#2 - Keith Weibe - A Pastor's Take on Reaching Your City

In Episode 2, Keith Wiebe shares what it looks like to stay rooted in a place others might leave. His church has remained in the same neighborhood through decades of challenge, committed to the 7,600 people who live within reach of their doors.

Keith reflects on what that commitment has meant in practice, walking alongside people facing homelessness, food insecurity, and addiction, and choosing presence over programs. This is a conversation about steady ministry, long obedience, and what happens when a church decides it is not going anywhere.

At the center of it all is a simple conviction: when believers work together to serve those in need, God is present and at work.

Transcript

SPEAKER_00 0:18

Welcome everyone to the Huntington City Mission podcast that we call Hope Cast. And thanks for joining us. I'm thinking today of the subject of how that we as believers, how that we should embrace the communities that we're in with the gospel of Christ. I was thinking of the passage in Jeremiah 29.7, where Jeremiah says, And seek the peace of the city where I've caused you to be carried away captive, and pray to the Lord for it, for in its peace, you will have peace. There certainly seems to be some blessing there for embracing the community that we're in. I also think about Acts 1.8, where Jesus, as he ascended into heaven, said, But you shall receive power when the Holy Spirit has come upon you, and you shall be witnesses to me in Jerusalem, Judea, Samaria, to the ends of the earth. Start with where we are. However, as we look around, sometimes our communities have have, they're not what they used to be. I mean, we just we just have to admit that. There's a lot of things that we wish were different. There's more poverty than uh we would like to see. Uh there's more homelessness than uh any of us would like to see. And there certainly is a lot more issues with uh drugs and other just substance uh use uh problems. What I've noticed it seems like in some of my brethren, uh brothers and sister churches, is that it seems like that some of us have just thrown up our hands and said, well, we're just gonna wait until it comes back to be like the good old days. And uh folks, the good old days are gone. But however, like Esther, uh we were born and placed here for a time such as this. And my time being at the Huntington City Mission, one of the people that I have met that I'm uh really thankful for is Pastor Keith Weeby. And Pastor Keith is a uh the pastor at Grace Gospel Church. They have a history with the Huntington City Mission, and uh they're one of their founders, and those of you who are uh been local for a long time who remember the name of Mel Efal, was apparently uh very essential in helping uh the Huntington City mission to get started. But that they have um a history of working with us beside that. So, number one, welcome, Keith. Thanks, sir. Thank you for uh spending the time this morning to uh come and sit down and talk with me. And uh why don't you talk about, Keith, some of the the unique relationship that that Grace Gospel Church has had with the Honey City Mission.

SPEAKER_01 3:02

Well, Mitch, first of all, it's great to be here with you, and I just I love what's been happening with the mission, and I'm excited for the future with the transition of leadership, like you talked about in the last podcast. Grace Gospel Church, uh, we have been around for a little over 88 years now. And our founding pastor, like you said, was Mel Ephaw. Uh he came to Huntington as a young evangelist with um, he was invited here by the Cross Tabernacle. It was a big church on the east end of town. Um it was located about where the, well, I would, old timers I'd say where the Big Bear Plaza was. It's the H IMG building now. And the that church is is long gone, but uh he was brought here and uh a small group of people in that church asked him if he would be willing to stay and help them start a mission down on the west end of Huntington. I guess it was a little rough in those days as well. And so uh they they got a storefront down about where the gazebo is now, and they started the West 14th Street mission, and uh before long that grew into what became Grace Gospel Church. Uh but Mel Efaw had a heart for challenging areas and challenging communities, and that that's why he stayed and he he took that step of faith. Um my understanding of history is that he was instrumental in helping to start the Huntington City mission. Yep, that's right. And um Grace has had a long, a long relationship. I've really enjoyed, appreciated being able to learn from you, learn from the other folks here at the mission as we've been working on how we can adjust and put ourselves in the best possible place to help reach our community in the West End of Huntington.

SPEAKER_00 4:43

That's great, that's good stuff. And uh Grace has been uh involved in some creative things. Uh I remember uh one of the things is that as we were in COVID and uh you know we could we couldn't get uh Lysol, we couldn't get anything like that. And Grace did a Lysol Sunday for us, which was great, and it really helped us to get through that time. But uh one of the one of the first things that I noticed when I um attended and had a privilege to speak at uh Grace Gospel Church was uh I saw the numbers 7650 uh on the walls, and uh I I found out you could ask just about any one of their members and they could tell you exactly what that was about. So uh Kate, why don't you tell us about that?

SPEAKER_01 5:32

Well, that's really been a gift that God gave to us. You know, I think probably every church wants to reach out to communities and knows that we should, but it's it's hard to figure out how to do it. And I'd love to say that we had some great master plan, but we didn't. We we don't. God just sort of dropped this in our lap. We were looking at a piece of property uh adjacent to our church and uh were hoping to purchase it, didn't have the money, ended up being given to us, but that's a whole nother story. But in the process of that, I learned that according to the last census, there were 7,650 people living within a one-mile radius of our church. And I'll tell you, that was a that was a personal moment for me. It just captured my heart because I thought there are 7,650 people who could walk to Grace Gospel Church on Sunday morning. It would be a total chaotic catastrophe if they did, but we would love it. But um everybody in our church, like you said, knows that number now. When we ended up being given that building uh as we were figuring out what to do with it, we we had a dedication Sunday for it, and we were thinking of some kind of community outreach facility. Uh, a couple of us went through and put up signs, uh pieces of paper that said things like, Imagine the possibilities, go out onto the highways and hedges, 7650, and um it it meant it began to transform our church. We we call it Project 7650, and we thought, okay, we we've been around this neighborhood for a long, long time. But and in the early days, most of the people in our church were from that neighborhood. But as time goes by, people are spread out, east end of town, Ashland, Chesapeake, South Point, you know, all over the place. And the neighborhood had um become more difficult. And, you know, our church is is a fairly traditional church, we don't apologize for that. Uh but we there was a disconnect there for us. And missions was important. We supported missionaries around the world, but disconnect between our church and and our own community. And so we thought, okay, what can we do? And we started out just thinking, okay, we're gonna try to reach our Jerusalem here. We had maps with our church in in the middle of a red circle drawn one mile out, yeah, and we figured out that we could take a couple Saturdays, get a bunch of people together, and we would go out to every single house in that 7650 community and invite them to whatever our next thing was. And then we started to think, well, what's the next thing that we should invite them to? What would folks want to come to? And we we started showing Disney movies on the wall of the church outside in the summertime and uh passing out hot dogs and things like that. And and we've just been, we've really just been figuring it out as we go.

SPEAKER_00 8:17

Yeah, that's great. So that's a pretty big um step for a church. Uh I would think that it would be a pretty big paradigm shift uh for especially some of the people who have been there for a good a good while. Uh, was it hard to get people to, I don't like this phrase, but I don't know what else to say, to buy into this idea? I would say that people weren't resistant to it.

SPEAKER_01 8:42

We just didn't know what to do. It was just a it was a different uh economy to us. Uh a different so we were trying to figure this out. And I remember in a deacon's meeting, one of our deacons uh was talking about this, and he said, You know, I was out last Saturday on one of our 7650s, he called it where we were going to all of the houses, and he said, I I knocked on a door, and the guy came to the door and he said, You know, I'd I'd come to your church, but you guys are pretty fancy, and these sweats are the best thing I have to wear. Yeah. And it was like a light bulb came on over the guy's head. And the guy started talking, and the the conversation was, hey, we got to get the church out of the building. What are we gonna do? And we realized that, while we're not gonna compromise truth, that would that doesn't serve anybody. But some of the things that we had become comfortable with were actually barriers to the gospel. That's right. And you know, a pastor can get up and talk about this stuff, but when we actually experience it and we see people that we want to reach, we realize we've gotta, we've got to do something about this. So we we started talking about it, and uh a couple of things happened. Uh they as they were talking about getting the church out of the building and what's this gonna look like, and uh one of them said, Well, what about the old-time tent revivals? Because people were going back to what they knew, and I thought, well, that's maybe an idea, I don't know. And then one of the guys said, Well, my brother-in-law has a 40 by 60 foot tent in his barn. And I thought, you gotta be kidding. Um, and as the conversation went on, uh, they said, Let's let's let's do something on a Sunday. And two things happened that conversation, and one more thing birthed what we call I Love Huntington Sunday. And the other thing that happened was the release of the heroin movie back in 2017, uh documentary about Huntington. Uh, we had, I think it was in 2016, 2017, there was a horrible day in Huntington where a bad batch of heroin hit the streets. Right. And I think it was 26 people died in four hours, and that hit national, international news, and then after the heroin movie came out, and and the heroin movie was was highlighting and celebrating the people who were really working hard to make a difference and did a great job with that, but it also highlighted some of the challenges in Huntington. And we thought, man, there's just a a a lot of bad news, a lot of bad press about Huntington, uh, just with overdoses and you know the drug capital of the world, they were calling it. And so we thought we want to celebrate the good things that are happening here. So we call it I Love Huntington Sunday. It was kind of a cross between uh a Sunday morning and a carnival. Uh, we had the tent set up outside, we started with a brief service, we had inflatables and little ponies and antique cars and uh hot dogs for everybody. Great, and uh we had about 950 people come that first that first year, and and that was great. But this is the thing that I remember about that first I Love Huntington Sunday, I think it was in 2017. Our church, that was our buy-in moment. Everybody in our church was involved. Old, young, oh that's good. If they're familiar with neighborhood, if they're not, they figured out something they could do, and they were all involved. And after the that first one, somebody said, You want to do it again? I said, Absolutely. And the next year we did it again, and we had around 11 or 1200 people come. But the difference was the second year we had about three times as many people come for the service portion. Oh nice and we had 36 people trust Christ. Oh, that's that year. That's terrific. And so uh that's been a really, really special thing for us, but it's um it that's where we saw that the church, the church bought into this.

SPEAKER_00 12:23

Yeah, so we said we don't quite know what we're gonna do, but we're gonna do something. That's right. And you know the old saying, nothing succeeds like success. So I'm certain that uh once they saw some of those results, uh that uh it would be easier for them to uh to buy in. So what would you tell me how it has uh changed or affected the church since you've been doing that?

SPEAKER_01 12:47

When in the early days I thought, boy, this is gonna be great. We are gonna fill this church building up with folks from this community, and that that is my prayer. And we have had people from the community come, and there are folks in our church from the community, and we see lives being changed, but I have seen a congregation change. Um the sensitivity, the heart, and it's not that it wasn't there before. People wanted to serve, they wanted to reach, but we just didn't have the means, and God dumped this into our our lab. I'll I'll give you an example. I would I would talk about this all the time, and you know, folks are coming from the neighborhood, and you know, we want to make sure that we're being welcoming and gracious and uh removing barriers. And a lady came up to me after church, and she said, You know what we could do to help these people? And to be honest with you, when I hear a phrase like these people, that that bothers me. But but I knew what she meant. She said, Well, you know, we we have church clothes, and what if we uh had a closet where we put our extra church clothes, and so when they come, they could they could get church clothes to wear? And I said, Well, that's a nice idea, but doesn't that still communicate that to be part of this club you have to look like this? Right, and you could see it, yeah, you can see it on our face, you went, oh, oh, oh, we don't want to do that. I said, Yeah, no, I don't think so either. So it's it's been messy, and we're we're really we're figuring it out as we go.

SPEAKER_00 14:12

Yeah, that's so good. I I've developed uh a uh uh a thing I always say with our Chad uh Hatfield, our our chaplain here at the mission, that um I don't think ministry is really ministry unless there's some dirt up under your fingernails. We've got a lot of that and uh so but I but I love that. And uh, you know, what I have learned is that we really overthink this. It's if you treat people with dignity, if you if you treat them as people who were born and are created in the image of God, and and you you learn their name, you're willing to shake their hand, look them in the eye, call them by name, ask them how they're doing, man, that that's probably half of the battle right there. Just show some respect. That's right, that's right. Because our folks, uh when I say our folks, I'm thinking of the mission, and even though I'm uh officially semi-retired now, it's still our folks. Right. And uh our folks don't get that a lot. They uh, and you can imagine, uh sometimes I walk out to talk to them and they think I'm going to uh ask them to leave, and I'm sure they get that a lot. And by the way, I understand that from businesses. It's it's uh I understand why we have to do that, but to just say no, you I just want to see how you're doing, it's amazing at the response that we get. So we're gonna go do next year. Have you had any pushback from the community or anyone from within the church? Uh I know that the more that we as the mission have tried to reach out into that uh segment of uh of the community, we've actually received some some pushback uh and some complaints for it.

SPEAKER_01 16:05

Uh you know, we really haven't. No, that's um certainly within the church, there's been uh just a great deal of support. Um we I I don't say this to brag, although I'll brag on our church a little bit. We it's not uncommon to have more volunteers for an event than we can handle, which you don't know in church life very often. Right. Um as far as the community goes, uh people have seemed to appreciate it, even from the city uh and city officials. Um I'll say Mayor Steve Williams, uh, he and I probably wouldn't have probably nothing, we wouldn't have seen eye to eye on a number of things, but he was he was very supportive of what we were doing here in the West End. Yeah, I do too. I really came to appreciate him. And in fact, we were talking once uh about a project and asking him for some help, and he said to me, uh he said, Pastor Keith, I just figure whenever I see something good happening on the West End, you guys are doing it. And that was nice and probably too generous and probably a little political, but I appreciated the sentiment, and I do have to say that he he did come through and help support us. But really, uh beyond that, the you know, the city council and other officials, the the Huntington Police Department, they've been they've been helpful to us. Yeah, very good. One other thing I'd mentioned um this might go back in earlier, but with I Love Huntington Sunday, one of the things we did is we wanted to celebrate others who were doing good things to help Huntington. Yes. They didn't have to look like, be like us exactly, and so we called them community partners. Yes. And we had uh recovery places, uh Lily's place, um First Responder. I believe we received one of those. City Mission. Yeah, we called them community partners, we had certificates printed, and the certificate's not a big thing, but we just wanted the folks to come up in front of everybody who was there in the community, not our church, yes, but everybody in the community, so you can see these are folks who are here to help you, and we appreciate what you're doing.

SPEAKER_00 18:05

Yeah, that's that's excellent. We have we personally here have had uh uh good experiences with uh with those partners as well, and and uh have and work very closely with them. Um the police chief uh Phil Watkins and uh even the fire chief uh Greg Fuller, uh just good brothers of the board and uh and and good guys to work with. So what is um what's coming up for Grace Gospel Church? What do you what do you see as uh you move forward?

SPEAKER_01 18:38

Well, it's there have been a a couple of chapters in hindsight as I look back, and each time I see God sort of dumping something into our lap, and it's something that we realize as a church, if this had happened five years ago, we weren't ready. As people, we didn't we didn't know, but then he he you know, in shady green pastures, God leads us along, as the old hymn says. And so we we had the the 7650 and we showed the Disney movies and uh I Love Huntington Sunday, and you know, you put you put a carnival out there and and food, you're gonna draw a crowd. We thought that's good, but we want to do we want to do more than that. We want to be connecting with people, and and really ultimately we want to be connecting people to Jesus. And so we have uh really gotten philosophical about this thing, and we've put some boundaries on what we do because there are a lot of needs in Huntington. We're not equipped to meet them all, right? But we are doing what we do for the purpose of introducing people to Jesus, yeah. But we realize that when Jesus came, he didn't just sit up and preach all the time, yeah. He met people's immediate needs, that's right. He fed them and he healed them, and he used that as a bridge that he could go across with the gospel to meet their eternal need. And so that's what that's what we're trying to do too. And um we we we started out thinking, okay, how can we how can we do a better job of introducing people to Jesus? And like a lot of churches, um, we'll have a Christmas Eve service, and we thought we'd like this to be an outreach thing. But as we looked around on Christmas Eve, it was mostly our people and their family members who came in, and so uh one year we got the idea, well, let's let's feed everybody Christmas dinner, but let's not just do the chicken on paper plates here in the gym. Um, we want to give them a Christmas dinner that they can take home and have. So our goal was to feed 500 families. So we thought, well, that might be 2,000, 2,500 people, and um our folks in our church um were collecting all the fixings, I called them. We had these boxes, we called it a community Christmas celebration, and uh we put out a list of the canned goods and things like that for a Christmas meal. A man, a wealthy man who lives in Texas heard about this, and he called and he said, uh, I'm I'm sending you $8,000. I want to buy all the hams for this. And I think we had some extras and we brought those to the mission there. And um, so then the the community caught wind of this and it just took off. News stations were calling, and um, I was thinking, man, we've got all this food, we've got all this publicity, we're doing a couple Christmas Eve services on this evening. I hope people come. Well, the city buses rerouted and started dropping people off in the parking lot at two or three o'clock in the afternoon, and they were saying, Well, just give me the food and I won't worry about it. And I'm like, nope, nope, you have to come to service tonight. And um, I was sitting in my office before the first service was gonna start, and I was thinking, Lord, I just hope I hope people come to this. And I walked into the auditorium and it was packed, and I hardly recognized anybody. Oh, yeah. And I was so excited about that, and just one uh story that was repeated a number of times, but there was uh a lady I was talking to afterwards, and she told me that she had heard about this on the radio that afternoon. She has family in the area, but there was a rift there, they had abandoned her. She had no Christmas and she had nobody. She came that night, and as we talked, she accepted Christ as her savior. And I just loved that. But the story continues. We wanted, we tried to follow up with everybody who made a decision that night. And this lady in particular, because I talked to her, I was trying to find her, and I couldn't find her. You know, as the weeks went by and just didn't know where she was. Next year we did it again. And I walked into the gym, and a lady came walking up to me and she said, Do you recognize me? And I was hated when somebody says something because my memory's not very good. I said, I'm not sure. And she goes, Well, I've lost a lot of weight since the last time you saw me. And I thought, why would you say that? I don't know how to respond to that. But she said, I was that lady. And she said, I got saved. And she said, I moved to the east end of town. That's why we hadn't been able to find her. She said, I've been involved with the church. I heard you guys were doing this. I came back down and I wanted to help. And she was there helping with that. And so we we've done those kinds of things, the Christmas outreaches and things like that. But the latest chapter has been really exciting. We began to hit another challenge. And one of the biggest things I think that God has been teaching me, just as a person, as a Christian, over the years, and it's so rudimentary, it's Christianity 101. I should have learned a long time ago. But I can be a warrior. And every time there's a problem, God has shown me that He has already been working on the supply, even before I knew there was a problem. That's right. And I wish I could say I've learned it and so I don't worry anymore, but I'm working on it. But we started to hit a challenge. We've got we've got a lot of things going on at the Grace Gospel Ministry. And we have a wonderful school, Grace Christian School. And you know, sometimes you have ministries and they're all good, but they can they can distract from each other. Right. And you know, you and I have talked about this. We want to provide space for recovery groups and things like that. But sometimes, you know, a ministry like that and your first grade class, you know, they none of them are gonna they're gonna bump. And so we thought, what what can we do? How can we do this? Well, um, a couple of years ago, uh a friend of a mutual friend of ours, Barry Smith, yeah, called out of the blue and he's he said, Um, you know, my wife and I are in Tennessee, we used to be in Huntington, we're older now. We have a building. Do you want it? And I said, Yes, we do. And Barry actually used to be on our Grace Christian school staff years ago and had a ministry to folks uh that were in challenging circumstances on the street. And it's a little church, uh, it's two blocks away from our campus. Yeah, and it's perfect. What um one of our other pastors, David Brocky and I have been talking for a while about we need some kind of a headquarters out in the middle of the neighborhood. We're right there, but out in the middle of the neighborhood. And um this was it. You know, God had it. And we thought about trying to buy a house, but he gave it to us. It's perfect. Uh we've named it the refuge based on Psalm 46, one God is our refuge and our strength, a very present help in time of trouble. And our goal is to get personal and build relationships and build that bridge. And again, we we introduced it to the church, people were excited about it. We didn't completely know what we were gonna do with it. And what has been happening there has just been amazing. The the first thing we did, before we actually technically owned the building, it was right before school started, we had a back-to-school event, and folks in our church donated backpacks full of school supplies. Um, we had we had some ladies in our church that were giving haircuts, and we had some school clothes and things like that. And I pulled up to the building about 15 minutes before the event was supposed to start, and there was a line of people down the block. And I got so teary, I almost couldn't see because they just they came and I thought I don't even know how they knew, but they knew, and they and they came. We've done it, we've moved our Christmas Eve outreach there. Oh, that's good. Um, we have recovery groups, um, we've partnered with the health department uh to provide medical help for ladies on the streets in difficult situations, and uh we have counselors there for them, and the health department has told us that whereas in the past, you know, efforts there were it was very difficult to make those connections, but ladies know that this is a safe place that they can come. And then some creative things. Some of our young moms did a I think they called it glam it up or something like that, and they and their daughters got there and they did makeovers for girls in the community. And um we've we've done uh various kinds of winter essentials giveaways with with clothing. One of our teachers, she's an art teacher, uh Katie Thompson, and she came to me about a year ago and she said, What about doing an art camp there for a week in the summer? I like that. And well, and you're more of a visionary. I mean, I love Katie and she can do it, but I thought I don't know if that's gonna work. But it did. And she and people came, and all of these things are bridges to to go across with the gospel of Jesus Christ.

SPEAKER_00 26:53

That is so good. And and uh my uh family had uh uh that same mentor who was a mentor for me, Barry Smith, and we had uh some activity with them getting that started originally, and so it's a uh so good to uh hear that uh uh because I think that's really the vision for the building uh to begin with. Um I've got uh one more question to ask you, and if anything else we can talk about that too, but uh what I'm wondering is uh if you had uh a pastor, you know, from uh an area of town that maybe doesn't have the best reputation that would come to you and say, Pete, I love what you guys have done here. What encouragement would you give me to start something similar in my area?

SPEAKER_01 27:44

Unless they do it, first of all. And you know, I think one of the things that God has done for us is He has helped us see where we are as a blessing and not an obstacle. Yeah. Um and this is not to cast aspersions on churches across the board, but you know, churches sometimes think, well, we want to have a pretty campus and we want to move to the suburbs and you know, leave an inner city work, or we're gonna move and and it's not always wrong, you know, you where your people are, but um we when we started this Isle of Huntington Sunday, and we were we were practicing putting up that tent that I mentioned, and we were trying to figure that thing out, another pastor came up, and he was lit, we were all out in the parking lot working on this thing, and he said, What are you guys doing? I said, Well, we're gonna do this Isle of Huntington Sunday, we're trying to learn how to put up a big tent. And I told him what we were gonna do, and he said, Man, you guys are so lucky we have to go someplace to our mission field, but you've got it right across the parking lot. And a number of years ago, we did a renovation on our auditorium, and uh we had some consultants come in to help us figure out what to do and just kind of look the ministry over with fresh eyes. And one of the guys said to me, uh, looked at our building, and our our our building's old, it's it's a little bit uh it's beautiful to me, but it's it's a little haphazard, you know. If you walk through, you can get lost. And uh he said, Would you consider moving? And I said, Not in a million years. I said, and I'm not saying that for me, our church would not move from this spot. We were founded on this spot, and we feel that God has called us here. So um that might be too long of an answer, but to your question, I would say to that pastor, appreciate where you are and look for the needs that are there. God's provided those as a blessing, right? Figure out what's what's a small way that you can start just meeting those needs to build relationships and to use those as a bridge to go across with the gospel. There's a guy in our church, Mitch, who uh is just instrumental in helping us with this refuge ministry. And his testimony is he he and his wife were on the streets for a while, they almost lost their kids and came out of addiction. And um, when we were just starting to get into this, he said to me, Keith, he said, You gotta realize it's it's one of the more frustrating ministries because the the hold of addiction is so strong. And he said this, he said, you might go after a hundred and get one. Yeah, yeah, be ready for that. And I think it's easy to give up. Uh it's a very transient neighborhood, right? And so tried that, didn't work. Right, yeah, and and we have tried a lot of stuff that didn't work, and and then there are some things that just take off, and we're like, huh, didn't see that coming.

SPEAKER_00 30:23

And God does that. Yeah. Well, that's good stuff, buddy. Well, again, we have uh Pastor Keith Weeby from Grace Gospel Church. He and his wife Kim uh and their children have become uh special to my wife Bonita and I. And I'm just so thankful for uh Keith for you coming today and and taking part in this with us. And uh God bless you, buddy. And as as our old friend Bob Barber used to say, may your tribe increase.

SPEAKER_01 30:51

Absolutely, absolutely. Mitch, thanks so much for the time and thank you for what you're doing here. I I love the partnership, and uh I'll say this too, uh, in answer to your last question, you know, as far as what a pastor should do. You've helped us uh uh as a church to figure out what to do. You've helped us avoid some pitfalls and trying to figure out ministry in tough communities, there are other people doing it. And and sometimes we have to realize we're gonna need to work with people that aren't exactly like us. That's right. And that if we're if we're agreed on the gospel and you know we don't compromise on that, that's right. We work together to see people in heaven.

SPEAKER_00 31:28

That's great. Thank you, brother.

SPEAKER_01 31:30

Thank you, Mitch.

SPEAKER_00 31:31

Thank you for uh listening today. Hope it's been a blessing to you, and uh God bless you to immediately.