Have WWE Ringside Exclusives Lost Their Aura!?

Welcome to Episode #8 of the My Damn Creators Pod! This week, hosts MDT  and WSC catch up on their current feds and projects, sharing behind-the-scenes insights about filming, editing, creative decisions, and planning challenges. 

They dive into their signature Agree/Disagree prompts on hot-button topics like whether Mattel needs to make more Drew McIntyres, the declining hype of WWE Ringside Exclusives, the state of Roman Reigns Elites, collector attitudes toward figure accuracy, and whether MDT is too negative about new releases. The episode also explores the role of custom figures, both in personal collections and in the wider community—including tips, pitfalls, and their creative value.

 In the Mount Rushmore segment, the hosts each reveal their top 4 Rey Mysterio Mattel figures, discuss potential future releases, and reminisce about the most iconic Rey figures through the years. Whether you collect, customize, or just love pro wrestling figures, this episode is packed with opinions, deep dives, and constructive community debate!

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Transcript

SPEAKER_00 0:00

What is good, everyone? Welcome into episode eight of my damn creators. We are back again with another great episode. As always, I have my wonderful co-host over here, WSC Stage Creator. How are we doing, Nate? What's what's going on with you this late evening? Or early.

SPEAKER_01 0:17

Yeah, it's it's about midday for me. Yeah, I've been starting WrestleMania, got the arena up. Finally, looking good. I can finally get started filming, which I've already done.

SPEAKER_00 0:28

It looks really good. I dig I like how you have the like the stadium window back there. It looks sick as hell.

SPEAKER_01 0:33

Yeah, I know, right? Yeah, I really wanted those details. And yeah, it kind of delayed us a little bit to get the crowd, you know, how we wanted it. But yeah, I really wanted uh something that reflected Allegiance Stadium and the details of the arena. So yeah, I think it looks really cool, and I'm excited to get WrestleMania going. Real graps here. We got the multiversal championship on the line. Brock Lesnar versus Bron Breaker, Brock defending his title against him, you know, the intensity of Breaker, the power of Brock Lesnar. It's gonna be an epic matchup. Not something you'd usually see with the multiversal championship, just a one-on-one match. We'll see who the better man is, but yeah, it's gonna be a lot of fun.

SPEAKER_00 1:10

Let's go, man. Sounds sounds terrific. It looks exciting. I like the I dig it. I think it's like muted. It looks like it has a nice tone to it. I like I like the graphics. Everything looks really clean. So I think I think it's gonna add to it. I think it was worth it. But you know, me and you are really on board with, I don't know, we we'd rather wait a little bit and make sure it's perfect. You know, maybe that's that's like you know, people some people hate that, and then some people, you know, it's like a I guess a balance and a sacrifice you're you have to make. And some people, you know, they don't want to wait. And you know, there's like some different creative decisions you have to make there, but I think it, I think it's gonna work out perfect.

SPEAKER_01 1:47

Yeah, it's like the design is kind of supposed to be a little bit like daylight because you know, West Coast, Las Vegas, it's daylight most of the show in real life. So I wanted to it to reflect that has a little bit of a blue tint to it as well. But yeah, I really like how it turned out and you know, really excited to just just get into filming all these matches. But what about you? You've been working on the Fed. How's that gone?

SPEAKER_00 2:12

Yeah, man, it's been going good. I I know uh we discussed it a little bit beforehand, but I've you know, I've been trying to balance between editing and filming at the same time. I have I don't think I've ever really done that before. I usually I used to just you know film the full entire show and then edit it as much as possible. But back in the day, you know, the process was uh way different, really. I mean, like similar in ways, but you know, there's a lot more elements here that I'm trying to, you know, create and play with. And so, you know, it's uh yeah, I don't think you you can't just sit down and edit it in one full session. It takes multiple. It's gonna, I I don't even know if the full pro I may have to edit the project in multiple like formats and then bring them over just because of how big it's gonna be. I don't know. We'll have to see. I don't, I don't really know how that's gonna play out. I'm just kind of working through it slowly, but it's been fun, it's been challenging. I'm excited. I've it's been fulfilling too, you know, just to get back into the groove of things, been challenged as we mentioned. So I'm excited. I don't I don't think it's gonna be released. Uh I think I said early June. I think early June's still fair. What would you say? June 1st through the 10th. But I I mean, I was hoping right at the beginning of June, but I don't know if that's going to be possible. I'm shooting every day, I'm trying every day, but we know you don't give yourself a deadline in fedding. You know, it's it's not smart.

SPEAKER_01 3:27

Yeah. What what's the process, you know, with filming? You're doing like the vid fed style. Do you just take like one shot of things, or do you take multiple takes? Do you put it in the editing and see how it looks at the end, or do you do it as you're going? Like, how's that process gone for you?

SPEAKER_00 3:42

Yeah, so I've been I think certain things you can kind of get away with like doing multiple takes and just seeing how it doesn't post. But then as far as like sequences and the way things flow, I'm almost kind of doing like I have one project open where I'm doing the actual official thing, and then I have other projects open where I'm working, and that's that very specific part where it's not gonna be the official run. I'm just trying to see how it flows, if that makes sense. So I'm also you're doing like little tests. Yeah, like have have little tests of what I'm working on currently, and then I have the official thing where it's like this is exactly what's gonna look like. It's got the background noise, it's got the edited end stuff, all that different stuff. And I'm trying to like, you know, I kind of have like a triangle method going of trying to piece it together slowly. But yeah, I mean, I mean it's going good. It's just, you know, now it's about just finishing that process and getting it up.

SPEAKER_01 4:32

Yeah, how many things do you have left? Because you're doing like, you know, the it's MDT live, right? So you're doing like a couple segments and matches and stuff, like how far into it, and how much more do you have to do?

SPEAKER_00 4:44

I'd say I'm I'm pro I feel like I'm at the halfway point as far as total overall body of work, I think, or maybe just a little bit under that. I'd say maybe 40 to 45, 55 percent somewhere in there in that range. Because I like I told you, I'm really not even into the thick of the show really yet, and it's already pushing 15, 16 minutes. It's like it's it's crazy how I don't know the things flow, and you know, you're trying to let things breathe and stuff. So I don't know, it should be it should be interesting. But yeah, I'd say I'd say about that range. I'm hoping that that's accurate. And yeah, I mean, I'd I'd I like in my brain, you I think you probably relate to this. You're in your brain, you're like, oh, it's not that much, and then like you start doing it and you're like, oh damn, it's actually way more than I was expecting. I don't know, or you you underestimate how the workload.

SPEAKER_01 5:33

Yeah, we both kind of said like we want to get these out like before the end of June. And I'm trying to push for that. I'm trying to get the first match out, you know, maybe next weekend or this coming weekend, maybe just like end of June. Yeah, end of May, yes. Yeah, yeah. So yeah, end of May, yeah, that would be nice, but you know, with everything in fedding, like everything takes a lot longer than expected, you know, filming and just all the extra stuff, the editing and you know, all the things you have to do. I gotta organize, you know, the intro, you know, editing of that and the voiceover and the music and all those sorts of things as well. So yeah, it is a lot to do, but you know, I'm pushing for it, trying to get it done. And hopefully, you know, you can try and get it out by early June if you you think you can you might you might be able to get there if you get enough time to film.

SPEAKER_00 6:27

I yeah, I think so. I think it just comes down to just getting the reps in when you get when you have opportunities to get the reps in, you get the reps in, you know, and you don't yeah, I can just wait on the nice like nah, I just get even if it's like you know, three seconds worth of final time or you know, just a sequence or a spot or a a promo or you know, knock out some part of the process because you know there's like a there's a gigantic process when it comes to this stuff, and so it's like whether I'm I'm getting this sound effect or I'm getting this thing, whatever it is, trying to get like little portions of it done whenever possible, and then you know, just checking that list and then moving on to the next item of the process. That way you can you know handle it a lot better because I think if you if you look at it as oh, look at all this I have to do, it's very overwhelming very quickly. But if you're you know, you take one thing at a time, do it to the best of your ability, treat it like it has a life of its own, knock that out, move on to the next one. I think you you will come away way farther than you know, like I don't know, just ri being really restrictive and all that different stuff.

SPEAKER_01 7:32

Yeah, with with a full show and not just focusing on you know individual matches, but with a full show, there's a lot of stuff you have to think about planning the next thing as well. So there's yeah, there's so many elements, you know. I'm thinking about okay, what am I gonna do for the next match? What do I have to get ready for that? You know, I'm thinking about like creating custom graphics because I've got this stage. I don't know if you've gotten a chance to see the WrestleMania stage, but I've got this like curved screen that's like vertical and it represents a slot machine in Vegas, and so I'm gonna get like mostly custom graphics to you know go with that and fit on that screen. So yeah, that's another thing I gotta organize and stuff, but yeah, the there's a lot to do, but you know, I really just want to get stuck into filming and you know I'm excited about that.

SPEAKER_00 8:20

Yeah, 100%. And we talked about that. Remember, we were kind of like in Vegas, you know, we were throwing around ideas and you know, fantasy booking things and like throw it. What if you what if you tried this or what if we tried that? And so I'm glad to see like some of those elements like come into life that we, you know, like we had discussed them, but we hadn't really seen them, or you know, I hadn't seen what you came up with fully or fully, you know, planned out. And now to see it come to life is really exciting, you know. And so I'm excited to see where the matches go and everything. But I think staying a step ahead, I think balancing that with everything else is where it gets to difficult, which we've touched on before, where oh, if I if you want something for a specific thing, you have to think about it way beforehand, or it's not gonna be ready, or you're gonna delay yourself. You like have to set it up on like a staggered type, I don't know, delivery almost. Like if you want a specific, I don't know, like uh I don't know. This is just a random example. It's like, oh, I really need this head sculpt for Seth Rollins. Well, damn, I don't have that head sculpt. I'm gonna have to order that. Well, if you order that and you really want that head sculpt, you're gonna have to delay that, or you better think of that ahead of time, or it's gonna delay you. Those are like just these little things that you may run into.

SPEAKER_01 9:27

Yeah, and you have so much going on, like trying to get done what you're trying to do, that like you don't necessarily sometimes you you you forget to you know order that thing or organize that thing, and then when it comes time, it's like oh you don't have it ready in time, or you organize a thing like the crowd, and it's like things aren't working out, and it just doesn't come in time and it's out of your control a little bit, you know, things like that happen all the time, but yeah, there's a lot of things you got to organize with these shows.

SPEAKER_00 9:57

Yeah, I think that's like the big thing, man. You just it's trying to be as optimal with your planning as possible, and it's difficult when you're balancing everything and you are kind of you're like a one-man show. I mean, pretty much, right? You like you do every part of the process, which we talked about beforehand. But that is a little update, I guess, on both feds at the moment. We're gonna transition now into our agree disagree. We got some different prompts we're gonna get into. We're gonna discuss them a little bit. We got some we got some fun stuff here today. I'm excited to get into it with you, man. But I have my prompt thing. Are you do you have your prompt thing?

SPEAKER_01 10:29

I do have it this time, yes. Oh, let's not knock over the camera here.

SPEAKER_00 10:34

All right, all right, I'm ready to go. Let's go. All right, well, we're getting into the first prompt. The first prompt is a little bit of a this is one that's interesting here. Came across the desk, and it has to do with a specific superstar. And I don't I don't know how I feel about this one. We're gonna get into it now. We're starting off with the first prompt. Mattel could never make another Drew McIntyre. So Mattel Mattel like Mattel could never make a new Drew McIntyre, they don't have to make another Drew McIntyre ever again. And realistically, we would be fine. So I guess as collectors, if they never made another Drew McIntyre Elite, ultimate, basic, whatever, we like you it everything realistically, so I'm guessing you would be content. Like there is there a specific thing they need to do with Drew or do you think we have enough of what we have to be completely suffice?

SPEAKER_01 11:30

Oh, interesting.

SPEAKER_00 11:32

All right, you ready? I think oh yeah, I think I'm I think I'm good. All right, you ready? Okay, yeah. Three, two, one, three. Agree, agree, agree, agree, agree, okay. So you go first, you go first.

SPEAKER_01 11:53

Yeah, I mean, unless he changes his look drastically, they've perfected Drew McIntyre, and we've seen so many Drew McIntyres, they're all pretty much the same attire, just a little different colorways, but like we're pretty set with Drew McIntyre right now. And if he doesn't, if he doesn't change his look in any significant way, like we're fine with these figures. Like that Ultimate Edition is fantastic. Some of the latest elites are fantastic, the head scans are incredible. I I think they nailed it.

SPEAKER_00 12:25

Yeah, I mean, uh outside of maybe like could like I I'm not a big fan of them switching back to the or yeah, switching back to the lighter skin tone. Because you remember for a while there he had that lighter skin tone, and then they switched to I think a slightly darker skin tone, and it kind of made him look a little bit better. It kind of kind of brought it to life a little bit, and then they went back to the paler skin tone. I mean, outside of maybe that little dilemma there, I think you're correct. You know, I mean, would I prefer a brand new torso? Yes, but I think like realistically, his elites for the most part, like they, you know, they have double jointed arms. I think, you know, maybe not his most recent elite. I think they made it a little short, but if you go, there are plenty of Drew McIntyre figures that I think could suffice. You know, you get that meme face or whatever, which I think is terrific. I don't know if we we don't have a yelling head sculpt for Drew, which is something maybe we would like to.

SPEAKER_01 13:11

It was like a laughing one, but yeah, a screaming head scan you could do. But yeah, I mean that they pretty much nailed it. I don't think there's any need for uh a torso change. I mean, the dude's jacked. I think that he's definitely completely fits him, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 13:24

Yeah, I think that's more of like a you know, like that same, it's like the same thing over and over again, right? We see it with Ultimate Warrior and Bobby Lashley, and I know Bobby Lashley's not with WWE anymore, but you know, the John Cena. Well, now they've changed John Cena to something way worse, probably. But you know, there's you know, there's there's different things there, but yeah, I think Drew McIntyre too. I think there's enough parts out there where you could make a promo gear too, which I've I've even made a short on that before. So I made one as well recently, yeah. Yeah, like yeah, you're all set with Drew McIntyre right now. There you go. So yeah, but I will say, you know, like I love Drew McIntyre, so I want to see more Drew McIntyre. But yeah, I mean, as far as the prompt is concerned, realistically, I'd be okay. I think I'd live. So okay. Uh we're moving into the next one. This next one could get interesting. We have are you ready for this one? I'm ready. Let's go. Okay. WWE Ringside Exclusives have lost their aura. WWE ringside exclusives have lost their aura. Now, I think over the years we've seen like different things, but I'm just gonna keep it flat here. WWE Ringside Exclusives have lost their aura. Okay. Are you ready? I'm ready. Three, two, one. Agree. Okay, okay, okay. I'll go first this time if you're good with that. I mean, I think I don't know, and I don't want it to be uh just like nostalgia talking or something, right? But I guess and I think we're I don't know. I think I think it's the the kind of era we've seen unfold here lately, especially just the amount of re-releases we're seeing, or the amount of I maybe just the total number of figures we're seeing, I think maybe plays into that too, where we're not we're getting so many figures that it's it's turned into more quantity. You know, it used to be like the quality was up here, but there was low, there was low quantity and high quality, and now it kind of seems like the quality has dipped down, but the quantity is has dipped up. And so, you know, you're used to bangers like the ringside exclusive flash ray and the cane and the straight edge punk and the you know, all these rated R edge, like these ones that people think of as like, oh dude, you know. But yeah, it just seems like in recent years, I don't know, and maybe it's me just you know, old man yelling at the clouds, or maybe it's because I'm a a bit older now, but it feels like they just don't have that same excitement level. Or I I don't know. I I just think that, or maybe they used to the selections were maybe a lot better back in the day. And maybe Mattel has picked, you know, included those selections maybe that would have been picked maybe in the Ultimate Edition line, or these Monday Night Wars lines, or these all these different lines they've created. Maybe those figures took spots away from ringside exclusives, you know. Like we did have Money in the Bank Punk Ultimate. That's a fantastic ringside exclusive right there. That that reminds me of those exciting times. I think that the first and second series of the From the Vault were incredible. Like that right there, that was really exciting. It just maybe seems like lately it kind of took a dip, but maybe I'm just maybe I'm just thinking of Uncle Howdy and that you can't see me, John Cena, and that's just kind of flooding my my mind and making me look upon you know, maybe that's having an effect on me. I don't know. What are what's your thoughts there? How do you feel about you know previous ones? And I think I I feel like age and maybe time has a effect on that, but I don't know. Maybe I'm maybe I don't know what I'm talking about.

SPEAKER_01 16:54

Well, the prompt was they've lost their aura. That's not to say that they haven't made great ringside exclusives, because they definitely have, and they are continuing to make great ringside exclusives for WWE and Mattel. But you know, back in the day, they whenever a ringside exclusive, whenever a ringside exclusive dropped the pre-order, like there was a ton of hype around it. I'm talking like early 2010s, and then I think around like maybe 2017-2018, we started to get a few bad selections, bad figures, shield card angle, just a just a crazy pick. The selections and you know, some of the figures, execution, they started to get worse, and then you know, they ramped up the the quantity of those re-release waves and the defining moments and all those things as well. And I feel like now they're not as special anymore, I guess. It's like ringside exclusives aren't as you know, I don't know, valuable or like people really care about it as much as they did back in the day. What do you think about that?

SPEAKER_00 18:04

Yeah, I was gonna say you made me think of a an extra point here. I think also maybe the death of Toys R Us may play a role in that. You know, I you remember when Toys of Russ had this is just a good example here. You remember there was a point in time when Toys of Russ put out that cash-in Toys of Russ exclusive, Seth Rollins, and at the same time, Ringside had just put up ECW Punk and Rated R Edge and these really, really cool ringside exclusives. I don't that right there was just so fun to me. I don't know what that was. I don't know if it was the the I re I really do love that packaging too, but I don't know if it was the packagings were much better back in the day. Yeah, like I really don't have the special packaging really. Yeah, because I think that would be really fun because and maybe again, maybe it's the nostalgia talking. Maybe we're just you know, we're just you know a couple or we're a couple unks now, you know.

SPEAKER_01 18:58

And we're uh in the community, I don't know if the hype is as much for the ringside exclusives these days. Do you feel that way? Do you feel like there's a lot of hype around them?

SPEAKER_00 19:08

Yeah, I don't know. You know, and ringside recently has had to pick up a lot of lines, right? They've had they've adopted the new the calcium collection line. They've you know they've they've had a lot of new things added. Where again, I think you know, Toys of Rust going out, that allows for ringside to pick up these these new exclusives because there's nowhere for them to really go. You know, they have their Walmart, they have their Target, they have their Amazon, they have their ringside now, where Toys of Rust maybe would have filled that hole. Now you have them stepping up and they they can collect more of that stuff. And maybe that, excuse me, maybe that just adds to the I don't know, like you were talking about. I I don't know. And again, maybe it's just age. Maybe we we're just we're just old as dirt now. And so they they just don't, you know, maybe they don't feel as but I don't know, maybe we're wrong. But I I do think that it's almost like they had this sort of mystique around them or something, and now it it doesn't feel as much that way. I still think, again, like you stated, I think there are absolute bangers. I think, you know, just the defining moments line being a ringside exclusive too, that that I don't even know if that would be a thing, maybe if if Toys of Russ didn't exist. I'm not I'm not entirely sure, right? Who knows? Who knows what would have happened there? But in terms of like Torn Peck Cody, all-time exclusive, that's a fantastic figure. The I think those first two, those first two Vault Waves were pretty much re-releases of a lot of ringside exclusives, or you know, they had some baked in there, which I thought was incredible too. And they almost felt like Undertaker is Kane was a fun one. You had WrestleMania Chris Jericho from his matchup with HBK. Like these hardcore Kane, I don't know, these were just like iconic picks and selections, and it just doesn't seem like they're as iconic now with the picks or something. I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 20:51

Yeah, what do you think? What do you feel about like the defining moments line? Like, wouldn't it be better if like we got that Penta and he had his own special packaging? I think wouldn't that have more or ringside exclusive?

SPEAKER_00 21:05

100%, 100%, and I think that's I think that's also where AEW and Jazzworth did really good because you see here I said WWE ringside exclusives because I think AEW did a really good job of making those one of one. You know, we had got Takeshta, we got these Jay White, we like these are Danhausen, like these figures had specific packaging specifically designed for this ringside exclusive, and it's ringside, it's got the sticker on there. I don't know. There was something about that. I think maybe the defining moments line had something to do with it where it's like imagine if they did a torn peck Cody and the all the packaging is torn pet Cody from the Hell in a Cell, and on the back you got him yelling, and it's real big, and you got that bio, and he's got the torn peg, and he's I don't know that would be yeah. I think maybe artists, maybe the packaging and the the the and not just the packaging like the box itself, the packaging of the marketing and the selling it is a little different now because it's kind of lost its identity.

SPEAKER_01 22:00

I guess now using the defining moments rather than having their own special packaging. That's how I feel. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 22:06

Man, you we may be cooking right here now because now my mind's going if there was a Ray Phoenix ringside exclusive, and you wouldn't even have those people that bitch about, and like I play a part in this too, like LA Night defining moments. Like, what do we do? Why is that a defining moment? Like, and I I think there may have been some picks that didn't belong in the defining moments line. And people do love the defining moments line, but the defining moments line also would it might be viewed more fondly in the modern day if it really was strictly picking things that are defining moments. And then separately you had ringside one-off exclusives, and we don't know the behind the scenes on how that would work, or maybe it's not, maybe it's better business-wise and numbers-wise to do it the way that they do it. But you know, Ricky Saints, I love Ricky Saints. I want the best for him. The figure's not bad whatsoever, but putting in the defining moments line, I think had it been its own one-off figure, probably would have done better. Ray Phoenix, Pinta, like you said, that would have been an all-timer, and it probably is still an all-timer. But imagine black and white packaging. You got the ninja blades and stars, you have like him doing the the Saro Miyota. Like now in my head, I'm like, oh, dude, that would be now.

SPEAKER_01 23:16

I'm now I'm thinking, like, is the defining moments line like really that special? Like, wouldn't it just be better? Like, well, how do you feel about the defining moments line? Is it really the selling point, the packaging, and the nostalgia? Do people care that much about it?

SPEAKER_00 23:32

I think you're probably right there, you know. Um, and that kind of goes hand in hand with the from the vault, too. They're kind of attacking that nostalgia point, you know, they're they're re-releasing these figures, but they're putting it in that you know, golden era of Mattel or the you know, people remember fondly era where they're like, you know, here it is in this box. It just looks beautiful. And don't get me wrong, it does. It does look beautiful. I don't know. That's something that I haven't really thought about, but I do agree that the defining moments line. I think also four figures is a lot. I think I think having four figures in there instead of maybe well, I know they switch they switched to two recently. It's like two per quarter or whatever it is now. But yeah, maybe that's maybe we're on to something right there. I don't know. I would love to hear people's takes down below on that.

SPEAKER_01 24:13

Yeah, maybe it's cheaper to not have specific packaging, and then they're leaning on the nostalgia of those packagings, I guess, to sell the figures. But I feel like you know, the aura that we're talking about would be gained if like that torn peck Cody or the even the ultimate edition punk. Like, I guess that people want to collect the ultimate editions and have the same boxes and everything, but I feel like custom boxes for that would be sick. I think you the Penta 100% could have had its own packaging.

SPEAKER_00 24:44

Well, with the punk, are you saying the punk had aura because it had its own custom packaging? Like that light blue box is sick as hell. I thought that was its own custom packaging. Yeah, it had yeah, it had its own, yeah, it had its own light blue, it had the Chicago theme around the gear, and it really reminded me of that golden era or that, you know, the I don't know, it hit me in the field. I think the packaging really sells the figure, and not that I don't love the defining yeah, like in the defining moments packaging is great. I love the defining moments packaging, but I don't I don't know how I don't and maybe it's just worn down because of the selection. I don't know. I don't really know. I would love to feel like it makes it funnier.

SPEAKER_01 25:21

It makes especially a ringside exclusive less unique and they all kind of blend together visually.

SPEAKER_00 25:28

That's a good point. That's a good point there. I yeah, I'm very I don't know, maybe I going into this prompt, I had like ideas, but now that we've gotten a discussion, this is what I love about the podcast. I think that now I've gotten like a whole new, like, I don't know, that kind of like triggered something in my brain right there. So that was good. I like that. Yeah, the the ultimate money in the bank punk reminded me of of of that kind of you know, that aura that we're talking about there. And I think that yeah, it just was packaged a lot better. It looks really, I don't know, premium when it's got that custom packaging. And and not that again, defining moments packaging is good, it's great, it's some of the better packaging they do, but I think that once you get it over and over and over and over and over again, uh maybe it loses a special touch.

SPEAKER_01 26:14

I feel so I feel like that's the case for sure, and especially you know, the the selections of Uncle Howdy. I don't know if we're still getting that, I guess. I don't know if it's up for pre-order or not, but Uncle Howdy and LA Knight and things like that, it does lose its lusser.

SPEAKER_00 26:27

Yeah, yeah. I I think that one's been up for a while. I think it's still gonna come out, and yeah, that one did not get received well. That one did not get received well whatsoever, and yeah, you hate to you hate to see that there, but I'm ready to move on to the next prompt if you are ready to move on to the next prompt. I am okay. Next up is going to be Roman Reigns elites are perfect now with the new formula, so they don't need to do any tweaking, it's perfect the way it is. They can just print any Roman Reigns attire now on that formula, and all will be right in the world. Are you ready? I'm ready. Three, two, one. Oh, I thought you were gonna go the other way. Okay, no, yeah, disagree, man. You go first on this one.

SPEAKER_01 27:15

Yeah, I disagree. I feel like the torso looks good, but I think it's too wide, and it hurts the articulation of bringing the arms in. And I do not like that, especially as someone who films action figure matches and stuff. So posing that around isn't as good as you know the previous elite Roman Reigns torsos and stuff. And you know, the prompter was elites, right? It's not it's not ultimate.

SPEAKER_00 27:40

Yeah, it's elites, Roman Reigns elites, because I wanted to really tie in that new torso formula. That new torso, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 27:46

That's my problem with it. It's just two wide lats and it just hinders the articulation of the arms.

SPEAKER_00 27:52

Yeah, I I think I would agree there. I think the aesthetic of it is pretty close to perfect, yeah, but I think it's the functionality now, is a little bit, and I think I don't really know if it's because of pinless or what, but I don't I don't think it it doesn't, it's not perfect when it comes to moving, like you said. And they just upgraded the gauntlets for some reason. I don't know why they changed the the gauntlet size, so I think that also plays a part. The bigger gauntlets have grown on me slightly, but I think I do prefer the shorter gauntlets. I think that it was a little bit, I think it was one of those unnecessary changes. Like it's not broke, don't fix it type deal. But I mean, I understand they're trying to, you know, evolve and put new things into the line. Maybe I don't know. I I'd I'd be interested to know if when they put new things into the line, if it's a like testing the waters, oh, if people don't like that, take it back. I think once they tool something, it's like we got to use that as much as possible. And I think they're gonna to justify their own like decision that yeah, it's kind of it's kind of like pro sports, right? Like, okay, I paid a lot of money for this quarterback. If we suck, we're going to hell with him because we're not, I'm not, I pay him way too much to put him on the bench. Like, we're gonna try and get this guy to work, and that's I think that's unless there's literally no option or you have a rookie or somebody you want to test, but that's like the kind of things that I think you see is you know, like I don't like Cody Rhodes' new feet, like clown feet, they're not gonna adjust that. It's gonna be a very long time before they ever change that again, if they ever do, you know, and that's kind of the I don't know the thing.

SPEAKER_01 29:25

With the new Roman Reigns Elite, it's like I you know commend them for trying something with the the gauntlets, but yeah, unnecessary change, unnecessary money to spend on you know the budget with that, and to like try and you know make new details or improve it in some way, and then go ahead and like miss the detail of the Superman punch logo on the tights, and then not even give like a we the ones hand on that white attire WrestleMania figure. That it's it's just weird. It's like where are you putting your focus on?

SPEAKER_00 29:59

You know, yeah, that's interesting too when you say it like that because it's almost I don't know, you you add to one thing and it takes away from another, yeah. And yeah, I guess it kind of just depends on I guess what you value with the figure, right? Um, yeah, yeah, but I I mean again, I still I think the new torso is still great again. Aesthetically, I think it looks great. I think it's good enough to pose with and what have you, but I don't think it's perfect, and that's what the prompt reads. The prompt reads they're perfect now, and I don't think that's true. So that's why I disagree with it, that's why you disagree with it. Yeah, far from perfect, but hopefully we'll get some better ones in the future here. But the next one is going to be about me, apparently. And the next one is going to be MDT isn't too negative or harsh on figures. So I'm too negative or I'm too harsh on figures. All right, are you ready? Okay. All right, let's go. Be honest now. Don't don't fart around.

SPEAKER_01 31:00

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 31:01

All right. I'm gonna give you my honest take too. Okay, ready? Okay, three, two, one. Disagree. I disagree. Okay, yeah. Uh yeah, you go you go first, or you want me to go first?

SPEAKER_01 31:15

I'll go first. I feel like you are really passionate about you know figures, and you just want the best quality work from Mattel because you know they're capable of it. And I don't like the fact that people like think you're so negative about you know all these things because you just want the best product out there, you're not settling for mediocrity, you want the best product from Mattel, and Mattel is capable of great things, and I think you just call that out, and I think that's why people appreciate your reviews because you really go into detail on these figures.

SPEAKER_00 31:49

Well, I appreciate that, first of all. I do appreciate that. And yeah, I don't like that's not the you know, that's not the job. When I press record and I'm reviewing something, I'm not going into like I may have a pre, you know, a pre like you know, we get renders, we get images of these figures, and once you've been around for the line, we've been collecting this line for over 10 years. We know you some things you know about the line because you've you've been there, you know how the factories work until we get the recent change, like you know how these things, these formulas, these things operate. And sometimes you'll get shocked through things. And I love when that happens. I love when something shocks me, comes through the door, and it's like, damn, this is actually really impressive. I love that they tried this or that they did this. But my the I'm never ever going into a review thinking, how can I slam this figure or how can I be negative? I take what is ever in front of me and I give you my honest, authentic, real thoughts and opinions as they're happening real time in my brain. So if I think something in my brain about a specific part or something, I'm literally flowing it out of my mouth to you, the listener, in the review. And then like narratives can change, my thoughts can change as days go by, as I play with it more, as we get into it, as the video goes on. But I don't ever go into it trying to be negative or bring down or crap on somebody's favorite figure. That's the last thing I'm trying to do. I'm just giving you my authentic, real honest opinion about it. And like you said, I am very passionate about this. If that's not clear, you know, I say it often, I love the yap about, you know, wrestling action figures, Mattel specifically, and you know, this space that we're in. And yeah, I'm just passionate about it, man. And so things that I'm passionate about, I tend to have like a, I wouldn't say nitpickiness, you just have like a standard, I guess. And when things aren't up to the standard, then you just call it out and you say, Hey, I think this could be improved in this way. And if you disagree with that, that's fine. But just because some it's something you disagree with that, you disagree with, or just because you don't like my opinion, doesn't mean that it's negative, if that makes sense. You know, just because I say, Oh, this head sculpt's not right, or this shirt color's not right, I'm not saying we should dunk on this, I'm just bringing it to people's attentions, like, hey, this isn't correct, this could be improved upon, and that's all it is. But I appre I'm glad that you don't think that I'm too negative. And I hope people I hope people don't think that I'm too negative. I I do laugh at some of those comments, you know, and I think I made a video one time about the new top picks Glasgow Cena where it's got the pocket on the side, and it's I think the title of the video was This John Cena Pissed Me Off or something. And I mean it was just ridiculous some of the things that that figure had, but I think one of the top comments was MF or what figure doesn't piss you off. And I thought that like it made me laugh, but I mean, I guess it's kind of a running joke or something, but I don't know. I I don't think I'm too negative. If you I think I'm equally as positive as I am negative, if you will. Like I praise a whole ton of stuff. I'm always positive when when it's meant to be praised, like always, and I'm never you know, I'm not dunking on these people. I think the Mattel design team does fantastic things, you know, and sometimes you know, quality doesn't like expectations don't meet what we get, you know. Maybe a rent like Stephanie Vicare on paper, it looked like it was gonna be perfect. Then it came out, head sculpt just didn't look like her. Like sometimes factories make mistakes, there's a whole bunch of stuff there, but yeah, there you go. There's my soapbox I can get off of, I guess. But yeah, you have anything else to add?

SPEAKER_01 35:17

No, I think I think everyone's entitled to their opinion and you know how they feel about the figures, but it doesn't make you negative because you uh more detail oriented than you know other collectors.

SPEAKER_00 35:32

Yeah, for sure, for sure. I think that yeah, and yeah, like I think we we we actually have this is the next prompt right now. I can go to the next prompt that kind of flows into it. The next prompt is most collectors don't care about accuracy, they don't care about these details, or they don't care about details, you know. That's just a flat thing. Most collectors that collect WWE action figures or wrestling figures don't care about accuracy or details.

unknown 35:59

Ready?

SPEAKER_00 36:00

Agree, disagree. Ready? Yeah, agree, disagree. Ready?

SPEAKER_01 36:03

Mm-hmm. Agree.

SPEAKER_00 36:06

Agree. Also agree. I think, yeah, I you go first on this one. I feel like I've been yapping.

SPEAKER_01 36:11

Yeah, it's it's like, you know, we care deeply about like getting the best quality from Mattel and you know, pushing them to, you know, do their best work because we know they're capable of it. But then it's like, you know, a lot of people out there just are happy to get figures and they don't care about the the details. And, you know, maybe there's certain figures that come out and they see it and they go, oh, that looks great, but then they don't know that it's inaccurate in certain ways, and that's fine. You know, I have figures like that where it's like I don't know all the details of what it's supposed to look like, so it might look good in my eyes, but I don't know about those details that are incorrect. But you know, I feel like if you're gonna make a figure representing something, you should do your best to make it accurate, and they're more than capable of doing that. So I don't see how you know those mistakes fall through the cracks. And yeah, it is true that some fans don't care about the details, and it's unfortunate that you know there might be a chance that Mattel purposely, you know, does things or takes shortcuts because they know that people don't care about certain details.

SPEAKER_00 37:20

Yeah, I I I think you hit a lot of great points right there for sure. The end of the day, you know, I think that we do have great representatives for the line, right? I think the people that work on the figures are passionate about wrestling figures. So, you know, Steve, Bill, Magic, Colton, all these guys that are on the design team, I think they genuinely to their core, they care about what they make, they want to make the best figures, they love wrestling, they love all things that have to do with their jobs. Like, I genuinely think that. If this were back in early 2000s, the 90s, the 80s, whenever wrestling fig dude, back in the day, it was just like, let's make a Hulk Hogan, and they just made it like the first attempts, like, oh yeah, it's good enough, whatever. It'll it'll make money because it's Hulk Hogan. I think that they do try to make the best figures. And I think the there's there's way too many figures nowadays, realistically, right? They make way too many figures. And so you're gonna get you're gonna get those things that slip through the cracks. Like that's just that's just part of life. Like that's going to happen. It's just about minimalizing that. And obviously, if you hold a certain moment or a certain thing in high regard, you're going to notice those things because you're not necessarily looking for it, but you know, like you said with Roman Reigns, like, okay, that Superman Punch logo was clearly there and it's not there, it's gonna stand out to you because, like, oh, what how would that happen? I mean, it's uh it's a glaring thing, and even the basic has it, right? So it if you hold that moment, maybe you went to that show and you saw Roman Reigns and you're like, oh, look, like you know, you tie that back to your own memories of watching the product, and so obviously you want it to look like you saw it. But of course, as the prompt says, most collectors they don't care about accuracy because they just want Roman Reigns. I just want Spider-Man, I just want this or that. It doesn't matter about, oh, it doesn't have the little fish netting on the thing or oh, the Superman logo's missing. Who cares? Like, yeah, I agree with you to a certain extent, but at the same time, I think you probably agree with me too. You I feel like you should you should whole ass everything. Like you should put your best foot forward, you should try to make it the best figure as possible, and that's not happening if it's leaving off this these details. And I think figures are better overall when they have those details. I think it's correct, you know. People always point out the oh, look at that. Look, they even got the little tiny thing on his chin, or look, they even have the little face tattoo, or look, they have his earrings. Like, oh my god, like Bianca Bel Belair has removable earrings, could have easily left them out and nobody would give a damn. But when you execute it, you take a mid-subpar, yeah, it's just a wrestling action figure to holy crap, that looks it, that looks like Bianca Belair shrunk down into figure form. And again, I don't know, I'm just obsessed with this kind of stuff. So it's, you know, I think, but I don't think that's most collectors, and that's what the prompt says. You know, Mattel, at the end of the day, if it makes more money, Mattel's probably gonna go with that option. And I understand that from a business perspective. Like I get that, but I don't I don't live in that world. I would rather make like I I they're not I don't get paid for that, you know. I'm not getting any of that money. I want the figures to be good, I want the video game to be good, I want the product on the field to be good, I want the things to be good. I don't care about the money or whatever, but that they're business, like they care about that bottom line. So that's where it comes in. And they can if they can put out something and save a little money here and there, they're probably gonna do it. Not every time, but it makes that, yeah. There you go. That's my yeah.

SPEAKER_01 40:43

If they if we celebrate the great details that they do put in, we also have to acknowledge the things that they miss as well, because we know what they're capable of. We know that they can execute, execute on those things. So it's unfortunate when you know certain figures they feel like they're missing something, and you know, it just at that point, it's like you really like why do you even collect? You want a version of that character in that look to put on your shelf or to use in any creative way you want, and when it's missing certain things, you you know, I care about it, you care about it. But there are some people out there who's just like, oh, Roman Reigns, you know, John Cena, it looks pretty cool, okay. And you know, and they're fine with that, but yeah, saying you're too negative for you know caring about those details, I don't think that's fair.

SPEAKER_00 41:36

Yeah, I yeah, I could see that. I could say that that'd be like, I don't know. I guess it just depends. It's like it depends on how deep into the weeds are you, right? It depends on your just your passion level for it, you know. Like you could say that about I don't know, people that get upset about their sports team losing. It's like at the end of the day, like, yeah, it puts you in a bad mood, but at the end of the day, like your day-to-day life isn't gonna change really if you know the Packers lose or whoever. But it's like I ri like I want my I want to compete, I want to win, I want to, I want to put the best foot forward. So it's like, I don't know. I think that's I think obviously they're not the same, but that's how kind of I view it. Like it I feel like you should always strive to do your very best. And I I've seen the very best that they can do, so I want to see that consistently because it makes the best product for every collector. Yeah, I agree. Alrighty, nice. Well, that I had a lot of fun with that agree-disagree. That was a fun agree-disagree segment right there. That entire I'm talking about the whole entire thing. That was really good. I really appreciate that. If anybody has any agree-disagree prompts down below that you would like to see us debate on or whatever, then definitely leave those down below. Nate, are you ready to move into our topic discussion today? Or is there anything else you'd like to add? No, let's do it. Let's get into it. The topic discussion for today is going to be custom WWE figures and their place in collections. So I guess I can just uh I can start off here. I mean, you know, I think uh in this realm, you see a lot of customs. I think there's a lot of customs out there. I would even argue that even just action figures in general, I think custom action figures and customs have grown to be a very significant part of the community. I think that it's a large portion of the community. I would like to know, I don't know, uh I'd like to see a poll or a study done on this, but I'm willing to bet that any collector that's not just buying figures here and there, if anybody's like decently really into this, they've at least done a fix up or something, right? They've changed the head sculpt, they've customized a little, right? I would think that that would be a thing. What do you think on customs? How would you like to start off?

SPEAKER_01 43:48

Yeah, there's like a lot of people, I bet were inspired by you. I bet you get told all the time by parents of like, oh, my my kids are inspired by you to use the hairdryer on the The figures pop off the heads. It happens a lot, actually. That's one of the top things that I hear. Yeah. And so I think everyone does fix-ups and customs in some way. And yeah, I think custom figures are fantastic. I use a lot in my show to have, you know, unique specific looks or figures that aren't, you know, readily available to buy. So I think, yeah, customs are great. There's so many aspects of customs that we're going to get into. I feel like, you know, when I was a kid, I didn't have anyone like you or anything to be inspired by in terms of customizing it, but it just came naturally to me to like, okay, let me get a Sharpie or something and you know, do do some customization, put a beard on this figure and you know make different characters and different looks. But I feel like I was like way too young to be doing that. I feel like I was ruining the good figures just to try and make it look a little different, even though it's great how it is. So I feel like certain young folks out there should put down the Sharpie. And I have an old video on my channel of like a funeral of all the old figures that I destroyed with Sharpies and things like that. But yeah, I feel like everyone is like inspired to, you know, create customs and change their figures up. I think young kids should kind of refrain from that a little bit unless you're a little bit skilled, because they're like downgrading the figures a little bit.

SPEAKER_00 45:30

Yeah, I think you haven't, I think every what is it, a canon event that they talk about? Every WWE collector or action figure collector possibly has that one canon event where they try to be a customizer at least one time and you use the Sharpie or you use the washable marker or you use something to try and fix a figure or change a figure and you messed it up or you destroy. I have destroyed so many figures, as we know, not only on surgeries and different fix-up tutorials and stuff, but even before I was making videos, man, I was destroying figures and you get very frustrated very quickly. It's definitely a skill. There are so many insanely talented customizers out there that deserve their flowers that deserve. And I think customizing has also just come so far, right? Because, you know, back in the day, it would just be okay, maybe they would just be paint markers or acrylic paints in a little bottle like at Walmart. And now you have these model kits and these different things that come out where the paint is specifically made for action figures. You have the people that can 3D print head sculpts that look identical to the talents that never existed. I mean, can you can you imagine like I can't even like fathom what that would have been like as a kid, you know, getting these things available? And I know like not all kids are on social media buying these things, but even if your dad or somebody could get online and oh dad, look, this guy made a custom head sculpt or whatever, and you can upgrade your displays and you can do all these really fun, creative things. And sometimes, A, like nowadays, like AEW and Jazzwares, we're not gonna get another MJF. MJF tonight, double or nothing happened tonight. Well, we're not gonna get that gear. We're not getting that gear, man. The only way you could get that is by custom figures. So I think that they absolutely deserve their place. I've been a customizer and uh a custom collector for years, and I just love to create, right? So I I enjoy painting and drawing and all these different things. So I think it really brings figures to life when you can take a figure and even just part swapping, not just painting and stuff, but I always talk about this, not just the creativity of it, but taking a figure that Mattel gives us and then maybe taking one thing from this figure, one thing from this figure, maybe they left off a detail, but this other thing has it somehow, or these boots from this other figure look more like the boots and they should have used these or whatever. And you you can I call it a Frankenstein effort where you take a bunch of parts from different figures, you combine them, and you can create your own unique look that nobody else really has thought of or created. I love that. I think that's so fantastic. And you know, you get you find people like I don't know if it existed before, but you know, that's where the what's the formula, you know. I kind of am like memeing Mr. Krabs, and like, what's the formula? Because you're like, you know, you're trying to come up with these things, and I think that's brilliant.

SPEAKER_01 48:12

Yeah, I think instead of using a Shoppy, I think like fixing up figures, I think that's the best place to start is just mixing matching parts and just giving a different look to your figures, you know, changing the boots or the arms. Like there's so many different things you can do there that's fun. I think you know, there's some downsides too, though, to buying custom figures. It depends, are you putting them on a shelf or are you using them in an action figure match capacity? Because using them in action figure matches, you know, these 3D printed heads, sometimes they're prone to chipping. Like in my recent Barnyard match, I had that BW Brock Lesnar head. German suplex, bang, figure other figure lands on his face, his nose is scratched off with the paint, and he's got that black mark, and it's because it's a hand-painted, you know, head scan, correct. And that's unfortunate, or like the 3D printed, you know, head scans, some of the hair pieces they can chip off as well. They're prone to that. You know, the you know, the attires and stuff, the paint can wear off and chip and things, so they're not perfect for you know action figure matches, but I think it's better than nothing if you're trying to get a figure that's like not available.

SPEAKER_00 49:27

Yeah, 100%, man. And the you know, it's because it's not created in a factory, of course, these customs they're going to be prone to mistakes. You can't always prevent joint rub, you can't always prevent these things. It's really it's almost impossible, right? There are some methods here and there, but I don't think they're not perfected, right? I think that you know, there are some fantastic customizers out there that can get it right. But yeah, like you said, they, you know, if you I mean, obviously, if you're slamming figures together, doing these things and the constant rubbing and stuff. I saw that with my Roman Reigns head sculpt. Um, my two beautiful Roman Reigns head sculpts that I use in my Fed that BEW made, they're absolute perfection. And because of the constant feding and different things like that, I have experienced, you know, chipping or in transit, like I didn't do a proper protection job, and so they got damaged or whatever. And it's like, damn, these are so beautiful. I want to take care of them. But like you said, you put them in matches and stuff. It's like, how realistic is that? You know, and that comes into play. But I think putting them up on display, man, oh my goodness gracious alive, you can really bring a whole you can just bring you can bring a figure to life with with some of these things that that people do. And yeah, I think that you know it I guess it just depends on I think I there's also people, you know, that they swear off customs. They don't maybe they don't believe in them, which is a weird thing to say, right? It's like I don't believe in custom figures, but there's some people that they want to keep their collection like free of any customs, they only want what Mattel makes or what officially came out, and they don't, you know, they don't take in customs, they don't care about them. They, if it wasn't made by Mattel, it wasn't official, it wasn't made in a factory, they don't really acknowledge it. What do you think there?

SPEAKER_01 51:09

I think that's fair because you know if you're starting to collect customs, that could be a big money trap as well, because then you just opened up a whole nother door, and now you're like, okay, I need this gear, I need this gear, and you're just gonna go down the rabbit hole, and now you've you're buying all these customs up. So yeah, if you wanted to have a rule for your collection, like you could definitely say, Okay, I don't need any customs only officially made figures. So I think that's a a fair rule for people, but yeah, I think customs are great, and I think specifically for like the creative side of things, I think having customs is good because you kind of need it in some cases, but yeah, it's I think it's really a choice if you want to have them for display.

SPEAKER_00 51:55

Yeah, I guess it's just you know, it's all about how how deep of a need is it, you know. I you know, like like edge right now, it's not under WWE contract. Well, there's a maybe there's a gear that Mattel never made. You want edge in that gear, and they they haven't made it, and you don't know if they'll ever make it. So, yeah, but like that's your only route. You have to customize it or wait a decade or however long it takes. Maybe never, maybe that doesn't happen. And you have to you have to do that. If you want that moment, you gotta create it yourself, you gotta order it yourself from these customizers, and that's just the way of the game. But yeah, like yeah, 100%. I mean, you make your own rules for your own collection, right? I mean, that's it's your collection, you have fun with it. That's the whole point of it. And I think customs really digs deep into that, it really brings out that creativity, like we were talking about. So you get a lot with that, and I I just love it. I love I love to see what people come up with. It's my favorite thing. I love I love to see, like I said, formulas people come up with formulas, yeah. Yeah, like hacks people come up with, um, head sculpts people create, championships people create. And sometimes, if not a lot of the times, like these these customs can be better than the official things sometimes.

SPEAKER_01 53:09

100%, especially with the formulas, like you were saying. Like, there's a I had a Javon Evans custom recently that had a much better formula than the the real thing. So they there's customizers out there proving that they might know a little bit better than you know the Mattel designers in terms of like the parts selection and stuff like that.

SPEAKER_00 53:29

Yeah, I also think that's why they're important to the community too, because you know, that has happened in the past where Mattel gives us somebody, and then later then it's like not a great formula, I don't like it, other people don't like it, and then a customizer comes along, puts out a new formula, people see it, it's shared, whatever it gets around, and then Mattel implements it into the line. We saw it with AJ Styles before. I'm sure there's other instances of this, you know. Finn Balor, I don't know if a customizer decided this, but maybe those early demons were just rushed out. But they had the Daniel Bryan torso, and then they switched it to the more ripped-up torso. I don't know again entirely, but yeah, the I think they're really important. They need to, they need to continue creating. And I think that's just part of being a human being is creation and stuff like that. I don't know. That's a whole deep lore topic, but I've talked about that beforehand with people. I don't know if I've ever talked to you about it, but it's almost like human, it's like baked into our creation, our own design to create things ourselves. You think back to like cavemen painting on the wall and stuff like that. Like we're, you know, when human beings were first placed on the earth, you know, like you create things to to help yourself or you create things like art has always been really big and you create, and I think that kind of ties into that. It's very, very, I don't know, wild. And you can go, there's a million things you can, you know, ways you could take that, but I don't know. It's just crazy. But yeah, customs are insane.

SPEAKER_01 54:58

Yeah, we're all creators at heart for sure. But yeah, in terms of you know, me dabbling in customizing, I've tried, I've never fully dived into it. Like I've never done a torso crack before. I've painted certain things, but I'm not like I don't know all the tips and tricks, but yeah, I've never really gotten the hang of it like maybe you have. But yeah, I prefer to get you know people to to design that stuff for me. I wish I could do a lot of it myself, but you know, I just I'm talented at, you know, I guess making stages, but you know, the customizing thing ain't for me. But yeah, how do you feel about you know customizing and learning all the customization tips and tricks?

SPEAKER_00 55:37

Yeah, it's a lot, there's a lot to it. It's almost again a niche within a niche, right? It's not just WWE figure collecting, but you're learning like these parts and what connects with what and what doesn't work, and you know, these methods of making these customs in terms of torso cracking, like you mentioned, or you know, you got uh the boil and pop method and these different things, you know. Now the heads are interchangeable. We have interchangeable hands and stuff. Back in you know, the early 2010s and through, you you couldn't do that. You had to do the boil and pop method, which is where you boil water, it gets hot enough, you throw the figure in there, the figure's whatever it gets, you know, really loose or whatever, it gets you know steamy and you can pop it off, and then you could switch the parts or whatever. And now, you know, thankfully we don't have to do that with head sculpts. But yeah, it's a it's a crazy thing. You just can't, and I feel like I learned I'm still learning new things because you know, we had ultimates implemented. We have all these new things being implemented to where I don't think I've that's one thing since the ultimate edition creation, I have not cracked an ultimate edition torso or swapped an ultimate edition torso, even though they've been a thing for a while now. It's just not something that I I guess was over. But then again, I don't know. I kind of I don't like a lot of the ultimate torsos, maybe that's the reason why. I don't know, but yeah, that's that's something that you learn. And I've absolutely destroyed a lot of torsos in my day from trying to torso crack. And I I really I don't think I've ever I've had like two perfect ones ever. I feel like I botch them most of the time.

SPEAKER_01 57:06

Yeah, those torso cracks, like they're they can be very tricky, and you uh you see a lot of people screw them up and have the gaps and stuff. That's unfortunate. But yeah, talk about you know, back in the day swapping out the hands. Sometimes I've like broken those pegs off, and even the heads, like putting a head on or taking it off, and like the neck peg, like or the neck, the side of the neck, like breaks off.

SPEAKER_00 57:35

You have the circle with the ball peg coming out of it, that would snap off, and the the circle would come out of the torso, so you'd have a torso with no ball peg, or yeah, or you have the fracture marks on the edges of the torso, like right here. You have those fracture marks, which there's like you know, little meta ways of getting a you know, getting around those things, but yeah, it's it's crazy how the line has evolved to kind of help customizers, but also you could even add in there like pinless joints make it way tougher on customizers to you know switch parts and stuff like that. Like with pinless joints, you can still switch them and do different things, but it's a lot tougher than it used to be.

SPEAKER_01 58:16

Yeah, so people they do know how to switch the pinless joints because I I personally love the look of them, but yeah, it definitely could you know hinder their ability to you know switch them.

SPEAKER_00 58:27

Yeah, apparently I haven't tried it myself, it just I just feel like I would ruin it 100%. But yeah, apparently maybe that's a video you do, like trying all these custom things, and then maybe it's like a rage quit, like and something super frustrating. Yeah, you know I'm gonna rage. Fingers are gonna be tore up, but yeah, that would be that would be fun. I need to I need to try some of these different things, but yeah, apparently there's a method to the madness. I don't know, but yeah, man, customizing there's just so much there. There's so much you could probably do a whole episode on customs if you really wanted to, but we wanted to do it for our topic discussion today. Are you ready to dive into our Mattel mishap here? Yeah, let's get into it. Okay, Mattel mishap today. I don't know if you guys saw this. Okay, I did a whole video on it, but the greatest hits, John Cena from series 12 that just released. This is supposed to be based on SummerSlam 2025, and it supposedly is, but it came out, it is significantly darker than the shirt actually was, than the hat actually was, than uh than it's supposed to be. It it's just not what he wore at SummerSlam 2025. And yeah, how did you feel when you first saw that? And then I'll get into my piece.

SPEAKER_01 59:38

Uh to be honest, I didn't notice too much of it. Like, I was like those people who don't see the details. I didn't like I I think I kind of saw that it was a little dark compared to the photo, but yeah, I didn't notice it and I didn't think like too much of a big deal. I'm not personally buying like all the farewell tour figures because I'm trying to buy for the Fed and he's not retiring in the Fed. So, but yeah, I could see like there's definitely a disparity in the colors, like it's supposed to be a much lighter blue and it's dark, and also the shorts are a much lighter shade, and it kind of blends with the shirt color they had there, so it's a weird contrast, like it just looks off.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:21

Yeah, and I don't know, man. I guess to be fair, I mean, I have like the most ludicrous John Cena collection ever. So anything John Cena, I'm gonna go through with a fine-tooth comb, or I'm going to, you know, take the inspector gadget glasses out and analyze it. Like, I get that. All right. I try to do that with all figures, but I, you know, I miss inaccuracy. People will comment that's not accurate, or this and that. And that that's news to me. Like sometimes that happens for sure. But yeah, I think what the thing is, is I don't I guess it's because it happens often with John Cena specifically, to where it's just become a almost thing that you expect, kind of where you know, like they messed up the Glasgow Cena. That shirt color was way too dark. It was almost black, or it was black, and it was supposed to be navy. And he had the cargo pockets on the side when like why are we using that short small? He didn't have cargo pants on, he had denim jeans on. And not that that, and I've even praised that figure. I praised that figure, that John Cena figure that was totally inaccurate. It's still a really damn good figure, but that's where it comes in. It does just because it's inaccurate, doesn't mean that the figure's bad necessarily, especially when you're talking about John Cena. John Cena's elites, it's one of the best formulas that Mattel makes right now. They have pretty much a perfect formula. There's a reason that that shorts John Cena, like the more modern version, not the long jorts, where it's you know very blocky and he's got the really weak ankles. The modern John Cena formula where I think the switch was made in Elite 17, maybe when they made that switch, that formula has been used to this day. I mean, barring, interchangeable hands, double-jointed arms. You know, they did give him a new torso on the Elite Three Pack. He's got striated shoulders. That is a really damn good formula. So it doesn't matter what attire they do or how inaccurate the shirt is, the figure fundamentally will be good. I mean, barring a bad head sculpt, whatever, it's gonna be a good figure regardless, because it's it's gonna feel great in hand, it's gonna look good aesthetically in terms of the torso and the proportions, but it's just it's just not accurate, which I know some people don't care about. It's just frustrating when you know it's trying to commemorate a retirement tour and this big whole epic thing that WWE did for John Cena's, you know, last run, and you're you're trying to commemorate the retirement tour, and it doesn't, it doesn't look like the retirement tour. It doesn't look like the gears that he wore. The shirt's black instead of navy, the shirt's navy instead of royal blue, the sh the shoes are white instead of gray. Like I I just don't I don't that goes back to our other discussion where it's just what why even why even do that gear if we're just not gonna pay attention to to those details? And I think that it's important to get those details right. But yeah, another another John Cena, man. That's the I think that's the thing. I mean, if you include basics, you include basics, it's probably like five or six John Cena's now, but that's the third elite. Yeah, that's the third elite slash ultimate in a row, I think, that's been kind of wonky in some ways. I still think the figure is gonna be good. Like in like, you know, objectively, it'll be good. It's just wrong.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:33

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:34

I agree. Yeah, so hate to hate to see it. Another pour another one out for another John Cena figure. Uh we're moving into our Mount Rushmore for this episode. And for this Mount Rushmore, we had Rey Mysterio announced, if anybody missed, as the general manager of Triple A, which is an interesting thing. I'm interested to see where they go with this. I think this is probably gonna tie into his retirement somehow, maybe later on down the line. Yeah, I might do. Yeah, but Mount Rushmore today is gonna be our the four best Rey Mysterios from Mattel. So this can be your own personal four best Rey Mysterios that Mattel has ever made. I'm gonna let you go first. What do you got? You want to go back and forth, or you want me to just lay it all out? Let's go back and forth. I think that would be the the more fun dynamic.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:27

Okay. I'm gonna go first off in no order. I'm gonna go with the elite top picks, I believe, or it's a greatest hits, Rey Mysterio based off WrestleMania 35 in his Mysterio Spider-Man attire. And I think I think I don't know if you got that on your list, but I think just the attire itself, it's fantastic. It doesn't have the Mysterio again with the details, it doesn't have the Mysterio thing across the waist, but it just looks incredible. The colors are insane, you know, it's got a unique torso sculpt as well, I believe, and the entrance gear as well with it. It's it's just aesthetically, it looks great on the shelf.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:08

I had that on my list. I do have it on my list. Greatest greatest hit series four Rey Mysterio from the WrestleMania 35 2 pack. It's the WrestleMania 35 two-pack re-release of that figure with Samojo, which is the most random elite two-pack, maybe ever. Elite two packs. But yeah, man, that figure's fantastic. I mean, my god, at the the gauntlets and the cape, and the cape's rubber, okay. I get it, but I don't give a damn. That that figures insane. Head sculpts impressive. The torso, like you mentioned, is unique, I think, for that figure. It's like you got the wrinkles right here. Yeah, I don't think they ever did that torso again, which is pretty much. It's got the gauntlets, yeah. The gauntlets are crazy sick. It's got the gold gloves and the gold boots and the Mysterio pattern. It's a beast, it's absolute, and I I'm interested in. Do you think he would have made the the list, the standard one before double jointed arms? Would that have made the list if they never re-released it?

SPEAKER_01 1:06:07

Well, I actually don't have the greatest hits, I have the original. I never upgraded it. That is weird because, like, you have all these figures that are great, and then it's like they come out with the double jointed arm version. It's like, oh man, I want that one, but then it's like, geez, I'm just doubling up. So maybe I'll get that one one day, but I think it 100% would have still made the list. Okay. In my opinion.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:31

I'm gonna, I guess, since we had the same one, I'll just mark that as my one, and you can roll into your two, and we'll see how they compare.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:39

Okay, I'm gonna go with I don't know if this is one you've thought about, but Elite 15 Rey Mysterio.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:46

This is the this is the Lakers gear or the Lakers gear, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:50

Purple and yellow. Aesthetically just pops. Awesome gear. I am a Lakers fan, so that's that's good too. But yeah, head scan. I think it's it might be the best Rey Mysterio head scan, that base head scan, and comes with a mask as well. I think it's just one of the best Rey Mysterio gears, and I think it poses great too. I think the legs, I think this is one of the this might be the first one where they changed the formula of the ray. It is, it is, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:18

Yeah, I think that I have a lot of takes on this. Okay, yeah, okay. Yeah, first of all, I didn't know you were a Lakers fan. I'm also a Lakers fan, so there you go. Nice. They so yeah, that figure that's when they changed the torso. They or they switched to the Sinkara torso, whatever you want to say there. I think those are also part of the same wave. So who came with that first? I don't know. I don't know the details on that, but Lakers gear, it does pop. I've had I have that figure, and then they did the network spotlight re-release of that where they changed the. It's similar, yeah. I think I think that one still had single-jointed arms, though. I don't think it was upgraded in any way, but I think I think I'd prefer the one you picked over that one. That one did not make my list, but that is that's a solid addition. I also think that for whatever reason, that one and the Elite 18 and the black and green, I think I have that one too. That's great as well. I think those are nostalgic for a lot of people for some reason for that era and that packaging and stuff. And yeah, I think that's a good pick. I don't think that's like a crazy take. I don't have it personally on my list, but I do I could see where you would go with that. I don't I don't think that that's just absurdity. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_01 1:08:25

Yeah, I mean, looking at all the Rey Mysterious, this was so hard to narrow down because he's got incredible figures, and I think one day doing a bracket to determine the best would be really cool. But yeah, it was super hard to narrow down, and I think most of our lists will probably be a bit different. So yeah, I'm yeah, what's your pick?

SPEAKER_00 1:08:42

Yeah, 100%. I think a bracket 1,000 will be done one day. But for my second pick, I went with the top picks Rey Mysterio Elite of the Macho Man gear. So this is gonna be the yellow singlet, pink pants, unbelievable figure. I think it poses fantastic, it looks fantastic. It it's some of my favorite colors together. Unreal head sculpt. It just it's it's probably my favorite modern day Ray, I think. I just think it pops so nice, and I do want to give an honorable mention to the other top picks Ray with the pink and black. That one's also very sick. I like that one too. But I on my list, the top picks macho man Ray made my list. What do you think of that one? That that's on my list as well.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:31

So we've got two already on the same list. Uh, how many have you put down? Two or three?

SPEAKER_00 1:09:37

I've on my third. Okay, okay. So go with your third. Okay, so yeah, that might what you have anything to say about Macho Man Ray.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:45

Uh, it's just fantastic. It pops, the it poses great. I love that formula of Ray, but yeah, it's just one of the one of the best gears, and it was executed great.

SPEAKER_00 1:09:54

Yeah, it's it's un like every time I look at him like, yeah, that one's yeah, peak, peak Ray Mysterio. He I don't know if I did a top 25 that particular year or a top 10 or something. It may have been the number two or three elite of that entire year. It's really, really good. Really, really good. Uh my third pick is going to be the ruthless aggression elite Rey Mysterio. This is gonna be the one in white. I like the white mask, got the white gloves. It's not as it's not as toyetic as far as tattoos, I don't think, but I really love I don't I don't know if it's identical to the I don't think so. I don't think it's identical to the SmackDown intro uh intro from that time period, but it's still it's still fantastic. I I love white gears, as we know. It's like I'd love white attires and stuff, and I just think that one really pops. I love that one. It's also got a modern formula of that Elite 15 Ray, so it's got double jointed arms, ball joint, you know, legs, it it flows well, it's clean.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:53

Yeah, I'd love more like Rey Mysterios from that time period. I feel like we don't have enough, but as far as my fourth, I'm gonna have to go with I forgot the the series, but it's the eye patch rey Mysterio with the blue and orange gear. Interesting pick.

SPEAKER_00 1:11:12

I can't believe you actually put that on your list. That's crazy. Really?

SPEAKER_01 1:11:15

You don't like that one?

SPEAKER_00 1:11:16

Was it Elite 86 or 87 Rey Mysterio?

SPEAKER_01 1:11:20

Yeah, but they re-released it with double jointed arms at the topics.

SPEAKER_00 1:11:23

Yeah, they did re-elease it.

SPEAKER_01 1:11:24

But yeah, yeah, I don't know how you could say anything bad about it. It's got great uh great attire, pose is great, the head scan's great, and it's very unique because it's got the eye patch.

SPEAKER_00 1:11:35

Okay, well, I would I wouldn't argue with that if there weren't other rays that exist, right? So that was your last one, yeah. Okay, I have okay, I have top picks macho ray, I have ruthless aggression rey in white, yeah. I got the Mysterio Rey Mysterio from WrestleMania 35. My fourth and final pick, I went with ringside exclusive flash ray mysterious.

SPEAKER_01 1:11:59

Oh, that's interesting. Because I I was thinking about that, but then the pine cone joke. Yeah, okay.

SPEAKER_00 1:12:05

Yeah, so this is where I think I think based off aura and historical significance and just just badassery and how great it was at that time, too. I think it has to get the nod. Like I think that that iPads ray, as great as it is, I think it just it's like moment in time almost to where it kind of like you kind of like skip over it. Not that it's not a great figure, I just think that maybe historical significance bumps up the flash ray because we really I don't think they ever did another ray with that rubber top like that.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:41

And I don't even like the rubber top, it kind of you know it's not perfect, but it's I feel like if they re-released a flash ray with and like redid the whole thing, it'd be peak, it would be peak with that head scan too.

SPEAKER_00 1:12:54

It'd be probably the best ray figure ever made, right? I mean for sure, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:59

Yeah, I mean, I I never yeah, I never owned that specific elite. I've got like this, I've got a right here, this jax one. Dude, I have this kid. I love that figure, right? Yeah, it's in my crowd for WrestleMania.

SPEAKER_00 1:13:13

Yeah, WrestleMania is it WrestleMania 20 attire, right? I'm pretty sure. Um, yeah, yeah, yeah. So yeah, that one's fantastic. I like that one too because it has the gloss finish on it, and that's the kind of look that the attire had, which I always thought was great. But yeah, man, Flash Ray. The I love the the lightning pattern that it has. That head sculpt, I don't I don't think they ever did that head sculpt again. They may have put it on a it's specific, I think. Yeah, it the gloves have the damn, it looks like the human spider gloves from Spider-Man 1, like the white and red look. It's just incredible, just an incredible figure. I do not know for the life of me how Mattel has not put that out in the from the vault. I do not understand. Like you put inside jump on it. You put damn Monday night.

SPEAKER_01 1:13:58

They got DC now. They got DC now. This is the perfect time.

SPEAKER_00 1:14:02

It's a it's a like I talk about this all the time, or I say this all the time on the channel, but it's a wide open layup at the basket. There's nobody in the arena, son. Put the ball in the basket, it's right there. So I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 1:14:16

Now they can do specific flash packaging if they wanted to, right?

SPEAKER_00 1:14:20

You'd think that would you would you do a standoff one alone redo of that figure with its own standalone packaging, or would you repackage it again in that same nostalgic packaging or put it in the from the vault line? Because I think it's a layup for the for from the vault line, but in the from the ball, like redo the whole formula, yeah. That would be crazy to see. That's what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_01 1:14:41

Redo the whole formula, ringside exclusive, flash packaging. That's a layup.

SPEAKER_00 1:14:47

It would be it would well. The thing is, too. I don't know if you have do you have the Street Fighter Rey Mysterio, the one that just came out. I don't know. Okay, well, it they you know, that's the old Ray formula, but in the Street Fighter line, they've redone it to where the fit the new Ray that figure has ball joints. Is that not crazy? I didn't discover that until I did the review. It has like I have to grab it. Hold on, let me grab it real quick. Look at this. All right, you know, like previously, yeah, you know, you'd kick this forward and it would like you know do all this, but like look at this, it's on a ball joint, so you can actually like it moves well. Look at this.

SPEAKER_01 1:15:25

How's that knee? Is that knee stiff? Looks stiff.

SPEAKER_00 1:15:29

No, okay. It's when I reviewed this, I was literally dumbfounded in the reviews. Like, I the title of the video, I think, is there's no way Mattel made this because that's how that's how like and this figure's fire too. I mean, this this deserves an honorable mention.

SPEAKER_01 1:15:46

Do you do yeah? Do you have the actual flash? Have you ever owned the flash? I do. I do. I have it right now. Go go grab it. Yeah, let's grab because I want to see what the articulation on that the torso is with the the plastic, you know, top.

SPEAKER_00 1:16:04

Yeah, so this is a it's like rubber, dude. This figure is still just so peak.

SPEAKER_01 1:16:09

Yeah, that looks pretty sick.

SPEAKER_00 1:16:11

Yeah, and like look, the ab crunch still, it's still ab crunches because they made this like a crop top almost.

SPEAKER_01 1:16:17

But do you reckon they could take the the Mysterio WrestleMania 35 torso and put it on there? Would that work? I don't know. Let's grab it. Okay. He's grabbing the ray.

SPEAKER_00 1:16:30

The mask or that eye patch ray, did it have red boots or black boots? It had red boots in it.

SPEAKER_01 1:16:36

Uh yeah, it had orange. Red or orange boots, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:16:40

What did you do? A fix-up. I think I had one where it had black on it, but let's look at this. So okay. Here is the dude. This would be the best effing figure ever, man. Like if you had right, you could put the thing on there. Put the modern tech. I mean, let's look at the like, yeah, this it's limited. It's not as it kind of has that snap back, like, yeah, look at look at the leg. Okay, I understand it. It definitely pops back. But this figure is in pristine condition, too.

SPEAKER_01 1:17:19

And it would also give more value to that existing figure if they just redo it, right? Instead of re-releasing it.

SPEAKER_00 1:17:27

Yeah, I mean, the yeah, you have to this has to be on the list. You can't you can't leave this off in the year off your mount rushmore. This figure's okay.

SPEAKER_01 1:17:37

Well, maybe maybe it takes over the iPatch Ray.

SPEAKER_00 1:17:40

And the eyepatch ray, hold up now. This one, you know, this was look at red boots.

SPEAKER_01 1:17:44

It pops the the attire is great, and it's got the unique eye patch.

SPEAKER_00 1:17:49

Yeah, I and I love the formula, right? Like this formula for Ray Mysterio is incredible. I love this. So I guess it's like Superman, I guess.

SPEAKER_01 1:17:59

Yeah, I think you know, one one thing about Rey Mysterio figures that bugs the heck out of me is the fact that they don't have mic holding hands. It's always fist, it's always grab. What are we doing? Just mold something, please. Not even with the ultimate.

SPEAKER_00 1:18:15

Hey, his old figure does. This one does, right there.

SPEAKER_01 1:18:21

Oh, he does. Oh, great. Oh, but yeah, it's not an interchangeable one. Yeah, it's not wait. So, did I say all of my Mount Rushmore? I think so. Name them off again. Because I said, you know, the Macho Man. I guess I'm replacing it with the Flash, uh, the Mysterio. I don't think I said my fourth. I was gonna say the ultimate Ray from WrestleMania 39. I said I said Elite 15, but maybe I miscounted. But yeah, I was going to put the ultimate 39.

SPEAKER_00 1:18:53

That one deserves an honorable mention because that one's damn good and it poses really, really well. The WrestleMania 39, the ultimate 23, I think it was, Ray. That one's really, really good. Then you have to give a shout to the the recent Legends Ultimate, the Halloween Havoc. That one's very, very good as well. There are a lot of good Rey Mysterios. I mean he's so toyetic.

SPEAKER_01 1:19:16

Dude, a bracket's gonna be crazy. The bracket's gonna be a good thing. If we get a guest on here too to to join us, yeah, that would be a tiebreaker.

SPEAKER_00 1:19:24

I mean, dude, look at the damn the cape, and then you have the it's insane. Like the look at the tat they have the tattoos right there on the edge of the torso, like they didn't have to put those tattoos on the edge of the torso. You see where the torso meets the skin tone, yeah. Like just awesome, man. His spine tattoo right here, they put it on the little gap right there. Then you have like that tight knitting stitching or the fabric getting tight around that cuff. Yeah, yeah, this is an all-timer right here.

SPEAKER_01 1:19:56

But man, give us some mic holding hands, please. It's like the same, like come on now. Yeah, 100%. 100%. But this is a surely there's an existing, like, is there no existing gloved interchangeable hand um that is mic holding? I don't think so, but it should you could get a lot of use out of it if they told you.

SPEAKER_00 1:20:21

There is, but it's it's about doing it in the Rey Mysterio scale, so you know you gotta make it smaller. But I want to say, I want to say it'd be worth it. So many rays that come out, yeah, 100%. But I do like the I call it the SmackDown Intro hand where he's like kind of reaching out at you.

SPEAKER_01 1:20:38

Yeah, who was that jumping out the sky?

SPEAKER_00 1:20:40

Yeah, like I love the like the grabbing the camera style hand, yeah. So yeah, it's Rey Mysterio, all timer dude's got just a damn catalog of action figures, and yeah. I I don't know. I think you you really couldn't go like is there there's some bad Rey Mysterios, I guess.

SPEAKER_01 1:21:03

Do we need that Batman basic ray in elite form now? Now that they've got the license with DC.

SPEAKER_00 1:21:09

Yeah, that would be cool. They need to redo that one, and then the top picks Batman one they did was sick as hell too. With the light book that was awesome too.

SPEAKER_01 1:21:17

That's up there as well.

SPEAKER_00 1:21:18

Yeah, that one's a damn good one. At one point, I made like an MDT Ray where I combined like the Macho Man, I think that black and pink one, and that Batman. I did like part switching and stuff. I think I sold it on whatnot, and then I made a different one, like a variation of it that looked even better. And then I lost it somehow. I don't know how I lost it, where it fell, it like fell somewhere, and I don't know where it went, but damn, it was it was really good too. And I I can't remember exactly what I did to it or how I made it, so now I'm like, damn, I need to recreate that. But and Rey Mysterio figures are cheap too. You don't really think about that, like not Flash Ray, but a lot of his more modern figures are very cheap because he has so many figures, I guess. But man. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:22:04

Yeah, that's gonna be a good bracket for sure.

SPEAKER_00 1:22:07

Yeah, it'd be uh it'd be fun. It'd be fun 100%. We gotta we gotta do that. And there's there's a lot of brackets we we could do there, but man, what a cool, what a cool figure. What what a catalog of figures Rey Mysterio has. But I think that is everything for this episode of My Damn Creators. We actually went longer than we expected to. We were shooting for an hour, hour five. We're at an hour and a half almost. So I think I think that about does it for me. You have anything you want to add here before we get out of here?

SPEAKER_01 1:22:37

No, I think it's gonna be interesting to see, you know, if we can, you know, get our action figure matches out there or you know, your Fed episode and my WrestleMania match. We're gonna be working hard at that. And hopefully, I don't know about the next episode of My Damn Craters, but the episode after that, we may have you know something to discuss about those releases.

SPEAKER_00 1:22:58

Yeah, man. Heck yeah. That that definitely that's I that that episode after we both get some like recent fetting stuff out is gonna be really exciting just to kind of talk through the process and maybe what comes next, or maybe we can detail. If if you know listeners are interested, we can detail maybe how we did certain things or maybe something like that. Yeah, I don't know. It should be fun, but I think that about wraps it up for me. You got anything else you want to share before we close? No, we'll see you guys next week. All right, man. Well, that wraps up My Damn Creators episode number eight, man. Thank you guys so very much for watching. Please leave a like here, comment something down below. Really helps out the channel watching the video to its extent. Even if you just have the video playing or the podcast playing, and then you're doing other activities, not actively watching it, that also helps out a lot. So we greatly appreciate you guys. Thank you guys so very much. We have links in the descriptions below as well to our channels if you want to go check those out. But thank you for watching. We appreciate you. Have a blessed one, and we'll catch you guys next time.