER_00

They do medical. Heroin?

SPEAKER_02

Heroin, perhaps. Do you want to be here? Yeah. But with they uh a lot of the cast performs at the colonial a lot. Oh yeah, and they actually had uh bunch of cast members we like and the actual boulets at the colonial earlier this year. Oh my instantgrams, yes, I did post about it on my Instagram. I did not have to make an apology for that one. You did not have to make the apology, but I will say, so we saw a couple of our favorites, including Vander Vaughn Aud, who was from the first season. Um, and like the feeling of so you go, and it's the three that we know who are like the main three headliners. And I mean, we you know, we're like first in line, so we go, we're chatting with them, we're taking pictures. It would probably have there for like two or three minutes. It's really cool. Just to the right, and by the way, you like they take professional photos, but they also you can take them on your phone for instant for the Instagrams, obviously. Um we get to the Boulet's, they're like, no fucking phones. You get this professional photo, we'll put on the website, and dude, it's literally like, and no shade to them, but like it's clearly like they've been doing this for a minute because we're like we're like keying with them, and we're like, oh my god, I love you. Like Lee gave them all like a bracelet that he made. Like it's so cute. And then we get to Boulets, and like, stand here and pose. All right, next, and it's like okay, for sure. And I don't think I said I think the closest I got to first of all, did not want to look them in the eye. Fear there was genuine. I walked over and I was like, it was it was genuine. First of all, bluest eyes I've ever seen. Unreal. Unreal people, yeah. I didn't like it. Also, I'm in love with one of them, so I gotta I have to be like, well, I need to represent.

SPEAKER_00

I need to be like the normalest person possible right now, and that does mean being dead silent.

SPEAKER_02

Exactly. Like, I can't say anything crazy. I'm shaving for the Jonas Brothers concert, right? Like, we're ready, could just in case. You know what I mean. You never know.

SPEAKER_00

You never know. You never know what's gonna happen.

SPEAKER_02

They may, and Swanthulubé might do the same for me. You never know. You never know. I've been here before.

SPEAKER_00

I bet you listen, I'm crazy nice.

SPEAKER_02

I I do have a tendency to you would figure someone who yaps as much as I do, um, both for fun and hopefully professionally one day, uh, wouldn't have social anxiety. But the amount of times I've gone up to really cool performers and immediately don't tell them any of the cool shit about me is honestly disgusting.

SPEAKER_00

That's you get beyond me, which is I don't like talk to people.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

I I like I'm social when I'm with like my friends and my family, and we're out and about and we're doing stuff. If I go to the grocery store alone, I'm dead silent.

SPEAKER_02

We're in and out.

SPEAKER_00

I don't look at people. I'll see like cashiers that I know at Trader Joe's, and I'll be like, I can't get in their line. I can't do it. I can't talk to them. I can't fucking do it.

SPEAKER_02

They know me.

SPEAKER_00

They I I embarrassed myself in front of this beautiful lesbian at Trader Joe's. I can't go back there.

SPEAKER_02

You know what though, they have they have a they have a powerful energy to them, the the the beautiful lesbians at Trader Joe's. So I can understand that.

SPEAKER_00

I did I did quite genuinely uh I feel humiliate myself in front of one of the cashiers, and I have had her ring me up multiple times since, and every time I wonder if she thinks about me um in a negative way.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, I thought you were gonna say like late at night.

SPEAKER_00

No, it it was getting close to Halloween. It was like the week of Halloween a few years ago, and I got off work and I had a crazy migraine. Crazy migraine. I didn't want light, I didn't want sound, I didn't want anything, but I did need to eat. So I get off work and I'm like, I have to go. I'm gonna get food, I'm gonna go home, I'm gonna lock myself in a dark room with no noise and just like sit there until the migraine goes away. And I get my item and I get in line, and this very beautiful lesbian is like who do you think I'm dressed as?

SPEAKER_03

Oh no.

SPEAKER_00

And she's wearing like a straw like hat and a floral like Hawaiian shirt and cargo shorts and like whatever clothes-toed shoes she has to have. And I am I can't think straight. When I have a migraine, I may as well be inebriated with like how like difficult it gets to like focus.

SPEAKER_04

And so I look at her and I'm like, no fucking shot.

SPEAKER_00

She goes, No, that's what I always am. She says, I'm Adam Sandler.

SPEAKER_04

Okay, first of all, no, you're not. Where'd the straw hat come into play all that way?

SPEAKER_01

I don't, I don't, I don't know.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. And she's so nice, she's so nice. Yeah. I just every time I see her, I'm like.

SPEAKER_02

I was the one who called you a lesbian when you were Adam Sandler, did you not?

SPEAKER_00

Because I have I I don't know if you know, I have a very recognizable hair.

SPEAKER_02

Yes. You have a very recognizable everything, I think.

SPEAKER_00

I feel like everything about me um is both recognizable in a good way and a bad way, and also it does scream that in middle school I went through a fake scene kid phase.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. I think that's I think that's appropriate.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

And and I don't like to look bad in those case.

SPEAKER_02

And you know what? I feel embarrassed looking bad.

SPEAKER_00

And I feel ashamed, and I want to apologize for being a fake scene kid at the age of 11. I'm sorry I said those things. I'm sorry that I said that I liked Blood on the Dance Floor.

SPEAKER_02

You know what? I feel like you should be sorry if you did or pretend to or not. I feel like just in general, if you've had any exposure to Blood on the Dance Floor, we all need to be sorry.

SPEAKER_00

I think I should be sorry, and I think everyone on Earth also should be sorry for me. And I think we should kill every member of Blood on the Dance Floor for making me live through.

SPEAKER_02

You know, it's funny, we brought it up. One of them actually went on Dracula and is now a professional drag artist. Yeah. The the hate. Don't kill that one. Hey, the the the other one. Don't kill that one. The other one did the good one. Dolly's fine. We actually we got to meet uh meet Dolly at the Colonial. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Okay.

SPEAKER_02

And uh yeah, so survived that whole thing and then said, ah, music's cool for a bit. We're gonna cool out on that. We're gonna cool, we're gonna Yeah, yeah, we'll take a break from there. So you know.

SPEAKER_00

We're gonna take a break, hopefully forever.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. And now and now uh they do drag. And they still do music, but yeah, it's not the one. No that one's gone.

SPEAKER_00

He who shall not be named.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, he who shan't be named.

SPEAKER_00

He who shan't be named with his many crimes against humanity and children.

SPEAKER_02

And children, and specifically fake scene kids in 2008.

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Oh god.

SPEAKER_02

I didn't get to have that though. I feel like I Who was it?

SPEAKER_00

Did you have a phase in middle school? Or was it just like survival?

SPEAKER_02

You know? That's a great question. I think I had the the trans woman experience of like I wasn't really and not even off anyone told me otherwise, but I think just playing the sports I did and it's listen. Oops! It happens, listen.

SPEAKER_01

I'm ruining your beautiful sentimental movement.

SPEAKER_02

No, you're totally fine. Yeah, I know. I'm mid-crying and then I listen back to the audio and it's completely gone. No, that's why oh my god, that's why I can't do handheld mics. I used to do handheld mics, and I gave one too many gay people a handheld mic. And oh my god, you would thought they were driving by on a moped the way they were fucking. So anyway, I fucking continue.

SPEAKER_01

What the fuck was I talking about? Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_02

I feel like because of the sports I played and the people I was around, I didn't even get the language to like figure out or express any queerness. Um and so I had the experience of like I just was like had no confidence and therefore didn't like present myself very well. Like I was very much like uh cargo shorts, Zelda t-shirt, backwards hat. Yes.

SPEAKER_00

Yes. Did you have um like the chunky low-hanging backpack did black? Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Of course, yes, everything I owned was black besides that one Zelda t-shirt that was green. Yeah, yeah. But it was a lot of graphic tees, a lot of slides, and uh yeah, it was tough, you know. I would you know what I will say, I do thank that time in my life because uh I had to learn to be funny. Because And listen, not that attractive people can't be funny, and I wouldn't argue that I'm conventionally attractive now, but I do think I am attractive now.

SPEAKER_01

Good.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. I'm as we should. I'm sure there's gonna be some fucking freak with like a blank profile and their their username's like Tom Brady's.

SPEAKER_00

I personally think you're ugly.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, and I'm like, well, your per your family personally doesn't like you.

SPEAKER_00

Your family personally does not like you.

SPEAKER_02

Your kids personally don't talk to you. You're a fucking loser. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

No. The Trader Joe's employees don't ask you if you know what their costume is.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, when you go to Trader Joe's, Adam Sandler is not fucking with you.

SPEAKER_00

Correction. You don't even go to Trader Joe's. Yeah. You go to Save Mart and you spend too much money on an Apple.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, you spend too much money on an Apple just so you can try and hit on the 16-year-old cashier.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. And you know what? I hate you.

SPEAKER_02

And you know what? I hate you. And I don't want your NoTap apology.

SPEAKER_00

And I don't want it.

SPEAKER_02

I want to hear your name in the papers. Does that mean can we say that? Editor, cut that if we can't.

SPEAKER_01

Editor, you editor.

SPEAKER_02

Me later. Now that's funny. I'm sorry.

SPEAKER_00

I do think that's like such a universal, like weird kid experience or like outlier experience. Although the older I get, the more I'm like, did anybody was anybody not a weird kid in middle school?

SPEAKER_02

Sir, I certainly think so. I think I think kids are fucking weird in general. They're weird. But I certainly think there were like weird behaviors, but it was deemed popular and socially acceptable. Like there were popular kids in high school. Is it you know what I mean? Like, and I and I think popularity too is so strange, because like I wouldn't argue that I was unpopular in high school, but I think I was adaptable because I know how to code switch, you know. Um, you'll see it on this podcast.

SPEAKER_00

I I'm gonna tune in and you're gonna be talking with some like proper English gentleman with like a little a little bit. Oh yeah, the little hat. The monocle.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. Well, it's like when I when I get around gay people, like there's there's certain things that I would like I I had my brother on last week. There's certain things I would never say to him, you know, or even just like the way we interact with each other. It like it it switches. And that was kind of me in high school. So like I played sports and was, you know, on the football team or whatever, but then I was also friends with like all the theater kids and like the band kids, and like it was so universal. I was in dance, I was, you know, so I was like friends with a lot of girls in dance, and it was a weird by the way let me say this let me talk my shit. If there's boy, you know, I was a boy in high school. If there's boys in a dance class unless they're openly gay, which like there's a high probability. But if they're not, like I wasn't, because I'm not, or whatever. Stop asking them if they're gay for taking dance. Because here's my mentality. Because I would get made fun of a lot for taking dance, because it'd be like, that's gay, uh huh. You're taking dance. And my argument was my mornings is me throwing a bunch of girls around and hanging around with a bunch of girls in leggings and tight shirts. And yours is running around really fast with dudes kicking a ball.

SPEAKER_00

Do you know how much insane relationship hookup drama happens in one musical theater production? Do you know how many show relationships start and end between straight men and women in any musical theater production?

SPEAKER_02

We did four weeks of Annie and I saw ten relationships.

SPEAKER_00

Exactly.

SPEAKER_02

We're in Annie of all places. Why are we here?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, no. I I the whole like dances like gay is like, man. Grow up.

SPEAKER_02

For real.

SPEAKER_00

Grow up. Like. I don't even have words to express how much it pisses me off. Just because something is typically done by more women than men does not mean that that is inherently going to become gay. Associating any feminine thing with being gay is insane. Yes. To me. Well, and it's always like sorry, you're you're attracted to women. That's kind of gay. That's kind of gay. There's a lot of women involved in that. And that's kind of a gay thing.

SPEAKER_02

Is it gay to like women?

SPEAKER_00

Is it gay to like women? Sometimes it might be. They kissed other guys. You're basically kissing a guy. You gotta go kiss your guy friends to kiss all the girls that they've kissed instead.

SPEAKER_02

I think it's gayer to like women than it is to kiss your homies at night.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. I kind of think.

SPEAKER_02

That's where we're getting. And you know what? If that's the journey you have to go on to fuck your homie, and I'm here.

SPEAKER_00

Go for it.

SPEAKER_02

I'll hold your hand while you hold his.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, exactly. We can all hold hands together. And at the end of it, something crazy is gonna happen during this musical theater production.

SPEAKER_02

The motion you were doing was, I think, the crazy thing happening. We can all hold each other's hands during this production.

SPEAKER_00

I have to move to the Vatican right now. Immediately. Like we've completely sidetracked from your high school experience.

SPEAKER_02

Oh yeah. But I mean, hey, whatever. I so I always say I try not to have regrets. I'm in that phase of my life. No raggrets. Yeah, no raggrets. I'm trying to be more positive because it's like, you know, I look back on a lot of things and I'm like, oh, this could happen, this could happen. But then first of all, it didn't hey, first of all, didn't happen. Didn't happen. Second of all, not gonna. So it's like I'd rather think of the things that have happened or could happen. Um, but the one thing I will always say, I do think I should have done theater instead of sports. I saw you in a play once.

SPEAKER_00

Have we ever talked about that? What the fuck did you see me in?

SPEAKER_02

I saw you in uh I saw you play Lucy the slut in Avenue Q. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

What you saw that?

SPEAKER_02

I was there. Yeah. I uh I went with a mutual friend of ours because they were like, I want to go see this shit about puppets. And I was like, puppets, that's crazy.

SPEAKER_00

Puppets were crazy.

SPEAKER_02

It was really fun. That show's so fun.

SPEAKER_00

It's very fun. It does have puppets, and if you've never seen it, don't take your kids to see it, please. I showed it to my dad.

SPEAKER_02

I showed my dad, he thought it was funny.

SPEAKER_00

It is funny. That's the thing, is it is funny. Yeah. But it is um very cool to learn puppeteering. We had a two-week like puppet boot camp with a guy. Um why am I blanking on his name? Oh my god, I love him. I'm a fake, I'm a fake puppet fan. My god, a fan of anything. He's a full, full-time like puppeteer. That's his entire job. He makes six figures a year, making, selling, performing, like puppeteers, puppets, yeah, symmetry, all that. And so we had a boot camp with him where for two weeks it was just the puppeteers in the show, because there are a couple of like live human actors, and we learned how to puppeteer. And part of our audition was they gave us all little googly eye fingers that he put here and they made us do Bohemian Rhapsody, and that was how they like picked out who they thought would be good at it. Um, but it is very adult. Yes, there is puppet sex on stage. Yes, there is while singing. Uh and we had uh at least one instance, I think maybe two or three, where people just saw puppets and went, oh my god, let's take the kids. Yes, and they would leave at intermission, which is unfortunately after a lot of really inappropriate stuff has happened.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Um, it's a delightful musical that is uh incredibly relevant still, other than one song that dates it crazy hard.

SPEAKER_02

Because there's everyone's a little, is it's not everyone's a little bit racist. Okay, I still think that rings true.

SPEAKER_00

Uh it does still ring true. Uh I feel uncomfortable saying that as a point person.

SPEAKER_02

It's alright, I can co-sign it.

SPEAKER_00

I need you to co-sign this. Um, but uh there is a song um in which a character is like, oh my god, this guy made me a mixtape. And when that show initially aired, it was a tape, a literal tape. When we did it, it was a CD. And I think if you tried to do it now, there would be people who were like, What is a mixtape at all? Oh. They'd have to change it to he made me a playlist.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, he made me a Spotify rap.

SPEAKER_00

Playlist. He made a playlist.

SPEAKER_02

I don't even remember that. I feel like that show's somehow like not very long, but also seven hours long.

SPEAKER_00

It it feels like eternity, and also it goes by in three seconds when you're performing it. Yeah. Um, especially because it's a uh the cast does a lot of stuff. Like you're either on stage a lot, or if you're like a smaller character like I was, you are also doing like backup vocals or like running around doing stuff.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Cleaning your puppet, cleaning your hands. Not cleaning your puppet, but cleaning your hands so you don't put dirty hands in the puppet.

SPEAKER_02

Throwing your puppet in the washer. Grabbing a spare puppet.

SPEAKER_00

Grabbing the spare puppet, washer, dryer, brush that thing out, throw it on stage real quick. No biggie. No biggie.

SPEAKER_02

We're back before the second act.

SPEAKER_00

Art. His name is Art.

SPEAKER_02

There you go.

SPEAKER_00

I feel peace in my soul. I can die now.

SPEAKER_02

Now you're a real puppet fan.

SPEAKER_00

I'm a real puppet fan again because I remember Art's name. This everyone who's ever done puppeteering knows what I'm talking about.

unknown

They have no idea what the fuck is fucking.

SPEAKER_02

It's fine. Nobody's everyone's clicked off when I started talking about high school.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, I feel like my high school experience was my middle school and high school experiences were strange for many reasons.

SPEAKER_02

We didn't go to the same high school, right?

SPEAKER_00

No.

SPEAKER_02

I don't think so. Okay. I to be fair, there's like like 40 gay people in Sacramento, and they all are in like extended polycules of some form or the other.

SPEAKER_00

Dude.

SPEAKER_02

And like I either we either know all of them or Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

And it's like, how do you I'm so impressed by their scheduling skills. I'm so impressed by their scheduling skills. Genuinely phenomenal. And you should all be putting that on your resume. Yeah. That's crazy.

SPEAKER_02

I think I think that should be a valid uh thing you can bring up in an interview. It's like I have an extended like like five-person poly kill on your life.

SPEAKER_00

We do see each other regularly.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. I can manage that schedule. Hire me right now for this job.

SPEAKER_02

They're starting you off at 25 an hour.

SPEAKER_00

They're starting you off at 25. They're starting off at 30 an hour if you're good enough about it.

SPEAKER_02

You did three dates last week.

SPEAKER_00

That's crazy.

SPEAKER_02

That's crazy.

SPEAKER_00

And you work.

SPEAKER_02

You're a project manager.

SPEAKER_00

You're a project manager. And you know what? We're paying you 85k a year to manage this project.

SPEAKER_02

If only.

SPEAKER_00

God knows. But my high school experience was strange in that I was a musical theater kid, the only one of the only out queer people at my entire entire high school. Um, which is a strange, strange experience because I went to a high school that had 800 people, which is small for the area. Most high schools have like 1500, 2,000.

SPEAKER_02

My graduating class was like almost 4,000 people.

SPEAKER_00

How the fuck did you go to high school?

SPEAKER_02

The only high school in West Sacramento.

SPEAKER_00

Oh.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. It's an entire city.

SPEAKER_02

So we had one high school. One, yeah. You're all coming.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, no, my high school is 800 people about.

SPEAKER_03

Jesus.

SPEAKER_00

Uh which does make it way more devastating when they get your you get your like report cards part way through the year to show you where you're ranking in the class, and it says like 161, and you're like, cool. There's only 200 people in the club. But I was I was in band. I was out and queer. But I also uh had like a I don't know if I'd call it really code switching, but I would just like match the personalities of the people around me because I didn't have a concept of who I really was as a person.

SPEAKER_02

That's I would agree. That's how I felt.

SPEAKER_00

I was like a little chameleon.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. And then I I left high school, and then a lot of stuff happened, and now I'm here and I'm a person.

SPEAKER_02

And now we made it.

SPEAKER_00

And that's my entire life story.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. And sometimes that's not even true.

SPEAKER_00

I came out the pussy, I went to high school, now I'm here.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. Shot right out. Doctor said, uh, you got third period gym.

SPEAKER_00

You got third period gym.

SPEAKER_02

Graduated. Graduated. Now we came straight to this podcast.

SPEAKER_00

Yes. And I actually did no character development in that time. I just manifested a personality.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Uh, but now when I look back on high school, I'm like, God, what the fuck was that?

SPEAKER_02

It really feels too the worst part about high school is it really at the time feels like it is the most important thing that's ever going to happen.

SPEAKER_00

High school does not matter at all once you get out. They're like, your grades are so important. My school was a specific college prep school. We were really heavily pushing AP classes to like get those college credits out of the way early and pass your AP tests. And like, like one of the kids at my high school got a half a million dollar scholarship to go to um like Navy college or like Marines College. Like they paid a lot of money. Was it half a million or was it 250,000? It was a lot of money. It was a huge scholarship. Um, like essentially beyond full ride to go to college for the military. There's like a specific one, I don't remember. But I wasn't good at academics. I'm not gonna say I wasn't smart because that is not true. I just wasn't good at academics.

SPEAKER_02

Thank you.

SPEAKER_00

Different things. Um so like leaving high school or be being in high school and having them be like, college is so important. And if you don't get good grades in high school, you're actually gonna get mocked and made fun of and murdered as soon as you step foot on a college campus. And what's so crazy about that is that I went to city college for a semester and I was like, no one cares here.

SPEAKER_02

No.

SPEAKER_00

My high school was like really strict dress code. You would get dress coded in the hallways. Yeah, and they like they would call the one female hall monitor down to send your ass to detention. And then I get to college and like there's a girl in cookie monster pajamas, and then another girl who's wear who's got like full cleavage and booty shorts, and we're all in the same class, and no one cares. They don't care. As soon as you leave high school, if you're at any college after that, your grades from high school don't matter. What are you submitting them for? Yeah, we don't care.

SPEAKER_02

They don't care.

SPEAKER_00

What? They care about the application, we don't care about the high school grades.

SPEAKER_02

Are you gonna give us money and then be here? Or don't.

SPEAKER_00

Are you gonna give us money and leave?

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. Truly we don't care.

SPEAKER_00

Take the money.

SPEAKER_02

That first part's really what we're looking for.

SPEAKER_00

They're really just looking for money.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Exactly.

SPEAKER_02

My transcripts were actually just uh a bunch of scribbles and a $20 bill. Yeah, and they let me into college, dude. That's crazy. I did. I went to college for two days. I went to Art Institute. Listen, I didn't know. I didn't know yet. And they got me. They showed up. My the guy who showed me around campus looked like Littlefinger from Game of Thrones. I said, that's interesting.

SPEAKER_00

That's interesting.

SPEAKER_02

I said, that's interesting.

SPEAKER_00

I said that's interesting.

SPEAKER_02

And they showed me a bunch of cameras that I could rent and a green screen room, and I said, That's it.

SPEAKER_00

That's all I need.

SPEAKER_02

They must be from here.

SPEAKER_00

They they must be good.

SPEAKER_02

Scorsese was just here.

SPEAKER_00

He was just here.

SPEAKER_02

I don't know if you heard. He was giving a lecture down the hallway. And so I thought, this is the big break. Is this for-profit this for-profit college. For profit college that won't transfer my credits if I won't transfer your credits if you leave. And uh I went to Photoshop first day, and I found out the teacher was not a like a credentialed teacher, but just like a lady who used Photoshop. And I was like, this is kind of crazy, but I guess I learned something, which was I learned how to cut out a picture of a shark.

SPEAKER_00

That's the only skill you need in the industry, dude.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, and I thought this is $96,000. Exactly. And you're good. Well, that was what that was what was under the $20 bill instead of the script.

SPEAKER_00

It was the picture of the shark.

SPEAKER_02

It was the picture of the shark. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

So that's what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_02

I did a die cut. It was crazy.

SPEAKER_01

That's crazy.

SPEAKER_02

Um, day one, too. Wow. Uh and then the second day I was supposed to go. Uh my 1996 Honda Civic was broken into, and I went, I can't go to college. I need a job to fix my 1996 Honda Civics window that got broken so someone could steal my JBL speaker because I didn't have speakers in my 1996 Honda Civic.

SPEAKER_00

You just had the speaker in the cup holder.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, I did, and I left it because it was late one night and I forgot to bring it in. Um, and someone smashed the windows, and I said, Well, certainly can't go to school anymore.

SPEAKER_00

No.

SPEAKER_02

That's $96,000. Yeah. Windows gonna be at least five.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. Window's gonna be at least five.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, and so uh I I just didn't go and never did anything about it. Well, thank God you didn't.

SPEAKER_00

That's a s our institute's a scam. Yeah. A full scam.

SPEAKER_02

I'd say it was worth it because I got a lacy rugged out of it.

SPEAKER_00

I mean, really, all you need to know is how to die cut the shark.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, and we did. We're here.

SPEAKER_00

That's it. We're here.

SPEAKER_02

You could I'll I I could show you right now a die cut a shark.

SPEAKER_00

Dude. Well, you didn't even need to go to school for that. You could have gone on YouTube.com.

SPEAKER_02

I could have gone on YouTube.com.

SPEAKER_00

That's the real scam. You could have gone on YouTube.com.

SPEAKER_02

And arguably you can say that about any course that they offer.

SPEAKER_00

Yes.

SPEAKER_02

At Art Institute. Yes.

SPEAKER_00

You can just go on YouTube.com and watch a very nice woman in her 60s show you how to paint a flower. It's great.

SPEAKER_02

I should have known Art Institute was a scam when I went into the student break room area and they had venom energy drinks for $2. Pardon?

SPEAKER_03

What?

SPEAKER_02

They used to pay me to take those. I used to show the local corner store. He said, here's 50 cents. Get these the fuck out of here.

SPEAKER_01

Please take them. Please take them.

SPEAKER_02

I want to he goes, I'll give you a dollar just to see what happens to your body when you drink this.

SPEAKER_00

You do turn into venom, to be clear. That's what happened.

SPEAKER_02

They call it venom because the sludge that he's made of is inside.

SPEAKER_00

Exactly.

SPEAKER_02

This actually has the symbiote in it.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. And you know what? Pass me a glass, brother.

SPEAKER_02

Sometimes you're ripping a black cherry venom?

SPEAKER_00

Hell no. Solely for the alien.

SPEAKER_02

Ripping a we're ripping a Nyquil flavored energy drink? Come on.

SPEAKER_00

I um I so I you know this. I work at a coffee shop.

SPEAKER_02

Yes.

SPEAKER_00

I can't have caffeine.

SPEAKER_02

I was gonna ask, by the way, so um almost used your shoot name on accident. It's whatever. Uh you do you have a sorry, sorry to get off track. Do you have a do you have like a shortened version of your name?

SPEAKER_00

Anna Clario?

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, or is it always?

SPEAKER_00

You just gotta commit.

SPEAKER_02

You gotta commit to the thing. And you know what that's fair.

SPEAKER_00

Don't call me Anna. No. That's weird.

SPEAKER_02

I figured that wasn't the one.

SPEAKER_00

If you call if you said like Clary, I would think you were talking about Queen Clarion from the Tinkerbell series.

SPEAKER_02

Right.

SPEAKER_00

Um, and if you said maybe Eo, I would think you were talking about potentially some kind of Pixar alien.

SPEAKER_02

Right.

SPEAKER_00

Uh but no, it's just Anna Clarion.

SPEAKER_02

And we're gonna talk about all that later off camera.

SPEAKER_00

And we won't we will be going into detail.

SPEAKER_02

And we're gonna pick we're gonna figure out sort of we're gonna figure out sort of where that came from.

SPEAKER_00

We're gonna figure out where that's all rooted in.

SPEAKER_02

But um no, yeah, you like uh to put it lightly, is keep it fun on the podcast. You like die all the time. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_01

I think that's the podcast.

SPEAKER_02

I think every let's take a break.

SPEAKER_01

And we're back in spot.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, I think every time I see you, you're either like night on the town, oops, exploded.

SPEAKER_01

Blewed up. Blued up.

SPEAKER_02

Um you're in my doorway in the middle of the night going, I blew up.

SPEAKER_00

I I blew up. Uh yeah, I literally I'm in like so much pain today because I went to a concert last night.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. Uh but in fairness, whose fault was that?

SPEAKER_00

Um not mine. It's so weird how like someone held a gun to my head and made me buy a ticket.

SPEAKER_02

Put me in there? They've made me buy a ticket and not read it.

SPEAKER_00

In my car and forced me to drive to San Francisco.

SPEAKER_02

You actually went to look at the time for the meet and greet, and they went, uh-uh.

unknown

No, no, no, no, no.

SPEAKER_02

Eyes up, eyes up here.

SPEAKER_00

One, two, three, eyes on me, please. No, I saw I uh I have a connective tissue disorder called hypermobile Ellers Danlow syndrome, uh, which is a fancy way of sending sending mail.

SPEAKER_02

Let's try it again.

SPEAKER_00

And that's it.

SPEAKER_02

It's actually uh every time I get a flare-up, I walk down to the mailbox and I look at a couple stamps, and here we are.

SPEAKER_00

And that's it. That's it. It's involuntary and I don't remember it afterwards.

SPEAKER_02

Some people have gotten shit from me, and I have no idea what's going on.

unknown

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Um no, it's a it's a fancy way of saying that I have uh loose joints and too bendy.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

I am medically not supposed to stretch because I may make things that are not currently backwards go backwards. If you're listening to this, just picture my hands and all that didn't help me to crack my knuckles in the mic. Oh god. Uh just know that there my fingers are bending backwards at a 90 degree angle, and that is my normal range of motion.

SPEAKER_02

Gotcha. I don't think that is mine. It certainly isn't.

SPEAKER_00

No, and it shouldn't be.

SPEAKER_02

No.

SPEAKER_00

It shouldn't, it should not be. Um and what that entails is that your joints are too loose because your connective tissue is uh screwed up because your collagen is messed up, so your connective tissue is too loose and not strong enough to hold everything in place. Your muscles then have to overcompensate and clench like constantly to hold things in so you don't dislocate. Aoi been to the ER a few times, and every time I go, they're like, That's crazy.

SPEAKER_02

That's crazy that you didn't.

SPEAKER_00

I'm so sorry. Do you want to do Norco about it? And I say no. And they go, dude, I can't help you.

SPEAKER_02

They go, dude, why wouldn't you explain?

SPEAKER_00

I say, I drove here, and they said, What?

SPEAKER_02

I said, You don't have to.

SPEAKER_00

Um, but so part of that is that it comes with a lot of stacking problems that affect you every single day, like chronic fatigue because your body's working overtime all the time. So you have diagnosed disease if you are tired forever.

SPEAKER_03

All day.

SPEAKER_00

No matter how much you sleep, you're still tired. And also chronic pain, which for me is a lot of like inflammation of either my joints or my muscles hurt because they're working so hard all the time to hold me together.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Uh which means that when I work all day at the coffee shop where I uh haul milk around and serve people beverages on my footsies and tootsies all day. I go out a lot. Big owie, big hours.

SPEAKER_02

Big hours.

SPEAKER_00

Not a fan.

SPEAKER_02

But you're still here.

SPEAKER_00

And I am still here. And I am still vertical.

SPEAKER_02

You are still vertical.

SPEAKER_00

And we're making that happen.

SPEAKER_02

We're we're being true about it. And that goes to show you how intense this podcast is.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. We're being so real about the fact that I am not dead yet.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

And we're not gonna hide that from you.

SPEAKER_02

We're never gonna, and you know what? We're never gonna let that affect you.

SPEAKER_00

We're never gonna let that get in the way of our relationship with you and the kids. Uh but yeah, so I am uh I don't think I've talked to you about this. I'm gonna go back to school full time for what? In the fall, because I want to become a certified paralegal so I can sit down. Let's go. I would love to sit down more.

SPEAKER_02

Now what now, now, okay, what you just said, right? Hypothetically, explain that to me as if we're speaking purely hypothetical. I had no fucking idea what that entailed.

SPEAKER_00

Just as a hypothetical, a paralegal is somebody who uh works with parrots in a legal manner.

SPEAKER_02

I was gonna I I didn't want to interrupt you, but I was gonna say paralegal what?

SPEAKER_01

Paralegal what paralegal poly want a crack.

SPEAKER_00

Uh no, paralegals do like research and document preparation for the courts. So you work for a law firm doing research for cases of whatever variety, um, and you prepare your documents to submit to the court and you read a lot of stuff and do a lot of paperwork. And I like paperwork because I'm fucking sick and twisted.

SPEAKER_02

You wouldn't because you wouldn't understand.

SPEAKER_00

I'm a twisted fucking psychopath. Put a bicycle on me.

SPEAKER_02

What the fuck does that mean? And you know I've always said I'm so sick and twisted, put a bicycle on me.

SPEAKER_01

I'm a twisted, I'm a twisted fucking cycle path. Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_02

I truly thought bicycle came out of nowhere. I was like, holy shit, dude. You would not in uh survive in the fucking Peloton factory and you crazed me. Holy shit. We're here. We're breathing. The flare up starting. Motherfucker's about to start sending letters like crazy.

SPEAKER_01

I can't speak if I'm giggling. If I'm goofing a gap in the wheel.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. Oh man. Well, that's fun though.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

That'll be cool.

SPEAKER_00

I'm excited. My mom was a lawyer, so I have

SPEAKER_02

Ties to the industry.

SPEAKER_00

Basically already professional.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

I basically already know the law.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. My mom was a lawyer once, so I basically invented the law.

SPEAKER_00

I'm oil a wedding.

SPEAKER_02

Hey, if you invented law, you're in a real bad job right now. We gotta add a thing to the docket after this.

SPEAKER_01

I need to go fix a lot of things actually really quickly.

SPEAKER_02

I feel you, I I also just somewhat um I I have a like a desk job now, kind of. It's I'm in charge of a lot. Yeah, I'm the I won't say fully what it is because I don't know what the vibes are from the I don't know what the vibes are from the the community, but uh I run a very a very largely growing uh like a s an online selling gimmick.

SPEAKER_00

I don't even want to put what field it's in because I will I don't say what field it is in for like privacy or whatever. I don't want you to say what field it's in because I'm choosing to believe you explicitly are retailing sex toys on the internet, and that's all you're doing.

SPEAKER_02

I thought we weren't saying what I did.

SPEAKER_00

I am choosing to believe that you are hawking dildos left and right on the day. Yeah, and that's my personal belief.

SPEAKER_02

And I'm hawking to a and is that still a thing? Do you guys still like that?

SPEAKER_00

I'm I don't know. I'm not a youth.

SPEAKER_02

I'm not one of them youths.

SPEAKER_00

I'm not a youth. To my 19-year-old coworker, I'm unk.

SPEAKER_02

I'm sure unknown. I'm fucking unk. Well, how do you think I feel? One of my employees is my 17-year-old brother. And the amount of times I have to give him real data on something very important, and I accidentally say the numbers six and seven in in order.

SPEAKER_01

It's yeah, it's a curse.

SPEAKER_02

I have to say six, seven, get that, and then I have to text my HR manager, go, what are the logistics of me killing an employee?

SPEAKER_00

What are the logistics of me killing an employee? I it is uh I I'm so glad that youth have their fun number to like latch on to, but also it it is a curse now. Instead of feeling cursed every time I had to read a total back to somebody at the register of $4.20. Now anytime it's like $7.67, I have to like go through the like five stages of grief really quick.

SPEAKER_04

I have to start digging out old letters.

SPEAKER_00

I have to start digging out old letters. I have to make apologies to people I haven't spoken to in 10 years, and I also still have to give the man his change back because he's like 80 years old and wants his coffee.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

He doesn't understand what I'm going with.

SPEAKER_02

I had to hand so I had to hand a teenage employee $67 the other day, and all of a sudden I had to touch three things to remind myself that I was here.

SPEAKER_00

I had to list five things I could see, four things I can hear, three things I can feel, three things I can smell. One thing I could taste, I guess.

SPEAKER_02

I guess.

SPEAKER_00

Just start licking, licking the never mind. No, which I was gonna say start licking the tiltes, but that's like a function.

SPEAKER_02

That is actually an action.

SPEAKER_00

I've just in this moment decided that I actually can't tell my parents I'm doing this.

SPEAKER_02

No one's allowed to know. We actually have to delete the whole episode. We're not doing that. The worst part is I know everyone I know is gonna watch this. My whole family's gonna watch this and be like, yeah, I thought it was fun. I didn't like the part where uh the other gay one was talking about looking dildos, and I'd be like, listen, that's just what it's like.

SPEAKER_00

I'd like to formally apologize.

SPEAKER_02

You know the extra funny, and it could still go this route, but the last episode, there's like 30 minutes of me and my brother being like deep introspective and being like, creating memories are the one thing that we own. So when you're around the people you love, create those memories because that's something you can never take away. And you're like, I'm sending letters and licking dildos.

SPEAKER_00

I'm actually I'm creating memories for you.

SPEAKER_02

You know what is true. Hey, but you know what? You're not wrong. This is will be uh always I'll I'll go. Hey, remember the time you you said that uh you you thought I sold dildos from a from a factory. Yeah. I'm clocked in and over at the pocket pussy factory.

SPEAKER_00

You clocked the fuck in. You're putting the change in the pocket pussy for them to retrieve at the checkout.

SPEAKER_02

Checkout.

SPEAKER_00

And guess how many 67 cents of check?

SPEAKER_02

Thank you. You got there first, you son of a bitch. All right. Anna Clario.

SPEAKER_00

Yes.

SPEAKER_02

We have I have a question for you. Okay. We were brief everyone's briefed on this. I don't like to lie on this show. Right? I don't like to some shows I feel like they do.

SPEAKER_00

I feel this says a lot about me as a person. Was that I just went through and was like, did I lie about anything today? Have I? Not because I'm a lying liar who lies, but because I I have OCD.

SPEAKER_02

I'm giving myself compulsive thoughts that I actually did lie and I don't remember.

SPEAKER_00

That's quite genuinely. That is like such a common thing with OCD. Is like, what if I actually am a bad person? I've been lying the whole time and I forgot.

SPEAKER_02

And I just forgot and I couldn't remember.

SPEAKER_00

I forgot about it. I couldn't remember. I did a job interview that I did not want the job for, just for experience for interviewing. And they're like, Oh, there will be a background check. So if there's anything you need to tell us, tell us now. And I sat there and I was like, Did I commit arson and forget?

SPEAKER_02

Like, I think I killed all those guys.

SPEAKER_00

Did I accidentally commit vehicular manslaughter and then black it out from my memory? Anyways, you were gonna ask me a question.

SPEAKER_02

I think the unfortunate truth is there was ricin in all those letters you were sending when you had your flaros. Sorry, I love a callback. Um, yes, a question for you. Yeah, speaking of not lying, I I prepped the guess on this question because I, if someone asked me this question unprompted, I think I'd throw up.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

And I know how all you freaks are.

SPEAKER_00

If you ask me anything unprompted, I may throw up.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, that was a crazy get for this show then. It sort of was all unprompted except for this part. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Really did a good job.

SPEAKER_00

It seemed miraculous.

SPEAKER_02

Um trying to bring a little more positivity to the pod.

SPEAKER_00

To the pod.

SPEAKER_02

And also just experience new things.

SPEAKER_00

Was my accusations of you working at a dildo factory that your family's gonna watch not positive enough for you?

SPEAKER_02

You know, it was just positive enough. And I think now everything we do is just a little extra cherry on top.

SPEAKER_00

Phenomenal.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, no. My my grandparents are sitting at home clapping right now, and now they're waiting for the encore. Uh the dildo part was sort of the peak.

SPEAKER_01

I would like to formally apologize.

SPEAKER_02

If anything I've said about the dildo factory has affected you.

SPEAKER_01

Any grandparents watching this?

SPEAKER_00

Just know that I feel ashamed in my soul every day when I wake up.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

And it's all been for this.

SPEAKER_02

It's all been for this, and it'll all be immortalized forever.

SPEAKER_00

That's the reason I felt anxious my whole life is because I knew that someday I was gonna be here.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. Does it feel like a weight came off your shoulders?

SPEAKER_00

It feels perhaps like I have become Atlas holding up the sky.

SPEAKER_02

Become Atlas holding up a dildo from the dildo factory.

SPEAKER_00

Where you where I work.

SPEAKER_02

In case, mind you.

SPEAKER_01

I need you to ask this question.

SPEAKER_02

What is something that you feel is underrated? It could be a piece of media, it could be a way of life.

SPEAKER_00

You can stop talking.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, you have it. Yeah, you were the only person who, when I asked you that prepping for this, you went slay. I already know.

SPEAKER_00

This is welcome to my TED Talk. You're all trapped in here with me now. I'm so sorry. This is my uh demand, not a request, that you watch Welcome to Demon School Irma Coon, one of the greatest animes that is coming out at this moment. Season four, starting next month, I believe. Um, it is a super cute anime by a wonderful mangaka who also did Ichi the Witch and is doing Ichi the Witch. They're both still actively coming out as manga. It is about a little boy named Irma. He is 14 years old. He has lived his entire life not being able to say no to people and being a very helpful little guy to his parents. He does all the cleaning and all the cooking and all of the manual labor and all of the he doesn't go to school because he's too busy helping his parents. And because his parents are such wonderful people, they sell him to a demon who is uh decided that he wants a grandson. Skipped kids, he said, I want a grandson. I'm buying this boy and enlisting him in demon high school. Uh also, by the way, in the demon realm, humans are a mythical creature that doesn't actually exist, but if they did exist, demons do eat them as a delicacy.

SPEAKER_02

Right.

SPEAKER_00

Uh so he says, I've just purchased you. You are my my grandson. I'm showering you with gifts and love and affection in your big giant room, and I'm gonna cook food for you every single day, and it's gonna be great and wonderful. Go to Demon High School, where you're surrounded by literal demons. Here's some cologne that'll make you smell not like a human. Have fun.

SPEAKER_02

Have fun, bye.

SPEAKER_00

Um, and it is phenomenal. Um it has a surprising amount of like character building going on to it. I just started season three, uh, and I every every episode I watch, I like am like, God, it can't keep doing this to me. It can't keep doing this to me.

SPEAKER_04

He can't keep getting away with it.

SPEAKER_00

On on his uh first day of school, this is all within the first episode, so I'm not spoiling, I'm just trying to I'm trying to grab you. Yeah, there's a daily win. I'm trying to hook you without getting like way too excited about it and scaring you away, like I did my entire childhood to all my friends, uh, by altering my personality for them. Um the first episode he uh accidentally gets in a fight with one of the most powerful first years entering the school possible, who is from a very well-known demon family, Asmodeus, uh, who has fire magic and could burn him to a crisp. Irma has a wonderful skill where he he will involuntarily avoid any mortal damage. He he will dodge any bodily harm against his will. And as part of doing that, he accidentally bodies this man, and when he comes out of being bodied, this guy goes, You beat me in a fight. I live my life for you and you only, and you're all that matters to me now. Did someone look at you wrong? I'll kill them. Do you want that? No? Cool, okay. Just know that I will. Like he he now has essentially like a he's just earned himself like a boyfriend pretty much.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

A fire-wielding, incredibly powerful demon who uh loves him with all his heart and is willing to do anything for his best friend in the whole world. And it is so cute. If you like uh Boku no Hoku Macadamia, Bin Ha. If you like that, I think you will enjoy this, even though I have not watched Bin Ha. It just gives really similar like they're all in a high school with special abilities together vibes, so it has one thing in common, pretty much, and I'm saying it's the same thing. It's not. Um, it is a wonderful mix of like funny and that has some serious moments, but it is a a feel-good kind of watching show. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Uh where you you know that things are gonna work out, but like how yeah, but like how are we gonna get there?

SPEAKER_00

I think that's like a lot of shows, but this one's different and special because I like it a lot.

SPEAKER_02

But this one's my fave, so it's like the better one.

SPEAKER_00

This one's my favorite, and I really, really enjoy it. The animation is very like just enjoyable to watch. It's not like incredibly like beautiful, stunning, cunty animation, but it just looks nice. Yeah, it's polished, it's good, it's got good budget, it's got a banger soundtrack. For no reason. The intro song is like a hit that I need them to put on at the club. I feel like I'm I sound like every I feel like I sound like someone describing literally any anime. If you've never watched an anime.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, kind of.

SPEAKER_00

I feel like right now you could just replace Ira Makoon with Naruto.

SPEAKER_02

I was gonna say, this sounds like me describing JJK.

SPEAKER_00

I'm coming to realize there's a lot of shows about teenagers with special abilities growing as people as a class.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

But this one's different. But this one's different because I like it. I like it.

SPEAKER_02

And I said it's good.

SPEAKER_00

I love it so much. It brings me so much joy, and I am reaching the point of wanting to hold my friends at gunpoint to make them watch it. It's really good, and I need people to talk to me about it because I'm insane.

SPEAKER_02

I'll watch it. I that's hey, you you locked me in because now there's footage. Camera one, it's here.

SPEAKER_00

And camera one, can we also get that on camera?

SPEAKER_02

And camera one, and can we also get that on camera one?

SPEAKER_00

And can we also get that on camera one?

SPEAKER_02

Can we check that in? Close up, close up, camera one.

SPEAKER_00

Lock this in. Please go. What's the name of it again? Welcome to Demon School Era McCoon. It is on Crunchyroll.

SPEAKER_02

I do have that.

SPEAKER_00

Uh, you can watch it in subtitles or dub titles. I don't go to dub titles.

SPEAKER_02

Are you a purist?

SPEAKER_00

Uh only for uh I will watch dub, but only for specific anime, which is uh fairy tale and black butler. Yeah. I think you just have to culturally experience those in the dub. Oran High School Host Club is also acceptable to watch in the dub. Otherwise, I just like subtitles better. I watch them with both. I also I appreciate that it makes you pay attention. You can't second screen that stuff.

SPEAKER_02

No, I but I watch I watch the dub with subtitles because I just can't hear.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

So we're in it. There's they're speaking English.

SPEAKER_00

There's actually no sound coming out, by the way. You're gonna look back to the audience.

SPEAKER_02

You guys can't see down here. There's one of the things you get at the movies. Yeah, the assisted listening device, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

The assisted listening device. We love accessibility.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, we do get those more. I think, and though people get all fucking mad, I think most theaters should have at least one or two subtitle showings, like hardlock subtitle showings per day. Or per week at least. Get them on the weekends.

SPEAKER_00

This is actually something that in my Deaf Culture class we talked about, uh, which is that uh there have been uh at least one instance where they accidentally advertised a like a big movie coming out with captions, and so many people showed up to it that they were like, oh, I guess we should just do this now. Because they only ever run them at weird times of day, and this one was at like a normal time to watch. Like who at 3 p.m. on a Tuesday who holds a job is going to see a closed caption movie?

SPEAKER_02

That'll be me seeing Spider-Man.

SPEAKER_00

It's just me alone in the theater.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

That's me in the corner. That's me in the cinema. Mark watching Spider-Man.

SPEAKER_02

Thank you. I'm glad I'm glad I've waited for you to land the plane on that.

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Thanks.

SPEAKER_00

Uh but yeah, I like I like Welcome to Demon School Irma Coon very, very, very much.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. Watch it.

SPEAKER_00

Watch it.

SPEAKER_02

And if you don't report back, we'll know.

SPEAKER_00

You know what? If you to the to the grandparents, if you don't report back, I'm coming to haunt your dreams with that factory that produces things I will not do anymore because I feel too bad.

SPEAKER_02

You don't want to say it now while we're pointing. When we're pointing at my grandparents through camera one.

SPEAKER_01

So grandpa I was gonna say grandma one.

SPEAKER_02

Grandma one. And can we get a close-up with grandma one?

SPEAKER_01

Can we get a close up with grandma?

SPEAKER_02

Let's get a wide shot with grandpa one. Holy shit, dude.

SPEAKER_01

I need to go anywhere.

SPEAKER_02

Well, you know what? It's a perfect time. And Clario, thank you so much for coming on the pod after uh fighting in the last couple wars, I believe. Yeah. From your experience yesterday. Yeah. From what I saw on Instagram's close friend story.

SPEAKER_00

Fighting in the war of the ability to read a ticket description on internet.

SPEAKER_02

And it's a war we all fought. Sometimes we lose.

SPEAKER_00

We all remember when the ticket towers fell.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. God. Oh man. Okay. Oh, that almost made me say holy cow.

SPEAKER_03

Holy cow, you're rabbit!

SPEAKER_02

Holy shit. Well, I hope you guys had fun. Wait, where can people find you?

SPEAKER_00

Um I was about to be like this chair. Right here. In this chair.

SPEAKER_02

You can find me at the factory.

SPEAKER_00

You can find me at the factory. You can find me on YouTube.com making my 15th apology of the day. Um, no, I'm on Instagram currently as Prince Kate Cosplay. Someday I'll change it over.

SPEAKER_02

One day.

SPEAKER_00

You can find my one single song on Spotify under Anna Clario, which is uh Deseedent Deceased. Someday, if you're lucky, I'll put out at least one more.

SPEAKER_02

We'll have that up to number two.

SPEAKER_00

We'll have it up to two, and you'll all be so glad you were here for the start.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. You also stream on Twitch.

SPEAKER_00

Oh my god, I forgot I do that. Yeah. I do. I stream on Twitch at Prince Cake.

SPEAKER_02

If you like Animal Crossing and only that.

SPEAKER_00

Because I get scared easy.

SPEAKER_02

Dude, I'll be so fun. I want to be there for that.

SPEAKER_00

I get scared very, very easily.

SPEAKER_02

Dude, we should stream together something.

SPEAKER_00

I got we should. I got I got my hair in my earring. I'm not gonna fix that. We're gonna live. You have to be really nice to me about it. I got uh stressed out and scared playing um.

SPEAKER_02

Find it. GeoGuzzer.

SPEAKER_01

I I wanted to say map quest so badly.

SPEAKER_02

The top oh wow, what a journey that was. The top 15 scariest games you'll ever play.

SPEAKER_00

I'm really stressed out playing GeoGuesser because it went into a timed mode that I didn't know existed. Where somebody was like, you need to place this on a map in 15 seconds.

SPEAKER_04

And I was like, I don't know why I don't know where maps are.

SPEAKER_00

I got scared. I'm really bad at geography and it scared me. So I think I should play Resident Evil 9.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, hey, I played it, it's scary as fuck. So I'm sober. I'm excited to watch you play it. I should have streamed it.

SPEAKER_00

You should have streamed it.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. But yeah, when I see you in six months, we should stream together.

SPEAKER_00

I know literally when we see each other in six months.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. No, Resident Evil 10 will be out by then.

SPEAKER_00

Resident Evil 10 will be out by then. They're gonna have my old man Leon work in that thing once we're gonna go.

SPEAKER_02

Leon Sex Kennedy.

SPEAKER_00

Leon we uh we go to trivia because we're cool people. Um, and we get to choose you choose your team name, you like write your answers on the sheet. It's like very chill. Um and very rarely do we place they read out like the top three and you get like a gift card to the place that we do trivia. Um and one of the times that we placed third our team name was uh Leon S. Kennedy Tickle Biddies fan club. And the delightful woman who runs trivia had to read that out to a crowd of people because we didn't think we were going to place.

SPEAKER_02

What a what a what a better note that we could leave off on hot.

SPEAKER_00

And we have to stop right now.

SPEAKER_02

We have to stop right, dude. Thank you so much for joining the pod. This was a blast.

SPEAKER_00

Thanks for having me.

SPEAKER_02

Come on anytime. Uh we'll make content together again at some point in the next nine or ten years.

SPEAKER_00

Within at least one baby pregnancy, hopefully.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_00

Which won't be either of ours.

SPEAKER_02

And no, whose will it be? Who's to say?

SPEAKER_00

Joe Biden.

SPEAKER_02

Right. Thank you guys so much for watching. Make sure you subscribe, make sure you follow, follow Anna Claire on all. Make sure you stream that fucking song. It's a heater.com. I love it. I'm gonna use it in a TV show one day. Thank you guys so much for watching. Join the Leon Sex Kennedy big big titties, big yiddies, uh vibe and ass function tickle biddies fan club. And most importantly, thanks for stopping by.