HEAVY LACE

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SPEAKER_01 0:00

Second half cav, we just wrapped up this thing with the Papazo show. I definitely gotta give a big, major shout out to the big homies for having me here. Definitely gotta uh give a double salute to my man Walf. I appreciate y'all, guys. Y'all already know whenever I'm on the stack, I end up with a phone call away from here.

SPEAKER_02 0:44

Yo, yo, what up, what up, what up? You already know what it is, man. It's your man and man Pablo Zoda Pablo Zoe show with my call ho. What the walk, baby, walk, the wall, baby. He in the building.

SPEAKER_04 0:54

Yeah, you know how it is, man. What that is you got in the club over there?

SPEAKER_02 0:58

What is in the club? Man, that's the one and only, man. Heavy lace in the building. Daddy Cardi, man, Danny. Welcome to the show, my guy. Welcome to the show. Before we do the whole Miami. Before we do anything, man, you go pop this bottle real quick. You know what I'm talking about? No, you know what it is. Anybody in the building? Innovation. Twenty twenty six. We're gonna keep winning. Yo. Oh Miami. Let's do this. What's going on, man? Where they kind of you from?

SPEAKER_01 2:34

All right, let me break this down right now.

SPEAKER_02 2:36

Break it down, man. Break it down.

SPEAKER_01 2:39

So I'm from I'm from Chatelon. Okay. I always say it's the birthplace of little Haiti. Yeah. Facts. So let me break this down right quick because a lot of people get confused. Reason why we call it Chatelon is because the elementary school sit right there in the middle of my hood, right on second album on Fortnite. The school has been there since maybe like the early 1920s. But you know, back in those days it was, you know, predominantly white. White. So going into the 60s and the 70s, you know, white flight took place. And then all of us started coming in, you know, from over town, from the sub. But the school always been there. Now the reason why I say it's the birthplace of Lil Haiti, because within the 70s, when all my Haitians started coming over, all my zoos started coming over. That when I came, they kind of so we can relate. They kind of settled right there in Lemon City.

SPEAKER_04 3:36

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 3:37

Lemon City is right there in Chatelon.

SPEAKER_04 3:40

Right. Okay.

SPEAKER_01 3:41

So they just went ahead and flipped Lemon City and turned it to a little Haiti. Everything over there, Haitian owned, black owned, they carved out their whole little area. I mean, it just sprouted out. So I always say, you know, I'm from Chatelon because the school would always been there.

SPEAKER_02 3:57

Right, right.

SPEAKER_01 3:58

Since I've been growing up, my aunties, my uncles, I can remember back in the days, I used to be a jit. I used to call my grandma's house, and my auntie used to say, nah, we ain't come over there. You got to come to Chatellon. This was like in the 70s.

SPEAKER_02 4:09

Right, right, right.

SPEAKER_01 4:10

So that's all I heard. That's all I knew. That's all you know. That's the elementary school I went to. Right, right, right, right. So, and all my Zoes, all my friends from the show.

SPEAKER_02 4:17

A lot of shows over there, man. You already know what it is. A lot of them, man. Right there. Big big lip, you know, we got Fritz recipes and all them.

SPEAKER_01 4:25

That's my guy.

SPEAKER_02 4:26

Happy.

SPEAKER_01 4:27

Happy. Everybody from all off that end right there. All us in front of the Zandbox. Them ain't nobody. Them ain't guys that I I heard of. Yeah. These people I grew up with. Literally. Fritz my guy, in front of Sandbox. The old girl grew up right there on 48. I grew up on 48. Shut the line in Edison Middle, Edison Senior, and so forth and so forth. So everybody asked me where you from, Cal, Shutellon, the birthplace of Lil' Haiti. That's what it is. And the way around that.

SPEAKER_02 4:56

That's what it is. So right now, what you you you in Miami now or you somewhere else? I had to double back to Tennessee.

SPEAKER_01 5:05

Because like in 1993, 94, um, I brought some land up there. Okay, okay. So when my kids, when they graduated from school, went off to college, that was my escape route. So, okay, well, they off, they off the porch. Yeah. Let me go back up Tennessee and do something with the land I got. Because it's been sitting like for years. Oh, okay. So yeah, so once they went off to college and graduated from college, I was up there and I started making my way back down here. So yeah, but I'm in Tennessee. I'm in East East Tennessee.

SPEAKER_04 5:35

Okay, okay. Okay.

SPEAKER_01 5:36

I'm gonna say Peyton, Peyton Manning country, not to be a Peyton Manning country. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 5:41

A lot of them folks up there.

SPEAKER_01 5:42

Yeah, yeah. Shout out to T Mai. Shout out to T Mine for the Vols. They don't give him no love, but I'm gonna I'm gonna give him some love. He he the real deal at UT, but you know, they they give it up to Peyton Manning. So yeah, I let him have that, but I'm gonna give it out to T Mine. He he the real deal for um for UT.

SPEAKER_02 5:59

So, so let me ask you, right? What got you started, right? Uh wanna do what you doing, which is storytelling about, you know, like you said, the old Miami. What got you started on that?

SPEAKER_01 6:10

All right, well, funny story, me and my Jets, it was my daughter, my youngest daughter. We we slid down 54th Street and we pull up on 12th Avenue. So we pull up on 12th Avenue, I just look over to the side, I'm talking amongst myself, saying, but damn, they don't turn this building into a woo-no woo-woo-woo. Yeah. So my daughter asked me, she said, Well, Daddy, what that was back in the days. And I told her that was the pack jam. So she was like, That little building? I was like, Yeah. Yeah. She was like, Well, how y'all used to fit in there? I was like, Yeah, we used to every every Friday and Saturday night, we used to pack up in there. So she was like, Well, Daddy, how old y'all was when y'all was gone? I'm like, we're like 15, 15, 16, because you know, we talked in 1985, 1986. So aunts belongs to me. They go home and they talk to the old girl. Yeah, daddy said they used to go to the club, you know, this, that, and the third. So then the auntie and the mama say, Yeah, your daddy really was like outside, outside. You know, because growing up, they were sheltered. They really didn't know, you know, because the landscape is different right now in the city.

SPEAKER_04 7:14

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 7:14

Right. You know, this generation, they don't have an idea how it was back in our days and how it looked. Most definitely. Because, you know, the regeneration and so forth and so forth. So when the mama, they baby, you know, my baby baby mother told her, you know, what it was, she called me like, Daddy, yeah, I just know you feel like, you know, when you come home, you you reading books, you, you like, so you really was outside like that. I was like, yeah, something like that. Because, you know, they're not privy to how we used to live. And I'm gonna let them know about that. So she said, Daddy, you ever thought about talking about that? I'm like, nah. She was like, Daddy, our generation really don't know, you know, how y'all used to, you know, get down like that. Yeah, yeah. So I was like, man, I don't know where to start. Like, I wouldn't know where to start when it comes to that. Daddy, I got you. She was like, Yeah. Oh, right here?

SPEAKER_00 8:05

Yeah.

unknown 8:06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 8:07

And her little sister. Yeah. So I'm like, well, it's a lot of stuff I can't really, you know, talk about and care to discuss. Like I say, they're not privy to, you know, my before life and how the city was. Like, daddy, no, we'll go all around that. We got this. MacBooks, iPhone, tripod, all that. They got me all that for Father's Day. So we're like, Daddy, just try. You know what to say. Yeah, real talk. Real talk. You know what to say. What's up? You know not what to say. So I'm like, okay, okay, associate dad, but you got to keep trying. So, you know, me, you know, we come from the era where we ran from the cameras.

SPEAKER_04 8:43

Exactly.

SPEAKER_01 8:44

But they were telling me, no, daddy, we it's a new day now. It's all about this content, it's all about jumping in front of the camera. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 8:52

But a lot of a lot of players, a lot of players though, still afraid of that camera though. They don't want to be in that camera.

SPEAKER_01 8:59

I'm spooked right now.

SPEAKER_03 9:01

You the lonely one. I'm a lonely one.

SPEAKER_01 9:11

I'm just I'm just keeping it all the way tall. You know, there's old habits hard to break. Yeah. You know, we're used to living a certain kind of way, you know, since you was like 15 years old.

SPEAKER_02 9:21

I feel what you're saying now. I feel I definitely feel like it's like.

SPEAKER_01 9:23

It's gonna take some, it's gonna take some getting used to. Yeah, yeah. Old habits hard to break, and a lot of things don't die. Yeah. But get all around that. She said, Daddy, just try. So I just start making stuff, making stuff, make it on YouTube, and my son tells me, say, Daddy, um, our generation, our attention span is real, real short. You know, you can't make those videos that long. Long, yeah. Shorten them up. You know, I'm learning all this from my kids. They know, they know though. They know. They know, they know. They know. Yep. So I'm making, I'm making, and I'm just, ain't nobody liking it. So I'm like, nah, daddy, it's gonna take, you're gonna take it, go take a minute. Yeah. Yeah, you ain't finna just hop out there and and and and and and you know, get to 2,000 likes. Hey, dad, you gotta just stay. It's the process.

SPEAKER_04 10:09

It's the process you gotta go through.

SPEAKER_01 10:11

Exactly, exactly. So, I mean, but to make a long story short, you know, my kids inquiring about, you know, my before life, they the one told me, go ahead, daddy, we think we need to do this. Let us know how y'all really live, because we don't know. Bridge that gap. And I just started doing it, I started doing it.

SPEAKER_02 10:31

And here we are today. But but you know, when you not that when you said you you you you feel funny about that camera. I used to feel funny about that camera too. You know, in 2016, when my son told me, do this here, yeah, this Papa Zoe, you know, show thing. Yeah, that's when, you know, I like, I like, man, I ain't got no charge. I ain't doing that to whoop the whoop no more. So you know, fuck it. Yeah, you feel me? I'm clean, I done did what I had to do, whatever that. So that's when, you know what I'm saying, I got out there, I stopped, you know what I'm saying, and I stopped doing the show, and then here go the show right now, damn 2026.

SPEAKER_01 11:06

And let me say right quick, I I know we talked last year, yeah, and I was like, okay, yeah, pop, we definitely go do it. But you know, I you know we work on God's timing. Yeah, exactly. But I know it's kind of hard for us to link, but a lot of people be hollering at me. I was like, nah, oh the Papa Zoe first. Right, right. Because, you know, truth be told, y'all was the first one to reach out to me. Yeah. Before everybody. Yeah. And once you put that post up, everybody started hitting me. Yeah, yeah. But like I told my daughter, nah, Pop gotta go first. I ain't never sit down with nobody.

SPEAKER_02 11:44

And you know, you were patient because last time you was down here, who was ready to do it. Yeah, and then my my my my video, you know, I'm gonna say my you know, director was sick. And I was right up the street.

SPEAKER_01 11:54

Yeah, I'll read up the street.

SPEAKER_02 11:56

And he wanted to do it too. He went, let's go, let's do it. Let's go, let's do it, let's do it.

SPEAKER_01 12:00

Yeah, but that her job hurt, she sent her job saying, No, we don't want to get you sick. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, so I yeah. So I was like, everything happened for a reason. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But then I was like, okay, it's it's no time like the press. And I let I let everybody come on and get their shine. I was like, yeah, I'm here. I'm holler at pop. I think we need to do this.

SPEAKER_02 12:18

Yeah, yeah. I I had to do it, I had to make it happen.

SPEAKER_01 12:21

But I gotta, I gotta, I gotta tip my hat off to you because you know you were like, I want you on the show. This, that, and the third. You gave him the alley oop when you posted it. Yeah, the DMs went crazy. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 12:34

So I appreciate that. Well, you know what though? I'm gonna tell you, right? When I when I when I seen, I seen it, right? And I'm like, I seen you when I first, you know what I'm saying? I said, yeah. And you when the thing you were saying, it's like memories. You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? Remind me when I had my box Chevy, you know what I'm saying, and all that. I'm like, damn.

SPEAKER_01 12:56

30s and lows. You know what I'm saying? 30s and lows, a mouthful of gold. Oh, you're taking it back.

SPEAKER_02 13:00

You feel me? So I'm like, damn. I said, man, you gotta come to. You feel what I'm saying? And you were calling out these names. I'm like, damn, these.

SPEAKER_01 13:07

Yeah, it ain't, you know what I'm saying? I saw it was a it was a void. When it came to the crib, yeah, everybody with a voice, and I wanna I wanna definitely, you know, give my comrades a salute. Like Pac-Jam 305.

SPEAKER_02 13:22

Pac Jam 305, yeah, my nigga.

SPEAKER_01 13:24

Miami Stadium. Yeah, yeah. My big homie Disco Rick. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 13:29

305 with 305 Miami, I think is another one, 305 Miami.

SPEAKER_01 13:32

And 305 Miami. All of us, we, you know, we in different lanes, but all of us we got a common cause. You know, I'm just trying to just, you know, put a light on a crib that's been dim for decades. Yeah. Especially since this social media and all this stuff hit. Ain't nobody, ain't nobody really talking about the crib. And those who got a voice, they ain't really saying it. It's like they want to say it, but for sake of a relationship, go ahead, Walk, my bad.

SPEAKER_04 13:59

Yeah, no, no, you're right. They they're like the what the ones that got a voice, it's it's it's more trying to on entertainment level instead of just like, man, that's that's give the people what the crib was. Whatever, man. Don't try to sell the crib, you know what I'm saying? Give us what's Miami, you know what I mean? Like for my son. We moved to Atlanta, so he wants to dad. Like this, I mean, I can relate so much to the dog, because he does the same thing my son be saying. You know, he's like, Yeah, he's like, Dad, I didn't know. He'll hear something from somebody else. He's like, I didn't know, you know. So now I'm opening up to him, but that's just how opening up to the crib, to to everybody that's been down here. You know what I'm saying? And living this new generation, they need to know like what Miami really was all about. And the and and like our city is not this particular type of city. Exactly. Our city was was a genuine city that expressed a lot of love, too, man.

SPEAKER_02 14:55

The thing that's bad about it though, the thing that hurts though, it's going away. Yeah. It's going away, man. I'm I'm I'm I'm matter of fact, not to cut you off. I'm I'm I'm me, me and me, and me and me and the wife, right? We we we go in the chef creole the other day, right? I think it was Saturday. Yeah, Saturday, right? And then every time I ride down, I be like, damn, everything different. And I I always ride ride by my old house. Yeah. So yeah, I'm tired of you showing me that old house on 57. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? You know, when I was a shorty. Yeah. On 57 off of no mommy out, you know? So, you know what I'm saying? But then we looking around, it's like, you know, you know, the white folks just walking like back then there wasn't no such thing like that. We're just all over the spot.

SPEAKER_01 15:45

Now, at one point, you know, before back in the 60s and 70s, we were the minority.

SPEAKER_02 15:52

Minority. And then we came, took over. Because I remember, I remember what not because I remember in 72 when I came here. I remember my my all my neighbors was was was white.

SPEAKER_01 16:00

Exactly. My point exactly. My point exactly. Now it done. When my old girl brought their house in 76, she tell me every day, yeah man, I pay, we paid 40,000 for the house right there in Shut Along, right off 2nd Avenue. It was only one white family living next door to us. And that was the last one. They were trying to hold on, hold on. After a couple of years, they started dying off in the house, and the kids came and just got them. And then they just all black. Now it's like the reverse thing. Now we back being a minority because all of them came back. On all girl street, man, they got million-dollar houses right there in the right. Million-dollar houses. So I was like, yeah, we, you know, next thing you know, you know, the whole landscape. They done gave the crib a whole facelift. So how my jets, how your kids, how they gonna know how it used to be. So I was like, nah, man, let me go ahead and and and and talk that old Miami. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I had to. And actually I came up with the with that when I was up in New York. I started sliding back to New York last year, seeing somebody that got at me, yeah, man, yada yada, yada, you remember me? Nah, not really, I'm old now. Yeah, yeah, come up here and see me. So I started sliding back, me and her been chilling. And one day I'm just picking up from working. I'm scrolling through, I'm scrolling through. Like, you know, I always tap in with you. And everything about Atlanta, New York, LA, Chicago, Detroit. And I was like, man, why ain't nobody talking about the crew? I done been all around the world. Everywhere I done been, everybody say, I gotta go to Miami. I gotta go to Miami.

SPEAKER_02 17:42

I gotta go to South Beach. I gotta this and that. Exactly, exactly.

SPEAKER_01 17:45

And nowadays, it's three spots that the crew everybody wanted to come to. 15th Avenue, the Rolex and USA Flea Market back in the 80s in the 90s. Everybody, yeah, yeah. My my my friends in California, all my Detroit players. Yeah, you know, man, we gotta Cap City Market too, though.

SPEAKER_02 18:02

Camp City. I was a Camp City zone too when I left maybe I go to C C but as I got older, I moved to Kamp City.

SPEAKER_01 18:16

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 18:16

When I was out there in that world, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 18:19

Yeah, but yeah, we going back then. We we going back. So that's all they wanted. Oh yeah, yeah. So I'm I I take it all the way back with all because all of us, we kind of back then, like I say, we shared a common cause. We was trying to just get to it, but a lot of them they can't talk now. So I want to be the voice for the voice. I feel you, I feel you. I respect that. I respect that. Where the name Heavy Lace come from, though?

SPEAKER_02 18:42

What I what I how you got that name? Oh boy. Oh. No, Heavy Lace.

SPEAKER_01 18:47

Let me say I'm gonna admit this. Let me see how I'm gonna go around this. Uh huh. All right, well, talk to me. I know this show is worldwide. Papa Zoe show go everywhere. It's facts, facts. Let me go ahead and so in New York they got they smoke rules.

unknown 19:01

Right.

SPEAKER_02 19:01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 19:02

You know, out west they smoke wet. But coming up in the 80s, all my guys and the guys that I looked up to, all of them, they smoke heavy lace. Yeah. Which is, you know, weed. And with that, with that, yeah. Yeah. You know, mixed with that white. So back then, that was like, you know, the thing to do. That was the you know, the drug of choice. You know, even you know, guys that was getting all types of bread, yeah, and they don't think they certainly do.

SPEAKER_02 19:30

Yeah, so but as long as you want bulky, well, that bump, bump, bump, bump.

SPEAKER_01 19:34

Yeah, as long as you want smoking bunk and choppers and you know, us, choppers to us back in our day, choppers is when, you know, you put the crack in new points. Yeah, right, right, right. So I'm I'm taking it back. Yeah, yeah. So, you know, but heavy lace is was, you know, the thing of choice for all OG that was older than me. So when we took our show on the road in 1989, instead of, you know, okay, the Miami boys, they they on the set. But then I just went ahead and said, nah, yeah, we we heavy lace. It don't get no better than that. We we heavy lace. And the crew, we just ran with it. So everywhere we went, oh, them heavy, the Miami boy, them heavy lace, they in the in the building. Yeah, yeah. And they know how we was coming, like, like 40 and 50 deep. I don't want to get too much away. The book goes at all. Oh, you got oh, you got a book coming. Oh yeah, oh yeah. Yeah. The book coming. But to answer your question, heavy lace is is, you know, I you know, just took that name from the crib. Yeah. We took our show on the road, and everybody from the crib, you know, they were smoking lace, and that name just stuck with us. So I was like, okay, well, let me go ahead and, you know, go ahead and cop the name, put the L C behind it, and do all that and run with it. And it's been sticking with sticking with us since like 1989, because that's when we first left the crib.

SPEAKER_02 20:52

So, so your so your daughter really the one that made you realize or did you not without a doubt, that you got a gift for storytelling, or did you just when I when I started, she was saying, Daddy, keep going, daddy keep going.

SPEAKER_01 21:12

Because right now, you know, we look on YouTube, we look on social media, yeah. Everything's like, it's just like it happened overnight. Right. But she was like, Daddy, just just keep going. She was like, Daddy, you just gotta keep going, just keep trying. How I knew I had it is when I dropped my story about um my little friend named Ganu.

SPEAKER_02 21:32

Yeah, Ganu, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 21:33

Yeah, Chubb.

SPEAKER_02 21:34

Yeah, Ganu, Ganu, and all that. Yeah, that was my little friend right there.

SPEAKER_01 21:37

So when I dropped the story, yeah. I seen that.

SPEAKER_02 21:40

I was like, damn, that I caught that too.

SPEAKER_01 21:42

Yeah, yeah. That was that was my little home. Like I said, he kind of he he saved my life at at Caesar Barbershop. Yeah. So when I dropped it, my main man right there, he called me. He was like, Boy, you got one. Because he's like the pound, much love to the pound. Yeah, yeah. You know, them my comrades. Shut the line later. But I was like, nah, let me go ahead. I don't want to really encroach on them because they got that whole movement. They got it on lock. And I was like, nah, but let me take it back back. And I told the story how you know I went up in Caesar Barbie Shop right there, like on 61st and 2nd Avenue. And I'm, you know, I look young and I just imagine how we're looking back in the days. And I go in there and I'm in there. I'm just waiting on Caesar. You know, back then, you couldn't put an order in on the phone. You had to take a little slip off, slip off the thing. So I'm like next in line, and the pound coming out. I am with the big motors. When I look out the window, they got all those old flags, all in the big Chevy. You know, I'm in my habitat. I'm in shuttle line, I'm good. So they fall in there. They like they like 25, 30 D. So one of them dudes coming and sit right next to me. So mind you, I'm looking like money. You know, I got a I got a big thing outside. Sitting like back then, like 16 and 17. I'm sitting on some of the rentals out there. Yeah, yeah. I'm looking like money. You can't go around it. Right, right, right. We're talking about the pound. So the pound comes, the buddy sit next to me, say, What's up, dog? What number you got? So I said, Well I'm next. Buddy tell me, man, I ain't asking that. Actually, what number? Um, what number you had? So when he say that, all his comrades, they they stood up. You know, because he said it like with a little authority. I'm looking like money now. Yeah, but you know, they ain't, I don't think they they they nothing, they ain't they ain't they ain't you know they ain't starting that. So when he said that, now I gotta sit up. I'm strapped, but I'm strapped out in the car. Cause I'm in my neighborhood. I ain't got no mind, my face good. I ain't got no next thing I know, I see somebody coming through the crowd. And we walking through the crowd, the whole crowd just split up. Inside the barbershop. Inside the barbershop. Caesar. Caesar is cutting out here and run by nothing. Cause he just cutting out. This ain't nothing for Caesar. Yeah. So when buddy comes through the cut, the whole crowd just split. So I'm locked in on Buddy right here, who so the boy, the buddy that came through the cut, he called my name. Or him call my name, but I'm I'm just I'm I'm in I'm in a situation. I can't jump on the phone. Ain't like we can text me and had no text. We was about to flip motor rolling. Yeah. And Buddy called my name. So when he said that, I looked at him, but I didn't recognize him. And then he called my whole government name. And I looked, he said, this guy knew. And I look at him, got big. Gave me a hug, gave me a dab. And he told Buddy right there, he said something creole. Or whatever he said. Buddy stood down. He said, Boy, I heard about you, K. O. G. Yada yada yada, man. Give me your beeper number, woo woo woo. He said, He told them, nah, this is nah. Something creole, in other words, nah, we ain't gonna do this.

SPEAKER_02 25:06

Yeah, this, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Got new, got new, them two brothers. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Jack, God knew all of them.

SPEAKER_01 25:12

So when he said that, he gave me a hug. I said, God, I know I'm gonna pay for all y'all haircuts. He said, nah, care, you ain't gonna do that. I said, nah, dog, I'm gonna pay for all y'all haircuts. I'm good. I told Caesar, Caesar, pay for all of them. And I say, John, I'm gonna holla at you, dog. And I got in the car and I slid off. That's why I called my dog. Like, yeah, man, damn the pound, woo-woo. He was like, Yeah, boy, I'm glad God knew it was there. Yeah, because God knew when there it would have got ugly. So I went ahead and dropped that on YouTube and it hit. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. And God knew his girlfriend at the time when he passed, uh huh. She called me about four months ago. She said, Man, I've been trying to get with you for like two years. She said, Man, thanks for doing that. So nobody talk about him. Yeah, that's true. But much love to Matazo. Happy and and everybody. He was a quiet one though. He was a quiet one. Yeah. Nobody talked about him. Yeah, that's true. So it'd be it'd be conversations like that that let me know that that I'm on a song. That I'm on a song. But when that video hit, that's the I took off from now. That's what's up. I took off from now.

SPEAKER_02 26:19

Well, keep doing what you do. I was just I was just with when that went where we jumped with John. Last weekend was with John.

SPEAKER_01 26:29

Shout out to John and Kenny K. Kenny K. Shout out to them guys over there at the bankers. They doing big things over there.

SPEAKER_02 26:37

Definitely doing their thing. Where do you see it going? And where do you want it to go?

SPEAKER_01 26:46

I wanted to go into I wanted to take off and I want to start doing I want to start doing skits. But not funny skits. I want to really start painting a picture of the old Miami. Because, you know, a lot of people, thanks to you, a lot of people they call me. Man, we want you to come over here and sit down with us. We want to talk about things. Because, you know, we really don't know and we don't know how it was. And we got this idea, we got that idea. And, you know, I just let them know, okay, yeah, we'll we'll get together. Because I felt like I owed it to you to come to the city. Yeah, I appreciate that. I appreciate that. But I wanted to go into, you know, the book gonna be a monster, but from the book, I really want to start um doing skits before they, before the whole city vanish.

SPEAKER_02 27:34

Right. Damn.

SPEAKER_01 27:35

Yeah, they don't throw down the beans. The Scots been gone. Gone. Yeah. You know, we still got the graveyard, but that gotta face lip. Logemont still back there, but that got a face left. The village been gone. So it's like, it ain't nothing. We gotta preserve something. Something. So I really want to start doing skits and start showing. The graveyard is gonna be gone too. The graveyard is gonna be gone in a minute.

SPEAKER_02 27:56

Because the way you look at it, the way you look at it, it's like Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 27:58

Windwood gone. Thank God, Edison Project still over there. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You get what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah. The sub, they done tow down the high tops, the low tops, the diamonds. They done tow all that down. So when I talk about people like my guy Pratt, when I talk about Pratt and all them guys out of the sub, I try to reserve something because they they giving up the sub a whole face left.

SPEAKER_04 28:18

Yeah. The whole face.

SPEAKER_01 28:20

So I want to start doing skits and who knows, man. It may turn into movies. They turn into something. Oh, we're gonna turn into something. Turn into something.

SPEAKER_02 28:27

Sheer skits. Like you ain't doing none of that funny skits and all that. No, no, no. You're doing serious about the old Miami. I'm not a funny guy. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 28:34

Yeah, I'm not a funny guy. I want to show them like the old Miami truth, how it was. And, you know, I want everybody to know it's it's a lesson in every message.

SPEAKER_04 28:44

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 28:45

It gotta be a lesson every message, you know, to let these, to let this generation know. You know, lightning don't strike, lightning don't strike twice with a bottle. And you cannot erase history, but you can't rewrite history. You know, what we did, you know, you it can never be done again. It can never be done again.

SPEAKER_02 29:01

Can't never be done. You know, I you know, I I mean, I was ride, you know, I was riding through, right? I'm riding through, I'm looking at 15. I'm like, what the hell? Yeah. I'm like, this this is this, they got a building, the big high-rise building, whatever in that corner. Yeah, yeah. Thank goodness that uh miracle's still there. You know, it's that uh uh uh shot to Gloria. You know what I'm saying? Gloria, that's my home girl. The cunk, the cunk spot. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. I'm like, man, it's like everything gone, man.

SPEAKER_01 29:35

And I want, I want my kids and and your kids, well, I want them to know, you know, how it was. It's kind of hard to visualize it if everything's gone. All the stoves all up, all the A rounds all up and down 6'2. I rolled through that yesterday for the first time in a minute, and they building, they got veterinarians over there. It's like, wow, African Square Park totally gone. Yeah, gone. So it's like that's what I remember. That's the old Miami I remember.

unknown 30:02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 30:02

So I'm going, I want to keep stamping that, you know, until and letting them know, man, you you can't take that away. The memory's there. So I see it as really, really, you know, breaking the glass ceiling and and going to new heights.

SPEAKER_04 30:15

Yeah, I mean, that's pretty that's pretty much what you're doing. And and I think a lot of people was was thinking, like even me. I had to come out, share the same thing he on, that's what I'm on. You see, right, right, right, right. But it's like it still was challenging, like, man, like we know how we've grown up, man. We gonna we're gonna talk, you gonna get them with cameras, yeah. Then there's certain stuff he kind of can't really put it out. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You gotta wait around it.

SPEAKER_02 30:39

Some niggas be joining, though, I'll be like, this nigga crazy.

SPEAKER_04 30:43

But then you get, then you, but you see what see another thing too, man, is reading, man. Yeah, yeah. When you when you when you read autobiography of other people, you know what I'm saying, you start, you get a little bit comfortable. You know what I'm saying? Like, okay, this is this is how I can do this here. You know what I'm saying? Because if you just say, all right, I'll finish this, I'm gonna do this here, this like this, here, it you might be all over the place. Yeah, you know, with with reading, and when I say reading, like research, that's a form of research in the case. Exactly. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_01 31:12

It's more organic, it's more organic. You can just read it and and and you know, like I say, reading is fundamental. You know, these days is all about clicks and this, that, and a third all day long on your phone. But you know, our era, we actually we read, we had libraries we can go to and and check out books. You know, that'll never go away. You get what I'm saying? But this era is just all about just instant, instant gratification. Exactly. You know, but I'm I'm just cut from, you know, I'm just telemet from a different fabric. You know, I'm I'm old school with it, old Miami. What high school you went to? Edison Senior. Oh, Haiti High.

SPEAKER_02 31:47

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 31:49

Shetalon, Edison Middle, and Edison Sr. All day long.

SPEAKER_00 31:54

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 31:55

A lot, a lot, a lot of people come from Burt, convertible Burke. Burt from Edison. Before he went before you got to Edison. Yeah, from the big money signing before he went to the web. Yeah, right there. Uh uh, dog, yeah. Logma out of the diamond, all of them. That's a lot of people came from Edison.

SPEAKER_04 32:14

I imagine all the hat was putting them stories out. Even when the even matter of fact, when Duchess was here, remember when she did the book out and the people she would talk about, yeah, that was that was our age, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. And and she put it out there, you feel me? Then a couple of the books on Main Man put out there, Ross. He got some books out there.

SPEAKER_02 32:35

Shout out to Rose. Shout out to Rosie Ross talk about getting that bread though.

SPEAKER_04 32:39

But he's putting it in his book. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He's he's nah, it's some stuff he still put out there. Yeah, he still put out there. That's what K talking about, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. It ain't if you could, if you could say 20 people on did what he's doing, then ma'am, he would still be pumping. Yeah. All day long. But it's like it's only like a handful.

SPEAKER_01 32:59

A handful. Not even that. Two or three. And that's what got me, you know. I think about New York, all the boroughs up there. And you got everybody in front of BX, you know, Queens, Brooklyn, Staten Island, Harlem. You got a hundred dudes out of all those boroughs, you know, putting it down for their borough.

SPEAKER_02 33:17

It's different, man. They're different in New York, dog. They're different.

SPEAKER_01 33:20

It's different. I gotta, yeah. But I I know, I, you know, by me being in New York, I know that they they they they love the crib. Back then, they love the crib. Oh, yeah, oh yeah. Hell yeah, yeah. Hell yeah. All that Statue of Liberty and all that. Yeah, yeah. I'm glad I'm on the Papa Zoe show. Yeah. Listen, man, they love us. Yeah, yeah. Everybody go, every borough we go to up there, it's like we're different when we walk in the building.

unknown 33:47

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 33:47

And I want this, I want this era like to see that. We was trendsetters back in the 80s and the 90s.

SPEAKER_04 33:53

Exactly.

SPEAKER_01 33:54

And I am just talking from the uh a street aspect, yeah. Everybody wants to come here all the time. You may want to go to New York City and shop. Uh, one time you want you you may not go back a couple of years. Every year, people want to come to the previous year.

SPEAKER_02 34:06

They want to come on weekend, they want to come to this, that, all that. You know what I'm saying? All type of stuff.

SPEAKER_01 34:12

So, what happened to that? What happened to that or what happened to that? Exactly. So, like, okay, maybe if I go ahead and start doing this, maybe I got 10, 20 more dudes behind me and start talking about, you know, Richmond Heights, dudes, P. Ryan, then dudes out of CC. You get what I'm saying? Out of every area, we gotta mount up and and and and make it happen.

SPEAKER_04 34:32

You bought me up for Cass City. You you see what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_01 34:38

Rest a piece of Fat Wayne, man. Rest a piece of fat wine. Yeah, yeah, man.

SPEAKER_02 34:42

We were supposed to, yeah, you mean we're just talking to man about a week before about coming on the show, bringing some of his food. I was ready to eat some of that food, true.

SPEAKER_01 34:52

We need that. We needed that. We needed that. It's just too many too many stories. There's too many stories down here for not to be told and not to be, you know, brought to the forefront. That that's that's and every every story them New York those talk about, at the end of the story, they say, yeah, man, we we had to come to the crib, we had to come down to Miami to eat. Miami always go be in the equation. Always. That's a fact. That's a fact. Always.

SPEAKER_02 35:19

And then the thing too, the thing too that we the only, we the only we the only players that could go anywhere and put down. Anywhere. Anywhere and put down. They can't come down there and put down no son.

SPEAKER_01 35:33

Nobody can't.

SPEAKER_04 35:36

It ain't never been like that. So maybe imagine a dude from Detroit. Come down here, want to come down and make it wrong.

SPEAKER_01 35:47

It ain't gonna happen. I don't know. I don't know what kind of picture the um the what kind of narrative narrative the internet pushing down. Like like Miami is like we we we easy, like we we we friendly. Yeah, y'all come on down, you know, party, have a good time, and then y'all gotta, you know, get somewhere. We ain't never been that, never been come down here to to put down and get money, but we go everywhere.

SPEAKER_02 36:10

Put down and get money. Everywhere.

SPEAKER_01 36:11

Any city, spin it globe and stop it. Yeah, we there. And I ain't talking, I ain't just saying it's on the sideline.

SPEAKER_02 36:18

I don't know. That was the good, that was them good old, that was them good old days.

SPEAKER_00 36:21

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 36:22

Well, that was them good old days. Yeah, they used to treat a nigga like I was a star. Just roll out the red carpet. Like I was a star and shit. I'm like, damn, we we might be. What's up, Miami? What's up, Miami?

SPEAKER_01 36:35

What the fuck? Anyway, you know, I just want to show, I just want to show you I just want to show this generation, you know, we were the trans sellers, there, but the whole world. Yeah, and the whole, they wanted to follow us, they wanted to follow us, be like us, and and and and be like us. Yeah, you know, so yeah, that's all I want to do. Yeah, man.

SPEAKER_02 36:52

Hey man. I appreciate you, man, for coming through on the show for for just make sure that it, you know what I'm saying? It was this was the first place you stopped. First place. You feel what I'm saying? And then we've been this like the third, this what this is the third try?

SPEAKER_01 37:08

Yes, yes. Three times a charm.

SPEAKER_04 37:11

Third time is a charm. You know what I'm saying? You know what it is.

SPEAKER_01 37:14

All y'all videos, I lock in, I like them, and I'll be like, damn, wow, that must have been me sitting down talking to me. But I know we was on, I know we was on God's time.

SPEAKER_02 37:23

Yeah, God's time, man. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Why say you kick me with a bag? I don't know what it is, man. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 37:30

Yeah, the mother girl always taught me when you're coming to somebody's house, you gotta get back.

SPEAKER_02 37:35

I ain't trying to be nosy or nothing. But I see a bag, nigga, I'm like, what's going on? What's in the bag?

SPEAKER_01 37:41

Uh uh, like I say, you know, the old girl and the old boy always tell me when you come in somebody's house, you gotta, you know, you gotta bring gifts. So okay, okay, okay, okay.

SPEAKER_04 37:53

Oh my god, the business.

SPEAKER_02 37:55

Oh, yeah. Well, hey, hey, hey, what you watching over there? You watching your eyes. What you mean?

SPEAKER_03 38:04

I'm looking at it, I'm looking at the club, man.

SPEAKER_02 38:11

You wouldn't let me have it. Let me put this down, man. We you know, you really, man. Shut up, man.

SPEAKER_04 38:18

I'm just live with heavy lace, man. We're gonna need that right now, man. Let me ask, I want to ask this question. What do you think the uh the little young folks right now need to hear from experienced people like you, man? That's that's that's that's been there, done that. What the what the young generation need to hear, man?

SPEAKER_01 38:36

They need to hear when we tell them. It may sound cliche, uh-huh, but you really gotta stay in school. You gotta stay in school. You gotta stay in school because the picture I try to paint for them, it's nothing like that no more. It's it's nothing in the streets. As they can see, the regeneration is everywhere. You will. Yeah. So stay in school. That's number one. That's that's first first and foremost, you put God first. Yeah, of course. That's off rip. Stay in school. You gotta stay in school. If you got a talent, if you like to play football, any sports, musician, whatever, put that third. God, school, and then and and put your niche, whatever kind of niche you got, yeah. Concentrate on that. Because outside, it's nothing. They they they baptizing us by thousands. They ain't playing. They ain't playing. When you see me, when I talk like I say, pop and walk, it's it's a lesson in my messages. When people call me and say, Man, you always having on Miami stuff. Yeah. I ain't finna wear nothing else. This all Miami. I'm not finna dress like the young guys with the hoodies and all that there. Man, there's a thousand degrees out there. You you go faint, and then you're walking, you know, you're recipe to go to jail. They ain't not playing. Stay in school. Work on your craft, whatever your craft is. I don't care what it is, stay consistent. But you get at the end of the day, if all fails, you got a diploma, you got a degree. You gotta, you gotta stick to what you know, man. That that that's real talk. I'm not one of the old guys that's repping a gang, and and and nah, if they go, if they're listening to me, I don't, it's a it's a lesson in everything I say, man.

SPEAKER_04 40:22

You know, they'll last, they'll last out here. It won't be temporary. Listening to somebody else repping the streets. Good stuff, man. Good stuff.

SPEAKER_01 40:29

I'm not, I'm not go, I'm not, and pop, you, you here, you here to motivate the people.

SPEAKER_02 40:33

Yeah, that's it. So positivity, that's what I'm on.

SPEAKER_01 40:38

Exactly, exactly. So, so I'm I'm I'm I'm following you. I'm following the disco ricks and the big money signs and the pack jam 305. You know, all us got a common cause. We here to motivate the people. It's nothing out there. When I say it's nothing, because we took it all back in the 80s and the 90s. It ain't nothing out there no more, Pop.

SPEAKER_02 40:56

That's facts. That's beautiful. That's facts, man.

SPEAKER_01 40:59

Seriously, seriously.

SPEAKER_02 41:00

Facts. Hey, man. Lace, man, I appreciate you for coming too on the show, man. Always. Hey, hey, hey, you know what? I'm I'ma say it like this. Whenever you end, whenever you you you come you come back to the crib, all you gotta do is hit me up. What's up, boys? You got going on? Come on, through, come tell some stories, nigga. Uh you know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_01 41:21

I got a thousand hours.

SPEAKER_02 41:29

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 41:30

And really wants to book it.

SPEAKER_02 41:34

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 41:35

That he can have cigars with you.

SPEAKER_02 41:36

That's how we do it. Oh man. But we gotta, we got, I got a show coming up. We're gonna start doing called Okay. Call Cigars, you know, cigars and and and drinks. Oh, I'm on that. You feel me? So we're talking about just yeah, yeah. Okay, okay. Yeah, we gonna, we're gonna we're gonna we're working that out. Moon, yeah, moon, yeah, moon, yes, yes, yeah. Cigars and moonshine. Okay, okay. That's because you know, moonshine is up there and that's what's on the body tennis. That's all they do is make moonshine. So that we we work we waiting for you know for everything to come together, but uh definitely, whenever you and town, you definitely we definitely gonna do that. You know what I'm saying? I do that at the crib. I feel like I'm gonna do it. So it's all love, man. But appreciate you, man. Appreciate the gift. I know Walk the Walk can't wait. What the walk go ahead, man, go ahead and open it up, though.

SPEAKER_01 42:25

Open it up, though, what the walk and we're doing while walk looking at gifts, get your gifts out of that wall. I want to let the world know. Yeah, they're gonna go ahead and get at me on Instagram at Heavy Lace and they can tables, tents, and chairs, all your outdoor activities. I I I I got them covered on that. The book coming soon.

SPEAKER_04 42:42

Yeah, definitely.

SPEAKER_03 42:43

I'm I'm I'm gonna be the first person being what you still looking for, nigga.

SPEAKER_01 42:48

No, I'm just I'm just open that up right there, wall, open that up wall, open this up, yeah, open it up, open it up.

SPEAKER_02 43:12

Give me that bag, man. Give me that bag, give me that bag.

SPEAKER_03 43:18

Come on, man.

SPEAKER_04 43:21

We here with the heavy lace, man. Look at the heavy lace doing, man. The main camera presenting us some gifts. Appreciate the gifts. Come on, we got more stuff in here.

SPEAKER_03 43:29

You wanna you wanna you wanna start making some of the stuff out? Give me the bag, man. Give me the bag. Well, I'm I'm once you finish the bag. I'm on the on the I'm on the bag, too. I'm on the bag.

SPEAKER_02 43:43

Oh, you're coming to the show, man. You know what it is, I'm gonna love over here, man.