DANIELLE MARIE

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SPEAKER_01 0:27

Yo, what up, what up, what up, what up? You already know it is, man. It's your man, man, Papa Zoe to Papa Zoe Show. My co-host. Walk the walk, baby. Walk the walk. You already know. That's what it is.

SPEAKER_04 0:38

Hey, Zoe.

SPEAKER_01 0:39

Yes up. What that is.

SPEAKER_04 0:40

We got over there in the cup, man.

SPEAKER_01 0:42

And that's none other but Danielle Marie. Ooh. Welcome to the show.

SPEAKER_06 0:48

Good to have you. Good to be here.

SPEAKER_01 0:50

Before we take off, you know you gotta pop your bottle. Or we're gonna do that B and B mix.

SPEAKER_06 0:56

Bright. Mom had this for the first time last week. She loved it.

SPEAKER_07 1:08

Rose.

SPEAKER_04 1:14

Danielle Marie. For anybody that's meeting you for the first time. Let everybody know who you are and what sparked your passion for music.

SPEAKER_06 1:25

Yeah, um, that's a good question. So I am from New Jersey. I was born in New Jersey, raised in New Jersey, um, went to Temple for school, so shout out to TU. I went to Philly.

SPEAKER_01 1:36

Temple University.

SPEAKER_06 1:37

Temple University, stayed out there for five years or so, and then um, you know, went back to New Jersey for a bit, shot down to Atlanta, back to New Jersey, and then from New Jersey straight to Miami. So I've been all over the place for a while. Um so you know, my mom raised me single parent. Uh my dad had four siblings, so they all are out here in Florida. My dad's family uh is all in Florida. He passed away in 2016. Um so that's when I originally uh found out about this place called Florida, because I've been coming out here forever since I was a kid. But uh respectfully, I was like, I got I want to be close to family. Okay, but I don't want to be that close to family because I'm Puerto Rican. Everyone got keys to everybody's house. Right. I don't like popping. So I was like, I'm gonna go to Miami. Um, but you know, my dad was a big DJ in the 80s. So I think the musical side comes from him. Okay. I'll be a big DJ in the 80s, run around New York City. Um, so all that came into play. He's always been my number one fan. Uh so I, you know, pushed it. I like I think we talked before, I have like only child syndrome, right? So my mom was a single parent, she worked a lot. And uh, so when she'd be like, stay in the house, lock the doors, I'll be home later because she had to go to work. I'd be in my room, just like pretending to have my own concert, you know, or make-believe friends, and then lo and behold, you know, I was just good on computers. So my grandmother um, you know, got me a computer, and uh then I discovered I'm taking you back a little bit, LimeWire, Napster, and I'm like, oh, what's this guy? And then um, you know, before the Pro Tools, uh Sony Acid Pro, I said, Oh, so I can like take my ideas, download this beat, and make it come to life. So I started that way, just playing around, writing poetry, um, and really found myself lost in my own world. And and it was like a safe place to pass a lot of time while my mom was at work. Um and that kind of manifested into being in a rap group in high school and uh being the only girl in that rap group and doing talent shows and winning to uh you know going to college and being at Temple, we had recording studios on campus. So, you know, that was like working with uh Brian at the time and um and then getting uh you know getting a chance to meet Ape Gank who runs with Meek and them because they worked out at the gym I worked at and kind of getting that influence from them. Um and then young Chris was running around at the time and just kind of getting that Philly vibe because I was from I'm from the suburbs, so when I went out to North Philly, I was like, oh shit, like you know what I mean? Like, what is this? What's that? Yeah, it's different. It was different. So my mom was one of those parents that like never let me leave the block. So like a little like our little co I was very sheltered. Yeah, and then you know, and I was shelter, so my writing was all sheltered writing. So when I got out to the city, I'm like, oh shit, like I like it. It's bouncy out here, you know. So you get into a lot of stuff, you know. You live, you learn. So all my friends, they weren't college students. I was hanging out with the best of them, you know. I was 16th, I lived on 16th in Susquehanna. My friends were on Dolphin and Bancroft Street, and uh, you know, if you're from Philly, you know exactly what I'm talking about. And uh, so I definitely wasn't on campus at the time, uh, you know, and just um just ended up being around a bunch of guys that you know really uh believed in what I did and pushed me and uh and pushed me in a place it was like it was safe, you know, because you gotta be careful who you hang out with. And uh, you know, I just paid attention, kept my mouth closed, and just kept it kept it moving. And then um, you know, that just kind of led into me doing an internship at Bell Records in Brooklyn um and learning about um really respecting like production, right? So really respecting the mix and really respecting the masters and the people behind it, uh, and realizing like this is a whole this is a whole situation.

SPEAKER_01 5:00

So so so you you you so you so you really you pretty much know about this music thing.

SPEAKER_06 5:05

Yeah, yeah, for sure. Um, you know, respecting that mix and uh just watching people do what they do, um, and uh just meeting some interesting people along the way in the studio and going, wow, I really, really like this. I I I really, really like like this business. Right, right, right, right, right. And then I realized, like, hey, um, I think I want to write a Christmas jingle. That's where the money's at. Like, you know what I mean? So really getting on getting the ideas of like it's not just about, especially today, like going viral and making that that song that's gonna hit for like a second. Right. For me, it's about making that song that's gonna hit over and over and over again. You know what I mean? That song we talked about, it's like that song that's gonna give you lasting memories no matter where you are, you know? Right, right, right, right. And so it's and really just understanding that, but uh also being a business person myself, I was really curious to see how it worked, how royalties worked, you know, how much this cost, how much that cost. Um, and so I've always been uh curious about the whole the whole industry itself. So I asked a lot of questions and I was like a sponge, and you know, I took a lot of notes and now now we're here because I've always had I've loved, always loved sound and I've always loved writing. Um so I can hear a and I'm like, and I'll be like, so turn that up and be like, what? Try this and try that and then do this, and you're like, that's crazy. Next thing you know, I got a song like jungle. You know what I mean? So it's you know, it's just like I I can if I can see, close my eyes and see the movie, see the video, I'm writing a record. Um so I've always kind of been like, you know, in my own head, in my own zone. Only child central.

SPEAKER_01 6:28

So I I I I mean, I know I I checked out something, right? And that's I see you, you know, so you had an album, you know, you're uh So serious.

SPEAKER_06 6:39

Why So Serious, yeah?

SPEAKER_01 6:40

Yeah, why so serious was a super producer, I think it was uh who uh Magic Reed.

SPEAKER_06 6:45

Yeah, yeah, Magic Reed.

SPEAKER_01 6:46

Magic Reed. Uh what happened?

SPEAKER_06 6:50

Yeah. So I was in between I was in between Daddy's house, uh, which is Puff's old studio in New York, it's no longer there, and um in the Hits Lab in Bayonne, which is Magic Reed Studio. Um, and Magic Reed, somehow he heard my music that I was doing at Daddy's house. Okay. And he told me to come through. I came through, and uh he said, you know, these beats are cool, but what if we make sound around you? You know, let's build around you. Because, you know, he's a super producer, so he hears things other people don't hear. Right, right. So the guy took me under his wing, and you know, I don't really remember him charging me anything. I mean, I never lived at this studio. I don't, I think he just really he messed with me like on just like, I got you, but stay focused. Um, and I was always focused on the wrong things back then, you know, boys and what if people don't like me and da da da like you in your own head. So you block your own blessings sometimes doing that, right? So you just like kind of like if you if you know you got a gift, just just walk. You know, there's gonna be people along the way that just listen, basically, you know. So um, so I listened, took notes, and we created from the ground up, and that was a real fun album. Uh but at the time I was like, this is I don't know about this album, Matt. He's like, you're not listening to me. You're above your time. Just chill out. I know people. And you're just like, whatever, whatever. You're not realizing the blessings that are right in front of you. Right in front of you. Right in front of you. The people that are in my face. And I because you're you're worried about like, is this rapper gonna see me? Is this thing? You're not realizing they don't matter. Like they well, respectfully, they matter, but like the executives matter. AR people matter, you know? Some lawyers matter, pay attention. Like, I'm telling you, I'm putting you fine. You're just blocking your own blessings. So um, I was in the studio one night, finally starting to get it, starting to click. And I get a call. My dad was my best friend. He was like the only person at the time who like believed in my music. And I wouldn't say believed in it, but he, no matter what I said, did risky photo shoots that I took along the way, that he was like, You have to do that, but come on now, you know, calling people to get the pictures off the internet, stuff like that. Um, you know, he didn't play that. So uh he always believed in me, but one day um I got a call, I was in a studio, and they said, Um, you know, your dad fell. I said, What? He said he fell and he hit his head. Um, he was on the roof. And I said, uh, is he okay? And uh you kind of hear like this, you know when something ain't right. Like me and my dad were connected. And I just remember, like, all I can imagine will probably tell the story better than me, but like all I remember is like the phone kind of like falling out of my hand, and the next thing I knew, I was on the ground and his foot had caught me before my head hit the ground. Like it was like kind of like this. So I found out about my dad basically falling to his death at the studio.

SPEAKER_05 9:22

Oh dad.

SPEAKER_06 9:22

And I was just getting ready. I would just done my first show in Chelsea, just getting ready to like, you know, get in place with other things. Jermaine was working on some placements for me. Like, I was just starting to get in my pocket.

SPEAKER_04 9:33

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 9:33

And then like he passed away. So I remember calling my mom, because he was still alive at the time. She books me on a flight to our Orlando that night. I rush from the studio to Orlando, and it's like four or five o'clock in the morning. And I remember I'm on a flight and it's so loud. It's cheerleaders, the Montclair State University cheerleaders. I'm like, out of all people on this damn flight, a lot of cheerleaders, right? Like, you know, so but I guess there's a reason, right? You're trying to keep your spirits up. So I get to the hospital, my, you know, my dad they induced a coma. You know, he he said he he was walked in and said he was feeling so much pain that they just had to put him down. He never woke up. So, you know, me and my dad were like this. So I was the person that came out the room, opened the door to the waiting room, and there was about a hundred friends and family there. And I kept this smile on my face because I didn't want to make people nervous, but it had been three, four days, and they were like, is he gonna make it? I said, you know, dad's gone. And I had to make that public announcement to the family. So that was tough. Um, keeping that smile on my face for everybody, and then sitting there while everyone got to walk in the room, my one said goodbye, everyone got to say goodbye. And I'm sitting in the chair just holding my dad's hand, and uh, you know, I had to make the call to pull the plug with my grandmother because in Florida you can't keep people alive like that. That's like a law. Like in New York, you can keep people alive as long as you got money. It or used to be a law, but not here. So they pulled the plug, and I just remember like, and it's a tattoo on my hand of my my dad, like holding his hand, and like it wasn't probably within about seven minutes, if that he was like, took his last breath, and he just left. But I had known he was gone way before that. Like when I got that call, I knew in my heart, so I had already mentally prepared myself to go through that. Um, but then it was just like staying strong for every for everybody. I felt like my siblings, um, you know, and seeing a lot of people who, you know, my dad and I talked every day. So you was the oldest. The oldest. We talked every day. And so seeing like what my sister went through and she, you know, that regret, I should have answered his calls, I should have answered his calls, you know, and just really like taking a lot of life lessons about how short life is and how precious time is and definitely doing what you love and loving what you're doing. One of my last conversations with my dad, we said it's like, are you happy? You know, and I said, I guess, you know. I just finished my uh what was I just finished my master's degree in education and realized after spending what $80,000 on that degree, I didn't want to do that because there was no money in that.

SPEAKER_01 11:46

So you know, are you happy?

SPEAKER_06 11:49

And so uh, and then I remember that he's like, and I remember him just having a conversation about like just being happy, like don't go through life just doing stuff just because it's what you're supposed to do or what they tell you to like go be happy. So that was the last conversation we had. So it took a while after that for me to get my groove back because that he was my groove, like you know, like so. It took a while. So I it took some I I wrote, but you know, after that I completed some of the shows that we had booked.

SPEAKER_01 12:13

So did you step away from music after that?

SPEAKER_06 12:15

For a while. That was 2016. 2016. He fell in 2016. So I finished the shows I had to do. Um, and then I went about my life. I got a second master's in human resources. I was an executive by 28, so I was fortunate enough to just kind of have like that business smarts and still kind of go on.

SPEAKER_01 12:33

Right, right.

SPEAKER_06 12:33

Also masking that as like a oh life is good. I don't, I'm just gonna ignore this voice in my head. I'm life, I'm just gonna ignore this voice in my head. Fast forward to Miami. Um, I came out here with no intentions of getting back into the business at all. And I went through a a heartbreak, if you will, I had to call off an engagement. And um my neighbor at the time was a producer, and he said, just come to the studio, just come to the studio. I go to the studio, and um, he's like, Yo, you could actually rap. And I couldn't stop writing. Like the moment my ex left the house, I couldn't put down the pen. It was like for whatever reason, it just it just flowed. It kept coming back. It was like not only did it come back, it came back better than what it was 10 years ago. My life experiences changed. I was more comfortable with who I was. Um, I also learned a lot about budgeting and managing my money, so I knew this time around I might be able to sustain a little bit more than before. Uh, you know, so I I kept going. And um, you know, when we realized that, uh we were at Camp David and then we went to Oracle Studios uh because at the time I had friends that worked in and out of there, so I I had access to the studio whenever I wanted, which was a privilege. Um and they recently uh closed down. Um but uh you know it that place, I mean, we we'd be in the studio for 12, 15 hours, me and this producer, and then we'd have people just it got to a point where like I'd be in the studio recording, I'd look around, there's like a party going outside. Like people just like, this is y'all make it hit. But we'd be making bangers like ground up. I remember I was in the bathroom one day and I heard a doom, doom, and I was like, what's that beat? He's like, Are you joking right now? This is all on camera. And uh, I flew out the bathroom, like flew out, and I was like, keep that key and do this and do that. I mean, we built, we made hire that way, we made jungle that way. I mean, it was I just remember getting the fun back again. Like it was fun to be in the studio again. I didn't have bad memories of my dad anymore. I didn't even think about it. I was thinking about just taking, elevating.

SPEAKER_01 14:27

So you so so you in another word, you like that, you like to help build your own music, your own style, your own beats.

SPEAKER_06 14:32

Yeah, that's the that's the best part. Like that that I think there's like, you know, respectfully, I feel like that's the part that we're missing a little bit today. It's like a lot of people don't, they don't understand that collaboration. You know, they they get the beat, they stay in their bedrooms, and they just they just do what they do. And that could work. And it does work for some, but there is something real magical about being in a studio with people that do it and do it well. And you can teach and they can teach. And it's like an energy, you know.

SPEAKER_01 14:55

So we So what made you come back though? What made you come back?

unknown 14:58

Shh.

SPEAKER_01 15:00

What made you come back?

SPEAKER_00 15:03

Yeah, that's what I want to come back.

SPEAKER_01 15:06

I want to know what made her come back.

SPEAKER_06 15:08

When I when I when I had a story to tell and I had a I had a point to prove it myself, you know, at first it was like, I just need a I need a vent. And I'm like, no, this vent didn't actually sound like a damn hit. Fuck him. Like you know, fuck him, like you know, you were like my you know, respectfully, uh, you know, I've always dated people that I helped elevate. Right, but they they didn't elevate you. Elevate you, you know what I mean? Like it was like in the beginning, like, that's dope. And then it was like all about them. So this is the first time in my life since high school I've been single. This is the longest I've been single since high school. All right, and uh, it's the first time I'm putting me first. And so I'm elevating myself. So what's keeping me going, like I'm putting me first for the first time. Good thing, you know, and it feels it feels great, it feels it feels fantastic. But I'm like, I don't know, I guess fuck him. I got this, like, you know. So you know, but uh I and uh then I just realized like this uh it's making me happy, it's making other people happy around me. People are dancing, you know what I mean? Like, that's what it's about that experience, creating them experiences with people. And um top of all that, when you get to you know, make money with your friends, there ain't nothing better than than that, and having fun with your friends and making money with your friends, you know. Um and and that's and that's a and that's a blessing. So I when that started to hate it all day. When that started to happen, um we win it. You know, we win. Um and so yeah, and then you know, I like, you know, I realized that I really do like the camera. So uh my mom always said, if you look good, you feel good, and if you feel good, you do good. And I just realized that, yeah, it's time to look good and get out that house, you know.

SPEAKER_04 16:36

So how was it being raised by a single parent? And and and how did it affect you in life and in your music career?

SPEAKER_06 16:41

Yeah, um, so my mom, I watched my mom like from the ground up go from like, you know, we had the lights cut off, you know, she was just trying to make it to her getting in a car accident that ultimately gave us the money that we had to kind of do other things. Like God works in kind of crazy ways like that, but she almost lost her life. So really early on, like realizing you know, mom, mom could go. She had to learn how to walk, talk, and eat again, and all that kind of stuff. And um just watching her work, her work, my mom's work ethic is crazy. Like she just got her doctorates in business a few years ago. Like, that's like my grandmother's got her doctorates in theology. Like, uh like you know, so just watching these women like just work, like I don't it does something to it teaches you about hard work, you know. So, like in that that famous quote, like hard work beats talent when talent don't want to work. And I'm like, all right, well, I got that hard work. Well, shit, if I got the talent in the hard work, I'm unstoppable. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Let me let me own beast, you know. You know what I mean? Let me own me. So and I finally was able to accept that about me. Like, let me own me. But my mom always said that like, you know, like you have more power than you think you do. She was always instilling these little thoughts in me, like along the way, everything that she could, like, always look good, always smell good, you know what I mean? All those things like that, you know, always walk with your head up, shoulders back, you know, like watch your posture and those little sprinkles of things that mom gave you later on in life. You like, you know, um, you know, you can't fix stupid, you know, like stuff like that. You know, so those little things. So that was cool watching, but my so she had the business person, but my dad was a hustler, you know. So my dad was like, you know, he was a DJ, and I'll leave it there, you know? Yeah, yeah, he's doing his doing a lot. And so having that, and then having that, it's kind of like like if I really tap into who I truly am as a person, the the blessing that my parents gave me, and then my grandmother and my grandfather being in the church, they own a church, and that like keeping that, keeping my faith always on my back, you know, just always remembering that I got the formula to be a and what are you doing? Get up and go do what you're supposed to do. So it's kind of like I had that that aha moment somewhere between the the breakup and the going back to the studio, which like stop believing in everybody and believing yourself. Like do what your mom taught you to do. So that that hustle like from both sides really just got to me. But you know, also realizing that you don't have to rock like name my mom, we didn't have no name brands growing up. Nothing. She was big on that. Like, you know, um, so I don't get caught up in the Louis Vuitton and the da-da-da-da-da. Like someone would be like, You got a nice shirt on. I'm quick to say, it was Amazon, $20. Here's the link. Like, no, I'm not, you know what I what will that change over time? Who's to say I do like nice things? But my mom taught me to always like be humble no matter where you are in life. You know what I mean? Treat yourself, but be humble. But I'm more likely to like go on a nice vacation than buy a $10,000 bag, you know, like that. But that's coming from from my mom. Um, you know, so I guess she gave me that that practice too, you know.

SPEAKER_04 19:30

Definitely. You know, she instilled a lot of good positive things in you.

SPEAKER_01 19:33

Yeah. Looking looking back at your your your your your yourself, your younger self, right? Trifling. Did you did you what did you did? Did you felt you was prepared? And if not, what happened? Did I felt uh did you feel like you were prepared for this? If if you didn't, what happened?

SPEAKER_06 19:55

Why you didn't know my family laughs now, they're like, thank God you you started sprinting now than 10 or 15 years ago. Because you're like, yeah, like there's levels to this. So you could have the talent, but if you don't got the wisdom, as a especially if you're an attractive female or attractive anybody in this business, right? You walking around being stupid and naive, you wouldn't get caught up being with people who are gonna take advantage of you if you're not with the right circle, you know. And you know, we see it all the time on the news, whatever social media puts out there. Uh sometimes it's you know, we smoke in mirrors, whatever, social media hype and all that. But sometimes that shit is real. Like if you you go to that party if you want to, like, you know what I mean? But like, and 10-15 years ago, I might have been like, hey, you know what I mean? Like now I'm like, nah. Like, you know, like I'd rather I'll stop and say hello, and and you know, my you gotta know when to leave. You gotta know when to call it. And uh not and back then, you know, everyone was my friend back then. Fast forward, not everybody's your friend. Like, you gotta be careful who you who you hang out with. But I think back then, because you're so um eager, you know what I mean, to and your ego is so you're not you're not paying attention to everything else. Yeah, the the younger me would have probably gotten eaten alive, you know what I mean? The younger me would have gotten eaten alive. I mean, respectfully, I might have been in the goddamn ditty party, like if I'm being honest, because you just know you don't have no dis you don't have no discernment, but you're still trying to learn, you know what I mean. You know what I mean? At least now if I go, I know when I can leave.

SPEAKER_07 21:27

I might still go, but I'm leaving.

SPEAKER_01 21:29

When the shit gets crazy.

SPEAKER_06 21:32

I'm gonna do the Irish exit. You know what I mean? I'm about 5% Irish, so I can do that. You know, so no, but it's like you know, you don't you know, I remember being at uh at Daddy's house, and um I will say that like I always had a great experience, but I remember like one day when uh uh French was coming up when I was at Daddy's house. That was like his his time when he was like, Mante, uh come out. That was his era, right? So um I remember it was like a bunch of coke. And sometimes they used to come in my sessions, and I, you know, back then you're not gonna say no. So you're just letting the guys come chill in your session. Like that's that's that I wouldn't do now. You know what I mean? And then not just the friend, but like you just don't let random people in your session, regardless of who they roll with, because you don't know what they come with. You feel me? Luckily, fortunately, I was always taken care of very well, and no one ever tried me at all. But I remember one day, like one of the Coke boys, uh, he we were sitting there having a good time, and he goes, Puff had this big, and anyone who's been to student, they're gonna laugh, this big black leather couch, famous leather couch, and he had his table in the middle. He said, Such and such, like, and I'm not I'm not gonna say no names. He was like, You know who how such and such got famous? I said, Nah, how he said she got on that table to dance for us. And I said, Well, that's uh that's good for her, but fortunately for me, I got two left feet, and everybody started busting out laughing. So that's you know, when you have that kind of sense of humor hanging out with like the guys, so you kind of learn how to navigate like what you say and do it, but at the time I didn't know that that was a gift I didn't know I had at the time, which is kind of like the spin-off, the jokes, you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_01 23:00

Knowing how to like smile, make people smile, make them smile so people don't feel rejected.

SPEAKER_06 23:03

You know what I mean? It's like it's just I'm not rejected, I'm just redirected, and I didn't even know I was doing that at the time, you know. So uh, but it it was the lesson learned was yeah, I mean, like 10 years ago, had I had a left and a right foot, I might have got on that table. Who the f knows? You know what I mean? You know, thank God, you know, for you know, you learned, and that's just me being honest. You know, I feel like a lot of people won't be honest. I might have did it, but I can't dance.

SPEAKER_01 23:25

I can't dance. You you you gotta you got a new single out, right? Jingle. Jungle, yeah. Jungle, yeah, jungle, jungle. What what the uh what's that about? So the song starts off with matter of fact, matter of fact, hold on, hold that though. We got jungle, right? Can you play it? Can you play it, please? Hey. I like this second one right here? Yeah. That right there? Oh yeah. That's the song.

SPEAKER_06 24:08

It's making me sweat.

SPEAKER_01 24:09

That's the song. Yeah. That's the song. Yeah. But to go back to jungle, what made what what what where jungle came about? What did that come about?

SPEAKER_06 24:19

Uh well, starts off there's trouble knocking at my front door. So I'll give you a true story.

SPEAKER_00 24:23

Okay.

SPEAKER_06 24:24

When I I told you I called that for an engagement. So knocking at my front door was my neighbor across the hall. She ended up fing my my ex.

SPEAKER_05 24:32

Okay.

SPEAKER_06 24:33

I let this girl in my house, I called her a friend, helped her out where she needed to be. So I always talk about the snakes. You know what I mean? Because you gotta be careful who you let in your house. And I learned that too. That's what I like. You gotta be careful.

SPEAKER_00 24:44

You like jungle better than I like jumping?

SPEAKER_06 24:46

Jungle talking some shit. Don't talk that shit. This is talking that real life. It's body parts, is that's that sexy clutch. Yeah, it's just time to go. But jungle is like you're gonna learn to pray instead of asking why. You know what I mean? Like, I'm like, you gotta drive that car before you fly the plane, chill out, control, baby steps, tranquilo. You know what I mean? But body parts is that, that's that, that song that that's what that's what you gotta do for the people, you know. But jungle, I made some moves.

SPEAKER_00 25:14

You like jungle, huh? Jungle, I also I like the other one, man, because that's the jumping.

SPEAKER_06 25:18

It is jumping. I wanna get up, you know.

SPEAKER_03 25:20

I'm gonna listen to both of them.

SPEAKER_02 25:23

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 25:24

I realized like with the jungle, it was like, I'm talking to myself. That's me getting back to my music. So the sky is my music. I'm running through the jungle just to feel the sky. You know what I mean? It's just to get out and get get back to me. You know what I mean? Like, but I have to go through all this shit in this jungle before I can see the sky. I gotta go through the snakes, I gotta go through the tears, I gotta go through the prayers, I gotta make the same mistakes 50,000 times before my knucklehead understands you can't carry all this shit and get up. You gotta leave that shit in the jungle. Your backpack is only gonna take you, but you got a backpack? You can only climb out with a small bag. You can't take A, B, C, One, Two, Three, X, Y. You can't take on people with you. They're not meant to go with you.

SPEAKER_01 26:07

Yeah, you can't take everybody.

SPEAKER_06 26:08

But they're meant to be that they're they're part of the story.

SPEAKER_01 26:10

Without them, they're meant to be around you.

SPEAKER_06 26:12

You you're not gonna, but no one'd drop off, you know. Learn to pray, learn to laugh. You know what I mean? It's okay. You know, it's funny how when they when I was down, they all came around because misery loves company. The second you start to elevate, the second, and this is I'm going through this now, people they show you their at the ass.

SPEAKER_04 26:30

I mean, when when I when I hear jungle, it seems like everything, your your experiences and what you learn, you put in jungle.

SPEAKER_06 26:39

I put my heart in jungle. I put my whole foot and ass in jungle. I mean, I remember jumping on the table, and me and Bruce were like, we knew we held hands, like, this shit fire, like you know, and it was the first time that I had people in the studio go, um, you know, because we sent people just like in and out, and they go, D, this is the first time that I actually know who you are as an artist. And that that the light bulb went off. Like, body parts is cool. We had two versions of body parts. We got a Minx and Miami version and a Coke and Pepsi version, right? And I'm a big double entendre person, so a lot of times I'll be saying one thing, you'll think I'm talking about this, but it's a double entendre. So I couldn't be talking about that. You don't know what I'm talking about. Right. So uh, you know, I you I other people make it make it their own. But um, you know, I realize there's a time and a place for me to be jungle, but as an artist, a songwriter, because I'm a songwriter, right? You gotta write music not just for it's for you gotta write people for other people. You have to be able to. Not for you.

SPEAKER_01 27:34

You just people don't get it. Yeah. You're not right, you're not rapping, you're not writing music for you. No. You rap, you doing it for them.

SPEAKER_05 27:41

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 27:42

You know, just because a lot of people be like, oh, I don't like the way I sound it. But it ain't for you. That person out there who listened to it, they gonna love it. They might love it. And then you might miss out on your hit.

SPEAKER_06 27:52

You'll block your blessing, try to tell everybody tell everyone your story. I always said this like 10 years ago, I wanted people to know my story. Let me tell you something right now. Don't nobody give about your story.

SPEAKER_01 28:00

No, they don't.

SPEAKER_06 28:01

I'm sorry, we could talk about this story that has friends and we can get to know each other. But when it comes to the gate, respectfully, nobody cares about your story.

SPEAKER_01 28:10

They don't.

SPEAKER_06 28:10

They don't, but if you can make your story a hit somewhere and take yourself out of it and your emotions, okay.

SPEAKER_01 28:16

And you good.

SPEAKER_06 28:17

You might have a record. You good? That's business. That's why they call it the music business. You know, but it's if you don't have that mentality though, yeah, and you just want to go, I want everyone to hear my story. Well, get in line. Because it's a thousand stories that want to be heard just like, and they're just like yours. You know, one thing my aunt told me, and it's rude, but it's true, you're not that important. I just sound like a whole asshole saying that.

SPEAKER_04 28:40

Right.

SPEAKER_06 28:41

But it's not to be negative. It's you may be important to your mother, your man, your girl, your circle. But to eight billion people, you're in a point.

SPEAKER_01 28:49

They don't know who the hell you are. They don't give a fuck about you.

SPEAKER_06 28:52

And the moment, and let's say you get colossal, you know? The biggest. Right. The second you do such, they waited for you to fall. They're gonna talk about that more than they talk about the future you do. Facts. So, you know, you just you gotta be prepared for that. Ten years ago, I cried every night. You know?

SPEAKER_01 29:08

Let me know. Tell me, any time, is there has there been any time where you felt like you lost out on an opportunity? And looking back, what did you learn from from whatever I experienced if that if that if that happened to you?

SPEAKER_06 29:28

Yeah, I I'll say this for us. I always say, if it's meant for you, it'll be for you. But if it's not meant for you, it ain't gonna keep coming back. But don't take advantage of it when it keeps coming back because eventually it ain't gonna come back. So I remember one night I was in Hoboken, New Jersey. It was two o'clock in the morning. And this Lambo, purple Lambo, I think, pulls up. We had a diner. I'm recording at daddy's house, so you know, I got I got some bombs in my backpack, maybe. And my friends are like, yo, d I dare you to walk up to that guy and ask him what he does for a living. I was out there, I walked up to anybody, I didn't give a shit back there. It don't make no sense. And he goes, I was like, what do you do? He looks at me, he starts laughing, he goes, My name is Justin. Okay. I'm Jay-Z's producer. Just Blaze? I said, Oh shit. I ain't have my music on me. I ain't have nothing. And if I told him I was a rapper, he'd laugh because you and everybody else in line.

SPEAKER_01 30:27

Oh rapper.

SPEAKER_06 30:28

You ain't got your music on. You not you're not ready.

SPEAKER_01 30:31

I'm not ready.

SPEAKER_06 30:32

Damn, how you a rapper running to someone like Just Blaze? You went to Daddy's house spending $80 an hour at the time making $15 an hour, and you ain't have shit to give them, you ain't ready yet. Because if you were ready, you would have been prepared. So that happened. Happened to me at daddy's house. French taking, I was outside and my Chevy Cruz. They said, I was supposed to have a session at like five o'clock. Jay goes, it's gonna be a while. French is here. You you might want to go home. I said, No, I'm waiting because I had Eli Tubo with me, who was Rock Him and Eric B's producer. Yo, Eli, drop the beat. Yeah, drop the beat. That's my man. You know, it's like he had me since I was a young yung. That's my guy. I said, nah, go because I I want to I want Eli to see the work I've been putting in. Like I'm trying, I want Eli to see, like I'm serious.

SPEAKER_04 31:21

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 31:21

So we waited in that car. And he he Eli did something. He lived in New York, so he went this something. I'm sitting on my Chevy Cruz. I look to my left. It's Harf Pierre. The vice president of bad boy. You at that guy's studio every freaking week. You ain't got no music.

SPEAKER_01 31:38

Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait a minute. Wait a minute, wait a minute. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. I I I I I need to know, right? I need to know real quick. I need to know real quick. Who have you been around? A lot of people. In the industry. A lot of people. A lot of people. Because you call in a Harv, you know, Haitian Pierre, you know, you know, and let me tell you what my dumbass did real quick.

SPEAKER_06 32:04

Because Harv don't know me from a can of paint. He just probably, if you saw old people, like, oh yeah, that's that girl that was. He don't even know my he got a black and mild in his hand. I used to smoke black and mild. I'm like, I double checked my phone to make sure I'm looking at I rolled down my window because he couldn't find his lighter. You know what I said? Excuse me, sir. Do you need a lighter? He looked at me like, what the fuck? Nah. No. Stay ready, still gotta get ready. Fast forward. French took five extra hours. I was in my car for five hours waiting for that suit. Because they don't let you go upstairs if you were like people like that in the room. You can't go. I don't care how much money you're not going upstairs, they block it all off. French took went over on his time and he left me. I was in studio B. The one that you walked to the left. So French was always in studio A, which was like the big boy studio. I ain't had the money to get in there. French told Jay to tell me he was apologized for taking taking over and that the rest of the night I could stay in studio A, the big studio. So that's when I realized like some some solid ass people in this world, too. Like I never met French a day in my life, but he gave me a night that I'll never forget. I got to be in one of the biggest studios that I've ever been in with Eli Tubo. And that was all I wanted to do was show Eli at the time. Look what I did. You know what I mean? So like it was it was cool. It was really, really cool that experience, and I'm thankful for it. But like I've been around without being around, like a fly on the wall, you know? I've had you know done radio shows and Mr. Cheeks was there, you know. I've had opportunities to work with Project Pat and just kind of just like always just kind of whatever. And then I, you know, I remember a Jay had told me, like, yo, I got this this uh contract where you can do with uh you know Rick Ross. And you know, I didn't know his real name at the time and I read the contract. So who the hell is this? But it was like back in the day, they want like $10,000 for a feature. I'm making $15 an hour. I said, yeah, I can't do this. You know, and you don't even you don't even get to meet these people. They just they go, you send it a beat, they send it back, whatever you do with it, that's on you. That's on you. It is so it's $10,000.

SPEAKER_01 34:02

You gotta promote it, you gotta do what you gotta do.

SPEAKER_06 34:06

But like that's on you. So it's like a you know, so I'm like, I ain't got it. So they gave me the opportunity for Project Pat. It was half of that. And I was like, nah, well, you don't end up doing a song with Project Pat that year. Young MA. You know what I'm saying? Lesson learned is next time go to the bank and get a goddamn loan, bitch. You know what I mean? But I wasn't ready. I didn't know, I didn't know enough. I'm thinking I can rap, these people should want to work with me for free.

SPEAKER_01 34:33

You gotta pay, you gotta pay your way. You gotta pay your way.

SPEAKER_06 34:39

You know, so nothing is free, and that's a lot of times these independent arts you gotta realize. I'm like, ain't shit free. Yeah, sorry. You you want to work with the biggest, you better come with the biggest. You know, like and uh so now you know you can go learn how to go to Chase Bank and get a damn loan and figure that shit out. You know what I mean? So yeah, but how about working with um Eli Tubot? He's the best. I talked to him this morning, he's the best. That's my guy. I met Eli because I was used to be a personal trainer at uh LA Fitness. That's how I met Kevin Woodley. And Kevin Woodley was behind some of the some of the greatest. He's AR, some of the, you know, he was uh Russell uh Simmons right hand at one point, okay? So I'm I'm aging myself as I'm having this conversation, but that's okay. So I said, uh, you know, I'm Eli. Kevin was like, you got something, but you haven't put in your 10,000 hours yet. You're rusty. I said, what the fuck is 10,000 hours? So this is so he taught me about the respecting of 10,000 hours. Put go to the gym, practice. We're talking about practice. Yeah, we're talking about practice. Go practice. You can't win games if you don't practice. You know, and I think a lot of times AI, they twist what he said. That man went to practice. What we're saying was, why are we talking about something that you should be like that's normal? We're talking about practice. Talk about something else that comes with it. Not he don't go to practice. My hard ass didn't want to go to practice. I was like, I'm good. I can shoot a three-pointer, I gotta practice. That's ego. You know, so I had that had to be checked before I got to the got here today. That had to be checked before I read it to you at uh at the show a couple weeks ago. If my ego was through the roof as it was back then, I'd have blocked, I'd have blocked the show. You know what I mean? I'd have blocked the show. What the hell? You know, but like now it's just like I'll jump on any stage. Whether it's one person in the crowd or it's three hundred people in the crowd. You gotta believe that. There's that one person or that three, somebody in that crowd gonna make a difference. Yeah, that's ego. Ten years I gotta be like, I'm not doing that. Now I'll do that 50 times over. You know, like so you gotta you gotta go through stuff, you know. And uh, you know, hopefully somebody listens to this. I'm dropping gems, you can get out your own, get out your own way. You know, so you know that that's really it. But I'm thankful. But yeah, I had a lot of um opportunities that I go, I'm glad it happened because I wouldn't be here today to talk about it, you know. There's a reason for it, but now I'm coming.

SPEAKER_07 36:55

Move out the way.

SPEAKER_06 36:57

I'm coming. You know what I mean? So I'm definitely coming, but I I love it. What's that red bag right there? I got you something. I got I got a little bit.

SPEAKER_01 37:04

I'm looking at the red bag. Oh, for real?

SPEAKER_06 37:06

Yeah, I got you all.

SPEAKER_01 37:07

I'm looking at a red bag. I don't know. I see you came in with a red bag. I'm like, what's going on?

SPEAKER_06 37:11

I I um I heard that you had uh I was watching your show with Rick Ross.

unknown 37:17

Okay.

SPEAKER_07 37:18

And I heard you had a little lesson.

SPEAKER_04 37:38

And he said, thank you, thank you, thank you, sweetheart.

SPEAKER_06 37:44

I had ordered something customized, but it got stuck in the UPS, so whenever it comes, I'll deliver it here.

unknown 37:49

But for now, you got that.

SPEAKER_03 37:55

I do not have that anymore. That's a long time ago. Let's just keep changing.

SPEAKER_05 38:04

It's more than gifts.

SPEAKER_03 38:08

Oh my god. What the hell? I got you. Oh my god, what the hell go on the boat.

SPEAKER_04 38:14

Oh my god, I want to tell you you gotta put that you gotta put it right there.

SPEAKER_02 38:45

She's unique. She's definitely unique, she's definitely unique.

SPEAKER_07 38:49

Oh my god, what's the it's like a journal I wrote each of you a I wrote each of you a note. You heard Walk the Walk? Open that open that part of that journal. I wrote this side on the brown part. On the brown part? Just read it. Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_02 39:07

Uh fragrance list.

SPEAKER_07 39:09

Super calipaties look at XP out of the dog.

SPEAKER_02 39:15

Oh my god, to become okay.

SPEAKER_01 39:19

Next chapter, thank you.

SPEAKER_02 39:24

Okay, I love it. I love it, man. I appreciate it. Appreciate you, man. Definitely enjoy this car stay, man. Hey, walk.

SPEAKER_01 39:34

Put that over there, man. Put that over there, man. Put that over there. That's gonna stay. That right there ain't go nowhere. That's gonna be on every show. That's gonna be no every show, wow. Yeah, right now. It is by the way.

SPEAKER_06 39:48

And one day when I can afford that SC, I'm pulling up. The whole story.

SPEAKER_01 39:53

Oh man.

SPEAKER_04 39:53

Oh man, that's what's up, man. That's what's up.

SPEAKER_01 39:56

Yeah, I like that. Appreciate you.

SPEAKER_04 39:58

Appreciate you. Oh man.

SPEAKER_01 40:00

Yeah, I see that red bag. I keep looking at that red bag. What's in that damn red bag, man? Yeah. What you got in that damn red bag, man?

SPEAKER_06 40:07

I always say that, you know, it's um, I gotta say. I love that, you know, like making people laugh and stuff like that.

SPEAKER_01 40:14

I gotta go ahead and try to buy me a next.

SPEAKER_02 40:21

Trying to get me on the next, though. I'm gonna get out of the key for it, no.

SPEAKER_04 40:42

So Danielle, what the um what's the importance of having a sense of humor?

SPEAKER_01 40:47

Boy, that's too much.

SPEAKER_07 40:48

Life is too big.

SPEAKER_01 40:50

I haven't got a little screwdriver.

SPEAKER_02 40:52

Oh, yeah. What a screwdriver for, god damn it, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 40:58

You can you can see I figured at this point in my life, because I done I done uh, you know, I I've sat in my dark, dark houses, you know, with the beautiful view with the shades down in darkness, right? That's a choice. You make that choice, you know, like so I can sit at home and be sad and be depressed. Or go to counselor, get on meds, whatever it may be, do whatever, drink my pain away, get as high as a kite so I don't feel my lows and I've been there and back, you know what I mean? So, or I can get up, make some of my and look back and go, I'm glad that shit happened because if it didn't, I wouldn't be here. Even out if that girl didn't come knocking on my door and take that man, have him. Thank you. That shit's funny as hell to me now. But I wish you both well, you know, like Cardi B said, in hell. No, you know, no, no, I wish you both what you got out. You gotta laugh at it. Sometimes you gotta laugh at shit because we do it to ourselves. Like all the heartbreak and the pain, but you've seen that shit months prior. You know what I mean? We've all been around people. We knew we shouldn't have been around them. For whatever reason we around them, I don't care if it's a girl or a girl.

SPEAKER_01 42:08

We stuck some whatever reason they stuck to us. And then we can't get rid of them.

SPEAKER_06 42:12

And then all you can do when the shit hits the fan is go, that's your own goddamn fault.

SPEAKER_01 42:17

You should have never, yeah, you should have to do it.

SPEAKER_06 42:19

God showed you eight months ago to get from them people. The joke on you. So you gotta laugh because sometimes life is too. It's wars going on. We live in America, man. Like, I don't care what how bad people say it is here, every country got its pockets. But you you won't gotta worry about I I could dress like this and go outside. If I dress like this somewhere overseas, I'm going to jail.

SPEAKER_00 42:45

So Dubai, you can't do that in Dubai. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_06 42:48

You live in a country where you can go on online and and tell the president F off if that's what you feel like doing. King Jong, you get it. Try doing that shit in Korea.

SPEAKER_00 42:56

You can get your hair. You got your hair cut off.

SPEAKER_06 42:57

Try doing that shit in China. Like, you don't realize, like, I I build a when I was a kid in high school in middle school, I built houses for the homeless in Tijuana every summer with a youth group for a while. And I realized, like, I remember one year I was so mad at my mom because she couldn't afford to get me a PlayStation. And I go build the houses in Tijuana with supplies that I got from Home Depot with the church. And it's a family of three, four people with a dog, no running water, no electricity, and an outhouse little area, a little thing to shit and they covered up. Meanwhile, I'm pissed out my mom getting on an airplane because she couldn't afford as a single parent to get me a goddamn PlayStation. That's how I left her and went to Mexico. The nerve of you.

SPEAKER_01 43:36

And you see, and you see this. And you see happy.

SPEAKER_04 43:39

Yeah, happy as hell.

SPEAKER_01 43:41

Very gay.

SPEAKER_04 43:44

We're talking about that. We're talking about some issues of a certain person has. You said, oh, man, you won't, you won't, you won't know what another person is going to be going to. You think your problem is the biggest and take care of it. Somebody else's worse situation than you.

SPEAKER_01 44:00

Stop crying and bitching about what you don't have. Because that push around the corner. They ain't got no roof. They ain't got no eyes. They ain't got no legs. So thank God you got two legs, two arms, you know what I'm saying? So man, I don't I don't complain, man.

SPEAKER_06 44:12

I just thank you. And it's like it's like a lot of people like, you know, I live in Miami Beach, and a lot of people like, you know, the spoke of mirrors. Oh, like your life must be so easy because you live here. Don't compare yourself to other people's lives. You don't know what the I had to be in the house.

SPEAKER_07 44:30

They ain't been in them shoes.

SPEAKER_06 44:31

You ain't been in them. You don't know what the should be.

SPEAKER_01 44:32

It's been in the boots. Boots.

SPEAKER_07 44:34

These boots hards. Gold boots.

SPEAKER_01 44:37

You don't know what he had to do. Goldie. I'm gonna stop calling you goalie boots.

SPEAKER_06 44:41

I love me some hot boots. But I do not know what he you had to do to get in that chair. And what you had to do to get in this chair. Like, stop comparing yourselves to what you see. Because it's not what you think. You know, like it's like if you spend your whole life comparing yourself to other people, you ain't gonna get nowhere. You're gonna be sad. You're gonna be very sad. You're gonna be behind. So you get out your own way. I had to stop saying, I don't know why, like, you know, this rapper's here, now I'm here. Well, she there and you there, because you too is he worried about her.

SPEAKER_01 45:07

Right, right. You understand so.

SPEAKER_06 45:09

So it's like you you you have to go through these lessons of life. You know, I had to see those house in the tea and wanted to be appreciative of the fact that, you know, what I had at home may not have had a PlayStation. You know what I mean? But now I got a PlayStation 5 I don't play. Games I've never opened, you know. Like, um, and that's just that's some American bullshit that I just told you. You know what I mean? Like, that's you know, like you so it's just you be thankful for what you appreciate, yeah. Yeah, be thankful for what you have. So I'm thankful just to be alive. Yeah, yeah. Lord knows he saved me from a I told you I could have sat in that room and been depressed and been so high up, I couldn't come back down. I was saved, you know what I mean? And I and you gotta just keep going. The music saved my life. I had to when I go to the studio, I'm focused. Like, I don't think about that, I don't think about this. I'm focused.

SPEAKER_01 45:55

Music is sued the soul, man. I love like me, yeah, you know, me walk sometime. Adrian, he'll come by the house, and we just sit in front of my house, we just listen to music and just vibe.

SPEAKER_06 46:06

That's it.

SPEAKER_01 46:07

Just talk and vibe, but it'd be like so peaceful.

SPEAKER_06 46:10

Yeah, and that's the that's fun though. Like a backyard party you take with your friends.

SPEAKER_01 46:14

I love it, man. I I mean that is that is my my peace right now. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? Sometimes my wife wanna come, oh that only for my peace. She might see, you know what I'm saying? But that is my peace, man. That is my peace, you know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_06 46:33

Good music. Good music is good music, you know, and and and looking at people forgot to make hits.

SPEAKER_01 46:39

Looking at your future, looking at your future, Danielle. Alright. What would you like people to look at, you know what I'm saying? Your legacy.

SPEAKER_05 46:54

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 46:54

You know what I mean? What what would you like for people to feel about you, Danielle Marie? Legacy you want to leave behind.

SPEAKER_06 47:04

I want someone to say, like, yo, that song got me through. That wasn't I don't even I don't even have to hear it. Like, I don't need the I don't need the the kudos. Like, I just want to know that I'm making records for like when that song got me through. You made a difference. You made a difference. I made a difference, you know what I mean? Like made a difference, I like that. Yeah. And uh like I made a I used to volunteer teach in Newark at citizen schools after school programs, and uh this this girl Maniah, she was mute, she watched her parents like burn in a house. She knows she, you know, uh and she wasn't she didn't talk. For whatever reason, this girl started writing poetry and she used to give me her poetry. And I'm like, sorry, and she was like, and I was like, the teacher came up and she's like, you know what the mania don't talk. I said, that's weird, she talked to me. She talked to me through poetry. And I saved autumn poems. Or am I safe? And I said, if I ever got a chance to thank her for her words saving me, like that's the legacy I want. The mana legacy. You know what I mean? Like, thank you for giving me a voice again. Thank you for, you know what I mean, giving me an outlet, you know, like when I was blind, you helped me see.

SPEAKER_01 48:10

You know, like that's that point.

SPEAKER_06 48:13

So I guess, you know, I want to leave a maniah legacy because that's what she did to me, you know, like, and she had to go, and it's crazy to think about like that little girl had to go through that to get me that paper for me to always have that burned in my brain, so I could take that ball and run run to the end zone. Sometimes that's just life, you know, like and that's just probably one of the many things that girl's gonna go on and do. Because she was in high school back then, like or middle school. But I can if she touched me, I can only imagine the gem she's gonna she's sprinkling if she's still around today, you know. So yeah, I want to leave that maniah legacy for sure, that effect. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 48:48

That's what's up. That's what's up. Before we before we close out the show, is there anything you want to say, any message you want to put out there? One more question. You want to ask one more question? One more question. Go ahead, go ahead. My bad.

SPEAKER_04 49:01

Go ahead. Danielle Marie. Give me one word. I know it's many words, because as you speak, it's a whole bunch of words that I say that identifies you, but you give me one word that identifies Danielle Marie.

SPEAKER_06 49:15

Super califagalistic, ex-filial dosis.

SPEAKER_04 49:19

Oh shit.

SPEAKER_06 49:20

I think that's I think that's gonna be it. I think that I that came out my it rolled off my tongue. And I don't stick to it because it it means like I I'm everything. You know what I mean? If you look at the urban dictionary, I'm everything. I'm here, I'm there, I'm I'm happy, I'm wisdom, I'm wise, I'm so super and so called and fabulous that man, I'm XP aliados. You don't even know what to do with me.

SPEAKER_01 49:43

Hey, hey, hey, hey, Danielle, I want Danielle, not to cut you off. See, Danielle, I want to ask you for I want to ask you a favor, right? Uh after the show, right? Um I'm I'm doing a little photo shoot for a smoke cigar, right? Which is I'm part owner of. I would like to do a if we can, me and you could do a picture together.

SPEAKER_06 50:04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 50:05

You know what I'm saying, with a cigar. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_06 50:06

Can I smoke a cigar?

SPEAKER_01 50:08

Not back here, unfortunately. But you can hold, but you definitely, you, yeah, I'm gonna give you, um, you know what I'm saying, make sure you take one with you. Yeah. But you could off, you know, hold it in your me and you, we're gonna take, because you know, I gotta do a photo shoot for it.

SPEAKER_04 50:20

Yeah, yeah, for sure.

SPEAKER_01 50:20

You know what I'm saying? Cause yeah, most definitely. Most definitely, man. Hey.

SPEAKER_04 50:24

I already know that's because that vibe. Yeah, yeah. She got a good thing.

SPEAKER_01 50:27

It's just she just uh and not only that, man, not only that, man, I want to let people who's watching who know, she ordered food for the crew. You feel me? She ordered dinner, she she was like, I don't want to, you know, come empty-handed. She bought gifts and she ordered, you know what I'm saying, dinner for the crew, man. So I mean, come on, man. I mean, somebody like that, how can you not support them? And you know, when I and when I met her in Tampa, when I met you in Tampa, and it's like my spirit attracted your spirit right away.

SPEAKER_07 51:08

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 51:09

You feel me? And then that's and I'm a very spiritual person, and that's why you're here.

SPEAKER_06 51:14

Yeah. That's why I said to her, I saw him at the time, I was like, You look so familiar. He's just laughed. I'm like, I who I like I had to go home. I'm like, who is this guy? I'm like, oh, oh, oh, but I didn't know. But sometimes I will say this, sometimes it's good to not know. Sometimes it's good to not know because I feel like some people get they get too caught up when they know. So I'm kind of glad I didn't know.

SPEAKER_07 51:40

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 51:41

I'm glad I didn't know. Because I might have been nervous on the stage. You know what I mean? Like I'm glad. Like, I'm glad I met Juice on the strength of just passing through. Because I might have been nervous, you know. Like, and so I feel like sometimes it's it's best you don't know, you know?

SPEAKER_01 51:53

And shout out to Juice and E Mac. For real.

SPEAKER_06 51:57

For real. Definitely. Definitely, because they they put a lot of good connections together that we get. And I told Juice that I said, I think the one thing that, if I don't, if no one gets to tell you this, I think the one thing you did for every artist there was give them hope. And we talked about it, you know, a little bit of hope. Like you let, oh people, oh, I can still do this. People like, yeah, you he did that. You know what I mean? But I feel like a lot of people when they they don't get their flowers when they're alive. Like, you don't realize. So every chance I get, if you do something right, I'm gonna tell you because tomorrow's not guaranteed.

SPEAKER_01 52:25

It ain't tomorrow ain't problems. That's why you gotta live today as your best.

SPEAKER_06 52:28

Yeah, yeah. So I appreciate the both of you. Anytime someone asks me that question, you know my answer already. I'm super califagilistic, explicit.

SPEAKER_01 52:37

That's what it is, man. That might be the next hit song. I appreciate you for coming through. You know what I'm saying, on the Papa Zoe Show. Man, it's all love.