Who Should DEBUT In WSC & MDT!?

Welcome to Episode #10 of My Damn Creators! 

We’ve officially hit double digits! MDT and WSC are celebrating 10 weeks of breaking down the wild world of action figure wrestling feds, and you’re invited. This episode, the guys dive into the creative process behind running a Fed, the challenges (and fun) of booking new superstars, and the ups and downs of working with the latest wrestling figures.

Plus, we talk about the excitement of live premieres, fan reactions to WrestleMania 2’s first matchup, and how customs and new figures might shake things up when planning out future shows. MDT and WSC also go through a list of wrestling names—some highly requested, some surprising—and reveal who might have a shot at being booked next.

Want to know what goes on behind the scenes, hear some funny stories, and get a taste of how much work and passion fuels your favorite action figure feds? This episode is for you!

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Transcript

SPEAKER_00 0:00

Welcome in, everybody, to episode 10 of My Damn Creators. I am MDT. That's my boy WSC Nate over there, man. Today we're back with our 10th episode, which probably puts us in the top 3% of all podcasts ever, I think. You know, I think that most podcasts they say don't go past what five episodes or something like that. So we're we're killing it right now. We're on a we're cruising. How are we feeling today?

SPEAKER_01 0:22

Feeling good. Like 10 weeks of episodes. Wow, we made it, man. Like it's really tough to, you know, we're a niche on top of a niche, and you know, talking about, you know, the behind the scenes of you know the action figure fed and all things action figures in WWE. You know, it's hard to like think of you know the clickable titles and stuff, but I feel like it's always great conversations and yeah, there's been a lot of fun. So happy 10th. Yeah, let's go.

SPEAKER_00 0:49

Anniversary, I should have brought a cake or something like that. But yeah, anyways, uh yeah, today today's an interesting one that we're gonna get into a little bit. But before we do that, you did just release your first matchup of WrestleMania 2, which was epic, by the way, was crazy. I want to talk to you a little bit about that before we get into it and we can discuss that as always. But how did you feel that the premiere and how everything kind of went for that first matchup?

SPEAKER_01 1:13

Thank you. Yeah, the premiere 3,000 people for the show, which was great to, you know, it's always great to get the community all together and have that live experience. I love those live premieres. So premiering the first match of Mania was really cool. I thought it was a really fun match. You know, it's not typical that you, you know, have the multiversal championship be defended in a regular rules match, but I thought it was great for what it was, Bron Breaker and Brock Lesnar. Epic stuff there. And yeah, I'm really excited to roll on with the rest of the matches there. It with the Brock Lesnar figure, that BEW head sculpt, great head scan, but man, the head, the nose would always chip off, and like the face too. And I had to paint it up the whole time, like in between takes. Like I have him grabbing on to Braun for a German suplex, and his face would rub it up against his back and the paint would come off. So I'd have to like paint it up again. So it was an annoying process. So I really am looking forward to getting that ultimate edition Brock with the hair, so I can stop using a custom head scan. But it looks great, but yeah, it's not functional for you know the Fed.

SPEAKER_00 2:23

Yeah, it's one of those things where you know it it's obviously just meant for display, and you're trying to, you know, you're trying to roughshot it and get it in there. And that's always the the trouble that you run into with trying to use customs and of any kind, even if it's tights or whatever, when the you know you're constantly rubbing plastic and rough housing it and stuff like that, you know, that that stuff tends to have. I'm I'm interested to know. I bet it's probably it's probably worse with VidFed, right? Because the video is a little bit different. You're actually like slamming the figure sometimes, you have it moving and making contact.

SPEAKER_01 2:53

Like I was saying, even just posing like a German suplex where he's grabbing him and his head just like happens to be up against the body, like it'll just like take off the paint for some reason. So yeah, it was annoying. But yeah, definitely more in vid fed. Like the first time it like chipped on the nose was that barnyard match, and you can see it in the barnyard match where like he gives a German suplex to LA Knight, and like he comes up and his nose is all like chipped, and like a couple days later, I get the paint to fix it up, so his nose is fixed up by the end of that video. Did anybody call it out in the comment section? No, I don't think people really care that much. Yeah, but yeah, also just one thing I wanted to mention was shout out to Santi Zap. I don't know if you know him and Sancho West. They do like wrestling is cool podcast, and you know, Santi's a huge like YouTuber on here, and they actually reacted to that barnyard match in a Warzone match as well on their Patreon, which is really cool. So it's really cool to get recognized by like people outside of the figure space and in the wider IWC. So that was really cool. So shout out to them.

SPEAKER_00 4:00

I didn't know they did that. That's pretty sweet. I wonder, did they put it they didn't put it on their normal YouTube channel? So it's like is it part of the like podcast sort of reaction deal?

SPEAKER_01 4:09

Uh well, they put like little previews in like each of their or insante's like daily videos, but yeah, I saw it on their Patreon, so yeah, it was really cool. See the reactions.

SPEAKER_00 4:19

I didn't know that. Yeah, that's awesome. Yeah, I saw where the I that barnyard clip had gotten some motion too. So that's how they found it. Yeah, yeah, that's sick. That's always it's really cool when like figure stuff like that, like breaks out of just the fate. Like you have, I think you have, you know, like certain virality, and then you have like kind of like figure community virality where it's like okay, this reach, and then you have it where it reaches, you know, maybe like regular wrestling fans and what have you. Kind of like the clear John Cena or something like that, where it kind of gets beyond that, and it's like you know, it gets pushed out and pushed out. So yeah, that's always super sick, man. So congrats on that. That's that's legendary, right there. And then going back to what you said about the live viewership, that's why I always like premiering the shows. And I think for this episode too, I'm also gonna premiere it. I just think that's just the way to go. The return after five years, I think you gotta premiere that. You it's gotta be kind of uh, you know, like a thing where everybody just comes together and watches together, and that'd be uh yeah, yeah, it's a lot of fun for sure. Yeah, seeing everybody's live reactions, it's just super hype. So yeah, that's definitely what the way to go. 100%. Yeah, I I totally agree. But the the matchup, if you guys haven't seen it, you definitely need to go check it out 100%. And yeah, I'm not gonna, I don't, I was gonna get into a little bit of it, but I don't I don't want to like spoil anything, so I won't I want people to go.

SPEAKER_01 5:36

Yeah, because there's some people who you know are not watching each individual match and they're waiting for the full show. I mean, you could give a little spoiler blocker if you wanted to, but yeah, we don't have to, I guess we don't have to get into spoilers.

SPEAKER_00 5:49

This isn't necessarily uh I won't get into the full spoiler, I guess, but just I really appreciate as always, right? We we really care about our presentation, we care about the way things look and stuff like that, and you always do a stellar job on that, as we know, with the different arena sets and stuff like that. But I, for one, I was really impressed with the stage design. I loved how you had I've talked to you already about this, but I want people to know too. I liked how you had the stage set up, the way that it, you know, was lit up and the the intro and all these different things was just really well done. So I really appreciated it.

SPEAKER_01 6:20

Thanks. Yeah, the intro. Yeah, I had to make that intro. And uh yeah, it's a lot of fun to to do that. People seem to really love the intro, and I'm so glad I can license some like good music for it too. So that was really cool. And yeah, I think the stage looks like really nice. I love that I could use that screen in a different way, in a way that really fits Vegas. So, and I'm getting like custom graphics as well to like fit that screen for the the superstars, which is really cool going forward. I had I made that Bron Breaker one that you saw in that video. I thought I did pretty cool, uh pretty good job with it. But yeah, I'm getting some custom ones made for the next video, so that should be cool to see. Hell yeah, dude.

SPEAKER_00 7:02

All righty. Well, I look forward to seeing the next one. Gunther and John Moxley coming up. Yeah, announcement.

SPEAKER_01 7:08

Yeah, that's gonna be the next matchup. Yeah, John Moxley, you know, one of the faces of WSC, the first ever WSC hardcore champion. And Gunther, you know, you know, the map's sacred to him. He hates the hardcore style, and he feels like he has to wrestle in WSC because that's where the money's made. That's the biggest platform to do so. And he wants to conquer John Moxley, and he wants to, I guess, expose him as a fraud in a match without any weapons. How is Moxley gonna do? It's gonna take him to his limits, gonna test him and see if Moxley is all he's cracked up to be, or is the ring general the ring general for a reason? So it's gonna be very interesting, very hyped. And hopefully, you know, I can get it out by the weekend or early next week. That's what I'm shooting for. But yeah, working hard and already getting stuck into it.

SPEAKER_00 7:54

Let's go, man. Good stuff. Well, there's your kind of preview there. As far as I go, we're we're just chipping away, man. I I really I wish I had more for you, but there's really I've I'm I'm on the main event, so you can know that. I've been editing and filming at the same time. I've got most of I've I'd say one third of the show is completely edited. I'm on the main event filming wise, so that's the last thing that I have to film. So that is that is good. That is good news right now.

SPEAKER_01 8:19

We're getting real close.

SPEAKER_00 8:20

Yeah, dude. I'm I'm hype. Yeah, I'm hyped. Um low-key. I'm nervous, but I'm it's like uh exciting nervous. It's been it's been fun to kind of get the juices flowing. So we'll see how that goes. But you're nervous about like putting it out, like what uh what are you nervous about? I'm more I guess like anxious. Like I'm excited for everybody to see it. I'm excited to see what people's thoughts are, what's the reaction gonna be?

SPEAKER_01 8:45

What if yeah, I guess like when you don't post as much, like I used to post all the time, like I used to post weekly back in the day, so I guess you get a little more there's a little more emphasis on the the video itself, especially like you coming back after five years, so I could get you know how you're nervous. But I think people are just really excited to see, you know, the next installment.

SPEAKER_00 9:06

Yeah, uh and I hope that's the reaction, right? I hope that you know everybody just comes, you know. I I don't know what people's expectations are, you know. They've only seen I guess that's true, yeah. So you don't I don't know what people were expecting, you know. There there may be some people that didn't. I mean, this will happen. I'm sure there will be people that have not seen anything for five years, really Fed related. They haven't seen the teasers, they haven't seen any of the things we posted, the Roman Reigns promo where he cut on me, or you know, the little just snippets that I've posted on I posted on my Patreon. I've posted like different snippets here and there. I've since used stuff. You know, I think there's gonna be people that didn't see any of those things, and they're just gonna show them be like, oh man, this is completely different than what he did last time. And then there's people that kind of have an expectation of kind of what to expect, like the style or what have you. So yeah, it'll be interesting to see how it all comes together and what people think. But yeah, it'll be hopefully ready sooner rather than later. Um I it will be uploaded in June. It will be uploaded in June. So that gives me what three weeks today. Is that three weeks today? What's today's day?

SPEAKER_01 10:11

Uh it's probably three weeks, yeah. Something like that. It's the ninth.

SPEAKER_00 10:15

Yeah, like that's my deadline. I'm giving myself. So if I don't meet that, then I just guess disappoint myself. But I I'm pretty sure it'll be done by then. But regardless of the fact, we the thing we're diving into today is interesting. We're kind of going on a would you kind of like would you rather I guess kind of it's not entirely that, but we're basically going to be running down a list. Nate has a list of wrestlers here, and we're gonna be talking about whether or not we would book them today, or you know, maybe why we haven't booked them in the past, or just a list of wrestlers on our thoughts on bringing them into our own personal feds, booking them, and our thoughts on that entire thing. Is that pretty much what we're doing here?

SPEAKER_01 11:00

Yeah, so basically we have a list of wrestlers. You know, Trey's list is a lot bigger than mine because he hasn't, you know, fed consistently since like you know, five years ago. So this a lot of people say, you know, Trey should like revamp the Fed and stuff. We're gonna see what his opinions on, you know, the current crop of wrestlers that he hasn't used in the show. And we're gonna see, you know, whether or not he would book them. We would also see some people who haven't made their way to WSC, and we'll see what my opinions are and if I will ever use them in the future. So let's start off with the first name here, and you can give me your opinion on whether or not you would book him or or not. It's gonna be Oba Femi. What's your opinion?

SPEAKER_00 11:42

Oba Femi. Oba Femi, obviously Oba Femi, obviously, very talented, roll tied. Okay, he attended the University of Alabama. I don't know if people know this, but he actually was, I think it was his freshman year at Alabama. He was roommates with one of my best friends growing up, so he was legitimately roommates with my friend, and I think he threatened to kill his dog one time. And the dog, the dog, to be fair, the dog was very annoying. I didn't like the dog either. So you know what? Oba Femi was correct on this one, not gonna lie.

SPEAKER_01 12:12

But no, and seriously what would the dog do?

SPEAKER_00 12:14

I think it was mistaken, it was just it just yapped, bro. It was one, it's one of those small dogs, it's like yapping all the damn time. It's like, can you please get your dog before Oba Femi absolutely crushes it? But yeah, so that's that's a little fun fact there tying into Oba Femi. But yeah, Oba Femi, I guess it would have to be the I don't know. I I don't really have like a strong urge to want to film with them necessarily. Obviously, any big character like that, when you get into your Brock Lesnar's and your Braun Strowman's and your Kane characters, they're they're super fun to book, right? I I think that you may be a little limited, like you kind of get handcuffed in certain ways of booking monster characters. But I think that while he would be fun in certain ways, I'm I'm not overly excited to bring him in. I'm not like, oh, I gotta get this figure and I gotta book him in there. Not to mention, you know, Mattel, they gave us one elite, we don't have an ultimate of him yet. Not that that matters that much, but you know, he's got a goofy smiling head sculpt.

SPEAKER_01 13:12

It's like the that's the thing you always say is like smiling. A lot of people get this confused. It's a gritting teeth, it's like an err. It's not smiling, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 13:22

Oba Fimmi's dude, there's no, yeah, it's not like er, it may be it's not a smile.

SPEAKER_01 13:28

Why would he be smiling? Yeah, why is he smiling? He looks like he's not smiling, brother. It's a gritting teeth expression, you know. The Rollins figure had a gritting teeth expression, Roman Reigns figure had a gritting teeth expression. People get that confused with a smiling head.

SPEAKER_00 13:43

I don't know, man. I don't know. That opened.

SPEAKER_01 13:46

I think there's even a reference photo of him doing that that expression.

SPEAKER_00 13:50

I'm gonna have a phone or something. I got hold up. Let me give my phone.

SPEAKER_01 13:55

We gotta get to the bottom of this. Let me look this up because it's like a crazed look. His eyes are wide and he's like girding his teeth.

SPEAKER_00 14:03

Dude, when I look at it, it looks like he's taking his school photo. That's what it looks like to me. Hold up, yeah. But people get that confused all the time. I know, like the Seth Rollins was a little like more obvious, I think. I think in this case, okay, it's bringing it up, but it's not loading for some reason. Come on, man. It's being all smiled.

SPEAKER_01 14:22

Might even be on the box, I'm not sure, but I've seen like him do that expression.

SPEAKER_00 14:27

Dude, he is smiling, brother.

SPEAKER_01 14:29

Sure. That is that is a smile. No, I'm not looking at the figure. They just, I guess they did a bad job of.

SPEAKER_00 14:38

But it looks like one of Kofi Kingston's figures. Like he looks like he's like, you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_01 14:42

Yeah, they just did a bad job of, you know.

SPEAKER_00 14:45

I'm not saying yeah, I'm saying maybe it wasn't supposed to be, but it looks like he's got his eyes, but he's he's he's smiling with his eyes, brother. He's in there, he's he's ready for the game.

SPEAKER_01 14:55

I think that's what throws it off, but it's it's gritting teeth.

SPEAKER_00 14:58

Man, well they they drop the ball on that one. They dropped the ball on that one. But yeah, Oba Fimi, I love Oba Femi as a as a you know, uh like I'm I'm not like the biggest fan of him, but I do love Oba Fimi in sense of I think he's good for wrestling. I love you know his entrance. I think that he's strong, obviously, but I don't I'm not like some super fan, no, but I I I do enjoy Oba Femi. I'm interested to see where you know maybe WWE does. I do think he's gonna win King of the Ring. We discussed that off screen. I think he is gonna be a lock for the King of the Ring, but yeah, I don't know. What's your uh you haven't booked Oba Femi? This is one of your highly requested characters, correct?

SPEAKER_01 15:37

Yeah, so I haven't booked Oba Femi yet. I am definitely open to booking Oba Femi. I really like Oba Femi. I think his matches are great. I think he's more more than just like a big plotting guy, like he's really good in the ring. But yeah, it's obviously hard to you know book those kinds of characters. And you know, his entrance is gonna be really hard to to replicate as well. So that's gonna be tricky if and when I I do that. But yeah, he'll I think you know it's only a matter of time. And if and you know, it's when when is Oba Gami gonna show up in WSC. So we'll have to wait and see. But it's it's all about timing. I'm not just gonna bring him in when it doesn't make sense, but you know, I have a good idea of you know when that might be.

SPEAKER_00 16:20

Yeah, a lot of people, a lot of people I know uh for a fact back in the day with a lot of feds, and I'm sure pick feds still do this. I'm not entirely in the know now on all the pick feds and the lore and the you know the meta right now, but back in the day, you know, a new figure comes out, you'd immediately see it plugged in all these different shows because people want to use these new figures and stuff. That probably happened with the Oba Femi Elite, right? I'm sure that happened in the community at the time.

SPEAKER_01 16:44

Dude, it's so rare that elite right now.

SPEAKER_00 16:47

Look at that. I think I've I've found two or three at retail, and everybody's like, oh, that obefimi. And I'm just I don't know. It's not like I think from the neck down the with the BEW upgrade, I really do like it a lot. I think it's pretty strong. I like the gear, stuff like that. But yeah, I mean, I think it would be fun to book Oba Fimi in terms of strong, it's just it's hard to plug someone in, especially like right now, there's no way to plug in really any new characters if they weren't already planned for, right? Because you're already you're so far down the road. But once you have, you know, that quote unquote refresh or revamp, whatever, you never know who could show up at that point.

SPEAKER_01 17:23

But or you could just tear up the script and just get him in there, yeah. I mean, just everything that you've built, just throw it out. Yeah, I mean, yeah. But you know that that Oba Femi figure, like I've got two of them because one, his tattoo was like misprinted on like his like the side of his shoulder, and then the next one I got, he's got like paint splotches on his head, and it's like, man, I can't they can't get it right. What's going on with this quality control? And now he's like super expensive, so I guess I gotta fix up the paint splotch. I guess. Damn, hate to see that.

SPEAKER_00 17:58

Yeah, you're gonna have to fix that up. What's the next name on the list?

SPEAKER_01 18:01

The next name on the list. Should I go with I'll go with one that's exclusively for you, Bronn Breaker? How are you feeling about the new WSC multiversal champion? Braun Breaker realized.

SPEAKER_00 18:14

One thing I do love about Braun Breaker is I love, I and this is something I love across all wrestling. I like his physicality, I like how serious he is in terms of you know how intense he is, how hard-hitting it he is, things like that. I'm not really attached to the character per se, you know, like some characters of the past, like guys that I like, like uh, you know, I'm not tied to him like a Seth Rollins or Finn Balor or Ziggler or something like that. So I'm not really like drawn to him like that, but I do appreciate his work in terms of that. Um, as far as like booking him, I I might would run him in like a stable or something like that. It wouldn't be something that I was, you know, like, oh, this is our next U.S. champion, I don't think. But yeah, I mean, I I wouldn't completely throw him out. And the same, same thing with Oba Femi. I wouldn't completely throw him out either. It's just I think I could creatively, I feel like I could fit Braun Breaker in more. I think. I mean, I'm I'm just thinking off the top of the dome. I didn't know exactly who you were gonna pitch, but I think it would probably be a little bit easier to book, but who who knows? You know, I don't know. But I when I think of it, I think of Oba Fimi monster character or more of a dominant, and then Braun Breaker can be that, but I'm thinking more of a I don't know, less lesser appeal or lesser, you know, grandiose sort of personality, I guess, is where I'm going. I don't know. What do you think?

SPEAKER_01 19:38

Well, yeah, he's a part of my show, he's a part of my faction, the upper echelon. But the do you think that, you know, real life wrestling, like the way that say Brombreaker is presented or has recently been presented, does that affect your opinion on him as far as like you being excited to, you know, put him in the show? Or do you think it's like he's new, he doesn't have like the equity yet, you know, to for you to care about him as much as you know other wrestlers?

SPEAKER_00 20:08

Hmm. I don't know. I think if I'm drawn to a character, if I really like what something somebody's doing or whatever, it makes me more excited for them. If they have a really cool moveset or something like that, you may get more intrigued, or maybe I don't know if you do this too, but you may have like, you know, you're constantly writing in your head or constantly thinking of ideas. So you may think of a really cool way to book them or put them in a faction or you know, just some cool creative things you can do with them. And that I feel like that probably forces it more than you know, the way they're portrayed on TV, because I think that there are some people that you know haven't been on TV in forever, but I still would like to, you know, push them or or whatever the case is.

SPEAKER_01 20:48

So yeah. So as far as the next one that both of us have not booked yet, it is Swerve Strickland, a little a AEW action. How do you feel about Swerve Strickland? And would you put him in the show?

SPEAKER_00 21:02

Well, you go first. Since I since I did Braun, you go ahead and do Swerve and then I'll give you mine.

SPEAKER_01 21:07

I think Swerve would be a fantastic fit for WSC. You know, he's proven that like he can do that hardcore style, and I think that would really suit WSC. I think you know his presentation in AEW is awesome. I just think that, you know, a lot of my fans are WWE fans, and you know, using AEW stars, they might not get as many, you know, as much interest or views or as as appreciated as much because maybe some of the viewers don't know them. There's obviously characters like John Moxley, MJF, Will Ospreay, that you know, I like putting in the show and I think are good characters and I can do good stuff with, but you know, there's maybe maybe it's I don't know if I would put Swerve in immediately, maybe down the line. He's certainly someone I'm very interested in. In in using, how do you feel about him?

SPEAKER_00 22:03

Yeah, I I would love to book Swerve. I've always loved Swerve, and he's one of those characters like that I'm drawn to. I think his figures are really well made too. I don't think you'd have to really go out and you know create some elaborate custom figure or something like that, especially just to get him in the door. I think his Comic-Con figure is fantastic. So I really love the way the figure feels. I think it looks like him too. And I think there's a lot of fun things you could do with him. Like you mentioned with the hardcore stuff. You got, you know, the extreme championship divisions always open. I think he'd be he'd be fun. He'd be fun to just kind of get creative with. I think he'd be he's got a cool moveset, he's got a nice presentation, cool figures. I mean, what's not the like about Swerf? He would be a fantastic pick, I think. He'd be somebody I'd be like, oh yeah, let's see what we can do.

SPEAKER_01 22:48

Yeah, I'd I'd want Prince Nana too, but unfortunately that's not gonna happen. We're not gonna get that figure.

SPEAKER_00 22:53

That's I hope I there's I think there's still hope. I think there's still hope that that comes. Okay, I think there's still hope with that. It's not you know 100% confirmed, but I think there is some hope out there that we'll still get that figure. I hope and pray. And I actually met I've met both of them, and they were both incredible people. Like Prince Nana and Swerve are two of the nicest wrestlers I've ever met. So it'd be I would love to, you know, book their fate. I want that Prince Nana figure very much.

SPEAKER_01 23:19

Yeah, yeah. And on to the next one along the same lines, Kyle Fletcher. How do you feel about Kyle Fletcher and would you book him in the Fed?

SPEAKER_00 23:27

I love Kyle Fletcher. I've talked about that on the channel. I've also met him, and he he's awesome. I think that, you know, getting that Chase White gear would be sick under the lights. And the figure feels really, really good in hand, too. So that I don't know if that would, you know, sway you in any way, but his AEW figure does feel good. I don't know if you have it, but it's really good. Obviously, it's outdated, of course, but it still moves. You could always get a custom head sculpt, I guess, or put some tattoos on it if you needed to. But I love Kyle Fletcher. I think he's another really fun figure and talent, and he'd be he'd be fun to book. And I don't know, I feel like he'd be e you know, some of these guys are just easier to plug in, in my opinion, in certain ways. Like a Kyle Fletcher or a Swerve, they kind of have this kind of wild card about them that you could probably, I don't know, maneuver easier. And they're kind of, you know, you can kind of just throw them in there and it not be this big ordeal or this huge thing. But then, you know, like an Oba Femi, I just feel like that's that kind of puts stakes into your into your uh like what you're trying to book almost like not necessarily that those other guys don't have any threat to the main event or something like that, but you it's like you put a guy like Oba Femi in and you it could like redirect the course of action everywhere. Am I making any sense? You see what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_01 24:43

Yeah, yeah, for sure. And you know, my opinion on you know Kyle Fletcher, I I like Kyle Fletcher, I think he's got a lot of potential. I think he's gonna be one of the top stars in the future of the industry. I just think that along the same lines, a lot of people who are just WWE fans, they don't know who Kyle Fletcher is. So maybe down the line, let's say he goes to WWE, that might be the time to use Kyle Fletcher, and he'll get it appreciated more, I guess. You know, my work with Kyle Fletcher then, as opposed to, you know, now when not a lot of people know who he is, really.

SPEAKER_00 25:18

Well, do you think that you could be the like do you think you could get somebody over like that? Do you think you could book them in such a way that they get connected to them to where you could book them on the show further?

SPEAKER_01 25:31

Well, that's interesting because I have experimented like with that. Like, you know, say someone like Austin Theory, you know, I booked him in like a world championship position and told a different story, and I love doing that, and I love like trying those things, but then there's that casual audience or like who sees what they see on WWE, and you know, they don't connect with it as much. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 25:58

This is a realistic key wouldn't beat Roman Reigns, like brother. This is a fantasy federation, like yeah, right. So, like, what's the better story? Like, we're telling a story here. This is all about this, isn't about the real Austin theory. This is about WSC's Austin Theory, this is about MDT's Finn Balor. This is about, you know what I mean? So I think, yeah, like I think that's like that's the whole point of the whole Fed. That's the point, is to you know, you don't come here for freaking the same thing you see on WWE. Like, yeah, you get elements of it, but it's supposed to be a fantasy. That's what makes it fun and entertaining. Like anybody can do, you know, Cody Rhodes and Roman Reigns and the main event again. It's about you know doing your own thing, making your own story.

SPEAKER_01 26:41

Yeah, I've always said, like, you know, if I was doing the Fed and booking Cody Rhodes in a top position in 2020, not as many people would have cared about that as opposed to if I did that in 2023-2024, because of you know, hit being on that WWE platform. So it definitely does have like an impact, you know, what you see in WWE.

SPEAKER_00 27:03

Yeah, that's a good point. That's interesting. It's kind of crazy too, is uh I guess like both MDT champions are still relevant today, you know, like the bloodline is still stronger than ever in 2026 as it was back five years ago, which is kind of crazy, you know. Yeah, um, or I guess you know, they were kind of just being like taking shape and form or whatever. But you know what I mean? It's it's kind of crazy how that unfolds. But let's uh you ready for the next name?

SPEAKER_01 27:32

Yeah, the next name is going to be MJF. How do you feel about the current AEWL champion?

SPEAKER_00 27:39

I love MJF. I think he's fantastic. I think again, I don't know. I I like to think of I like to think my Fed is not so, you know, just over the years, it's never been just this nose clean, just straight, you know. I I like to think of taking like modern stars or like different things of the modern day and then kind of implementing a ruthless aggression edge to it, is how I've always wanted to book my shows in Fed. And so MJF, I feel like fits that mold. He fits that perfect, you know, you could plug him in. He's another guy that I think would just be so easy to bring in and just go ahead, like cause chaos on the mic. He's calling people out, he's disrupting things. Like he would be a really fun, like with his mouthpiece, there's so much fun things you could do. So it would be, yeah, he'd be great.

SPEAKER_01 28:32

Yeah, I've loved, you know, having him in in my Fed and telling the stories that I've told so far. And I think he's one of the best, if not the best, wrestler in the world right now. Like his character work is insane, he's great in the ring as well. And I I wish he was in WWE so more people could, you know, see what he's doing, but he's fantastic.

SPEAKER_00 28:51

Yeah, he is. He's the real deal. I've all I've ever since I discovered him, I've been a fan ever since. I think I heard one snippet of him on the mic. I'm like, all right, what's this guy about? Like, he's that good. I mean, he'll he'll probably get you're gonna have obviously there's gonna be an argument to be had at the end of the day when it's all said and done in 20 years or whenever he retires. There will be arguments to be had. Is he the best to ever talk on the microphone or is he the best at that skill? And he'll be in that, he'll be on that Mount Rushmore at the end of the day.

SPEAKER_01 29:21

Yeah, for real. And the next one we have is specifically for you again, is Trick Williams. Would you book Twick Williams?

SPEAKER_00 29:32

Yeah, I think so. I I like Trick. I think he would be fun, especially, you know, given his athletic, you know, stance and everything like that. He'd be fun. I could see maybe him and you know, putting him in a tag team probably and and doing some fun, creative things like that. I think his, you know, he's kind of got that, you know, he's got the star power, he's got the look, he looks fantastic. So I mean, I think that, yeah, there there would be a lot of fun to be had with him too. I like that's ooh, I'd have to like look at the current roster on who you know hasn't been booked and things like that. And I don't know about AEW, it'd probably have to put AEW in there, but as far as WWE talents, he may be one of the ones that's probably closer on the you know, up the list for guys that I would want to see and want to to book somewhere.

SPEAKER_01 30:17

Yeah, and speaking of, you know, his buddy or in WWE his former buddy, Carmelo Hayes. Would you book Carmelo Hayes?

SPEAKER_00 30:26

Uh his he's probably a little bit lower on the list, but I still do like Carmelo Hayes a lot. I also really love his figure, his his newest elite. Now, I don't think we'll probably never get an ultimate of him, unfortunately. It'd be cool. I don't I just I don't know with the way, you know, ultimate consistency is kind of weird. It's either it's usually main event guys or guys that have at least been in the main event, barring a weird off-the-wall, you know, Cobrady Gooker or something, doing the clown, you know, randomness. But it's usually what, legends and then main event talent, mainly is who they do, right? It's either Hall of Famers or main event talent. And so we'll probably never see an ultimate of him, but he uh yeah, he'd be fun. I like his elites. I wish he had better head sculpts, but yeah, put some sunglasses on.

SPEAKER_01 31:09

We've only had like one head sculpt, so hopefully we get some new trick Williams figures.

SPEAKER_00 31:13

Yeah, I haven't yet. We've had two, right? Or three. I think we've had three, if I'm not mistaken. No, not different expressions. Are you sure? I'm positive. You're a hundred percent on that.

SPEAKER_01 31:24

100%.

SPEAKER_00 31:24

Let me Google it. We're Googling another one.

SPEAKER_01 31:27

You don't trust you don't trust me? Okay, I swear his basic had a different head or something. No, maybe slightly different paint taps, but it's the same head. You sure a hundred percent? Otherwise, I'd have it.

SPEAKER_00 31:43

You have the goofy, like wide open mouth.

SPEAKER_01 31:46

Wide open trick. Oh, well, no, uh I thought we were talking about Trick Williams. Oh, I was talking about Carmelo Hayes, I thought you said no. Carmelo Hayes has two head scans. Yeah, the laughing and the just a straight face.

SPEAKER_00 31:59

Yeah, I was referring to Carmelo Hayes. Trick Williams definitely only has one. Yeah, Trick Williams only has one. Yeah, okay. All right, now mystery solved. Mystery solved. This this like Carmelo Hayes one right here. This one looks like Ja Morant to me. That looks just like you. You may not know who they messed that one up. That looks just like John Morant. That's actually hilarious. Never noticed that before, but yeah, this figure right here. I love this figure. This right here is newest elite. Yeah, that one, dude. The him necklace. Wait till I get that he'll billy Jim figure, son. Wait till I get that he'll billy Jim. I'm putting Hill Billy Jim.

SPEAKER_01 32:34

Why?

SPEAKER_00 32:34

I'm putting the hem necklace on there, and he's gonna be he'll billy him, and that's it.

SPEAKER_01 32:38

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 32:39

I don't know if I don't know if he'll be in the Fed episode or something. I don't know, maybe maybe it'd be funny, but he'll billy him. It's coming.

SPEAKER_01 32:46

And the next one is someone we can both answer is Ricky Saints. Would you book Ricky Saints?

SPEAKER_00 32:53

I love Ricky Saints as a person. I don't know. I don't know if I I don't know. I I wouldn't have like a huge inclination to put him on the Fed or the show, but never say never. I could I don't know. My my brother might could find a spot for him on Vindication or something like that. I don't know. But he seems he doesn't seem like an MDT Live superstar, I guess you could say. He seems like a Vindication superstar to me, in my brain at least. What what are you thinking?

SPEAKER_01 33:20

Uh so I have no like real interest right now in booking Ricky Saints, but you know, who knows? You know, what I see from him in the future might, you know, sway me and change my mind. But currently, right now, uh not much interest for me.

SPEAKER_00 33:37

Yeah, it's isn't that weird how it goes and how I don't know. I how does that operate in your brain when you hear somebody's name? Is it just strictly popularity? Is it strictly what you think you can do? Is it do you have any creative ideas? And do you think WWE also operates this way? It's like they stroll in the office and they're like LA night, and they're like, uh like do you think WWE hit main offices go through this too? But I mean, I guess they're they're really, you know, and I mean, I know that you are also doing this too. Like you're you're trying to look at analytics and stuff, but where does analytics and things that matter for the bottom line line up with, you know, maybe what's best for the show? Like maybe a guy can't wrestle, but he's really popular, or you know, maybe some other factor comes into it. How's that role?

SPEAKER_01 34:23

Yeah, it's just like the character I'm not really interested in. He doesn't have like the the look of like a main event, I feel, and yeah, you know, his positioning and his popularity right now also doesn't help in in swaying me. But yeah, and it's also sometimes I'll book like guys because I see the potential, like I really believe in them. You know, Ricky Saints, you know, is yet to show me like something where I'm like, okay, I'm I'm really big on Ricky Saints and I have some ideas for him.

SPEAKER_00 34:59

Yeah, I could see that. I could see that. Well, who's the next on the list?

SPEAKER_01 35:05

The next on the list is Penta for you. Would you book Penta?

SPEAKER_00 35:09

Yeah, I would definitely book Pinta. I would like to do Pinta and Ray Phoenix probably. I'd probably I'd probably put them together as a team if I were going to do it. But yeah, Pinta, 100%. Yeah, Pinta would be a slam dunk. That's not even uh an option. I think he's yeah, you know, when I was talking about people up the list, he's probably he's probably number one on that list.

SPEAKER_01 35:31

Yeah, you could easily plug him in, I think, for sure.

SPEAKER_00 35:34

Yeah, he's he's an easy character, like he's super over. People get excited for him. Like it's uh yeah, just a layup. It's kind of like Jeff Hardy, right? It's like, yeah, I'm booking that guy.

SPEAKER_01 35:43

Yeah, yeah. And the next one is AW Superstar, Will Ospreay. Would you book Will Ospreay? I think I would be interesting.

SPEAKER_00 35:54

Yeah, I would say so. I would like to book Will Ospreay. I think he'd be fun. I think he, you know, he's really good at everything that he does, super high flying. You can do all kinds of fun things with him. I also think that he fits kind of the Fed style too, which I think really works, you know. And I think that, yeah, it's a slam, that's a slam dunk. Like, who's not who's not booking Will Ospreay in 2026? You gotta have Will Ospreay. That's no spoilers. Who knows where he could show up? But yeah, that's that's one whenever there's a sliver. I think, you know, I mean, I guess I guess, you know, once we get through the big show and whatever, and I would guess this would you'd have to fast forward six months. Maybe we do a draft or a rebrand or something and it completely revamps. Who knows? Like, I don't, I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 36:36

What if what if someone debuted at the big show?

SPEAKER_00 36:38

It could have it could happen. You never know. You never know.

SPEAKER_01 36:41

Yeah, and the next on the list is someone I know you're a big fan of. I don't believe he's in the Fed right now, but Wardlow. Are we booking Wardlow?

SPEAKER_00 36:52

Oh, dude, I I have I have fantasy booked Wardlow forever. Yeah, I love Wardlow. Um I whenever there is a chance, he's going in. Like that's that's definitely gonna happen. I but I'm I'm also just a big personal fan of him. So yeah, I think he'd be a lot of fun. I think there's a I think there's a way to book him in my brain that I think people would like and they'd follow and they would be interested in. So yeah, I'm I'm all aboard that. But I think it would come with a caveat. I think you'd have to um I I really want to get like a custom Ultimate Edition Wardlow. And I've I've tinkered with that for probably over a year now with different things you could do and formulas. It's just, you know, different priorities and things. But it's one of those, you know, I talk about there being a million tabs open. That's one of those tabs that's probably like you know, down there open somewhere that I haven't referenced in a long time. But yeah, that's something I want to do. I want to get a custom ultimate edition wardlow. I I mean you could probably get away with the AEW figure. If I can fed with Jungle Boy and Luchasaurus, I could probably fed with you know the AEW Wardlow. But I think, you know, I I'd I'd want to see an ultimate edition probably.

SPEAKER_01 37:58

Yeah. So yeah, as far as me with Wardlow, I feel like he needs to, you know, get released from his chains right now. He's not on the program. I don't know if he's injured, he's not injured, right?

SPEAKER_00 38:10

I don't think so. I think I think he was, and then he got healed. And yeah, I think I think he's just been kind of held hostage by his contract, I think. And I think he'd be a perfect fit for WWE NXT right now. I think he's like he's the perfect guy for that.

SPEAKER_01 38:25

Yeah, I think he's a wait and see for me. I think if he does go to WWE and I like what he's doing there, I think he could definitely be in the Fed in the future.

SPEAKER_00 38:34

But as far as the next what do you think about his like AEW stuff? How did you feel about his AEW run?

SPEAKER_01 38:40

Or what to be honest, I haven't seen like a ton of his stuff. I've seen him do the Swantons like off the ladder, which is insane for a big man like him. I've seen him, you know, doing his stuff with MJF and like he destroyed him there, but he was like TNT champion for a while, and then I think Samojo beat him. But yeah, other than that, I haven't seen a ton of promos from him or or like a lot of matches really. So yeah, I I don't have like a fully formed opinion on him right now, but I'm eager to see like if he does go to WWE what he's gonna do there.

SPEAKER_00 39:14

Yeah, I a hundred percent no see what you're saying for sure. I think that uh if anybody, if you're just bored or you're just on YouTube or something like that, just look up some like really old clips or some like younger, not necessarily like debut rookie style stuff necessarily, but if you look up like young Wardlow, some of the stuff that he would do is insane. Like some of the just the athletic feats, he's like he's a really good athlete and stuff. And I think he's got a real a lot of potential. It's just man, can we can we free this man? Can we can we put him somewhere? I also think he has the look too, which I think is yeah, you I think that's a huge part of Bruce. I think you also agree with me. I think that you have to have a a certain look that I don't know can propel you, and I think he I think he has that kind of aura, if you want to call it that. I think he's got that aura.

SPEAKER_01 40:04

So yeah. Is he decent on the mic too? Has he done a lot of promos?

SPEAKER_00 40:09

I haven't heard I I don't know if I've ever heard a promo where I'm like, holy shnikes, that guy is destined for greatness. But I also think he can speak like I think I think so. I think he can speak enough to where you know, but then again, it has it's been a minute, so I mean, I don't know what hopefully I just want to see him wrestle again, really. I don't really care where it'd be cool just to see him in the ring doing something, so yeah.

SPEAKER_01 40:32

And for you, Solo Sokoa and Jacob Fatto. Could they potentially do some bloodline stuff in MDT?

SPEAKER_00 40:40

Yeah, I think that's a hundred percent. Yeah, I would I wouldn't look past that at all. I think that, yeah, I'm always looking for I think you kind of if you look across both brands over the years, there's been like so many factions and like faction wars and different stables of characters and stuff. So I think they would kind of fit in there and that'd be fun. And you never you never know who what you know Samoan is lurking in the shadows, you know, or what who's laying in the in the wake of for the tribe there. So we'll see what comes to fruition there. But yeah, those guys 100%. Now, would I be super excited to book Solo Sokoa as much as Jacob Fatu? Probably not, probably not, but yeah, I I think that's definitely a possibility. And then we have so many, I mean, I don't know if they're on the list, but like you have so you got uh JC Mateo or or you know Cobb, you got you know Tala Tonga coming, you got Tamatonga, who we have booked, and uh I think I are you interested in all those guys? Well, Tama Tonga I currently have, and Tonga Loa was also gonna be on the show, but there back then there was no good customs you could really make. So maybe now they'd be something you could circle back to. So I don't know. That's an interesting one right there. Um, as far as Tala Tanga, probably not. I'm not really I'm not a big MFT guy. What about you? No, I'm not an MFT guy, I think not at least.

SPEAKER_01 41:58

It's one of the worst parts of SmackDown right now, is the MFTs.

SPEAKER_00 42:02

Yeah, man. Uh ooh, I mean they got rid of the white six, you never know.

SPEAKER_01 42:08

I mean, they already got rid of like two of the guys in the MFTs. There you go. So yeah, I hope that's not like the direction of bloodline versus MFTs. Like that's God, that would be like that's just rehashing an idea, you know.

SPEAKER_00 42:23

Well, well, the thing is, is like I know we're kind of getting off on a tangent a little bit, but one like solo Sokoa, what I never was really buying into the hype of solo Sokoa, really. When he came in, I was not a solo sequa guy, but as soon as Jacob Fatu came in, any like real main event credibility that Solo Sokoa had went right out the window, and it all went to Jacob Fatu, right? That's how I saw it, of course. And I feel like that's kind of what the audience has also caught on to, at least that's what it looks like to me. And not that Solo Sokoa is not doing his own good stuff, because I think he has done some good stuff since then, breaking away from the bloodline and stuff. Like there are some elements to his character I do like, like he's really funny and he's got this kind of natural, like you know, behind the scenes, you know that dude's hilarious. You could just tell that he's hilarious. But yeah, I think that being that real credible main event style talent, I don't know if I don't know if people see him that way anymore in the WWE sphere.

SPEAKER_01 43:21

Yeah, I like his NXT stuff. I don't know if you ever saw what he was doing in NXT before he came up and joined the bloodline. I really enjoyed what he was doing there. He was like a babyface as well. But I I just want to see him away from a faction. Like I'd like to see him do his own thing and not be with the MFTs. I think that'd be much more interesting for him.

SPEAKER_00 43:40

Yeah, yeah. You're probably you're probably onto something right there. I think that's probably best. But uh WWE, you know, they it's like they they love the bloodline, they love the history there. It's easy to tie characters in that way. So I guess that's how they see it. I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 43:56

Yeah. And as far as the next one, Logan Paul. How are we feeling about Logan Paul? Would you book him?

SPEAKER_00 44:02

I don't know. Like if you would ask me a few years ago, I'd probably say, absolutely not. There's no way in hell, but I don't know. I think there's there's just a lot of fun there, right? Like we both make YouTube content, or like he's a he's a YouTuber or former YouTuber. It just makes sense. You could do so many fun things there, right? Especially, you know, I don't know. We could, I don't know. My brain runs crazy with all the cool things you could actually do with that. So that element I really like. But as far as, you know, I I don't know. It it would have to, I'd have to write out something. I'd I guess never say never, but it's not something that I'm just headstrong on doing, I guess. But yeah, I think he's got his place in wrestling. He's, you know, all the you know hate that he gets is a lot of the times warranted, you know. But at the same time, as a fellow, you know, I guess entrepreneur slash content creator, whatever, it's like you also have to be like, I don't know, you you kind you see things through his lens and you can may kind of see it. Not the scams and the craziness and whatever, like that's all garbage, but you know, the there's some other elements to it where you can kind of understand where he's coming from.

SPEAKER_01 45:10

Yeah, I think he's got a lot of potential for the future, you know, if he sticks with wrestling. I think he he seems to be pretty like all in on it. I see him as like this next generation's like edge. Like I could see him as like that dirty heel, you know, maybe when the vision kind of separates, you know, he can be an adversary to like theory and breaker, and you have all that lore and stuff, you know, if they really capitalize on you know the vision and the storytelling within it. But I think you know, he has a good future.

SPEAKER_00 45:39

I'm actually shocked that he hasn't really they haven't like pulled that trigger anyway. Now, I don't think he's edge. All right, I want the record clear there. I don't think he's edge or anything like that. However, I think I mean you could really I'm actually shocked WWE has not leaned into that and really like made him money in the bank, have him cash in after. I mean, you would have gotten nuclear, you're talking nuclear heat, nuclear headlines, and things like that. But I'm kind I'm I'm thankful they haven't done it, but at the same time, I'm shocked they haven't.

SPEAKER_01 46:08

It might happen one day, you know? It could, it could, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 46:11

But I think I don't know, can you imagine if like Cody Rhodes beats Roman Reigns or something, and then you know, you have Logan Paul out there and win the tie? Like, can you imagine something like that? And that's something that WWE, I feel like they would like get a heart on for something like that, you know. That's just like, oh well, I guess Vince being out maybe, but that just sounds like something Vince would be like, Oh, such good shit, man, you know, and book that.

SPEAKER_01 46:36

Yeah, it'd be interesting to see how people feel about that. I think there are a lot of Logan Paul supporters, but there are also a lot of people who like are against him. So it'd be interesting. I think he, yeah, he definitely has potential. He's in my show already, he's been a multiversal champion so far, so we'll see what happens with him going forward. But yeah, it's good to know you you'd be open to it.

SPEAKER_00 46:58

Yeah, I'm I think I'm a lot more open to it than I probably used to be, I think. But yeah, I I don't know. I like the more you think like creatively, it it would be kind of a layup, I think, because there's so many layers there. But in terms of like personal want to, probably not. But the the creativity side of me would be like, hell yeah, let's do it.

SPEAKER_01 47:19

Yeah. And the next one, Dobby Allen.

SPEAKER_00 47:23

Would you book Dobby Allen? 100%, 100%. That's a lock. That's not even uh I've wanted to fed with that figure. I mean, I pose it around all the time. I want to actually, you know, fed it around, get it involved with other figures outside of just standard photography. Yeah, for sure. That's a slam dunk. Yes.

SPEAKER_01 47:41

Yeah, I'd like to use Dobby Allen more. I remember the last WrestleMania. I had him skateboard down the long ramp, and I think he like dived into the ring onto somebody. Like you can do so much cool stuff with him. And yeah, I'd like to use him more in some capacity, but there's you know, there's so many wrestlers that you gotta juggle and you know pick who you're gonna, you know, use. But next up, Gunther. How do we feel about Gunther? Would you book Gunther?

SPEAKER_00 48:08

Uh he's he's one that I just don't think would fit. I don't think he would fit in here. Now, if he did, he would probably be more of a vindication star. I don't see him on MDT Live, but yeah, I'm I'm just not sure. Like, I like Gunther as a character. I think that he's great at what he does. I like him personally. I think he can be a bit boring in terms of like certain in the way people perceive him as boring or they don't like his style. I can 100% see that. But you go back to Bron Breaker, you relate it to the Bryan Danielsons, the shamuses of the world, those guys that are really intense and they want they they make wrestling feel real and they have that level of of grit. And I don't know, there's something though about the way that he does things that I love, but as far as translating that into figures and putting him on the show, I don't know. I don't I don't know how I would how I would see that fitting in at least creatively. But in terms of the personal superstar, yeah, I'm all aboard Gunther.

SPEAKER_01 49:09

Yeah, and speaking of Daniel Bryan, would you book Daniel Bryan?

SPEAKER_00 49:13

Uh yeah, I think maybe, maybe it kind of falls in that same exact kind of category with with Gunther for me. I it's not a huge priority or something that, you know, I hear the name and my ears perk up, I guess you could say, is how I see it. And I guess that's kind of how I see some of these other things. You know, you hear the name, and it's like, okay, it's like you have this spidey sense, I guess. And the spidey sense doesn't necessarily go off for Daniel Bryan or Brian Danielson, but I guess never say never. You know, you never know what could come down the line, but yeah, it's not a huge uh priority, I guess.

SPEAKER_01 49:47

Yeah, it's interesting. I think like if I was booking the Fed in 2014 or something, like I'd definitely be booking Daniel Bryan for sure.

SPEAKER_02 49:54

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 49:55

But yeah, he's very technical in you know the way he wrestles and stuff. So, you know, trying to put together those matches, you know, doesn't interest me as much. But I love Daniel Bryan. I think he's great.

SPEAKER_00 50:06

Yeah, 100%. Yeah, uh the wrestler, yeah, a thousand percent as far as like figure. And he really like, does he have that? Does he have any great figures? Really? Does he have any fantastic figures that you just pick up and are over the moon about? I mean, he had a couple AEW ones that were pretty solid.

SPEAKER_01 50:23

Um, I think some of his WWE ones are great. You just have to update the to double joint at arms. I I don't like the torso, I don't like the torso for him.

SPEAKER_00 50:32

Yeah, I don't like Daniel Bryan torso. I don't like it, man. I don't like it.

SPEAKER_01 50:36

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_00 50:37

It's too small, man. They they make him look like a I don't know. They he he looks way too skinny. Like, yeah, I don't know. They could do better with that, but I think if you if you update him into an ultimate or maybe give him the Terry Funk torso or something like that, there's probably you could probably make a really damn good looking ultimate Daniel Bryan in the modern day.

SPEAKER_01 50:57

Yeah, Terry Funk Torso is a good shout. Yeah, I think that's good. The you know, you just mentioned him, Seamus. Would you have a book, Seamus? I actually have Seamus as a part of the Wyatt Cult.

SPEAKER_00 51:10

Oh, you do? Yes, yes, yeah. He's yeah, he's a part of the Wyatt Cult right now. So yeah, he's brainwashed, man. He is brainwashed, he's a brainwash, he's been like brainwashed for like a decade, I think. But he's yeah, he's he's in there, and I like that like pissed off elite that we got. Like, this looks so good to me. I love the way this looks. Oh, look at this. Okay, it just fit like that. He he was made to be a cult member.

SPEAKER_01 51:34

Well, when did he debut on the cult? Because did you originally have that hair, or did you just update it? Because he had the Mohawk, like at the time he started the Fed.

SPEAKER_00 51:42

Yeah, he had them. I think it was the Elite 58, is the one that I used. So yeah, this figure's so damn good, though. Is this Elite is this the top picks or Elite 97, maybe? Oh, I don't know, but yeah, it is a great figure. Damn, it's freaking perfect, it's literally perfect, looks just like him, moves well, perfect formula. Yeah, hell yeah. Now, now am I gonna have an ultimate shamus underneath this underneath this Colt uniform? Is that what we're doing? And Rowan, something Dominic Mysteria.

SPEAKER_01 52:14

Would you book Dominic Mysterio?

SPEAKER_00 52:17

Yeah, probably not. Probably not. I I don't know. I don't know. May I don't know, like he could have like these maybe him and Logan Paul come in as a tag team and just be like the slimiest pieces of shish. I don't know, but nah, probably not.

SPEAKER_01 52:33

Yeah, a lot of people are high on on Dominic.

SPEAKER_00 52:36

But uh people people love Dominic. I love I love Dominic the guy, I think he's funny. He's come like I used to despise him in terms of like I'm like get this Nepo hire out of here, but then I kind of fell in love with like what he was doing. Like I really liked the stuff he was doing, and I don't think he's really a great wrestler or anything like that, but it's fun to watch him get beat up, it's fun to watch him you know do certain things. So that that meets it, and that's probably what would make him fun is the funny things you could do with the creative things you can do, but it's terms of writing fulfilling stories and stuff. I don't know. I I just I'm I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 53:14

Yeah, I think he's a great character. I just I think he needs to bulk up, man. Like, holy, it's been years, dude. What's going on in the gym? He's gonna do something. He's he's definitely just get the arms a little bit bigger to just be a little more believable, man.

SPEAKER_00 53:30

Yeah, not happening. Damn. Uh the rock. Would you book the rock? Yeah, I think it'd be fun. Any legend character like that, I think, is on the table. I'd never say never it'd be fun to book any legend like that, especially when you have like you know, Roman Reigns, the bloodline, all that different stuff. You never know what could come about, you know, moving forward. So, yeah, he'd be he'd be fun. Like any over-the-top character like that would just be a lot of fun.

SPEAKER_01 53:59

Yeah. And one last one here. Let's go Damien Priest. How are we feeling about Damien Priest?

SPEAKER_00 54:07

Fantastic figure catalog. So there's that. The ultimate the ultimate is unbelievable. His elites are unbelievable. Maybe not the most recent one, maybe made him a little small, but in terms of the ultimate and stuff, yeah. I could I'd probably book him in like some sort of faction or something. I honestly, he might would fit perfectly in the white cult. Kind of seems like a perfect fit, kind of. I don't know. Maybe that would be something, but yeah, I I'd say never say never on him. I I'm not completely against that idea.

SPEAKER_01 54:35

Yeah, I think he's got a great moveset. You know, he's in the judgment day in my show. But yeah, yeah, I think you know, he could definitely be kind of versatile in the Fed for sure. But yeah, out of all those names I listed, give me like top three of those like that you would be most interested in booking.

SPEAKER_00 54:57

Darby Allen for sure. Yeah, I'm trying to think of who can you list them one more time so I can make sure and I'll try to write them down.

SPEAKER_01 55:04

So we have well, actually, there's one more name that I wanted to mention. Okay, Javon Evans. Would you book Javon Evans?

SPEAKER_00 55:12

Yeah, I'd love to book Javon Evans, he'd be fun. I think there's a lot there. My ears perk up when I hear Javon Evans, so that would be fun, yeah, 100%.

SPEAKER_01 55:21

Yeah, I I could definitely see Javon Evans bouncing his way into WSC. Uh, yeah, there's a lot of stuff you can do with him. I think he's got a bright future. You know, unfortunately, the figure that I have of him, like his ankles like super loose, and I think the torso might be a little loose as well. So that's unfortunate.

SPEAKER_00 55:38

I think mine like does a damn swing. Like I can hold the head and do this, and he just goes like a pendulum.

SPEAKER_01 55:44

Yeah, that's terrible, man. That sucks.

SPEAKER_00 55:47

But yeah, that's a Kofi Kingston elite uh issue. I think I think that happens a lot on Kofi Kingston torsos, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 55:55

Damn, yeah, but yeah, Javon Evans, definitely uh good pick. So list of names, and you're gonna narrow it down to three. Maybe let's go four because you got that Derby Allen pretty locked down. So Javon Evans, Ricky Saints, Kyle Fletcher, Swerve Strickland, Wardlow, Braun Breaker, MJF, Trick Williams, Carmelo Hayes, Penta, Will Ospreay, Solo Sokoa, Jacob Fartu, Logan Paul, Seamus, Gunther, Dominic Mysterio, Daniel Bryan, Damian Priest, and The Rock. Out of all those, give me four names that you would be most interested to book. All right.

SPEAKER_00 56:36

In no order, I got Darby Allen and Oba Femi.

SPEAKER_01 56:40

I forgot to mention.

SPEAKER_00 56:42

I have Darby Allen. Yeah. That's a yeah, we've covered that. I just think the figures are so nice. I really would like to see what they're about. And I just think he kind of fits seamlessly. I don't have any issues where I'm like, uh, can I fit him? All these characters, I feel like I could fit on the show, and nobody would blink an eye. It wouldn't be this big thing. And I think it could fit. So Darby Allen's up there. You got Pinta, another layup that just fits seamlessly, in my opinion. I think he's great. Swerve Strickland, same thing. Fantastic, fantastic figure, and you know, the the style. And then lastly would be Wardlow. I really I just have always loved Wardlow. I think he'd be fun to to book and see what we can come up with there. So that would be my four right there. Are there are there a top four superstars that you would like to bring in out of that list? Or is there anybody that you can think of off the top of the dome? Maybe this could be our Mount Rushmore. So that's Mount Rushmore of talents there. Do you have well?

SPEAKER_01 57:40

A bunch of the list was just people that you haven't booked. Correct. I would give you, I mean, I already mentioned it, like Javon Evans, Oba Femian, Swerve, Strickland. Out of those people are the ones I'd be most interested in in having in the Fed. But comment down below. Anybody like that we didn't mention that you might want to see in WSC or MDT, let us know down in the comments.

SPEAKER_00 58:03

Do you have one that you could think of right off rib that you haven't booked before that's always been the back of your mind to do? You just haven't, you haven't gotten around to it. Maybe things fall through. Anybody that you know you think of in the history of wrestling, or maybe they don't even have a figure potentially, or anything like that. Maybe not necessarily a multiversal character, but a wrestler that you've thought about booking but just haven't.

SPEAKER_01 58:27

Not really. I mean, there's a lot of wrestlers that I've booked to come in and do one or two matches and haven't really had a chance to tell a story or just like chose not to. But you know, someone like Kenny Omega, I'd like to use more. I just think it's like right timing when to do it. But yeah, a young box as well, you know, I'd like to use them a little more as well. So yeah, it's all timing and you know, whether they fit in, you know, the stories you're trying to tell, you know, how long these, you know, stories and matches, you know, take to come to fruition. You gotta kind of, you know, pick wisely because you know, you only get so many opportunities to make stuff throughout the year. So yeah, it's hard to get everybody that you want in.

SPEAKER_00 59:13

That's a good point. That's a good point. It's crazy. I'm just when you were talking, I'm thinking about like things that have like you, I don't know, there's things that I've worked on, or things like projects that you've worked on behind the scenes that you know maybe never made it, or you know, they've been done for a while and just you couldn't reveal them, or you didn't want to reveal them because you didn't want to like do spoilers, and like there's just so many layers to this that people don't understand, I don't think. Like, unless you're really in it and like doing it, it's just so much that goes on and the elements of it, which I know we've broken down pretty in detail about you know different things. There's the episode where we tell you pretty much how to do a Fed in 2026, but I don't know, it's just crazy. This is uh it's like one of one, there's nothing like it. But the only thing I can really relate it to would be somebody doing maybe like Nightmare Before Christmas, like when they were creating that, or you know, these claymation style films and stuff like that. That's like the only thing I can really relate it to, like these high budget, you know, movies with like fully sculpted out scenes and like even the set pieces, everything's custom made, or you know, just different things like that. I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:29

Yeah, but it's like those might be, I mean, they got whole teams like we're a one-man show and stuff, but like it's like an ongoing thing, like finish one project, you're on to the next sort of thing. But is there anybody that you know you were going to debut or anything that you just decided not to, or anybody that you regret having in the Fed?

SPEAKER_00 1:00:50

Um, I'm trying to think. I know that there are some talents here that I have not necessarily I'm trying to think, like maybe I used them once or twice and now they're not on the roster shelf anymore. I'm pretty sure there's a couple here. Regret, I don't know. I mean, I I have booked wrestlers before that I wasn't the biggest fan of necessarily, but I kind of I wanted to see the reaction, you know. I wanted to kind of see how they performed, etc. Um, I don't know if there's necessarily a regret, but I don't know, maybe I don't know. I I don't necessarily think I have a regret necessarily, but in terms of, I guess, booking somebody that I wasn't the biggest fan of, um, I did that with Velveteen Dream. Um, I wasn't I wasn't ever like his huge Velveteen Dream guy, but I was doing the rumble and I was like, oh, it'd be fun to kind of bring him in here. And you know, we did the like torso swap, and then at Hell's Gate, he had like the bloodline gear on, which was fun and cool, you know, he's kind of dressing up like his opponent. So that that element I thought was really fun. And so I was like, Yeah, let's see what he can do. And his his moveset was pretty cool and everything like that. His figures were pretty good, except the gigantic Ultimate Warrior torso. But that'd probably be where I would answer that question, maybe. What about you?

SPEAKER_01 1:02:05

Uh, I don't think there's anybody I regret. I've brought in a lot of people, like I said before, that have just like appeared once or twice. Yeah, uh, but yeah, not really. You know, Velveteen Dream, you know, he had a lot of hype at the time, so I don't like fault you for you know bringing him in because even John Cena was touting him as like the future of the business, and then you know, stuff happens, and uh like yeah, and that's not one of those where I'm like, Oh, I regret doing that, but it's more of just a I don't know, it was I mean, I had him in in for like one match as well, so yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:38

You like I don't know, I was like kind of just seeing what he like you have a rumble, there's 30 spots, have some fun with them, have some surprises. I don't remember I feel like that figure may have just come out not too long before that, and so you know, his first Elite, what was it Elite season seven? Yeah, he said that this exact same time. Um I want to say that that um that figure had come out not too far after that or something like that, and so it was just like, yeah, let's do this and see what happens. So yeah, that was uh it was cool, and it's whatever, but the uh as far as regrets, not really. I don't think I have any regrets on you know who who we've you know picked the Fed with. I don't think maybe besides like Eric Rowan with his god awful figure. No, I'm kidding. Yeah, it's like maybe Bronx Roman's terrible elite figures.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:30

Yeah, yeah. But uh, so all all the people in your comment section saying like, oh, you need to reboot the Fed and stuff. You've already listed like you're not super like half these guys, you're not really that interested in booking, so you probably don't need to like revamp it or reboot it or anything. What do you think about that?

SPEAKER_00 1:03:51

I mean, it's just a really interesting, you know, it's an interesting dynamic, right? So I don't think there's not a lot of times in life where this situation necessarily would play out. So I mean, you you might as well finish the stories that you have, ride that out. Once that's complete, then you kind of then you can kind of readdress that. You can go back to that and say, okay, now that everything's kind of cleared, if I were a fresh start right now, what can I do? And maybe there'll be a little bit of planning, you know, that preset presets that a little bit. So we'll have an idea. But yeah, it'll be interesting to kind of you know change and rearrange, but we'll probably do some sort of, I guess, refreshed draft is what I would imagine. That just seems like the coolest thing to do, like come out and do a draft, maybe one of those first episodes back after or something like that. I think that would probably be the way to go, but of course that'll be something we address. But yeah, I mean, I understand where people are coming from, but at least the the presentation of everything will be modern day. It'll just be with slightly older versions of characters, at least for the time being. And some of them won't be outdated at all. Some of them will be, you know, kind of just pick up right where you left off, some of them plug right in. So that'll be interesting.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:06

Yeah, yeah. And you were mentioning like your brother books Vindication. Does that like excite you when he books the stuff and you have to film it? Are you as attached to those kind of plans?

SPEAKER_00 1:05:20

Uh well, I mean, like everything at the end of the day, you know, he could book something and then me say no, like I'll do that. There's been things I'm sure that he I'd have to go back and look at. I don't remember anything off-rail, but there's been things that he's booked that I'm like, eh, we ain't doing that, or let's not do that. Or so you have triple H at the end of the day.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:37

Yeah, 100%. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:39

But I don't think he's ever booked something where I'm like, God, this is a drag. You know, I I think you probably like you've probably filmed something where you're like, damn, I'm really not that excited about doing this. But at the same time, you have fun while filming, even though it is super challenging, you have fun at the same time. Like it's very fun and rewarding, but at the same time, you can be annoyed by it too. You know, not everything's just you.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:00

know black and white there's some gray area so yeah yeah for real yeah it's interesting like I've you know had some friends I guess like just Danny pretty much like kicking ideas around and helping you know with creative and things it'd be interesting like you know if you were equal partners in a show and you both had like the same investment like what would that process look like of booking a show with somebody else yeah that would be like how how would you come to like if there wasn't a lead of like okay I have final say like how would you come to a decision? Yeah I don't know that would have to be something that you I guess worked out in some other way but yeah I I mean we've we've debated stuff like that's been a thing but at the end of the day I mean I guess he understands like you know I mean at the end of the day that's your show that's your thing but you know he's argued for certain things before and you know you go back and forth on that and whatever but I don't I don't think I mean anybody could let me know like is there anything that vindication is booked where you're just like God that's terrible why would he book that like if that's happened or if anybody remembers anything like that you can let me know but yeah I think for the most part it's been it's been decent I don't think nobody bats a thousand as they say but you know yeah yeah so you're you're almost finished you know filming the Fed episode let's say like you continue this filming process and you go on to the next episode would you like do you think it's possible to get another episode out and then work on my damn nation and maybe get it early next year or end of the year?

SPEAKER_00 1:07:42

How how long do you think things will take now that you have a better understanding that's so tough because I feel what's going to be sucky is like okay you have these normal shows but while I'm in the middle of filming these normal shows I'm gonna have to have some sort of process for fixing the crowd or you know upgrading the arena in some way. So that's gonna have to come into effect and then I'm gonna want to custom stay these are all things that'll have to be planned out. So I guess depending on how all that goes if everything goes great I would love to have that show out before you know 2027 or what have you but I don't want to say oh it's 100% going to happen whatever. But yeah I I you would think okay logically don't wouldn't you think that paper pay-per-views will take longer to come out than a traditional show because there's more emphasis on the wrestling there's more emphasis on you know gears and you know different you know things like that so yeah I mean hell yeah like we're what six and a half months we're almost at the halfway point depending on how different filming things go and if you can figure out a optimal way of filming and things like that. Right now it's also summertime and so my kids are home and so it's uh it's a little bit more crazy right now for my schedule because you know family's home all the time you're running here running there there's you know the schedule's a lot more crazy so I I I wouldn't completely write it off but I guess it'll just depend on how things go. I think that I am I think by the time you get there though like you're actually starting the filming process for that because you got to warm up with two or three episodes I think that'll go a lot smoother because by that time you're gonna have your process will be way more optimized you'll have you'll have a better idea of sound effects you'll have a better idea of how to film things you'll have a better idea of the the flow and just these different things that go into it so would you think wouldn't you think that you know the more episodes you get the better you get at that process you would the the wait time should be should be better depend I mean obviously that depends on the criteria the context but you see what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:57

Mm-hmm. Yeah I mean yeah you probably shouldn't treat it too much different than you know the episodes you're doing now I mean obviously you know you feel my damn nation you gotta like really ramp up the matches and stuff but it's it's just filming you know you obviously got to think of the the good ideas and make like a good match and whatever but yeah if you just get into that grind of filming and you stay in that process yeah I think you can definitely get it out by the end of the year or at least make a start on it. But yeah I I would suggest like three to four months at least get everything organized for the My Damn Nation arena.

SPEAKER_00 1:10:37

Yeah I think so too and that's why I mean people may or may not know this this has been a even over the last five years there have been things done for the Fed even though the Fed was not actively on YouTube or being shown there were things behind the scenes like I have I have things for that show that are done that I that I did a year ago or six months ago or whatever that I just knocked out for the shish of it. You've seen some of it you've seen some of it I have seen some of it yeah so it's like and these are the things you have to do so you know it's like oh well I if I can't if I can't actively film right now I could do something else. So I don't know if you do that too. Maybe even if you're on your phone waiting at the doctor's office or whatever you can you know you're not I hate to say you're not you're you're like brain's always going so you you know you try to knock out these tabs I guess as I was referring to earlier you have all these tabs open and so when you have a moment you know you can knock out something you don't always have to be necessarily actively filming to be working on it. You could be doing a graphic you could be doing you know ordering the ropes or looking into what you're gonna do for the arena or whatever the case is and that's unfortunately that's how it is because you don't have a team if you had a team of people then maybe they could work on some of that stuff but it's all you you're a one man show so you have to you're constantly thinking of different things that you need or have to do because if you don't you won't have them in time or you just won't have that you know you're not gonna have that aspect of the show.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:12

Yeah there's a million things like that go on in the background that you need to organize like customs and things for the arena and things like that. And unfortunately like sometimes it doesn't work out and things come late and things like that.

SPEAKER_00 1:12:25

So yeah there's definitely a lot of things that you need to make sure you organize in advance yeah 100% and that's yeah that's what it is but yeah 100% man I'm I think once the I mean the the ball's been rolling so that's good. Like it's just it's actually crazy actually when you actually think about it it's actually crazy.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:48

So but yeah that's all the superstars that we would book in the Fed and our opinions on them. Do you have anything else you want to cover in this episode?

SPEAKER_00 1:12:58

I don't think so is there is there anything that you would like to add or any questions we didn't got any fan mail or anything like that on the last guys if you don't know this if you comment below if you're on if you're just listening on iTunes or Spotify you can go over to the YouTube channel and leave a comment on the video itself and we will try our best to answer that question. So if you guys didn't know that you can go you know comment those questions. Whether we sometimes we'll just reply immediately and then sometimes we'll answer them on the next show. So that's something you can do if you're wondering about anything if you have a question if there's you know speculation or something like that you can always ask down below and we'll be happy to answer them. But that's all I got is that it for you yeah that's it for me yeah definitely leave us some questions down below we'd love to answer them in the next episode but I think that about wraps up the 10th episode let's go 10 episodes fully down man that's actually crazy it actually like 10 10's a a good amount especially if you look back at WrestleMania that's kind of crazy was that our second or third episode was that our third episode was WrestleMania I think it was our third yep man that seems like yesterday but it also kind of feels like forever ago kind of yeah like that's a long time so yeah for sure kind of repeat 10 weeks 10 weeks Jesus what's 10 weeks from now what's 10 weeks from now like end of August or beginning of September yeah I I'm not good at math. I didn't do it. That's gonna pretty much wrap it up man thank you guys so very much for watching I hope you guys have a blessed one leave us anything you got down in the comment section but that is it for my damn creators episode 10 we appreciate you and we'll see you guys next time