Relative Chaos

The Age of Instagram & Why We Talk Like This

Erin (Kelly) Banta, Megan Kelly, Cat Kelly, Clare Kelly & Emma Kelly

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Cat, Clare, and Emma are in the group chat. This week, the sisters debate the modern rules of posting, influencer wedding culture, and whether we're all over-curating our lives online after a Thanksgiving conversation somehow turns into a millennial versus Gen Z showdown. Cat is then put to the test with a Gen Z slang quiz featuring words she'd rather never hear again. Plus, Zendaya's The Odyssey press tour, Matt Damon's unexpected glow-up, and why the internet should maybe calm down.

SPEAKER_03

Hey y'all. Hey, hey. How are we doing?

SPEAKER_02

Hey sisters. Great. Hey sisters.

SPEAKER_03

How is everyone's day going? Great.

SPEAKER_02

Just kidding. No, it's fine. Just counting down the days till I go on sabbatical.

SPEAKER_03

How many days are we at again until you do that?

SPEAKER_02

August the first week of August. So August 5th, I start. So the 31st or something is like my last day. That's so strong. And then I get a month off. So I cannot wait. That's crazy. I'm so jealous. How can you do that? If you're at the company for seven years, you get you've been there for seven years? My anniversary is on Thursday. That's crazy.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah. Oh my god. That's a long time. Um, Emma, is there a community you would like to introduce us to behind you?

SPEAKER_01

Oh, you mean like this is my my people back here?

SPEAKER_03

Your people.

SPEAKER_01

Um, my people. I'm missing a marshmallow. If you don't know jelly cats, for like the millennial people, they are like the Gen Z beanie babies. We have this one, this pig that was from camp. Um you bring one of them closer. Oh yeah. Which one?

SPEAKER_02

The popcorn? The giraffe intrigues me. No, actually, I changed my mind. The the like pink dragon.

SPEAKER_01

After I just dismantled my people, you're gonna ask.

SPEAKER_02

I I'm sure you'll be able to do that.

SPEAKER_01

I haven't come up with a name up with a name, but I'm thinking what's the name of the dragon from Shrek 2? That's she like donkey. I think her name is Dragon.

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Okay.

SPEAKER_03

No, no, no.

SPEAKER_01

No, that's the princess babe.

SPEAKER_03

When Donkey hooks up with the dragon, yeah. I'm pretty sure I don't think they like hook can I do that children hook up? Like let's not get several children together. I don't know the yep, we don't have to say geographics, but that's not the geographic. Geographics.

SPEAKER_02

So these are the Gen Z beanie baby.

SPEAKER_01

Yes, they're a jelly cat. So a lot of people have them, and you're probably thinking, Oh, you're of a certain age. Are we still doing the stuffed animal thing? Yes.

SPEAKER_03

I won't show what's on my bed, but uh I'm not judging.

SPEAKER_01

I'm not judging, I'm just not like a stuffed animal person. No, you have like your one centimeter fabric baby blanket, baby blankets.

SPEAKER_02

I mean while six that's sadly long gone.

SPEAKER_01

No, really.

SPEAKER_03

That's ooh, that's really upsetting.

SPEAKER_02

I just like Zara.

SPEAKER_03

I know I'm I have my squishmallows, which I'm partial to a squishmallow.

SPEAKER_01

Can you tell everyone the name of your squishmallows?

SPEAKER_03

So my so my squishmallows are I have a squishmallow and then a weighted stuffed animal from Target. It's actually it's from Amazon, but they sell them at Target. It's um an elephant, and its name is Dory. However, the root of the name is Dorian from one of my favorite books, thrown up.

SPEAKER_01

I forgot about that.

SPEAKER_03

And then one of the squishmallows is Maurice, but his nickname is obviously Reese. Duh.

SPEAKER_02

Duh. So for those who don't know, what is that in reference to?

SPEAKER_03

Reese is in reference to A Court Thorns and Roses book two, specifically. Mist and Fury. It's just like to this day the best book I've ever read. If you haven't read it, um You're Living Under a Rock.

SPEAKER_02

Throne of Glass or A Court of Thorns and Roses series series.

SPEAKER_03

This is this is really hard because A Court of Thorns and Roses will just always have a really special place in my heart. The way that book made me feel. Oh Emma stays strapped with her Coca-Cola. I saw you try to drink that off screen. On the body at all times. Anyway, as you were saying. Yeah, Emma's like, please. But they're just different books. A Court of Thrones and Roses is true romantic, more smuddy. I don't think there's there's one sex scene in Throne of Glass. It's it's really crazy. And that's why I couldn't get through it.

SPEAKER_01

See, I always call it like a thorn of misty roses, like which is close. It sort of might as well be the same book.

SPEAKER_03

I can't believe you haven't. Emma, Emma does not fuck with the fantasy worlds.

SPEAKER_01

No, you know what I do. I've been trying to like dip my toe into it, but I just don't you you don't know me. You don't see me on a day-to-day basis. I just don't like the way that some of the book covers um are. Like sometimes I no, I just I know that's terrible in judging a book by its cover, but it's there's I don't I don't know how to describe it. It's like a weird thing aesthetically. No, I'll I'll definitely try it.

SPEAKER_03

Um I mean, we're reading some pretty horrendous book books with really terrible book covers. I got seen less men on my on my bookshelf over here.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. No, I mean, and some of like the cartoon covers are great. I respect all the artists, but some of them I'm just like, oh some improvement.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, just a little that's fair to each their own, give it a shot. If you're I will, I will. Um I wish I could tap back into this part of myself that would read books the way I did during that phase of my life, but but that was verging on healthy, right?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah. You don't have that dog in you anymore. I don't have that dog in me anymore to read like an eight book series in two months. That's just not really realistic.

SPEAKER_01

I've been keeping up with your good reads.

SPEAKER_03

I feel like you've been I haven't been keeping up with my good reads, but real like until a month ago, I posted one update. Yeah. I I posted some updates.

SPEAKER_02

I finished my book that I was trying to finish uh over the weekend finally, and I started Dolly all the time. So we'll report back.

SPEAKER_03

Yes, if we both finished that, it's good. I know. I didn't really, I really didn't read as much as I would have liked over this past week. I took the week off kind of hard. I know. I took the week off, spent some time with sweet Andrew, who also took the week off. So I just like sweet Andrew. I wasn't really prioritizing my reading list.

SPEAKER_02

He this is Claire's new boyfriend who was introduced to the almost entire family this past weekend. No, we ticked every box. I know you met Emma, but like all at once. Oh, I think the remaining members of the family all at once came to our mom's 65th birthday, was put on the spot to make a speech by our dad. So just really throwing him into the fire.

SPEAKER_03

And he did great. So for a wonderful job. For our family dynamic is, I mean, I'm a crier, and like we'll talk about things, but we're not really a sappy sit around the table and share our feelings kind of family. Would you like to do that?

SPEAKER_01

I'm agree with like it depends on who you're talking about. I think some people you can do that with, but I don't think we're completely like we can't talk about certain things.

SPEAKER_03

We're not like the we're not like yeah, no, definitely not. We're not toxic Irish Catholic in that way. But we just basically why I say it was an unusual occurrence because our dad gets up to make this speech toast for our mom, this birthday dinner. He starts really crying, and I have seen him cry maybe twice in my life, and it was just so emotional. And then he was like, Everyone make a speech, and everyone did, and it was just it was I was moved. Yeah, is it weird that I was like kind of nervous to speak in front of everyone?

SPEAKER_02

No, I was nervous, high stakes, high stakes.

SPEAKER_03

I was like, Whoa, I don't like being put on the spot like this. I don't like being put on the spot. I also kind of blacked out and the food started coming in while I was talking, so I was just like, and that's it, because I'm not gonna say the rest of what I wanted to say in front of strangers.

SPEAKER_02

And I just was like emotional and couldn't get through what I was saying because I was like crying. So yeah, yeah, not I wouldn't say, yeah, I wouldn't classify our family as the quintessential Irish Catholic, doesn't talk about feelings because we definitely do, and I feel like we're very, for the most part, pretty forthcoming when talking about feelings, or if someone has a problem with someone. Um, but and also if you think about it, this is actually interesting to understand if like most families are like this, but we don't hang up the phone or leave each other or leave the house without saying, I love you. Like yeah, like millions of love yours. Claire could be going out the door to get something from the car, and or I could be leaving to get some those. It's more like if I'm leaving to get something from the car and Claire, I love you. You're like, I love you. I'm like, oh, I'm just going down the room. You're like, I'll literally be back in two seconds. So I feel like that's like a tick we all have, or something.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, I think for some people it's like a trauma response to you a little bit. There's some trauma response, like fear of you know, the last thing, God forbid.

SPEAKER_03

I you know what it's more like catastrophic anxiety. This could be the last thing I'm saying to this person. So, like, gotta say love you.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, where the context does that come from? I don't even know.

SPEAKER_01

Um it's like catastrophic intrusive thoughts, Winnain.

SPEAKER_03

No, I know, but why do we all have I know it's so weird? I don't know. I'll never forget doing it one time. This was years ago now. I saw one of my high school guy friends on the street with his new girlfriend, and I was like, oh my god, it's like so nice to meet you. We were chatting, and then I was walking away kind of in a hurry, and I was like, all right, bye, I love you so much. And I was like, if I was a girlfriend, honestly, the second I said it, I was like, that was so annoying of me. If that was me and someone said that to my boyfriend in front of me, I just it would kind of be on site. What?

SPEAKER_02

Oh, yeah, yeah. I just thought of a really scarring story. Oh my god, tell that directly relates to this instinctive tick that we all have to say, I love you to our family members, no matter where they're going. Um, which a lot of my friends know and still like to make fun of me to this day, but honestly, it's so good looking back in hindsight. I had a boyfriend in high school, young high school, who shall rename remain nameless. Rename. Runez May. Renezme, Anastasia Beverly Hills. Totally. Um, and I was at his house, whatever, didn't have my license yet, so my dad has to pick me up. And I dad texts me, he's like, I'm outside, and I'm on the phone. Okay, sorry. I can't talk about a conversation without being discussing a phone conversation without also. Why is my phone this?

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, what is it? Why are you doing this? Why do I do this? What is that?

SPEAKER_02

I don't know. I'm like, I don't do this, I do this.

SPEAKER_03

That millennial, babe. Millennial mama.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, but I don't even think millennials do this. I think they do this.

SPEAKER_03

They do this. I know this. What's your phone?

SPEAKER_01

That's mine too.

SPEAKER_03

Baby, that's my phone.

SPEAKER_01

When people say hashtags, sometimes I'll I'll hit them with the pound sign.

SPEAKER_03

I'm not not ever doing that. I'm just I just say when I was on the phone with someone. I don't find myself miming a phone call when I was on the phone.

SPEAKER_02

Okay, anyway. So I'm on the phone with dad. And hey, I'm outside. I'm like, I'm like, okay, I'm coming, be there in two minutes. Love you, bye. I hang up with him. I turn to said boyfriend and give him a hug and a smooch. And because I was just talking to dad and I said that thing, I'm like, okay, love you, bye. And I turn around and leave, and I'm like, oh god, what did I just do? Like slow motion walking to the car. I was like, oh, and he said it back. Oh, ah, did you feel that way about him? He he giggled and was like, he was like, Oh, love you too. And I was oh fuck my life. Oh my god. So I walked to the car and I got in, and I just was slouching. I was like, Don't speak to me. I can't. And you know, when you wake up the next morning and you forgot about something, and then you remember the horribly embarrassing thing you did, and you're like, it just hits you like a bullet. So then I I had texted him that night immediately after I left. Once I was in the car with dad, I'm really sorry I didn't mean to say that because I was like, that's crazy. We haven't been dating that long.

SPEAKER_03

How long had you been dating? It sounds like you were children.

SPEAKER_02

We were children, and I don't recall, maybe two months or something. That's appropriate children time, I think. And he was like, No worries, I figured. And I was like, Okay, great, can we just forget about it? Do you think he meant it? No, I think he fully said it to me to make me feel better, which was very kind of him, I will say. He could have been nice, he could have been a dick and just been like, Okay, bye, and made me feel even worse. But he definitely said it to unless he loved me, which like totally plausible too. But like I'm sure he did. I think he I think he just tried to make me feel better, but that was a good time, anyways. Always come back to that embarrassing story.

SPEAKER_03

Shout out to you. Speaking of embarrassing stories, this just reminded me of this. Never forget the time in Nantucket. It was me, Emma, our cousins, Charlotte, and Lila were all going to get ice cream, and I had been like kind of smooching this boy over the summer and had stolen a sweatshirt without his knowledge from his house because I was chilly. And which sue me, whatever. Chili, chili, cozy, cozy. Chili, chili, cozy, cozy. And I we're going to get ice cream. I happened to throw it on, and it's not just a generic sweatshirt, it's his college and like a lacrosse number, and his name is on it. And we get out of the car, and we're walking to get ice cream, and I just hear someone yell, nice sweatshirt, and I turn around, it's literally the guy I stole the sweatshirt from.

SPEAKER_01

I would be crawling out of my skin.

SPEAKER_03

So mortified, Charlotte was howling. She thought it was the funniest thing ever. What did you say?

SPEAKER_01

I don't even remember. Actually, I think I do remember that.

SPEAKER_03

I was just like, Sorry, I'll give it back. I never did, obviously. No, that's a rite of passage. Stealing sweatshirts and good clothes and everything wearing them. Mom and our parents are closing in on selling our childhood home. And mom texted Emma and I, and she was like, What do I do with all the sweatshirts? And it's obviously she could donate them, get rid of them, but it's just they're such a time capsule. It's kind of sad.

SPEAKER_02

You gotta keep some. Are you a hoarder like Megan?

SPEAKER_03

I'm not a hoarder, but it's just it's so fun to look at these sweatshirts and be like, oh my god. Emma's a horse. I know what's behind that camera screen. I know what's on the other side of that wall.

SPEAKER_01

Hell no. I don't need some type A biatches being like, oh my god. Why is that there? Why is that there? You have too much.

SPEAKER_03

I just want to Marie Kondo your ass, you know?

SPEAKER_01

I you know what? I did that today at work downstairs because it looked like someone, the store got hit with a freight train. Yeah. So I reorganized for basically the whole day while I was listening to this podcast about a scam artist. Cause what like what else do you want to do?

SPEAKER_03

What else do you do? Yep.

SPEAKER_01

Um, so that was great. So I got kind of that out of my system. But I have this thing where it's I want to find cute vintage clothing for for Belle and Georgie, and obviously for it has to be, sorry, or for myself, for my daughters. Like, who doesn't want like a vintage archival wardrobe that's chic? But you don't need to buy it for a six-year-old right now. I'm no, not a six-year-old. I'm buying it for myself, but I have great finds, and I want them to enjoy that, you know, with the intention of hand-me-downs.

SPEAKER_03

I see. Speaking of Emma's like archival fashion obsession, one thing I would like to address is the press tour that's been going on for the Odyssey. Obviously, Zendaya and and Hathaway, but specifically, specifically Matt Damon and how he's been looking.

SPEAKER_01

It's not even about the outfits, it's just he aged, he has aged like fine mind. Also, he's always been fine. Yeah. He's not very problematic. Do you haven't seen Knock on Wedd? Do you haven't seen his family in the tabloids?

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

He has all daughters.

SPEAKER_02

He's a Boston boy. He's a stand-up guy. Yes, Matt Davin looks fantastic. He's having major glow-up because he got in such sick shape. I feel like he's now has this whole aura about him. But I can't get over Zendea. Like she's remarkable. Is did you see the New York outfit?

SPEAKER_03

Yeah. Okay. So with the wings? Wait, the one from today? Yes. Wait, stop. I'm looking it up right now.

SPEAKER_01

The New York premiere. But I think it's so she um, I don't know if she's trying to model the outfit after the character she's playing, which is I'm blanking on the goddess that she is, but it also reminded me of that statue in the Louvre of the woman. It's like all white. Ooh, I think I know what you're talking about.

SPEAKER_03

And like the rippling. I mean, this is crazy. She looks incredible.

SPEAKER_01

She looks amazing. And the hair is so good.

SPEAKER_02

So I love the hair. She purposely did like a paired makeup down, like naked look, which I liked because the dress and the hair are kind of speaking for themselves. But she's just she can't miss. I've never really seen her wear an outfit I didn't like.

SPEAKER_03

The only miss I have ever seen from her was the most recent Spider-Man press thing she did. She was in this very Sherry Hill looking two-piece in Spider-Man colors. It was striped. It's like a rhinestone two-piece or sequel two-piece.

SPEAKER_01

I think that's a 1990s archival pole or something.

SPEAKER_03

Like a teenager in it in a very immature way.

SPEAKER_01

Honestly, she could wear a paper, paper bag. She could do no wrong. And also her and law Roach. I just feel like the poles that they have and the pieces that they have are so good every single time. In Hathway 2 looks great.

SPEAKER_02

Oh my god. Props to her. She's pregnant and she looks in she almost looks like better. Yeah. I'm like, what is it? She looks ethereal. Yeah. She needs to be studied. She looks the my I think my favorite. I mean, the look tonight is amazing, but the brown leather dress that she wore. Oh my god. She looks ridiculous.

SPEAKER_03

She looks so good. Looks stunning. I'm really excited for the Dune Press tour. I think that's going to be bananas. We have so many good people on that tour. She's going to be on it. Timmy and Anya Taylor Joy is going to be on it. Obviously. Law used to dress her too, so I wonder if he's going to do both of them.

SPEAKER_01

He used to dress Ariana Grande and then she switched. And now he's also dressing her. So I don't know. I think she's with a new stylist, but I could be. Yeah. And then also Robert Pattinson, but I feel like he just wears suits, but I still love him.

SPEAKER_03

Oh my god. Side note, you know what video came up on my. I was looking through my saved TikToks the other day. And the video that Emma posted over Thanksgiving. Kat wasn't with us for Thanksgiving. She was with Callan's family, regretfully. Emma recorded, Emma's always recording, kind of in the background. She's sort of our secret camera woman. Emma recorded this video of Aaron and I having a discussion about Gen Zs and Millennials, which is honestly a good topic for us to get into. But it's Gen Zs and Millennials, Aaron. I forget what how it came up, but Aaron and I are essentially debating what is the difference between Gen Z's and millennials. And it was like an innocent conversation in my mind.

SPEAKER_02

But it came up because of the the posting. I think it came up because you were talking about or reacting to my Instagram posts.

SPEAKER_03

Oh, yeah. Right. You're right. Kat was at a football game, and when she goes to like a fun event, she loves to post a little recap, but it's not really a recap. Her stories, she posts so many stories that it like, you know, the little bar on the top. It we're we're getting to dot status. It's crazy. And so I was expressing this, and Aaron was like, I don't get it. And so I just had to explain. Explain how it was so millennial of Kat to be posting this many Instagram stories. And then Aaron was like, I don't get why it's millennial. And then we got into this whole conversation about it, this debate about it. And it kind of went viral on Emma's TikTok. Not viral, but it got like 50k views or something.

SPEAKER_01

People were pissed for all these like random ass people.

SPEAKER_03

I was getting dragged in the fucking comments. Claire was getting I had a full-blown panic attack. I was getting screamed.

SPEAKER_01

You can't go back and look at it because it's only for the people that I follow, or maybe it's only I can see it. We can send it back to public, but but I just think it's funny because people take stuff online so personally, and it can't be a funny joke. And they immediately will go to a person that they think they can target and be rude towards. And you're like, you have like, don't just don't comment. I just don't understand what you're saying.

SPEAKER_02

If you go that route, and they were trying to be like, unless someone's being truly malicious about something, to attack them like that is psychotic.

SPEAKER_03

They were being so mean. I'm gonna read some of these comments.

SPEAKER_01

They were crazy. I was oh I was so pissed.

SPEAKER_03

Oh, this one I I call that mine. I was like, I'm having a panic attack. Delete this. Why does the quote unquote younger one look 15 years older? I was like, fuck you guys. That is so mean. I'd love to show you what you look like person. Chose to not wear makeup to Thanksgiving dinner. Huge mistake. Why does the one in pajamas look younger than the one trying to explain social media? Bitch, I'm wearing a silk skirt and like cashmere top.

SPEAKER_02

You just don't get it. I wasn't even there to defend myself, though.

SPEAKER_01

Well, it was so funny. They immediately were like, oh my god, Gen Z's are always coming after. Um it's crazy. Millennials. They're doing it as a joke.

SPEAKER_02

It's it's it's totally a joke, but I need you to explain it to me again. Why is it inaccurate in your eyes to post multiple stories?

SPEAKER_03

It's not that it's inaccurate.

SPEAKER_02

It's just give me the playbook.

SPEAKER_03

I I'm trying to even explain it. I think there's just something, and I think what the millennials on the tech talk got really offended by, they just took it really personally, and it's not that deep, but you could post your stories, but I think there's something to be said about let's just pick a few. I don't really need to care about your whole life dump. I don't need to see your life.

SPEAKER_02

So that's an interest okay. So that's an interesting comment though, coming from a generation who documents their entire lives for a living on the internet. Like there's something to be said, not you, but there's something to be said for how we've transitioned from an era of living in the moment and making memories and just taking pictures to keep for yourself to, and I mean, obviously, I do this taking pictures to like document on Instagram. But I feel like you were also commenting on the way that I post, like Megan. Megan, I would say, is no quintessential millennial poster.

SPEAKER_03

You had a really bad one this week, and I bit my tongue. Oh my god, I think this is a better way to put it. It's it's more so the way you post, it's just the way I think the content is presented. Like Joey posted this random picture of Kat in a grocery store. And Kat repos, which is also crazy. This is where you and I are so different. You repost everything. I mean, you're beautiful, so you don't really look like shit frequently, but you repost, you're hitting that repost button. I am rarely ever hitting that repost button once in a blue moon. Kat reposts this like no offense, fugazi photo of her in a grocery store. She's not told that I looked glowing, so thanks. She's not even looking at the camera, she's like, in the photo.

SPEAKER_02

Joey posted the colour.

SPEAKER_03

I thought it was a funny thing. Shout out Pip and Anchor. Shout out Pip and Anchor. And this is the grocery store they were at in Nantucket. And Kat reposted, she was like, classic photo your brother would post. And I was like, what is this?

SPEAKER_01

I mean, then you're I feel like you're you're kind of giving into the obviously I knew it was so Megan core. No, it totally was. And I honestly I love the way that Megan posts, and I know some people will give her shit for it, but I think on Instagram too, there's definitely some gen Z rules about you want to be more mysterious and whatever, and so you want to give it away. Let's tap into that.

SPEAKER_02

I think like that's what you can't be you can't be mysterious at the same time as documenting your whole life on the internet. Like the two just don't mix. Like you have to delay.

SPEAKER_01

But for the people who don't, who aren't on social media for a living, they can be mysterious if they want to be mysterious. I totally understand if you're talking about somebody whose job it is to be on social media, but again, it's like you also have to not care as much. Then you should just unfollow people if you really care that you're posting more than one story. Like who cares?

SPEAKER_02

That's why I post because I don't care what you say.

SPEAKER_01

You're like mom who when mom has. I think it's funny.

SPEAKER_02

I'm gonna fucking post it. Laugh or don't laugh, I don't care.

SPEAKER_01

Mom's like, I don't get why this person followed me. I don't really know that. I'm like, mom, you just don't.

SPEAKER_03

You don't know that's like mom also is that's a valid question. That is mom is so specific with her likes too. If a person she knows that posts is not always gonna get that like, she's not gonna double.

SPEAKER_02

I gotta say, I'm guilty of that. Interesting.

SPEAKER_03

Talk a little bit about that.

SPEAKER_02

I am I'm scrolling, but I sometimes I just forget to like it.

SPEAKER_03

That's fair. I think we're moving away from the likes in college or even right out of college. It was post, likes, everyone go comment on my post. Now it's just kind of like, all right, whatever. I post one Instagram a year and and kind of call it a day.

SPEAKER_02

So one specific trend that really intrigues me that I feel has I don't know if it's like Gen Z or what, but the trend of instead of posting pictures of people on Instagram, it's like, let me post a picture of a shack and a flower and X-Y's. You're talking about my story and a coffee cup to be all aesthetic y. And it's those things are beautiful, but I'm kind of following you to get insight into you don't want to see the beautiful shack I walked past. Yeah, sure. I'll I'll see a shack, but when I when I see people's stories that are if they do a photo dump and it's a photo dump of all aesthetic pictures and not a single picture with a person in it, I'm kind of like, okay.

SPEAKER_03

Maybe they're just like, maybe they don't like themselves in pictures.

SPEAKER_02

I highly doubt that because their historical photos would say otherwise. I just think it's there's this pressure to be like, I have to fit into a certain aesthetic for the time. So I'm gonna do it. And so I'm gonna post my ugly, funny pictures and pictures of people, and y'all can make fun of me, but I'm gonna keep doing it.

SPEAKER_01

I mean, I totally respect it. I think if you're getting to a point where you care that much about the way you're posting, then it's time to delete the app. But I like I that was a subtle dig.

SPEAKER_02

Thank you so much.

SPEAKER_03

No, she's saying on the other.

SPEAKER_01

No, I'm not saying that to you. I'm saying to people who are like the as well. Oh, I thought you were saying me. I was like, okay. No, I mean, I for me, I get people who do that because they're picky or whatever, but you just it's getting to a point where we can't be so calculated about what people think on social media. That's when you have to say, if I care that much, someone's gotta put me in a white padded room.

SPEAKER_02

It's getting to be a little too crazy. Completely random, but you know, so you guys know about my posting habits and multiple stories. When I didn't post for a while on my honeymoon of multiple stories, I got DMs being like, Where are the updates? Like, I want the stories. This was the content I was asking for. And I was like, Okay, so your friends who are also millennials who know you're going to be a millennial. My demo audience isn't you guys.

SPEAKER_03

And you were giving the people what you wanted. I was excited. I was like, let's go, fucking dumb time.

SPEAKER_02

I know I will say when I really feel like a millennial is when I do a story and I do the text box that is the color background and like a phrase. And I know this is chewy, but I don't even I don't know another way to do it.

SPEAKER_03

That's what was the grocery store story that was the blog classic older brother post. Like it was so funny. I kind of thought it was I'm being a dick, I'm being a harsh critic. You're such a dick. I'm such a dick. No, I I'm just curious, honestly. I admire how candid you are on Instagram. You know, I care way too much. It's like a balance between I care way too much, but I also can't be bothered to sit here and be like, it takes years off my life trying to be like, should I post on Instagram? What am I gonna post on Instagram? I have to go through all these pictures.

SPEAKER_02

It's really a hassle. I had my honeymoon post on my literal to-do list in my phone here for five like legit two months. I'm not kidding. It was a to-do list title. It was a to-do list item, and it was haunting me. And then one day I was like, I need to just post it before I get to the six-month mark because that won't be acceptable, and the statute of limitations will happen.

SPEAKER_01

I'm sorry to the people out there, but I'm so happy you got married, but I don't need to see 20 photos from your wedding unless you were in the south of France. Sorry, I don't mean to be rude.

SPEAKER_03

No, the thing that the thing that kills me is the 20 grid posts. Post as many fucking stories as well.

SPEAKER_01

No, sorry, not the story thing, it's the grid post. It's the grid posts.

SPEAKER_02

I have a few, I have my grid right now is taken up a lot by wedding stuff, but a lot of it is reposts from vendors when they do a shared Instagram. Yeah. That fine. And if there's anything about me, you're right. I am a loyal reposter. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Well, I love that. I mean, you're supporting the company and you're getting people. See, I really agree.

SPEAKER_02

There is a fine line, Emma, between posting too much about your wedding and also I think there's a specific time period in which you can. If it's over a year later and you're still posting pictures unless it's an anniversary, it's kind of like Jesus, we get it. You got married, you look beautiful, done.

SPEAKER_01

Like, I'm so happy for you, but at the same time, I'm just gonna scroll. I'm not gonna like that one. So sorry.

SPEAKER_03

Not that you give a fuck, but I just so this is this is the line I can't really make sense of is because I think that there is Kat's argument, like, post whatever you want, which I agree with, but at the same time, I think we're getting too lax with that, and the wedding thing just reminded me of it. And I know that everyone should be able to do whatever they want. I believe that. Like, if you want to do a whole bit, you do it. But the courthouse wedding situation amongst influencers, in my mind, has gotten a little out of control. Yeah, I know exactly what you're talking about. And it's like, what is the line between yes, do whatever you want, and also like, wow, we're really overcurating. This is this is crazy. Not everything needs to be for the gram.

SPEAKER_01

They're trying to do the dua loop, dua loop, do a dua beep, do a beep. They're trying to do the dua lipa courthouse scaparelli, and it's like, babe, you are in a non-scaparelli outfit. You can't mog like dua lipa. You can't. I apologize.

SPEAKER_02

I don't know what you just said.

SPEAKER_03

Wait, don't I I've curated a list of words I actually want to quiz Catherine on. I did too. So, oh, yes, okay. So you'll be quizzing that later. But you're right, you can't mog.

SPEAKER_01

So just And I'm not saying that you aren't beautiful or whatever, but I'm just saying sometimes you gotta accept the fact that you were an influencer. I think some influencers these days are thinking that they are like I think some people think they have four offspring.

SPEAKER_02

Plank devil's advocate. Yeah, plank devil's advocate here. Totally. I completely agree that I think it's a lot and everything has gotten a lot, but that's because I don't live in that world and I'm not an influencer. So to me, it seems really nuts in comparison to like I went to my courthouse wedding in jeans of jeans. Um looked super cute, I will say. Um, however, if it is your occupation and you are gonna get likes and brand deals or whatever out of it, I don't know. I'm kind of like, yeah, it's a lot, and I wouldn't do that, but do you? I don't know. Is it their occupation though?

SPEAKER_03

I feel like their occupation is other things. I also just think it's more wedding culture is getting so out of hand. And I just think it kind of sets a bad example. We don't like it does. Girlies are gonna be going into debt over trying to have like three weddings, like these people online. They think that they need to be having these, and everyone needs to grow up and kind of decide for themselves. But I feel like a lot of people do go by the trends, and I think it's just too much. It's getting really out of hand.

SPEAKER_02

I think this is something that us millennials can agree upon that, yes, all the events surrounding weddings, all of the other events in between, the engagement party, the bait, the the shower, the bachelorette. And I'm saying that I did most of those things. Yeah, yeah. Um, I didn't do an engagement party, technically speaking. I didn't request it, it was a surprise. Yeah, but just like all the crazy curation. Yeah, all the crazy curation of everything. It's like mini weddings before the actual event. It is a lot, it does set a dangerous expectation. It takes away from the actual meaning of the day, I feel like, but I think it's just the culture that we live in of people doing these things so that they can document them and get some elicit some type of reaction. But actually, speaking of this, I I saw a few interesting controversial questions around bachelorettes and whatnot. And one of them was someone asking, is it the bridesmaid's responsibility to pay for the bride on the vacation? What are your guys' thoughts?

SPEAKER_03

Did we do that for you? I don't really think so.

SPEAKER_02

I think absolutely not.

SPEAKER_03

I don't think so.

SPEAKER_02

I think that's kind of crazy.

SPEAKER_03

No offense. We all I I've dished a lot of cash to be here. I can't pay for you on top of it, unfortunately.

SPEAKER_02

Exactly. So that's why I was kind of confused. I was like, who thinks that the bride should be covered? Like, is this even a discussion?

SPEAKER_01

Unless I had the really good friend and she was like, Oh, my parents love you so much, and we're really I don't know. There's so as a gift or something? As a gift, I don't know, but I just think it's bizarre because unless you have money to burn, I would never expect that from anybody. I think that would be crazy.

SPEAKER_02

No, and I agree, you're already asking a lot of people to take a trip, to take time off work, to spend a lot, to go to pay for the bride, in addition to that, is obscene and just completely obtuse of someone to expect that. The only thing that I do feel like is somewhat common is people will pay for maybe one of the dinners out, you pay for the bride or something.

SPEAKER_01

Something simple to like or even like drinks or something. Yeah, like if you can't make it, pay for one of their meals, or I would send shots. Yeah, yeah, totally.

SPEAKER_03

Agreed, Emma. That is such important etiquette. If you don't, if you can't come, I think it's important to make your presence known in another way. And it doesn't need to be like bottle service, just like send a glass of champagne or something.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, yeah. That's cute. Um, other thing that I saw is like a Gen Z versus millennial trend. And Claire, this might be more of a question for you since you're starting to enter this stage of life. Is do you find that your friends are leaning more towards the wellness retreat type of bachelorettes versus clurbing and staying out really late and getting really fucked up?

SPEAKER_03

I I it's so dependent on the person. I think I think all of my I don't think any of mine are truly leaning wellness retreat by any means. I at least at this phase, maybe in a few years. But I think ours will probably be more go. I mean, nothing crazy, but going out. I mean, I kind of want to have a clubby bachelorette.

SPEAKER_01

I maybe just don't want to shake their ass in a club. Right? Thank you. Totally put it put on promiscuous. You don't, I don't speak.

SPEAKER_02

No, I literally have to do some serious planning around your bachelorette to make sure I'm not pregnant. Pregnant. I know, seriously. Because I would like to drink and I would like to dance.

SPEAKER_03

I need you, yeah. I need all my chicas like kind of shaking their thing, you know.

SPEAKER_02

I mean, I'll do I'll be doing it regardless. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

But with I just have this bitch not be able to join in on the of my brain of the gimme gimme club mix playing and like being in a club and there's confetti everywhere. Like that is my dream.

SPEAKER_01

She is confetti cannons.

SPEAKER_03

Yes. Like just as me in the clerb. Put me on a stage. Yep. God, it's like all I want to do.

SPEAKER_01

I don't know why you're not on a stage. I know.

SPEAKER_03

Still not a stripper. Actually, you know what? And The Bachelorette, who gives a fuck? I just been like a stage with an elevated surface, if you will.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, that's your time to shine. 100% it's my time to shine.

SPEAKER_01

Is that really a bad thing?

SPEAKER_02

Do you know what that means, Kat?

SPEAKER_01

Clocked.

SPEAKER_02

Do you know what I mean? I know Haley. I know Haley did this to Justin. Does it mean that's right? Um, like yeah.

SPEAKER_03

I guess it kind of is in agreement. It means clock it. Clock it. It's kind of like remember back in the day where you use snaps at something. I see you. Yes, kind of like I see you. Emma, if someone has a hot take, they're like, okay, clock it. You're clocking someone's. Yes, exactly.

SPEAKER_02

I just why do we have to come up with an entirely new dictionary?

SPEAKER_03

You don't like me saying that I'm clocking your tea?

SPEAKER_02

Because it's fun. That's just it's obnoxious.

SPEAKER_01

You have to traumatize the tr the previous generation, just like Jen Alpha is going to be Jack. Some of the stuff that he's saying to me, I'm like, don't say that.

SPEAKER_02

I don't know. I think my whole thing is sometimes when I hear people speaking the Gen Z slang terms religiously, it just sounds so brutal. Honestly, nails on a chalkboard. I'm leaving the room.

SPEAKER_03

That's I know what you mean in some senses.

SPEAKER_02

It's fun when you're when you're with your girlies and you're all just kind of around when you girls are together and you know exactly who I'm talking about, Charlotte and Lila. And you guys get going, I'm like, I have to exit the premises. We're speaking Chinese. No, you you guys are like, I wish I could speak Chinese.

SPEAKER_01

I know.

SPEAKER_02

Like clock, I don't even I don't I can't I can't even think of an example. Got him.

SPEAKER_01

We definitely say it seriously, but I would never go out in the world and say that because I would sound like a wonder bread sandwich.

SPEAKER_03

We're using it in jest, if you will.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Got it. And but then it just becomes so serious.

SPEAKER_01

It does. What are the things? What was something that when we would say, Oh my god, like you look so cunty in that, and mom was like, and mom was like, What?

SPEAKER_03

She's like, Well, Joey said to me that I was serving cunt, and mom was like, What did you just say?

SPEAKER_02

I don't mind.

SPEAKER_03

Okay, I actually love that term. I know I like that we've reclaimed it's healing. What were the other words? Let's go. We'll all say my word first, Emma, and then you can quiz Kat next. We'll each go through a list. We'll swap words. Okay. I'm ready. So my first word for you, Kat, is chat. I feel like this is Aquila in the B. Chat. That movie. I love Kiki Palmer. No, Kiki Palmer is a big thing. Contestant number one, please define person.

SPEAKER_02

Chat. Um can you can you use it in a sentence? Chat. Are you seeing this?

SPEAKER_01

Oh, I see. Okay.

SPEAKER_02

Is it like we have to talk?

SPEAKER_03

No. It's more about the it's just about the chat.

SPEAKER_02

Who are you talking to?

SPEAKER_03

Like I could read a sentence in the chat, and people would get it.

SPEAKER_02

It's time to chat. I'm fucking confused.

SPEAKER_01

Kind of? Say it clear. Say it in more of a sentence or something. I need another sentence.

SPEAKER_03

I seriously need to send you this screenshot.

SPEAKER_01

Chat, did you see Zendaya's look at the Odyssey World premiere?

SPEAKER_02

Chat, who is this? This is where I just can't with you guys. You sound ridiculous. Ridiculous.

SPEAKER_01

Ridiculous. Ridiculous.

SPEAKER_02

Ridiculous. No, honestly. You know what? Can I be mean for a second? Sure. It makes you sound extremely unintelligent.

SPEAKER_03

Good thing I'm not trying to be intelligent with my girls, you know? No, I know. I'm just saying.

SPEAKER_02

No, it's at work.

SPEAKER_03

Are people bringing the slang into the workplace? Are people bringing the slang into the workplace? I'm slacking such a millennial response. Yeah, I'm slacking my boss, being like, Chad, did you did you get my email? This is just a distance of millennial talking about it. Always take. I genuinely think that you guys just kind of feel left out in anything, any of the words you guys try to take, we might give you shit for using because we just like roasting you guys. Yeah. That you just come at us with the only thing you have, which is seniority. You're like, I hope this isn't used in the workplace. Like, don't it's true.

SPEAKER_02

I don't I don't really feel left out. I'm just like used insane.

SPEAKER_03

But obviously, we're not using it out of work, you know.

SPEAKER_02

I mean, maybe some are, but maybe you two are not, but you cannot speak for everyone. I've seen some pretty obscene behavior from Gen Z in the workplace.

SPEAKER_01

I don't say six seven to my assistant manager because it pisses her that's hilarious.

SPEAKER_02

But also, so what does six what does six seven mean? I don't know. I honestly don't know at all. Is that the point? Is that the whole crux of Gen Z slang? It's like need to make up a word.

SPEAKER_03

This is Gen Alpha, it won't have meaning, and you're just gonna have to be in the dark about it. This is more Gen Alpha, I think, where they're making shit up just to be on the inside of it. Kids who are in middle school now, they probably will be speaking like that in the workplace.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, skibbity toileries is all gen alpha. Oh god. So so terms that I do know chat.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, I'll I'll chat. Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_03

What does that mean? So chat is literally just addressing a group of people. It's a basically a new way of saying guys, girls. Oh my god, you're like chat. Like if someone texted in the group chat, chat, I'd be like, I'm I'm sad. That was an unintentional rhyme. She's sad another one is I'm seated.

SPEAKER_02

I'm seated. I'm seated. So instead of it's synonymous with guys. Okay, synonymous.

SPEAKER_03

Okay, vocal word. Yeah, good for you.

SPEAKER_02

See, guys, that's a real dictionary word. Ew, I hated that. Okay, give me another one. Let's see. Chopped. That's a pretty easy one. Emma, you're that was on my list too.

SPEAKER_03

Good one.

SPEAKER_02

Chopped. Someone's really drunk. Wait, what? No. Are you kidding? Girl, you are. This has multiple meanings.

SPEAKER_03

Chopped for you're too drunk? I've never heard that.

SPEAKER_02

Who's so chopped? He's no, no, like, oh, he's so chopped.

SPEAKER_03

No. Don't say that to people. Don't say that. Chopped. Because oh my god, what is it? Oh. Like visually unappealing, right? Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Like that girl's also be that girl's chopped. It can also be used to describe someone who's really drunk and sloppy. Did you make that up or is that a thing? Nope. The other people use that.

SPEAKER_01

Who are the other people? You and your two friends, let's say. My millennial friends. Kellen actually says it a lot. Well, he's a millennial friend.

SPEAKER_03

Interesting. Is Kellen a Gen Z?

SPEAKER_02

I don't think so.

SPEAKER_03

What what what year was he?

SPEAKER_02

He's younger than me, but he's not a Gen Z, thank the Lord.

SPEAKER_01

He's like 95? Timothy Chalamet's age. Yeah, he's 95. Claire, you go next.

SPEAKER_03

Um okay, we'll bring this back. Mogging.

SPEAKER_02

When you try and steal the camera with your face. No, but kind of.

SPEAKER_01

You're you're on the right track. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

You're giving, you're giving face card. No.

SPEAKER_03

Um I mean not yes, but also not.

SPEAKER_02

So what does mogging mean? I thought I really understood it.

SPEAKER_03

Mogging is outshining or outperforming someone. Like if you're moging on someone.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, so if you're stealing the camera with your good looks.

SPEAKER_03

You're mogging on someone, or you can like it. Can't you give a mog? When you do the the Zoolander, like the Zoolander face, that's a mog.

SPEAKER_01

You know, there are a lot of celebrities that obviously mog like Zende on a carpet, on a red carpet, always gonna mog.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. Okay, now I'm rec I recall when this was used in our family chat when James, Big James, was on the ski trip with Little James, and he sent a picture of them, and literally three-fourths of the picture was Big James, and then like a little sliver was Little James, and Big James was just face moging, totally close to a smile. And Joey was like, You are face mogging him like a frat star in some mogging, mogging, looks maxing, all the things.

SPEAKER_01

He was mogging. Yeah, I like mogging better than looks maxing because looks maxing. Clavicular. Hate that man. What is looks magging?

SPEAKER_02

Just looking better. Yeah, you're just a max stylist.

SPEAKER_01

That's a man that gives way too much of a fuck about what other people think. He needs to be in therapy.

SPEAKER_02

What are your both of yours most commonly used Gen Z phrases that you use in everyday life? Give me five most used. Five?

SPEAKER_03

Ooh, I don't know if I are we considering low-key a Gen Z phrase?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, they say that. I feel like everyone puts that on the list. I think the frequency is with at which it's used is kind of I would say I use you're cooked a lot when referring at work. You know, if we have a lot of boxes and not enough people, we're cooked.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. Like you're fucked.

SPEAKER_01

I feel like that's the big one that I use. And then I say vibe, not saying it actually, but kind of in a sarcastic way.

SPEAKER_03

I don't mine are just kind of like low-key. I'm trying to think of what I say.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Like no one's really saying sleigh.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. I've heard you say that.

SPEAKER_03

I feel like not as much these days, Slay Mama. Mama, I used I went through a big phase of saying mama. Oh, I love Slay Mama. Sleigh mama.

SPEAKER_02

When we were in Paris, Claire out of nowhere said that to MC, came up to her. I don't know if it was like she was wearing an outfit or something, but she was like, Sleigh mama. But the cadence that she said it at made it perfect. She was like, What did you just say? She was horrified. No, and now I'm I I love that term, but you have to say it that way.

SPEAKER_03

You have to be like Mary Claire couldn't stop saying it the rest of the trip. That was so funny.

SPEAKER_02

You know what's a millennial Gen Z uh not phrase, but trend that I absolutely agree with, and I don't know what the hell we were thinking. And I actually just threw my pair away maybe two months ago. Skinny jeans versus baggy jeans.

SPEAKER_03

Oh skinny jeans are just offensive.

SPEAKER_02

Unless you I hope we never go back.

SPEAKER_01

No one wants to there's certain type of person that can pull off a skinny jean. Like you would have literally have just skinny legs for skinny jeans because when I would wear a white skin, no, exactly. People are are bringing that back. Up skinny jean with a sneaker wedge, like some of the younger sneaker wedge.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, that wasn't one sneaker wedges so badly.

SPEAKER_02

I know. Oh, me too. Never followed up though.

SPEAKER_03

Um, but I don't know. Just in general, I think I think I'm more Gen Z in the way that I speak sort of sarcastically, where I'm always like, mmm, totally, you know?

SPEAKER_02

Well, Joey always said it claims he claims you have voice fry.

SPEAKER_03

Me? A little bit. Oh, totally. Hundreds of totally doing things ironically. Totally, Kyle. I talk to my home friends about this all the time. I feel like it started as doing it as a joke, and then it just sticks sometimes, and it's not good. I don't know if it's vocal fry or say valley, I would hate it's a bad, but it's a lot of fun.

SPEAKER_01

But if I expect a valley accent, there are plenty of it's when I get very monotone that I'm just like, yeah.

SPEAKER_03

And you're like, when you're talking to someone and you're like, totally, and you're like, you're dead in the eyes.

SPEAKER_01

We all do okay, we all do the totally now. I feel like yeah. One thing that I love that's not really Gen Z slang, but someone made up. Shout out, Charlotte, is Bojangles or Bojonglaze.

SPEAKER_03

Bojanglazes.

SPEAKER_01

When I look in the mirror and I'm like, oh, you look bojongla.

SPEAKER_02

Okay, see, that's the kind of words that I can get behind. What are some other great freaking terms that Charlotte has come up with? Charlotte's Fugazi. Fugazi Fugazi. Which is so many. It will come to you. She kind of just breaks down words. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_03

Totally.

SPEAKER_01

Totally.

SPEAKER_02

We're gonna need to get a full list. But Bojonglaze is up there.

SPEAKER_03

Bojanglaze is up there, and yeah, I just she's so funny. But I'll I'll work on the vocal fry. I'm so happy Joey said that to you and not me. Um see, I love your vocal fry. I love your just kind of the shtick, you know? It's just sort of like my my whole voice.

SPEAKER_01

You're like a charismatic person. It's harder for people to pull off if they're reserved.

SPEAKER_03

Bit is another good one. Bit is oh, bit's a really good one. I love a good bit. Yeah, I think it just means I'm super comfortable with you if I'm slipping into my my vocal fry. This has been a fun little lesson. Can't say I'm on board with it. Class is in session anytime.

SPEAKER_01

We'll quiz you next time.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, there will be a follow-up.

SPEAKER_01

And if you don't get a 10 out of 10, then I fear is a good one.

SPEAKER_03

I fear you're cooked is a great one.

SPEAKER_02

I fear you're cooked. You okay. See, you just said it and you didn't even realize it. It's just in your vocabulary. I knew what I was saying. You guys, the I fear I love and Charlotte and Lila uses that term a lot as well.

SPEAKER_03

I fear big on the slang. Um, I think we can get into some TBLs, should we? Let's get into some TBLs. Does anyone have anything they would like to share?

SPEAKER_02

I'm currently trying nothing. I'm just trying to survive until no, kidding, not survive. I'm fine. But I'm not trying anything new right now. It's great. Actually, I played in a golf tournament, so that could be something I tried. That's amazing. Played it in my first golf tournament, was super nervous, and it ended up being totally fine. It was just a day out with the gals. Now I understand what it's all about, why these guys just want to disappear because it's a long activity, and you're just like you're outside walking with the gals, you're gabbing, and you're and you're gabbing, and it's key who the company is because you're with them for so long. And I've never golfed with friends before. It's always been my husband or my parents, pretty much, or like a sibling. And so I have to say, golfing with the girlies, pretty transformational. And I was like, okay, we're gonna have to pencil this in a bit more. And when I can finally drink, like enjoy the cocktail horse and just giggle, gaggle as we go, you know.

SPEAKER_01

Have to be like a certain type of person. I could never golf with a wet blanket, never ghost.

SPEAKER_02

I just thought of another Charlotte um ism slash word, goomdrop to describe like an child.

SPEAKER_03

I stole this from her. She's always like the scream I scrumped.

SPEAKER_02

Oh yes, yes, that's such a good hug. I love that one. See, I want to speak her Gen Z language. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Umdearing.

SPEAKER_02

It is endearing. It is not insufferable. No, it's it makes me laugh. It makes me laugh. Um, so that's what I tried. What I'm buying, these necklaces that Erin, I feel like she might have mentioned on a prior episode that we had, but they are these really cute necklaces from Lacey Ryan Jewelry.

SPEAKER_01

Ryan shout out.

SPEAKER_02

They're like, they're like beachy vibes, you know, like these kind of chunky stones, and they're all these different colors, and they're just really fun for kind of a summery beach vibe. I love it. So I bought bought some of those, and they're not too crazy. Love it. I finished this book, Dissection of a Murder. Shout out to the the Boston Bookworms, Boss Bookworms Book Club. Cute. Uh, because I got that recommendation from them, and I wasn't ecstatic about it, but I always love a good murder mystery, so I was like, I'm game. I would say it was a solid three out of five.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, okay. That's good. It's not amazing, but it's good.

SPEAKER_02

No, but it it was it was solid. I I was um I was intrigued by it.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, but yeah. I feel like yeah, I feel like we're not like a family that will give a book five stars just because, you know. No, no, if I love it, I will.

SPEAKER_03

But for me, when Andrew and I both had the week off, we did three tennis lessons. He's a really good tennis player. I do not play tennis. Um we tried. I tried being on the tennis team when I was a freshman in high school and was placed on the novice team where they would let me do some exhibition matches.

SPEAKER_01

Oh my god. Every once in a while.

SPEAKER_02

You and sports kill me.

SPEAKER_03

It's not really natural, but the lessons were great. We were paired with this guy, Guillermo, who was upset. Andrew followed him on Instagram. He was like, if there isn't a fair, it's with Guillermo, just so you know. He's so cool. And he was so he was just so helpful in teaching me all these tips and tricks. And I felt I had really improved, and he was super proud of me. So I obviously felt amazing by the end of it. Shout out Guillermo. That's amazing. So now I just need to figure out how to keep it up. Um, so that's that's on tennis, my new, my new sports. I love how you guys played. It was a lot of fun, and then loving, because I have been bricked. I have started doing audiobooks on Spotify, which the interface for audiobooks on Spotify needs to be abolished. They only allow you 15 hours a month of listening. That's stupid. That's I'm ripping through it.

SPEAKER_01

It's so annoying. Sometimes, if you speed up the audio, you'll get less hours with an audiobook because it's smart. It shrinks down, but also they're like, Yeah, we actually want you to pay an additional $11.99.

SPEAKER_03

And to me, it's like, okay, go jump off of okay, but they make you pay an additional eleven ninety nine, they only give you 15 more hours, it's not unlimited. So I just had to buy an additional ten dollar add-on so I could listen to Harry Potter. So, all of this to say, I'm listening to the Harry Potter audiobooks obsessed on Spotify. And I listened to the first one just as kind of like a joke at first, and then obviously I got so sucked in. They're incredible, they're so good. I highly recommend it. So I'm on book two. I'm kind of almost done with that. I'm sort of flying through. That's my trying, loving, and buying. Um, hoping to not buy much in the coming weeks. I would like to buy that necklace that you mentioned, actually. So, and I think I'm gonna buy those shoes that you have, those Margot shoes that I saw you wearing in Nintucket. Margot, the brown ones. Margot is a shoe brand, and they have these cute suede sandals that I think we're gonna buy.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, the Doen sale, warehouse sale. Today. Bummer. Um, um okay. Um, what do you have? Trying um to not get the that new virus from lettuce.

SPEAKER_03

Oh, the diarrhea thing.

SPEAKER_01

The diarrhea thing, because I've been sick this past couple weeks. Buying, I would have to say the Tillamook chocolate ice cream. Like, inject that into my veins, please.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, agreed on that.

SPEAKER_01

I miss the brigham so much. Sometimes I think about driving the two hours to a grocery store in Massachusetts and getting one.

SPEAKER_02

But don't you think that the Tillamook chocolate is a very comparable alternative to Brigham's chocolate? Like they taste very similar.

SPEAKER_01

They do, but I just think it's you know how like for men, like they'll crack a cold one open. Like, there's nothing better than cracking open a Brigham's frosted ice cream out of the fridge.

SPEAKER_03

I'm finding out that they only sell brigham's in Massachusetts.

SPEAKER_02

They're the Massachusetts company, it's or maybe they're but Tillamook is a good alternative because I honestly like I really hate a chocolate ice cream that's too rich and too chocolatey. And I think Tillamook and Brigham's do it right because it's uh it's more milky. You know what I mean? That has honestly that has been one of my top pregnancy cravings is a good old Brigham's chocolate in a cute.

SPEAKER_01

You're not like the the the pickle dipped in cot fudge. Like some people think of it.

SPEAKER_02

No, no.

SPEAKER_01

That's not your journey.

SPEAKER_02

That would make me sad. That's not my journey.

SPEAKER_01

Um, and then loving. I've been what listening to this crazy podcast about this. I maybe don't want to call her Grifter, like that's a little bit rude, but she's basically the con artist. It's called The Coco Birthman Story. It's a Deer Media podcast. It's from two years ago, anyway. She alleged that her mom trafficked her when she was a kid. But I won't get into all the details, I don't want to spoil it. But um, what's it called?

SPEAKER_02

I'm gonna listen.

SPEAKER_01

The Coco Birthman story, I think it's called.

SPEAKER_02

Okay.

SPEAKER_01

And but I really love when a podcast is done by an investigative reporter because I think they're so articulate with how they do the investigating. And I'm picky with that because they go into detail. They have the side investigators, whatever, and you get all these different perspectives. I'm almost done. It's really good.

SPEAKER_03

Well, on that note, so fun hanging with you girls, as always. Cat. It's been real and it has been fun.

SPEAKER_01

I'm trying to think of when I'll see everyone next. Kat, it's gonna be a little bit longer. Claire next week, sister.

SPEAKER_03

See each other. We'll see each other around the block. Love y'all, all right. Love y'all. Bye.