4. Fresh Out Retirement ft. Taji Burris

The Big Dreams show has its first guest! This week, we welcome Taji Burris to the show to talk about politics, rap, wrestling, and more. 

Taji Burris is a media professional with over a decade of experience. He has built a career spanning journalism, podcasting, and digital media. As a credited news reporter for The Baltimore Banner, Taji has covered a variety of topics, including Baltimore’s arts and culture. He was also a founder and host of multiple significant media platforms, including The Working Title Podcast and For The Record. He's also one of BDJ's oldest friends in real life. Not on podcast mics. Really, elementary school sandbox sh*t with these guys. 💯

Transcript

SPEAKER_03 0:00

Yo man. Just wanted to send you a shout out. Let you know I really appreciate your podcast, man. I just got the episode too. And yeah, man, I I really just enjoy sitting down and listening to you, man. You know, if it feels like, you know, you right here in the in the passenger seat with me, man, when I'm out on my route at my job. So, you know, I just wanted to give you a general shout shout out, man, and just send you love. And uh also to answer your question, the ocean is definitely way scarier because space excites me because of how much there is like unknown, but it's not on earth. But the ocean is scarier because everything that's in there is like right on earth.

SPEAKER_02 0:53

So yeah, the ocean definitely will be scarier to to live in and just find back to another week.

SPEAKER_01 1:34

This is episode four of the big dream show, the voice we hear right now. And yeah, I'm I'm excited about this episode, man. I'm I'm excited about this episode for a couple of reasons. For one, the topics we're gonna get to, but for two, we gotta we got a very special guest in the building, a very special guest. I'm gonna I'm gonna read off the the bio, but without further ado, we got my brother Taji in the building. Taji Burris, I'll I'll read the official tissue bio because we're a real official podcast over here. Taji Burris is a media professional with over a decade of experience. He has built a career spanning across journalism, podcasting, and digital media. As a credit news reporter for the Baltimore Banner, Taji has covered a variety of topics, including Baltimore's arts and culture. He was also a founder and host of multiple significant media platforms, including the Work and Title Podcast and for the record. My brother, how you feeling?

SPEAKER_06 2:30

Man, I'm blessed, bro. I'm excited to be here. I appreciate you know, you know, bringing me out retirement for one day only. You know, I'm just excited to be here with you, bro. Thanks for thanks for sending the invite. Yes, sir.

SPEAKER_01 2:40

Why G Type, fresh out of retirement.

SPEAKER_06 2:42

Yes, yes, indeed. I was about to actually rap the lyrics, but yeah, I want to be too, yeah, man.

SPEAKER_01 2:48

Let's give them a banger one time. Yeah. Let's give him a banger. But like I said, bro, hair right and shotgun. So we're about to get into a bunch of topics. A lot of folks have hit me up, and I've hit a lot of folks up on some guest shit. So just know that time is coming. I wanted to be intentional about the first couple episodes, just making sure that I did it myself, had my voice out there front and center, got my rhythm, got everything I would need to be before I started incorporating guests. And I also don't want this to turn to a platform that's relying on guests. I want to be able to stand on my my own ten toes, because say it's a week, say it's a guest-only show, and it's a week I don't got a guest. And don't ain't no producer in here for me to go back and forth with. I am the producer, I am the engineer, I am the host, so yeah. But I feel like we at that point. Just some housekeeping before we get into the main show. Um, show was gonna release on Fridays. I know last week's episode dropped on Thursday. That was due to the subject. I was talking about WrestleMania, and WrestleMania was happening on Saturday. So if I released it on Friday, it only would have had like a one-day shelf life before half of the shit I said was irrelevant. So go back and enjoy that if you still want a primer and just a little bit of an understanding of wrestling, that type of shit. But yeah, Fridays, probably gonna be dropping some bonus episodes here and there as my schedule allows. Semester is finishing up soon, so schedule should be opening up to be doing more, you know, more creative things. Also, y'all heard at the top of voicemail, shout out to my brother Corey Lowry. We have the voicemail line open. You can send a voicemail or you can send a text message. The link is right in the bio of the podcast episodes, as well as there's a website for the podcast. It's I'm gonna say it's the bigdreamshow.buzzsprout.com. It's in my Instagram bio. But I say that because if you send a voicemail or a text message, your message will not only get played or read on the show, but it'll also go up on that little Hall of Fame fan page over there. So real dope, real dope, real excited, real happy to keep building this thing. Official, my boy, official tissue. I like that. Yeah, man. Buzzsprout changed a lot. I ain't gonna lie, they stepped their shit up. That's what's they stepped that membership fee up too. That's about to say, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 4:51

I bet the money comes with it too.

SPEAKER_01 4:53

Yeah, come with the game, come with the game. We're still looking for ads and sponsors, if y'all wondering. So, before we get into it, y'all know how we start every episode with the ground rules. If you've been here before, you can skip ahead like 30, 40 seconds. But if this is your first time here, first of all, welcome. Happy to have you. Second, there are a couple rules that govern how we how we kind of operate here at the Big Dream Show. Rule number one, ground rule number one, as always, the thoughts are strictly my own and do not reflect the views of any family, friends, partners, affiliates, or associates. Ground rule number two, we use vulgar language, I say bad words. If you're not in a place where you can listen to this without headphones and not get a dirty look at somebody saying, fuck, probably should recalibrate how you do it, you know. If you are in them cool parents where your kids listen to young boy and shit in the backseat at elementary school age, preschool age, then you know, feel free. I'm I'm fucking with it. But if not, you know, might wanna might want to reassess when you listen to this bad boy. Number three, follow me. I guess that for this episode is gonna be follow us, but always give the disclaimer the way that my brain works is not typical. I make a lot of connections, I go a lot of different places, but it all makes sense in the end. Um we're in a generation where you can do things passively, but you cannot pay attention, you can kind of be one foot in, one foot out. If you do that with me, there's a big chance that you're gonna get lost in the conversation and look up like what the fuck is this nigga talking about? So I ask that you follow me, pay attention, listen. Yeah, just rock with me. Number four, tell me if I'm tripping. On that same token, right? If you're listening to me and I say some bullshit, I say something that's out of bounds, I say something that you just don't agree with, that you find morally reprehensible, whatever it may be, whatever it may be, tell me if I'm tripping. I'm a human being just like you, and I listen to all the DMs. Uh I listen to all the DMs. I read all the DMs, I listen to the voicemails, I read the text messages, I I really do listen and I take y'all feedback seriously. Not just not just in terms of a show and making it the show the best it can be. But me, as I continue to grow and I continue to put myself out there talking that shit, I want to make sure that I'm informed and I want to make sure that showing love to the people that need to show love, protecting the people that need to be protected, and hating on the motherfuckers that need to get hated on. A lot of slander. Last but not least, help this thing grow. If you like what I'm doing, if you support the wave, you you you down with this big dream shit, you listen to my podcast, and you like, damn, this nigga started a podcast out of nowhere. I want to go paint, I want to go rap, I want to become an F1 driver, whatever the fuck it is. If you feel that strongly about it, help this thing grow. Like, rate, subscribe, review, leave a voicemail, send a text message, share it on your Instagram story, share it in your church group, tell your peoples about it. I don't know, whatever it takes. But if you know someone that you think will benefit or enjoy this, spread the word, because that's the only thing this thing grows. And that's the only thing we get them sponsors on deck, baby, because I can't wait to sell out. Alright. Let's talk, man. Let's talk. We got a lot on deck for this week. The first topic is gonna be a little heavier, but I would be remiss if I didn't bring it up. Yeah, the the case of Serena Fairfax in in Virginia, as well as the the coward in Baton Rouge, who murdered his wife and I want to say eight children. Yeah, it's been a lot of talk of femcide, there's been a lot of talk of intimate partner violence, a lot of talk of violence against women. And until I saw a graphic that said that it was what, 30 or so that happened in the last three weeks or some crazy shit like that. I don't know if I've really had the full perspective of how prevalent it is. Um, so first and foremost, I just want to give thoughts and prayers to all families affected, women who lost their lives, or children who are growing up without their parents. It's dark, it's dark and it's heavy, but it has to be a conversation. And I don't I disagree with you know trying to humanize the murderers in your situation, trying to humanize the men, trying to say, oh, well, he did this or he did that or he was under that, under this kind of pressure. I I to be honest, I don't give a fuck what kind of pressure you was in, I don't give a fuck what kind of mental state you're in. That shit is unacceptable, inexcusable. As men, this is why I'm talking to my guys, because I know I know I got I got women listeners, and I'm I'm grateful for y'all. I appreciate all y'all. I'm gonna talk to talking to the guys real quick. We gotta make sure that we're vigilant about this shit. We gotta make sure we call it out, make sure we check it. Like women, specifically black women, need our protection. There's no ifs, ands, or buts about it. It can't just be your mother, it can't just be your sister, it can't just be your homegirl, it just can't be whoever you're fucking with. It it gotta be a universal thing. The the phrase has always been it takes a village. So we need that now more than ever, especially in light of of all the shit we facing. Before I go to before I go more into the subject, you got any any thoughts or anything? I know it's all a very tricky, touchy, triggering shit.

SPEAKER_06 9:38

No, I mean, just reiterating what you said, bro. Like, it can't we can't pick and choose, you know, and that's you know, growing up, we had to really learn that like women are the center. You know what I mean? Women need to be held you know near and dear to us. We like we gotta be protective of them, similar to what you said, because who who protects us? Right. You know what I mean? No, women. No now, black women. You know what I mean? So, you know, whether your homeboy tripping or whatever case may be, man, hold hold that nigga accountable. Don't don't just don't just be uh oh, I'm I'm here for my girl, I'm here for my sisters, I'm I'm here for my mom, whatever. No, man, protect protect black women. You know what I mean? Protect women, but you know what I mean? Don't just don't pick and choose, bro. Like that, yeah. Cause you see, like, man, like you, like, like dreams already reiterated, like the mindset of people and all that, they crazy, man. Yeah, they you see the lengths they willing to go. So you know, make sure you checking on your women, you you you making sure they they and they're safe. That's that's that's what matters. That's what's most important.

SPEAKER_01 10:43

Yeah, check these coward ass niggas, man.

SPEAKER_06 10:45

Every time.

SPEAKER_01 10:46

Check, I'm not even gonna say niggas, check these coward ass motherfuckers, man. Cause that's something we're not gonna be able to take forward. That was shit like this, like, is one of the reasons why I was so adamant about wanting to use my voice and have a platform. Because so much of what what our men take in, our young men are taking in, are that woman only wants you for what you can do for her. She only judges you based on your value, judges you based off your worth. And all this stacked on top of what is undiagnosed but very real mental health crisis in this country, because it gotta be some mental health to make you kill the mother of your children. You get what I'm saying? Gotta be some some mental health issues. Not excusing it, but but naming it. So if we got all these people that are afflicted by mental health crisis, that are afflicted by lack of confidence, that are in poor situations already, and then we have these quote unquote influencers that are telling them that the the right hands are the ones that are plotting against them. You know what I mean? That's nah. So that's why I'm here. Again, happy bro is here with me. Yeah, we just gotta do better. We just gotta do better. There's it's no reason that it's just so fucking heartbreaking. There's no reason that these people should be, these women should be losing their lives, especially over no trivial shit. So But it does, it does make me think about, and this was in this is kind of in response to the the husband who actually was the murderer, the murderer, we're calling that. It was a response to the murderer of people trying to clean up his image or say, well, he was a good guy, he wouldn't do this, or I can't believe he did that. And I want this lesson, if you don't take nothing away from from what I'm saying, outside of protecting our black women, outside of listening to them, having having a voice for them, being a safe a safe space for them. I wanted to be very clear and I wanted to be very understood that one action can dictate your whole legacy, for better or for worse. I think about my cousin a lot, shout out to my cousin, my cousin Rodney Pitts. He was a he was a firefighter, but he also was a husband, I mean not a husband, he was a father, a partner, a friend, did all these things for all these people. We all knew him in in different ways and built relationships with him. But the last thing he did was going into a burning building and losing his life. So now, whenever people think about him in a broader perspective or a broader context, his legacy is that of a hero, that of somebody that sacrificed themselves versus uh a Chris Benoit. He's he's appropriate in this situation, who was held as great wrestler, came from the bottom, did this, did that, outworked his circumstances, outworked what all for all intents and purposes outworked all expectations of him to become a success. But his legacy is that he killed his wife and killed his son and killed himself. So really understand that, y'all. And it don't gotta be as grave of an example of killing yourself or or being killed, but understand that one moment, one act, one thing can impact your whole legacy, all that you worked for or worked against in your whole life. So please keep that in mind as you're moving out here.

SPEAKER_07 13:37

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 13:38

Alright. Not really a way to transition here, but me and Taji back in the day, we used to have a show, a spinoff of the Working Chitle Podcast called Politics as Usual. And on that politics as usual show, as you might guess, we talked about politics. So in honor of Bro being the special guest this week, instead of me doing my normal political talk, we're gonna call it politics as usual and do the normal political talk. So, real quick hit us this week, because it's always absurd, it's always crazy with these motherfuckers. But um, if you haven't seen it, Pete Haggs of Pete Heggs was giving a speech, and he he said he was quoting the Bible, but the Bible verse he quoted was the Ezekiel verse that Samuel Jackson said in folk fiction. This motherfucker was dead ass. And I I don't know. I think that I think I lean on him thinking that was a real Bible verse more than I lean on him more than I lean on him trying to be ironic, like but that's talking about absurd shit. Like this nigga was really, really quoting it, bro. You seen it, you watched it, right?

SPEAKER_06 14:39

Yes, it the bro, it it's to a point where like you can't even make some of this stuff up, right? Like we we live in a world where if you actually told me this before, but 2024, 2023, I'd be like, no, that's not real. Like you making that up. Like these types of occurrences happen so frequently. And these are people of uh power. Yeah, like that's the part that I think I think is it's more so scary than anything, uh how uh uneducated and you know just unfathomable this stuff is. But I mean, that's 2026 for you, you know, and I guess next thing you know, he'll probably be quoting Django song, though. We'll see how it goes, man.

SPEAKER_01 15:24

But I'm gonna be honest, Donald Trump probably think Django is based on a true story. Who is he?

SPEAKER_06 15:34

Who you think?

SPEAKER_01 15:36

So Cash Patel, and other and other ridiculous White House news. Cash Patel, a scathing article came out about him over the weekend calling him an alcoholic, calling him a bad leader, which I mean, I'm not gonna say in his defense, but these motherfuckers are not qualified for the jobs that they had, so when they have improper results, it can't be shocking. But at the same time, that's isn't that the uh I mean 2026.

SPEAKER_06 16:05

But yeah.

SPEAKER_01 16:06

This motherfucker apparently was so lit, but also was so uh worried about the prospect of losing his job that when he got his password, when he put his password in and it didn't go due to some kind of tech technical error, he thought that he had got fired and called all his closest friends and family to say these motherfuckers fired me. So yeah, so just want to understand the type of people we have running our most important agencies, the the Secretary of Defense, the FBI, F E I, C I. I can't remember. I think it's F E I.

SPEAKER_06 16:35

You ever have you ever been so drunk you thought you lost your job? Fuck no. They make one of us. Really? Yeah, I've yeah, that's just me, that's not for any reason other than me being drunk. Like nothing else. Nothing from work actually provoked that. Just the alcohol provoked that thought. But I'm sure you were stressed though. Oh yeah, I mean, when when aren't we stressed working, right? Like, well, no, that's actually not true.

SPEAKER_01 17:01

Yeah, I've had a I I've had some good days on the Josh. I had a black eel. I had I had a girlfriend. Again, I make one of us. Fair enough.

SPEAKER_06 17:08

It's like no. Fair enough. Yeah, yeah, I'm I'm sure I was stressed when it happened the eight or nine times, but you know, hey, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 17:16

You know what I will give you though? I've been so stressed that I fell asleep dumbass early and then woke up dumbass early and thought out like I was in the wrong time. Like, oh no, I missed.

SPEAKER_06 17:26

Yeah, I I've been drunk doing that. I've been just tired doing that. That's that's a regular occurrence for me. Like, like, oh shit, wait a minute. Like, I walked my dog. Like, nigga, you've been asleep for 30 minutes. Like, oh, wait a minute. Like, yeah, you know, I that's a regular occurrence for me. I'm surprised like you can actually just think about like one or two times that happened. Like, I've that probably happened to me last week. Oh shit. Yeah. Man, you're tired, you're a tired man. Understatement. And no matter how early I try to go to bed, never work, yeah. Never work. And I still like a a big thing, right? So, you know, Saturday we had a we had a good time, you know. I don't know, I frequently taught people about this, but like when alcohol's in my system and I go to sleep, like I wake up no matter how tired I am, I have to wake up early.

SPEAKER_07 18:10

Really?

SPEAKER_06 18:11

Something about my body like doesn't let me sleep later than like seven o'clock. Like when but only when I have like alcohol in my system. Normal days, like if I don't have to go to work, whatever, I still I wake up at like eight, you know what I mean? But so I'm I'm I say that I'm very tired all the time. Oh yeah, passwords and losing your job.

SPEAKER_01 18:31

Well, I think the solution for you is just to drink all the time every day, so you can just be out, be out early, you know, your life and a party.

SPEAKER_05 18:42

Of all people. Absolutely not. Absolutely not.

SPEAKER_01 18:45

Speaking of alcoholics, Donald Trump.

SPEAKER_07 18:46

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 18:50

The ceasefire with Iran has been extended, but at the same time, they're reporting that there are still murders and casualties taking place. So, you know, we're still in this dumbass war. Can't keep the strait open, the strait of her moose, her moose, which was uncontested at one point, you know, it was free-flowing and then power grab. But I think that another important point to to just keep in mind with all of these things as they happen is that the Trump crime family keeps getting richer. Whether it be a crypto scam, whether it be, hey, five minutes before I put this suite out, man, you might want to play, you might wanna wanna go make this trade real quick, you might want to go run this option play real quick. It's wicked work, ladies and gentlemen. It's very, it's very lit wicked work, but all of this builds to a larger subject, and Taji was the perfect expert in the subject matter to bring in on this subject. There is a pro-wrestling efication of our society and culture that I don't think a lot of people realized until it was too late. Now, me and Taji being wrestling fans, we've been talking about this for some years now. But just the idea that in wrestling at the most basic level, the belief is that what you're seeing is kinda real, but it's kinda not. And that's why they used to call the shit fake back in the day when we were growing up, because it'd be like, well, you know, it's not really real. Um they're not really hitting each other, or they don't really hate each other, or so on and so forth. And that was something that was novel for wrestling, and then maybe a fucking soap opera or something like that. But now it's become so prevalent through social media, through reality TV, through what we're seeing at the with the administration, what we see on Capitol Hill, where Democrats and Republicans will be at each other's heads, then second the camera cut off, they offer drinks at the same bar on Capitol Hill. Yeah, I don't think we know about that shit, but we know about that shit. So, yeah, bro, the wrestling education of the world, everything is is pro-wrestling. What when I say that, what what immediately comes to mind for you?

SPEAKER_06 20:52

Oof. I mean politics specifically, right? Like we, like you just said, you know, y'all doing this and a third and going out to the bars later on. It's also hard for me to think one that immediately comes to mind is because like you said, we've been speaking on this for years from music. Like, you know, another one. That's I think that's like a super duper close one to wrestling. You know, rappers always say, like, rap shit, rap game, WWE now, blah, blah, blah. But I mean, that's always been the case, right? Like, you'll hear stories about like when when Hove was beefing with Mob D and You know, P pulled up on him, and Hove was just like, you know, it's just music. You know what I mean? That's just what it is. Like, that's how wrestling is, you know. A lot of times it's not, you're not fighting, they not fighting each other outside of the ring. It does happen sometimes. Like, don't get it twisted, but um most of the time they chilling. Yeah, like so. I I think, you know, when I think of that, is that's why I I don't be surprised by anything. I had this talk with my brother today uh while he was cutting my hair. When he was You wanna shout him out?

SPEAKER_01 21:52

So any niggas out there need haircuts?

SPEAKER_06 21:54

Kenny cuts, man, best barber, not just in the city, but the world, Craig. Cuts with a Z, right? No, no, no. With a uh with the Us. With us. Okay. Top flight security of the world, crack. But uh But we was talking and he was like, man, like, you know, that Gucci stuff breaking my heart, blah, blah, blah, with the whole push ice stuff. And I'm like, well, why? Like, yo, because he's supposed to be this, he's supposed to be that. Who cares? Right. You know what I mean? Like, Drake got ghostwriters. Right. I'm sh I'm sure other artists have had ghostwriters, right? You can't put you can't invest your stock into these people's personal lives.

SPEAKER_01 22:29

Right. Because they personas.

SPEAKER_06 22:30

Exactly.

SPEAKER_01 22:31

The rock is Gucci Man, like Raderick Davis is Dwayne Johnson.

SPEAKER_06 22:38

Exactly. Like it's all this, it's not, you're not supposed to actually fully believe 100% of everything you see on the television screen or hear what you what who say? Yep. Well who say uh but believe half of what you see and none of what you hear. Less respect. Even then.

SPEAKER_01 22:55

And then actually saying I killed niggas dead.

SPEAKER_06 22:57

Yeah. Like so it's like, you know, you you can't take any of this stuff to be 100% real. It's it's all it's all scripted in one way or another, one fashion, whatever you want to call it. But I mean, at your old age, why are you so invested in these people's? And this is not just to my brother, this is to anybody. Like, why why do y'all believe, like, oh man, this person's so real? This they not. They not at all. You're gonna be let down. You know what I mean? If you holding that stock, believe that where you believe that for your parents and for your friends and your loved ones. Like, that's who you gotta hold that accountable to.

SPEAKER_01 23:36

Yeah, yeah, Mr. Leonard down the street. Mr. Lennon, a real nigga. You can you can send your wise to Mr. Leonard. You're gonna cut that grass. Yeah. Gonna crack his modellos. Yeah. A good beer sounds nice. But and shout out to Mr. Leonard. Hey man, shout out to Mr. Leonard.

SPEAKER_06 23:48

But no, that that's just how I peep it. Like, I don't, you can't, you can't put stock in these people, man. Y'all don't know them. Get off the ground, get off Twitter. Live your life. Go, go enjoy the people that you really know.

SPEAKER_01 23:59

Yeah, touch grass. You feel me? Uh yeah. That's grass. I think an another interesting angle that I come back to a lot is it sound, this is a theory that me and you've been saying for I don't even know how long at this point. Like, all right, all this shit is wrestling, life is wrestling. But when you really peel back the layers to take it back to Trump for a second, and then you realize a couple things. One that WrestleMania was at Trump Plaza in the 80s. I want to say it was WrestleMania 2. And that would have been like 1985. You realize Vince McMahon and Donald Trump have a close relationship the way Vince McMahon put Donald Trump personally in the WWE Hall of Fame. You realize Donald Trump has appeared on WrestleMania. He was on in WrestleMania 23, and then he was on some episodes of Raw after that. So when you take all of this, and there's a book, there's a book about it. I can't remember the author, but it it digs into this relationship deeply to just prove the point that a lot of the braggadocio that we see from Trump, a lot of the bra bravado that we see from Trump, a lot of the rhetoric that we see from Trump, a lot of his whole persona was crafted in the mold of a WWFWE wrestler. So when you put it into that perspective, and then you understand, oh, he's not out there giving a speech to Unite the Nation. He's out there cutting a promo, cutting talking shit about his enemies. He's gonna show up with the flash and the pop and circumstance, because that's what wrestlers do when they're champions. They come out to the ring with the fireworks and the robe and the crowd cheering and all that. So when you really realize how much of his persona is steeped in the same shit that Hulk Hogan and Randy Savage were doing to become celebrities and superstars, it contextualizes him in a different kind of way.

SPEAKER_06 25:42

Right. And it's it's funny you say that because uh it got me thinking, like, first time like wrestling like really broke my heart, like outside of like storyline was when I found out like Kane and Undertaker were real brothers, right? Mm-hmm. So like if that broke my heart, nothing I don't care. You feel me? I already, I already, I already got my stock, already, you know, my stock already so low because damn, Mark Callaway and Glenn Jacobs not really brothers, right? You feel me? They don't got the same last name. Why would they be real brothers? Real shit. You feel me?

SPEAKER_01 26:12

Like they ain't even know each other. Yeah, man. Like what?

SPEAKER_06 26:18

I think that. But I do got a lot of stock in Tyrese. I think I think Tyrese needs to be held accountable to being the realest person that ever was. Are you talking about Tyrese Halliburton? No, I'm talking about Tyrese Hallizab.

SPEAKER_01 26:29

Oh, you talking about Tyreese? Does he have a last name? Uh if he's. Nipson, fuck. Oh.

SPEAKER_06 26:32

Oh yeah, the guy from Festivals.

SPEAKER_01 26:34

But yes, okay. To your point, because I wouldn't even go here. But yes, there's a list. There's a there's a list of motherfuckers that you can tell they're not pretending. To the point where it'd be like, yo, are you good? Like, is something wrong with you, bro? Let's name him. Tyrese. Ray J. Ray J. Bow Wow.

SPEAKER_06 26:48

Yeah, okay. Future. I don't know. Future Future be drinking vegetable water and you know what I mean. I think he only lied about the drugs. But that's a lot to lie. Or only lies about the drugs. That's a lot to lie about. You don't think so? Hey man. Well, niggas in high school said they was high and they wasn't high, so yeah, that makes sense.

SPEAKER_01 27:08

Yeah, niggas was smoking on smarties. I ain't forget. Smarties? Yeah. Rolling up smarties, smarty packs.

SPEAKER_08 27:14

Wait, what?

SPEAKER_01 27:14

Y'all remember that niggas rolling up the smarty pack, getting all dusty and then like blowing like a seen that? Alright. No. And you're listening. And you know niggas that did uh the smarty trick, the fake smarty blunts. Shout out to you. You would you came up during a real era.

SPEAKER_06 27:29

No, if you listening and you actually did the the Smarty blunts, we need to have a conversation.

SPEAKER_01 27:33

Hit the voicemail line. Link in the uh link in the bio.

SPEAKER_06 27:36

Yeah, please, because I I wanna I wanna understand what's going on through your mindset, brother. Also, if you did 10 foil Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 27:42

And you did 10 foil fronts, I respect you.

SPEAKER_06 27:44

Oh yeah, I did those.

SPEAKER_01 27:45

10 foil fronts, stun of shades.

SPEAKER_06 27:48

I remember I used to have like in like first grade or whatever, I give get a cavity and you get a crown. You know what I mean? A little silver.

SPEAKER_05 27:55

Ah, you was a hot boy.

SPEAKER_06 27:56

Yeah, man, you can't tell me shit. You was a hot boy No nigga, take back care of your teeth. Like what? Don't show that shit off. Like what, nigga? I did want one of the belt buckles.

SPEAKER_01 28:07

Yeah. Back in the day. Yeah. Ooh, we not the LED joint. I wanted the LED joint too, but I really just wanted the Jordan. That's but that was pre-BD.

SPEAKER_05 28:16

Yeah, that makes sense.

SPEAKER_01 28:18

Oh, GJ Calla number one on that list of people that's not pretending. Yeah. Like I I think Fan Joe was number one, actually. He just be lying.

unknown 28:26

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 28:27

He me lying, but he means dead ass. I think I think Boosie on that too, but he just really dumb. Fair? Like really dumb. Fair.

unknown 28:36

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 28:36

So this is not like me shouting out Boosie as being like, you know, somebody y'all should look up to me, like, no, Boosie's probably just that dumb.

SPEAKER_01 28:42

Yeah, we're talking about the people that are breaking the matrix right now. For whatever reason, way, shape, or form, they they didn't fall into the traps and conformities of pretending to be something they not.

SPEAKER_06 28:53

But I think Tyrese Gibson is somebody everybody should put their stock into.

SPEAKER_01 28:57

Yeah, because he just going live. He had some shit this morning, like, yeah, Patreon. No, he had some shit like announcing the Patreon. $50. But it was like exclusive shit. It was like 25 exclusive songs or something. Oh, Orlando Brown, you know. Well, that might just be mental illness. Yeah. That might that might not be that might not be the too real symptom that we're talking about. That just might be some some untreated trauma and pain.

SPEAKER_06 29:20

You give you giving Tyrese dollar, Tyrese gives him $50 for 25 songs? If I'm up? Oh.

SPEAKER_01 29:26

Because it's Patreon too, so you got you gotta understand. It might be a chat associated with it. Oh. It might be some kind of exclusive offer, like Tyrese in your city, nigga at Drew Hill Park, having a a sing-off with Cisco.

SPEAKER_06 29:36

That'd be fire.

SPEAKER_01 29:37

Yeah. Who you got winning? Cisco. Ferris enough. Definitely Cisco. Gotta go with the home team.

SPEAKER_06 29:42

Ferris. Ferris.

SPEAKER_01 29:43

Right. Yeah, okay. But if the Jolice bus would have pull up and Casey would have stepped on the bus, then I think we'd have to have a real conversation. Focus might be fried from years of recreational.

SPEAKER_06 29:55

But the enjoyment of just, you know, the the pump and circumstance.

SPEAKER_01 29:59

Oh, yeah. Man, what? I don't know. Ooh, I pay a lot to see them niggas just sing off like a versus, but they just singing. Like uh, what was it, like day 26? Yes. Like a making event, yeah. Exactly like that. Oh, did he? Alright. Another one. Actually, no, he was pretending. He was pretending a lot. Oh Diddy? Yeah, I was about to put him in a category of like niggas who didn't pretend, but he pretended to like not be a scoundrel.

SPEAKER_06 30:25

Yeah, he had like different errors of being a different person.

SPEAKER_01 30:29

Yeah, like a Pokemon. Yeah. Just evolving.

SPEAKER_06 30:31

Just evolving, yep. Mm-hmm. Bingo.

SPEAKER_01 30:34

Any more, any more thoughts on the pro wrestling topic? Everyone's an actor. I did want to have you for this conversation too, because you spent some time as journalists, so your perspective is different. I speak a lot on this show and try to emphasize a lot about journalistic principles being one of the things that's going to save us during this time. I'm being able to evaluate different sources.

SPEAKER_06 30:55

Don't count on that.

SPEAKER_01 30:57

Principles, not journalists themselves.

SPEAKER_06 30:59

Don't. Yeah. Oh, well.

SPEAKER_01 31:00

But being able to evaluate different sources, being able to look at things objectively, look at things critically, research things further, build connections and relationships.

SPEAKER_06 31:07

Like it's some I don't think it'll ever save us because that will rely on more than a handful of people being willing to look into those things, like you said. So let me ask you this. Do you think we're cooked? Yes, 100%. We are cooked. And we've been cooked for a while. At this point, probably burnt. We're that cooked. We're it's GG's in the chat.

SPEAKER_01 31:28

Like it's um it's niggas in the lunchroom and acorn just dropped this like 2005 and they just getting all their jokes off. Knuckles flag as fuck.

SPEAKER_06 31:40

Um, yeah, it we're we're done. You know how like when you playing 2K of mad, like you down 21, you got past the sticks. Yeah, this we down more than 21 with niggas just holding the sticks. Like niggas just niggas is still playing the game with no hope. Like, it's it's over with. But we're cooked, bro. Because like you said, like all those things could help us. Like, you know, hey, maybe we should do some research before spreading this false information. Nobody does that. Like, nah. Like, even like take think about our group chats, right? Like, niggas sent something so wild, we'd be like, yo, is this real? Like, you know, what did the person look it up before they sent it to the group chat? Probably not. Yeah. You feel me? So, I mean, that's just and then never come back.

SPEAKER_01 32:19

That'd be the funny part. Yeah, never come back. I mean, quick to be like, oh nah, they got me, they got me. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They send that misinformation.

SPEAKER_06 32:26

And then and they still run with it. Yeah. They still run with it. So, yo, chat, this real? Like, no, just all you gotta do is it don't even take you a full minute to do the right research. Yeah, and sometimes you just gotta think critically. Yeah, and that's another thing. People don't have critical thinking skills. Like, I feel like that's like a big part of elementary school.

SPEAKER_07 32:46

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 32:47

And then like, you feel me? Ever since then, it's like, I don't know, you know how they stopped teaching people how to write in cursive? Like, did they stop teaching critical thinking?

SPEAKER_01 32:55

No, that's thinking in cursive. Things don't got that one.

SPEAKER_06 33:00

Like, I it's it's it's wild that you know this is how how did you not think about that? Like, how did you how'd you believe this was real? Like, I don't like the picture's clearly, yeah, that's not how the guy looks. Like, that motherfucker got eight fingers. Yeah, yeah, bro. Like what? He looks like a Pokemon. Like, well, why why would you send me this photo saying, oh, we got this new juice three movie dropping and the second one didn't even drop?

SPEAKER_05 33:25

Like, what what yours look good for a thing movie poster? I ain't gonna lie. Twitter now too. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 33:31

Twitter now too. Yo, did you see the the paydafu? They said pay to full with uh Joey Battle. They said Joey Bettis, uh Jason Idris Like yo dick said, oh, this is about to pop. Like what?

SPEAKER_01 33:45

Yeah, like that's not happening.

SPEAKER_06 33:47

Joey Bettis had like he did a video saying it's not real.

SPEAKER_01 33:50

Like that's sick that he had to address it. Yeah, that's how far gone, that's how far gone we are.

SPEAKER_05 33:55

Like, oh my god.

SPEAKER_01 33:57

I keep getting these AI generated, I don't know what the fuck happened to my algorithm. I keep getting these AI generated posters for like it'd be like Arby's and a rapper, like a music festival. Like one of them was it was Arby's and Rod Wave. I was like, yo, what happened to my algorithm to where this type of shit popped up? And they was like, yeah, we got chilling sandwiches, all you can eat. Like it was it was like the most ridiculous shit I ever seen. I really was offended. I was offended, bro.

SPEAKER_06 34:24

I'm like while Rod Wave is like in the center, like Yeah, I'm like, yo, what the fuck did I do for this to be my feet? You know, you know how like Sean Mike was they say his algorithm is just like baddies and stuff yours and shit.

SPEAKER_01 34:36

Armies, AI Army's content. Yeah, bro. I don't even know where I don't know where that shit came from. I don't know how I started inside of pocket.

SPEAKER_06 34:48

It was all all it takes, all it takes is like one one interaction.

SPEAKER_01 34:52

I never even like the shit. I don't like I don't know.

SPEAKER_06 34:54

You probably accidentally did. You just didn't know. I think accidentally saved it.

SPEAKER_01 34:57

I think the shit is so wicked now that I screenshot it and sent it in the group chat. Like I don't know why, but yeah, I'm like Oh, you like this? Oh, you spent five seconds on this and screenshoting it? Yeah, yeah. We're gonna flood you with that shit, boy.

SPEAKER_06 35:08

I ain't gonna lie, that's how I was with uh the meta, the AI Meta glasses before I got mine. Like, and I was popping on getting them for like a month, two months, you know. Like I was popping them for like two months. And I just kept seeing on Instagram, scrolling, like through stories or my feed. And then literally, ever since I got them, I don't see them no more. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 35:26

I was trying to scroll on my gram to see if any of them Arby's poster was gonna pop up. And just for the record, I know I've talked about Arby's on social media from time to time. I'm not like an avid, I'm not Arby's man. Let's just put it that way. I'm not Arby's man. I'm BD, not Arby. Like, that's not Arby's man. That's not my bad. That's not my bad.

SPEAKER_06 35:46

So I'm not Arby's man.

SPEAKER_01 35:48

I don't want that. I don't want that on my name. Just because I frequent. I don't even say frequently. I go to a motherfucker like semi-annually. I go somewhere twice a year. Niggas like, oh, you eat an Arby's. You went to Arby's.

SPEAKER_06 36:00

Yeah, I mean, did you try to stay? Oh, we tried to sick nuggets, right? It was good. I still got trying.

SPEAKER_01 36:04

But I went, like I said, I went to-state or they was like, it was like it was real steak. It was like beef jerky. It tasted like beef jerky. Like bigger beef jerky. But I told you, like a good beef jerky. Like I told the chat, I went to the motherland. I wasn't going around the way. I went to Carroll County. Yeah, that's what you got.

SPEAKER_06 36:18

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 36:18

I went, I went where it's gonna be straight from the source. If you know, you know. I I didn't go round the way because I know round the way they wasn't gonna give it the same care and concern. They were like, these niggas ain't arties. Like them, there might be better. Like, oh, let's say fuck back again. Like, nah, bro. I I went, I went to K. With your nuggets. I went to the Mecca, I went to the to the motherland for for white people food. Got them nuggets. I went early too. I went, I went like uh, maybe it was like 11 something, 12 something. I went early. Cause I was like, they not gonna give me no step doing shit.

SPEAKER_06 36:56

And they in a good mood still.

SPEAKER_01 36:57

Yeah. Hey, shout out to whatever the uh the the checkout fast food, fast what is what is this shit called? The nigga in the in the checkout plane.

SPEAKER_06 37:08

Or what like the guy who was like welcome to Arby's? Yeah, like what is it? Yeah, they got a name. I can't leave her blanket on this right now. It ain't a server. Like come around to Yeah, I forget.

SPEAKER_01 37:23

Well, whenever you, whatever your name is at that Arby's at Westminster, you a good man, yo. I should have given you a five-star review, but I I was gassed up about the nuggets and the recreational activities that I got into that Saturday. But speaking of recreational activities on a Saturday, as we move from everything being wrestling to literal wrestling. Last week I did a brief preview. I got most of my predictions right, by the way. I got some of the motherfuckers wrong and shit. I thought Randy Oak was gonna win the championship. I can't remember which other ones I got wrong off the top of my head because I don't really dwell on my failure like a lot of you all do. Just kidding. Just a joke. But yeah, let's talk about WrestleMania wrestling in general. We don't gotta go too inside baseball. We'll say that for the the spin-off of the spin-off of the spin-off podcast when we just talk about wrestling for three hours straight every week and launch a fake uh scoop page to get money off of people who believe wrestling is real. But yeah, what were your thoughts, bro? What did you enjoy? Who were some standout folks? I also understand a lot of my audience does not watch wrestling, so we gotta kind of keep it.

SPEAKER_06 38:25

Yeah, yeah, surface level. I thought I thought WrestleMania was actually like really good. I thought the first day, you know, it was like a seven out of ten, six out of ten. I know a lot of people wonder. Three out of ten, wonder where's it wasn't. I've probably watched at least like live, probably watched at least like six. WrestleMania is way worse than that.

SPEAKER_01 38:43

We've watched some ass ones, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 38:44

Like together. 34 is 34 immediately comes to mind. 35 was pretty bad too, aside from Kofi getting this moment. But we uh I thought I thought it was pretty good. I thought night two was one of the best manias. Like as a sole day, like I agree. I think it was one of the best manias who who stands out. I thought, yeah, yeah, Oba, man.

SPEAKER_01 39:07

I can't say it when I'm hitting the see.

SPEAKER_06 39:10

I'm gonna be alright, so I'm gonna say this. All the main black talent that was included, so Oba, Trick, Jade. But yeah, shall I be on forget her moment of announcing her pregnancy? Oba, Trick Jade, Javon. Who who am I missing? Am I missing anybody? I think, I think that's that's what comes to mind immediately. And I think they all shine in what they did. I think, you know, Jay Cargo being a confident black woman turns a lot of wrestling fans off because they're insecure white men, you know, and they don't like a confident black woman. You feel me? But I've been, you know, I've been screaming to the raptors how how good she is. I've been saying that f since she was in, you know, another company in AEW, another company from WWE if you don't aren't familiar. And um, you know, everybody just wants to they felt she was too cocky. I don't know why. Cause you're supposed to be cocky when you're wrestling. That's a part of being a special attraction. That's a part of, you know, this whole lifestyle of being bigger than than than life.

SPEAKER_01 40:13

Yeah, plus she looked like she got carved out of fucking granite.

SPEAKER_06 40:16

Yeah, like she she's a star, man, and she showed it. She showed it. Trick, you know, I remember a lot of people saying he can't wrestle, so he's not gonna be that big, but he's probably gonna be like the face of the company eventually. I mean Yachty, you know, Yachty was there with him, and Yachty showed out he didn't overextend, he he didn't try to be the star, he was himself, and it helped it just helped trick out Oba retirement Brock is major. A lot of people were doubting if O was actually gonna win, but I I didn't really have a doubt in my mind because I I felt like they knew like it's time.

SPEAKER_01 40:52

Yeah, they put they wasn't gonna put it on ESPN for free to not make a star in that.

SPEAKER_06 40:56

Exactly, exactly. And Javon, he got one of the best moments of the ladder match. Penta, you know, probably my favorite wrestler currently. He, I mean, he he retained his title. Him, Javon, dragging, like everybody in the ladder match did their thing. I thought the ladder match was probably the second best match of the weekend. And then Roman and Punk. They did exactly what a WrestleMania event was supposed to do. Made you feel something, made you kept you engaged. Like we was all watching at my crib, and there was barely five words spoken in the city. Yeah, we were quiet and shit. Yeah. Like people was not talking, it was all locked, man. Nobody was on their phone, like everybody was really locked in because that match was that damn good. And I mean, that's just WrestleMania done right. It's no feeling, it's no better feeling than a great WrestleMania. Nothing tops that, you know. No. And I think that's what night two was. And night one was just whatever. Like it was cool. It wasn't bad by any means, it wasn't great by any means. Yeah. I thought I thought it was I thought it was a good weekend, all in all, man. Really enjoyed it. I enjoyed kicking it with y'all. You know, we we take shots when we predict the wrong, when we predict the loser. Like if our person we predict doesn't win, we gotta take a shot. So I didn't really take too many shots the second day. No, I'd go. But uh, you feel me. But no, it was a great time. I appreciate y'all coming, man. That was that was great. How'd you feel about it?

SPEAKER_01 42:14

Ah, you man, it's one thing, and you kind of you kind of summed it up, but it's it's one thing to watch wrestling, but it's one thing to watch it with your people, it's it with your with your folks, and you feel like y'all on the same accord, y'all seeing the same thing, kinda. That's that's what it's all about, because like you said, the feeling can't be beat. It's one of them things where it's when you're watching a sporting event or watching a movie or watching just whatever, like that community and that camaraderie, yeah, and make whatever the shit could have the shit could have been ass, it could have been a zero by the same. We would have still had a good time laughing, drinking, geeking about whatever it may be. So now I I enjoy myself. And I I think that that WrestleMania 42 night too, I think that that was one of the best nights out of WrestleMania. I was talking listening to a podcast, and they said if you would have taken night two, put the Bianca pregnancy announcement on there and put the Seth Rollins and Gunther match on there, it would have been top to bottom one of the best nights of WrestleMania ever. No, no debate. And I was like, damn.

SPEAKER_06 43:12

But I think I also think that one had like I I really enjoyed Jacob and Drew. I thought that was a really good match. I thought I actually didn't see the speed match. I didn't really care to watch that either. And I thought even the main event with Randy and Cody was was good. People just don't like the Pat McFeoling volving, which I understand. I didn't I didn't like it either. But they kept it brief. Yeah, and the match was good. It was good work, it was it was a good Randy Orton Cody Rhodes match.

SPEAKER_01 43:35

And I like seeing Cody, this might be a little too inside baseball, but I like seeing Cody work as the heel. Yeah. Start that match. And I kept saying it when we were sitting there watching together, like, yo, Cody working hill this match. Cody work and heal this match because we used to seeing I think I broke this down a little bit last episode, but if I didn't or if you didn't hear that, usually in WWE wrestling, usually the style is that the heel is the one that the heel, the bad guy, is the one that is on the offensive for the Most part, and then the face, the good guy, is the one that's trying to make the comeback, trying to rally. And Cody Rose is usually positioned as ultimate super duper good guy. So to see him in a position where he's working as the bad guy, as a heel, trying to do the comeback, trying to trying to do all those type of things. It's cool to see that so different. And also it's cool for me because I'm excited for Cody Rose to turn into a bad guy. Right now he's the biggest, arguably the biggest baby face. You could say Roman Reigns is, you could say CM Punk is, but arguably Cody Rose is the biggest baby face in WWE. I'm sure merch numbers probably would say that he is. Well, they probably would say Dan House and is. But Cody Rose being Mr. Good Guy, Mr. Mr. Super Good Guy is cool. I'm a fan of it. I'm really excited to see him play the bad guy, play the bad side. And this was this match to me was a really cool preview of that. So yeah, shout out to WrestleMania. Shout out to Dave.

SPEAKER_06 44:57

And then even the Monday at the Raw. It's crazy. That was good. I'm sorry, like I said earlier. But uh that was good too. That's you feel me. That was one of the better raw Raw after manies we've had in a long time, you know? Good call-ups, good matches, good plot advancement. Jacob, Roman's cousin, being the net first challenger.

SPEAKER_05 45:21

It's a great storyteller, you know.

SPEAKER_01 45:22

So Alright, how do I transition this? How do I transition this one? From one from talking about box office superstars to talking about uh the return of a box office superstar. Drake released The Iceman. It's gonna be coming out on, I want to say May 15th is the day he's at.

SPEAKER_06 45:45

Yeah, I think so.

SPEAKER_01 45:46

It's been quite the rollout from Drake. It's been a very long rollout. It's been going, I want to say for since last year, since parts last year. The culmination was that he took a whole bunch of blocks of ice and put them in Toronto and said when the ice melts, you'll get the release date. So of course, like being the rational civilization that we are, people was out that motherfucker melting the ice with a blowtorch, pickaxes, hitting it with a pickaxe, kicking it, running into it. Someone found it. And alright, I'm gonna just break down this series of events in case no one in case you haven't seen it. But it's gonna sound stupid as shit. That's why I'm kind of bracing myself, because it's gonna sound fucking stupid.

SPEAKER_06 46:28

That's the worst. When you're about like tell a story side, you know, it's like mm, it's probably not gonna be as funny or like interesting if I say it.

SPEAKER_01 46:33

Yeah, it's gonna it's gonna sound stupid, but it this this is the the events that happened. So it was a streamer, I don't remember his name. He got to the center of the ice and found a bag in the ice. Then he took the bag and at some point got a call from Aiden Ross. Aiden Ross told him to take the bag to Drake's mansion, which is called the Embassy. So he rolled in the Uber. He did all this on a live stream too, by the way. So then he rolled in an Uber to the embassy, and when he got to the embassy, they opened the bag, and inside was the release date to Iceman, as well as just a whole bunch of racks of money. Oh, he gave money to? Yeah, it was racks in the bag. Oh, that's all. And Ross was telling him, like, on this on the on the car ride, like, oh, you're not gonna open the bag? Like, you got Iceman in your hands right now. You not gonna open the bag?

SPEAKER_06 47:25

You got Iceman in your hands right now.

SPEAKER_01 47:28

Yeah. So what would you bring the Iceman rollout on a on a scale from A being, oh, it's one of the best rollouts I ever seen for anything ever in my life. And we'll say I. That would be the lowest one. You said I? Yeah, we'll go past E F G. Just go to I. Why I? Because if A is the top and E is usually the bottom, but the shit is called Iceman, we'll just take it lower. Okay, okay. Okay, that makes sense. Yeah, no, it wasn't no. I thought it was like some.

SPEAKER_06 47:55

Yo, F means this, isn't it?

SPEAKER_01 47:57

And you see me get an email for it.

SPEAKER_06 48:00

Like, nah, it ain't. It's interesting because me being me, I think it was ass. So I guess I but I know like, you know, like the new era, like streaming and all that, the incorporating streamers and stuff, like that that's probably very high to them, you know. And also, I don't think this new era of music fans really got to experience great rollouts, in my opinion. Like, I I think they saw the clips. Yeah, yeah, but that's also are they indulging with eclipses? You know what I mean? Fair enough. Like, I I feel like that's that's stuff like we like, you know what I mean? But they don't they're they're so quick to be dismissive or quick to be saying this is the best thing ever, that you know, the streaming shit is really like what's popping right now, so that incorporates it. Oh yeah, this is amazing. Like, you know, because I w I all they do is watch streams or whatever the case may be. So it's probably really hot for them. For me, it didn't really impress me.

SPEAKER_01 48:53

You wouldn't have been in Toronto chipping at the ice?

SPEAKER_06 48:56

I haven't been in Toronto ever, so I don't think the ice would have if the ice was in the if the ice was in the harbor. No. Speaking of the harbor, bring back beating people up at the harbor. I don't got no reason to say that I just wanted to.

SPEAKER_01 49:13

So I said the nigga that said we bringing Towson back. Maybe in the mall, we going sports.

SPEAKER_06 49:19

They had like Towson takeover or something somewhat recently. And it was like, yo, because you know I live somewhat near the mall or whatever the case may be. Allegedly. Allegedly. Yo, they I was driving home and it was like it was like four or five cop trucks, like they had they had police like kicking kids out the mall, like by the bus stop and stuff already.

SPEAKER_01 49:40

I was like, damn, like they restoring the family.

SPEAKER_06 49:43

Yeah, man.

SPEAKER_01 49:44

We have tiles in commons. We ain't seeing no movies. Man, what a very specific regional, regional joke that was. Shout out to the gang.

SPEAKER_06 49:55

But yeah, man, I So the rollout was I ass.

SPEAKER_01 49:57

Yeah. Ass with a capital I.

SPEAKER_06 49:59

With a capital I. I ain't that's not for me.

SPEAKER_01 50:01

But as far as You didn't like Drake dressing up as a as a worker and knowing Iceman things, like loading up trucks.

SPEAKER_06 50:11

Oh, like on the YouTube videos and stuff? Yeah. No. I did not.

SPEAKER_01 50:17

Stop cosplaying poor people.

SPEAKER_06 50:18

Yeah, like you're not doing that. Like, why why don't you hire a real actor?

SPEAKER_01 50:22

My career is not your content, bitch.

SPEAKER_06 50:25

My culture is not your cost in.

SPEAKER_01 50:27

But um And it is funny though, because when life is good, drive, we was like, yo.

SPEAKER_05 50:31

Yeah. They see us. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 50:33

We fell seen.

SPEAKER_05 50:34

Yeah. Fat. Fat. Very true.

SPEAKER_06 50:42

Yeah, so I'm I'm uh I did like I did like what did I miss though? I did like that. My I like how he did a little video aside from the guns part. He had like gun hella guns in it and something like that. It was like, come on, Aubrey. I mean, hey man. He actually might be a my boss, Toronto. We don't know. Might. Allegedly.

SPEAKER_01 51:03

Hey man, hop on one of them subreddits.

SPEAKER_06 51:06

Yo, one of the funny overrules the underworld.

SPEAKER_01 51:09

Yeah, yo, that shit I sent you. It was a I think it was a parody. I hope it was a parody, but I sent Tazi a what is that TikTok? A me? Oh, and some fuck all the formats and shit blend together after a certain point, but it was some shit like, yeah, people enjoy Drake's raps, but they never know how much hell he caused on the underworld of Toronto.

SPEAKER_04 51:24

The criminal underworld of Toronto. What?

SPEAKER_06 51:30

He rules with an arching fist.

SPEAKER_01 51:32

He's saying 25D because too many pussy is trying me.

SPEAKER_06 51:36

Yeah, but I I I'm excited to actually hear the music though. I will say that. I think it's a this is actually a moment in his career where he like he he didn't really often have his back against the walls too much. Aside from like the push of T-Beef. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 51:53

And when a nigga peed on him.

SPEAKER_06 51:54

But niggas ain't even care about that. What's this crazy to me? Like you got peed on. And niggas look over. Bo, it was just a splash. Like, yeah, that's crazy. What? Actually, no, it wasn't even like that. Yeah, like he was trying to pee near him and he just splashed. Why do you even feel comfortable peeing near me? In a movie there. In a movie there, to go to the bathroom. You don't respect me. Yeah, bro. Like, in this hell, in this hell is hell like a movie there. Think about that. It's hella rules, bro. Let's say you couldn't make it to the bathroom, whatever the case may be. Why are you picking a role? I'm sitting there.

SPEAKER_01 52:22

And you don't respect him.

SPEAKER_06 52:23

Yeah, bro. Oh, he just got a little splash on him.

SPEAKER_01 52:26

Like, what? Niggas got me slipping once, okay.

SPEAKER_06 52:29

So what? You probably did slip on that. But um you getting me getting me worked up, bro.

SPEAKER_01 52:38

Yeah, you're in your bag. You back activated. But banger, D did with the gang, D with the bang. What the fuck?

SPEAKER_06 52:46

Yeah, yo. He so it's it's a pivotal time for him. So he gotta actually, you know, I want him rap. I know that's we say that every year for every Drake album. Yeah. But I feel like, you know, her loss and CLB, we got a lot of great raps. You know, I mean, uh, for all the dogs is whatever. So he he did the raps for like Scary I was two, whatever that shit was called, which was good. But I want to hear some raps. I know you're gonna have the song for the women, you're gonna have some club joints, all that. Like, I'm cool with that, but let's get some raps on that. Really, you really gotta talking about a rap beef and trying to get a party with. Nigga, you 40. I want rap, bro.

SPEAKER_01 53:20

Stop trying to get the party with. Nigga, you 40. He made it real hard for light-skinned niggas with braids, speaking just for myself. He made it real hard. I had to, I had the battle. I ain't gonna lie, he put a lot of salt in the game that I had to push through to not be considered a corny nigga. He put a lot of salt in the game. I'm with you then. I want him rap. I hope that he raps over that Iceman, that fake Iceman intro that's been on YouTube. I really enjoy that. I hope that he raps over that. If he don't, hey man, somebody else will. Have you heard the conspiracy theory that Drake is actually gay and that's why he's calling himself the Iceman? Because this is him revealing himself as coming out the.

SPEAKER_06 53:51

I have this in it on Twitter. Because Iceman came up. I don't, hey man, love who you want to love. Be like it's not if I don't think that's real, but if that's real, then I I don't, you know, I don't got stock in it. Like, don't affect me. Well, right, you say love who you wanna love.

SPEAKER_01 54:12

Like when you love who you wanna be. Ain't man the words of Frank Ocean, I'm hiding them by waiting, I sent him straight.

SPEAKER_06 54:17

It's a great song, by the way. I remember. Yeah, that's that's a great song.

SPEAKER_01 54:22

Yo, it was such a mind fuck when Frank Ocean first like came out rapping. Yeah. Cause he was singing, like really singing, singing, and then he What's the shit called? She? Her? She?

SPEAKER_07 54:31

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 54:31

She and her are such similar names, but she when he was golden rubbers in these denim pockets. Niggas like, oh shit.

SPEAKER_06 54:36

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 54:37

Nigga, Frank rapping.

SPEAKER_06 54:38

Then you don't just never actually got bumped out when we leave.

SPEAKER_01 54:42

He just never ran it back.

SPEAKER_06 54:43

He was like, golden rubbers in these denim pockets.

SPEAKER_01 54:45

Yo, that's always OD. It aged very badly. The the third verse about you know, so my expectations for Iceman. I think he's gonna rap well. I'm excited to see what the features are. I'm excited to see if he brings any of his killers in for features. What do I mean by that? Smiley. I wasn't gonna say his name. Oh my fault. Hey man, you know, Boogie Man, Smiley, Wax, Bobby. Hannibal Lector.

SPEAKER_06 55:08

Him and top five not cool no more, right? For real? Uh apparently, that's a thing. I don't know. I feel like you know better than me. What you mean by that? No, because you be, yeah, I mean you be in the subreddits of all three criminal underworld and stuff.

SPEAKER_01 55:23

Yo, the subreddits geeks.

SPEAKER_06 55:26

Um, you think they you gonna have uh the videos on there?

SPEAKER_01 55:29

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 55:30

I hope so.

SPEAKER_01 55:31

Yeah, I do. I really do. I actually you brother, because I actually in my hand I was saying, I think we're gonna get a f a future feature.

SPEAKER_06 55:37

I hope so. I hope it's not just a hook. I hope it's like I'm gonna rap it. Nah, it's gonna be a future.

SPEAKER_01 55:41

You know them songs where he makes noises sometimes.

SPEAKER_06 55:44

But like, let's let's talk about like in two deep. Like he got a whole like two minutes.

SPEAKER_01 55:48

Like, yeah, that was rare. That's why we were so geeked by that.

SPEAKER_05 55:51

Yeah, he got he got a verse on on Grammy's too sexy. He knew. Yo, Fisher got some, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 55:58

He knew got a verse on too sexy. Yeah. You think Ross is gonna be on it?

SPEAKER_07 56:02

No. No.

SPEAKER_06 56:04

I don't think so. I I think I think Drake and Rose make good music together, but I think it's not as like pivotal. It's it's great, don't get it twisted. Like SMR and music and money in a grave. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 56:18

Oh, Rose is they got rose shit. YOLO. Yeah, yeah. No, YOLO was supposed to that's Rick and Ross' not on YOLO.

SPEAKER_06 56:24

But YOLO YOLON LIFE Twice. That's what you want. Yeah. But I mean, uh him and Future is different, though.

SPEAKER_01 56:30

You think that's Drake's best collaborator? Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 56:32

100%.

SPEAKER_01 56:33

You think you think alright, you think that Drake is Future's best collaborator?

SPEAKER_05 56:41

I'm gonna say yeah. I do. Okay.

SPEAKER_06 56:44

No, actually, I might lie though, because Drake, I don't know, it's hard for both of them. That was gonna be who I said, but I also wanna say Drake in 21. I know a lot of people don't like it, but her laws I mean, that might that's probably better. I'm not mad at that. Just don't say Travis. Uh I think Travis sucks. That was Taji Burris, ladies and gentlemen. I do not care, bro. I think he had a good album.

SPEAKER_01 57:10

Yeah. But I I think all fun and games thought niggas send you them two free front row tickets to Astro World.

SPEAKER_06 57:16

Yeah, I'm not gonna. I'm probably selling though. I ain't gonna lie. Sell him to the never mind.

SPEAKER_01 57:20

Great shoe, man. Great shoe man, Travis Scott. Yeah, great shoe man. Where's Drake's place in rap currently? Is he still top dog? Is he still the guy? Is he fighting for to get his spot back?

SPEAKER_06 57:30

This is it's an interesting perspective because you would think he needs to, I don't know. Like among like critics and like fans like us, he probably ain't top dog. You know what I mean? But right now, it's not many people you can say. Like you can't even really say, like, when I think of top dog, I'm thinking somebody who's gonna like please the casual fans, who gonna please the hardcore hip hop niggas, who gonna, you know, do well, like not just like critically or commercially, but both, like all of that. And we not really getting too much of that right now. Like you can say Kendrick, but it's been a minute. You can say You can say Cole. But don't you can say Cole. Nah. Alright. I don't I just didn't like his album. Like, I'm gonna be honest. Like, I I didn't. I thought more specifically on the first album.

SPEAKER_01 58:21

That was she main J. Cole meets for you?

SPEAKER_06 58:22

Yeah, the production was very lacking. Like on the first, I don't know, man. That's just I but I but it's also like I'm not a J. Cole hater, so it's like not even me. Niggas was like, oh, you just you're not smart enough to understand J. Cole. Like, no, I really fuck with James. That's one of the ones right there. I really fuck with J. Cole. I just didn't like the album, bruh. And I don't like a lot of his albums.

SPEAKER_01 58:41

I just don't think he got too many classics. You're not smart enough to understand J. Cole. When niggas say I'm the shit, but you can't out fuck me.

SPEAKER_06 58:46

Yeah, like you hit you. Alright, it's all good. Cause you're gonna get me start slandering somebody I actually like. Hey man. I don't know when the next time you go with me on the episode. Yeah, sure. Might as well right now, yeah. But it's not, I feel like music right now, like rap right now, only thing I consistently bump that's like new is clips. Like rap wise. Like Don Tav, I don't really count that, you feel me? But like clips and like, you know, Griselda and Freddie Gibbs, shit like that. Like I've really been on like a like a lyrical, miracle, spiritual. Like, you feel me? Like, but it's not really too much going on that's really like making me rush to listen. Like, I f I did love ASAP Rocky's album. Yeah, it had some joints, but it wasn't like I like probably like five, but maybe more, like, but it didn't still like how not I I'm a big Rocky fan, but I just don't think Rocky's Pets Couple albums been anything noteworthy. You know what I mean? I feel like rap in general is just not in a great place. I don't think, and I'm not saying Drake is the savior, nothing like that, because I might be like, yo, we'll see rap born without Drake. Like, for all the dogs isn't great either, like in my opinion. Like, I don't think it was I don't think it was really good. I thought it was just fine. Rap in general was just very lacking as a whole genre. I I like GNX by Kendrick, but you know, that's that's really like before that he had the Mr. Morale I didn't really like. So rap just needs a it needs a kick in the butt, as as old his be saying. Very lacking right now. And I don't know what what or who's gonna do what to save it, aside from, you know.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:16

Yeah, because it's tough, and we have these conversations a lot too. The death of monoculture, the death of one big culture, the death of people not having I go to 106 in part to get my music, I go to the radio to get my music, I go to these trusted sources and these trusted places, definitely plays into that, because now we're in a position where it's like, oh damn, I don't really know who to rock with. I don't know who I don't I don't know who to go to, I don't know who to turn to for real.

SPEAKER_06 1:00:44

That's another thing, right? Like you said, like man, media platforms for the most part are ass right now, bro. Like, same cut you cutter questions.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:52

Yeah. Right. No doubt I ain't like that whole interview. I don't know if we ever talked about that. I ain't really I I didn't really feel it either.

SPEAKER_06 1:00:58

Yeah, and it's like it isn't it is not me slighting anybody or anything in particular. It's just I don't know if it's maybe, you know, they're getting, you know, maybe the talent or like, hey, I don't want to talk about this or whatever the case may be, so don't talk, you know, it's it's a lot of stuff that happens like that behind the scenes. So it's like I don't want to say, oh, this report or this interview didn't do a good job, whatever the case may be.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:17

Because you never know how they cut it up, you don't know what restrictions were on and so on and so forth.

SPEAKER_06 1:01:21

They could have after kind after the interview was recorded, they could have been like, yo, like I actually don't like this part, can't take this part, you know. But I say that to say, man, media, like, man, you talk frequently, like, I don't love media in general right now. Like, the place media is in is bad. Like, it's oversaturated with the same content. Why do I why do I need to see this person on seven different interview platforms and they all cover in the same thing? That same exact shit, yeah. Like, for what?

SPEAKER_01 1:01:45

At least if you go on, at least if you go on Mellow podcast, you're gonna talk about ball.

SPEAKER_06 1:01:48

Yeah, you're gonna get some different perspective there. Make one or the other, like, you know, I mean some fun shit. Like, it's just it's it's not that right now in media. Media is just very oversaturated and and underutilized in the aspect of you know, getting across important stories that may not be heard in the music or may not be seen on a movie screen or the TV screen. Like, so I I think everybody needs to huddle up and figure out what's next, bro. Real shit, bro. Like, this shit is so dead. Like, it's it's and that's how you feel me. I and everybody goes through those ebbs and flows, like wrestling did it, you know, even sports interests do it. Like your team may be tanking, you feel me? And next year they gonna be bad, but yeah, that you're gonna be really investing in because they could, whatever the case may be.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:30

Like, it's just making sure that making sure that this is a bad year or a bad stretch, and it's not boxing.

SPEAKER_06 1:02:36

Bingo.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:37

You feel me? It's not baseball. Which baseball wanna come up now, but baseball wanna come up now after what fucking at least 20, 25 years, steroid era they was popping.

SPEAKER_06 1:02:45

Mm-hmm. You saw they they did the they had to make changes for like the foul balls and stuff, like figure out some ways to make changes on this on this shit to make it stick out again, bro. Like, you gotta be able to adjust.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:55

I mean, Jack Hollow tried.

SPEAKER_06 1:02:56

Monica. He's back, ladies and gentlemen. He was back. But that's even like I'm you know me, I'm not a Jack Hollow fan at all. But shit, yo try. You know what I mean? Like you said, it was ass. I I didn't even listen, I'm gonna say it's ass. You feel me that's that's the hater in me. But it was ass. So, but you tried, and you got people talking about you. But a lot of people say that's publicity is any publicity, right? If they not talking, they don't give a fuck, whether it's good or bad. Well, I mean, hey, that's that's that's working out for the uh white common sense. But but that yeah, everybody need to just revamp their shit, bro. Huddle up, figure out what's next, man. Because if if you want to do the same thing as the next person, then you're not really contributing nothing.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:40

Yeah, and so to piggyback up that, I hate that phrase. I don't even know why the fuck I end up saying that, but one of the dopest things to me, if y'all listen to this, y'all know I'm not the biggest Kanye man in this day and age, but I have to respect someone like Kanye, even Method Man, when he broke down his flow on M E T H O D, man, and how it was influenced by another genre. I think that would I think that what would sorely help Rhett is these artists that are coming up now being more open than than I was or we were to listening to other genres, being being influenced by a Nirvana, uh a David Bowie, uh a Paul McCartney, like really music is music, you feel me? So being able to take in them sounds and them elements, even flip them samples or flip a flow. You might hear a motherfucker doing a pop uh singing some shit on a pop song and then take that melody and flip it. Even Feature talked about the importance of melodies. He talked about on Good Cushion Alco or how he was influenced by it was like London Bridges Falling Down or some shit. But Feature always said, like, if I can make a good melody, I can make a hit song.

SPEAKER_06 1:04:38

I'm gonna challenge you on that, right? Because I'm I feel like, and this is not just a thought to you, but I feel like rap is the only genre where people are like, oh, like you should listen to more, you should do more, you shouldn't just be a rap artist, which I don't think is fair, because you probably don't hear a lot of white people talking to a pop star saying, hey, you should it's probably something that ain't gonna get it twisted, but hey, you should you should do more rap. I don't think that's they I know certain people, but I don't think that's a fair assessment of what they do, so I don't think we need to do that. I just challenge them just to be more creative in general. I'm not even saying go listen to the same.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:14

I'm not even saying the same thing.

SPEAKER_06 1:05:15

Yeah, but I just don't want to be like, hey, oh, I gotta listen to rap, I gotta listen to pop, I gotta listen to, you know, I mean, do your history, of course, and you know, listen to other whatever case may be, if that's what you want to listen to. But I just say just don't be the same exact person as the guy who came before you, or the guy who came after you, or the guy who's you're competing with, whatever the case may be. Because again, it's not to you, but for like black culture in general was always is like, oh, think about like wrestling. Oh, you only like WWE, so you don't like real wrestling. Like, what the fuck does that mean?

SPEAKER_07 1:05:48

Yeah. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_06 1:05:49

Like, you only like rap, so you don't you don't really know about music. Like, no, rap is a big part of music.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:56

Yeah, and I think I'm saying the inverse. I'm saying the inverse of like, be A rapper, but understand all the genres. Understand all the shit is black music at the end of the day, too. Fair. Like fair from blues to jazz, rock and roll. Like, I think that sometimes artists, and it's also like Textone had a tweet back that day. He was like, Meek Mill would be a better rapper if he rap more. It's that same kind of idea of like that.

SPEAKER_06 1:06:16

I think that's great.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:17

Same kind of idea of like be open to taking all that. Like, don't just rap to sound like the person that you look up to or the people around your way or whatever it may be. Take in all of the influences from all the genre and let that dictate your rap. It might even be as small as like the only change is that you go in a bar, you reference Elton John instead of referencing Lil John. But the deeper the bag is, for sure. It's gonna reciprocate.

SPEAKER_06 1:06:40

I think I think reading is a great, is a great source. Just, I mean, loosening up your vocabulary. You don't have to be super deeper, you know, rapping everything gotta be five syllables, like, nah. But I think, you know, using a word that you may not use, you may not have used before, but it could be the ending punch on your verse that that sounds better than whatever generic word you're about to use. You know what I mean? Real shit. I think reading's a that helped me. I mean, of course, but it helps me when I'm writing. You know what I mean? Like, oh shit. Like, and then once it becomes a regular term in your vocabulary, you know, that shit gonna be easy to rap. Real shit.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:18

So real shit. Alright. Getting towards the end of the end of this this session here with the good brother Taji Burris. You want people to follow you? You want me to say your name? They can. I don't give a fuck if that's one. Ask them Taji on social media.

SPEAKER_06 1:07:33

I'm I'm bet the uh I think I'm I'm bet the lost 94 bricks on Twitter. Since I don't uh because only only changed it for banner. For the banner. But you know, since I'm since I'm not media related to anybody no more, I don't gotta have my name out there. So I think I'm I think I changed back the lost 94 bricks. Free agent shit. When you're a free agent, you can do shit like that. Shit. Once you retired, you can do shit like that.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:52

I mean both, huh?

SPEAKER_06 1:07:53

This this this one this one, you know what I mean? This one one night thing. I ain't really this like MJ coming at like a little T1-2, you feel me? But his T12 partner is like LeBron. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_01 1:08:03

The same man at the fourth rope show. Hey. Less wash, though. Hey. For four mobility. That was a real deep cut. Shout out to all the all the real wrestling fans that know what the fuck I just said.

SPEAKER_06 1:08:12

That was a moment, too.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:13

Hold your head, hold your head, hold your head, hold your head, hold your head. We're gonna start with Tim Cook. Tim Cook, hold your head. Probably misguided, because I'm sure you got some kind of good payout to leave Apple. You're probably gonna become some kind of board member, some kind of executive, keep getting paid. But Apple Apple didn't Apple didn't come up in the ways that it needs to under Tim Cook. So Tim Cook holds your head. I'm interested to see how his legacy is interrogated, especially now just now, just now thinking about consumer sentiment. The gap that the iPhone had on a lot of phones isn't as drastic. It's they're still prevalent because everybody got them, but Apple had the ball in a way that generations previous previous, they talked about IBM and they talked about Microsoft. Yeah. Again, Apple was still BMF. Apple's still a top five Apple is still a top five company. G unit. They're still gonna do what they do in the stock exchange, but dipset. Tim Cook stepping down is definitely he's definitely not stepping down as the the conquering hero or with the legacy of a Steve Jobs. And you know, I ain't I ain't a Steve Jobs man. If you want to learn more about Steve Jobs and Steve Jobs being a piece of shit, I like a podcast called Behind the Bastards. They do serious on some of the most horrible people throughout history. So I I see I see do your Googles, do your research on Steve Jobs. You know, if you want to leave a voicemail about damn BDJ, I ain't know Steve Jobs ain't take care of his kids. Well, now you know. I didn't know he was Carmel Malone without the pedophilia. Now you know. So hold your head, Tim Cook. May retirement treat you well. Also gotta give a very special hold your head to Mary J. Blige. I interview clip dropped on Mary J. Blige, still mad as fuck about that Bird King chicken commercial. Like really mad, legit mad. Charlie hadn't seen it, so he watched it right before the episode. He just was geeking, like he just started laughing. She really was mad about that shit.

SPEAKER_04 1:10:03

Yo, but I'm glad you said I started laughing because she was literally saying not everything is funny. So I'm sorry for laughing.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:12

Everything she said worked against her and made it even more funny. I think that she said that that her fans were upset about the chicken commercial, which is which is fair. I don't think that anyone outside of her most hardcore fans feel too too bad about it. It's just kind of a funny thing that happened that when niggas think about Mary J. Blas is probably not in the top 10 things they think about if they really know. But hold your head, because you went you you're gonna go viral if you didn't already go viral for that clip, and it's gonna just drag up all of the feelings that you didn't want to feel about this chicken commercial, and probably gonna get some remixes, some memes, probably gonna be a motherfucker dancing with some tomahawks by a grill or something. It's it's gonna get wicked. So so Mary J. Blige, Monet Chihada, the the goat, the goat, the queen of RB. Yeah. Hold your she's the queen of RB, right?

SPEAKER_05 1:10:59

Yeah, I I'd say so.

SPEAKER_01 1:11:00

I would say so.

SPEAKER_05 1:11:01

Yeah. Hold your head. I'm sorry for laughing, too. I yell. You laughing right now. She said no, I'm not. I yell. Again, you acting when you still laughing.

SPEAKER_01 1:11:14

Why are you doing this to me? I ain't chat. Drop your jingles in the voicemail box. You can sing about chicken. You can sing about Arby's chin sandwiches. Whatever, whatever does your heart good. I didn't do this stuff.

SPEAKER_04 1:11:28

Is this camera on me?

SPEAKER_01 1:11:34

Hey man, he need to hold his hand too. I know it's bad for him. I know it's bad for him. Last but not least, America's favorite segment. We're gonna shout out the homies, shout out to the homies. Uh special shout out to the Marcus Graham Project. The Marcus Graham Project is a nonprofit organization open to creating marketing opportunities and pathways for people of color. And just a really, just a really dope group. I got the pleasure, the privilege of of attending and completing a workshop. I want to say it was 2022, 2023, where we worked with the Washington Wizards, Fanatics, Hannesy, Monumental Sports and Entertainment. And we were a marketing firm for three days. Shout out to my teammates. And it was just such an eye-opening experience, a dope experience, seeing the pressure that you're in as a marketer, as a real marketer, building those connections, coming up with a presentation, coming up with this is what we would do. If we were to promote Hennessy for the Washington Wizards and need to get these partners involved, this is what we would do. It was really dope. And that's that's not just isolated to me. They do things all across the country. So big shout out to Marcus Grant Project. They just got featured in Forbes, a Forbes article about the founders and the good work that they're doing. You can find them at MG Project. If you talk to me and you're in marketing or you're a creative person, I probably recommend it that you sign up for a workshop or I just taught you about the shit in general. But that's what that's what it's all about, man. We talk a lot about being the change you want to see. And they were inspired because they didn't see enough of us in these rooms coming up with marketing campaigns. So they decided we're going to get back and make more opportunities for us. I also want to give a shout-out. This shout out is near and dear to my hurt heart. It's a shout out and a happy belated birthday to my cousin, my blood. Love you so much. Celeste, she is the founder and operator of something good, foods and events. Yeah. Good food. You had to cook it. Okay, yeah. I was just about to ask. No, she cooked for the rest of the middle party when I was right now.

SPEAKER_06 1:13:38

81. 81 food right there, man.

SPEAKER_01 1:13:41

And I'm not just saying this because she's my cousin. I'm not just saying this because I love her. I'm not just saying this because I think that she's one of the most brilliant people I've ever met. Not just with cooking, but she she she does everything from cooking to cook books to one day she decides I'm gonna make some soap and some deodorant. She'll create some desserts and some she's just she's just a dope person, but something good, food and events, at something good foods for all your catering needs. Please holla at her. Tell her Jordan sent you. She might give you a discount. She'll definitely look out. Her shit is good regardless, but if you tell her you you know me, you know her favorite cousin, we're gonna clean that old wax. If anybody else listen, I'm sorry you had to find out this way.

SPEAKER_06 1:14:18

I have no stock in this, and the food is A1, so I'd highly recommend it.

SPEAKER_01 1:14:22

And she could cook every style. So Taji has a uh seafood allergy, so she made sure to put emphasis on everything since he wouldn't be able to eat one thing. And yeah, it was yeah, that food was A1, man.

SPEAKER_06 1:14:35

For sure. Definitely check her out, absolutely.

SPEAKER_01 1:14:38

So shout out to Cuz. Shout out to my brother Taji for joining me, the first guest in the history of the Big Dream Show.

SPEAKER_06 1:14:44

Hey man, before you continue, I just want to say thank you, bro. You know, inviting me on to be the first guest when I told you I don't want to do media no more. You got me out here. For sure. You feel me? At my day off work, my day off my regular nine to five, and I just, you know, it's been a great day just kicking in with you, talking up, you know. Um thank you. I love what you're doing. I'm proud of you. I remember you saying you was planning on doing this and you put the work down. You put your head down, you put the work in. You just got activated and you created something beautiful. So I'm gonna give you your flowers while I'm here too, you feel me? So just keep going. I'm sure all your listeners are proud of you. I'm proud of you. So, you know, I know what you went through. I know how resilient you are. You're doing something great, bro.

SPEAKER_01 1:15:21

I receive that, bro. And I'm I'm grateful. I'm grateful to be in this position. I'm grateful to have a platform of my own. I'm grateful that I can do shit, like bring my friends in here on Wednesday afternoons and talk shit about the world wrestling, hold niggas accountable for not doing what they need to do. It's dope, it's dope, and it's a great, it's a great era, man. I'm just excited to see how it continues to evolve, how I continue to evolve. I know you saying you're retired and this is a one-off thing, but anytime you want to come back through, I'm sure the people will be happy to have you. And as always, stay tuned to the Big Dream Show. Show love, show support, rock with your boy, send a DM. I'm I'm very accessible. I might be too accessible. I might start being more Hollywood soon.

SPEAKER_06 1:16:04

You should be like 2011 niggas and like be fake mysterious.

SPEAKER_01 1:16:07

Oh, like the party next door in the weekend? It's too late though, because I already ruined the mistake.

SPEAKER_06 1:16:13

Who cares? Just do it. You know, just revamp your whole thing. Just be. That's how niggas they they move to a different area, you know what I mean? They be acting like they was the man before. That's the cheat code. Yeah, man. That's the cheat code.

SPEAKER_01 1:16:24

New York niggas love doing that. I was in the uh we we go in that episode soon, but I was with Black Earl. I used to work, so when I worked for Black Ear, I used to be in some some some of the more uh I'll put it this way, some of the some of the neighborhoods people didn't really, didn't really want to go to. And one at one of the one of these particular neighborhoods, I'm out there, we had no food and whatnot doing uh doing a food giveaway. And this dude came up who's like, I don't want to say clearly homeless, but you know, going through some hard times, going through some rough times. Some talk to me, like, yeah, you know, I'm from up New York, you know, I don't really I don't really fuck with it down here. It's too slow down here, blah, blah, woody woo.

SPEAKER_05 1:16:57

Too slow down here.

SPEAKER_01 1:16:58

I'm like, word, like how long you been down here? Yeah, man, like 20 years. It's like, all right.

SPEAKER_05 1:17:04

All right. Well, I mean, all right, it's all good, man. All right. And on that note, we out. Ow. Exciting things are happening in Burger Games.

SPEAKER_00 1:17:15

Welcome to Burger Games.

SPEAKER_05 1:17:16

Oh, what's in those new chicken snack wraps? What's in the new chicken snack?