Biden ghouls, Catherine Liu, and the Below Deck chef’s accent

Biden ghouls, Jazz (the dog), the Summer House men’s grooming, Catherine Liu, and the Below Deck chef’s accent

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SPEAKER_02 0:00

I don't like this. I don't like this. I don't like this. Podcast. That's right. They told you I couldn't sing. Were they lying? Were they lying? I don't know. I don't know. I don't know a lot of things. But you be the judge. You're a good judge. You're a good judge of character. That's why you're here. It's why you're here. You know a good egg when you hear one. When you listen to one every week. Like and subscribe. Like and subscribe as always. We're still upstate. Do you hear the bird sound? I was actually blown away last week listening back at how good the audio quality was. You could really hear a lot of stuff, and I'm throwing it out there. I don't know that I need those little microphones. Sorry. Sorry, microphone gang. I think it sounded pretty nice. I think it's on a pretty nice, and it's it's cheap. I don't know. Leave a comment. Let me know. Let me know what's up, everybody. We're noodling. We are full on puttering. We are puttering, and I'm gonna take you guys on a little adventure today. Nothing really crazy. You know what I was thinking? You know what I was thinking about this? Is this kind of like a voice note? And voice notes are kind of in. Or they have been, don't you think? I feel like I'm hearing a lot about voice notes. My friends don't really leave me a lot of voice notes. Maybe yours do. Anyway, this is kind of a voice note. Okay, we're in a car. We're in a car, but it's only for a short time. You hear those car noises, you like those car noises. Oh, there's the radio! What's on the radio? I don't think I should play music from the radio on this. Seems like I'm gonna get slapped with some fine from Apple. Disney Disney Corp. You know, I wrote something for National Geographic recently and I had to go through all the Disney paperwork, get signed up in their system to get paid. It's a lot of stuff in there. Corporate! Big corporate, where my corporate girlies at? I don't know, I don't think this is a very corporate girly podcast, but what do I know? Let me know. DM, like, and subscribe. Okay, we're out of the car. Did I do everything I need to do? I think we're on to our next adventure. Yeah, I feel like it's a voice memo. That's what this podcast is. For a memo, I was like, should I rename this Voice Notes? Voice Notes from Jack. I guess that's kind of what it is. It's kind of soothing. ASMR quality. But not every week. I feel like it started. It started, this is Jack on Jack, I guess. It started as Zanier. You know, it started, I was doing a lot of book promo, Dream Facades, Get Your Boy, and it's kind of more into press mode. Now, you know, I'm idyllic, I'm upstate. I'm gardening. I've saved you from all my gardening talk, but I got a lot of it. I feel like it's not fun. Maybe it's fun. Anything's fun if you make it fun. But maybe now we're in a mode where this is what you put on before you go to bed. Relax. Relax with Jack. You know? Who doesn't want that? Who doesn't want that? Lots of people. Lots of people. Do you hear the birds we're walking? We're walking on a street. This is the first time we're taking on the street. Don't say you never did anything. But we're not on the street for long. Do you hear the wind? I don't know if you can hear the wind. There's a nice gentle breeze. It's a beautiful day today, actually. But we're going inside. We're going to my uncle's cabin. He's not here. You won't get to meet him, unfortunately. But you will get to meet somebody else.

SPEAKER_01 4:48

Hello.

SPEAKER_03 4:50

Hello!

SPEAKER_02 4:51

Oh you breathing loud for the for the listeners? Can they hear you?

SPEAKER_03 5:02

Jazz.

SPEAKER_02 5:04

Jazz! That's my uncle's dog. Oh, he's breathing. He snuffled. Little cat mini. Minnie, are you gonna meow? Minnie, mini, meow for us. Minnie, mini, mini, meow. Minnie's not gonna meow. Okay, we gotta let Minnie out without letting Jazz out. Okay, Minnie's out. Jazz is in. We'll take Jazz on a walk at some point. Should we take Jack out Jazz on a walk now? I've heard that Jazz doesn't really like walks. Oh, there he made a little noise. Maybe he does. Tail flopping.

SPEAKER_03 5:44

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 5:45

You're on a podcast, Jazz. Do you want to say something? Oh, I should close the door because I think he'll run. Gotta lock the door. Jazz is a big dog. Jazz is a big dog.

SPEAKER_03 5:54

Big baby. Yes, she is.

SPEAKER_02 5:58

He's very sweet. He loves people. He hates dogs. So gotta watch that. And he'll run. He'll run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run. He'll run away. So we we gotta let that not happen. I'm babysitting.

SPEAKER_03 6:15

I'm dog sitting for my little Jizzy Jazz.

SPEAKER_02 6:19

Maybe we should take him on a walk. That'd be kind of fun. Here we are. Here we are. Sorry everybody. I'm a little tired. I'm a little tired. A little exhausted. A little exhausted from everything going on in the world. Also, I think I cursed somebody, maybe. Well, no. I would never do such a thing. Of course, not for legal reasons. But you know, over the weekend, I was watching. I was on Twitter. Which by the way, Twitter's amazing in case Oh, there's a jazz moan. In case you're not really on Twitter, it's really good these days. In fact, I think the best it's ever been. Oh, this is Jazz Not Like Me Podcasting. Twitter's the best it's ever been.

SPEAKER_03 7:05

Hi little Green. Hi little Green. So here for you. She's talking about Twitter. Tweets.

SPEAKER_02 7:13

Twitter's the best it's ever been. Because it's really unhinged. As I think some people would say. It's unhinged. It's unhinged. It's weird. It's lost all those blue sky nerds. So there's no more of that. It's just real, real weird stuff. Anyway, it's also like rage bait. There's a lot of rage bait. There's a lot of rage bait, there's a lot of bots. But so I got served a video. It was, what was it, graduation speech, commencement address, CUNY somewhere, maybe? I don't know. I don't know, but it was one of these ghouls and goblins who worked in the Biden administration. She was the um ambassador to the UN. She was the ambassador to the UN. She's a real ghoul and goblin. And she was her speech was getting interrupted because, you know, she had blocked all those UN votes for a ceasefire for Israel's attacks on Gaza. And so people were heckling her, interrupting her because she's a ghoul and goblin, and was promoting, facilitating genocide, let's say. She was facilitating a genocide. So obviously people aren't down for that. And I cursed her, I think, in my head. You know, in these moments, in these moments of rage, where you can't really do anything, where powerless, impotent rage. You just think about what you what would you say if you were next to this person, if you were to sat down to this person at dinner. And just a just a vitriolic curse. Just a hex. Hex upon her people, hex upon her. And I think it exhausted me. I think I think I might have unfortunately, well, maybe fortunately, I might have done something because I was so, so tired for days and days, and I'm still tired. And so for legal reasons, I guess this is all a joke. You can't legally hex somebody. I don't know. I don't know how that works. Jazz, how do you think that works? Jazz is over it. Jazz is not to this podcast. I don't know, guys. I don't know. But I wouldn't be that upset, I guess, if I heck somebody who deserves it like that. Who really deserves it? There's so many people who deserve it. There's so many of those people. Uh oh. Let's not turn into a podcast about politics. This isn't um Chapo's Trap House. Do the kids still know about that? Is that resurrected? Excuse me. Excuse me, blowing my nose. I don't know if the kids know about Choppo's Trap House. Does Gen Zen Z know about all that? Who cares? Who cares? No, it's just oh, yes, yes, yes, yes. There's something about those people that's worse. It's the people who feign pretend to be good people while doing horrible things and are kind of condescending scolds and are like, well, it's a very difficult decision that you wouldn't you wouldn't understand. You know, there's so much that you don't get. You know, this condescending, whatever. That's more infuriating and aggravating the people who are just straightforwardly bad people. Like Trump is just sort of a goon, and he's sort of upfront that he's a goon and a goober. Is that a millennial? Is that millennial speak? What a goober. Trump's just a goober. You know he's upfront about his his goonish qualities, so it's like less infuriating than these people who pretend to be thoughtful and wise, etc. It's just a seltzer. It's just a seltzer, jazz. And so we curse them. We curse them with a lot of energy.

SPEAKER_01 11:29

Anything that makes sense? They're horrible.

SPEAKER_02 11:32

They're horrible. Victims of their own ambition, perhaps we could say. And who among us? In a way, I'm a victim of my own ambition making this podcast. Curse to humiliate myself in front of you all on a weekly basis? No, I'm just kidding. Just kidding. I love everybody and I love doing this. I love the sound of my voice. Me, me, me, me, me, me, me. What's going on with the guys grooming on the Summerhouse Reunion? Are you watching this? You know, the appointment television. Appointment television, reality TV, the Summer House Reunion, the takedown of Amanda and West. None of the guys look like they've got a haircut recently. They're all like. Ooh, Jazz's not liking this. They're all shaggy haired. Jazz is kind of shaggy haired. They're all shaggy haired. None of them are freshly shaven. And they all look kind of like they like not that they just rolled out of bed, but they roll off like a three-day bender. It's the long hair. There's something going on. There's something going on, I think, with guys and hair. And I say this as a baldino. As a baldino who you know I have some hair, but it's just at a point where I would rather just bick it. I'd rather bick it. Side note, I wanted to write. You know the New York War Crimes used to have this column that was letter recommendation. Letter recommendation, it's like some anodyne thing where they recommend to you, and it's kind of stupid. But I had a really good one, which was just pick up the bic and just bick your hair. Let go of any hair anxiety. It's also just efficient and easy, and I cannot imagine spending time on hair every day. It seems like a nightmare. Um, but there's something going on with guys in hair where it's getting long and kind of weird, and I guess it's like maybe a reaction away from the era just recently where a lot of like, you know, guys in their 30s, late 20s, late 20s and onward would have anxiety about losing their hair. So maybe they made more efforts to kind of minimize the hair as a center of attention. So it's more like the hair just being slick and polished and neat and tidy and not making a big show of it now. I think guys are spending so much on, like, you know, the minoxidil, the panasteride, the red light therapy, whatever people are doing, you know, the PRP, the, and then the surgeries, you know, all the hair transplants. And so now it's like they have to make a show of it because they're working so hard of it for it. So you see it, I think you see it on Andy Cohen. That goblin and ghoul. You see it on Andy Cohen where he's got those long hair, and then it's just like it's just kind of it's not that neat, and it's kind of like messy, but it's also not like artfully messy. You know who also has this problem is Ryan Serhant from Serhant, real estate guy. It's just like a lot of it's just a lot of hair, it's just so much hair, and it's not really styled well. It's just like what what's happening? What's happening? Why are we making such a show of this hair? And it just you see it on the guys in summer house, the Ben, the Australian guy, is just this big curly puff. Big curly puff of hair. Love and light. Love and light to everybody, of course, in the situation. I do think something weird is happening, and then there none of them are clean shaven. None of them are clean shaven. And that I don't know what we're making a show of there that we're casual, that we're not business like, that we're just affable non-businessmen, but they're wearing like blazers. We're party boys? We're fun? We're fun lose party boys? Why is everyone a fun loose party boy? I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 15:53

I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 15:56

Jazz is giving me a look. Jazz, I don't think you like my mode when I'm on podcast, so I don't blame you. It is a little it's a glib. It's a little glib. And you don't know me this way. I think we gotta give him a little snugs.

SPEAKER_03 16:10

Oh yes. Oh yes, he's rolled over. Oh yes, he's rolled over and he's put his belly up. Oh yes, he's got a little tongue out. Oh yes!

SPEAKER_01 16:21

Little chin rub. Little chin rub for jazz. Little chin rub for jazz. Let me see.

SPEAKER_02 16:38

Let me see. Oh, goodness. Oh goodness. What else set me off? You know what else set me off? You know what else I don't like? I don't like Biden Ghouls. I don't like Biden Ghouls. And Orna Golmick. Orna Golnik from Couples Therapy. She's the therapist from that show, Couples Therapy. You know, for a while I was into that show. For a while I was into that show. I don't really know why. I mean, I guess whatever. We like hearing people's lives. We love to believe in therapy. We love to believe in therapy. We really, really do. But so Arna Golnik is Israeli. And then I don't know why or how. But I came across this Guardian interview from a couple years ago where she did a sit-down. She did a sit-down with a client of hers who is Palestinian, who had reservations about working with her. And so they had a talk. They had a talk about the situation in Palestine. And Orna is a liberal Zionist. It's pretty clear, at least she was at that time. Still believes in Israel, and she gets, you know, she's trying to listen to here, but she's got all these blocks really to just letting go of the idea of Israel or accepting the idea that Israel is, you know, invaded somebody else's land. It really has no right to be there, and everybody is incredibly justified in not wanting the country to exist. She has a big block to that. You know, she can hear a lot of things, she can rage against Netanyahu and the Israeli government, but she really can't accept that the country has no right to exist, and that everybody who's all within their rights do not want it to exist. And it's a little infuriating. It's again that condescending thing where it's this appearance that you're gonna listen, that you're gonna listen, that you get it, that you're smart, that you're open-minded, that you're caring, and yet you can't really let go of that idea. You can't really get let go of this idea that's so foundational to you, or that you just take as an assumption that something needs to be there, that it's just you need Israel's every right to exist, because it's whatever you've heard, you've grown up with your whole life. And that seems I don't know, I don't know, aggravating, infuriating, but also kind of like mystifying in some ways, because it's like I don't care about the United States. I don't think the United States has any right to exist. And also fine, yeah, so whatever, you're an a an oppressed people, you need your country, you say, but then like gay people are queer people are oppressed people all around the world. They don't need to go to somebody else's home and kick them out and say, Well, I don't have a safe space, so I need to make my safe space here in your safe space. It's like, but that doesn't even make any sense. It just doesn't make any sense. It's one of these things that just like so basically doesn't make any sense, and yet people are still so it's hard. It's hard to let go of these weird fantasies, these weird fallacies. It does, it kind of this idea that you're oppressed so much. It reminds me a little bit, I don't know if you've ever been in the situation, but and this is a love and light situation, but sometimes there are straight women who at some point in their life mourn mourn not having children. At some point they realize maybe they're not going to or they can't, and they mourn not having children, and it is a big process, but I think it's interesting, it was interesting to me the first time seeing that as a queer person who I think early on in life you mourn that you're not gonna have the life that everybody else does, you know. I think that's part of like the coming out process, say is realizing that for yourself. You're not gonna have the same kind of life that everybody else does. So you mourn that process. So then seeing it, you know, somebody have that process later in life, mourning, oh, I'm not gonna have the life that I thought that I always wanted that everybody else gets to have. It's like, well, sure, you know, for me, watching that, it's like, oh, well, that's no biggie, you know, because I've already gone through that process, you know, so it's fine seeing the other side. It's not scary on the other side, you know, you you get used to it, it's just it's sort of a normal life. I think you forget how traumatic that can be for people, and you know, and they think, oh my gosh, this is so hard for me, this is so hard for me, nobody gets it. And it's like, well, no, many people get it. And I guess that's what I'm thinking of like this I don't know, Israeli people having to let go of the idea of Israel. It's like, well, no, many people have accepted that their country sucks on a foundational level, and it's a horrible place. You know, many people get that. Many people get that, you know, there's nowhere in the world that's necessarily totally safe for them. So, you know, it's not some huge tragedy that you have to let go of that and live as so many other people do. You just have to do it. You just have to do it, you have to just grow up and do it. But let me not browbeat. Let me not browbeat. Let me hold space for people who are letting go, as long as they're letting go, and good that they're letting go. Let go of it. Let go of it. Let go of it. Let go of it. Oh, we're We're feeling political. We're feeling political, even though we're upstate. Maybe it's the remove. Maybe it's the distance from New York City is helping me see. Let's not see things, because this is all stuff that I see. But you know, just reflect. Reflect and accept at how horrible some of these people are. Some of these ghouls and goblins. They all gotta go. They're horrible. They're horrible. They're horrible. There's really no justification. They all gotta go. They all gotta be tried for war crimes, and come what may. We gotta dismantle Israel. We should dismantle the US. You know? Okay. This is sort of a segue. This is sort of a segue, but again, we're on the we're on a political theme. Catherine Liu, the academic and media personality, she kind of has Camille Paglia energy. Do you sense this? So Twitter feeds me a lot of Camille Paglia clips. Don't really know why. Maybe Camille Paglia's got a publicist working hard, but vintage Camille Paglia clips, where she just says things with such vitriol, she's one of those people who can talk. She's like um who is this? Fran Leibowitz or something. Nightmare person. Um, you know, they're people who just sound very convincing when they talk and they've mastered a kind of affect that says, well, this is the way that it is. And you gotta recognize it. And if you're not recognizing it, you're just kind of a moron. And Catherine Liu is kind of that energy where I'm down for a lot of what she's saying, but then it's also like, well, sometimes she says something that's like, I don't know what you're really talking about or really trying to say. Love and light. Love and light. But you know what does rub me the wrong way about Catherine Liu. And I'm seeing this. I'm seeing this in many places. This like revolt against like quote-unquote identity politics. Oh, we are so political today. We're so political today. This revolt against identity politics, where which I I gather, you know, there's a lot of like resentment at how issues of race took the fore for a few years, as opposed to maybe class issues, and so people are casting them as opposed and saying that identity politics is a distraction, is a waste of time. Because I think now people are equating identity politics with tokenism, diversity for diversity's sake, and not, you know, the origins of identity politics in the 60s and 70s, which were very tied with discussions of class and class change, and realizing that class change in the US is intertwined with racial dynamics. You know, I think part of the reason socialism is so hard to get off the ground in the US is because there are such racial divisions, and white people really resent handouts, what they perceive as government handouts, or community help going to people who are so different from them, or black people or Native American people or uh whoever. There's a lot of resentment there, so it's really hard to get that off ground. So I think the origin of identity politics was aware of that and was trying to think through that was how do you have this kind of class solidarity when you also have these racial divisions, you know, it's complicated. And now I think people who are talking a lot about class are using the phrase identity politics as a kind of boogeyman that makes me uneasy because no offense, it's a lot of Asian and white people saying this. No offense, and a lot of Asian and white people these days are people who are fighting against things like affirmative action who have a sort of a skewed, a very theoretical idea of what it means, of what race means in the US today, and a sort of condescending attitude about the realities of race in the US today. So it's very off-putting, I think, hearing those people speak dismissively about quote identity politics because it's it sounds like it's a coded way of saying like racism, like that they're writing off the idea that like racism is a huge problem or is something worth talking about, and that's where it makes me a little uneasy. Makes me a little uneasy. So Catherine Liu makes me a little uneasy because it sounds like what she's doing is just dismissing the idea of race. And I think, you know, a lot of Asian people get some traction with this because they can say, like, well, I'm not white, so I understand racism, you know? So I can say this stuff. And the experience of Asian American people in the US is very different from black people in the US is very different from Native American people in the US. So I don't know that she really should get that pass. I don't know that she's saying that. I don't know that she's saying that. She's probably not. I'm sure she's not, but I do think that's part of the dynamic of white people being attracted to her. It's like, oh, well, she can say these things because she's not white. But that's the whole, it's the whole black Indian person of or what is it? Black indigenous, sorry, black indigenous person of color thing. Um that you would split out black and indigenous from everybody else, because it is a different experience. It does go back to that. These aren't frivolous things. I realize that there was a lot of like crap that or or vacuous nonsense that came out of the past 10 years that was just like, okay, you vote for Kamala because she's a black woman. There's a lot of junk in that vein. And there are people who will talk about race without talking about class, and that is dumb as well. So there is a lot of junk out there, but you can't throw the baby out with the bathwater. There's no reason, I think, to necessarily see them as opposed. I think just moving forward, everybody just see race and class intertwined. Just moving forward, let's just all do that. Let's just all do that and stop this. If you're gonna talk about tokenism, talk about tokenism. If you're gonna talk about tokenism, talk about tokenism. Don't talk about identity politics. Don't straw man that whole lineage of thought. Yeah. Or, you know, if you're gonna talk about identity politics, by the way, just do it more rigorously. Just do it more rigorously, or else I think you are glossing over the significance of race in the world today, and that's a foolish move. That's a foolish move that won't serve you or any of the changes that you're trying to make very well. Because if you don't understand the significance of race in the world today, I don't think you really understand how the world works today. I don't think you do. I don't think you do. Because race and class are so intertwined, especially in the US. Especially in the US, it's like how can you how can you talk about one without talking about the other? It doesn't make sense. Make it make sense. Make it make sense. Gosh, we are so political. Thanks for bearing whip. I don't like this Barack Obama. That's something I don't like. I don't like this Barack Obama. I don't like Barack Obama. I don't like Barack Obama. And it was funny being in Beirut last fall. And I don't remember why, but I was with a group of people from the region, and somebody brought up Barack Obama, and they look at me, they're like, we don't like him here. All the bombing he did, all the indiscriminate bombing he did, all the people he killed. You know why I think a lot of this is on the brain? A lot of this is on the brain, and not just because I'm political, because I'm not really honestly that political. Um, I should be more political. For sure. For sure. Especially when the US is basically bankrolling a genocide. We should all be more political. Um, Jazz. Jazz, I don't know if you like that. But um, but it's true, but it's true. Um no, so I'm reading all these like military memoirs, military books, as I'm researching stuff for the for the book that I'm working on. And it's just so weird. So I'm reading like these drone pilot memoirs, and they really are up front that they kill civilians, but they accept it as like the cost of doing business. It's just you know what needs to happen. And it's never explained like why are you dropping these bombs? Who are you going after? Sure, the quote unquote terrorists, but w why are people quote unquote terrorizing the United States? Because of Israel. It's because of the US support for Israel, it's because the US is going in there and you know invading and bombing all these countries and killing all these people, and people don't want that, and so they're trying to fight back by any means necessary, by any means possible, against this power that's just indiscriminately bombing civilians. So that seems like terrorism. That seems like terrorism, but it's so weird because these guys will write as though, you know, they really seem to believe that they are helping people, that they are the good guys, and that you know, they're helping most Iraqis by bombing whoever. And I don't know, I can't tell if they really do believe that. It's just such a weird morality because they don't seem totally convinced. It's like they're trying so hard to come across as thoughtful and reasonable and level-headed and the good guy that it seems like they're not really digging deep, or it's it's like they're lying or something. I don't know. I don't know. I'm gonna unpack it. I'm gonna unpack it in the book, but it's upsetting. It's upsetting to read, and it's so frustrating. It is hard to read too much of that stuff because it's like, wow, you people are horrible. You people are horrible, you did horrible things, you'll never face repercussions, and you're always gonna think that you are doing the right thing. You're doing the right thing by going in and invading these countries and pretending to know what's best for them. When really you're just working in the interest of yourself in Israel. It's like, what how are you so strong and wrong? How do you how do you believe in so confidently in something so flimsy? It's the hard part about writing about this stuff in a sort of sci-fi because if you like transpose it in a different context, it seems so dumb that it's like, oh, well, this isn't believable. You know, there's no moral complexity here. Portraying these people in a different context, they just seem like idiots. So to make them more sympathetic in any kind of way, or like more than one-dimensional, you'd have to like I don't know, give them like a real reason for fighting, and then like that just defeats the whole purpose of the whole of transposing the situation into a different context. Does that make sense? It's like these people really are so non-sympathetic, like, really, we just need to shine a light on this crap. Like, everybody should be reading these books. I really do think that everybody should be reading these military memoirs because it's so upfront about what they're doing and how they really do think they're doing the right thing, and it's like, wow, you are so clearly doing the wrong thing. Unless you really believe that, like, everybody in the Middle East is like a potential terrorist coming to bomb the United States for no reason, just arbitrarily because they hate America. Just for no reason, just for no reason. It's like, how could anybody really believe that anymore? I guess you can't, but I guess maybe 10 years ago a lot more people did. A lot more people did, so it's really a lot has changed. I don't know. I don't know. We need a lighter topic. We need a lighter topic. Mel Ottenberg interview, should he go? What is going on with Mel Ottenberg interview? I have never known what's going on with Mel Ottenberg interview. What's going on with interview in general? It is it is in glib slop. It's working in a glib slop mode. They just featured Spencer Pratt running for mayor in some um editorial photograph thing, which is glib. What's glib and it's sloppy. It's glib sloppy. Um I just remember growing up with interview and really loving that magazine, and it was so fun and it was so poppy, and it was the Ingrid Sashi, I don't know how you say her last name, but Ingrid Sashi years, and it was so colorful, and it felt like it was cool. It just felt really cool. And now interview, or but like cool in a fun way. It was cool and fun, and maybe I'm just being nostalgic about it, but now it just seems like interview is like cool in a not fun way, cool in like a is this ironic kind of way. It's like glib slop bummer. Glib slop bummer. Okay, well that wasn't any more levity. That wasn't any more levity. I don't know. I don't know. I'm on my list. I'm looking on my list. I'm looking on my list. Okay, I have something. I just I have a little fun. I got a little fun. I got a little fun. I have a little fun for you all. Here we go. Do you all watch the show Top Chef? I'm watching Top Chef. And nope. Take that back. Take that back. I'm not watching Top Chef. Below Deck. Below Deck, the chef on Below Deck. He's kind of a rough character. He's kind of a rough character, but he's got an accent. He's British, but he's got an accent. And I think what's happening is he's covering his upper teeth with his lip at all time. At all times. So he's sort of he's and he's trying to sound, I think, posh or something.

SPEAKER_00 37:05

So he's always kind of like talking like he always says, shoe chef, shoe chef, shoe chef, Daisy. If Daisy can't get her act together, I'm doing bang up work in the galley with my shoe chef, my shoe chef, my shoe chef, my shoe chef, and I can't stop saying shoe chef, shoe chef, shoe chef, my shoe chef. Ellie, Ellie, Ellie, Ellie's my shoe chef, my shoe chef. I want her promote to shoe chef. Ellie should be promo promote Ellie to shoe chef. Daisy? Daisy? Daisy? I'm doing banging up banging up work, Daisy. Ellie should be shoe chef. Captain. Captain? Can we promote Ellie to shoe chef? Shoe chef. Shoe chef. Shoe chef.

SPEAKER_02 38:07

I don't like the man, but I can't get over his ac his accent. His accent. There's something it's very mid-Atlantic kind of. He's British. It's unusual, I think, to hear a British person do a mid-Atlantic accent. Usually it's an American doing a mid-Atlantic accent. So maybe that's why it's so hard to place. What what's going on? What's going on? Because he's shoe chefing. He's shoe chef. Shoe chef. Should I do a mid-Altantic ac mid-Atlantic accent? I can't I can't do accents. This is This has been established in my life.

SPEAKER_00 38:43

But I could just say shoe chef. Shoe chef. Shoe chef. Shoe chef. Shoe chef. Ellie. Everybody listen to my podcast. It's sort of a you gotta do the Catherine Hupba Catherine Hupman kind of shoe chefy. Yes. We should go and walk along the boardwalk. You see? You see? Me and my shoe chef. We got some work to do. Down by the docks. Yes. Yes. Oh, Carrie, I could I could possibly never do that. No. Because I I never reveal my upper lip when I'm talking. You see? You say? My shoe chef. She gets it. Ellie gets it. This is how I talk now. This is how I talk, because I want to feel fancy. I want to feel fancy and posh. I'm gonna be mid-Atlantic. Mid-Atlantic! Mid-Atlantic affectation. Never show my upper teeth.

SPEAKER_02 39:55

My upper teeth are some of my best teeth though, that's the problem. So I don't think I don't think that lifestyle is for me. Sadly. Maybe it's for you? Let me hear you say shoe chef. Shoe chef. Shoe chef. Shoe chef. Shoe chef. Can you do it? Send me a voice memo. No one's been sending me voice memos. It's okay. It's okay. I still love you. I still love you. I still love you. We're gonna babysit jazz. I don't think jazz really likes this podcast. Maybe nobody likes this podcast. That might be something. No, I like this podcast. And I like you.

SPEAKER_01 40:42

I like you.

SPEAKER_02 40:44

I like you, I love you, I adore you. I don't like this, but I love you.

SPEAKER_00 40:54

I don't like this, but I love you. I love ya. Love ya. Love ya. Love ya. Okay. Love ya. Ta-ta.