Are You TOO OLD To Collect WWE Figures!?

Welcome to Episode #9 of the My Damn Creators Pod!

Are you too old to collect WWE action figures?? In this episode, MDT & WSC discuss this question as well as their signature Agree/Disagree segment about all things wrestling action figure collecting!

The boys also discuss a notable Mattel figure mishap, and close with a “canon events” Mount Rushmore that every collector can relate to.

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What is good everyone? Welcome live into or not live. We're not live, actually. We are not live whatsoever, but what is good, everybody? Welcome into episode nine of My Damn Creators. As always, I'm MDT. Got my boy WSC Stage Creator Nate. How are we doing, bud? Doing good. I just wrapped up filming Brombreaker versus Brock Lesnar for WrestleMania. Super pumped about that. Should be premiering sometime live this week. I look forward to getting that out to you guys and seeing what the reaction is. But yeah, very happy with how it turned out. And yeah, can't wait to get stuck into the next matches in the show. Can't announce just yet what the next match is, but you know, we'll get an announcement here soon. But what about you, man? What about the Fed? You know, we both tried to get our stuff done by the end of May. Unfortunately, we didn't make that happen. You know, these things take a little longer than than uh we think is possible sometimes. And, you know, I had a lot of, you know, I had to organize someone who's helping us out with the the intro of WrestleMania and you know again the commentary to Danny and stuff. You know, there's a lot of things going on in the background. But yeah, what about you? How's your Fed going? You know, it's going again, you know, slowly chipping away at it. I did get, I'm almost done with the second matchup. And you guys know that, or if you didn't know, there's three matches usually on each on each show, or at least I tried to do that. And I haven't been doing like highlights, so I don't know. We may transition to highlights after this. We'll see how it goes, I guess. But you know, just it's kind of like trial and other. I feel like this first episode back is a lot of trial and error, so that's kind of what I've been messing with. And that's probably also why this one will take a little bit longer, I imagine, just because you know, you're trying to figure those things out, those processes. But yeah, I'm almost to the main event. I've done all of the only thing remaining is match things. So anything like, you know, segments and promos and all that different stuff that's in the show is completely done. It is all about now finishing. Pretty much, I have a little bit more on this second matchup, and then I'll be starting the main event, and hopefully I can get that going. I mean, it's not a pay-per-view, right? So it's not, and it's not, it doesn't have to be the most grandest thing ever, but at the same time, you just want to tell the story. That's what the shows are really about, right? The shows are about telling the story, progressing the story. And so that's what we're working on right there. But yeah, we're coming along. It's it's eaten up a ton of storage on my phone, as we know. I mean, it's ridiculous, but yeah, I mean, it's fun. Been editing at the same time as filming and you know, learning that process too. So it's gonna be good. I'm I'm excited to be done with it. I'm excited for everybody to see it, but at the same time, it's you know, just slowly chipping away. Yeah, the storage on the phone thing is real, man. Like, I've got so many like videos and things like on my phone, all like wrestling related, all WSC stuff, and it eats up so much storage. I have like, I think like one terabyte or something on my phone, and it's like always filled up. I'm filming and then I run out of storage and it just halts the whole process. You know, I have a hard time of like deleting things, I guess. So yeah, that that stuffs me up a little bit. But how are you going with you know, you're filming a different style, doing the VidFed stuff? How's that been going, filming a match, like learning that style and experimenting with things? How's that been for you? Uh it's been challenging, but at the same time, it's been fun, you know. Especially, I think you know what I'm talking about, where we talked about how you film something and then you immediately plug it into editing to see how it was. Because, you know, back in the day when you had just traditional camera, okay, I'm doing this sequence. I can just pull the camera down, go to the gallery immediately, and you can see how things transition from one to the other. But in this, it's the same thing, but it's a lot more, you know, that it's it's a lot different than a still image. You have to actually like you're trying to match up movement and match up motion and match up perspective and things like that. So yeah, it's definitely it's definitely a learning curve. Like, I mean, you're you're jumping in, trying this new style, but it has been fun, and I've been I've I haven't been a hundred percent satisfied. I feel like that's something we talked about, trying to not be such a perfectionist because that delays you even more and it's not good for you. You really need to just you know learn on the fly and and things like that. So I'm trying to, you know, I I don't think I'm 100% satisfied with it, but I I have had a lot of fun seeing things come together and then being like, oh yeah, I love the way that looks, or you know, you you really appreciate the process leading to the final result. And of course, you know, the commentary is not in there yet, and not all the sound effects are in there and stuff like that, but you can kind of see the vision come to life, and that's exciting. Yeah, you know what's interesting, like I've been filming my my first match for WrestleMania. And without giving any spoilers, I sent you some like clips of like something that I filmed in PicFed and something I filmed in VidFed. And it's always that like thing uh in my brain, it's like, okay, what's what looks better? Is it vid fed? Is it pick fed? Does like you know, you get more detail in the posing of the pick fed, but it's less fluent than vid fed. So what is the audience going to enjoy more? So yeah, it's always tricky, and I'm always experimenting and seeing what fits best there. But yeah, like it it's tricky to you know figure out like what you want to do there. Yeah, it it's really unique too. It's like nothing you there's nothing really you can compare it to, I feel like, you know, because you're kind of dealing that would almost be like having a canvas and then you painting a specific subject two different ways and then going with the other one, but you're doing both at the same time. I don't know, it's kind of weird. It's a it's a very weird kind of subject matter right there. But yeah, it's it's fun though, you know, like it's fun to try, but it also it's it is a you know, it's time consuming, it's a tedious process, as we've always talked about. Yeah, you think by the end of June you might get that out? You got three more matches left? Yeah, if I'm not done, I want to have the whole episode out, you know. Like I don't want to. I'm trying to do that, you know, as much as possible whenever I can. So if it took to the end of June, I would be disappointed. But at the same time, I don't think it would shock me. Like I wouldn't be like, oh yeah, like I wouldn't that wouldn't completely shock me, but I would be disappointed, I think, if that if that happens. So hopefully time time flies, man. Like before it'll be the end of June before you know it. So yeah, it's tricky. Yeah, it's it's tough because you know they say that the what is it, the days are long, but the years are short is usually is what people say. And so, yeah, and especially when you're so busy, it just my god, man. It's not, yeah, it's just crazy. It's crazy how fast time goes. It's it's very scary, too. So, yeah, for real. Yeah, so those are the updates on the Fed. You want to get into agree-disagree? I do want to get into agree-disagree. We got some fun prompts right here. Do you have your tag ready? I do. Let's go. All righty, let's go. All right, man. We're diving into agree-disagree, kind of the staple segment here that we're gonna get into. And if you guys want to see an agree-disagree specific prompts or something like that, let us know. If you guys don't like agree-disagree, let us know that as well. But I I tend to enjoy it. Do you enjoy it? I enjoy it. I feel like it kind of leads to different tangents and different things, and we kind of go back and forth on it, which I like. Yeah, it's fun. But whatever the audience, you know, what do you whatever they want to see, whatever topics, let us know down below. We'd love to hear it. Yeah, 100%, man. All right. So this first one, I don't I don't know how people are gonna feel. I think it's gonna depend on what kind of collector you are, I think is what's gonna play into this one. But the first prompt is displaying figures is more fun than hunting figures. So getting the figure in hand, setting it up in some way on your shelf or whatever is more fun than hunting the figure down itself, tracking that figure down and getting it into your collection, whether that be, I guess, online or in person, whatever. So displaying figures is more fun than hunting figures. Are you okay? I'm ready. Count it down. Three, two, one, bang. Yeah, agree. Agree, agree. I think okay, you go ahead. Yeah, I think like with that, it's pretty obvious. Agree, but it's also like the thrill of the hunt is pretty fun sometimes when you do like find that figure that you were after. But yeah, displaying it, getting it in hand, you know, especially like paying for it too. You you you're potting ways with some money for the figures, too. It's getting the figure, that's the exciting part. Yeah, 100%. Yeah, I think I think so. But I think you do you definitely have a point there, right? You you hunt that a lot of people really enjoy the hunt, right? People love toy hunting in person. There are some people that don't even believe in ordering online, you know, like people will legitimately only I only hunt in store or I only go to local shops or whatever, which I guess can I don't know how that works with exclusives, right? Like if what if you don't have uh you can't get ringside exclusives unless you have some sort of you know different, you know, hole-in-the-wall wrestling figure shop near you or something like that. A toy fair or something like that, one of those conventional. But then again, you're gonna overpay more than you would if you just pre-ordered it, correct? So yeah, but maybe the times, people. Yeah, but yeah, I mean, agree to me, I can't really like speak for wrestling all the way because my wrestling figure display, like I can do it with my AEW stuff a little bit more, but and I have some sections of my collection where I can actually display them, posed out and stuff, and you just added, you know, a display for yours that's like layered and has a shelf and stuff. I love that part of collecting. Like for me, setting up a display is some of the most fun that you can have outside of making content. Outside of making content, I think displaying your figures and creating that ultimate setup is the most fun. So when I talk about you know my Dragon Ball Z stuff or my Marvel Legends stuff or Spider-Man stuff, that is like when I go in there with my son or whatever, and we're just like setting it up exactly how we want, and you can put them in these crazy poses and you really make this dynamic display. I think that's that's some of the most fun period for collecting action figures of any kind for me personally. What do you think? Yeah, for me personally, it's more about what I can do with the figures. To be honest, like I like when I have it all set up, but I don't ever like for years, I would just I would never like stand there and admire it or anything. I don't know. It's kind of weird. Like, I I like using them. I liked, you know, when I was younger playing with them, and I like doing stuff creatively with them, but like displaying them, you know, you see these boxes in in all these podcasts so far, and I've got like boxes and boxes of figures that I've yet to display, and I don't really have any room to display them, unfortunately. But but yeah, I think I don't really value them as much like standing up and displayed rather than you know me using them in some sort of creative way. Yeah, and that's what that I think that's what it comes down to is me and you, and we've had this conversation before where we kind of enjoy our collections a lot differently because to me having fun with my collection involves creating things with it and doing the you know, customizing and content creation and the Fed and like all these different fun things that you can do with the figures. That's where the that's where collecting is fun for me, at least for wrestling figures. Now, again, like I mentioned with other lines that I collect, I have a ton of fun doing the other things, you know, um displaying and doing all these different things. And I still do, you know, I customize other lines and stuff like that if I want it to look a certain way or if I want a specific thing, but there's not a whole lot of time for that nowadays. I try my best, right? But yeah, I I try to fit it in where I can. But I think that creating it's almost like you know, creating content is the fun part of wrestling figure collecting for me now, or at least it's the it's the where I find the most enjoyment out of my collection is the creative process, I guess. Yeah, yeah. I just moved recently, and people tell me, like, I have this balcony and it's got like a nice view, and people tell me, like, oh, you're gonna take that for granted and stuff, you're gonna get used to it. And I feel like that might be the case with when you have like an action figure collection and displayed, or even if you have like a cool like arena setup, like it becomes the norm and you kind of get used to it. How do you feel? Like you walk into that studio every day and you see all those figures. Do you kind of take it for granted? Is it just normal to you now? I don't know. I feel like that's kind of a mixed bag because before I leave my office, I'd say, I don't know if it's every day, but there are there are many times where I'll just stop and look at it and I'm like, damn. Like I don't know, you know, you kind of look at it like I don't know. I I just think of how how much of a blessing it is, mainly, you know, just that you're able to be able to be in a position to create things and have these figures and enjoy them and then share, you know, not only through the podcast, but pretty much daily across different social medias, you're sharing your passion and love for them. And then to be able to make that a part of your income and and your livelihood is just such a blessing. That's just insane. So I try not to ever take it for granted in any sense, but I do get what you're saying, you know. Like I think if somebody, if somebody, if a random stranger walked in, they would be like, what the hell is this? That's what I was gonna say. Like, what do people think when they they come in your your action figure room? Well, I I mean, besides family, most people don't come up here, but I mean, I I would imagine I would imagine that, yeah, people I've had, you know, extended family, things like that come in and they're like, you know, just what the hell is even that? You know, I mean it's it is overwhelming, it's a lot. And uh like to your point, I think you're correct where you know you you see it every day, it's it's not uh it's not a huge shock for you because I mean it's it's what you do every single day. So to a random stranger, they would be like, this is absolutely insane. Yeah, it's just like you know, with the arenas, like how insane my arenas are today. I I feel like 10-year-old me or even like 18-year-old me would be like, this is insane, but it's like normal for me now, it's like my daily thing, and it's like I'm used to it, so it's not as crazy. But yeah, like, yeah, you take a step back and you you really think about it. It's like, wow, this is this is really special, this is really cool. Yeah, 100%, man. 100%. Yeah, the arena, the arenas is so crazy, especially with just how in-depth they are now, you know, just the and the crazy things that you can come up with to create them. It's super fun. It's almost become like its own hobby, you know. It's like it's like wrestling figure stages and arenas is like its own kind of it's like a little that was my thing. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Yeah, it's like a yeah, it's like a pocket, you know, of a already niche thing. It's like a niche within the niche, like we like to talk about a lot with customs and different things like that. But yeah, uh absolutely. But I I would say displaying is more fun than hunting. But if anybody disagrees, they can let us know in the comment section, of course. And for our listeners, you can send us a DM or something like that. But we're moving on to the next prompt if you're ready. Yeah, I'm ready. Let's do it. Let's do it. Okay. A figure, I guess it could be anything, but a wrestling figure doesn't have to be accurate to be great. I would go as far as to say the number one, oh, I don't know, the number one figure of the year doesn't necessarily have to be accurate to be the best or be great. Is that fair? A figure doesn't have to be accurate to be great. That'd be interesting if there was any figure that you could point out to me where it was that great, but it wasn't accurate, but we'll get into that after we we share our agree-disagree. So count it down. All right. A figure doesn't have to be accurate to be great. Three, two, one agree, agree. Okay, agree. Yeah, I mean I I mean that people are gonna be like, oh, you always dunk on these figures. Yeah, but this goes back to the John Cena that we just had, right? I mean, figure doesn't have to be accurate to be great, man. There are figures that are made that don't necessarily look like they're supposed to look, or maybe they don't have the accurate details, but damn, it's still good. Maybe it's enough to that it looks close enough, or it feels really good in hand, or it poses well, or it does exactly what it needs to. That's I mean, that's I feel like that's action figure collecting. What do you think? Yeah, I think that John Cena that we're talking about based on SummerSlam, it had its inaccuracies, but I see a lot of the community really loving that figure right now. So it goes to show you know the inaccuracies don't really matter to some people. When we were getting into we were getting into that kind of topic last episode, but one figure that one figure that comes to mind that was like a great figure that was inaccurate is like I think it's like Elite 58, maybe Matt Hardy. It was the green Matt Hardy figure. Looks incredible, but like that's a fantastic, fantastic fig for that exact topic. Yeah, so they had that silver attire, Matt Hardy, and had all those details and the patterns, and that's actually what the green one was supposed to have. It was supposed to have, like, I believe gold pattern design on the green. Yeah, that would have made it much better, but obviously they kind of cut that out and just went plain green, and it's still awesome, it's still really cool. So it's a good figure. Yeah, I love that figure. I hope that when the Hardings come back, they'll redo that Epic Moments pack or redo that Elite 58. Maybe I think it was Elite 58. I think it was Elite 58. That, yeah, what a fantastic. That that's a great pick right there for that exact reason. Like, okay, it doesn't have all the deco, but by God, that that green they used was fantastic too. Like the bright fluorescent looking green was really sweet. Yeah, I think that's 1000% kind of like the El Grande Americano. A lot of people were saying, Oh, the mask, something, something about the mask. I didn't even notice it. Like, I don't like and sometimes that happens, you know, like you don't even notice it. Um, yeah, that's what we were saying last week. Is like, unless you know the details, like some people don't like even care, they don't know enough about it to really care about the inaccuracies. That's just how it is, man. That's how it is. I think, yeah, it just comes down to like character or moment specifically, you know. Like if it's this big grandiose moment, that would be like, you know, them doing John Cena's heel turn and messing up all the details of the figure or something. Yeah. Um, but yeah, I you could argue that's still like a great figure to a lot of people. Some people don't care as much about the torso as as you and me. And I I I might even think that the it's not too much of a problem with the torso, but more so the heads being so small, so narrow that it throws it all off. Yeah, it's funny because today I was actually, you know, I don't know if you saw my short I made, but I made a short about the last matches, you know, last time is now John Cena. Like I pretty much made the figure in ultimate form. And after I did that video, I set the figure down. I was like, why does this ultimate not look so bad? And it's because I switched the head and like switched some things around. I was like, this actually doesn't look half bad looking at it now. And maybe it's because the calves were right, the head was switched, the bands are a little different, like the feet also were switched out. They didn't have the ultimate feet, it had the elite feet. Maybe there's some I don't know, maybe maybe you you could save that figure potentially. I don't know. But yeah, yeah, I think I think the head sculpt being small in that John Cena really, really messed it up right there. But I I still think like I don't know. If I had to, if they were gonna push me off a bridge to change it, I would I would still change the torso, I think, if I you know if it was my doings. But yeah, I agree. Figure does not have to be accurate to be great whatsoever. But let's move on to the next one, which I think could also, you know, could cause some controversy. People can let us know. Attire choice matters more than articulation. And I feel like I mean it says articulation. Attire choice matters more than articulation. Okay. Okay. I think I'm I think I'm ready. Okay, me too. Three, two, one. Disagree. I always disagree. Yeah, I disagree. I didn't know where you'd fall there. Yeah, this one's tough. This one's a little tough for me. I'll let you go first, though. I think if you could have like the greatest attire figure, but if the articulation is terrible, then that's gonna be way more frustrating than like, okay, the attire's not that great, but like this feels really good in hand. This is very poseable, it could be kind of plain Jane. Like, we got that Javon Evans recently. It like the attire is really nice, but like the articulation was kind of terrible on that. So, yeah, what's your opinions on it? Yeah, I I just I think if you get a figure in hand, it goes back to Elite One Rey Mysterio or those old Mark Henry figures, man. Like to me, if I get a figure and I can't move it, or it feels like it's gonna snap in half, or I don't feel like I can. Move him comfortably or whatever, it just kind of takes me out of it. Like I do, I don't like that figure. I want the figure to have a certain weight to it. I want it to actually feel good in the hand. I don't want to just, you know, set the figure up on the shelf and be done with it. I think that it's an action figure. It should be able to move and do these cool poses like you see in real life, and it should not be like you're conducting heart surgery to pull that off. It should be something that uh somebody could pick it up and put it in a Superman punch and it not feel like the figure's gonna snap in half. I think that's not too much to ask. So I think that yeah, what were you gonna say? Yeah, that Mark Henry is a great shout. I remember I was like maybe 13, 14 or something, and I got that. I think it was Elite 32, Mark Henry, the bald one, had a great attire, but like I opened it up and his legs wouldn't move. And I got it for Christmas, and I was like, oh man, like this sucks, man. I was so excited for this figure. You can't even move the legs. And now people are getting that with all sorts of figures. I freaking had it with Logan Paul recently. That sucks. I feel really bad for the for the young kids who get these figures and they open it up, and that's it, their experience. So yeah, it articulation does matter a lot. Yeah, that's a hundred percent, man. That's a hundred percent. That's why I've always dunked on Mark Henry figures, man. I've always dunked on Mark Henry figures for those reasons because and hopefully with the you know, I feel like most figures, it's weird too, because they they got rid of the pine cone joints and now they're on ball joints, but you still get that sometimes. I think it's it's probably less frequent than it was when the factory switch first happened, which oh my goodness. But it's still happening. It's still happening out there. But yeah, I'm hoping with the new Street Fighter Mark Henry, I'm really excited to see if he poses better and stuff like that. We finally get a Mark Henry that can actually move his legs. I think that'll be a fun, you know. Yeah, in that yellow attire as well. Yeah, the legends figure looks really good. Yeah, I'm excited to see the, and I'm just happy to have Mark Henry back. I wonder if we'll get an ultimate of him at some point. But it'd be cool. What if they did salmon suit Mark Henry? I think that'd be a cool figure. I don't know how they yeah, they'd have to sculpt like a brand new figure from head to toe, probably, but yeah, still would be it'd make for a cool figure. But all right, attire choice matters more than articulation. We both disagree with that. We're moving on to the next one here, which is I think I like this one. Wrestling figures today are better than wrestling itself. So the wrestling action figures currently going are better than the product you get on WWE, AEW, TNA, whatever television as a whole. Yeah, I'm today right now, wrestling figures today are better than wrestling itself. So oranges to oranges, apples to apples. So the wrestling figures are better than the product today. Okay. But I th are you ready? Uh yeah, I guess. You are ready. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I I think I'm ready. I think I'm ready. All right, here we go. Three, two, one. Disagree. I agree. I agree. I almost said agree, but yeah, yeah, I'm I'm definitely I'm definitely going back and forth. What are where are your disagreements? I mean, the product like of WWE right now is kind of stale. There's some there's a few good things, but yeah, it is kind of stale. But also I'm just thinking like what really exciting figures have we gotten recently? And I can't really think of any right now. So I I would say I'd have to, you know, disagree. Okay. Well, I will meet you with this. I would think that for me, I say agree because I think the st I think the standard of wrestling figures right now is higher than the standard of wrestling itself right now. And that's where I said agree. Because I think that I think for the most part, uh compare it to like an elite wave coming in. Let's just compare, I think Ultimate Edition Series 32 is legitimately shipping right now with Jake of Fatsu, Stone Cold, Jake the Snake. Compare that to just an episode of Raw, and I just think that I would get way more enjoyment out of the figure set than watching Raw, if that makes sense. And that's kind of what was decent. And I'm not saying that they don't have good stuff, right? Smackdowns are pretty bad though. Yeah, the Smackdown is pretty consistently bad. But I just think that like the standard, like the the era we're in, QC aside, whatever, I still think that wrestling right now just does not bring me that fire or that passion that I I still continually get from wrestling figures consistently, if that makes sense. So I would I would say that wrestling figures are better than wrestling itself right now. And not again, WWE has some good stuff going right now. I think AEW has some cool stuff going on right now. There are across the industry, there are really fun things happening, but I think I would give the nod to wrestling figures at this stage. And it's probably been like that for a while. I I I don't know when the last time the I don't know, the what would you call it? The what what what's the word I'm looking for? The seesaw went the other way or whatever that thing's called. And I don't know what would you think there? Well, if you had to go back, when do you think it was the other way when wrestling was better than wrestling figures? Uh probably like 2024 when you know WWE was like pretty hot. I mean, even early 2025, I guess. I don't know, there's just nothing in the like figure releases, it's nothing really that exciting except for the Penta recently that I can really think of that's like really exciting me. And you know, there's a lot of these QC issues and stuff, but yeah, there's not a lot of a ton of exciting releases at the moment. We didn't get much at you know, WWE World Reveals either. So I think that contributes to like the excitement levels. But yeah, it's a fair point if you think that way about you know, you're more excited about the figures in WWE right now. Yeah, I'm hoping you know, last year's Comic-Con, they really blew us away. There was a lot at Comic-Con that was really exciting. You know, they had, you know, I I can't remember. I think I made a checklist. I may have even made a whole video, I think, on it where you know they they upgraded Roman Reigns formula. We got the Money in the Bank, Rob Van Dam, first time Coco Beware. You had King Kong Bundy returning to the line, Jesse Ventura, first time figures, CM Punk changed his torso. There was like a hundred, it felt like there was like 12 different things that were really just exciting. So I'm thinking hopefully at Comic-Con, especially since at WWE World, man. I mean, they they didn't even give us renders. So we really don't have like, of course, we know of some things in the tank. There are, there's, I mean, there's gotta be 50 plus figures that we're gonna see at Comic-Con. It's gonna be a ridiculous reveal, I'm imagining. And hopefully all of those things are great. I'm sure we'll get Dan Housen updated Matt Cardona. There's gonna be a lot of Mr. Iguana, maybe. There's like so many fun little things that I think that we could get here in a couple months, and you know, that'll be a fun episode to get on here and kind of talk about. Yeah, it'll be very interesting to see. I really feel like they need to make up for WWE world, and I hope they do. But yeah, I think, yeah. What do you want to do you want to go to the next agree-disagree, or was that all of them? No, there's actually one more, and it kind of ties in to this one, and it is wrestling figures keep you into wrestling itself. So they kind of go hand in hand, but it's re if wrestling basically if wrestling figures maybe didn't exist, or what if you weren't a collector? Would you be as into wrestling as you are? If if wrestling figures did not exist. If you're not a collector, yeah, I don't think it applies to non-collectors. I think this is more of a question of you're a collector, would you be interested in WWE if you weren't tied to collecting? Because I don't think that affects non-collectors at all. Well, I I just meant more, I think I meant more of just like a I think I was thinking more of along the lines of if you no longer collected, would you still you see I'm saying let's say tomorrow Mattel's no longer making WWE figures, that's not a part of their business, wrestling figures cease to exist, you are done collecting, would you still watch WWE? Or do you think that's the way that's the question? Like uh if you're a collector, is do the figures like help tie you to the product? Wrestling figures keep me into wrestling. Wrestling figures keep me into wrestling. All right, I think I'm ready. Okay. Three, two, one. Agree. Agree also. And yeah, man, I can't really. I feel like this is something that I've I think I've discussed with my brother. Is it's almost I can't really imagine being a wrestling fan without being into the figures at all whatsoever. It's almost like they go together, I guess. And I maybe that's just the collector in me or the action figure enjoyer that I am. But if I enjoy something, let's say I like I turn on a movie, if it's a if I'm like, oh, that movie was so sick, if they made action figures for that movie, I'd probably be interested in the in the line. I may not collect them necessarily, but I'd still be like, oh, I want to see what they got or I want to see what they made. You know, I feel like action figures and toys go hand in hand with just any merchandise for me for a show or anything I like, but that's just kind of where my head goes initially. What are your thoughts? Yeah, I think like you when you collect figures, it's a big commitment and like you're putting a lot of money and time into collecting and stuff. And you if you take that away, especially with you know how busy life gets as an adult, like you would probably drift away from the product, especially if it's not good. And throughout the years, it's had its ups and downs. And yeah, I could definitely see like if I wasn't collecting, like I maybe I wouldn't watch wrestling as much. Well, it could go the other way. Maybe it's like okay, I watch wrestling more, but like I don't see like how I could not be tied to the wrestling figures and the product, you know. So yeah, I think you know, ever since I was a kid, the wrestling figures I feel like got me into wrestling and like captured my imagination and like really tied itself and lent itself to you know keeping up with the product. Yeah, I think I I'm right there with you. Of course, yeah, it's like I've never been a fan without collecting or like enjoying the figures in some way, right? Like, when did that ever happen? I don't think I've ever done that per se. I don't think that's right, yeah. Yeah, because I again I feel like in my brain they kind of go hand in hand. So when people say that they're big wrestling fans, I'm like, oh man, I wonder if they collect in any way. And then it's another step to think about you know, these people that are huge wrestling fans, okay? Well, do are they in the know whatsoever, or do they just say, Oh, they made Roman Reigns? You buy Roman Reigns and you just put them on the shelf because you like Roman Reigns and you're really big into the I don't know. I just think that the figures to me are a part of it, they're a part of the fandom, at least in my brain. That's what I know that's not how it is. That's just kind of the connection that's made for me personally. That's how it, that's how it goes. Yeah, so you think it's kind of like like are you like questioning like why people who are wrestling fans don't collect? Do you find that like a little odd? Yeah, not necessarily, yeah, not necessarily find it odd. I just think that like I think they if you enjoy wrestling, why wouldn't you enjoy the figures? The figures are really sick and cool. But some people may just think, uh, like, yeah, those are cool, but I don't I have no I don't care whatsoever. I don't know. It's weird, but they'll yeah, but they'll buy it's weird because they'll buy a Funko Pop or they'll buy a belt or they'll buy a t-shirt, but they won't buy uh an action figure. I don't know. That's that's an interesting thing there. Yeah, I mean, maybe they collected when they were younger too, and then they just grew out of it, which we'll talk about soon. That'll be a topic discussion here. But yeah, it's probably that case. I feel like every wrestling fan, if they grew up with it as a kid, definitely collected the figures at some point. Yeah, that's no doubt. I think that I highly doubt there's kids out there watching the pri maybe I'm wrong, but I highly doubt there are many kids out there or young fans that don't at least have a few figures if you're watching WWE currently. I just think that that's kind of the natural progression of things. You know, you see these matches and you want to make your own matches or your own championships, or you know, your guy never let's say you're a big Sami Zayn fan or whatever, and you want Sami Zayn to win the world title, and it's just not happening. You can make it happen in your living room with your own stage and your own entrance and and whatever the case is. Yeah, yeah, for real. But yeah, I think it definitely ties me and I guess you as well to you know the current product, especially like it hasn't been as great lately, and like sometimes I don't watch and I just like keep track of it on social media and stuff. But yeah, I could see like if I had no ties to the figures, maybe I would drop off the product. Yeah, yeah, that's interesting to think about. I I don't know that it's hard to even imagine something like that, you know. Because I can't do you watch week to week. I definitely do not watch all the way through Raw, every single commercial, whatever. I will put it on in the background and try to keep up, and then I do watch highlights and stay up today, but I'm not watching every single segment, every single match, to a T. Yeah. So the fact that that's the case with us who are like big into wrestling, imagine you take away the figures, you know, how far we could drop off the product, right? Yeah, I mean, I mean, who I don't know. I guess it just depends. I just I feel like you have I don't know. Again, I just think they go hand in hand together, but I don't know. I I'm trying to think, is there anything that you like? Of course, they don't always make toys for certain things or action figures with certain you know lines and stuff, but I really love Spider-Man. They're making Spider-Man figures, they're gonna make a shit for brand new day, they're gonna make a shish ton of figures. I'm gonna buy them. I'm gonna try to enjoy them and make a display, of course, right? That's just like the way that it goes. But I'm trying to think if is there anything that I give a whole lot of attention to or that I watch religiously that I don't have action figures of. I mean, even even athletes and sports, I'm a big sports guy, I love college football, I love college athletics, I love you know basketball and football and things like this. I have figures of college football players, I have figures of Luka Doncic, I have a LeBron James, you know. I'm I'm a huge Kobe fan. I haven't bought it yet, but I want to buy there's an inner bay 1-6 really nice articulated hot toy-esque figure. I want that for my collection. Like, I just think that toys is a way of me expressing my fandom across any, across anything, right? Yeah, I think it's different because WWE is like an ongoing product, whereas, you know, things like Spider-Man, like you could have nostalgia about like, you know, the the animated series and things like that and the old movies and stuff, and you can put that into an action figure like collection. But with WWE, it's like ongoing, new things are happening all the time, and then you're keeping up with all the you know the figures and stuff, and you could, you know, get figures of like stuff that you're nostalgic about in WWE as well. So I think there's just like it's a little different than you know, Spider-Man and things like that. Hmm. Interesting topic there. Interesting topic. I guess I would like to talk to somebody. I'd like to get somebody on maybe that's not a collector, which I don't know why they would ever come on here if we don't collect, but I'd like to talk to somebody who doesn't collect but still really enjoys wrestling. I mean, we could get like a WWE content creator who doesn't like collect or anything like that. That'd be interesting. Yeah, and I mean they're obviously huge fans of Spider-Man and stuff, but I feel like they still they may not collect like in the weeds, like we were talking about, but they still I don't know, they like you look in the background of their videos or whatever, and they have like one Marvel legend or whatever, you know, hanging up in the background. I'm a huge Spider-Man fan. I had a Spider-Man bedroom when I was a kid, but you know, I don't collect the the Spider-Man toys, I just don't go down that rabbit hole, I guess. I don't know. Some people just get sucked in, and you know, some people don't. Some people that just like don't you're telling me you don't any you don't own any Spider-Man figures at all. I have one amazing Spider-Man that I bought in like 2012, and I have one which I bought like for the multiverse, like in 2021. I've never used it. It's like an iron spider one, I think, or maybe I think it's an iron spider one, yeah. So I've got that, but like I don't display it or anything I haven't seen in ages. Yeah. I got you. Well, there it is. People can sign it off down below if they would like, but I think that's all of our agree disagree. We are gonna move into the topic discussion, which is going to be are you too old to collect action figures or just you know what comes with aging and collecting and action figures and the whole hoopla. And we're gonna get into it right now. So are you too old to collect action figures or just the just the, I guess, the perception of people who collect and everything like that? I will say and preface this, I think that as time goes on, it's a lot more accepted. I think that there's so many niches and so many communities nowadays that people really don't give a damn what you do, I guess, is how I feel about it. I think you still probably get some looks at the store, maybe, or you may, you know, people are like, whatever, but I haven't really felt like that in a very long time. I I used to be really, I guess, self-conscious would be the word. And I know I've gotten many messages, maybe you have as as well, of, you know, maybe teenagers, late teens, even adults that say, you know, my family makes fun of me, or these people I get, you know, people bully me because I collect or because I like this stuff. What's your what's your thoughts there? Yeah, this is a very interesting topic and something I wanted to talk about because I remember as a kid, I would think about this stuff. And it was like I remember like being 10 years old and thinking like I was too old to collect. And like I wouldn't like tell people about like, you know, my collections or like I that I played with the figures and stuff. But it's so it's interesting. Like for you, at a certain point, you kind of like stopped collecting, right? And then you got back into it. Tell everyone about you know your experience there. Yeah, so I think I don't know what that is. I don't know if it's I guess you know, just different priorities and stuff. Like you just kind of grow out of it, maybe naturally, but at the same time, you know, I've always loved action figures and toys, and I think it's just one of those things where you get into middle, high middle school, high school, whatever, and you know, you're playing sports, and people like if you're if you're in that realm, it's like it's almost impossible for somebody to to accept the fact that maybe you you don't like everything that they like, or maybe you have other interests outside of their interests, and like especially kids that are around 11, 12, 13, 14, they're real, you know, kids are brutal. They really are, and they they just think that you know you're only supposed to like this certain thing, or you can't like that, like that's weird, or whatever the case is when it couldn't be further from the truth. Like, it's actually really dumb that, and it's really I hate that like I've dealt with anxiety my entire life for the most part, and it really like it used to, you know, be in my head, like you know, about and even when I first started my channel, I didn't want anybody to know about it. You're really like secretive about it, which is so stupid, really. Like it really is. That's so dumb. It's not dumb, it's like invalidating your feelings or whatever. I'm not trying to do that, but like in the grand scheme, like I guess maybe it's the older I've gotten or whatever. I just learn to not give a single damn about what people may think about it or whatever the case is, because those people, the the people that typically are gonna hate on you for those things, they're usually like they usually hate themselves, and so they're projecting outwards their own inner hatred or or whatever the case is. I don't know. But yeah, I mean, when I get into middle or in high school, I used to not well, I mean, I'm like naturally I just kind of like grew out of it, but I definitely would not have been one of those people that was, you know, I definitely would have been one of those people that was afraid to bring it up, or you know, I probably would have hid something or you know, made sure other people didn't know about it. I'm sure that definitely would have been the case because that's how it was when I first started my channel and really getting into it. It I didn't want anybody to know about it, which is dumb, but that's just the way it was. It's I guess you you don't want to be bullied for things you like, or you don't want to be bullied, and you don't want these things to I don't know. You don't you just you don't want that negativity, I guess. I don't know. Yeah, like I, you know, never told anybody until like you know, I became a YouTuber and stuff, and then people found out that way. But yeah, it's like yeah, I would would kind of hide it and stuff, like if like I had friends come over as a kid and things like that. But yeah, I had like, you know, I have a good family and like no one's ever said anything negative about it, and it's turned into, you know, a great life for me now. But yeah, it's it's interesting, like some people don't have like a supportive family, and I can understand if like they think it's best for their kid to not collect action figures or they don't want to purchase the action figures for for their kids at a certain age. I can understand that perspective, but it's also you know hard mentally on the kids, you know, for parents to be negative about those those sorts of things. But yeah, were your your parents like supportive of you know you collecting as a kid? Yeah, my I I come from a similar background to you. I don't I never had and I've it makes me feel horrific for people that have to deal with that from their own family or their own, you know, close friends or whatever. That I don't think I've ever had anybody genuinely to my face at least. I've never had anybody, you know, hate on me or look down on me or whatever. But that actually that makes me feel for those that have experienced that because that's terrible. Like I imagine that I'm like, dang, that would that would not be a fun thing to go through whatsoever. So I definitely, but I also, like you said, I I like I do get that, you know. I can see where maybe a parent would be like, you know, you need to get out, and they have this own, you know, their own thoughts and their own feelings towards that. I just think that I don't know, as long as you are taking care of your responsibilities and you're, you know, you're healthy and you're not blowing all of your money and you know, the you're taking care of yourself and all those things. What a privilege and blessing it is to be able to enjoy something and you know, find a passion for something and be able to exp to express it or whatever the case is. You know, you're not hurting yourself, you're not hurting others necessarily. So I don't think that, you know, like I don't think you should you shouldn't go bankrupt, right? It's like gambling or whatever. You shouldn't ruin your life or you know, take time away from your own family or your own friends or whatever to to do it. But at the same time, you know, it's I think you should have hobbies and passions and things like that. But, you know, who's the who's the grand connoisseur out here that's like, oh, that's not acceptable for you to like action figures, but you say it's okay to go golf for nine hours or whatever the case is, man. It's like things your thing. My thing is collecting and displaying and you know, doing this. Yeah, it's interesting. Like, tell me about the experience of like you like quitting action figure collecting at a certain point. Did you sell the figures? What made you decide to do that? Like, was it hard to do that? Because I know like my brother who you know got me into the figures, he stopped collecting at around like 12 or something, and his his friends as well around that time too. So, like, what was the experience for you and was it difficult? Yeah, mine was around, I would say I had so how I had it set up was I always had my action figures and toys in my bedroom, and I had them in like little storage bins, similar to like you see over here, but and so I would play with them on and off, you know, through the years, probably like less and less as I got older, because my I really fell in love with sports and I really fell in love with competing and just you know, really focusing all my energy on that. And you know, your friends come over and they're into sports and stuff, and maybe they didn't grow up watching wrestling, or maybe they didn't grow up watching, you know, Dragon Ball Z or whatever you're into. And so I don't know, I just they were in the, you know, I had my drawers, and then you know, I would play with them, and then as time went on, you just start focusing on, you know, practices and and working on your craft there, and just that's where my interest took over. And, you know, they don't make action figures for ra I mean they did, and I even bought some of them back in the day, I think when I was nine or ten or whatever, but you know, you you just kind of other priorities and life shifts happen, and then I guess you're you're just so focused on that that they all that stuff kind of falls to the background, and so you don't really you're not really in the loop and you ride that wave of of sports or whatever, and then you know, one day you're not playing anymore, right? You're not playing anymore. So then you you kind of I put my competitive energy or you know, that expressive energy of playing and whatever, and I take that same energy and put it into my YouTube channel or put it into content creation now. And so, yeah, I mean, I think it got to a point where I think my parents were just like, oh, he doesn't play with these anymore, and they just sold them, they didn't keep any of them. I think we also had a flood when I was 10 or so, and I think I may have lost some figures uh to that, which is unfortunate. But yeah, I wish I had all my childhood figures, man. It would have been incredible. But I think I think just different things, you know, you're I think it was. You kind of just like lost interest a little bit, and you had more interest in other things, and then it's just like okay, I don't play with these anymore, so you know, you it didn't matter that they they were gone. Yeah, I mean, and I remember being upset about it when they told me that they sold them or whatever the case was. I do remember being like, Well, like, dang, I that would have been nice to like I do not remember, and of course you're a kid, so you don't I I probably didn't retain that memory anyway, but you know, you when I found out they were gone, uh, that was pretty upsetting because I'm like, man, that would have been nice to have for my kids or just to have to look back on. But yeah, at that time, you know, you're like, oh well, it's fine. I didn't play with them anyway, whatever. But yeah, and then you know, you just kind of naturally work back. I feel like that's how a lot of people go. I've I've heard that be like a universal experience where people are into something as a kid and then they grow out of it, and then once they enter into adulthood, it kind of naturally makes its way back once you don't give a shish about what other people think anymore. I don't know. That's that's something I've read. Yeah, I feel it's like way more acceptable. Like there's content creators like us and stuff who show that like it's you know way more acceptable and and normal, and there's different niches and communities where you know people can come and you share their interests. So yeah, I think it's probably more acceptable in this day and age. I don't know what it's like to be a kid in 2026. So I I I imagine it's still a little bit similar of people being, you know, I guess self-conscious about like whether or not they're too old to collect and things like that. But talk about like uh playing with the figures. Do you think is there a certain age where you should stop playing with the figures or that like like because I I think I stopped like playing with the figures. I know I do videos where it's like hand fed, but that's that's actually a lot, uh, a lot of work, like hours of work. But like I'm talking like actual, like you you're playing with the figures. For me, it was like I think 2015 when I was like maybe 14, and like the production in the arena started to like ramp up, and for some reason that made me like not want to play with it as much because I didn't want to like mess up the arena for some reason. I don't know what that was, but yeah, that's kind of the the time that I stopped playing with the figures. Do you think there's like a certain age where people should like should normally? There's no like should like people do what you want, do what you love. But do you think there's like a an age where people should like stop playing with the figures or something? Uh I mean, I don't know. I think uh, you know, it can go a few different ways. I wouldn't say that. I think I stopped playing with action figures maybe when I was 10, maybe 11, something like that. And I think it's just again because of my natural shift and focus just kind of shifted to where I didn't really care as much anymore. But I don't know, man. I think like our play comes in completely different forms now, right? I don't it mostly when we play with action figures now, it's uh part of a job or part of a video or part of creating a video around that, you know? And I don't know. I mean, I think people should do, you know, do what they want. Again, don't waste all your time or waste all your money or you know, ignore other priorities for that. But at the same time, I mean, dude, if you like to run your own wrestling show in your free time, like what's stopping you? You know what I mean? Like, go go go run that wrestling money at 17 or whatever the hell you want to do. I mean, I feel like I mean there's obviously well I was gonna say I think that there's probably as much as people are creating content online, there's definitely a there's definitely an underground hand-fed wrestling figure promotions scattered across the the globe. Yeah, you can let us know down in the the comments if you do play with the figures to this day as an adult. Like that's cool if you do. Because it's you know, playing with the the wrestling figures is so much different than playing with like a Spider-Man toy or something, because you're like you're booking your own like wrestling, like you can create your own storylines, match structure. You know, there's people that get paid to like put these matches together and script out things and create spots and stuff. You're doing all that, but you're doing it in a imaginative way with action figures, and it's fun. So, like I totally understand, you know, how people can go on playing with the action figures for wrestling, you know, longer than you know, Spider-Man or other toy lines. Yeah, 100%. And I also I get a lot of my play not only from content, but I play with my kids too, and it's still so much fun. So I mean, I guess it's obviously more fun when it's with your kids because you're you know, you're feeding off of one another and you're like trying to you know create these battles or whatever you're playing. But yeah, I mean it's fun. It's it is fun, and regardless if, you know, whatever age you are, it's still fun to this day. Like if you were alone in your room and you just started doing a match or whatever, you would get lost in it pretty quickly. Like you would get lost in it pretty quickly, especially if you're a wrestling fan or what have you, because it's fun. It's really fun, especially if you're a creative person, you know as well as I do. It's like you just have very creative. So I'm not I do not like the most play that I get by myself would be I'm sitting here working on something, and I just pick up a figure and I start like just posing them around. Like that's what I do randomly. I don't know if you do this, but I'll pick up a random figure that's on my I usually have one or two figures laying around my desk and I'll pick it up, whether I'm thinking, whether I'm trying to put together something, and I'll just like pose them around and I'm like just having fun with it or whatever. Yeah, I'm filming action figure matches every day, so I'm getting that in. But uh, you know, I I didn't I don't play with the figures like I did, like you know, when I was younger, but there have been times where I've like gotten the two figures together, or sometimes I don't even like to use the figures that I'm using filming because I don't want to like scuff them up or ruin the joints or anything. So I take like two figures and I kind of play the match out a little bit just to script it and get the match all written down. And sometimes like the energy of that, it's like you've gone through the whole emotions of the match and you're exhausted, and it feels like, oh man, I've like completed it, but then I gotta film this whole match now. I have a joke, but I'm just gonna save it. I don't wanna I don't wanna say it, but that's that's hilarious. Save the joke. No, I'm good, I'm good. Premature like yeah, premature. Yeah, that's right. Oh, that's funny, but yeah, I think that yeah, man, don't let people shame you into not enjoying the things that you like. I mean, I guess as long as it's not, you know, kicking babies under the bridge, you know what I'm saying. You're not, you know, don't uh don't waste your life away or whatever, but you should also, you know, you should enjoy things, man. I mean, whatever. For real, yeah. Alrighty. We're moving on to Mattel Msap. We're already close to our limit that we try to set ourselves every single time. We try to go, we're like, we we gotta at least hit an hour, and then we're like, damn, we're we're hitting an hour 20, probably. But let's uh let's get into the Mattel Ms. App, man. This Mattel Msap, you want to explain this one? Yeah, so it's the Shield ringside exclusive Kurt Angle. Now, this figure, he has uh a certain opinion on it, but I'll I'll give you mine right now. So I think it's a really cool ringside exclusive, had really cool packaging, but the it was totally inaccurate. They made him like Roman Reigns body, super jacked, super jacked shoulders, arms, torso. They gave him the wrong vest as well, which is like a Roman Reigns vest. He had more of like a Dean Ambrose type vest, and they gave him wrist tape instead of gloves as well. So a lot of inaccuracies, unfortunately. I think it's a cool idea, but very a lot of inaccuracies. I got to use that figure though as like one of the jokers for Joker John Moxley, so it came in handy. But what's your opinion on the shield code angle and it being a Mattel mishap? Yeah, so we got to set the stage because back then at that TLC pay-per-view, remember they had to change course because a bunch of people got sick or something like that, right? So they had to change course, they had to change the main event to this random handicap match. And they're like, uh, you know what? Kurt Angel's coming out of retirement. Well, being a big Kurt Angel guy, I'm like, oh my God, I can't wait to see Kurt Angle back in a ring for the first time. I think it was what in like 15 years or something or 10 years, something. It was it was a long time, long time since WWE ring first time in 10 years. I think it was 10 years, something like that. And I was excited. I'm like, oh, what what attire is he gonna wear? What singlet is he gonna wear? We're gonna get an action figure of this. It's gonna be epic. Is he gonna wear the damn boots that I always talk about? This is gonna be fantastic. So I sit down to watch this, and the man comes out dressed just like the shield. I talk about this all the time. I don't like the shield figures because it's the same legs and the same, they don't stand really well, you know, those old shield legs and the way that the figures were made. Very plain, like tactical gear. Like I do not care about that. So we're I know we're getting Kurt Angle in this tactical gear. He looks like a goof. I wanted single at Kurt Angle, like he can't even pull the damn straps down. And I mean, at this point in his career, he wasn't very, you know, he wasn't I think he kind of proved it. He really he was way past his prime at this point, which is very sad to see. But you add all of that up together with the figure and the mistakes that Nate's talking about, and I was just like, bro, I do this is the last action figure I want. I do not want a a figure of this moment replicated because the moment sucked. I want to say, didn't the match suck, if I'm not mistaken? Or people, I think people were praising that. It was solid. I think I remember people praising that match. I didn't like the match, I didn't like the the whole convoluted booking. I understand they had to throw something together because people were sick. Like I get that, but I was just I did not like that. I as a Kurt Angel fan, I was not a fan of that entire thing. And then they made an action figure of it, and I thought it was. But what do you think of the inaccuracies? Do you care about the inaccuracies? Because for me, that's that's the issue with this figure. I don't care about the inaccuracies because I didn't care about the moment and I I didn't like the moment. So it's like I don't really that's kind of how I felt about it. I didn't care because I didn't care, I guess, is how I felt. But I can't. So you just hate this, you just hate the idea of this figure, not even just the figure itself. Correct. The fact that it's made is a mistake to me. Right. But that's yeah, so that's how I felt about it. But I don't know. I I remember that being a whole thing on the channel years ago. And I still when I talk about figures I hate, that one's always up there, funny enough, just as like a reminder. But yeah, that's our Mattel mishap. It's shield Kurt Angle. I want to know down below if anybody liked that figure, if you have a story about that figure. But yeah, he was jacked as hell. They gave him that. Not that the figure's head sculpt didn't look like Kurt Angle, I just thought it was a goofy head, too. It was a very weird kind of head. He was kind of goofy this time, but yeah, like ringside. If you're listening, re-release this just to piss him off. Uh please don't. Nah. From the vault shield, Kurt Angle. And they give him huge jack double jointed arms. Yeah, I mean, might as well run it back for the one time. But we're gonna wrap the show up today with Mount Rushmore. But the Mount Rushmore is gonna be a little bit different this time. We're gonna be doing four canon collector events. So, four canon events. If you guys don't know what a canon event, I'll try to pop up the definition maybe or something, but it's basically something that every collector goes through, pretty much. A canon event is something that a lot of people can relate to or have gone through themselves. And so today we're gonna give you four canon collector events. So something that maybe you've gone through as a collector, and we've probably gone through as collectors, and we wanted to give you things that we thought were probably the top ones. And if we forgot anything, you can let us know. But uh, you go first with the first one. So the first canon event for WB figure collectors is hiding figures in stores. Now, I as a kid, I don't know how I found out about this. Did I find someone's hidden figure? Did I hide it myself? Was it just instinct to just hide this figure? But like, I think it's like, okay, yeah, hide it so you can come back and get it next time, pretty much. But yeah, every time I go to the stores, like I'll I'll look under the the shelf and see if anyone's hidden any good figures. But did you do this as a kid? As a kid, or is this something you do as an adult? Oh, I absolutely do it as an adult. Like, okay, yeah, 100%. I do this as an adult. Sometimes I'm like, dude, I really just don't feel like spending this money at this exact moment right now. I should absolutely just do it to knock it out, but I just don't want to in that moment. I don't know if anybody can relate to that. But or they'll have a bunch of stuff, and you're like, dude, I really should not spend $200 right now. Like, that just wouldn't be responsible. That would be stupid. So I'm not gonna do that right this second. So maybe you hide some different stuff or whatever. I actually I think it was last week I went back to a target and what I hid was still there. So I, you know, and usually on my toy hunts, we'll find hidden stuff all the time. And I'm like, I'm gonna put this back. You got blessed this time, and we'll put it back under there or whatever. But yeah, absolutely everybody hides figures, man. I think everybody's hidden a figure at some point, hope, hoping. And I don't know if you've done this, but have you ever hid a figure and then you go back and you can't remember where you hid it? Ooh, I don't know. It's been ages since I've ever hidden a figure, but it's like sometimes you might hide a figure and then it's gone, like somebody took it. That's definitely happened, that's definitely happened to me as well, for sure. But I guess for me, I I put down toy photography or feding. I feel like everybody has either seen something or or tried. Maybe you saw a Fed and wanted to try your own Fed, whether it be a hand fed or you know, whatever, or toy photography. You see these talented toy photographers in the community, and you're like, oh, I want to try this. And then you you try your hand at maybe you use a phone or an old camera or whatever, and you quickly realize that it is a lot tougher than you may think. Yeah, yeah. I feel like everybody's at least at some point, you know, taken a photo of the figure or you know, tried to film an action figure match, and yeah, it is way more difficult than you would think. So not a lot of people, you know, stick with it. But yeah, like I think that's definitely something that every figure collector has done. Yeah, man, 100%. What's your next one? My next one is customizing figures. So this could be even at the basic level. When I was a kid, I would, you know, I've talked about this. I think in the last episode, it was like taking a Sharpie, drawing beards on wrestlers, coloring their hair, even like just a pen, just like using a pen. Like I remember Randy Orton when he got the sleeve tattoos, I would like draw skulls on his arms to give him the updated look. But yeah, like even you know, back then, just doing the basic, you know, Sharpie. And then, you know, as as you get older, it evolves. And especially now with YouTube, all the things you can find to you know help you create, you know, figures, customs and stuff. Like, there's a lot of resources out there now. But even at the basic level, I feel like everyone's like used a sharpie or a texture or something to customize their figures. Yeah, man, 100%. Also, red sharpie or red marker for blood. I feel like that goes hand in hand with that one. You know, people use or tomato, uh tomato sauce, or as Americans say, ketchup. Yeah, ketchup. Yeah, man. Red Sharpie, then that guy's bleeding forever. You're not getting that off the Figure that ink seeps into that plastic, it's cooked, man. It's absolutely cooked. Yeah, I think everybody can relate to that one. And then the final one that I had here was you ever like just look at your collection or look at your figures in general, or you just look around at all of the figures you've collected and you're just thinking to yourself, what if I sold all of this? Like, what if I got rid of all this? Maybe you've thought about the process of how long it would take, or how much money you've put into your collection, or how much is your collection worth, or you know, just the different things that uh revolve around that. Have you ever had that thought, Nate? Have you ever looked around at your collection and thought, man, what if I what would happen if I sold all this, or what if I got rid of all this? I never thought to sell the entire collection, but there's definitely like portions of the collection I've thought of selling. And like sometimes like I put it up on you know sites and stuff. I never put it on Instagram. I want to sell it in Australia because it's just easier. Yeah, but like no takers. Like it's hard to sell the figures for like what you paid for it, you know, to you know, get a decent price for it. But yeah, I feel like uh for a lot of collectors, that's definitely a canon event of like thinking, okay, I'm gonna sell all these figures. Some people like I have a friend who sold all his figures, now he's just coming back into it, and he just like got back into collecting, and now he's buying up all the figures, getting his collection back. He's rebuying everything, yeah. In his 20s, yeah. That that kind of happened to me with my with my Dragon Ball Z stuff, like back in 2015. I think maybe I can't remember off the top of the dome, but originally I had you know a collection of those, and then I wanted to just I started collecting you know Mattel's hardcore, and then I was like, okay, I really want to, you know, start this Fed, start this channel. And so I got uh a bunch of of Legends figures that I collected of Mattel's, you know, in that short span, maybe six to eight months or whatever it was that I had been collecting. And I was like, okay, I I don't need this Lex Luger, I don't need this Macho Man, I don't need these figures because I was like, okay, I'm gonna go all in on you know the roster that I'm gonna build. And so I was like, okay, I don't need these legends because what do I what do I need them for? And so I got maybe 20, 30 legends that I had. I got you know all my Dragon Ball Z stuff, sold all of it all off. And now I'm thinking to myself, why did I do that? Like, I mean, yeah, I wanted the money to fund everything, but at the same time, I'm like, damn, I wish I wouldn't have sold those off because I still I I really do not think I've ever went back and gotten those legends that I sold off, like those specific figures. I think it was Elite 45 Lex Luger and Elite 44 Macho Man, and like these figures like that that I had sold off that I never went back and refilled the hole. And I always tell myself, okay, when if I ever part with something, I always think to myself, okay, if I if I wanted it bad enough, could I go back and get it again? And that usually leads to me selling. I'm like, I can always go back and get this. Now, of course, I've sold one-off customs and things that would be really complicated to re-get, but you know, I've I've done different special things for whatnot streams and stuff like that. And I do want to, I'm uh speaking of which, since we're here at the end of the show, I am gonna start um, I'm gonna try and start to get whatnot streams going again. If you guys don't know what whatnot is, basically it's like live live streaming, but mixed with eBay kind of, and you can bid on items and stuff like that. So I'm gonna be going through my collection and not necessarily selling off everything, obviously, but I'm I plan on just getting cutting some of the fluff stuff that you know other people could use and then you know different things like that that just have no real use in 2026, I guess is the best way to describe it. Like I've talked about before with you know single-jointed arms or figures that I have multiples of that I'm not ever gonna use the parts for any reason, I don't think. And if I ever really do need that, then I'll track it down, I guess. But I just want to, I guess, cut the cut some of the fluff around here. Yeah, you need to you need to make some space on those shelves that are overflowing. They are there, absolutely absolutely are. So yeah, I want to I want to do that. Just clean it up a little bit, tidy it up. I'd like to really like redisplay everything in a different way, but those shelves on the back wall are they'd be I feel like it'd be really difficult to to change that up, but I don't know. Maybe we'll see. I'll I'll definitely keep everyone updated if if we change it. But yeah, you have anything else you want to add here? No, I think we about covered it with the the canon events. I think every figure collector has you know at least had like three or two, two at least, or three of you know those canon events that we just listed. Yeah, I want to hear from people, man. If you listen to this point, yeah, give us more canon events if you have some. Yeah, yeah. I bet down below. I definitely think that some people could add to it or they could think of stuff that we wouldn't even think of. So I would definitely like to hear from people down below, man. But I think that is gonna wrap up My Damn Creators episode number nine. Can't wait to get started on some more filming for the Fed episode. You have anything you want to add, Nate? Yeah, I can't wait to you know get these WrestleMania matches out for the summer. But yeah, great episode today. We'll see you guys next week. All right, man. Y'all heard it here. Have a blessed one. We'll catch you guys next week. My damn creators, episode nine, is cooked.