From Beggar to Visionary: Claiming the Provision God Already Has for You | Myrna Miott

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In this episode of The Kingdom LeadHERship Podcast, host Stacy Jo Coffee-Thorne welcomes Myrna Miott, founder of I Promote Hope, to address why many Christian women undercharge, fear sending invoices, and avoid asking for payment. 

Drawing from 20+ years in nonprofit fundraising and kingdom-driven brand building, Myrna explains that “income funds impact,” challenging the belief that staying small is more godly and naming “toxic humility” as fear disguised as spirituality. She clarifies that the gospel is free, but time, expertise, and execution are not, and encourages listeners to pursue surplus to serve communities. 

Myrna contrasts a “beggar posture” with a visionary partnership invitation, shares practical coffee-meeting questions and language, notes funding and grant opportunities that require proper business structure, and urges women to send the invoice without discounting or apologizing, 

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SPEAKER_01 0:00

Welcome to Kingdom Leadership, the podcast for women pursuing kingdom purpose with faith and intention. This is a space for clarity, encouragement, and conviction. It's a place to pause, refocus, and realign your leadership with what God is asking of you. Whether you're leading in business, ministry, your home, or your community, this podcast is here to remind you that your calling is intentional. Your obedience matters, and your leadership is meant to be aligned with God, not carried in your own strength. I'm your host, Stacy Joe, and together we are leaning into leadership that is whole, obedient, and rooted in purpose. Let's get started. Maybe you cut the number in half before you hit send. Maybe you never even sent it at all. If you have ever undercharged, overworked, or felt your stomach drop at the thought of asking someone for money because you didn't want to feel salesy, I need you to know something before we go any further. You are not wrong for wanting to serve people well. But there's a lie a lot of us have believed that staying small and staying quiet is somehow more godly. And today we're going to unlearn that together because I need to unlearn this as well. I've been in these situations, so I understand. If you caught last week's episode, you know that we talked about the money lie that so many of us have believed. And that is that profit is somehow this dirty word, and that God is more pleased with us when we make less. And that's a lie. And today we're going to go even further into that same truth because there's another version of that lie that shows up the moment we have to ask someone else to invest in what we do. You know what I'm talking about. Welcome to the Kingdom Leadership Podcast, where we talk to women leading in business, ministry, the home in their communities. I am Stacy Joe Coffey Thorne. I'm your host. And I brought in someone today whose words literally stopped an entire room at one of our ACBW luncheons. I knew the moment that she said it that not just that room needed to hear it, but this whole community needed to hear it too. So let me introduce you to Myrna Myat. Myrna is the founder of I Promote Hope. And for over 20 years, she has built kingdom-driven brands and helped raise millions of dollars for nonprofits working with organizations like Food for the Poor, the American Heart Association, and the National Urban League. These days, she works directly with private clients, helping them generate multiple six figures in revenue by changing the way they think about asking, funding, and partnership. Myrna, I want to welcome you, my friend, to this podcast. And I say my friend because you truly are my friend, and I am so grateful that you're here today.

SPEAKER_00 3:05

It's so good to be here, Stacy Joe.

SPEAKER_01 3:08

Thanks for inviting me. I know this was very short notice. So thank you so much for your quick yes and for jumping on here with me today. But you're the founder of I Promote Hope. And like I said, you've spent over 20 years building kingdom-driven brands and raising millions for nonprofits. So tell us the heart behind that. Why brands and funding, not just fundraising?

SPEAKER_00 3:35

Yeah, so I've spent over 20 years doing fundraising for nonprofits. And then the heart behind all of this with I promote hope and helping brands to grow, it comes from a place of frustration. I want to call it holy frustration. Because for years I was in the trenches of major gift fundraising, and I sat at a very unique vantage point. And I saw exactly who had the power to change communities and who didn't. I will never forget this one after school program that was operating right in the middle of an underserved community. And it was a pastor that was running it. And he had a heart of gold. He poured his absolute soul into those kids. And for three years, he funded the entire thing out of his own pocket. And eventually his bank account hit zero. He had nothing to give, and he had to shut the doors. And as I watched that happen, I hated it for the community. I hated it for him. And I realized that passion does not keep the lights on. Volunteer vibes, they don't scale. And then I looked at the other side of the room. I was approaching highly successful business owners. And guess what? They had the capital and they wanted to help. I had made it easy for them to partner with different missions, which is actually how the cause marketing arm of I Promote Hope was born. But but watching that contrast changed my entire theology around money. I realized God wants his people to have the provision to fund his work. We don't have a passion problem in the kingdom, we have a revenue engine problem. And a mission only survives when it has the capital to employ people and sustain the cause. And that's why I do this because income funds impact. And I decided can you repeat that? Income funds impact. Come on. And I decided I was going to help kingdom leaders build the engines that fund great visions.

SPEAKER_01 5:56

And you know, at our ACBW luncheon, you said something that stopped the whole room. You said something to the effect that, and we're talking about women, we're talking primarily to women today, but so as you were talking to them, you said something to the effect that if a woman is undercharging, overworking, or terrified to send an invoice because she doesn't want to feel salesy, yeah, she can't afford to keep operating that way. And you're saying the same thing right now with that. That so tell me, why does fear show up so often in Christian women leaders specifically? What is it about that?

SPEAKER_00 6:34

Well, I hear women tell me all the time, you know, this is a kingdom business. I can't charge for this. I'm a minister, I'm a missionary, I can't charge people for the gospel. And they have spent so much time inside the four walls of a church where everything appears to be free. And they start to believe that people will not pay them. They feel like people won't pay them for their services. But here's a massive truth that we have to wake up to. You're not charging for the gospel. The gospel is completely free. Salvation is free. But your time, your intellectual property, your coaching, your execution, that's not free. And even inside the church, nothing's actually free. We can't go to the electric company and say, hey, this is a church and we don't pay electric. The lights still get a bill, right? The AC still has to be paid, you know, through the electricity. The after-school programs, they need those things. And they're funded because someone in the congregation, guess what they did? They went to work, they generated wealth, and then they wrote a check. So when a when someone refuses to charge because they think it makes them more spiritual, they're making a bow, a vow to poverty that God didn't even ask us to make.

SPEAKER_01 8:54

Yeah. I don't think God ever said that.

SPEAKER_00 8:56

It doesn't feel like I can't find that anywhere in his in his words, you know. I feel like it's just a Christian mask that maybe we might have made up somewhere on the way, and it kind of caught hold. It sounds righteous and it but it kind of keeps us paralyzed.

SPEAKER_01 9:14

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 9:15

Yeah. And I hear it so much.

SPEAKER_01 9:17

I mean, salvation is free, right? Yes, absolutely. However, it still has a cost, it still had a cost, and that cost was for Christ to die for us so that we could have that salvation. Yes, it was given to us for free, but there was still a cost to that. I love that you bring that up. Jesus paid the invoice. That's right.

SPEAKER_00 9:40

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 9:41

There was still an invoice that had to be paid. If he didn't pay it for us, there comes a day when we would have to pay it, right? Absolutely. Either way. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. So why do you think well, and we've and we've kind of already touched on that. So yeah. So I'm gonna I'm gonna pause here for a minute because if if you're listening and this is landing hard, uh, please hear me. This isn't about guilt. You know, you're not behind. You are not failing God by wanting to be paid well for work that helps people. And there's a difference between humility, scripture actually calls us to, and the fear that has just been dressed up to look like humility, right? I mean, James chapter four, verse two says plainly that we do not have because we do not ask. That's not a rebuke, that that's actually an invitation. And this is the same lie we unpacked last week, just wearing basically wearing a different disguise, because a woman who won't ask, won't invoice, won't name her price, and thinks she's being humble, but she's still carrying that same fear that profit and provision are somehow unspiritual. And that just is such a lie from the pit of hell that I think we just need to rebuke when that comes into our comes into our ear. That is not from the Lord, that is from the enemy.

SPEAKER_00 12:28

Yeah, and I go ahead. Yeah, no, I love that you're just like challenging that thought um head on. There's something else too, like that also sounds pretty humble that I wanted to bring up that I always hear. I always hear people say, um, I just want to make enough money for me and my family to be okay. Right. Which is also sounds very righteous and it sounds humble, right? Like it's like, no, I don't want a private jet, I don't want boats and all that. And I'm not saying for you to want that, right? But I do think that there's something in between, and there's nothing wrong with wanting that, by the way, in my opinion. In my opinion, I agree, right? Yeah, but there may be something between having just enough for you and your family and wanting a private jet, right? So if you only make enough for you and your family, doesn't it sound like a little bit selfish?

SPEAKER_01 13:27

What about our kids? Yes, yes. Now that you're putting it that way, yes, it actually does sound selfish. You're right.

SPEAKER_00 13:34

Yeah. So if you only generate enough for your four walls, what happens to the after school program? What happens to the community that needs our help? You know, so God didn't call us to just be okay and survive, He called us to generate surplus, yeah, right? Think about like Joseph's storehouse, like that we would have a surplus. And he's a God of abundance, and we can be a conduit for his provision for others.

SPEAKER_01 14:04

But yes, if we'd all put a cap on it, right? Because how can we make an impact for his kingdom if we're only making just enough to serve our family? Yes, how can we serve the single moms? You know, that's where my heart is. I know your heart, your heart, and my heart line up on that a lot. Yeah, you know, serving single moms. I want to serve the homeless if we don't have additional overflow and abundance, who and our God is the God of abundance, right? Like you said. So He would not want us to live in lack.

SPEAKER_00 14:41

Absolutely. We are made in His image, and we I want to reflect that, and I want to teach others to be able to reflect the abundance of God's character, right? And if we put a cap on it, if we put limits on what we're allowed to make, what we're allowed to invoice, doesn't that kind of put a cap on what we're able to provide? And God can provide it all, He's limitless. So it's just us opening up our vessel to be filled to overflowing so that it can pour out into our communities and those that have need. Amen.

SPEAKER_01 15:18

So, with your experience through this, where do you think that confusion comes into play? Is it theology? Is it upbringing? Is it something else? I mean, in in and you know, I'm not gonna hold you to this. I'm gonna like well, I'm not gonna be like, well, Myrna, you said this. But in your opinion, where do you like where do you see this coming from?

SPEAKER_00 15:37

You know, I'm not really sure. And it's weird because I feel like all of this comes from my own internal struggle. Does that make sense? Yeah. So it's it's not like, oh, like I got this all figured out. It's like I could say probably on a weekly basis, I go to God about this. You know what I mean? So it's like, even like the other day, I was listening to someone say that they had a very good job and that God told them to get a different job where it was half their salary. And God told them that they needed to have half their salary and learn how to live on that. And I was so confused by that. Like, I was like, how come God would tell them that? But you know what I believe? I believe that there that God gave us the power of our mind, right? The power of our own thoughts and the power of what he's calling you to. Does that make sense? So it's like somebody could be called, like, say it was Mother Teresa. I believe she was called, absolutely, yeah, but everybody doesn't have that calling, right? And so, just like maybe everyone doesn't have the calling for wealth, but if you do, I would like to provide the pathway for you to be obedient to that calling. Yeah, yeah. And so I'm not saying that it's for everyone, but I do believe that there's some people that do need to be challenged, right? Because there's in some ways saying that you're going to only make enough money for yourself and for your family, sometimes the reason why I want to challenge people is because it could be almost a form of laziness. Do you know what I mean? Because we know what the fruit of laziness is, right? Yeah, yeah. So it's poverty, right? Right? And so we don't want to be lazy. So we're there's a place where I believe that each of us have to be called to in prayer and asking God, what is it that you are calling me to? And so I like to talk to people that are called to say business ownership, but a business that is supposed to be thriving, a business that's supposed to be thriving so that they can give an outpour to others and be that reflection of God's abundance, yeah. And maybe not for everyone, right?

SPEAKER_01 18:15

Yeah, and and you know, going back to, you know, I I see it often where, and I've experienced it myself personally, where my upbringing, you know, we didn't have a lot growing up. And so my upbringing kind of made me settle for for what we had. Yeah. And not that that's not that settling. Well, no, I'm not gonna say that because I think settling, I don't think settling is ever of the Lord. If we're not growing, then you know, we're we're stagnant, yeah, and we're settling, we're settled.

SPEAKER_00 19:00

Yes, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 19:02

But I saw that and got comfortable with that. And then the Lord really woke me up and was like, this is not what I have for you. And I'm not saying that he's giving me millions, this is not prosperity gospel or anything like that. I'm not definitely not saying that. I don't know what all he has for me, but I know he is birthing things in me and my past that that I'll call it a generational curse because I do see it as a generational curse. And those generational curses have to be broken because God didn't mean for those to continue on down the line. Yeah. But we can settle into those and say, well, that's just the way it is. That's just the way God made me. That's that's what God has for me. He doesn't have any more for me. And we can get into that mindset, a toxic mindset, that can turn into toxic humility, I think.

SPEAKER_00 19:57

I see exactly what what you're saying. And um I think everybody has their own journey with the Lord on this. I really do. Like, because I tell you, I struggle with it all the time, but I know that I believe for myself that I'm not called to this place of comfort. Right. And so when we start just getting like lazy and comfortable and not thinking of others because we're okay, I just feel like if we would yield ourselves to the Holy Spirit, there could be so much more, you know. And I know a lot of women like us and people that are listening to this podcast, our desire is to please the Lord. We want to make an impact, right? We want that God's footprints and handprints will be all over everything that we do, and it's hard to do that when we don't have enough.

SPEAKER_01 20:53

Yes. Yeah. Um, you say something about stepping into being a visionary as opposed to having a beggar posture. Yes. So, what does it cost a woman when she stays in that beggar posture instead of stepping into being a visionary?

SPEAKER_00 21:11

Well, there's so much limitation on that, you know. I talk about coffee meetings a lot. It's just part of my whole framework is having as many coffee meetings as you can. Yeah. So a beggar goes into a coffee meeting and uses words like donate, help us out, support my cause. And when you use that language, you're asking for a handout to fix your problem. Oh yeah. And it feels kind of heavy. And sometimes maybe the other person listening to it, they could be getting tired just listening to it. Or sometimes it's good, like, oh, you'll get like a donation, maybe like a small one, but then you'll have to go back and ask again, and you just become kind of like identified as this beggar. And if you flip it and you kind of start becoming a visionary, because God works through vision, doesn't he? He says, without a vision that the people would perish. That's right. So a visionary completely flips the script. A visionary goes into the same coffee meeting and says, We're launching an initiative this year, and it's going to be completely transformative for 50 families in our community. We're looking for three partners who want to attach their company's name to this level of impact. And I want to invite you to be one of them. So, wow. Do you hear the difference? Yes. Yeah. So you aren't asking for a rescue, you're making people the champion of a story. And isn't the Bible full of stories? That's what we love to tell these stories. And like we hear the heroes of faith, and we're offering opportunity for people to be heroes of faith, heroes of provision, heroes of abundance, just like our God. And you're offering them a high-value partnership. So when you shift from please help me, to I'm inviting you to this winning vision, people pull out their checkbooks because everyone wants to invest in a winner.

SPEAKER_01 23:10

Oh, I love that. And that's what I that's I love what you teach because it's not hype, it's not manipulation, it's just a language. And a system that let women ask with clarity and confidence. And the invitation to be a part of something bigger than what they are, bigger than what they could do on their own. And, you know, Matthew chapter 7, verse 7 through 8 says that it will be given, you know, seek and you will find, knock and the door will be open. And asking was never meant to be shameful. You know, even let's let's talk about Queen Esther. Even Queen Esther was told she could ask for up to half a kingdom. So asking boldly is all over scripture. And asking, framing it the way you just did. And we have a lot of nonprofits that are involved in the Association of Christian Business Women, and we serve nonprofits through philanthropic measures. And I think this is so great for them to hear because you know, maybe they are begging.

SPEAKER_00 24:15

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 24:16

Maybe they are not stepping into being a visionary or asking, inviting others, I'll say inviting others to be a part of that vision.

SPEAKER_00 24:28

Yeah. Yeah. And you know, it's funny because this whole thing is becoming almost like this ecosystem, if you can hear it. Yeah. Right. So it's nonprofits, it's ministries needing funding, but where are they getting the funding? Right. So a lot of times the funding has to come from people that have businesses like you. Right. People that have businesses like me, people that have businesses like our listeners, right? So it's, and that's what I love about ACBW is that that ecosystem is churning right within our network because every time when we meet, we're always talking about a nonprofit that we fund at the luncheon, right? And then the room is full of women that have businesses. So if we bolster our businesses, right, and you put the nonprofit in front of the room asking for a partnership, who wants to partner? The people that have the money to do it, right?

SPEAKER_01 25:26

The people who are invoicing.

SPEAKER_00 25:28

Exactly. We want to help them to invoice so that we can hunt these nonprofits. So you see the whole engine that goes around. And that's what I love about what you created, Stacey Joe. That is, I mean, I love so many things about ACBW, but that's one of the beautiful things that I love is that when I go to a luncheon, a nonprofit is in front of the room. I'm hearing a visionaries ministry, right? So I would love to empower all those ministries to first be okay to ask, right? And to empower the women that could be that nonprofit's partner. Yes.

SPEAKER_01 26:09

Yeah. And and I know you and I talked yesterday a little bit, you know, there are funding opportunities out there for women. Um, not just for nonprofits, but but for women in business. And they have most women, I didn't know. Most, I mean, I know there are that there are, you know, you can take out, you can get a loan or whatever, but there are, I had no idea that some of the things exist and that we have access to them as businesses. Can you talk about that a little bit?

SPEAKER_00 26:40

Yeah, the there's so much available, and it's really staggering. Women leave so much money on the table because they don't realize that there are untapped, like you mentioned, business loans. There's specific grants out there for new founders, especially. Um, but there's a catch. You have to have your business entity set up correctly to qualify. And it's funny because you and I were talking about this, Stacey Joe, that this is something that you were thinking that you wanted to help women with eventually, too, is that helping them to structure things the right way. Because once they're structured, the floodgates open. And that's why I and I have a four-hour build session where we actually sit down, review what's available, and I open up my personal network of business funding specialists for them because I want them to know exactly how much capital is waiting for them once their revenue engine is built. And I love sitting with women and helping them to be connected with those funding sources. So I do have some business funding specialists that I work with, and every situation is different. But the groundwork is that it needs to be set up properly. I know that this is a message that is meant for so many, maybe not even just women, um, but just a shift in our mindset for all of God's kingdom businesses, that it is for us that we would be funded so that we could go in and help in our communities, help in the missions work that our church might be doing, um, to help those after-school programs uh in our different communities. Uh, one of the visions that I've had is to fund school break. Man, it's summertime right now as we're recording, and so many children are not able to be funded for just summer experiences. And that's part of what my business has been working on and doing some cause marketing, and that that's how I promote hope. The cause marketing arm of this was built. That is amazing.

SPEAKER_01 29:02

You also talked about the fact that you built a zero-to-funded script vault. Can you give our listeners just a little taste of the kind of language that turns a 45-minute coffee chat into a real partnership? Yes.

SPEAKER_00 29:18

That the biggest mistake that women make in these meetings is they spend 40 minutes talking about, oh my gosh. The I know I'm guilty too. Talk about the weather. They spend five minutes. Yeah. Talk about the weather, talk about family, talk about their vacation, their kids. And then at the end, they go into this nervous, apologetic script, you know. Um, and so what we want to do is we want to turn that coffee chat into a partnership. And so mastering, you know, just certain lines of questioning and getting the person on the other side to talk more, um, and not about just small talk. So about 15 minutes into the conversation, you you just look the person in the eye and ask the right questions. You can say things like, um, if you were a business, maybe what's the single biggest bottleneck holding your vision back right now? And then just let them talk. And then the question changes the entire dynamic. So now you're not just talking about the weather, the kids, the husbands. They start talking, they start talking about their business. They start talking about real things that you can connect your vision to. And you can say things like, I know exactly how to fix that. When they start talking about their bottlenecks, you say, I know exactly how to fix that if you're a business owner. And here's what I'd like for us to do to think about partnering together. Maybe we could solve it together. So it kind of changes it from this, you know, you got nothing except for a cool friendship. And we talked about that before we got on the call. I was really good at creating friendships because I do love to talk to people. But when I change some of my questioning, yeah, I think us women, we we do that. But when we change it into a business conversation with an invitation at the end, and for my ladies that might be coaches, oh my gosh, you're just so incredibly well positioned for these types of calls because you already know how to ask the right questions. And if you're a coach, only thing this is, is you're inviting people to you're inviting them to work with you, inviting them to get more of what they just got in the free coffee chat. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 31:40

Oh, Myrna, you have just brought such a wealth of information to us. So thank you so much. And and I want to ask you if a woman listening today has been sitting, let's say she's been sitting on an invoice that she's scared to send or she's afraid to ask, and so she's been putting it off. What do you want her to do the moment this episode ends?

SPEAKER_00 32:01

I want her to not discount. I want I want her to not send a five-paragraph email apologizing for her price. I want her to just send the invoice and say, I am so excited to build this engine with you and hit send. Period. That's it.

SPEAKER_01 32:24

Excellent. So before we get out of here, before we end this, I want you to tell everyone where they can find you your website, your social media, how can they reach you if they want to work with iPromote Hope? Because you do a lot of coaching. You coach coaches.

SPEAKER_00 32:39

Yes, I do coach coaches. I coach authors, speakers, consultants, and I do have the cause marketing that we started as well, which we didn't get into that. But if anybody's interested, of course, you can learn more about that on our website at ipromotehope.com. But first of all, before I get into that, I have to say this to your listeners. If any of you are Christian women in business and you are not part of association of Christian business women, you are operating at a deficit. Stacey Joe, as the founder and president, you have built the most incredible Christian sisterhood where we don't just network, we pray, we share real, real resources, and we aggressively build each other up. And I can't thank you enough for that because it has changed me, it's changed my network. And everyone listening, you need to get plugged into ACBW. Wow.

SPEAKER_01 33:40

And thank you, Myrna. It of course it's such an honor. It really is such an honor to be a part of this organization for me. Um, because the women that God has brought into this organization are are just incredible women such as yourself and so many others that I could I could name right now, who just bring so much to the table and so much wisdom. And when we come together and we bring all that wisdom together, and we put him, we put the Lord in the center of all of it. There is there's no ceiling there. There's no ceiling there. Sky's the limit, right?

SPEAKER_00 34:21

Anything is possible. That's right. And Jesus told us that. So I love that when we get together, we can kind of connect and and believe because it's true. It's true. It's just that sometimes when we're in isolation, we stop believing that anything is possible. But somehow when we get together with our sisters and we pray and we share resources and we sometimes even cry together, we start seeing anything is possible. We've seen so many miracles just on the prayer call when we get together on Fridays. Like blood gates are opening everywhere, which we can talk about that some other time. But God is just doing an outpouring, and I love your obedience in this. And um, once people are plugged in to ACBW, um, if you're ready to build your own revenue engine without burning out, I want to help you to build that bridge. So definitely go to ipromote hope.com. There's on there, there's a button that says uh book a strategy call with me. So you just fill out a short application and we're gonna have coffee together virtually, and then we'll see if you're a good fit and map out um your accelerated revenue generating plan. Excellent.

SPEAKER_01 35:35

And I know you're already working with some of the women in ACBW helping them in their in their coaching businesses and in their uh nonprofits, so yeah, and authors too.

SPEAKER_00 35:46

Like that's been a whole nother thing that's just opened up. So it's like God is good. I love helping women, um, sometimes men too, but I definitely love helping um women to see what God has invested in them, right? Don't bury the talent, ladies. God has invested so much, and there's going to be an increase. But we we need to start working together, be in community, and I can definitely help you to build that engine.

SPEAKER_01 36:15

Praise God. Well, I want to thank you for handing us the language that we didn't even know we needed. And if you are a woman who's been shrinking her price or swallowing her ask, hear me say this plainly: provision was never meant to sit and wait on your fear, it was meant to flow to you and through you. To you and through you. Okay, send the invoice, make the make the ask. And like you said, stop apologizing for the value you bring. Stop apologizing. I want to pray for us, Myrna, before we go. So, Father God, I just thank you for this opportunity to be here with my sister, Lord. I thank you for the wisdom that she has brought to this podcast today, Father. Thank you for the wisdom that you have imparted to her. Continue to bless her with the knowledge and the wisdom, Lord, that she needs to help others so that the impact on your kingdom can be so much greater than what it is now. Lord, we give you all the glory, we give you all the praise. We pray over every woman that is under the sound of our voices, Lord, that this would touch their heart where it needs to touch, Lord, and that they would take the steps that they need to take. Lord, we give it all to you, we surrender it all to you. Our lives, our businesses, our families, our communities, our nation, Lord. It's all to you, Lord, because you steward it so much better than we ever could. But we thank you for entrusting us, Lord. Give us the humility, but not a toxic humility, Lord. Give us the strength to follow and to do what you have called us to do with boldness and courage. And we pray all this in the name of your precious son, Jesus. Amen. Amen. If this has stirred something in you today, please share it with a kingdom leader who needs to hear it. And come find our community at the Association of Christian Businesswomen. It's acbw.org. Until next week, lead whole, lead obedient, and lead with joy. And we'll see you next time. God bless you. Thank you for spending time with me on Kingdom Leadership. If today's conversation encouraged you or brought clarity, take a moment to reflect on what God highlighted for you. Trust Him even when the path isn't clear, because He is faithful to direct every step. New episodes of Kingdom Leadership are released every Monday, and I invite you to join me again as we continue pursuing Kingdom purpose with faith and intention. Until next time, lead with wisdom, walk in obedience, and trust God with where he's leading you.