Grim on GTS Wrestling, WWE Figure YouTube & Controversy!

Get ready for one of the most anticipated episodes to date! In this lively and nostalgic installment of My Damn Creators, hosts MDT and WSC are joined by the legendary Grim of Grim's Toy Show! Dive deep into Grim's groundbreaking journey through wrestling action figure content creation, his transition from figure-based parodies to running his own real-life wrestling promotion, and the behind-the-scenes stories that helped shape a generation of collectors and creators.

Listeners will enjoy candid conversations about the inspiration behind iconic GTS characters, the highs and lows of internet backlash and parental complaints, and the unfiltered evolution of a YouTube pioneer. Grim shares hilarious and jaw-dropping stories about filming in public places, meeting famous wrestlers who followed his work, and the wild, unscripted energy that makes GTS Wrestling stand out.

The episode explores the shifting landscape of wrestling figure collecting, changes in YouTube monetization and content strategy, and the personal grind and creative philosophy behind Grimm’s continued influence. Whether you’re a longtime GTS fan, a content creator, or just love wrestling and toys, this episode offers humor, inspiration, and an honest look at what it takes to turn play into an online phenomenon!

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Transcript

SPEAKER_02 0:00

What is good, everybody? Welcome into My Name Creators episode number 11. Very exciting episode today. I am MDT, have WSC as always. And today we may have, I think so far, maybe our most legendary guest of all time here on the show, which we're very excited about. We have none other than the Grimms Toy Show, man. How are we doing?

SPEAKER_01 0:21

What's up, man? Thanks for having me. I uh excited to be here. Um, haven't done this kind of stuff in a long time, so this should be fun. Let's do it.

SPEAKER_03 0:30

Yeah, yeah. We are so happy to have you on here. You are like a childhood hero of mine. Like I grew up watching all your stuff. Uh yeah, yeah. It's awesome. We actually both met you at uh WrestleMania 39, which was awesome to see you uh just like as advertised on your YouTube. Like you are you have that energy, you keep that that aura around you. But yeah, yeah, yeah. You definitely inspired like a lot of us, you know, in the figure space. And yeah, we're gonna get into all that interesting stuff here. And yeah, like GTS wrestling, you know, it's a real wrestling promotion now, and you did the figure stuff too, which not a lot of interviewers have ever asked you about, you know, the figure stuff, which we're interested in hearing about today. So, what was the inspiration of like the GTS wrestling figure show?

SPEAKER_01 1:22

Um, well, geez, it was it was one of those things where you know that's stuff that I've always done. I always would sit with my ring and play with my wrestlers for as long as I could remember. And and the thing was, I had my brother and my sister to entertain, you know. And then, you know, as I got older, it got a little like, oh yeah, now we're playing with toys. But like I would do stuff to entertain my friends, you know. And it was like when I started making my videos, I was always I felt like I'm just making these for my friends to laugh at because I didn't know who was ever gonna see them, you know. Like I didn't have a following or anything. So I just made these videos. Uh, here's some funny clips with my figures that I made. This is my parody of what I think's gonna happen at the Royal Rumble. And and they laugh at it, they're like, Oh my god, this is funny! Like, oh, there's they're cursing, they're saying bad words, and they're they're trying to have sex with each other. Like, this is crazy. Like, what kind of psycho plays with their toys like this? You know, that's where a lot of it came from. So uh the inspiration was just to make my friends laugh, honestly.

SPEAKER_03 2:24

Yeah, I mean, I had to listen to that like with the audio all the way turned down so my parents wouldn't hear. I grew up with with three older brothers, so I was exposed to you know, swearing and all that. So I enjoyed it, but like I didn't want my parents to hear all that, you know.

SPEAKER_01 2:38

When I when I made those episodes, right? Like, and yeah, because they're they're filthy. And my god, you go back and watch some of them, I'm like, oh my god, I can't even believe I put this on the internet. But but honest to God, like my my thought process was these aren't for children, you know. These are for I was a grown-ass man making these for my friends who are other grown-ass men. Okay. Not thinking that, well, there's children out there watching them. And then, like, okay, yeah, maybe a kid sees it, he's hiding under his, you know, with his fucking earbuds in, hiding under his blanket, you know, and I like I used to do that when I was a kid. I used to hide and watch HBO at night and watch the cursed movies and the booby movies, you know, and think I was getting away with something. And you know, innocent enough. It was never horrid, horrid my stuff, but it was, yeah, stuff that kids shouldn't have been watching. And I was horrified when I found out, oh god, kids are watching this.

SPEAKER_03 3:33

Did you ever get any like parent backlash for any of them?

SPEAKER_02 3:37

I was gonna say, you probably you probably got emails or something, or people calling your house would still there was there was I had a father show up at my house.

SPEAKER_01 3:45

Oh my god. And these were like stories that like I never made of a YouTube video because I was like, Oh, I don't want anybody knowing that. But yeah, like yeah, like a dad showed up at my house, you know, and was like, uh, you know, my kids are watching this shit, you're saying this, that, and the other thing. And and I'm like, bro, take your phones away. I, you know, I can't. Like, like, why am I in trouble? Why are you at my house?

SPEAKER_02 4:09

Yeah, that's always been like the age-old question, right? You know, as all three of us make our own content or have, you know, for a while now, and that's always been uh I remember I can't remember what I said. Obviously, I wasn't out here GTS wrestling it, but like I, you know, you get these comments that are like, Oh, you shouldn't, you shouldn't do that, you know, kids watch you, what have you. But at the end of the day, man, that's that's on the parents at the end of the day, right?

SPEAKER_01 4:35

Yeah, no, 100%. And like I said, dude, I wasn't making my content thinking of oh, kids are gonna watch this or whatever. It was I was making them about elite action figures, which you know, the WWE elites will say, Oh, you were making toy videos. No, they're elites. They say they're adult collectibles on them. It's not like, you know, so so that was my first thought. And like I said, then I'm making the edgy, filthy, you know, dirty, dirty language and and uh, you know, risky sexual storylines and stuff with action figures, thinking, you know, kids aren't gonna watch this. It's like an adult swim or like a South Park type South Park, yeah. Right. Now that that was where my brain was at. And then, yeah, of course, you know, kids are gonna see South Park here and there, but it's not intended for that, you know.

SPEAKER_03 5:20

Yeah, speak about some of the iconic characters because I feel like even if you're not like an action figure fan, in the IWC, I bet like a lot of people have seen what you've done in those characters. Some of my favorites, like cocaine, book laser.

SPEAKER_01 5:34

I mean, I mean like uh GCW wrestling, or no, JCW wrestling, the the juggle's they literally took the cocaine action figure and made it real life into their own character, which I thought was funny. Um, yeah, yeah. A lot of this stuff has has stuck, you know, throughout over the years. Um uh the the ziggle wiggle stuff, like Dolph Ziggler is like he's like, Yeah, dude, he's like the ziggle wiggle thing became like a thing because of me doing it on the videos, enough people telling him about it and whatever. That that's like literally what he started calling it because of that. And I was like, Oh, that's wild.

SPEAKER_03 6:14

Yeah, it's crazy that had so much reach that it reached the wrestlers.

SPEAKER_01 6:18

Yeah, dude, you know, that's the the fucking one of the craziest things. It was not too long ago, one of my wrestlers that wrestles for me comes up to me and says, Yo, Alicia Fox knew who I was. And I said, Really? He's like, I went to go introduce myself. And she goes, Oh, you wrestle on Grimms, and and I and I'm like, Well, wait, you know that? She goes, I love Grim, I watch it all the time. And and and he was like, I was so shocked, I was like, Oh, I didn't think anybody like you would watch our stuff. And she goes, You watch us, we watch you. And I thought that was really cool. And like, so so now, like um Brian, uh Brian Myers, obviously, like, like he was telling me back in the day, like, oh, you know, this one watches me, that one watches me. I don't want to throw them under the bus. Uh but like, you know, tell me, you know, what guys watch my shit, this, that, and the other thing. Um, people, you know, wrestlers that I've met, like I walked up to Drew McIntyre and he knew who I was and says that he watches my videos. And I was like, yo, like he like knew that my brother did the claymore as like one of his moves. Wow. Like he's like, I like that your brother's doing the claymore. I was like, Oh, you fucking you've been watching. He's like, Yeah, dude, what do you think I do on an airplane? I was like, how cool is that?

SPEAKER_02 7:32

You know, I mean you've had you've had some massive reach, man. I mean, you talk about, like he said, those iconic characters, you've had these crazy defining moments, things that just kind of sent ripples, especially. I mean, you've been around for a very long time, right? So, and I think, you know, obviously social media has changed. I feel like everybody has a channel now. There's, you know, it's a different landscape, obviously, than it used to be. But, you know, a lot of those moments were were huge and they had that massive ripple effect, and you have this, you had this massive impact on not just wrestling figures, but it expanded beyond that. And that's something that me and Nate definitely wanted to talk about. You know, what what kind of transitioned you from, okay, I'm the figure guy or wrestling figures to okay, now I want to have my own backyard ring. I want to get in the ring, I want to do this for real, I want to have my own stories, etc. How did that shift kind of take place? And what like where was your mind at? You know, maybe what was your I don't know, what was your family thinking at the time? Was it you know, what were all these things?

SPEAKER_01 8:28

So, yeah, so you know, uh uh everything I did in especially in the beginning was action figure centered because that was my thing, Grimm's Toy Show, action figures, it was all wrestling figure centered. And then, you know, as I would do skits with like Heel Life or whatever, or or like a fight scene with some friends, like you know, they were the scalpers or whatever, like those human interaction videos always got way more views than just an action figure video or an action figure toy hunt involving the the real life people into these skits that I would do, you know, and it just kind of evolved to where, like, yeah, when I do these human skits, they like they get a lot more views, and and I just felt that the action figure window, like I mean, think about it, wrestling in general is a small niche, right? Yeah, and and and it's like who the only people watching my videos are wrestling fans, and then action figure collecting is a small niche of a small niche, so it's like there's a ceiling to it, you're only gonna grow to the people that collect action figures who are gonna watch these videos. So I was like, Well, you know, I can actually get into more of the niche if I did more things, you know. Yeah, obviously, it becomes real hard. So it was almost I kind of fell out of going so hard into the figures because I was focusing more on the real people, you know. Um, and then yeah, that's what's saying where like the action figures aren't even a center of my show as much anymore, like they still are, but not nearly as much.

SPEAKER_03 10:02

Yeah, yeah, I loved I loved when you feuded like with people over the figures and stuff, and you know, the drama with heel wife with the figures, but like Grime and Travone and the Ninja Twins, all the stuff with the figures. That was great stuff.

SPEAKER_01 10:16

I loved that. Hell yeah, thank you. Yeah, um, and and like I said, a lot of that was you know, uh just born out of every every Friday. I tried to have like a uh a skit of fighting someone, you know, where it was uh humans, and and people really started looking forward to those Friday 5 30 videos. And I thought that that was fucking cool. That like like there's like people out there, like a following that gives a shit enough about my videos that Friday at 5 30 they want to be on their phone for my video. And god forbid if I didn't have it up at 5 30, where's the fucking video, you fat bastard? I ran it all week for this shit, you fucking fat lazy prick. Where is the video?

SPEAKER_02 10:56

You know, that's actually that's something that we we've touched on before is you know, like not only just action figures, like action figures are pretty big if it's broad, you know, because you you can touch all different avenues, but when you get into wrestling action figures specifically too, it's a niche within a niche, like you talked about. We we've discussed this many times before on camera and off. Okay. And yeah, I mean, there's just there's kind of this glass ceiling that gets put on you because you know, not everybody is gonna, you know, give a damn about the figures like we do, you know, like we're passionate about the figures, whatever. But yeah, I think that you you hit the nail on the head and you really you know blew past that, involving them. And also you probably I I I imagine there's probably thousands of people that maybe weren't figure collectors, but your videos may have inspired them to become, you know, they they came for the wrestling, and then you link them to the figures through your stories or through your channel.

SPEAKER_01 11:53

So many people have told me over the years that their collection is my fault, and my my wife hates you because I'm always watching your vids and buying these figures because you got me into it, and yeah, dude. There, like I said, like I mean, that's ringside collectibles. You know, they embraced me. They were like, Okay, yeah, you're you're fucking crazy and say wild shit, but everybody fucking wants to buy these figures because they watch your videos, so they had to give me a fucking discount code, you know. It was like one of those, one of those things. Like, I was the first person to have a discount code with them. I know, like we all do now. Um, but like, yeah, because they were just like, yeah, people are always saying, you know, are you associated with this and whatever? They wanted to um collect uh, did you know like the Mattel stuff, like all those cars that they make on the for the Mattel, like the ambulance and the Camaro and the motorcycle? Like, I inspired all that shit because like I was talking to Bill from Mattel at Ringside Fest and telling him how much I loved the crash dummies. And he's like, I used to work on crash dummies. I'm like, why not WWE crash dummy stuff? He's like, Yeah. Wow, thank you for that. Yeah, thank you.

SPEAKER_02 13:04

You unlocked a memory I forgot ahead.

SPEAKER_01 13:05

I forgot all about those crash dummy things until you just like I said, so like, you know, my influence over the action figure community, like I can't say, but I mean, there's been a lot of figure decos that have also been my idea. I said, you know, make that one, you know. And um, you know, uh and like I said, so I've been actually very influential in it just by starting by making the figures, you know. And a lot of times people would people that were making a toy or or say, Hey, you know, I really want to sell my toy. Can you not shit on it?

unknown 13:37

You know, like something like that.

SPEAKER_01 13:39

You know, like and I'm like, listen, let me get you those sympathy, you know. Uh the wrestlers messaging me after seeing, yo, um, like Fandango's like, I got like a DM, like, why'd you throw my figure in the toilet? Like, like, I was like, oh shit, he's he's upset. I had Kevin Owens DMing me during a commercial break of Monday Night Raw once about he was pissed off about one of the videos that I did. And it was like he was on screen, and then it goes to commercial, and then I get a DM from him, and like as I'm reading the DM, he's back from commercial and he's coming out on screen walking to the ring to fight. And I'm like, he's sending me this DM in between to go fight. And it was funny because he was fighting um Matt Cardona at the time when he was Zach Ryder, because this was back then, and uh, so I'm like messaging him. I'm like, yo, like fucking tell him to lay off, he's pissed off at me. Like, what the fuck? That's but yeah, dude, like there's been a lot of uh a lot of figure things that have been inspired from my show, but my show was inspired by the figures, so it works in a in a in a circle. I like the circle.

SPEAKER_02 14:51

Yeah, I was gonna say you mentioned you mentioned ringside. I remember I don't know if it was right when I started my channel, or it was maybe a year before I started my channel, but I remember you you you know you'd get these massive boxes of figures and you'd do these unboxings. And I remember before I even started my channel, I was thinking to myself, that right there is like one of my biggest goals. Like one day I'm gonna get unboxed, I'm gonna get boxes from ringside and I'm gonna do these unboxings. And you know, you you really inspired me in a lot of ways like that to just, you know, to you know, just grind and you know make original content and and things like that. So I appreciate you obviously for for things like that. And you really, I don't know, you're you're just an icon, man. You really kind of you know, you had you like forged your own path, and you know, you inspired a lot of creators. So awesome. Thank you for that.

SPEAKER_01 15:40

Appreciate it.

SPEAKER_02 15:41

Yeah, man, for sure. Yeah, dude.

SPEAKER_01 15:42

And like, like I knew, you know, as as I was, you know, making the videos and and my channel was growing and all that kind of stuff, you know. And I was like, I know other people are gonna do this too because like it's a fun thing to do. Like, I love the you know, the people that also came up doing it, you know. Like, I think it's great because it's it's like, well, who's good who are gonna be the channels that grow? You know, who are gonna be the creators that stick with it? Because I mean, every day I had somebody, hey Grim, I'm I'm gonna be like you. Can you retweet my channel? You know, can you give me a shout out? You know, but it was like, well, well, what channels are actually gonna like survive? Who's gonna be my contemporaries? You know, and it's awesome because you guys are cool as fuck. So like I'm glad that you guys are the ones that fucking like I I'm glad that I inspired that because man, when you talk about grinding, I fucking grinded, like I'm exhausted from how hard I used to grind, and it's like, yeah, dude, you got to. You gotta grind if you want it, and you guys grind. I love both of your content. Like, you guys, like if there's videos that I watch on YouTube, it's very few, but you guys are in there.

SPEAKER_03 16:46

Appreciate that, man. Thank you. Going back, yeah, going back to that the grind. Tell us a little bit about because I've never heard you ever publicly like talk about it. The GTS wrestling figure show. I believe you did one every single week. How was the process of not only thinking of the idea every week to get something out, but also filming that every week? What was the process like for you?

SPEAKER_01 17:09

Okay, so and this is probably gonna blow your mind, but like I'm I'm weird like this, where all right, you know how like South Park they make them all at the last minute? Like, yeah, you ever heard that story? Like, so like that's kind of how it was. So GTS Wrestling Figure Show was every Saturday at 4:30. And a lot of times it was one of those things where I made the episode, I'd have to see the reaction to it, and I'd have to let it marinate for two or three days before I could even start thinking of ideas, you know. And then I think of the ideas and basically make you know the film board and all the scenes. I do it all in my head. And then Friday night, I would sit down and be like, all right, time to make this video. And I would stay up, I'd stay up all night, and and and I'd have that video ready every Saturday, 4:30.

SPEAKER_02 18:04

That's fantastic.

SPEAKER_03 18:05

Yeah, and talk about like the process because like not showing your hands, it's more difficult than you know people think, and executing some of those things. And you like had to do that. And I did you do the voiceovers while you were filming, or was it after the fact? It was it would be while I was filming, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 18:23

So it was it was honestly, dude, it such a very basic, archaic way of filming. Um, like I didn't the only props I used was the clear rubber bands that come with the figures. Yeah, they were the only things that I would use, like for you know, to hold something in place or something like that. But like I didn't really use a lot of the um like the clear trusses or you know, editing out the fishing line or green screen, or I didn't use any of that. Like I said, I made these in in a night, so it was it was really just not showing my hands, posing them, and then yeah, if you know I was gonna make them do a a Brock Lesnar turnip twister, which was the F5, I'd be like, I'd get them posed and I'd get the camera set. All right, boy, now I'm gonna give you the F5 and hopefully not show my hand.

SPEAKER_02 19:13

It's crazy because on camera, like even to this day, when you go back and watch the filming, it looks so precise and clean, even if you're not meaning for it to the with the figures landed, the way that you're doing the the shots and the like the movement of the camera looks so intentional, even if it wasn't intentional, it's really well done, even in the modern day. I mean, you can say what you want about the comedy or whatever, but the the way that it's done is still to this day is done really, really well. Thank you.

SPEAKER_01 19:43

Yeah, that's what I that's what I said. Like, like the way that like stage creator videos are, they're they're so like polished and well done. Like it's the complete opposite. Like it's like you're you're a movie production compared to like I said, South Park, you know, and and that, but like the keeping it simple was always something I wanted to do because my uh my relatable thought was I want someone to watch this and go, I can do that, you know. And if if I put too much on it, like like I love your videos, but I watch your videos and go, I don't know how to fucking do that. That was cool. Like I edit, that was awesome. Like that's a fucking nice transition. I don't know how to do that, you know. But but with my thing was any kid could say, Oh, I could set up my ring and take my iPhone and do exactly what Grim does, you know. It just the talent of it, of I did all the voices myself every once in a while. Uh Heel wife would do a voice or one of my friends, but very rare. 99.999 was me, myself. And and like I said, I usually filmed them within a day or a day or day or two tops if they were a big one. Uh remember when I used to go to the beach for the SummerSlam.

SPEAKER_03 20:59

This is what I was gonna ask you about. You went to all sorts of different locations to do these matches. The beach, I live like right next to the beach. I'm like too I'm not confident enough to go down there and film figures, but you happily would do that every year.

SPEAKER_02 21:15

Unbelievable. Like, I remember watching those videos back in the day, and I'm like, there's no damn way this man's balls are the size of the earth. Like, God in heaven. There's no like even today, I don't think that I could do that. Even you know, you kind of progress, right? Especially as you make videos. Like, I don't care near as much as I used to about toy hunts and all these things, but that right there is unbelievable to this day. That's still I I don't think I'd be able to execute it like that. You know, I I mean, talk a little bit about that.

SPEAKER_01 21:45

Um, yeah, that was definitely you wonder what's weird, it's like I thought nothing of it. Like, because yeah, so many would people would say exactly what you guys were saying. And for me, it was just like I'd pack up my wagon with all my shit and I'd drag it.

SPEAKER_02 22:00

the beach and I'd sit there and just play on the beach like like every all the other kids are playing with their sandbox what am I doing it's any different I think the one for me is like the is it it's the like the pool stairs like the pool siding right there by the by the ladder or by the pool steps I'm like this man is just a psycho out here look at yeah the craziest ones was like okay yeah I did it at the beach but like McDonald's McDonald's uh that was crazy Home Depot uh there was a Victoria's Secret bra match brain's match oh my god like yeah the the Victoria's Secret one that one was I felt like okay this is weird did you go buy yourself yeah of course oh man even my my my wife I was married at the time and she was like yeah I'm not going in the store with you while you do this like I I need to shop there like so yeah so like I went in there and you know and I just oh my god what's he doing and and then I was like no you know what maybe people commentating yeah I was like no I'm gonna voice over this one later okay yeah yeah because I'm like I said a lot of times I voiced it over immediately but the ones in public I would voice over after yeah unless it was at the beach at the beach a lot of times I did do the the natural voice yeah my favorite my favorite voice you'd you've you've done over the years I always loved the Jim Ross that was always my favorite I had always just absolute money comedic timing was always just peak for me personally that's my personal favorite JRKO out of nowhere yeah I don't matter do you have a favorite character that you probably him yeah I would probably say Jr as well because it's I mean Jr uh the Bork laser the Super Cena they're probably my top three um what about character wise I I loved Super Cena's character yeah yeah yeah they're they're my favorites like I hate that like John Cena's like retired because then it's like I still use the figure I don't care yeah yeah sure it's too funny have you ever thought have you ever thought about I don't know do it not necessarily like nostalgic or anything like have you ever thought about you know bringing that back for a period of time for a while or trying to recapture that energy or is that like its own era?

SPEAKER_01 24:26

It's so weird because like yeah every once in a while I get like real inspired of like I just want to do it again. Like I said just for my own fun.

SPEAKER_03 24:34

A lot of it was my own fun you know uh and I'll be like yeah you know I want to do it for my own fun and I'll make a video and I'll I'll make an episode and it'll get terrible views and and and like it gets terribly received where like and people like I don't want to see this like where you would think nostalgia where people be like oh it's back oh my god I was excited for this or like yeah people are like yeah stupid like they're not I don't know people just aren't into it it's a different age I guess I don't know yeah it's interesting I wonder if like it's not as acceptable like the swearing and you know all that these days and yeah I don't know I guess you have like a different audience now so yeah I guess it's gotta reach like the right audience I'm not sure even like the the Ebenezer toy hunts and stuff like I'll try to do like that like as a short even you know like a 30 second little toy hunt because you know the toy sections are so small these days anyway.

SPEAKER_01 25:32

But like I always feel like they get poorly received every once in a while one of them will do good but as far as my like my normal regular content people would rather see me you know as Grim talking about the figure than Ebenezer middle store for an action figure clip. So I'm like all right. People I feel like the realism. Yeah where was the the inspiration for Ebenezer um all right so back when like I was like a teenager me and my friends had a backyard wrestling federation and there was only like five to eight of us at any given time so a lot of us had multiple characters to fill out the roster of a federation. So when I back then it was this was early attitude era in real life so back then uh my character was I just made up this commentator and he was a cross between like Jim Ross and Larry King from uh CNN who was like a popular talk show guy at the time and it was just the character I made up to be a commentator for Backyard Wrestling and it was Ebenezer Middlesdorf and I just I remember I took like my dad's old puffy coat and and these the fucking headphones and I just looked ridiculous and I just talked with like the Larry like a like a Larry King voice and I just kind of talk like this like holy holy sheep shit on a shingle what did we just watch and like you know it just I don't know I just thought that it would be I I don't know if I'm schizophrenic but like I can like go between personalities and it was like I could put glasses on and just be a different person.

SPEAKER_03 27:16

Right.

SPEAKER_01 27:17

You know like so like I can put the Ebenezer glasses on and then I just I go into just being a different person and my brain works different and I think differently and I make different jokes and it's just I don't know I do that with like other characters I do as well like the the Uncle Rowdy and it just it it helps me like like actor wise just be a different person and think differently. Yeah I was gonna say I feel like that's a that's kind of a talent I feel like that's a a talent yeah it it definitely is like it it's uh because I could be sitting here in a creative block you know and then I could just put on the Ebenezer outfit and all of a sudden my brain works and I think of ideas and stuff I want to do you know it's and jokes and and I don't know it's just weird. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 28:03

Yep. I feel like a lot of that stuff too you know is in the moment you know like if you're filming something you know you just kind of turn your personality up and then you just start filming and then things just naturally pop. You know that's kind of I feel like that's the that's low key I feel like that's the best way like obviously people love their scripts and they love their following lines and you know they want to follow a specific order but when you get the something it's sometimes just going off the cuff is is the best way to go.

SPEAKER_01 28:30

You know and that's one of the things right like I mean like for example you know here on this uh stream that we're talking about like I mean we didn't talk about what we're gonna talk about we're just winging it you know yeah uh so like for my wrestling show for example you know with actual humans um you know I'm the booker I run the show whatever but I so loosely book my real life wrestling show because I let it be mostly a shoot where I'm like all right these are the matches I want tonight or this this is who I want in a feud tonight or whatever but then I kind of just turn the camera on and see what happens you know yeah well what what would your character say well what would your character say and it's like it's working on the fly you know what I mean and it's it makes my show so unpredictable and great because sometimes they even surprise me like oh I didn't fucking see that one coming you know but uh but like I developed that when I was playing with my action figures so like when when I was doing the GTS wrestling show I'd have ideas in my head I'd say you know oh this is what I want to happen this is who I want to win this is a couple jokes I want to say but then just sitting down and playing with the figures and say okay that scene what would happen next what naturally happens next and my brain works like that like works on the fly of telling the story of what happens next and I make up the story as I go so much better than if I was just sitting on the chair going you know and and that that transitioned from the way I made the figure show to now how we do it with real people you know yeah it's cool how you can learn how to book wrestling like through the figures and stuff.

SPEAKER_02 30:14

Literally yeah I was gonna say me and my son when I when we play together the best way is like he pick a character and then I pick a character or maybe we have a few characters and then we just start like I'll just spit out some stuff that kind of gets him chuckling and then he starts throwing it in and then I add lib and then we just go back and forth. That's the best way to play and then we're both literally crying laughing because it's like how the hell'd you come up with that in the moment like that and that makes for the best instead of being like all right there's here's the plan like you kind of okay he's the bad guy he's the good guy but then you just start spitting off the cuff and then you you know you you find the story you find the moments in there.

SPEAKER_01 30:51

Right. Yeah yeah yep and and and and it's funny too because like I play with my kids in the same way you know and and I feel like they develop such good imaginations from that you know like or they just have naturally great imaginations or what whatever but my kids are so creative that the stuff that they come up with for me to do I'm like I don't I don't have the logistics to do it. It's a great fucking idea.

SPEAKER_02 31:20

Well I was gonna say that's something that I feel like especially in 2026 that's also a big important part of I mean I think all three of us play probably play a role in this is you know they they watch our channels they watch our videos I feel like you know a lot of creators you watch you know especially in the modern day there's not a lot of creativity there's not a lot of play there's not a lot of hands-on toy related stuff it's a lot of you know just brain rot and you know and I know I know like that's ironic saying when we have damn Jim Ross and all the different crazy stuff that took place but I'm saying you know at least that was a creative you know you're playing with actual toys you're you're coming up with these you know crazy ideas and you're actually playing with physical toys instead of just you know AI goy slop or brain rot this and you know hooked on a screen and you know they're you're actually using your toys being creative creating these matches or these shows or whatever I think that's a hundred times more productive than you know a lot of the like kids really aren't playing with toys nearly as much as they did especially when we were all kids or you know the eras that followed after that.

SPEAKER_01 32:27

Right. When I was a kid that's all we we fucking had was toys and like I feel like that I was in like the best era for toys in the 80s and and you know every all the all the 80s toys are still made today you know like that's how good they were you know and it's like and it's like you know wrestling wrestling transformers GI Joe like Grimm's toy show originally started as a toy show of everything and it was just the wrestling community embraced me where all the other communities told me I was a fucking weirdo and to get lost. Yeah but but I'm a wrestling weirdo like that's what I learned like like the the sicko's and pro wrestling relate to me you know um and and and but like but that's the thing like yeah I'm obsessed with wrestling and I have wrestlers but like Transformers is really like my obsession obsession I was gonna say you used to have the craziest Transformers collection man. I still do and and I literally said the other day like on Twitter I said I said I guarantee you I have the biggest Transformer collection in the world and and that it's it's like kind of low key because the majority of it's in storage and but yeah I was gonna I was gonna say I'd probably have more every time I see some huge Transformer collection I look at it and I go I have all of that and way more that's fantastic. Yeah one of these days I gotta like get it all out and get it all set up and get it all filmed or something.

SPEAKER_03 33:52

Yeah yeah yeah going back to you know the GTS figure wrestling is there any like video that like stands out to you as your favorite or like the one you have the most memories of um or like just like memories of working on it there was one where it was uh Bray Wyatt and Jeff Hardy and it was in Home Depot oh yeah um just because the looks that I got from the people yeah it was hysterical um and I just I just remember just the the video did well and I was just like thank god it's doing good because you probably you you have restraining orders and and everything off of the Home Depots now or you're you're banned from every Home Depot in the country.

SPEAKER_02 34:40

I'm I'm I'm like it's funny because I'm actually not banned from Home Depot but I am I I do have like my picture up at quite a few local businesses of you know don't let this guy in I was gonna say my what I loved uh was the bat the rooftop battle royals yes always always loved those and then it was Donna right Donna your neighbor golly man those clips always used to make me laugh so hard yeah was she in on it or was that legit dude it's so crazy because it's like a little bit of both yeah you know like like I mean like the thing again like we never planned any of that you know what I'm saying but if if I'm on the roof and playing action figures she dead ass would stick her head out the window and go Dave what the fuck are you doing on the roof you retard get off the roof stop throwing action figures off of it you know like like you dead ass do that you know but like and the the comedic timing you'd pause you Donna yeah like yeah that's what I'm saying so it was like very very rarely have I ever said to Donna hey Donna want to do a video like and if it was ever hey Donna want to do a video it's something where we're getting along because anytime she's coming at me and attacking me it was all legitimate like or or she's just playing it up because she sees me filming something so she knows like oh yeah I'm gonna go aggravate him and be in his video like that's fantastic like like you know what I mean where it's not it it was real none of it was planned but maybe it was just over the top because I was filming that doesn't have done that being until you know what I mean yeah yeah yeah is there a is kind of adding on to that is there like a specific video that maybe was the transition period or maybe where you took a look at it maybe it's figure related or maybe it's GTS related where you you you know maybe it took off went viral something you're like okay this this could be something or this is you know what did it start off you're just uploading for fun or you tried to make it a career or you started uploading and then you know this this video kind of changed the course or something like that.

SPEAKER_01 36:55

So all right so it was actually like I made a bunch of videos and um they did okay and then I stopped I took like this little bit of a break and then I went to ringside fest and it was the first time I met Matt Cardona and um I said something to him about like oh yeah I'm on the W Figs board I'm the guy that posts those Grim videos and he goes oh yeah I watched all those those were pretty good and it was like that him saying that like my videos were good like I was like that like inspired me to like go back to it because I had stopped and I was like oh he thought they were cool you know so so and then when I like I remember even logging back on and looking at them and they had like a thousand views you know two thousand views and then they were at like 10,000 and 2000 views and I was like oh shit and there was like comments like oh you should make more of these these were funny and and I was like oh okay so I like yeah I started cranking on making the videos but it wasn't really until the Slender Man like the real life videos um because remember like earlier I said that I was doing the the real life human videos once a week right the Slender Man videos were like I'd post them on Fridays and then all week long during the action figure videos every comment wasn't about the action figure.

SPEAKER_03 38:23

I don't care about a review of fucking Dolph Ziggler what about Slender Man interesting yeah so you got like a different audience and they started leaning towards one former content right and it was like and it was like okay I could post this action figure review of the new Batista and get 3000 views or I could post Slenderman and get 3000 views and and I was like uh it was at the point where my channels were doing so well that I was like I could probably do this as a job but I would just need a little bit more and all of a sudden the Slender Man thing was doing really good and I said I wonder if I do three days a week a Slender Man instead of once a week so I started doing Monday Wednesday Friday Slender Man and the channel went like a fucking rocket and and I just remember I was like all right I'm gonna quit my job and we're going five days a week Slender Man and we did we went five days a week Slender Man and my fucking views went through the roof and the everything was just up up up and I was just like this is the craziest thing I was like it's a hit but what do we do with it yeah it's crazy how like topical things like that like can really blow up like you did the clowns too I remember like the whole clown craze was insane and like you jumped on that and that was perfect.

SPEAKER_01 39:46

Right and it was crazy because the Slender Man thing was like the end of 2015 right and and like I said I dragged it out as long as I could we did the reveals which I don't know if you guys remember the reveals it was there was three Slendermans and one of them was uh Tommy Toy Travels and like one of them remember that you guys collabed yeah that's crazy yeah I used to watch them all the time yep yeah that's what I said somebody messaged me the other day and was like wait Tommy Toy Travels was on GTS I'm like yeah he was the Slenderman reveal yeah um yeah a lot of people don't like it it's like the the whole series has millions of views and like the finale like nobody watched make it make sense but uh but yeah so the Slenderman thing ended and then it was like now what you know what I mean it's because it's like you you have this audience it's all watching this Slenderman thing and then you get to the end of what you could possibly do with it. Well now what you know and it just so happened that the creepy clown thing happened and then yeah that blew up even bigger than the fucking Slender Man.

SPEAKER_02 40:52

Yeah that was a crazy time period man like these random these random pranksters are dressing up like clowns and terrorizing these towns then you know you to I mean it was genius absolute genius I literally was like I saw the frigging news report and I was like because we needed a new character you know I saw the news report and I I went over to the store bought some clown costumes I gathered up my friends I said we're going over the woods and we're gonna film this skit I filmed the skit with the clowns and whatever and I posted it to YouTube and it blew up it went viral it was on the news people thought that they were the clowns that people were talking about and and then I just was that then I'm like okay now I'm on this clown hunt and I'm the clown hunt channel you know and then it was you know the clowns show up in my backyard for a shot at the tag team titles and then people were like oh man this was just a wrestling thing bro that got that's like the second or third most watched video on my channel is the the clowns show up for tag title match interesting so you had a lot of like I guess maybe non-wrestling fans tune in to see all that Slenderman stuff were you able to like convert like a lot of them to continue watching you think yeah and what so what's crazy is a lot of the people that watch my wrestling channel aren't even into pro wrestling and they'll be like I try to watch WWE or AEW I can't get into it GTS is the best like like that that my brand of wrestling is what they like and they don't like the other kind they're like oh no this is boring this is too slow whatever because you know I have very fast paced YouTube brain rot wrestling you know um you know it's by design you know like I I tell my guys like bro don't get in there and do a headlock and and you know wrist lock and just just cut that part out get to the very it's very it kind of feels like attitude era esque right you have these over the top characters over the top stories it's more brawling you know there's not as much focus like you have your moments that brawl lead to the next moment things like that yeah I I try like like I want it to be uh like I feel like today's wrestling like it's so polished it's so crisp and it's so fake like you know we they they post their real names on their Twitter accounts so it's like I know that you know this is you know uh Lexi Kaufman playing Alexa Bliss.

SPEAKER_01 43:30

You know what I mean? And it's like it to me it's so fake and where GTS wrestling like I said it's I I they're the real people but they're a character that's just them turned up you know it's all real people with real we we blend in the real storylines, real life, you know, like like the storyline was dead ass you had a match last week and you didn't show up to taping. Well my dad had a meeting at work and I had to be there. I don't give a fuck about your stupid meeting you show Up boom. You know, like, and that's the storyline because that's what really happened.

SPEAKER_02 44:04

It's almost it's it's kind of weird, but it's almost like you remember in the late 90s, early 2000s, like the shaky cam footage or the real found footage style. That's what it really reminds me of. It's got that real, you know. I don't know, it's it's real grounded.

SPEAKER_01 44:18

It's yeah, that's the vibe we're going for. Like, yeah, again, I want it to be very relatable. Like, I don't want it to look like a studio production. I want it to look like, man, I could put a ring in my backyard and have GTS just like Grim does, you know. And it's like, and again, a lot of it is too many people think of it as GTS is like WWE or AEW, whereas more so, it's more a vlog about me running a wrestling show in my backyard. You know what I mean? And and and it's like, yeah, I'm trying to make it like a WWE or AEW, but the actual content is me vlogging, making this show. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_03 45:04

Yeah, yeah, I feel like also the way you were talking about like not booking like the action to be exactly like real life wrestling. I think, yeah, for YouTube, I feel like people gravitate to like a different kind of style than they would sitting down and watching Raw or a pay-per-view or something. You gotta book it a little bit differently, and I do that too with my channel, right?

SPEAKER_01 45:26

Yeah, exactly. You you understand that, like, you know, you're gonna make this match happen. Oh, it's Ricky the Dragon Steamboat and and Macho Man, and yeah, but you're not gonna make them do lockups and and sit in a rest halt for 30 seconds because your YouTube audience doesn't want to see that, you know.

SPEAKER_03 45:42

Yeah, because I think working they're working a crowd in real life, but you gotta play to the audience who's watching, like at home, right?

SPEAKER_01 45:52

At home, right? Yeah, and you know, it it's so annoying when like like I don't have a live audience ever. The only people around the ring are the other wrestlers who are gonna be in the matches, you know. So so I tell my wrestlers, right? You don't have a live crowd, you're playing to a YouTube audience, nobody's sitting at home in front of their fucking computer clapping for you to get out of that fucking wrestling, right? Yeah, you know, nobody's doing that, so don't go in the wrestling. Yeah, and if you do, I'm editing it out.

SPEAKER_02 46:22

Yeah. That's good though. That's like good logical. Like, I think that works best, you know? I think that it's like and it's like carved out its own length. Like backyard wrestling has obviously always been a thing, right? It's been a long, it's been around for a very long time, but and I'm sure there's definitely other backyard wrestling leagues and stuff like that. I imagine. I don't I don't know of any right off the top of my dome, but I think that yeah, it's like its own it's like its own thing, it's its own path and its own, you know, it's developed its own audience, right? Which I think is is really cool.

SPEAKER_01 46:57

It's cool with with YouTube. Um, you know, I I used to do backyard before YouTube, and it was only on VHS tapes. They're they're it's so funny, they're literally sitting right there. All my old old ass. I wanted to make like a video showing like all my old backyard stuff, you know. But but some of it again, because we were trying to be as offensive as possible. Uh some of it is like I can't show this on YouTube. Yeah. I gotta I gotta adjust this so I can plug it in because my battery's dying on my phone. That's all right.

SPEAKER_02 47:31

Um, I was gonna say, you know, you at at one point you obviously had to shift your focus from the wrestling action figure side of it to the real life wrestling part of it to running your own show. And I know for a fact that had to have taken away from you being in the like you probably at one point in time you were in the loop about collecting, you knew exactly what was coming out. You were very you have an encyclopedia of the line in your mind, you know all these things. In today, 2026, are you as familiar with what's coming out? How has that shifted? How is your what are your collecting habits like now compared to then? Your passion level, things like that. Has it shifted? Obviously, I mean I'm sure it's shifted, obviously, but what what's that look like? How did that kind of gradually change over time?

SPEAKER_01 48:14

Um, it's it's hard because like, yeah, it's it's I mean, I've always collected. I've always been a collector, and like I feel like it's just who I am, it's in my blood. Um, and and but yeah, it got to a point where I have so much stuff that like I said, most of it's in storage. Only like my coolest things are on display. And and I I I don't know, I got to a point where I guess I guess I just have so much of it that it didn't become special anymore.

SPEAKER_03 48:45

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 48:46

Uh, you know, there was a thing that I used to do in my original videos called Thrill of the Purchase, you know, and it was like like how exciting is it to find the new set at Walmart and you know run run walk up to the register all fucking excited, you know, scanning, buying them thrill of the purchase, you know. And it's like, well, I I I get them, I get them early, I get them often, you know, I get whatever I need whenever I want it, people will send it to me. I don't need to hunt for things anymore. So it's like it kind of like, okay, well, the only thing now I gotta hunt is the store exclusives, you know? And even at that, like I had so many friends who wanted to help me out. Oh, Grim, I found them for you. I'll bring them over, you know. Like, I need I didn't have to hunt. I had people doing it for me just because they wanted to help me out, they wanted to be in a video, whatever. And I appreciate it, it's great, but it took away from the fun of me doing it, you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_03 49:42

Yeah, I felt like at the time I was sponsored a few years ago, once I started getting like every figure of of a set, it started to like I don't know, it didn't feel as special anymore. And these past few years for me, like I have like figures just sitting in the box and I don't open it straight away like I used to. Maybe it's just growing up and getting older, but yeah, there's definitely a shift there, I feel.

SPEAKER_01 50:06

Yeah. Well, if it see, then like, and then I say, Oh, it doesn't feel special anymore, right? But then, like, like you say about keeping up, uh, the next figures that are coming out at Target for the um classic collection with Crush and Elmatador and Bull Nicano. Like, I've been fantasizing about those three figures for years. I can't wait to get my hands on them. I'm so damn excited. Yeah, you know, so it's like, yeah, I'm still hyped for figures, but it's just the the 900th Roman Reigns and the you know the eight 800th Dom Mysterio and 37th Rhea Ripley, like yeah, they become way less special and like I forget and zone out on them. But but the figures I care about, oh yeah, I'm still heavily invested.

SPEAKER_02 50:50

Well, I was gonna say, okay, from that, you know, what what are some notable Mattel releases over the years or things you remember maybe when they came out on the channel at the time of the channel, or maybe a review you remember? Just what what's an all-timer for you from Mattel or one that you really hold dear or something like that?

SPEAKER_01 51:06

Um geez, that's a tough one. Probably probably like Razor Ramon, like when they made that first defining moments, Razor Ramon. Because they said for the longest time we weren't getting a Razor Ramon at all, you know. And then it was like for me, that was like a holy grail. Um, I want to say I felt that way also about I think it was called Entrance Greats Macho Man. I don't know if it was, or maybe it was a defining moment. It was the first Macho Man that they made. He was in the the white and the purple from WrestleMania 7. Defining moments, yeah. WrestleMania 7.

SPEAKER_04 51:45

Yeah, okay.

SPEAKER_01 51:45

Yeah, that was like the first macho man figure we got because we never got one in the Jax collection. Yep, and then it was like we're finally getting a macho man, so like to finally get a macho man that I remember that being super exciting. Um video-wise, uh the Ryback uh custom I made. Uh, I remember I made a McTell custom Ryback, and that was like my first viral video. Yes. Um, and I remember Ryback seeing it and commenting about it. Like, that's like how me and Ryback became friends. Was like he saw that video and thought it was funny. And then a little while later, when some guys jumped me at a wrestling show, the clip went viral, and he wound up seeing the clip, and he was like, Oh, this is the guy that made those funny videos about me. And uh, and then we wound up talking and shit, and that's how me and him like hooked up. Um so and then our the the um that raw entrance stage. Um and then and that that review went viral for me, and then the John Cena the with the it was a Kmart exclusive, and he had the raw shirt and he had the hands like this. Yep, and that video went viral for me. Like, right, I I think it was like people before I did comedy reviews, nobody did a comedy review, everybody was very meticulous of you know, here we can see the paint job, and here we can see great applications of paint, you know.

SPEAKER_00 53:16

And I'm like, This is his ass.

SPEAKER_01 53:19

Here you can see they put paint even in his ass crack, you know. And it was like people are like, Oh my god, I can't believe this guy's talking like this.

SPEAKER_00 53:27

And this is his face, yeah. Well, with the John Cena one, it was his hands was like this, and I was like, most people don't know that this is sign language for asshole, which it really is.

SPEAKER_02 53:40

Yeah, well, now we we can't even get those hands anymore, so we got the one, and now we don't get those hands, so right.

SPEAKER_00 53:47

We get these hands, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 53:50

Have you ever had Ryback on the show? Like on Wrestle for You?

SPEAKER_01 53:55

Uh no, he he um he like doesn't wrestle.

SPEAKER_03 53:59

He's uh has he? Yeah, I know he's dealt with injuries and stuff, like he hasn't wrestled over the years.

SPEAKER_01 54:06

So when when he first got released, he was wrestling. And then when I when I first met him in person, I was booked on an independent wrestling show that he was like also booked on. Yeah, and that was you know, after those things, I was you know excited to see him in person. And I remember he was there in person and I was asking him, Oh, you know, you ever want to come wrestle on my show? And and it was just one of those things where again, it's like they want a fortune, you know. And I'm like, you know, I've had plenty of people on my show that either did it for a very what we call in the business the brother brother rate, you know, or or for nothing at all, just for the fun of it, you know. And and and it's like, yeah, there's a lot of those guys that did it for the fun of it or for a very low price or or exchange of something, and and then there's other of these guys is like, oh yeah, right back, he's cool with me, he wants to be my buddy, and then yeah, give me a couple grand. I'm like, yeah, bro, I ain't giving you a couple grand. Wow, like I'm on YouTube, like I'm not renting out the fucking convention hall or nothing.

SPEAKER_03 55:09

Like, is that what these wrestlers on the indies, like former WWE stars, they're making a couple grand per appearance? Because, like, how can independent promotions like be able to afford to pay those prices?

SPEAKER_01 55:21

Okay, all right, I'll give you a quick uh rundown. Yeah, so a lot like if you just got released from WWE, depending on who you are, like three to five thousand dollars for an appearance to to I'm gonna wrestle at your show against your local guy, whatever. Three to five thousand. Um, and yeah, how are they gonna fucking afford that? Well, yeah, the other thing that independent wrestling thrives on is called the money mark, right? So, so hey man, you're a big fan of Dolph Ziggler. Well, we're gonna book Nick Nemeth, and it's only gonna cost us two thousand dollars, and you're gonna pay for it, but you're gonna be his manager.

SPEAKER_03 56:02

Wait, what? They get like a fan to pay two thousand dollars and be his manager. Yep, that's crazy.

SPEAKER_01 56:08

Wow, yep, wow, that or or not even sometimes. The fan doesn't even get to be the manager. Sometimes the fan does it nameless and faceless, just I really want the show to do good. I really want the show to do good. Let's bring in this person.

SPEAKER_03 56:23

That's pretty cool. I mean, I can't I can't hate on that. That's that's uh good strategy if you can do it, right?

SPEAKER_01 56:29

Or they get the sponsor, you know, the local hamburger joint. You know what I'm saying? Like, oh yeah, the local hamburger, burger plus down on the corner, sponsored to bring in Dolph Ziggler. Hey, he's here, thank you, everybody. Burger Plus down at the corner, yeah, yeah. And he's there courtesy of Burger Plus, right? So anyways, and you gotta pay their travel as well, right? Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_03 56:54

Yeah, yep.

SPEAKER_01 56:55

Yeah, I had I had the very fortunate uh to have Thunder Rosa, uh, and she like rarely does independent wrestling in the Northeast. She does do them down like in Texas and stuff.

SPEAKER_02 57:08

I was gonna say she does a lot of Texas appearances, right?

SPEAKER_01 57:11

Yeah, but she hasn't wrestled in New Jersey in years. And uh yeah, I was fortunate enough that uh Tony Connor proved her to be on my show, and I got to wrestle her uh, you know, in a match, you know, in front of a lot of people. We sold out the place, and it was a really cool experience, and and it was really special because she hadn't been around. And yeah, it did draw, it did draw great. We sold the place out, and it was like, but you know, without sponsors or money marks or whatever, like I said, even sellouts is still big big price to pay to bring in names like that. She's the aw women's champ, you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_03 57:47

It wasn't just I remember you had like a warehouse. I'm just thinking, like, have you ever thought of like buying or I guess renting like a place like that and then like selling tickets to have like a live show without help for business?

SPEAKER_01 58:03

Well, well, put it this way. You see, like you said, my show's chaos, attitude era level chaos, right? The the problem is, is we would need an indoor building that is somewhere in the middle of the woods away from everything. The problem is where I live is very highly developed, uh, you know, in New Jersey. Um, I mean, yeah, there are farmlands and stuff, and there are that kind of thing, but we rented two warehouses and we got fucking thrown out of both of them. And yeah, I remember that, yeah. Yeah, and like I mean, that was legit, you know. That was legit. And and the the problem is is it's not like like all right, they're like, okay, you rent this warehouse, film the wrestling in the warehouse. I'm like, yeah, okay, but sometimes I need a scene of the guy running out the door. Sometimes I need a scene outside of the guy's car. You know, they would get fucking pissed off that they didn't want us filming the scenes because oh, now the guy's getting the shippy out of them by the trunk. The guy's getting stuffed in the trunk, the car's speeding away. Why are you filming stuff outside the warehouse?

SPEAKER_03 59:05

You know, would it change if, like, one day like you built up the money to like buy a warehouse? Would it change?

SPEAKER_01 59:14

Like, if it was again secluded, because like we were we were in this warehouse that was next to other warehouses, and then the people in the other warehouses are seeing a guy getting stuffed in the trunk and getting, you know, and they're like, Oh my god, what's happening? And they're like, Oh, they don't realize, oh, it's just the guy at the wrestling place doing a production.

SPEAKER_02 59:35

Yeah, I was gonna say, what if you did like, I mean, I know you don't do a lot of live stuff, but I mean, maybe you could work to that. Like, have you ever thought about doing like a street beefs type deal where you you have like people you know that these we're doing our show on these days, and you could have, I don't know, people come watch in person for a small fee or something like that.

SPEAKER_01 59:54

Like, I would love to do something like that, but it's like again, the real estate here and the insurance. Nobody wants fucking wrestling where people are getting thrown on their heads on their property, you know. Yeah, like we wanted to do, you know, they just did that UFC thing the other night, I think it was last night. Uh, the UFC thing on the lawn of the White House, right? I said to my friends, we have literally White Castle right down the fucking block. I said, Let's break the ring down, bring it over to White Castle, sit it on the lawn, and do GTS on the White Castle lawn, you know.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:28

That'd be funny, I think.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:30

Yeah, and and we go in there and I go in there and I talk to them, and they all thought it was hilarious and it was a great idea. And we talked to the manager, and the manager said it was a great idea, and then they talked to White Castle Corporate, and they just said, Yeah, we just gotta let them know that we're doing this fun event. And they said, Absolutely not, you can't have people doing pro wrestling, that's a liability. Yeah, if it was anything else, they said, Can you do it without wrestling? And I said, Well, yeah, it's kind of lame.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:55

Would you get in because I I think I remember you saying like you got like demonetized for just wrestling without a ring? Is that like still a thing? Because I was thinking, what if you just did like a brawl outside of White Castle?

SPEAKER_01 1:01:07

Yeah, no, we did that actually at Taco Bell.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:10

Yeah, I was gonna say, you used to have segments all the time where you'd be wrestling in public and and things like that.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:17

Yeah, I literally it all got demonetized. Like anything is that in the adpocalypse? Anything that looks like a fight that's not in a wrestling ring gets demonetized for being not wrestling. Like, I can get away with it by putting it like as like a clip in the middle. Like, let's say I wanted to get somebody jumped in a parking lot, you know. Like, if it's in the middle of a wrestling episode, there's a match in a ring, and then there's the clip at the parking lot. I can get away with that stuff. Um, but like, yeah, we did a match, you know, like you had you had clash at the Clash in Paris, or we had Clash at the Taco Bell. Uh, and again, we just figured we were gonna do like a street fight. Like, you know, the guys got out their cars and just had the brawl on the open grass, and of course the police were called, and of course the video was demonetized.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:04

Damn, damn.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:06

So was that during the adpocalypse that that all happened? Or when did it change?

SPEAKER_01 1:02:12

The the Taco Bell one was only like two years ago. Um, but when they first got that was awful. They demonetized like everything in mine. Yeah, wow. But uh yeah, dude, no, they they demonetized like everything when that happened. Like I was like, you know, like when the stock market crashed, and like how people react to a stock market crash, yeah, that was me.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:42

Yeah, that would have been scary.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:44

Yeah, that was that was real bad. It was real bad, dude. And it was like I had just bought the wrestling ring, I just rented a warehouse. You want to know what saved me at the time was doing the pay-per-views. I don't know if you guys remember, I was doing the $1.99 pay-per-views, and uh that was what saved the channel because I wasn't making any money. Like, you know, originally the videos were making great money. I quit my job, yeah, and all that kind of stuff, and and was making enough money to rent the warehouse and buy a ring, and then all of a sudden I got this big ass rent payment, and then they demonetized my fucking channel.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:19

Yeah, wow. So the whole channel or just like certain videos?

SPEAKER_01 1:03:23

It was it was 98% of the videos, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:26

It wasn't all the figure videos too. Was that all the figure videos too?

SPEAKER_01 1:03:31

Yeah, yeah, because uh every other word was a curse, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:35

Right, you know, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:36

So it was like uh so I did two things that saved the channel that saved me from going bankrupt. Because if I went bankrupt, I would have just gone back to work on a Coca-Cola and GTS would have died in 2017. Um, which is almost 10 years ago, which is crazy to think. Um, but I did the pay-per-view events, which at the time, I don't know if you can even do it now, but you could you were able to upload a video and charge people to watch the video.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:03

So I think that yeah, membership.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:07

Now you have to do members only, right? Yeah, now they'd sign up to be a member and then they could watch it as members only. But back then it was just, yeah, must pay money to watch this video. So we did it just like WWE, you know, where it was like we built up the matches, we'd tell them, you know, this date and time is gonna be a pay-per-view, it's a dollar ninety-nine to watch it. As soon as we'd make it live, people would go, You gotta watch the watch, pay to watch this. Fuck you, Grim, unsubscribe.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:34

But I was gonna say, do you think you could shift to like uh or not maybe shift, but could you do some sort of Patreon model or something like that where you can be a little bit more free or you don't have to be as over the years?

SPEAKER_01 1:04:49

Yeah, we've tried all that. So we did Patreon purview, uh, because they yeah, uh YouTube took away the the one-time only pay-per-view thing, but then they re-monetize things, and I learned how to monetize my stuff. So most of my stuff's monetized now because I know how to keep it monetized. Um, but but no, the like with the members only, uh, the Patreon purviews. What I've noticed is that my fan base does not like to spend money. Uh they very much engage with anything that's free. Uh, you know, tell them where when and where to be, and they're there and they watch it, and they support, and they like, and they comment, and they share, but ask them for a couple of dollars, and it's fuck you, Grib, unsubscribe. So, so I very much said, you know what? That's that's the way my audience rolls. I don't try to sell them things, I don't try to get them on Patreon. Like, I have it, it's there, it's a dollar, and and I put this stuff that I yeah, like, yeah, the guy was getting sodomized on camera. I can't upload that. Like, like, you know, the like I'm saying, like in the match, he's shoving things in his holes. Like, come on, bro. But I'll put that part on Patreon. You can go see that on Patreon. Patreon. But other than that, like I don't really sell it, you know, and then like I I set up the members thing for like when we do big events, I'll just set up like a camera and they can like watch the whole process live streaming as like a members only type thing. And like matches that like I just feel like don't fit into my universe. I'll put up as members only, that kind of stuff. But other than that, I don't like to ask people for money, I guess. It's just yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:06:31

Yeah, with the the adpocalypse thing, how did you figure out that you had to have the ring? Did somebody from YouTube like tell you that was the reason?

SPEAKER_01 1:06:40

Yeah, yeah. Yep, yeah. At the time they had uh YouTube managers, um what they call YouTube partner managers. And I don't I mean I don't know if you guys were at that level at that time or what, but at that time you had to be a certain level, have a certain amount of watch time, a certain amount of subscribers, and then you'd get a partner manager. And yeah, I kept catching demonetizations, and and then you know, I'd appeal it, and sometimes I'd get them back, sometimes I wouldn't. And then, you know, I started saying, Well, what's wrong with this video? And they say, You can't monetize fights. And I said, It's not a fight, it's pro-wrestling. And they're going, Well, you're beating the shit out of them on the side street corner in in Brooklyn, it's not pro-wrestling, you know, it doesn't look like it's wrestling. They said it's got to be in a wrestling ring, and then you could say it's pro-wrestling in the comments, and then people recognize that it's pro-wrestling. I said, All right. I did a clip, and this was like uh, I guess it was like 2023. It was um Jimmy Controversy and Danny Doring, and we were at a toy show, and uh and I beat the shit out of Jimmy. We flipped a table, I hit him with a garbage can, toys were flying everywhere. Like we dumped the whole table of figures. It was great. And they demonetized it. Yeah, they demonetized it. Yeah, and I was like, I put it even as part of a regular wrestling video. It was just that was the start of it. And they were like, the partner manager was like, no, he's like, it looks like a fight video, looks like you're just beating the shit out of this kid. Okay.

SPEAKER_03 1:08:13

So so were all the original, like you fighting, you know, Grime and the Ninja Twins and Travone and stuff, are they all demonetized? Yeah, that sucks.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:24

Yeah, remember the remember the Jimmy Controversy? Um, remember when I went to his birthday and put him through a table and put him through his birthday cake? Bro, and that video for me, you want to talk turning point videos? That that video taught me everything. Okay, because Jimmy Controversy was the bad guy. Jimmy Controversy hack hacked my channel. Jimmy Controversy was torturing me in every which way possible. And I was going to get my revenge, and we show up, and there he is sitting at a table by himself singing happy birthday to himself. And I beat the shit out of him, broke his presence, put him through a table, ate his cake. And then the video gets demonetized. And I said, Why the fuck did they demonetize this video? And the the partner manager comes on and he goes, This video is horrendous. I can't believe you even posted this video. No way. And I said, Why? What's wrong with it? And he goes, Assaulting a special needs kid alone on his birthday?

SPEAKER_00 1:09:23

And I was like, I didn't see it like that at all. And I said, All right, I gotta start.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:30

How does it look to someone else? So I learned how to make my content of how is this gonna go over? How does this look to other people, you know? Yeah, and even then I still make that mistake. Like, like, because we do intergender wrestling a lot in my in my YouTube show. And and I so I think nothing of getting in the ring with women or other guys getting in the ring with women. And uh I did this match at again, one of my live shows with uh against a girl who's the size of my leg. She's literally 98 pounds. And uh it was a match that Maven fucking reviewed, snow less. Oh yeah, I'm rag dolling this girl, you know, because she's the size of my leg, beating the fuck out of her, not realizing that these people at this brewery have never seen a guy wrestle a girl, let alone a guy three times her size, let alone I'm beating the shit out of her. Me and her, I said to her, I said to her before that match, like, like, I'm not gonna sell for you if you don't hit me. Like, you're you're you know, this big, so you gotta fucking hit me, you know. And and me and her both, you know, we had a couple shots. We both went out there with fucking beer muscles, and we beat the shit out of each other, like for real. Like, we pulled nothing. We pulled nothing. She broke my nose, like she couldn't walk straight for a week. I threw her through a ladder, and and I didn't realize that afterwards people were like, bro, like people were like, What the fuck? And I was like, really?

SPEAKER_02 1:11:04

Yep, inner intergender wrestling doesn't get the you know, it doesn't have the you know, that used to be just kind of like, oh yeah, that was just kind of part of a wrestling show. That's not really something that's very popular, especially in 2026, right? Or more modern.

SPEAKER_03 1:11:19

Wasn't she like TNA world champion?

SPEAKER_00 1:11:21

Yeah, yeah, that's what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:23

Yeah, that's why I'm not I think you know, like people people's minds immediately go to DV and you know, all these crazy things, and that right.

SPEAKER_01 1:11:31

And I was like, no, it's not like that at all. Like I put the girl over, she beat the shit out of me. Like, so I mean, I don't know, but yeah, people were horrified, and I was like, Oh, okay. So again, still learning, you know.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:45

Yeah, wow. Well, yeah, I bet like YouTube, YouTube has crazy monetization rules anyway. You know, they like to keep their nose clean of any controversy of any kind, you know. So I bet that's really tough to navigate.

SPEAKER_01 1:11:58

They're their their rules are insane because if you actually read it, everything that they put in their terms of service is very vague. Yeah, so they could technically take down anything, they could technically take down this fucking stream for whatever reason that's in the TOS. I can find something, you know. And and it's like, so really they only enforce it again when there's a problem or an issue or a controversy, you know. Yep. And uh, like I know, like with my show, like I said, you know, I ride a fine line, I still we still curse and and we still do like edgy sexual humor, but like, you know, I know we can't do certain things because then it gets demonetized or age restricted. Yeah, yeah, and you know, I stay away from that stuff. So, like I said, I've learned and and my shit's been good, but uh, I gotta get going soon, guys. My phone keeps fucking up and dying.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:50

No, man, yeah. Well, I mean, we we've hit an out we've hit an hour 12. I mean, I I think it's I've had I've had a fantastic time. I think it's been a great time talking to you guys. I would I would come and do it again.

SPEAKER_03 1:13:00

Well, yeah, I think there's plenty more to talk about.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:02

Yeah, I was gonna say we wanna I'd like to have you on and kind of do some uh we have the segment we do where it's called agree disagree, where you know there's a prompt and we it could be wrestling related, it could be figure related, and then you know, we give our opinions and we say one, two, three, agree, disagree, and then we kind of debate back and forth on it. It'd be fun to do something like that, or maybe have a bracket and break down some different things or something like that, and you'd be the tiebreaker, if you will. Yeah, yeah, for sure.

SPEAKER_03 1:13:31

Yeah, but yeah, we appreciate you coming on. This was a lot of fun. There's so much more to talk about, too, with you. Would love to have you back on again.

SPEAKER_01 1:13:38

Oh, yeah, dude. I would love to do it. You guys are awesome. Like I said, uh, you know, meeting you guys years ago at the WrestleMania and you know, just following you guys and watching your content. And uh, you guys are awesome. I appreciate you guys, you know, having me on. I would do it anytime. So let's do it.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:55

We we appreciate you. You're a legend. We appreciate you for coming on. I think again, like I said, no offense to Danny or or Luke, but I think they would also agree that you're an absolute legend, and we we're very appreciative of you taking the time out to come on and and talk, you know, all things wrestling GTS and just a little bit about your journey and story. But yeah, I guess we'll we'll let you get out of here and you can uh we'll we'll hit you up at some point. We'll we'll definitely have you on, but we appreciate you, man.

SPEAKER_01 1:14:20

Sounds good, man. Yeah, thank you guys so much. Appreciate it. Thanks for watching my shit. It's like it's I can't believe I'm still doing it all these years later, and and it's so much fun to do. So it's like I just keep on going. So let's fucking go.

SPEAKER_02 1:14:34

I drank. We can all relate, we can all relate to the YouTube grind, man. It's uh it's nothing, it's nothing like any other job out there, man.

SPEAKER_01 1:14:42

Right, yeah. You know what pisses me off? Like, a lot of times people fucking try to tell me oh, must be nice, or oh, he's got it easy. Like, fuck you. Like, you have any idea how hard I worked for this? Yeah, yeah, yeah. 100% for real and still do to maintain it, like, like go fuck yourself.

SPEAKER_02 1:15:02

Yeah, 100%, man.

SPEAKER_03 1:15:04

Nate, you have anything else you want to add, or no, I think I think uh I'm just looking forward to the next one. So thank you, Grim, for coming on.

SPEAKER_02 1:15:11

Hell yeah, man. All right, guys. Well, that's pretty much gonna wrap up My Dame Creators episode number 11. Let us know what you thought down below. And if you guys want to see Grim back, let us know down in the comment section. But that's gonna wrap it up, man. Thank you guys so very much for watching. We'll see you guys next time. Have a blessed one, and we'll catch you guys later.