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This week on He Said G Said, G and Blake are getting cosmic! Astrologer and psychic Jessica Lanyadoo joins the podcast to talk all things astrology, from eclipse season and free will to love and compatibility.

Jessica breaks down what the stars have in store for August, reveals what our birth charts can tell us about our relationships, and reads G and Blake’s charts to find out just how compatible they really are. Plus, Jessica weighs in on which famous celebrity couples are written in the stars. ✨

Are G and Blake meant to be? The stars might have the answer!

SPEAKER_05

Let me pull up your chart really quick. I'm looking, okay, can I? Can I?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Let's see.

SPEAKER_05

Let's see what's going on. Okay, so you're actually. Excited. One of you, we won't name names, is like, let's go! Take a break, it's gonna be fine. And the other one's like, no, we must serve, we must be careful. And this is like a constant tension point between the two of you. No infidelity. Blake, if you ever cheated, I would feel so bad for you or her. Because it would be done. There would be fire. The consequences would be so dramatic. But but and then you don't, you're not, you don't cheat. Well, actually, that's a lie, isn't it? Oh, I just realized you could.

SPEAKER_03

We just got married. That's a good part. Said what?

SPEAKER_00

No way she said that.

SPEAKER_01

Hi everyone, and welcome back to another episode of He Sid G Sid. We're back here in Denver.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, we're at the home studio. I am so excited because of a very special guest that we have today. She's an astrologer, a psychic medium, and an animal communicator.

SPEAKER_01

That's right, we're stepping out of the box a little bit. Uh this we're not, you know, this isn't a pop culture person or anything. We wanted to wanted to maybe help our uh Starcross matchmaking abilities.

SPEAKER_02

And then also dive a little bit deeper into our me and Blake Battleball.

SPEAKER_01

I'm terrified, I'm not gonna lie. I've never done anything like this, or there'll be a reading or anything like this. So I'm I'm really interested uh in how this is gonna go.

SPEAKER_07

Uh I love this stuff.

SPEAKER_01

Let's get into it. Let's get into it. Please welcome Jessica Lenato to the pod.

SPEAKER_02

I'm so excited. Excited. Yeah. Thank you so much for joining us. How are you doing today?

SPEAKER_05

Honestly, really good. It's been a good day so far. How about you guys? Same.

SPEAKER_02

Good. I mean, you know, chugging along. So uh the stars are in alignment today, is what you're saying.

SPEAKER_05

I mean, honestly, I would not say that because tomorrow is an eclipse, and there's just so many challenging transits this week. So it's just like a really emotionally intense time. The stars are giving us challenges. Yeah. But I spent the first part of my day with trees, so I'm doing okay.

SPEAKER_01

That's a good way to start your day.

SPEAKER_02

You gotta talk to the trees, they're wise.

SPEAKER_01

She's uh she's huge into all listen, you and G are gonna be best friends by the beginning of the podcast. Best friends.

SPEAKER_02

I'm starting to talk to my peach tree. Okay.

SPEAKER_05

Uh but I love a peach tree. I'm sorry, but I do talk to my trees. Yeah, they love it. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

No, G's a big believer in like talking to plants and trees and like her garden. Yeah, my garden.

SPEAKER_02

Because it makes them grow more beautiful.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, that's what she says.

SPEAKER_02

Uh, well, for anyone else that doesn't talk to the trees and doesn't know what who you are and what you do, tell us a little bit about yourself.

SPEAKER_05

Sure. Um, okay, so I am all the things you said, I'm an astrologer. I started consulting professionally in 1994, 95. Um, and so I've been doing it for many, many years now, decades, I guess. Um, and somewhere along the way in my early 30s, I realized I was psychic. And kind of in my early 30s, I realized I was psychic, and then I realized I could talk to dead people, and then I realized I could communicate with animals. And I was like, it blew my mind because even though I was already an astrologer, I honestly didn't believe in any of that stuff. I was like, astrology works, but I don't know about these psychics. But then it all started kind of coming online for me, and I was already in a full-time private practice as an astrologer. So it just um is my life's work. And in back in 2018, I started my own podcast where I, you know, do horoscopes, but I also do like in-depth readings and I've written some books about astrology, and I'm basically super woo.

SPEAKER_02

Wow. So you said that in your early 30s, you realized that you had these like psychic abilities. Did you always feel that way that you had some sort of inclination, or did you randomly tap into something and then you're like, oh my god, what is this? And then you just kind of kept diving into that.

SPEAKER_05

You know, I I literally like I can look back at experiences I had when I was really young and be like, of course it was a psychic experience. You didn't just like have good sense of people, like it was intuition. But I genuinely did not look for it. I didn't want it. And because I was already consulting with clients, you know, as an astrologer, my clients would come in and they'd be like asking me psychic questions, and I would be like, You're wasting your money. Like, I can't do that. But I had bad boundaries because I was young. So I would try and then I would be accurate. And I was like, they're just, you know, the butter melts before the toast is warm. They just think I'm right. I really didn't believe it until things started to happen like very quick. I started having certain psychic experiences that I couldn't deny, where I just knew things I shouldn't know. Um, and then dead people started really showing up. And I should say, because a lot of people don't know, being a psychic doesn't mean you can talk to dead people. Being a medium means you can talk to dead people. A lot, most mediums are also psychic, but they're not always. And a lot of psychics are not mediums, so it's important to say, and then animal communication is a whole other ball of wax, but they just kind of all started happening at once. And it honestly really shocked me and it changed made me change my whole entire life. Um, because astrology is so analytical. I know it might not sound that way to some people, but it is like a study. Whereas like psychic ability, mediumship, animal communication, that is like was way further out there than I was planning on going in my life. So yeah, but then it started happening to such an extent where I couldn't deny it. And so yeah, I've just cultivated those skills since then. I'm in my early 50s now, so for 20 years.

SPEAKER_02

I do feel like a lot of people either believe in it or they don't, or they're like, oh, this is like a whole bunch of woo-woo. My whole thing is because he he likes to say, Blake likes to say that, oh, you know, half of this stuff doesn't really make sense. Or and I'm like, well, look at your heroes, the Greeks, the Romans, like the the Mayans, like these very, very um just advanced civilizations based their whole lives around the stars. So, like, why is it so weird now to think that it actually affects us?

SPEAKER_05

I mean, even Christianity, the three wise men who foretold the coming of Christ were literally astrologers looking at charts. They weren't looking at the star, they were looking at the stars, right? Like it's it's in every ancient culture. But you know, you're not wrong, Blake. There's a lot of schlock out there, right? There's a lot, I mean, the internet is full of everything, and including slop, right? And I think I think that the thing about astrology, there's two things that I'll say about it. One is I don't believe in astrology. I don't believe in the internet, and I don't believe in ibuprofen. They work. I don't exactly understand how they work, they work. And when they don't work, you know what I do? I take a different tool. My internet doesn't work, I restart it. I don't say, oh, the internet's not real. I say, oh, it's not working right now. Same thing.

SPEAKER_01

I never thought of it like that.

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That's crazy.

SPEAKER_05

I have a very pragmatic attitude about it. I really do. And then the other thing is I would say, like the thing about astrology is that it is a very intensive form of study. And there, there's a way that a lot of times when we have like conversations in public, we have to dumb down things as a way to make it make sense. And with astrology, because there's no regulation, really just anyone can hop on the internet and be like, girl, I'm an astrologer, right? And then start talking. And and so there is a need for crit critical thinking and common sense. So I'm actually a fan of that. And also, it's easy to have strong opinions about things we don't know anything about. And so I always challenge people with strong opinions to be like, okay, but study it for five minutes, you know what I mean, and then see what you think. Because astrology is math, which is really interesting.

SPEAKER_02

Uh-huh. Would you say that that's one of like the biggest misconceptions in your field of work? It's just people pretending that they know what they're saying and then kind of spewing out all this slop or just false information, and then it's just kind of diluting what you've studied for decades.

SPEAKER_05

Yes, I would say that is definitely, definitely it. And you know, and there's different ways of using astrology. People use it kind of like fortune telling, being like, oh, you're gonna run into a dark-haired stranger at the end of the day, like that kind of thing. I wouldn't do that. Um, my personal use of astrology is kind of deep and uh trauma-informed and more like counseling. Um, but there's different ways of using different tools, right? I mean, the same thing is true for therapy. You can go to a therapist who's really like keeps things really surface, and other therapists will really challenge you or use different tools. The same thing with astrology.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, I'm really curious then about her approach because I've done, I've done some, I've done light readings, I've I've had my palms read. Um, I I just like to know what my rising moon and sun are and other people, so that like, for example, when we started dating, I was like, are we compatible, Bob? And I was like, shit, I don't really think so. But uh, but it I don't know, it works for us. But there's just so many layers to it. So that's interesting.

SPEAKER_01

There is, and I think so. Like, if somebody came to you was like, this is all made up, like, how would you react? You'd be like, like, would you be pragmatic about it? Be like, listen, like, go study for five minutes, or come to, you know, come listen to my podcast for five minutes.

SPEAKER_05

So many times. So many people have said that to me in my life. And I say the same thing pretty much every time. That's cool. You don't have to like it. I I have no interest in convincing someone to like astrology, ibuprofen, or the internet. It doesn't work for you, don't use it. Like, I really like I do come back to those as examples because not everything has to be for everyone, but most people who don't like astrology don't like it either because um men are acculturated to think it's silly, because, and there's actually like a whole a really interesting historical background, which I won't bore you with, around how astrology was marketed to women in the early 1900s. Um, whereas before that, astrology was primarily used by kings and rulers, and it was the work of scholars. So it was the work of men by men for men, for better or worse. And it really changed culturally. And so some of it is, I think, cultural, some of it is religious. People have religious reasons for not being interested in other anything other than their own religion.

SPEAKER_06

Right.

SPEAKER_05

And then a lot of it is just like, oh, I I saw I read a bunch of horoscopes and they seem silly, so now I think it's all silly, which is kind of like somebody bringing you to a county fair, being like, have some cotton candy, have a candy apple, and then you being like, food's gross. I don't like food, food's not good for you. Whereas it's like there's like candy and that's fun, but you don't eat it all the time. And then there's like, you know, vegetables. Right. So that's kind of my my hot take on that.

SPEAKER_01

I like the way you you approach it because you're you're not like you know, it reminds you of like somebody who's religious when they're trying to save you, it's like overwhelming or whatever, and you're like, no, no, no, you're not pushing astrology on anybody. You're just kind of like, right, okay, if you don't believe it, like you know, it is what it is, and maybe you'll come around when you hear from me.

SPEAKER_02

And I mean, and so coming from someone who can literally like talk to animals, that's just a really great way to just be able to like spread her message to because you're not feeling sold to right now, but it because at the end of the day, astrology is very different than that mediumship because it is so rooted in science and math.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

So one of the reasons I think that I have trouble sometimes with you know things like this, whether it be astrology or you know, when you talk about yeah, yeah, just yeah, in general, is because I I hate the feeling of not having control. So in your experience, in your opinion, like how much control do we have, more or less, or like is everything just written in the stars? Is everything fade, destiny? Like, how do you feel about it?

SPEAKER_05

Okay, such a good question. You're asking, you're you're asking the hard haters, and I like it. Um, I believe in some version of 50-50. I don't really believe it's 50-50, but I believe in predestiny and I believe in free will equally. I believe that there are certain things. Listen, the three of us are having a conversation. We were born into different age groups, we are from, we're different gender, we are so different. I am not predestined to have the experience that you have, Blake. Like there is certain things in our predestiny, forget astrology, that we can look at that is just, I have free will, but I don't have free will to walk around like you do, as an example, right? So what we do have free will around is how we choose to engage with our nature, with our default setting, if you will, or your birth chart, if you will, right? We have free will around like what kind of a like husband or wife to be, what kind of friend to be, what kind of person to be. We do not have free will around parts of our nature, parts of our history, parts of our culture, and the conditions that we live in. And the thing a lot of people don't know about astrology is we can look at the birth chart to not only see like your personality, like the big three, like the sun, moon rising will show you, but also um cultural conditions before that your parents were dealing with when you were conceived. We can see class issues, we can see immigration patterns, we can see all kinds of things that reflect not just individual choices, but cultural context, which shapes so much of who we are, what we believe, how we feel. And we have free will around those things, but we don't have free will around where we come from. That is predestiny. And it's all at the risk of sounding super cheesy, Richard and the stars. You know, it is written in the birth chart. If you are a skilled enough astrologer to be able to read those things, and yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Speaking of stars and all of this fun stuff, we actually have a matchmaking show within He Said G Set called Star Crossed. And we love to matchmake our friends or just other people in the reality world like us that didn't have a good uh chance at love on TV. We think of so many different things to put these people together. And my I want to learn how to do it with astrology. Like what just in general, like a baseline, what would you look for as an astrologist to match with people for let's say our show Starcross?

SPEAKER_05

Okay, so this is the tricky part because I don't have a quick and easy answer. I okay, and I have done this for the two of you. I look at each individual birth chart, and then I cast something called a composite chart, which is basically like there's your son, there's his son, and then we create the the son of us. So not me, I'm not involved. But then it's like basically the midpoint between the two of you becomes your mutual son. So we do this for all the planets and basically it articulates the chart, the chart articulates if there's likely to be dishonesty, okay, if there's likely to be infidelity, if there's likely to be power struggles that are workable or not so workable. Um, there's also aspect We just got married as a voice.

SPEAKER_03

Okay.

SPEAKER_05

Congratulations again. I congratulate you a hundred times. I I don't uh Zach, I don't even have your chart in front of me right now, but I will say you can see kind of all of these things. And because I have that perspective, what I'm looking for for couple compatibility, it's not sun sign. I don't, I don't really do sun sign compatibility. I don't do moon sign compatibility. Those things have some track record, but it's not enough. Because just like you said, the two of you get along so well, you're married, you're in love, and your technical sun sign compatibility is meh, right? So it's much more than that. So what I am looking for is baseline shared values or a feeling of just loving the person and compatible problems. Both of you have problems because you're people. Everybody has a problem, everybody has lots of problems, right? So the question isn't, will this relationship have problems or not? It's are the problems healthy? Like if I need to learn how to be more assertive and you need your partner to be assertive, then we're a great match. If I need to learn how to be more assertive and that really triggers you when somebody's not assertive, maybe not a good match. So it's more about compatible problems than anything else.

SPEAKER_01

I like that. Compatible problems.

SPEAKER_05

Yes. Okay. Problems that help you become a healthier version of yourself instead of have you, I mean, we've all been in relationships where you're just like, I can't believe I'm doing this again. I can't believe I'm with another person where I'm doing this again. And so we want healthy problems, not a lack of problems. That's what I'm always looking for.

SPEAKER_01

I say that a lot. I it's funny you say that because like I always say, like, the fact that maybe we argue or fight, it'd be better that than not. Like, I feel like it'd be worse if I like like we didn't have any kind of passion or whatever it is, you know what I mean? Or like problems that we, you know, are compatible, more or less. That's interesting. I like the compatible problems.

SPEAKER_05

Compatible problems is I so much astrology tries to promise this like Disney princess life. Right. Where you never fight and you're always happy and like everything's romantic. And that's not reality. Reality is we all had complicated childhoods, we all have complicated emotions, we all have bad tones of voice sometimes. And so it's really about whether or not you treat each other with a baseline of respect and you agree on what that looks like. Because what I've learned through my job is that if you don't agree on the problem, you will never agree on the solution. So if you agree on what the problem is, you can be a team and work to solve it. This is such good advice.

SPEAKER_01

We're gonna, this is a therapy session. We're gonna leave here. No, that's great. That's great. So let's get into some astrology. Um you give some info to our listeners right now. Like, what are the stars right now? Like, what's happening right now in the stars?

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SPEAKER_01

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SPEAKER_05

As we speak, it is eclipse season, which means that um on August 12th we have a solar eclipse, and then on the 27th, I'm pretty sure it's the lunar eclipse. And eclipses kind of ratchet up emotions. They make people a lot more emotional. They make things a little bit more dramatic, and they are kind of evolutionary periods where you can really change in big ways. The effects of what happens, for instance, with the solar eclipse on the 12th will play themselves out for the next six months. And the same thing with the one that's coming on the 27th. So how you show up, not what's happening, but how you handle what's happening, that is really important in the month of August 2026. Yeah. Other than that, this is a really like profound revolutionary time astrologically, and it is reflected in technology, the climate, politics, art, every everywhere you look. It's a time of so much change, and some of it's really exciting, and some of it is not. And that is reflected in the stars.

SPEAKER_02

Okay, I'm just gonna side quest a little bit. Side quest. Does the eclipse have anything to do with the earthquakes that have been happening in South America? Okay, okay.

SPEAKER_05

Because that is a really good question. I I don't have in SOS. I have avoided the astrology of weather because predicting weather is so chaotic without the climate crisis, but with the climate crisis, it's even more chaotic. But honestly, I have noticed with eclipses, we often do see major earthquakes because that one is devastating. Yeah. And there was one not long ago in Japan. I think it was like a week or two ago.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, I didn't know that. I knew Venezuela got one in the yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Venezuela, Colombia got one two days ago. Yeah. And I'm just like, what? And then and these are like uh doublets, they're calling. Like, what are the odds that they're that they have two in the same big seismic quakes in the same like?

SPEAKER_01

So I'm just I didn't even know there was astrology with weather, like I didn't know that was a thing.

SPEAKER_02

Well, I just feel like eclipses in general are just so uh tumultuous, and I feel like it's all connected, the universe, you know, the weather. Yeah, eclipses are very powerful. Okay, that was very interesting. Yeah, um, but okay, with that, so however you handle yourself right now is how you're going to see things play out within the next six months, is what you're is what you're saying. So the things that we see in the world as well will take six months to really reveal themselves. Okay. So what's the what's the theme that's happening right now?

SPEAKER_05

Related to the eclipses, I would say that this eclipses theme has a lot to do with courage and with tapping into your passions and what you actually are convicted around. I think this is a period where a lot of people are questioning their lives and what will what what will come next. And it is emotionally trying. And so we are in a place right now, astrologically, where we be, we are being called to like tap into our center, you know, that that sense of purpose that makes you feel like, okay, this might be hard, but I know I'm doing the right thing. That's what this eclipse is calling us towards. Now, the eclipse at the end of the month, chaos. It's gonna like tap you into intuition, but bring about unpredictable circumstances. This one is not so chaotic, but that one certainly is. Let me pull up your chart really quick. I'm looking, okay. Can I? Can I? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Let's see, let's see what's going on. Okay, I'm just gonna confirm something. April 22, 1989, 8:37 p.m. in uh Denver, Colorado.

SPEAKER_01

Yep. Colorado.

SPEAKER_00

That's correct.

SPEAKER_05

Okay, great. Just checking. Okay, so you're actually excited. Sorry. Um, you've been going through a lot for a couple of years now, actually. Um, and you have been, hold on, let me just get this in the right place so I can actually see people and see it. The the last several years has been really trying. It's been a time where you've like come into yourself in many ways and figured out how to like navigate people stuff in a major way. More recently, like in 2026, there has been a major shift, I would imagine, in your love life. I guess that's probably true since you got married. Um, and also around your finances. What it comes down to is that whatever your motivations around money have been historically, it's time to 2.0 that. Like it's time for you to have faith in your own capacity to navigate the life you want to live. You're welcome. Um, the life you want to live, and your ability to make money, spend money, and still have money. This is actually like a big trigger for you.

SPEAKER_01

And so very big, very big trigger for you. That's crazy.

SPEAKER_05

Like that'll come back around when we talk about relationship stuff. You don't need to be driven by scarcity because you actually don't have scarcity. And so this is like, I'm talking about money, but I'm also talking about creative opportunities. I'm talking about love, I'm talking about friendship, I'm talking about your whole sense of self. You've told yourself that you've been driven and you haven't acknowledged how much fear has driven you. And you're at this place in your life where you're happy enough where you can actually realize you don't need to live like that. Like you don't need to motivate through scarcity, and you can still be motivated. You can drive without drive, white knuckling it. You know what I mean? And this is like a very big transition for you. It is really big. And T B H, it's like years. You have years of stepping into your power that is happening. And one other thing I'll say about this. Um, okay. And you're young. How old are you?

SPEAKER_01

37.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, okay, 37. So you're adult. You're a full-ass adult. Okay. So one of the things that is just kind of like a hot aside that I'm going to tell you because I'm now your astrologer, your personal astrologer. You can tell people that, you can quote me on that. Um, is that one of the things you've come here, like on a spiritual level, to really learn and embody is how important family is to you and home is to you. And so opportunities that will rip you from that anchoring place, it's only gonna work for a short period of time. Because for you, if your opportunities don't help to feed you in being, like you need to putter. Like you need to like do nothing around the house. You need to like just be at times. And I see that you you don't do that probably. Yeah, I'm seeing it. You're just driven, driven, driven. It gives them anxiety to putter.

SPEAKER_01

It gives me anxiety to sit. Yeah, yeah. I always gotta go quite a bit.

SPEAKER_05

It does, but it is a sign of you being happy, is you actually like finding a little chill, sitting with your partner. I don't know if y'all plan on having kids, sitting with your kids. Like, this is really where your joy is at. And so, you know, you're at that perfect age to fucking like grind to work hard, you know what I mean? And also you're not the quickest to change, like you're not the most adaptable person in the room, probably. Um, and I'm I know you the two of you are alone in a room together, so I was that was pointed.

SPEAKER_01

You nailed some things in there that is that was crazy. Like you've been in our therapy sessions, like that was like crazy because like I do have such a scarcity mindset when it comes to financials and money and and a lot of things in my life. Like, I'm more afraid of losing them than I am of like sitting in the moment with it, you know. I'm very like, that's just how I am, and so yeah, there were some things in it that were.

SPEAKER_02

And I'm the complete opposite. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So uh when you're talking about problems that can be like, you know, agreed on and then ways that we can feed off of each other. I try to teach him about you know, money is energy, abundance, and like it's out there, you just have to you know go out there and grab it and then enjoy what you have.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, and then you uh you also mentioned like within the last like six months or so, like I have felt like a weird change, and like I'm trying to be more like positive and like it's been lovely, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm like I'm like reading a lot, I'm reading a lot of things on that, and I'm like listening to a lot of podcasts and stuff, and so yeah, I'm trying to like change been lovely. Yeah, so that's that was wild. That was that's great.

SPEAKER_05

But just keep saying something too personal. This is the last thing I'll say, then I can move on to your chart. Um, is you were raised with your dad, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, I mean, my parents divorced. My mom's I mean, my mom's been in my life my whole life, but my parents divorced and I moved in with my dad when I was 16.

SPEAKER_02

And it was a nice divorce considering at the time it was maybe not. No, but I had the worst now.

SPEAKER_05

So it looks like you know, this issue around money and this like intensity around money comes out of your dad's side of the family, comes from your dad. And the way that your dad handled money was very intense. And you you have kind of talking about predestiny and free will, right? Like that was your question. You were in some ways predestined to be tight-knuckled, scarcity-driven, kind of overly concerned with money, but never really enjoying it. So it's just like I gotta have it to have it because I'm scared I won't. That comes out of your patrilineage, that comes out of your dad and your dad's side. And you have the free will to actually enjoy the abundance you have, whether that's love, whether that's like the fucking gift of time. Guess what? 37, that only lasts 12 months. Do you know what I mean? The gift of time is beautiful. And so figuring out how to choose that without going into like collapse because you're like, oh my God, I'm letting go of everything, is really important. And you are in a period of your life where you could blow past that lesson or double down on it. So when you're negotiating opportunities, think about quality of life. Think about space to spend time in your family alone if you need time alone, like whatever, and not just like, oh MG, this is great. I should take this. Because maybe it's great and you should take it, but before you've decided you have nothing but free will. After you've decided you have nothing but obligation. So that's my advice to you. And that's interesting. I know it's not easy for you, but that is that is what I would say.

SPEAKER_02

I also think that just to her point, you being in this pivotal moment of being able to like shift your mindset or just your energy in it, I feel like that's so important to actually activate on it because I feel like that is one of like the lessons that your soul is trying to learn, right? Or maybe you're trying to like decondition yourselves and like so that you can cut that sort of like generational scarcity mindset so that you can start a new pattern. Like, I just feel like at this time, if it's something that it is something that you feel like would be would elevate yourself and your quality of life, then like I think you're doing a great job at it so far, honestly. But that's just so interesting that that's what she's doing. That's wild that that was the thing.

SPEAKER_01

She doesn't never met me before. I promise you guys, we've never met before. That was why we've talked on the podcast about that, about me and the way I look at money.

SPEAKER_02

But we also like, you know, we just trickle it in here and there because it's just something that the economy sucks, y'all. Like, what are you gonna do about it?

SPEAKER_05

Can I look at your chart, JP? Yeah, what are you dying to say? You have this gorgeous Sun-Venus conjunction in Aries, and it sits opposite Jupiter, and you just are like, you just pull things to you. You just pull things to you. Money, people, experiences, and it's like easy. And people feel happy to be like with you in these experiences. Like you are like a flow queen. It is amazing. And also, sometimes when there's something you want just for you, it's a different story. Sometimes when it's something you want just for you, it's like harder for you to give it the energy that you give things that involve other people. And so it can kind of like get in your way. And hold on, there was something I was gonna say about this that felt really important. Okay, I have my note, and there it is. Okay, it can get in your way, and this is why spirituality works so well for you. Because when you come back to um your spiritual motivation, it's easier for you to pull in positive instead of resonate with your fears because, girl, you can you have a very intense emotional nature, and it would be too easy for you to tell yourself the worst is coming and the worst is all that can happen. So, like, even though you're so positive, you are also somebody who's just like, yeah, we're all, it's all over in five seconds. Like the worst possible thing could happen at any time. And it's very, they're both true at once for you. So it's like it can be confusing, and spirituality is such a valuable way for you to like, I won't say tame chaos, I'll say make make meaning of chaos so that you can actually do something with it. Yeah, and you're like a very generative person. Like you do you, I mean, obviously you have a podcast, but do you like lecture or something like that? Do you like go and speak to people like a motivational speaker?

SPEAKER_02

No, but I should like that's something that I've read in my chart too, that it's I'm some sort of like healer or something. And in a way, I when I did Love is Blind, I remember thinking, like, I am suffering so much right now, but if I if it helps one person, I feel like that's my purpose.

SPEAKER_05

Like, I'm down to like use myself as a vessel and then honestly, I think it's possible one day you might write a book or decide to do some sort of motivational speaking because you've got that Jupiter, Venus, and stuff, gorgeous, right? But you have something in your birth chart. Um, it's a T square to Pluto, Saturn and the moon are opposite. And are you in contact with both your parents?

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, it's a very loaded situation with my parents, yeah. Uh-huh. It is very, very, very, very.

SPEAKER_05

And are they together?

SPEAKER_02

No.

unknown

Okay, great.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, I mean, they both had their own very intense childhoods. They came to each other with a lot of trauma. You absolutely were in the presence of a lot of trauma. And you were also a beloved chosen child. And also, oh my god, there was a lot of shit to eat in your childhood. There was just like a lot of intensity. And so you have really I was a neglected princess. A neglected princess. Yeah, I honestly like that is that feels like, yeah, that's that's what this looks like. And for you, your emotions get really intense and dramatic because your fear of abandonment is over oversized, right? And that, and we'll talk about that in your relationship chart in a minute, but like, I just want to validate that this is a very difficult thing for you to navigate when it gets active, even if your brain's like, that's not what's happening right now. Your emotions are like, yes, like it's very dramatic for you. And so being in a partnership where you can fight with your partner is the only thing that would ever work with you. Because if you can't fight, then you don't know what's real. And if you don't know what's real, you are not going to be happy. Like you are not going to be happy. You have a really um, you have a really deep nature and you need to sometimes like hit those depths in order to like in order to exercise some of the fears you have. Does that does that make sense?

SPEAKER_02

No, 100%. And I feel like what's healed me a lot when it comes to like that whole fear of abandonment is becoming a mom. So we have a two and a half year old. And congratulations! Yeah, thank you. And so I just I feel like a lot of that, yeah, abandonment has just very much healed when I had my son.

SPEAKER_05

Okay, that's wonderful to hear. And okay. Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. Okay. I want to say a number of things. One thing is you need to make your own money. Nothing about you, Blake. It's just that that's really important to you. I want to validate that and I want to say it in front of him, and that's just felt important. Yeah. The other thing I want to say is parenting is like you in some ways were really born to parent. You love that sweet space between being a like a disciplinarian and being fun. You're good at both, eh?

SPEAKER_02

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Um, and also it's really important that you have your own career. And it's only, I'm saying it's important to your mental health, like your emotional and your mental health. So important. And so if the two of you, can I look at your relationship chart though? Yeah, go for it.

SPEAKER_01

Let's jump in.

SPEAKER_02

No, I'm very independent. So, as far as like career money, like that's always been just a very independent thing.

SPEAKER_05

You have to stay independent. Like, it is so important because if you're telling me you had a child with this man and you feel more secure, I know that you have not compromised your independence. Because if you had to compromise your independence in order to be in this partnership, then it would activate that codependent part of your nature that makes you really unhappy. And you saw that with your parents, I imagine. Like the the what happens when there's not real freedom in the relationship. The two of you, when you have problems, it's either around, okay. One of, I won't say the other things it's around, but one of the things that it can really be around is like, you assumed I do that. You assumed that that was on me. Like the two of you make weird assumptions that are not weird necessarily, but they're weird to the other person. You don't always think the same about things. So talking through assumptions around like basic stuff like that can help you get ahead of a problem before it comes. So that is, I've just given you excellent advice that you may or may not take, but trust me, she good. Um, okay. The other thing, the other thing I'm gonna say is you've got this Jupiter-Saturn opposition in your relationship chart, which basically means we're gonna kill each other. You two already told me is that one of you, we won't name names, is like, let's go take a risk, it'll be fine. And the other one's like, no, we must conserve, we must be careful. And this is like a constant tension point between the two of you. And it is one of those things that when you're fighting, it's what you're fighting about. Or when the two of you are like thriving and having each other's back and being so good, that's what's happening, is you're like, you're, you're like easing your roles and helping each other out. This is a love relationship. You guys never would have been friends. You were always destined to be in love and to be partnered. You have a Sun, Venus, Mercury conjunction in the eighth house. And what that means is that you like each other, you have a crush on each other. One day you'll be old and wrinkly and you'll still think the other one's cute. Oh my God, yeah, I think he's so cute. It's not gonna go away. You also are just like constantly talking to each other. Like I know you have a podcast together, but you're actually like constantly like sharing little things, just talking to each other, you're interested in each other. And honestly, that's another thing I look for. Because if one person's like, oh, I love you, oh, I think you're hot, but I don't really find you that interesting, shit doesn't last. This you have you have this really lovely thing where you're interested in each other. And you have to keep it. I'm sorry, Blake, but you have to keep it interesting, you have to keep it weird, you have to take chances. You just gotta keep that going because it's what keeps this relationship expanding, you know what I mean? Which helps both of your careers, it helps your mental health. Like it's just like good for America, you know what I mean? It's not just that. So it's like, I would just say keep keep going with that. Another thing that I see. Okay, so you fight, you fight. Uh-huh. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But you have this Mercury, you you have a Mercury moon opposition, which basically means you have you're both emotional. And you both are like, why'd you say it like that? But why'd you say it like that? That's the kind of fight you have. It's all about my tone. Oh fucking tone. It's tone. It's tone. Yeah. It's like whatever you could just ask me the dishes, but why'd you ask me to do the dishes like that? And so this is one of those things that I just gotta say. Tone is tone, but it's more about motivation and intent. I would say, but I I have a tone problem myself, so I'm on your side that way. But but that is like a thing that shows up in your relationship chart. It's I don't think it's a big deal because it's not about lying and it's not about manipulation or cruelty. It's like, why are you annoying me right now? Which is fine because if you guys can fight about it, it's not a big deal. Is it going to last? Great question. And it's a bold question. It's a bold question. Hold on. Let me look. Let me look. Let me look. Um, so okay. Hold please. Here's the thing. We're back to free will. No, no, no, no, no. This is like my precursor to answering your question. Here's the thing about free will. People respond in all kinds of ways to aging, to trauma, to life, whatever, to success. And so when I see in a birth in a relationship chart, oh, you totally have it in you to make it work long term, or this looks really hard. You have free will. You can stay in a bad relationship. You can mess up a good relationship. You have free will. So I can tell you what the chart says, but either of you could at any point be like, peace, this is done, right? Okay, but what the chart says I see what you're saying.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah, yeah.

unknown

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05

I mean, I have seen couples that I'm like, why, why, why are you together? And they fucking stay at it. And vice versa, right? Right. I've seen couples where I'm like, I don't understand why this one person left. Like, what happened? Um, like a common thing I've seen in my practice is when a person's parent dies, they freak out and then they cheat or something. Like this is like a thing that people do, not because of the relationship, but because it's a trauma response. Anyways, back to your question. Yeah, it looks like you have a great, it looks like you have a great uh relationship. The problems that you have are very workable based on your individual personalities, and you have love binding you. I know that sounds cheesy, and I'm really not a romantic person, but you have love binding you, and that is a really big bind. You when you stop being interested in growing as a team is when you have trouble, right? And I think I imagine that so far you're like curious about life and curious about each other and like growing together. That is a big part of why you're so successful. So don't forget that part. That's just like so insane how on.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, there's a lot there that I was like, wow.

SPEAKER_02

A dot.

SPEAKER_01

She was saying was pretty funny. That's we literally the the exact phrase you use. Like, why'd you say it like that? Like, we actually say that a lot to each other, me mostly to you, but that's why we both were like, What? And I think one of the cool things you said too, which is true, like the talk thing, like we get along, we do everything together. Everything, like everything. We work together, live together, parent together, travel together, we do everything together.

SPEAKER_02

Like friends, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_05

Like we like talk about things that we find interesting or or like art is like a really good mix of like lovers who are attracted to each other, who probably stay attracted to each other long term, but also like the friendship part, it is really strong on your chart. Like the the actual like activity partners, like sit around, talk about things, you enjoy talking shit in similar like compatible ways, I would say. Like you, you, you are y'all are good. Y'all are good, and the problems that you have as a team, honestly, are more about the problems you have with yourselves, right? Like, if we talk about the things that you really struggle with, you would struggle with anyone with those problems. And those are the problems I want for couples, the problems that you have to work on no matter what you're doing, and you happen to be someone you love and you like. So you're working on your problems together. Do you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_02

They say that relationships are like a mirror, right? So the things that you have issues within yourself, that person is going to make you face them because whatever the way that they react or the way that they, you know, speak to you about something, that's going to mirror how what issues you have within yourself. So it's never not really them, you, yeah. Unless they're like manipulative and narcissistic. But that's not in our chart. There's no line, there's no manipulation. I've never felt that.

SPEAKER_01

All right, we want to play a little game though.

SPEAKER_02

Let's do it.

SPEAKER_01

Play a little game with you. Uh, it's called Written in the Stars. So obviously, we're just gonna give some sun signs here, but what we won't, it's very similar to like maybe it'll help us in our Starcross matchmaking. Um, but we're gonna play a little game where we give you the biggest couples in pop culture. I'm pretty sure you're gonna know these people. I'm pretty sure.

SPEAKER_05

Oh, I'm really bad at pop culture.

SPEAKER_01

Okay, well, if you don't know them, let us know. But I think you'll know. They're pretty big, they're pretty big. Um, but I want you to tell us maybe like how compatible they are based just on their you know, sun sign. I know that's not it's harder, yeah.

SPEAKER_05

It's just a sun sign, but um that's terrible poor practice of astrology, but I do it for the game.

SPEAKER_01

I was thinking I'm literally like, she's probably like this is terrible, but you know, like it's terrible, but I'm into it. Okay, all right, all right. You want to do the first one?

SPEAKER_02

Okay, so um this will also just help us when we're thinking for Starcross, even though you're literally saying not to do this. Okay, so first one Taylor Swift, she's a Sagittarius, and Travis Kelsey, he's a Libra.

SPEAKER_05

Great pairing. This is like a pairing of two people who are just like um the way they move through the world is very compatible. They like to have fun, they like to have adventures, they like to be around people. Is it super deep? Not inherently, but does it like work? Is it the right vibe? Yes, right.

SPEAKER_02

They he said they've never had a fight.

SPEAKER_01

I was gonna say, that's it's so funny because we don't obviously know them either, but just from watching them on socials and from what we've seen, that seems like they just have a blast together.

SPEAKER_02

They have so much. Like, I don't know how deep it is, but they have a blast together. But like he said, they've been together, I think like three, four, I don't know, I'm not a Swifty, but they've been together a couple of years, and he has said, right before they got married, like, we've never had a fight. And people are like, Yeah, I wouldn't fight with my billionaire girlfriend either.

SPEAKER_01

Like, okay, so this next one's endeavor, who is a Virgo, and Tom Holland, who is a Gemini.

SPEAKER_05

He is Spider-Man. He is Spider-Man. Yes, Spider-Man, okay, Spider-Man. Virgo and Gemini are both ruled by Mercury. This is in some ways such a good pairing because they share like a restlessness, uh, like a variety of interests. There's great communication. And in other ways, Virgo is like, this is how it's done, see? And Gemini is like, wait, what'd you say? I can't remember. Um, and so I'm being very stereotypical, but this is what you ask me for too. So it's like a it's a really this is one of those pairings that like you want to see the moon signs for these two to see about compatibility. Um, and this is the thing, and I hate to be a downer, but like compatibility doesn't mean you're happy. Like just think about all the people you've been compatible with in the past because your worst parts were dating them and their worst parts were dating you. Do you know what I'm saying? So you want like the right kind of compatible, not because like when you think about that person from like a sudden a bunch of years ago, G, like in a way you were compatible with him, but like in the worst possible way. The worst possible way. Okay, so compatibility is not necessarily a good it we want to know more to know if this is a healthy pairing, right? But it's certainly like um it's it's there's a lot of reasons for a Mercury for for two Mercury babies to hang out, a Gemini and a Virgo. I could talk about this shit all day.

SPEAKER_02

You could um Hayley Bieber is a Sagittarius and Justin Bieber is a Pisces.

SPEAKER_05

Okay, I've heard of Justin Bieber because uh I am Canadian. I have no idea who this woman is. Um his wife. Is he okay? That's his wife. That's him. Okay, and what did you say their signs were?

SPEAKER_02

Sagittarius, she's a Sagittarius, and he's a Pisces because it it makes sense if it's a male or something.

SPEAKER_05

So are they like super religious people? Yes. Yeah. I think I heard that about Justin Bieber that he went super religious at some point, so that wasn't psychic or anything. But um Sagittarius and Pisces are the two zodiac signs most concerned with um belief, with uh religion, spirituality, and the two zodiac signs that really love to spend time in like philosophy, woo, all that kind of stuff. And so that can be applied to religion or to more of like what we're doing here today. Um, that is a really good pairing that has a lot of conflict, you know. So it's like a couple where they like may really be committed to each other and have a really hard time getting along at times, right? I mean, that's what the rumors are.

SPEAKER_02

It's just like they are so devoted to each other, but there have just been so many, like, for example, Justin B, she's uh she's a um a supermodel, she's uh a very big model. And I guess in a fight, Justin told her, like, you will never be on the cover of Vogue, and she ended up being on the cover of Vogue. But like things like that, like like it is known that they have conflict, you know, but they are so deeply devoted to each other. So that's just crazy.

SPEAKER_05

It's like they have the the the passion point, and it's interesting you use the word devoted because one of the key words of Pisces is devoted, it's devotion. Um, but it is uh it's a bit of a a rough road, uh kind of kind of pairing at times. I mean, it could be amazing, but it's conflictual.

SPEAKER_02

And she has a brand cold road. Okay, next up. Let's do one more.

SPEAKER_01

Let's do one more. This will be our last one. Go ahead.

SPEAKER_02

I want, I really want to know this one. Kylie Jenner, who's a Leo, and Timothy Chalamet, who's a Capricorn.

SPEAKER_05

Okay, Leo and Capricorn, and I know who those two people are. Okay. Leo and Capricorn are very interesting pairing. Um they are. It's it's such a it's like a weird like jockeying for power slash power couple energy. Those the the pairing of Leo and Capricorn either works in like such an intense way, or it is so much drama. You know, that's a it's a really kind of like hit or miss pairing. Uh and it really depends ultimately. Again, we go back to moon signs to get a little bit more about that solar compatibility.

SPEAKER_01

Okay. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05

I wish I knew that because they are such no, I mean, yeah.

SPEAKER_02

They are such an interesting couple.

SPEAKER_01

Out of those that we said, like what two signs do you think would be the most compatible?

SPEAKER_05

Of all the Zodic signs, or let's do two, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Let's do of the four that we mentioned. Um, you want me to read them one more time? Yeah. Yeah. You want me to read them? Yeah, yeah. Okay, so we got a Sagittarius and a Libra. Virgo, that's the one?

SPEAKER_05

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Okay.

SPEAKER_05

Taylor Swift and Chicago. It's just on paper. It's just on paper. Right, right. Surface. I will double down on fighting. I am such a fan of couples who fight. I really think couples who fight with each other stay together. You don't fight, then when the big thing comes up, how you don't have the skill yet, right? It's like you you hone fighting well or fighting wrong. So that said though, it's definitely Sag and Libra.

SPEAKER_01

Would that be overall of all of them as well? Or would you say there's a better?

SPEAKER_05

I wouldn't say that. I wouldn't say it's it's hard to say because it's like what's best for cancer, what's best for Gemini, right? Like it's it's not just what's best because I mean that would throw all of us out of action.

SPEAKER_04

Do you know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_05

Like, yeah, so it's really what it's easy to do.

SPEAKER_01

A Taurus.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, yeah. But you're you're Taurus Cusp.

SPEAKER_01

I am a Taurus Cusp. Yeah. This is all wild.

SPEAKER_02

Do you want to hear do you want to hear one more like crazy little tidbit? So I was with somebody for years that had his birthday, April 22nd, and he almost like proposed to somebody that had my birthday, April 3rd. And so I always say, like, we were we were looking for each other, but just in the wrong people. Yeah, we just like it was sweet. And did somebody set you up? No, we met on a random reality TV show.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, we met on a show, actually.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, we met on a show. Yeah, but we've got to be able to do that.

SPEAKER_01

So technically we got set up.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, they saw that we would be compatible.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05

I mean, honestly, like there's just you couldn't have been friends first unless you were like dating other people. Like this was romantic from the guest. From the and did you like meet each other and instantly was like, oh shit, this one literally. I mean, that's what the relationship chart looks like. It just looks like you were instantly like vibes, and I just want to talk to this person.

SPEAKER_01

That's wow, that's exactly how it happened. Because even the producer, when they were interviewing us for our show, they they did they interviewed her first, I think. Yeah, then they interviewed me, and they were like, hmm, like maybe this this might be a couple, this might work out. And it wasn't even a dating show, it was just a game show. And within the first yeah, hour, it was literally the first hour.

SPEAKER_05

I mean, it's honestly that's what it looks like. And I I love to see that in a relationship chart because as you could imagine, I see terrible things. But I'm actually I'm not seeing anything where I'm like worried for the two of you, you know, except for the things I named. The things I named are the things to work on, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. But like no infidelity.

SPEAKER_06

She looks out of two side eyes.

SPEAKER_05

This is the thing I can say, Blake. What if you ever cheated?

SPEAKER_07

She'd kill me.

SPEAKER_05

I would feel so bad for you, her, because it would be done. There would be fire, there would be I mean, you it would be a bad choice for you. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, she she she's not exactly forgiving when it comes to that.

SPEAKER_05

And I've said that multiple times. I was just like, Oh, I'm sure you have. It is just not it. I am not one of those. No, no, no. The consequences would be so dramatic. Have you seen her cyber stock? You cannot, you would never be able to handle it. You would never be able to handle it.

SPEAKER_01

Talk about show.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, but but and then you don't, you're not, you don't cheat. Well, actually, that's a lie, isn't it? Oh, I just realized you could, but it's that's more of a 20-something thing for you, right? It's like more of a like, he's a flirter or were.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, were. I don't anymore.

SPEAKER_02

Were, no, no, no, no, no, no.

SPEAKER_01

You were a good flirter.

SPEAKER_02

I shut that shit down real quick. Yeah, shut it down, shut it down.

SPEAKER_05

That's what's really important, is the shutting of it down.

SPEAKER_01

Oh boy, yeah, yeah. Well, that was great, Jessica. I feel like I learned so much about myself.

SPEAKER_02

I'm gonna schedule another session.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, I was like, to be honest, where can people like where can people find you? Whether it be I know you mentioned it. Totally. Yeah, pop podcast.

SPEAKER_05

Totally. Okay, so people can listen to my podcast. It's called Ghost of a Podcast, and I drop two episodes a week. On Sundays, I drop a horoscope for the week ahead, which is what you'd expect from an astrologer. But then on Wednesdays, I give a reader or like a listener a reading on my podcast, kind of like I did for the two of you. So listeners send in questions and um I do that. I also have a Patreon so people can learn with me and all that kind of good stuff over there. I have a mentorship tier even on my Patreon, and uh I have a book and all kinds of other fun stuff that people can check. I have two books. I'm a liar. I have two books. I forgot. Um, so you can totally check my books out and uh um and yeah, I'm I'm on www.internet.com. No, sorry, let me say that better. Just check out my website and you'll see all the things.

SPEAKER_01

Okay, and what's your what's your Instagram handle?

SPEAKER_05

Just so people Oh, I'm at Jessica underscore lengato because some weirdo stole Jessica Lanyato. Um I know, rude. And my website is lovelignato.com. My podcast is ghost of a podcast.

SPEAKER_01

Perfect. Wow. Awesome. Well, yeah, I know. I know there might be some listeners.

SPEAKER_02

I mean, G might I am so subscribed to the Patreon. Yeah, we didn't even get to talk. Do you have animals? We didn't even back, and we'll be able to do that. We have to go through all the layers. Um but I am so intrigued and enlightened, and this was great. I didn't fun.

SPEAKER_01

I was scared, I'm not gonna lie, I was a little scared, but I feel good. That's okay.

SPEAKER_02

If anything, she just gave us some really great advice. Yeah, totally for things that we already knew, right? Like nothing was nothing was outlandish, nothing was things that we didn't know about, but I like the practicalness of it combined with just the whole mystical um just aspect that it's all of this. But I just think this was so great, and thank you so so much. Everyone, please interrupt me. And um, I'm gonna try to use your advice also when pairing for Starcross.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, Starcross. I'm excited to look at all that.

SPEAKER_02

So this was lovely. Thank you so much, Jessica. I will be um calling you again.

SPEAKER_01

And thank you for listening. Be sure to like, comment, and subscribe. Subscribe, and uh, we'll see you next week.

SPEAKER_07

He said what?

SPEAKER_00

No way she said that.