6. Jermaine Jackson's Hairdo ft. Kirstyn Alexandra

In this episode, BD is joined by the homie Kirstyn "K" Alexandra to investigate why Black people love Cinco De Mayo so much, review Michael, share thoughts on the Migos reunion, McDonald's removing soda fountains, address the growing voicemail beef, and more.

Kirstyn Alexandra is a writer, creative strategist, and cultural observer with a passion for conversations on media, culture, creativity, and personal growth. She is also the founder of AYTH HAUS, a multidisciplinary media company centered on storytelling, culture, and creative expression. Through her work and personal platforms, she explores identity, ambition, and what it means to build a life with intention. Her interests span publishing, music, digital culture, and the ways people connect and express themselves through art.

Transcript

SPEAKER_05 0:33

What it is, what it is. It's I'm your host, Jordan BDJ Sailor, and we're back for episode six of the Big Dream Show. Today's gonna be a fun episode. I got my water on me. I'm properly caffeinated. We about to get it popping. Very special guest this week. You didn't send me a bio, so I guess I gotta kinda freestyle it. I mean, yeah, freestyle it. But we got Kirsten in the building, Kirsten Alexandra, aka K. As she's called now, she's rebranding into a single, a single letter name. Um this is my dog, though. This is my dog. With the guests on this show so far, with her, with Taji, these are people that I I trust very closely. These are people that if I have a creative idea or I have some shit I'm thinking of, she's one of the people that I go to. Like, hey, this makes sense if this bullshit is ass. And she'll let me know if it's ass or not. Yeah. And I appreciate that. Yeah, dumb yourself, my creative accountability partner. Absolutely. And likewise, real creative. You about to get in your bag and do some working on it. By the time this episode comes out on Friday, you should have something.

SPEAKER_02 1:37

I will have something.

SPEAKER_05 1:38

Yeah, you should have something brand new for the people to sleep. How you feeling?

SPEAKER_02 1:42

I'm feeling good. You know, I'm glad to be here today. I'm excited to see what we're gonna talk about. I know we uh we often like to talk shit and you know, talking shit comes very easy to us. For sure. So yeah, I'm just I'm just looking forward to it. You know, I'm happy to be an esteemed guest on your new show. So appreciate it. Thanks for having me. Ah, ain't no thing. An esteemed guest.

SPEAKER_05 2:05

Esteemed, yeah, that was a that's an SAT word. Yeah. So, little housekeeping note. We the last couple episodes we've been doing voicemails on the front end, but we actually have two voicemails this week, so we're gonna do them later in the episode. I'm excited for y'all to hear them. Last week's voicemail from books regarding Arby's Gate and my font size was very controversial. Got a lot of fract, a lot of traction, a lot of conversation around that. So there's definitely a response to that. You know. But we'll just get into it. We'll get into these these goddamn ground rules. Y'all know the routine. If you're new here, then stick around. I'm about to break down basically just how the show goes, things you might need to know, things that might be important to you. If you aren't new here, go ahead and skip ahead 30, 45 seconds, and yeah, we don't really talk shit. But first things first, ground rule number one. These thoughts are strictly my own and do not reflect the views of any family, friends, partners, affiliates, or associates. Ground rule number two, we use vulgar language here. Fuck shit ass pissed down. If you're in a it's a vulgar word. Independent when you're around.

SPEAKER_02 3:15

Okay.

SPEAKER_05 3:15

You have the same in church. But if you're around fuckers who don't want to hear bad words right now, you're at work, you're in the car with your, I don't know, your son, your daughter, your niece, your nephew, whatever it may be. If you're in a situation where you can't play shit with bad words out loud, you probably should hold off and listen to this a little later. Ground rule number three as always, follow me. My mind goes a lot of different places. Hopefully, Kay's here she'll help keep me, keep me on track a little, a little more. But shit, we'll see. Yeah, because you be wild around the way. Yeah, I be. My brain be all over the place too. Yeah, we both about to be fucked up. So, yeah, follow me for sure. The way my mind goes, the way conversations go, sometimes it'll be a tangent. It might seem like it makes sense, doesn't make sense, or it might seem like it's unrelated. But then when you really get into it, it's like, oh, I get what that nigga was saying. But if you're not paying attention to listen, then you'll get lost in the sauce for real. So that's what all I ask, follow me, give me some attention. Number four, tell me if I'm tripping. On the same note, I'm human just like everybody else. So if I say some shit on this show, say some shit on this airways, and you like, nah, I don't know about that BD or this nigga tripping. Like, feel free to pull my cart. Feel free to email me, fucking DM me, mention me on axe. Leave a voicemail. Shit. As long as you respond to me.

SPEAKER_02 4:27

Yeah, honestly, use your voice and leave a voicemail so he can really hear you talk shit.

SPEAKER_05 4:31

So I can really hear him talk shit.

SPEAKER_02 4:32

Don't be a coward. Do not be a coward.

SPEAKER_05 4:38

All right. Number five, help this thing grow. Like, rate, subscribe, review, tell your friends, tell your families, tell your enemies, tell your friends, whatever the fuck. Just let him know. If you like this program, you like what I'm doing here, and help me to grow, help me to invest in it. I love hearing from y'all. I love the feedback, comments, DMs. The marketing has been real, like grassroots. I ain't even really put no, I ain't really put no action and no thought behind marketing. And we already have yielded a lot of success. So as this thing continues to grow, and it is like real live marketing strategies, and I am popping up here, popping up there. Do what you can to help support. And you know we're gonna support back, whether it be like you got a homie I can shout out, you got a a brand that could be a sponsor, whatever it may be. We're always open to partnerships and relationship building. Because this podcast, while it's uh it's a uh escape for me and uh a way for me to express myself, it's also a tool that we can use to really build some shit and create some shit we want to see. And last but not least, the newest rule, I added this one last week, I think. But do your research. If I say some shit, if Kay says some shit, if Taji says some shit, if any future guests say some shit, don't take it at face value, don't take us as the end all be all. Really dig in the sources, really do your research, learn more about the things we talk about if they interest you. Because the more informed you are, the better chance you got. And just the better you come off. You don't want to be the motherfucker that can only talk about basketball and wrestling at the party. You want to be able to talk about geopolitical politics and oil prices across the world and the straight of horn movies. You want to be that well-rounded motherfucker, you don't you don't want to be that one no one no motherfucker. Yeah, alright. Always uh that was a mouthful. Always, every time. Every time. Because I keep saying I'm a pre-recorder, but then I never do. Um I think this might be the last week that I do them live. I'm really am about to I'm about to get my bag. School is is finishing up, so I'm about to have a little bit more free time to really do some adding and shit, shit like that. But yeah, let's get into let's get into it, man. It's a it's an interesting week. As we're recording this, it is Wednesday, May 6th. We are on the wheels of Cinco, is it? No.

SPEAKER_02 6:45

It is Seis de Mayo. Seis de Maya. Seis de Maya.

SPEAKER_05 6:48

But I want to ask you, because you uh you're one of my more lit friends. You have fun and party, you be in the streets. Why do niggas love Cinco de Mayo and Mexican shit so much?

SPEAKER_02 6:57

Honestly, aside from Mexican food being delicious, I think that, you know, black people, we just like to celebrate shit. Like, I think that as a people, we come from like a lot of adversity. And so any opportunity to celebrate, you know, we're we're down for it. And I think we also like appreciate other cultures. And like, you know, it's the it's the people, like the discourse warriors on Twitter and stuff, will be like who be like, oh, but like, does does this group of people celebrate black people and da-da-da-da-da. I mean, like, yeah, not like not necessarily, but like also don't think it has to be like, you know, transactional or reciprocal all the time. Like, I mean, if you don't want to, then like don't do it. Like, but I think that, yeah, I think that like black people, we're always happy to like celebrate or over-celebrate something. And I tell you one thing, yesterday when I was celebrating single de mayo, you know, I had a great time. I was also, you know, salsa dancing or, you know, doing a little, doing a little two-step, whatever it was. Yeah, yeah, you know, a little, a little bachata, a little merengue, I guess. You know, like I was I was getting into it, you know what I'm saying? Cause like I just like to have a good time. And I think, I think like, I think that also as a black person, it's just that, you know, shit can be so challenging, like, you know, with the things that we experience as people. So it's like, shit, if you can let your hair down and enjoy a fucking margarita, some good music, why not? Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 8:29

It's like we also just love Mexican shit. Like, niggas love a good taco Tuesday. Love Taco Tuesday. Henny had to run. Henny and Ducey had to had to run. They had the game on lock, but then as soon as the tequila boys came through, it seemed like tequila had been on like a 10-year Odyssey.

SPEAKER_02 8:45

Yeah, I feel like also like in college, we were so I don't know, I think we were so backwards when it came to liquor. So like in college, everybody was like drinking more dark and stuff, and then we got older. At least I feel like at least for like me and my friend group, like we got older and then we transitioned into tequila at like 24, 25. But like, it's crazy now. The kids these days, I know I blame everything on TikTok. They be drinking tequila out the gate. I'm like, damn, like y'all really did not, like, didn't switch lanes. You just already, you always been in this lane. Like, that's interesting. Yeah, but yeah, like, you know, like Henny and Duce really, oh God, that's just it's disgusting even think about it. It was literally an error. Like, I mean, now in my older age, I do prefer, I do prefer like dark over tequila, because tequila gives me like bad hangovers, but it's not henny or douce.

SPEAKER_05 9:42

Do you have any hangover advice for the people that may be listening?

SPEAKER_02 9:45

Oh man. BC powder. Like, literally. Oh, you're my old nigga for real. The BC powder. Like, I keep I keep BC powder on deck. Like, specifically the orange flavor, you know, they do come in flavors, so no, but the orange flavor tastes better than your original, but like, yeah, BC powder, you know, don't get too, don't get too comfortable with it because, for example, I think it was like raising my blood pressure a little bit. But yeah, BC powder and then like actual like the electrolyte drinks, like they sell them in a giant. Liquid IV, I feel like I love liquid IV, don't have the same power they used to, but also I think liquid IV is kind of nasty now. The electrolyte drinks taste a lot better than liquid IV. It's basically pedialite, like essentially. But pregame and post-game with the electrolytes, for real.

SPEAKER_05 10:37

Imagine you in a grocery store, you hung over with one pile left, and she won't the mother of two. You feel me? She got a newborn on her arm. Oh God. Are you s are you sliding her out for the for the pediolite?

SPEAKER_02 10:49

No, I'm gonna I'm gonna let her have a pediolite.

SPEAKER_05 10:53

That's crazy. Oh my god. I don't get them electrolytes.

SPEAKER_02 10:59

I mean, honestly, like when you don't have your electrolytes, it definitely makes the day worse for everybody around you. Like, like any anytime I'm hungover, like, I mean, I've I've tried to be better about it, but it's just like I'm just not really a good time. Like, I just I'm tired. Most people aren't. Yeah, I'm cranky. You know, it's it's better for me to get myself together than for me to try to fake it. Sorry to that baby though, that you're gonna take that pity away from it. Damn, that's crazy.

SPEAKER_05 11:29

That's getting ugly. If it's you or me, it gotta be me. It's got you say every man for himself. Yeah, every man will be a good one. And every baby for himself. Yeah, it's all love. I need that. I need that for sure. Do you think that Juneteenth, do you think that in response to niggas turning up in the way that they did for Sinco the Mayo this year? Because I feel like this, I feel like it's been a growing, it's been a growing undercurrent of niggas really getting turned. And I'm sorry, I apologize in advance for how many times I said niggas already. But I feel like it's just been a growing undercurrent of niggas. I feel like Floyd Mayweather actually kicked it off when he came out with the mariachi, with the mariachi band. LOL. I remember that. I remember that. He started the wave and niggas like, yo, this Mexican shit kind of wavy. Like it's the new version of back in the 90s when everybody wanted to be an Italian mobster. Now I'm not saying. Yeah, and you think that other races are going to flock to our soul food establishments and carryouts to celebrate Juneteenth?

SPEAKER_02 12:20

Absolutely not. And like a lot of it just goes down to the fact that like other races don't like black people. Like, like, you know, like other races do not like black people. They like other races, I and I I'm not I'm not saying obviously everybody, but I'm not sure.

SPEAKER_05 12:35

I'm not saying we like black people.

SPEAKER_02 12:38

But I'm saying, I'm saying, like, as a collective, like, like even think about just the the the friction over even making Juneteenth a holiday, like a federal holiday. Like, you know, and it's like, why did why did making Juneteenth even have to, you know, making it a federal holiday even have to be such a big deal? You know, like we have we have all these other federal holidays, and well, it was a big deal because it literally celebrates black people's emancipation. And then most of the country is like, why the fuck would we do that? You know, most of the country don't even want to acknowledge that slavery was a real thing, you know. And I think like and I think that, well, and not just that it was a not only that it was a real thing, but also that it was as atrocious and horrible as it actually was. But I think when it comes to black people, it's just I don't I don't know, you know, as as a people, I think that we you know, it's just like when it comes to the celebrate and shit, it's just like we it's yeah, it's it's just like it's just like we the best and it's like damn, you know, we we we just we we want to celebrate and have a good time. Like we don't, you know, we we don't we don't need to find a good reason to do it. I feel like I feel like any any person or or you know cultural group that has an issue like you know with like coming out to celebrate Juneteenth, right? They might be like, well, why would I do that? It doesn't have anything to do with me. I mean, I'm not Mexican. Single de mayo technically has nothing to do with me, right? But I mean like we're we're all here in America.

SPEAKER_05 14:12

Yeah, we all Mexicans for real.

SPEAKER_02 14:14

Like on Single de Mayo, we shit. I mean, you know what I'm saying? We we we all here, we all just vibing. Okay, you know, especially if you live in Chicago.

SPEAKER_05 14:25

You know, I don't, but if you if you did, I'd be right there by that water. Me and me and my man Seamus are them, nigga.

SPEAKER_02 14:33

Seamus and uh McAllister.

SPEAKER_05 14:35

That's a that's the last name on the first name.

SPEAKER_02 14:37

That was the last name. Seamus McAllister McDougall, guys.

SPEAKER_05 14:43

But nah, you can you can find me St. Patrick's Day. Hey, shout out to shout out to my uncle. My uncle manages a restaurant, it's an Irish pub in Timonium. He is a black man managing the Irish pub. Great time. It's called on point. I don't know how to say it. We just call it the still.

SPEAKER_02 14:57

Oh my god, I think I know what you're talking about. I'll be in there. Yeah, I think I know what you're talking about. And honestly, my sister's birthday is on St. Patrick's Day, so I technically celebrate St. Patrick's Day every year. See? Yep, I've celebrated it 21 times so far. So yeah, I was up there at 9, 10 a.m.

SPEAKER_05 15:11

at the pub with uh with that. You were Guinness, I was in there, man.

SPEAKER_02 15:15

I was like, who does this nigga think he is?

SPEAKER_05 15:18

I'm Seamus, Seamus McDougal.

SPEAKER_02 15:20

Seamus McDougal.

SPEAKER_05 15:23

New alter ego unlocked. So the main idea is black people keep celebrating. Fuck that, fuck that dumb shit. We probably ain't gonna be cool on 4th of July. I think when y'all race star to be cool on 4th of July, you know, might still cook out, but more low-key. Yeah, I mean, like patriotic, diplomatic, man.

SPEAKER_02 15:40

Like I mean, like, when it comes to 4th of July, like, niggas aren't celebrating for celebrating 4th of July to like fucking celebrate the country of America's independence, you know. When it comes to 4th of July, we really just celebrating a good time. Like, we're celebrating what it means to us as a people. It's cookouts, it's fireworks, it's good food, it's fellowship, it's some drinks. You might have a huggy or two. You might have a huggy, you might have a freezy pop. I mean, like, those things are what's important, you know what I'm saying? Like, we have we have Juneteenth. We actually don't need to celebrate, you know, the country of America's freedom from Great Britain. So, but it's like what I will be celebrating is that it's a fucking beautiful day. What's your favorite holiday? I wasn't gonna say that. That's funny. What's my favorite holiday?

SPEAKER_05 16:37

Damn, that's a good question. That's why I'm a five-star host.

SPEAKER_02 16:42

What's my favorite holiday? You know, I don't really I don't really know what my favorite holiday is for like the actual reason for the holiday. I like what holidays represent. Like Christmas to me, I love Christmas because you know what it means to my family, and it's like a good time for fellowship. Fourth of July, I love Fourth of July for the same reasons. It's fun. And it's like I love fireworks. I fucking love fireworks. So it's like anytime that I can enjoy some fireworks, I'm gonna do that. I have a great time on Halloween pretty much every year. I would say this though, I would say this. I do like the drag on Juneteenth, though. Okay. I have a great time on Juneteenth. Okay.

SPEAKER_05 17:23

Like what does drag mean for the people in the audience?

SPEAKER_02 17:28

Drag thing. You know, I've never had to define drag before. Drag is like okay, I would say before the pandemic and before like the term being outside was a thing. It's like, yeah, like we really dragging. Like we just, you know, we just going with the flow outside, you know, you up and down the highway. Really, like, it really means like, you know, you dragging your nuts. Like you really, you really outside just doing you.

SPEAKER_05 17:55

Running the streets.

SPEAKER_02 17:56

Yeah, like you, you really just like running the streets, doing you, just having a good time with your friends, maybe doing some hood rash shit. If if you're into that, bro. Maybe flexing on your enemies. Yeah, flexing on your enemies, flexing on your ass.

SPEAKER_05 18:12

I'm up. Like motherfuckers that praying on my downfall. Just know you need to pray harder and find a new religion, bitch. I'm sorry. I don't know what just happened.

SPEAKER_02 18:20

Oh my god. I think he just, I think he, I think the microphone just became his just became his enemy. I don't know. Whoa.

SPEAKER_05 18:25

I just looked down at his bracelet.

SPEAKER_02 18:27

I wish, I wish y'all could have seen that in real life. Like, this nigga's whole facial expression and body language changed. Hey man. Oh my god, it just got real heated in the studio.

SPEAKER_05 18:36

Speaking of, speaking of real niggas whose facial expressions and body language changed. I seen that Michael Jackson movie over the weekend.

SPEAKER_02 18:42

Yeah, honestly, that man Jafar was possessed. That shit was crazy. Like, it was definitely some scenes where it was like, this is actually scary. Yeah, like it was so, it was so Michael Jackson in some scenes that it was actually scary. Like every time he turned his head, like, like, like a little smirk. Yeah, like, yeah, like every time he looked behind him and smirked. I'm like, this is not Jafar Jackson. This is Michael Jackson.

SPEAKER_05 19:08

I think that Jermaine Jackson is a liar. I think that Jermaine Jackson had that boy in the basement, like Joe. He just didn't beat him, he just talked to him softly.

SPEAKER_02 19:16

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 19:16

I think he had him doing dance moves. I think, yeah, I think that this was the master plan all along. Like, I couldn't be Michael. Michael got to be Michael, so I'ma get the next best thing. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 19:26

Because I'm like, he only did he only did this in two years. That's not possible. That's not possible. Like, it was so, it was so uncanny and so much of like a mirror effect of his uncle. There's no way he started doing this two years ago.

SPEAKER_05 19:41

You think if niggas gave you two years, you could play your aunt or uncle in a movie?

SPEAKER_02 19:47

I mean, I don't have many aunts or uncles that are talented. So it'd probably be easy. Like, I mean, like shit. Fair enough. All I had to do was embody the personality. I don't have to embody anything else about this.

SPEAKER_05 20:03

He had to look the part.

SPEAKER_02 20:04

Yeah, he had to look the part. He had to do everything. He had to be an animal lover. I mean, who knows if who knows if Jafar actually likes animals as much as Michael did? So he had to be. Like, imagine if he didn't like animals or he didn't care to have a bubbles, or like that llama, or something like that. Or like that giraffe. And then he had to pretend like he did. That honestly would be hard for me. I think that might be the hardest part of me playing Michael Jackson if I was Jafar Jackson, if I was Jafar Jackson, would be having to. I was just feminizing it. Would be having to pretend like I wanted to touch that fucking champion.

SPEAKER_05 20:42

Female versus Jafar can't be Jafar.

SPEAKER_02 20:44

Jafarra? Are you sure?

SPEAKER_05 20:48

Are you sure? I'm not not sure. Are you sure? Because one of the Milan movies, he probably got a daughter.

SPEAKER_02 20:55

I mean, do you realize that Jermaine Jackson named his other son Jer Majesty? I ain't gonna lie to you. So actually, anything is possible when it comes from when you come from Jermaine Jackson, any name is possible.

SPEAKER_05 21:06

So real quick, real quick on the movie, since I did see it now, I feel, and I I've been telling people this, I gotta make the explicit distinction. It's like a, in real life, it's like a four or five. It's like a five. I go to like a five or six out of ten as a movie. Because it it did the biopic thing where you move through a lot of shit, but you can't really the story is too big to be told in the amount of time that you have. And it also left me a lot to be desired just in terms of like the characterization of Michael Jackson. I feel like nigga had more agency than they showed. I feel like he was more of a cutthroat guy than they showed. I feel like he had more enemies than just Joe Jackson. Yes. Um, I feel like it just was a lot to be determined, but just as in like, I'm a fan of Michael Jackson, this motherfucker's on stage doing all the hit songs and like really admireing them. Like, that's a 12 out of 10.

SPEAKER_02 21:51

Yeah. No, yeah, I agree. I think that I mean, Michael Jackson wouldn't have become, you know, who he was as a A businessman and the other things that he did if he didn't have agency. So I was I was kind of thrown off that it that it didn't show that. They obviously showed him in in a certain light, kind of, you know, as his like soft-spoken self, but trying to like come from under like the grasp of his father and stuff like that. One thing that I do wish it did as a biopic was it had more perspective, like more point of view. Like there really was no reason for it to start out with the Jackson 5. We have the Jackson 5, the American Dream. But obviously, you know, the brothers wanted to show themselves as part of his story. But it's like we already had that. Granted, that other movie was unauthorized. But I just feel like, in my opinion, it really should have started like in the off the wall era. I agree. And then went through thriller. I agree. And like, because I feel like creatively, that was obviously like a big time for Michael Jackson. Kind of like, because off the wall, you know, it's like disco and shit like that. And obviously he was breaking away from like the the 60s, the 60s, 70s funk that like Jackson 5 became like famous for and stuff like that. So he was he was already in like his creative bag as a solo artist, but like when he came out with thriller, it's like nobody was making music that sounded like that. And I feel like that was a part of the movie that was really left out. Like it had literally one scene that showed his writing on the wall.

SPEAKER_05 23:23

And then had the shit when they did the music video and he was talking to John Landis, but it was kind of like a throwaway, and then went to the city. Exactly. Oh, this is like one of the most important directors of all time directing this music video. Yeah. And the Billy Jean shit. They kind of talked about how it broke the color barrier, but to your point, and I want to give a shout out to Anjara again. If y'all haven't already, and I don't mean Anjara, she wrote an article about it for Huffington Post and Van Lathan. Also, they both raised similar points around the same shit you saying, same shit we talked about, like the creative process. The way I break it down is like the way we talk about Michael Jordan, the way Michael Jackson approached his craft is the same shit. Like when you watch The Last Dance and you see Michael Jordan in that movie. Right. Comey Bryant on the Dream Team, no, the Regine team, whatever the fuck it was called.

SPEAKER_02 24:03

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 24:04

The Regine Team documentary where it's like, yeah, 3 a.m., 4 a.m. here in the gym and everything. Completely locked in. Yeah, it's like it wasn't enough of that. It really was just like a slideshow of his. It was like a highlight, real for real.

SPEAKER_02 24:16

Yeah, and I think I think it also highlighted too many like of his insecurities and kind of like like like obviously we already know, we already know so much of this, right? So it's like if I'm getting a new Michael Jackson movie, I would love to like get into his head. And it really could have just zoomed in on the 80s, like literally that's it. 1983, you know, through like the bad era, which is where it stops, obviously. But it's like that's really all. And like we really could have seen him like like having those conversations. Like, how how did he really come up with thriller aside from his like, oh yeah, I like scary movies? You know, it's like, it's like, no, like, how did he really come up with that concept? Yeah, like I'm like, I'm like, no, like he really created like a visual, a short film, which was something that had not been done before. And then it's like also just him as a businessman, and like when he was telling the lawyer, like, no, I really need you to like get through the, you know, Viacom and stuff like that. It's like, you know, I wanted to see more of that because it's like to have that fearlessness, but then also at the time to be like the biggest artist in the world, and he's a black man, the biggest artist in the world who who's a black man who still is like facing discrimination from like MTV, and they're like not. Yeah, right. And and who has literally been performing since he was five years old professionally, you know. So it's like there's so much more we could have gleaned from that. And I think the like the brothers could have also still been a part of the movie, but them niggas went upset.

SPEAKER_05 25:45

They didn't even really exist.

SPEAKER_02 25:47

What do you mean?

SPEAKER_05 25:47

Like the brothers didn't have no, like it was the Jackson 5 and the Jacksons were just like, all right, Michael, Michael, Michael. Like even the even the shit about Jermaine Leaving, it was like they talked about it on the it was Joe like in a throwaway piece of dialogue, like, yeah, your brother chose up.

SPEAKER_02 26:02

That's what that's a very interesting part of the story. Yeah, that was that was an interesting part of the story, and I feel like, like, for me, like, since the brothers were like, you know, exec executive producers or whatever.

SPEAKER_05 26:12

Just for Marlon Jackson, man.

SPEAKER_02 26:13

Yeah, I feel like, yeah, he was like non-existent. Like, since the brothers were like the executive producers and stuff, like they wanted the Jackson 5 part to be so much of it. But I'm like, I feel like I like it, it would, it would have been cool. It actually would have been cool in the movie when Michael was going back and forth with Joe about doing the victory tour to actually see that conflict with the brothers. Yeah, you know, like because I'm I'm sure them niggas was not like, hey, Michael, everybody was not like, hey, it's fine if you don't want to do it. You know, like somebody was like them niggas was like Brian Anton Jackson.

SPEAKER_05 26:44

Yeah, like Larry said, just like acquired, like, nigga.

SPEAKER_02 26:47

Like, please, like, like it's we don't have thrillers. We don't have, like, at least one of them was like, come on, please. Like, I feel like the only one who probably was like, oh, Michael's side was maybe like Jackie, like, hey, you know, it's fine, right?

SPEAKER_04 26:57

I feel like it was Tino. Tino seemed like oh yeah, Tino. Tino Tino's always seemed like a cool nigga.

SPEAKER_02 27:02

He's like it's he's like a lay a laid back guy. You know, but like I would have liked to see like, you know, Jermaine, especially, especially since Jermaine, you know, he had his like, he had his phony solo career. He probably was like, yo, please.

SPEAKER_05 27:13

We're not gonna call Jermaine phony, man. I'm sorry. I think that was his only hit.

SPEAKER_02 27:19

Okay. Yeah, that was that was the hit. Real lore, though. Real Lord. Like, but like it would have been cool to see, like, you know, like Jermaine really like calling Michael up at night, like, no, listen, please, like, go on tour with us. Like, stop, do this commercial with us, like, stop playing. Like, the movie made it seem like Joe was the only one applying pressure. I need more Jerry Kill Jesus, he needs more Beijing. Like, I don't know if it was even Beijing in the in the 80s. Like, when did Jermaine Jackson start doing his hair like that? And and how did he figure it out? Like, and he's never let it go. Like, do you think that one day Jafar's gonna start wearing his hair like that? I hope not. I hope not. I pray actually. I I did like, oh my god, did you see like when it was like the the pre-screen and like the red carpet and stuff, and then Jermaine's like tier old son and everything? People on Twitter was like, why does his hair look like that? And niggas was like, Because his father did it. Because like Jermaine literally did his hair like bro, but then he lied to I didn't do nothing to my hair. And it's a bald face lie.

SPEAKER_04 28:19

Let me be lying, though.

SPEAKER_02 28:20

Yeah, they do. Let me lying. Like, that is a both nobody's hair looks like that. There is nobody else in the world whose hair looks like Jermaine Jackson's hair.

SPEAKER_05 28:27

My mom, shout out to mom. I hope you listen to this episode. When Michael Jackson died, and they did like the memorial shit, and they were showing Jermaine, she was like, Jermaine Jackson's hair looks like a plastic piece that he thinks of is here that like a Lego and puts one and puts one as no, it it literally looks like, or he like uses like an envelope, one of those envelope openers, and he just like no like you know when you open an envelope and it's like that flat thing that you can like slide under like the uh the sticky part?

SPEAKER_02 28:56

It's I guess it's similar, it's similar to like a box cutter, but it's like it's a bougie box cutter. Yeah, it's like he just like runs that under, not along, under his hairline and just like peels and just like peels it off.

SPEAKER_05 29:08

Who's your favorite non-Michael, non-Janet Jackson?

SPEAKER_02 29:12

I was gonna say Janet Jackson. So who's my favorite Jackson other than Michael or Janet? I guess I say Jackie because he was fine. Fair enough. You know, I think I think you know, you know who I always forget about? Rebey. I I I wasn't gonna say Reeby, I was gonna say Randy.

SPEAKER_05 29:32

I mean Reeby Randy. Reeby Randy, yeah, like you know that Randy Jackson is not the nigga from America Idol.

SPEAKER_02 29:38

There's two of them, yes.

SPEAKER_05 29:41

Right.

SPEAKER_02 29:42

But I I tell you one thing, uh for a long time growing up, I did not realize that Randy Jackson of the Jacksons was a person as well as as well as Randy Jackson from the American Idol.

SPEAKER_05 29:54

And when I realized that You thought that that was Randy Jackson on American Idol.

SPEAKER_02 29:58

Yeah, maybe when I was like 10 or something, I was so confused.

SPEAKER_05 30:01

He's like, why he don't look like me?

SPEAKER_02 30:02

Yeah, I was like, why does he look completely like why does he look completely different? Like even with even with plastic surgery, all of them niggas look the same. You're like, this nigga don't sound like he's from Gary, Indiana. Yeah, his voice is different. Like, what? The Jacksons don't talk like that. Nah, but honestly, big shout out to Jana Jackson. Like, Jana Jackson's a goat. Jana Jackson truly is the goat. She is the blueprint.

SPEAKER_05 30:22

And she's one of the only people to ever be actually canceled. Cancelled? Yeah, niggas cancel Jana Jackson after a titty pop though.

SPEAKER_02 30:30

Oh.

SPEAKER_05 30:30

Ain't really canceled.

SPEAKER_02 30:32

Oh, oh, oh, you talking about that.

SPEAKER_05 30:33

She don't get the love and respect that she does not.

SPEAKER_02 30:35

No, yeah, that's trying to come back around now. That was honestly, that was extremely fucked up. And it really just goes to show just like how black women suffer, like how much we suffer, especially like black women in entertainment, you know, because nobody was on Justin Timberlake for, you know, for pulling it out. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Like nobody was on him. He didn't catch any flag for that. It was Janet was literally the victim in that situation. And for years, she was dragged by the media and all of these things. And it like literally overshadowed her, you know, her superstar for a little bit. Like, I mean, she eventually started doing Tyler Perry movies. I'm which I'm not I'm not saying they're bad movies. You know, why did I get married? One and two are good movies. Classics. But would she have moved into doing Tyler Perry movies when she did if at the if like in that five or six year span she hadn't received so much flack from the media for something that she did not do to herself, that she did not cause? That shit was crazy. Janet Jackson's is literally the blueprint, and like Britney Spears is Janet Jackson's direct daughter. Like we'll like I feel like like Michael Jackson is so big, obviously, that people don't even talk about who Janet Jackson raised in the industry. Like everybody talks about who Michael Jackson raised, which is it's very clear. But Janet has Brittany Spears, she has Beyonce, Sierra, Sierra, like Tinache. Tina, oh my god, Tinache.

SPEAKER_05 32:14

Shout out to Nasty, one of my favorite songs.

SPEAKER_02 32:17

That's why that's my shit. I love some Tinache and her wet seal music. Like the fun story? Yeah, like the clothing story. It's like her music literally feels like it feels like you're walking into a wet seal in like 2012. It's like, ah, this this feels like high school. Like, you know.

SPEAKER_05 32:32

Yo, it's funny you say that. I got a playlist called HM music. I might post it on a story. You should. It's a classic. It's a classic.

SPEAKER_02 32:39

You know, you've inspired me. I'll make a playlist that's called West Seal Music. And like most of it will literally be Tanasha's discography. Sometimes you just gotta make playlists. Yeah, I agree. I agree. I agree. And I'm a, yeah, like, but honestly, yeah, big shout out to Janet Jackson. I think, I mean, I don't think it's been, I don't think it's been explicitly said why she didn't want to have involvement in the movie, but I think part of it is that like her relationship with Michael was so sacred that I don't think she wanted to capitalize off of her brother. She was like, Y'all niggas not me. She's like, this shit not a banger for real. Like, right. And she and she probably was like, she probably was like, man, this shit is just a fucking highlight, real.

SPEAKER_04 33:15

Like, Randy, I don't think I'm gonna do it.

SPEAKER_02 33:18

Like, I don't think I'm gonna do it. Jermaine, I don't think so. Jermaine, I don't I don't think I'm gonna do it.

SPEAKER_05 33:22

Jermaine would have had them niggas at the door. He would have had them 3T niggas that they do. It's also interesting to me, and we I don't want to spend all the the episode on the Michael Jackson shit, but they're fucking Michael Jackson.

SPEAKER_02 33:32

It's so hard like to stop talking about it. Yeah, I know.

SPEAKER_05 33:34

But it's interesting, like, it's all them kids, and then I guess now grandkids, and none of them really popped off in the entertainment in the same kind of way. Like, I know that 3T tried, but they kind of was and then Rockwell, I think he was No, Rockwell was Quincy Jones.

SPEAKER_02 33:49

He was I mean, like, think about how hard it is when like you have the Jackson 5, Michael Jackson, and Janet Jackson. And the Jacksons themselves. Oh, yeah, and the Jackson 5. It's already four of them. Yeah, you know, like it's it's literally like all these iterations. You know, like Latoya had her own career. Like, there's all of these iterations of like fame in your family. Like, it's hard. Like, I wouldn't really want that. I really wouldn't want it for myself. Like, I mean, just think about like Michael Jordan don't have no, yeah, and like they shouldn't have, right? Like they probably shouldn't have.

SPEAKER_05 34:22

Yeah. Shout out to the Jacksons, man. Yeah, I'll be tuned in for Michael, Michael too.

SPEAKER_02 34:29

I I will. You know, very it's like good movie at face value, like you said. Like, you know, like I think only people like us really think into, like, think about media more critically, only give a fuck about what we're saying, you know? But face value, solid, solid movie.

SPEAKER_05 34:43

Also, I'm saying this on on the episode so it could be forever immortalized. One of my biggest reasons that I want to get rich is so that I can make a good Tupac biopic. I don't need to start as Tupac. I really don't want to. I don't want that to be misconstrued. I don't want to be Tupac. I just want to make a good, a good Tupac movie.

SPEAKER_02 34:59

Okay, okay. I fuck with that. And we should start start it at BSA.

SPEAKER_05 35:03

Yes. We got your favorite person be a side character. Jada Pinkett. Jake Jada. I know you're going from Jada Pinkett Smith.

SPEAKER_02 35:11

Are you being sarcastic right now?

SPEAKER_05 35:13

Nah, no, that's your girl.

SPEAKER_02 35:15

What are you talking about, Jordan? I did not know that Jada Pinkett Smith was my girl. I don't know. I fuck with her. You know, funny story. My mother went to middle school with her. A real Baltimore legend right there. Your mother or Jada Pinkett? My mother went to, well, both, actually. There you go. That was the answer. Yeah, yeah, both. Both, both, both. Yeah. Shout out to Falstaff Middle School.

SPEAKER_05 35:35

My mother went to Fallstaff. No, it was elementary, though, I think.

SPEAKER_02 35:38

It might have been an element. No.

SPEAKER_05 35:40

Yeah, you know they swear schools up and shit.

SPEAKER_02 35:42

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Who knows?

SPEAKER_05 35:44

We'll we'll have to do some reconnaissance into that.

SPEAKER_02 35:47

Like we said, everything we say on this podcast might not be true. So yeah. Yeah, some shit might be wrong or just a lie.

SPEAKER_05 35:53

Are you excited for the Migos reunion? Well, I guess it's me. Migo?

SPEAKER_02 35:59

No. I don't think there's anything to be excited about regarding that since Takeoff is dead.

SPEAKER_05 36:04

You don't enjoy the musical stylings of Offset and Quavius?

SPEAKER_02 36:07

It's like, why do we like clearly you think it's going broke? I was about to say recession indicator. Like, Offset needs gambling money. And I mean, like, okay, they've had their like their little album together. Or was it two of them, like Offset and Quavo? No, it wasn't. Or was it three?

SPEAKER_04 36:26

It was Quavo and Takeoff.

SPEAKER_02 36:29

No, no, no, no. I swear that Offset and Quavo had one too. Am I making this shit up?

SPEAKER_05 36:34

I think you are.

SPEAKER_02 36:35

Okay, well, my bad.

SPEAKER_05 36:36

Only only built for Infinity Links. It was uh Okay. That's when they stopped fucking with Offset. We're gonna drop our duo shit. And then Offset. And then they all had the like individual ones. And then Take Offs was the only one that was like wasn't asked for real.

SPEAKER_02 36:49

Take yeah, Takeoffs was good. I liked, I mean, Takeoff was the best rabbit out of the group. I mean, Quay was.

SPEAKER_05 36:54

I don't think it was offset. I think it was offset.

SPEAKER_02 36:59

I was about to say for me, offset was the one I liked the least. I think I just like have never been much of a fan of him. I think you don't like him as a person. I don't think it was bad though. Like, I think like I think his solo projects have been decent, but I don't it it doesn't it doesn't move me. I say this, I say this all to say, I don't care to see Quavo and Offset together. Especially since especially since they didn't protect fucking takeoff. I don't want to see that shit.

SPEAKER_05 37:29

Well offset wasn't there.

SPEAKER_02 37:30

I don't want to see it. I I don't I don't wanna see it. I don't wanna see it. Like takeoff yet again being left off.

SPEAKER_05 37:39

Oh bad and bougie too? Yeah. I mean, but you know, they got AI and shit now.

SPEAKER_02 37:42

Do it look like I got left off bad and bougie?

SPEAKER_05 37:44

Yes. That was the most confusing shit to do.

SPEAKER_02 37:49

I know, it's like I guess he was saying, like, I'm still getting paid from it. Like, but cool, nigga. Is there an actual story for why Takeoff was not on bad and bougie?

SPEAKER_05 37:59

I don't know. If y'all know the lore between behind why take off was not on bad and bougie.

SPEAKER_02 38:03

Do you want to make something up right now? We should start a rumor.

SPEAKER_05 38:05

Lil' Uzi was too powerful. And niggas, it was just nothing they could do.

SPEAKER_02 38:10

I would say, okay, so my rumor that I'ma come up with for why Takeoff was not on bad and bougie is because like he probably maybe he was like hungover that day and he just like missed the studio session. And like it was like and it was only one session. So they was like, fuck it. And act actually, actually, his verse was actually supposed to be Uzi's verse. Uzi was available. Like Uzi was available, he was in the area. So they just told him to like hop on.

SPEAKER_05 38:43

Okay. Take off is busy.

SPEAKER_02 38:45

That's my he wasn't busy, he was hungover. And he just ain't, and they was like, damn, like we only like we literally only have this session. Like, we only had this session, but shit, like Uzi is right here recording. Like, come on, like, just just take this, take this, take this slot, these 16 bars.

SPEAKER_05 39:01

Oh, if they knew, if they knew the magic that would have been a good one. If they knew, like Uzi coming in, I think Uzi had the best verse. He did. No, like that energy. He was it was hella sad.

SPEAKER_02 39:12

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, like, like you can't, you can't, you can't say that, you can't say that part of the song sitting still. Huh? Huh?

SPEAKER_05 39:24

Hold on, my flow. Oh, oh my gosh.

SPEAKER_02 39:26

Like, that shit was so hard. Like, Uzi definitely made that song what it was. Now, if Takeoff was on it, it's like, yes, it would have been a Migo song, but it would not have popped like it did.

SPEAKER_05 39:36

Unless you had the four first.

SPEAKER_02 39:39

Yes, but then it just would have been long as fuck.

SPEAKER_05 39:41

But that's all they shit was on culture. When they had features, they just would be they just would pick one of them niggas, like, all right. It was never Quavo. They would always just think one of our niggas would be like, all right, now you gonna we're gonna have to feature here, and then we're gonna attack another Migos verse onto it.

SPEAKER_02 39:54

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 39:54

Like on dance, nigga take a call me girl niggas.

SPEAKER_02 39:58

Damn, I really, I really do, I really do miss Migos like as a group, like as a concept. They really ran our college years. Yeah, they just fell in love and got washed. It was, yeah, but I mean like what they did was really monumental. Like, they introduced new flows to the industry. Like, we didn't have a boy band at the time. Did we have a rap boy band at the time?

SPEAKER_05 40:22

I gotta think about that one. Is Bobby Smurden and GS9 boys a boy band?

unknown 40:27

No.

SPEAKER_05 40:28

Bobby Smurden is Aside Mob a boy band?

SPEAKER_02 40:30

I feel like A Side Mob, like the A Side Mob is a collective. It's not giving, it's not really like a boy band.

SPEAKER_05 40:36

I feel like on Cozy Takes 2, they was kind of boy bandish, though. On Cozy Takes the series, not Cozy Takes 2.

SPEAKER_02 40:42

Okay, like, okay, like also I feel like uh Future collective.

SPEAKER_05 40:45

Oh yeah, no, they're not a band.

SPEAKER_02 40:47

Not a boy band. I mean, Ray Schremmer, technically a boy band. But there was only two in there. Yeah, yeah. How many people? Three is the threshold. Yeah, it has to be, yeah, yeah. It has to be at least three people. They were a dynamic duo. Yeah, so like Migos really was like a boy band. They really came through with some different shit, different flows, crazy flows, crazy, ridiculous ad-libs.

SPEAKER_03 41:08

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 41:09

That nobody ever said before. Like, like all three of them. Mama. Mama. You know, even though offset's my least favorite Migos, like, or Migo, my least favorite Migos. Even though Offset's my least favorite Migo, like, yeah, he's just as legendary, like, as the other two. I didn't think he's a big Michael Jackson fan. He is one of the biggest Michael Jackson fans. I think that nigga, he probably auditioned for Michael. He's gonna be in the second one. They gonna have him as a backup dancer.

SPEAKER_05 41:35

I think they probably had some, you know, during that Jackson era, they probably had some soul train footage that didn't make it past the counter floor. All set probably in there.

SPEAKER_02 41:42

Offset is 100% probably in there. Like, that's actually right up his alley.

SPEAKER_05 41:48

Shout out to Amigos, man. Okay, you're not excited for the reunion. That's cool.

SPEAKER_02 41:51

Nah.

SPEAKER_05 41:51

Are you excited for Jafar Jackson to go on tour as Michael Jackson with his uncles and perform Jackson 5 hits?

SPEAKER_02 41:57

Oh my god. So he can live out Joe Jackson's dream.

SPEAKER_05 42:01

It'd be Joe Jackson, man. I don't. You wasn't the perfect f, but I don't think you was as bad as they say you were. You don't?

SPEAKER_02 42:09

No. I think Joe Jackson is probably as bad as niggas say they were. I will not give him a break. But I will say this. It's a different time. Would they have like would they have been as perfect and things? No, of course not, right? You know, that that level of perfection definitely comes from some sort of abuse. It comes from fear. Like it absolutely comes from fear of failure and like fear of getting home. Damn, like we just did this show and everybody get our asses whooped because Tito fucked. Tito did something wrong. Rest in peace, Tito Jackson. I feel like when Tito Jackson died, like it didn't really get a lot of traction. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 42:51

I was hurt.

SPEAKER_02 42:53

It was also so random when he died, too. I was like, oh, Tito Jackson died.

SPEAKER_05 42:56

Yeah, like damn, not Tito.

SPEAKER_02 42:58

Yeah, I was like, that was that was the last Jackson I thought was going to be on his way out, honestly. Not that I have them listed or anything. I just wasn't expecting Tito Jackson to be to be like what the second Jackson to die.

SPEAKER_05 43:13

I'm pretty sure you gambled on it, actually. Pretty sure you made you took buttons.

SPEAKER_02 43:19

I actually I yeah, I actually do have the Jackson on a on a pair of dice. And I rolled at nah nah nah. Rest in peace, Tito Jackson. Rest in peace, not rest in peace, Joe Jackson. That nigga is rotting in hell. Oh man. But you know what? He probably down there, like, yeah, I did that shit. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, that motherfucker like Satan hit harder, bitch. Like literally. That's harder. Like, literally, bruh.

SPEAKER_05 43:45

Let's talk about you said something about recession indicator. You said Amigos getting together was a recession indicator. Absolutely. McDonald's is and I saw this on today. I'm gonna say my source. I saw this on today.com or today, whatever the fuck, the website.

SPEAKER_02 43:57

The today show.

SPEAKER_05 43:57

Yeah, yeah. They say that McDonald's is phasing. out all their fountain drink and shit.

SPEAKER_02 44:02

They are. And one of the reasons.

SPEAKER_05 44:03

Have you seen this first time?

SPEAKER_02 44:05

Like, have I seen that story?

SPEAKER_05 44:06

No. Like have you seen Oh yeah?

SPEAKER_02 44:08

Like you literally go into some McDonald's. I hate what McDonald's has become because like it I really know for real like like in high school McDonald's used to be a third space. You know, like niggas would finish school for the day and then we would go chill out and high and you know chill out in McDonald's for hours. Granted back then we were we were a different generation of children that I think acted a little more behaved than these kids now. So McDonald's, you know, they do not want they do not want their restaurants to be a third space anymore. They also don't want it to be a refuge for homeless people and for people who are not spending money. So they literally just want it to be this like basically AI generated drive through robot you know like basically just like yeah you just pull up put your order in a little kiosk and then you leave. You know I I wouldn't be surprised if they take out the fucking seats in McDonald's because like I really I really think like it's not even about whether people were you know taking more refills than what they should have. It really is about they do not want people hanging out in McDonald's anymore. Which is crazy because it's like yes there are behavioral issues like there are things to worry about. Me, I don't I I don't mind a homeless person sitting in a McDonald's I mean I like sometimes you know like homeless people need shelter too like but I'll say this like we are destroying every single third space that we have ever had these teenagers have nowhere to go they literally have nowhere to go and and I was like okay so I'm 29 years old so a couple this nigga's older than me so a couple months ago I went into a McDonald's right I went into McDonald's to place my order and it was like after school times it was kids you know in there chilling you know acting like teenagers being annoying take getting their orders and stuff like that. And like yes I was annoyed as an adult I was annoyed right but I also realized this is not a space for me. I don't have to use McDonald's as a hangout spot. I don't have to sit in a McDonald's to wait for my parents to pick me up anymore. I don't have to sit in a McDonald's to wait for my shift to start. So I'm like this isn't for me. Like yeah I'm annoyed but I'm just in and out this place isn't for me. Like they're doing the same shit I was doing you know 12, 15 years ago. So it's just like I don't know like I think that we've stopped catering to the community. And that's what's fucked up. But they want to they want to act like it's about I mean I haven't I didn't actually read the story so I don't really know what the my I'm I'm just assuming that they want to act like it's yeah they say it was money but you know it's yeah like it's money. It's like no they they really just don't want niggas in there. It costs 10 cents to get if that to get the description I'm like seriously like McDonald's has survived perfectly fine with people getting a little bit of extra diet coke or sprite.

SPEAKER_05 46:55

Man speaking of niggas in hell I know Ray Crock is he not turning his grave he probably lit like yeah keep them niggas out of there that's the that's the man that like stole McDonald's from them brothers. Oh my god yeah I watched that movie on Netflix the big Ray Croc he was like listen if y'all don't know the lore I'll break down the lore for y'all little history lesson with with old BD here right so McDonald's was started by the McDonald's brothers in California. The McDonald's brothers they revolutionized shit because they were able to like assembly line the process of fast food creation. They were able to institutionalize the wear this is how we do it point blank period so they had the speed they was like the first real big poppin' fast food restaurant. And the shit was good. Ray Crock was a motherfucking scammer. Not a scammer he just was somebody that was looking for a failed salesman. A failed salesman looking for his lick looking for his way to succeed in the world. So he came across the McDonald's brothers he's like oh y'all got this million dollar idea I'm gonna take it and I'm gonna expand it for y'all I'm gonna take it nationwide. So he kind of dealt with them he basically kind of dealt with them to cut them out. He said I'm gonna pay y'all royalties but it's gonna be a handshake agreement. Yep they didn't want to expand it they were like we want to keep our one McDonald's on point. He like alright but so he took the name took the bread them the McDonald's brothers never received a penny of royalties. Yeah she was really fucked up and Ray Crock got to die rich and lit.

SPEAKER_02 48:13

Like he really stole from them. But it's like McKepton shit name McDonald's yeah like and that's and that's the and that's the craziest thing about it like kept it named McDonald's and in the movie you know he's kind of like well damn like if they were good businessmen they would have yada yada yada but it's like you know they were they were really doing it for like the love of the game like they really they really enjoyed their business and I don't you know and they weren't like yeah like they weren't really like real capitalists like that you know like trying to just like like trying to just like you know have a million a million dollar company. I think they saw somebody that they felt could help them and they got robbed. Like it was also the 50s or you know whatever. So it's like things like this didn't really exist. So like there was no there was no precedent for them to be like hey maybe we should make sure we have a solid contract like this maybe this motherfucker's about to try to scam us yeah like they didn't know that like they saw this man walk in and say their burger was good and they're like sure like all right I'm fuck with you.

SPEAKER_05 49:11

Yeah I don't fuck with you oh man McDonald's you y'all gotta step it up but it's like to your point it's the elimination of third spaces I feel like I just had this conversation ad nauseum we can't be mad at teenagers for acting out for cutting up when they don't got nowhere to go they don't got nothing to do. If we are fucking grown ass adults complaining about how much everything costs, how much it costs to get places to do shit you can't be mad at motherfuckers who don't got jobs, don't got nothing but angst, anxiety, no wisdom because they haven't lived long enough to have the wisdom when they start doing dumbass shit like there is literally no and I think that's part of the like behavioral issues that we've seen over the years is like just this reduction of places where they can where they can go but then also just like just off the bat just villainizing teenagers you know all the time you know it's like of course of course they misbehave like teenagers have always misbehaved but it's like damn like you know you telling you telling kids they can't be at the mall after seven o'clock like what it what what what are they going to do?

SPEAKER_02 50:13

You're shutting down and I can't go to the movies. Yeah you they can go to the movies like we used to they're shutting down fucking skating rinks the niggas don't want them to be in bowling alleys like you know they can't sit inside fast food places so what so what did they end up doing? They end up doing dumb shit or they end up trying to get into parties that they don't belong to be at and then they don't know how to act in there and they start fighting and stuff. Like it's just really fucked up I'm glad we were teenagers when we were teenagers because we definitely had like that teenage freedom we could walk around the mall we could walk to the we could walk around the avenue go to the movies we could you know skating rinks was popping bowling alleys was popping like it was things to do. We could literally go to the harbor in as a group of teenagers and not not fear for our lives yeah and not fear for our lives and not feel like the police is going to try to break us up and tell us we need to go home or ask for ask for our IDs to see if we was 18 just for walking around. Yeah everything's just hyper criminalized hyper fucking prison industrial all that yeah I'm like damn like these are literally kids and like kids all kids need ways to develop and grow like you can't they don't that that's not possible if there's no avenues for them to do that.

SPEAKER_05 51:23

I agree. Shit really fucked up you want to talk about the Palm Beach County airport being renamed?

SPEAKER_02 51:29

You know that's actually news to me. I ain't gonna lie really okay so you don't know please enlighten me.

SPEAKER_05 51:35

The Palm Beach County International Airport is being renamed the Trump International Airport. Jesus Christ so you know big big Don he said and it's funny because I was talking to my marketing professor yesterday it was our last class and I was like yeah I asked him about this exact story because I saw it last night and I was like what do you think about that? Because I was like he's really good as a marketer he's like no he's actually not good as a marketer. He's like he's he's good at branding shit. He's good at putting his name on things but when it comes to actually marketing and putting a product onto the world he doesn't really do anything. I'm like damn that's a real good point.

SPEAKER_02 52:05

But I would I would love to hear your thoughts are you excited to be flying into to Trump international I literally cannot Donald Trump and him throwing his name on everything it's like he he literally like he is treating this presidency like obviously we say the people around him treat it like a make-a-wish you know treat him like a make a wish kid but he is treating this pre presidency like a fucking legacy product of his like this nigga wants his face and name on everything. Passports and shit passports like buildings you know it's it's buildings in DC with his face on the front of it with that scary ass fucking mug shot he got as his as his head shot it is quite the glare that he is a glare like he wants to be he wants to be Kim Jong un so bad like he wants to be a dictator so bad. I mean I I hope I hope that doesn't happen I'm sure it will happen though. Oh definitely happening yeah like I'm I'm like can you imagine being like oh where you fly I'm flying out of Trump international yeah I'm flying from Trump to Reagan I cannot oh right like literally flying from Trump to Reagan as if it's not as as if it's not bad enough that we have Reagan out here like but you know what Reagan got his just due because that's the worst fucking airport in the area that airport sucks. It's so small. It's so small you walk into Reagan you go through security you already on the fucking plane there's you you go through security take five steps and you already you already boarding it's it's so small it's nothing to eat I tried to get some fucking Dunkin' Donuts and you know what I have I I have a chip on my shoulder about Reagan the last time I was in Reagan I tried to get some Dunkin'uts I said do y'all have hash browns because I really just wanted some hash browns they say no this is a Dunkin Donuts express what airport Dunkin' donuts is already small enough why how do you have an express version of Dunkin' Donuts this is really sitting on your heart yeah for the past like two years this was this was September 2024 that shit blew me I was like what then there's no there's nothing to drink except you know like cranberry juice and stuff like that sucked as if the airport isn't bad enough like I hate Reagan I I tried my best to not fly out of Reagan honestly but yeah the concept of somebody being like I'm flying from Trump to Reagan oh my God I literally can't nasty work it's nasty work this shit just gets crazy itinerary yeah that's a crazy itinerary hey stay tuned we're we're gonna be here covering what will Trump brand next woo I mean clearly the the options are endless yeah nothing is safe nothing is safe that man I wouldn't be surprised if he wanted to change the the country literally to the United States of Trump I would not be surprised or or the White House to the Trump House don't I'm just saying the option like clearly and like in in nobody nobody in the government and nobody in Congress has enough balls to try to really stand up for to stop Joseph yeah like the only people that tried that that stop him are like you know these federal judges and stuff like that but everybody in Congress and everybody in the government everybody in his in his cabinet they just let him do whatever he wants and if he is gonna if he decided to name something else outlandishly after himself they would just let it happen I think Trump Studios is next Trump Studios to from Hollywood Studios or Paramount Studios and he's just gonna either buy one or open up his own oh okay okay I honestly I can you gotta keep that propaganda ball you gotta keep the ball rolling and it's gonna be all AI that's a second I was about to say it's gonna be all AI it's gonna be AI coming out of Zuckerberg Kevin O'Leary and Elon Musk's data centers to create content for Trump studios that shit is so crazy. Kevin O'Leary O'Leary is Irish O'Leary is Irish and he's trying to build that data center like Vic Kev was it in Utah I think really fucked up Vic Kev Chill chill out my St. Patrick Day brother please like go back to the shark tank and leave these people alone leave these people alone these fucking I'm like like you have people in Utah complaining about data centers aren't most of them conservative like that's how you know that's how you know that like these issues are are now crossing party lines and we and like Republicans are realizing that hey I can actually care about something wow I mean like what what a concept for a Republican to actually like really care about the impact of something all it took was data centers.

SPEAKER_05 56:48

Also real quick note about Utah shout out to Karen Hunter if y'all know Karen Hunter I listen to her show a lot on Sirius XM. But she always brings up the point around black people exercising their voting power. I mean she brought up Utah as an example of like these people decided okay we can all move to this place. Excuse me we'll be able to exercise political power we'll be able to exercise power to create the kind of society or the thing that we want to see. So just using them as an example of black people to be like what if we all decided or not even all of us what if a good group of us decided hey we're gonna move to I don't know fucking Nebraska we'll just throw that out there. And we do it in enough way where we can actually have our population be there, have our population be taken care of at people that look like us in position. The same way the Mormons did it out in Utah and then had the voting power and the elected officials and all that shit. So interesting interesting thoughts I might think about not a like a black wall street. Same shit yeah yeah same shit so I don't even know what the fuck we were talking about.

SPEAKER_02 57:47

We were talking about Trump National Airport that's what this topic was yeah yeah man I'm not what a fucking joke I don't even be out Palm Beach but I think that's where Mar Lago at that's why it's like oh yeah yeah even that shit is like y'all niggas made Jimmy Carter sell his trees man y'all made that match like literally his little peanut farm and stuff like that like but but but here come Trump he can do whatever the fuck he wants was Jimmy Carter the last like outside of Obama of course was he the last decent well damn might have been the only they might be the only too like stand up I actually think so stand up I mean I'm not even familiar with like a Jimmy Carter scandal like or or anything that he's done you know to like like on like a human level that's been questionable. I actually don't even know he was just a cool guy. Yeah I think he was just like a like a decent man actually I'm a decent man from a city of demons all right snuck it in there on me.

SPEAKER_05 58:44

Also Jimmy Jimmy tends to be a a cool nigga name I ain't met a lot of Jimmy's that wasn't like you know what you cool.

SPEAKER_02 58:51

Shout out to Jimmy used to work at Tug with me bro I hope you're doing well I think one of my favorite things about Jimmy Carter it has nothing to do with his presidency or anything like that. Because people actually say he has a he had a failed presidency but is it that uh Lil Wayne snap with him on that song not even that it's that that man outlived hospice he was he was in hospice for like two years like I have never seen somebody survive hospice like that like he really he really like stayed up for a long time I don't know how he did it. I ain't gonna lie he was holding on to my family and friends I don't let it gain that much I don't let it gain nigga said some days he just didn't wake up he just was sleep like because he he he had one foot out the door like bro I don't let it gain that much he was like uh I'm still here I'm still here like he voted and everything like that man I think was like the longest surviving hospice patient yeah they probably was thinking like all right jimmy like okay what you what you gonna do Jimmy get his bed up now yeah like typically people not here longer than six months like it's been a year and a half to Jimmy Carter what are you doing Jimmy I just thought about that picture of Jimmy Carter his wife and and Joe Biden looks big and it looks like it's edited but it's not edited. Do you know what picture I'm about to the perspective was crazy.

SPEAKER_05 1:00:17

Alright we're gonna do hold your head hold your head number one for everybody because these motherfucking gas prices are out of control. My feelings are hurt I feel personally offended personally victimized every time I go to the pump I feel like somebody just just is robbing me blind. Smacking you prayers for the homie when I pulled up to the gas station yesterday they shit was on 100 plus I feel for you I can only imagine what what kind of bins or tanks shout out to Tuan Tuan was like that motherfucking whipping Megatron. Yeah I want to know like what type of vehicle was that I don't I gotta know I gotta know I gotta know so yeah hold your head everybody that's paying for gas right now because we're bruh I fucking paid 479 on Sunday that's so hurtful four dollars and seventy nine cents that's actually offensive. Yeah two weeks ago I paid $535 also hold your head to Adrian Broner Adrian the problem broner I think that was his nickname Adrian Broner and you giving us me and my friends in particular you're giving us a lot of viral content over the years a lot of things that we found hilarious from you saying that you're the can man anybody can get it is he the one that said I beat a Mexican is that him that's the other part of the other quote I was trying to leave that out I'm sorry I'm sorry it's so I was just I was just making the miles I was just yeah I was just making sure I knew like okay yeah so shout out hold your head Adrian Burtonash out to you you've been uh you've been on a rampage of of terrorizing terrorizing women and people over gambles and it just sucks to see you know you could have been a legend you you were a former boxing champion used to be with Floyd but I'm about to mute his name on Twitter I'm tired of saying that nigga content and his big belly it's so nasty it's nasty scary looking and he got like 10 kids it's just it's just all bad so Adrian Bronan hold your head you got anybody you wanna you want to hold your head keep your head up you did some you did some fuck shit or you went outside I honestly just like you know keep your head up Meg the stallion pray for my girl I'm sure a lot of your listeners might not agree but what does that mean?

SPEAKER_02 1:02:20

I don't know because a lot of a lot of men like are anti-Meg Distallion I have a very diverse listenership I said a lot I didn't say everybody I I didn't say a lot of I didn't say all your listeners I said a lot of your listeners yeah nah my listeners just we're not we not on we're not on fuck shit over here at the big I I'm just saying like you know a lot of the a lot of the negative views from Meg Destallion like literally come from men.

SPEAKER_05 1:02:42

Hey listeners I apologize for her putting y'all in that box like that sorry but you know a hit dog on holiday and if you ain't a hit dog then don't worry about it and I I said on I think it was last episode two episodes ago I was like Meg just go get you a square go get you an accounting nigga or somebody that don't like the spotlight I really think she needs just like a regular man. More Russell Wilson type of like yeah girl I don't give a fuck about none of that cool shit niggas be young I don't like when people drag Russell Wilson like that.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:07

He seems like a nice guy's like a nice guy and he's cute he's a nice guy and and he takes care of his wife is he loves his wife his family there's nothing wrong with it but but but niggas think he's a clown like or that he's lame is it because he's a lame lady man love your wife Megan needs a lame but why does that make him a like why why is Russell a lame though? Because of his aura and his swagger it's lame yeah you ain't never seen a picture nigga with that Hawaiian shirt and a fat ass jeans okay and you told niggas that they couldn't play future in the locker room okay I didn't I didn't know that story I ain't gonna lie I mean I know I know I I know the lore of like him being like disliked like like on the team I feel like like people think he's a lame like as a teammate.

SPEAKER_05 1:03:53

And he was a dickhead.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:54

But like as an individual is he a lame like as an individual not to his wife and children.

SPEAKER_05 1:03:59

Well especially not to his wife and children it don't matter what I think I'm just a podcaster.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:04

Meg definitely needs somebody who's not famous though yeah Meg needs somebody who's not famous like girl like a Costco is like this like yeah like literally somebody who like like Dolly Parton's husband was always just some random man like that's who Meg needs is it multiple random man husbands or like no just one. Can you say it was always just some random man no no no what I'm saying is like yeah like her husband he died but like he was just a random Dolly Parton hold your head I'm sorry oh yeah it happened like a a couple months ago but I'm sure she's still grieving yeah hold your head Dolly damn Dolly yeah damn Dolly she did a lot for us yeah shout out to Dolly Parton all right we're gonna get in these voicemails real quick I'm gonna pause the show giving y'all a little bit of inside baseball here I'm gonna pause the show so we can give it something behind the scenes and insert them and then Kirsten's gonna react to them with me.

SPEAKER_05 1:04:57

Okay fine Eo B D it's it's your boy man it's Toddy I just want to let you know you know I appreciate you having me as the first guest on your platform for real you know it was a great time when we recorded I forgot to tell you one thing nigga told me to set you up wanted me to come to watch you up because you were out of town nigga like big early body shit from Diddy so I can't go back you up the musical styles of Taji Burris ladies ladies and gentlemen thanks for letting me know after the fact yo me and him laugh about that song a lot we laugh about that family matters and Jack Harlow's verse on on the shit with him and Drake when he was like my dad my granddad would have a heart attack if I pulled a hundred grand out so I'm not gonna pull a hundred grand out I literally hate Jack Harlow oh man not Jack not Jack Harlow but yeah you got thoughts on niggas coming through to set me up come through and wet me up hey I I think you need to watch it back when you leave the studio.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:58

Watch it back What uh what'd the game say?

SPEAKER_05 1:06:02

Red rose, red rolling.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:03

Red rose, white ceiling. Go go get in that.

SPEAKER_05 1:06:05

You know why that's a red cell. Ray Honda. That's a Nipsey line. That's why that shit's so funny. See, he stole it? He ain't paying homage.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:13

Oh. The game is so corny, bruh. Like, like, why are you paying homage with somebody else's line, like every single chance that you get it?

SPEAKER_05 1:06:23

Because you don't know the lore. That's what's mine. You know, game was was riding through the hood. Oh, God. He seen Nip. Nip walked up to him. Game was dolo. Nip walked to him, gave him the CD, saw the burner on the seat. He's like, that's a real nigga here. And then you know, years later, his son.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:40

Chin up dad.

SPEAKER_05 1:06:40

Yeah, his son went to celebrate. He asked his son what you want to do for your birthday. He said, I just want to drive around in the Lambo.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:47

I just want to drive around. Chin up dad, the marathon can say years.

SPEAKER_05 1:06:51

Amen. Wiser words have not been said. We're gonna move on to the next V the next voicemail. Books, I hope you're listening. Because I think that this one will be of particular interest to you, brother.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:02

Brother The Big Dreams BD, what's going on, man? It's your boy Tex. And listen, from one Jordan to another, I didn't want to have to do this, but I feel a great responsibility too now. You know, I've been sitting back listening, trying to allow things to happen naturally. And it's just too many hate-filled takes being thrown out there about Arby's right now, man. And it's not sitting right on my spirit. And I'm not gonna I'm not gonna name, drop, or point fingers on certain individuals. They know who they are. You know, people that were supposed to be part of the brothership, supposed to be part of our inner circle. Listen, man, these Arby's ads is coming out at a faster clip, these new menu items are being added. You know, Arby's is evolving, they on the up and up, they pushing out that good stuff, man. Let's please be respectful about good product when we see it. But I want to shift gears real quick, host BD. You know, one quick question for you. If you was Paul Levesque and you had to answer the TKO group, what is the one big thing that you would change about the WWE product right now? Let's talk about it.

unknown 1:08:04

Right.

SPEAKER_05 1:08:04

Well, in front of the jump, you got any thoughts on the Arby's defense? Are you pro Arby's, anti-Rby's?

SPEAKER_02 1:08:10

I am pro-RB's. I think Arby's is delicious. You know, it's not, it's not a place that you go to often. Like, I haven't been to Arby's in like maybe five years. Okay. But my heart, they but they definitely know my heart. I mean, it also don't be a lot of Arby's, but Arby's has some of the best fries. Arby's is good. I feel like people slander Arby's because it's like lame as shit to go to Arby's, which it is. It's not like a cool fast food place. What the fuck is a cool fast food place? You know, like McDonald's has a pretty like cool reputation, I feel like. We just talked about Arby's place. Okay, I'm talking about like at like as a brand. Like Arby's brand feels like is for like old people. You know, it's like roast beef, but they have other stuff. What's it like? Roast beef. Arby's like Arby's does not cater itself to like a younger population. I feel like, you know, it feels like old people, people who live in like West Virginia or something.

SPEAKER_05 1:09:03

Anyways, yeah, I'm I'm pro Arby's. Hey man, I'm also pro-Rby's. As far as the the question about Paul Levet, what would I do in uh what would WWE change when I make today? So I feel like it's not the popular answer, but I've felt this way for a long time. I think that the best thing for WWE to do would be to start a just like a straight women's division where it's only like women wrestling. Maybe do that once a week, an hour. But I feel though, and again, it's not gonna be the popular opinion because people are gonna say, well, book this person or do this thing. But in my opinion, I think we've seen the growth of the WNBA, we've seen the growth of women's sports, and we also seen female athletes dominate the day-day from Bianca Belair taking back the Sasha Banks, Mercedes, Monet, and Charlotte Flair, Becky Lynch to all the people coming up now, Rhea Ripley, people in in the independence. I think that that's a very easy, untapped market. Absolutely. And that's how you build fans, you feel me? So I think that having that time dedicated, a product dedicated to them would be the it might not yield the dividends they want it to yield initially, but if they can stay consistent with it over time and really build it up as some must say you never know who's gonna pop up on this show or how are we gonna carry it and use that as a way to get old old people involved with new people, involved with future people, celebrities and shit, all that. I think I think that would be my suggestion. You got any thoughts? Bring back Vince Mc9. I think that's what she was. Oh god, that's what you were telling me uh show.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:33

You know what, y'all, he's trolling. I'm absolutely horrified of Vince McMahon. But and I didn't know who that nigga was until I watched that WWE docusaries they had that will that was about him. And after I finished it, I literally had a nightmare about him. Like he is terrified. And I'm not, I'm not even joking. Like, like I deadass had a like a nightmare about Vince McMahon.

SPEAKER_05 1:10:53

But you're trying to give a steroid, y'all.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:55

Oh my god, he's so scary. But that did introduce me to WWE because I was just really curious about it from just like a like I really enjoy like the entertainment aspect that I learned about it. And then also with that other docuseries, they have on what is that? Untold. Yeah, untold, yeah. So that kind of got me into like watching it sometimes. And I do like the a lot, I like the soap opera aspect. You know, it's very theatrical, um, which is one thing I didn't know about it. But you know, I think I I definitely agree with that because to me, you know, like as a woman, I think that the the female wrestlers are like the most exciting, you know, like I like their outfits, like I like how Bianca Belair, like she makes all of her outfits and stuff like that. So there's definitely a market for it. Like you have the you have the the women who, you know, want to see them or feel empowered by them or want to be them. Then you have like the men who want to get with them and you know, like to see, you know, like to see women, you know, rah, whatever, you know. So like I feel like I feel like you can definitely tap into that. But it like, like you said, it really tracks of like where sports culture has gone in the past couple years. Like honestly, thanks thanks mainly to Angel Reese, really.

SPEAKER_05 1:12:05

I I think I mean Caitlin Clark also has something to do with it.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:08

Uh yeah, but Angel Reese. So really, really mainly thanks to Angel Reese and what like LSU did. Like, I think just like really like putting women's basketball like on the map, not that it didn't exist, but just like you know, making it so like it is as entertaining to people and as competitive to people as like men's basketball. So it would definitely track with like sports culture. I think that I think that's really an untet market, and they should do that. Hopefully, hopefully they credit you if they do that. Shit. Hopefully they give me a fucking job.

SPEAKER_05 1:12:40

Not for real.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:40

What would you do if you worked for the WWE? I don't want to. Be like a writer, yeah. That would be tough.

SPEAKER_05 1:12:44

I want to help come up with the storylines and shit like that.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:46

I would come up with some ridiculous storylines. Like nothing, nothing bad, like I saw that Vince McMahon did back in the 90s. Yeah, you know, some shit like that. Mingos was on WWE, it was one of the last times they were. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I seen that. That was cool. That was cool.

SPEAKER_05 1:13:01

It was random. It was very random.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:02

I saw like Travis Scott was on there.

SPEAKER_05 1:13:04

Oh, yeah, we don't we don't talk about that.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:06

Oh, was it bad?

SPEAKER_05 1:13:07

It was awful. Oh shout out to my homie Kadima. Kadema, if you listen. She uh when he was talking, I think a book for a class, she was like, Yeah, she joined as a podcast. He talks about wrestling a lot. I don't really know what he'd be talking about. So somehow it circled back. This time it was text, though. It wasn't me. Text introduced the topic. But yeah, as always, y'all can leave y'all's voicemails. The link is directly in the bio of the episode. I made this shit super easy. Shout out to my cousin Celeste. She said I had typo in it, so I'ma have that fixed. Oh, yeah. Thank you, Celeste.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:35

We don't like typos.

SPEAKER_05 1:13:36

Yeah, you know, the game is the game. Last but not least, I want to throw some shout-outs to the homies as we are so accustomed to do here at the Big Dream Show. First and foremost, I want to shout out my homie Wolf. He's a personal trainer. I actually can vouch for his services. He had me. He had me feeling real brolic and feeling real good. Work out with Wolf. If y'all are trying to get right for the summertime, or fuck trying to get right for the summertime. You just trying to get right, period, trying to have better gym habits, a better gym routine. Holler at Wolf. Wolf will get you right at work out with Wolf. I also want to shout out to the homies' qualities for all your apparel needs. My brother Lee. Hopefully he'll be on the show uh sooner than later. But my brother Lee, he does whatever you need as far as clothing, as far as screen printing, as far as printing, period. He he can make that shit happen. I've seen Lee make sunglasses, I've seen him make bugs, I've seen him make hoodies. Actually, a lot of my over the past couple years, a lot of the like one-on-one big dreams merchandise I had was created by Lee. So shout out to the homie at qualities. It's like quality, but the last one is T, like a t-shirt. Real clever, real, real marketing, marketing genius. And shout out to my brother Doe. My brother Doe in the Baltimore Algebra Project. They're helping folks, students with their algebra, with their math literacy.

SPEAKER_02 1:14:46

So if you got any students that I I would have needed that in high school, in middle school. Shit.

SPEAKER_05 1:14:50

So if you got anybody that's like Kursley and they need support when it when it comes to anything more difficult than one plus one equals two, please highlight the Baltimore Algebra Project. Yeah, just a great episode in the books. You got any parting words or you want to tell the people where they can find you, what you got coming up, all that uh spooky do shit.

SPEAKER_02 1:15:14

Yeah, so first, thank you, Jordan, B D J for having me.

SPEAKER_05 1:15:17

Gang gang, baby.

SPEAKER_02 1:15:18

Um, you know, appreciate being here and and and talking about all of these fun topics. I hope the people enjoyed it. Yeah, you can definitely catch me on Instagram, Cursing Alexandra, K-I-R-S-T-Y-N-N-A-L-E-X-A-N-D-R-A. And yeah, I'm launching my own shit. So yeah, so Jordan is is a part of like the inaugural launch, I guess you could say. I don't, I don't wanna, I don't wanna spoil too much of it, but you know, please just like follow me on Instagram and then from there you can see like my other content, um, you know, my content page and like the additional page that I'm gonna be launching. So yeah, really excited. I'm really interested in culture, writing. I honestly like the same, like the same shit that Jordan is interested in. I I do the same type of stuff. So yeah, just happy to be here.

SPEAKER_05 1:16:11

All right, make sure y'all like, y'all rate, y'all subscribe, y'all review. If you enjoy the show, give it five stars. And yeah, we out this yeah. Five stars only. Five stars only. We out this mission.

SPEAKER_04 1:16:23

Oh, here it goes.