Judgment Day

Savannah DesOrmeaux Does Bad Good

Zach Zimmerman

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Heaven's newest admit is stand-up comedian and self-procalimed shoplifter Savannah DesArmeaux! She's a good sister BUT she steals BUT she looks out for her friends BUT she signed her ex up for spam? Heaven or Hell?? Only time will tell!

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Do you fear death? Because I don't fear I don't fear being dead. I don't fear dying. Like I fear like the approach.

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Oh. Yeah, of course I fear pain. The landing.

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The landing. But like once I'm dead, I don't care at all.

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Interesting. It's the transition. Yeah. Well, should we do it now? Yeah. At least we're going to go.

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Oh my god, it's happening. It's happening.

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Now you have died and gone to heaven. You'll be interviewed by an entry level.

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I'm Zach Simmerman, comedian on Earth, Angel here in heaven, auditing the new souls to make sure they belong here. God needs a sort. God needs help too. I was gonna say outsourcing. Is that even relevant? AI's gonna get rid of this job in a year. Today's paperwork is comedian Savannah DeSarmo. Savannah DeSarmo, the one and only. How did she die? Well, Cajun by birth, Savannah found herself in an abandoned mansion in New Orleans where the vampire Lestat lured her into a twisted romantic game of cat and mouse. Just before he could feast on her blood, turning her immortal, he got the ick and pushed her off the balcony.

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Oh shit. So I didn't die the normal vampire way. He just lost interest.

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Yeah, sorry about that. You're better than him, though.

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For sure, for sure.

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Welcome to the show.

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I'm so happy to be here and honored.

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I'm excited. Um, I know you personally, but that will not impact my assessment today. Good.

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Of your eternal story. I'm not a Nepo angel.

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Nepo angel. Do you belong in heaven 60 seconds on the clock? Opening statements, Savannah.

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Um, I think I do belong in heaven because though I've done a few bad things, I think I do it in a way that a good person would do. And I think I'm I think I'm nice to people. I think I follow the golden rule. That's I feel like above the the seven sins and above the ten commandments is the golden rule, right? So I do unto others as they would do unto me. Yes. Right? I think it's that. Um and uh 30 seconds left. Gosh, I mean, what else is there to say? I have I have great hair. I think it would look good with a halo.

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The bangs are new.

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I feel like the bangs are new. I feel like they could carry the weight of a halo. Um and my grandma said I was going to heaven. So to say that I'm not is kind of going against my grandmother.

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What's her name?

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Her name was Ellen.

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Grandma Ellen, and that's time. Grandma Ellen. I love the idea that you do bad good.

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I do bad good.

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She does bad good. And just since you brought it up, these bangs are new. The bangs are new. Is everything okay? No. Also, I'm not sure what a bang is, because I don't see a bang right now.

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Wow, gaslighting me about my own. Where's the bang? The this is the bang. Okay. Well, for this is an audio medium, but the bang is in if you cut shorter hair to the front. Yes. But yeah, they're grown out, and so they kind of go into the rest of my hair. So I could see how you would be fooled.

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Is someone supposed to be able to tell there's a bang when it's brushed to the side, or it has to be? Um You're hiding your bangs right now.

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And not on purpose. It's really a failure on my own part to not style them correctly, but I'm learning. I'm new to bangs.

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And I'm really important as someone uh whose hair is perfect at all times, right every way. Right. Has definitely not had a haircut for five months. Right. I am in a place to judge you.

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Please. We any other things about my appearance you want to make a remark on?

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This is mostly about your character. Oh, okay, God.

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I um, you know, aesthetics matter.

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Okay. God has eyes. Okay, yeah. God's a looky loo. God I want to help you. God has eyes.

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God is a woman and she has eyes.

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And she uh is a lesbian.

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Okay.

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And interested. Okay. And the dress is cute too.

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Thank you.

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You look great.

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Okay.

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I meant this as I realize now I was commenting on a woman's body, which I've been told to not do.

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I don't think bangs are my body.

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Bangs aren't your body?

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Nah.

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Oh, they're like I guess they're outside of your body.

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Yeah.

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Or they're like attached to your body.

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Yeah.

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Huh. These good deeds you mentioned. Yeah. You mentioned that you've done good things on earth. Could you um could you let me know um maybe a time you like showed up for a friend? You've been a good friend.

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I'm a good friend. I showed up for you once.

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Uh-oh.

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Does that count?

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When?

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One time you were upset about a heartbreak. Me? Yes. He's broken.

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Anxious attacher that falls too quickly with abandonment triggers.

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We were new to being friends.

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Oh no.

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And I picked up the phone and I talked to you about the heartbreak with the woman. That's so sweet. Do you not remember it? Now I'm like, okay, well, never mind. Um let me pick another one since you forg you forgot that I showed up for you.

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I was in crisis. Okay. And I feel like in crisis, you sort of any boat I will lean on.

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Oh, so I could have been any I could have been anyone. I was just who was available.

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But I came back to you. For sure. You did good. Yeah, I did good enough. Remember what you said?

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Um or it was mostly a listening situation. It was it was mostly a listening. Yeah.

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That's a problem when heartbreak happens.

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Totally. But I think uh, you know, I said something to the effect of like it's going to be okay, and I completely understand that that would be heartbreaking.

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Oh, that felt good to hear. Is that a line? No. That was so good. A pickup line? Yeah. That that I felt seen, heard. Wow. Did you mean that? That was so good.

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I meant it at the time. I don't mean it right now. I don't know what you're going through.

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You know. Yeah. We're don't get me started.

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It's going to be okay, it's so powerful.

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It's going to be okay. Because it's always true. But does it minimize the crisis in the moment?

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No, because I think it's true.

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Like you're reducing, like I'm in the gallows. Yeah. I'm in a noose. Okay. I'm about to be the button or lever. I'm watching Handmaid's Tale.

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Right.

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Eight years late.

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I mean, it's about to be nil.

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Nil?

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Like it's about to be. It's going to be okay because you're about to not exist.

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Wow. Are you like a nihilistic therapist? That's such the perfect line.

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Okay.

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Everything's gonna be okay until it's not.

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Well, that's why I'm like, do you do you speaking of death?

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Uh-oh.

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Do you fear death? Because I don't fear I don't fear being dead. I don't fear dying. I like I I fear like the approach.

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Oh. Yeah, of course I fear pain. The landing.

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The landing. Like once I'm dead, I don't care at all.

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Interesting. It's the transition. Yeah. Well, should we do it now? Yeah. At least we're going to be.

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Oh my god, it's happening. It's happening.

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One of the best, uh, one of the best hinge profile prompts I've ever seen, or maybe it was Tinder. Someone was like, if you knew you had 20 minutes left to live, what would you do? And the guy said, I would find a way to die sooner.

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I get that because like with 20 minutes isn't enough to do anything. Like that's send texts. Yeah, send some texts. I guess I should call my my mother.

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Could you, you know, experience pleasure in 20 minutes or the threat and looming of death?

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No, because I don't have time to call someone over. There's no time. You can take matters into your own hands. That's what I'm saying. The only option is to take matters in my own hands. And I'm like, no, like with 20 minutes, no. I have other I should call my mom. And I have a very big family. I should call a few people.

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Can you multitask?

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Touch myself while I'm calling my mother, Zachary.

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The holiday, Mother's Day will have been a few days in the past. I don't know what that means.

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Right.

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Yeah, you're right.

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No, I'm not gonna do that.

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I took a shower when calling my mom once.

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That's different.

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Like I wanted to talk to her, but I needed to shower.

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That's that's not sexual.

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It's not, okay.

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Because she's, you know, your naked body to her is nothing.

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What? Oh. Right. Yeah, she's seen all that. Yeah. She made that. She made it. She made that. We were once one. Exactly. And now we are too.

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I think now you're still one to some degree. I don't know how close you are to your mom.

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Uh we're exploring boundaries this year.

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Shout out.

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Heartbreak showing up for someone. What's the best thing you ever did while you were on Earth? You lived a good long life. What's the best thing that you ever did ever?

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Ever?

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Um besides get those nails done. My god, they look amazing.

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Yes, bitch.

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Um recovering from the bangs.

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The best thing. I'm kind of it's kind of a universal balance.

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Um uh what's the question again? Best thing you ever did. You're a good friend. Are you a good daughter?

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But I feel like I I think so. I mean, I I think I would be better.

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Rosemary's grand what's that song? I am Rosemary's granddaughter. Spitting image of my father. Do you know this?

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I don't know this, but keep keep going.

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You're from the South. And when the day is done, my mom is still biggest fan. It's a southern song. Because I haven't lived there in a bit.

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No, I never listened to country.

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I have to be careful singing songs because I do it exactly right, and we get flagged by YouTube. They're like, oh my god, that's the original. We don't have the copyright for it.

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Is that literally Brooks and Dunn on the mic? I actually just started listening to a Brooks and Dunn song. Their country too. Their country. Give it a go. Mam Maria. You know that song? Uh oh. Mam Maria. That's all I know.

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Why has your entrance into heaven devolved into us doing a Maria?

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What if you okay, what if this? The pearly gates open, there's a karaoke machine. What song are you singing, baby?

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This is good feedback for heaven. I mean, you know I love karaoke.

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Like, you have to karaoke, you have to lip sing for your life. You have to karaoke for your life to get in. What do you do?

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Oh my god. The lyrics?

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Well, you know Because it's not, I mean, this goes into karaoke theory, but like it's not how well you can sing it. It's like how you can create a stunning vibe in the room.

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Oh, right. It's not what you say. People won't repeat that.

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I know people are shocked because they just got a sample of my voice. Like, obviously, I'm a beautiful singer.

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Yeah. Um we we notice a huge drop off in the analytics. You were shocked.

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She started singing swamps.

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It went from four people to three people.

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I mean, and I'll just I'm actually like kind of not really into to karaoke. But I I like I like singing songs alone in my bedroom.

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That's very high school teenager of you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it's important I said high school and teenager because people go to high school at different ages.

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It's so true, and and and we see all of those people. And they are that's your main viewership, right? Is like adult high schoolers.

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We're when they have disposable income, we're going on tour and it's gonna be great.

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100%.

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Actually, I think it's just my friends and a few uh fans who think they're friends. Shout out to them, parasocial relationships.

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Which is that's the all we have in entertainment.

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Yes. Thank you for watching and listening. I also hate karaoke.

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I I've realized I don't really love like group, I tend not to like group fun. Like when I I think having fun with friends, not for me. Not for me. No, I like no no no no no. I like having fun with friends. I just think most group activities I don't have pleasure from.

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You're a one-on-one gal?

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No, like okay.

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You went dancing one night.

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I like dancing. That's different.

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That's a group activity. That's group fun.

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I don't like karaoke, I don't like bowling.

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Oh, I love bowling.

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I don't I often don't like board games. There's exceptions to that too. You don't like feeling trapped within like I think when when adults get together, we should all be um so intellectual and funny that conversation is thrilling enough.

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That's no, it's horrible. It doesn't happen. It's horrible. It happens one out of a hundred times. Well, and I see that. The board game can take care of that other 99 times.

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Yeah, I guess. Okay, but I really dodged the question.

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Yeah. Are you what's the best thing you ever did on earth? I don't like karaoke. And I'm listening to Brooks and James. I'm a horrible heaven. I don't like but heaven is all group fun. You're not making a great case. Right.

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We need You're all getting together to play cornhole up there. Yes. Um, I'm I'm I think I'm a great big sister to my little sister.

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Oh, like in your sorority or biological?

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No, biological bio, bio.

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What's her name?

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Her name's Eliana. Eliana.

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And you're a good big sister. Yes. What qualities make a good big sister a good big sister?

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Um, I fix all of her problems that she comes to me with. Oh, okay.

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Um enabling her not to learn how to grow her.

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Yes, yes, keeping her baby, keeping her young.

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Stay young, baby.

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Stay young, my baby. Um, no, I mean, I talk to her about hard things. Um I think I'm a good liaison between the parents, the parent, and the child. I can kind of talk about where I'm like, they're being crazy, right? Like, what's the age gap? Um, it's actually a very fun age gap. Uh, she's she's um she's 20, I'm 33, and then my stepmom, we're half sisters. My stepmom is 44 or something like that. So we're really like you're right in between just about 11 you know, 11 years old.

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And you had very different childhoods. Her and I? Yes. Not and different moms even. Different moms, even. So you are a good liaison.

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Yeah. That's right. Truly.

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Do you share? I don't know how science works. Do you share my DNA?

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Yes. We share my dad's DNA.

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Got it, got it. And does that play a role in your ability to understand her? You're like, you got some of Chuck in ya.

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I guess.

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I mean I don't know if your father's name is Chuck.

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She he it's not.

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I took a swing. You took a swing. And one out of a hundred times I would have been right.

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Um, yeah, I think so. Like, but also at the same time, I think like there's a lot of her childhood I maybe don't understand because we we didn't grow up in the same one. But um, I think so.

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Wait, that's kind of nice, actually. Yeah. Because me and my sisters feel like we had very different childhoods, even though we had the exact same parents, and it's kind of a mind five. How how far apart? Uh four years older is one sister, and then two years younger. Yeah, we had the same exactly.

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There's studies on this that it's like even like definitely me and my sister, but even every sibling has a different childhood in some ways. And then they say like every seven years, it's like a true reset. Oh. It's like a completely different household.

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Yeah. But they've done studies on this. Yeah. Studies. Studies. What's the last thing you did for someone else that wasn't paying you to do it or benefiting your career in any way? Fuck.

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Um, I got nothing. No. Selfless act. No, um, well, I had a friend. Um I I I don't know if I can talk about that, but it is that would be that would get me into heaven.

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We already we already know it all.

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Oh, oh, it's all in the the dark.

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We already this is just cross-referencing fact checking. It's like it's like my taxes. We know what you did for her.

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They know how much money I owe. This is exactly what I'm saying. So I'm like guessing details about my life.

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And we tell you if you're lying or not.

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You know what my problem with this podcast is? My personal problem is We're not soliciting feedback at this moment.

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What's your problem with what's your personal problem with the biggest?

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The reason why I'm not a good guest is because I think you've been a great guest. Thank you. Thank you. Fishing for compliments and it works. No, I I have horrible.

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The bangs are long, but you're a great conversational.

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King bangs are ugly. Say it.

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I don't know what a bang is. You coming in right now and saying I have bangs, I lose all sense of what a bang is or means. Well, and do I have bangs? I took what is a bang? When does something become a bang? That just means hair on the front of your head. Yeah. This does could come down like that. Yeah. Does that make it a bang? I think so. So a bang is not a permanent state, it's a gaseous fluid. Bangs are a spectrum.

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Well, but you also have short hair, shorter hair than me. So in some ways, you have to bring that up. You have bangs. Sorry, I haven't been growing it out.

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A bowl cut. I got a chili bowl cut.

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I have a bad memory, so I can't remember.

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But but is that why you're a bad podcast guest?

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Yes. Well, for this, it's like it involves memories.

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Oh. Not all of it's memories. We got other things.

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Something I did for someone that didn't benefit me. I mean, okay, well, I had a I had a friend who was.

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Oh no. Sounds like it's gonna not be fun. It's not fun. Oh, I hate this. Don't you hate when you have like tea and then you're like, oh, actually that was a crime. It wasn't fun, sexy tea. Oh, here's a fun one. It was a crime. Okay, good. It was a fun one. I hate that we know what it was.

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Well, what did you think it was gonna say? What do you think I was gonna say? Because now I don't think you know.

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Something unconsensual happened. Oh.

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No, it was consensual. They were consensually being an alcoholic.

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And I helped them. Oh, that's good.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Why did I jump to that?

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I don't know. Anything to share?

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But is it consensually being an alcoholic? Because an addict's sort of not capable of That's true.

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I think the more we we learn about the addiction.

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That's real love.

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The addiction brain.

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But here's she been on a GLP one that's been showing to reduce addict stuff.

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Um here's a more fun one.

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Okay.

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A friend of mine had uh, she was talking to a guy. This was in college.

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Okay. She was talking to a guy. And this is the last good thing you did for someone in college.

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Was it was that the prompt? The last thing. The most recent good thing. That's okay. College works. College works. Well, I was in college last year.

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Extended education.

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You can be a recent grad for up to three to ten years, I think. I'm a recent grad.

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You're a recent grad. Yeah, I guess cosmically.

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I'm a recent grad of the University of Life. Um, my friend, talking to a guy, she was kind of losing interest in him, but still texting him.

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Many such cases. Many such cases. That's cruel. Stop using them.

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Well, in college, no, I think now we now we do. But in college, you're like, She wasn't sure, but she was losing interest in him.

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You gotta let him know when she was.

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Anyways, he was like, What are you doing tonight? And she was like, We wanted to go to this house party. But she was like, I think I'm gonna just stay in. No, she didn't wanna have to be like, she didn't want him to be like, let's meet up later. Anyways, okay. She was like, I'm staying in tonight.

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And you stayed in with her.

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No.

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We went to the party. Oh.

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We went to the party, and you left. And then we're talking, and then the door opens, and he walks in.

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No. How could this happen in a small campus?

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Well, it's it's not a small campus, it's the city of New York.

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You went to a New York school?

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I went to a New York school.

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Did you go to NYU?

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I went to NYU.

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Oh my goodness.

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Yeah.

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I thought everyone who went to NYU was super successful.

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Well, here I am to show that it's a varied exper it's a varied experience, the grad. The recent grad. The recent grad range.

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I think I've said that line before, actually. Maybe to you. No, it's good. No, not to you.

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No, that that that sorry. That was too sharp for me to have heard it before.

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Um, anyways, he shows up at the party and I go hide.

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Oh, to her.

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To her. I was like, you've got to hide. She grabs, I I go straight to him.

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Yep.

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And I was like, oh my God, hey, it's good to see you. Have you been in this apartment before? And I start.

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Had you met this man before?

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Yeah, yeah. I mean, she was my roommate. So and I start giving him a tour of this apartment. Not mine, to be clear. I was like, have you seen, have you seen Jonathan's bedroom? Yeah.

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Away from my friend.

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And so she grabs her coat, grabs her hat, grabs her purse, leaves, walks around the block, and then texts him saying, I'm actually catching a second wind. I think I'm gonna come to the party.

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She says that. Yeah. Hilarious. Yeah. Hilarious. And then she stages a second entrance into the party.

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And she goes, coming into the party.

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Fellas, if she wanted to, she would.

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She would stage a second entrance.

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She would stage a sec to protect you from hurt.

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That's kind of sweet of her in a second. This is what I mean. I do good and a bad bad in a good way.

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Bad in a good way.

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Bad in a good way.

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You can do bad in a good way.

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Write that down, write that down.

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Savannah, we've got some moral dilemmas for you. Let's get off. Let's take a sip of our iced teas. Southern gals. Hmm.

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Tea.

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Savannah. You can viewers, three viewers watching, you can email. Email your ethical dilemmas to Judgment Day Pod with three Ds at gmail.com. Uh and maybe we'll pick up the biggest. And why three Ds, by the way?

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I wanted to ask.

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Why three Ds? The 1D was taken. Okay. And 2D looks like a mistake, and 3D feels intentional. And also we're broadcasting in 3D here in Heffen. Right. A thing I just saw.

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And you love big boobs.

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What?

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Triple D.

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I it's true. I've actually I can't date girls with big boobs anymore.

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Right.

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The heartbreak is too much.

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It's true.

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Because you don't just lose her.

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Well, bigger the boob, bigger the heart.

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Is that how it works? Because you have to pump all the blood?

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Yeah.

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Sorry, just now I'm thinking about boobs.

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Totally.

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You're a first grade teacher teaching five children, but you only have four books. How do you go about deciding which child doesn't get a book?

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What age did you say?

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First grade.

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So they are six. Sharing's caring. They'll share a book.

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They have to it's homework they take home. And none of them can be a good one. Which two are sharing.

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None of them can have a sleepover?

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No, they their parents strict. Sleepover in first grade? I wouldn't trust a child.

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You to do what?

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Steal rummage my belongings.

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Well, not he's not coming home with me. There's sleep a sleepover betwixt them, the students.

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I'm saying the parents, if they're good parents, are not letting a sleepover happen in first grade. Sleepovers happen in first grade.

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I didn't do a sleepover till I guess sleepovers are girl and girl culture.

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Oh, interesting. That's how we're that's how we create. It's five boys.

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Oh god. Okay.

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Five boys, four books.

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Okay, so which one doesn't get the book?

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Which one doesn't get the book? Who are you damning to a life of lesser education?

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Maybe the smartest one, the one that's already like. Wow, interesting. The one that's already doing okay. Doing okay.

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I mean, it feels like He was gonna cure cancer. And he still might have had this book. No.

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We all know first grade education is like pointless.

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It's really more about socializing. Oh, interesting. So important for him to be seen as less than his peers.

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Oh, they all know who doesn't get the book?

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They have eyes.

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Jimmy doesn't have a book.

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How do you assess smartness? So now you've decided to pick smart. I'm not saying that's right.

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Well, I feel like in the schooling system.

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Very utilitarian, very egalitarian.

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In the schooling system, it's we have a sis we have a system that, yeah, is broken.

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You sound like um Betsy DeVos or the new one, the McMahon.

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Or it's like when you're uh when you're there's a system. I don't know much about it. When there's a word count and you're nowhere close.

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There's in our course.

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In our system, there is a system in which there's systemic uh problems. No, I feel like if if there's a straight A student, well, he doesn't knock him down a peg.

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Give him a handicap.

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Well, he doesn't need yeah.

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That's interesting.

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He doesn't he but then it's like, yeah, I guess maybe the one that's not gonna read anyways, maybe he doesn't get the book.

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Oh, interesting. You're going for the the tops or the bottoms.

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But I imagine maybe what teachers are faced with in in today's America.

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Please don't get political. This is not a political podcast.

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I you probably just have to like do your best to do the lesson plan in person and and hopefully not have homework and then be the fucking cool teacher. Wow.

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You're saying we don't need any books. Yeah, actually, no homework. Class is outside today.

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Classes outside today, and I'm bringing a TV. Yes! Okay. I'm bringing a TV outside.

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iPads for class.

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Literally. Oh, we we have we don't have enough books, but we can afford iPads.

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Interesting.

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I would never be a teacher too. This hypothetical doesn't really work.

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Powerful. Um while being a unicorn in a three-way, okay, you discover a stack of letters in the closet.

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Okay.

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The husband has been cheating on his wife.

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By by way of letters?

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Through these letters. Okay. Okay, okay. Do you tell the wife, the husband, do you finish the hookup? What do you do?

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Well, first of all, I read all the letters.

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There's a lot. Yes. You read all the hundred letters.

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If you guys keep going, I'm just gonna use the bathroom really quick. Grab the letters. Go to the bathroom.

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Why?

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I love being nosy.

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Oh my god. You're like, this is why I'm here.

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I used to like dog sit and like read people's journals.

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Do not book Savannah DeSarmo as your dog sitter.

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I only did that once.

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I only did that once. Read their what? Journals. They had them out? Yes. Oh my god, what was the T? Oh, we love our dog sitter. She's so beautiful and good with our dog.

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Um, it honestly was like, well, some of it was hard to read. So she obviously was doing morning pages style where it's like guys, make your journals legible to literally.

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I'm trying to find out.

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I think when I have people sublet from my place, I hide what I don't want to be read.

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One must.

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So if you leave it out, that's for it's basically a coffee table book.

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I had uh an clean an organizer sent to my home. A friend came over, a new rich friend. And then she immediately sent a professional organizer to my home because she said it was too messy. And you do have to slowly hide some of the toys that are in different places. Right. And act like those are.

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You have your toys all over your apartment.

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One was in a drawer, and then I had a prop from a show, which was a replica mold of my own penis that was in kind of a props bag. Okay. She was helping me go through, and we had to kind of hide that one a little quickly.

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I feel like organizers probably know that people have sex toys. That's a good point. She knew what she's gonna say. They've probably seen worse no matter what.

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She was this Russian woman, no nonsense, who's like, Do you want this, that? Yes, no. And then she'd see me struggle a little, she's like, keep. And I was like, Oh my god.

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I like that Marie Kondo. I'm over her. There should be Svetlana comes in and is like and is like, Thrash.

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Yes. Keep. Rather than like, how does it do it? Oh, what is this seems to like? Shut up. Remember when someone got cancelled for critiquing Marie Kondo and Chrissy Teegan? Somebody It was fuck six years ago. Never mind.

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Where were we? Oh, you're reading all the letters.

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I'm reading all the letters. And so they're like Savannah goes. Not telling anyone.

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Now we're just a husband and wife in love in our bed.

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Right. Yeah, I'm sure they're in love.

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You don't tell anyone?

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Yeah, I wouldn't tell anyone. That's not my business.

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Wow. So you want all the tea, but none of the responsibility. Correct. That's good. I'm putting that in your file.

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Okay, for sure.

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Gossip. Dirty, evil gossip who doesn't intervene. Byster when Enabler, enabler, enabler. Enabler, enabler, enabler.

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Yeah.

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Um, we may cut this one. It's kind of weird. I don't know where it goes. You're in a desert and you find a one-year-old baby and a 20-year-old man. You only have enough water to give one of them. Who do you give it to?

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The baby.

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I know. I think that was the answer. But then I wanted like But then you have to take care of the baby. The baby dies, yeah. Like the man could get away. You have to kill the baby, I think.

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Wait. Could get away.

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Like you're just gonna give the baby water and then walk away and leave.

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Oh, I'm not taking the baby with me?

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You are taking the baby with you?

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Well, yeah. I find a baby in the middle of the desert.

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Yeah. But you leave the man?

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Yes.

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Wow.

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Like you said, he has a chance of surviving.

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I think he attacks you and steals your water. How strong?

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Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. There's a bear. So I'm giving I'm giving the man or the bear. I'm giving water to one of them and then the other one I have to kill.

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Ooh, that's kind of good. Yeah. That.

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Um, yeah, I I would I feel like I would give water to the baby and shoot the guy point blank.

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New hypothetical. You encounter a baby and a 20-year-old man. You have to choose to try to kill one.

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Again, I'm not killing a baby.

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But the man might kill you. It's like it's hand-to-hand combat.

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If I don't kill him, he'll kill me. It's this is a bad hypothetical.

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You might die.

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Right.

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It's sort of kill a baby, guaranteed life.

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Yes.

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Or try to kill a man.

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Yes.

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20 year olds old.

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I don't think you realize this is a bad hypothetical, but I I'll go through, I'll go with it.

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You've never done a bad hypothetical minor.

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I would love the opportunity to shoot a man.

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You don't have a gun. It's hand-to-hand combat.

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Oh.

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No weapons.

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So what what are what he's attacking me no matter what?

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No. If you kill the baby, he won't attack. There's two doors, and inside a baby. If you kill his baby is a baby. It's not his baby. Okay. It's someone's baby.

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Okay.

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And a man in the other. You have to go in one door and kill what's inside.

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I'll be honest, I think I could take a 20-year-old guy.

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Really?

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20 years old? Have you seen the testosterone is so down these days. They're all so fucking skinny.

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I could handle a smacking low teeth.

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Literally. Yeah.

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You're gonna mog them.

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I'm gonna out mog that little twink.

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You take on the twin. Okay. I'm proud of you.

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Thank you.

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That was kind of beautiful.

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And then I'd shoot the baby.

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All right, Savannah. Let's get to some confessions. You've said that you can do bad, good. Let's hear about when you've done bad, down, bad.

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Bad, bad. Good bad.

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This is where we talk about again. We have all this information on you already. We have a list of all your murders that you may or may not have cheating, lying, stealing. These are just things. If you confess it, it hurts less than your permanent record.

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I have a question.

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Yes.

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When I was at Christian Slip Slepaway Camp.

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Sounds like a statement. In Arkansas. So far a statement.

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My counselor told me that from the viewpoint of God up above.

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All sins are equal.

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All sins are equal. Like Oreos stacked. So one Oreo versus ten Oreos from his point of view looks like one Oreo.

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So if you did one sin versus a hundred sin.

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Or a s or small sin versus big sin. Oh my God. Premarital sex, murder.

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Are all the same. Jesus, that's a rich visual.

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I know. I it's so rich I've never, it's the only thing I remember from camp.

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As someone who to forced their mother to take them to the local grocery store for the Oreo stacking competition.

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No.

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National.

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Oh.

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That the store did not know anything about when we arrived. It's like, hi, I'm supposed to be able to stack Oreos here. How'd you send this? It was on the packaging and advertised on television in local markets. And so I went Across the Nation? Across the nation. And I think I stacked like 10, no, probably eight Oreos. Ten it starts to do that.

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Do you remember Speed Stacks? Did you have those? Yeah. Oh, yeah. Think of that with Oreos.

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Once every other week I'm watching that girl.

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I got a ticket for the line. No, that's different. That's different. But shot whiskey and money. And you said every week, by the way?

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Every month or so.

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You're re checking in with.

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No, it finds its way to me. Like I'm like a child coming to the city. The algorithm you try to do. Like the prodigal speed stacking.

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That's that's amazing.

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What a rich visual. Yeah. Okay. And way to dodge the questions.

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I'm wondering if that's true. Can you can you confirm or deny if she was telling the truth?

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Sins, I mean, technically one sin, you go to hell. But according to who?

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No, you can confess and then it goes away.

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Well, you have to We wouldn't have a show if we didn't talk about all the sins equally. Okay. It's kind of it's similar to the Oreos, but we don't God's gonna pick one of your Oreos and At random. At random.

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Russian roulette.

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And the more you confess the Oreo, the smaller it gets. Okay. Oreos are sin.

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So you just want me to confess all of my sins. Big or small.

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So the big ones. Okay. I mean, ideally the funniest one. I st I we don't know what's funny yet. Because it might become funny.

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I mean, com the thing about being a comedian is you should be able to make the mundane funny, but here we go. Wait, is that what it was? Write that down, write that down.

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Have you ever have you I you don't seem like a what percentage evil are you?

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I feel like that's subjective.

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That's the most annoying answer to any question. I feel subjective.

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I feel like that's a subjective question.

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How are you today?

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That's subjective. I'll say 40, 40. Is that big? 40% evil? 30?

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30% evil?

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What number would make you less than a little bit?

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I feel like if it's over 10, I'm not going on a road trip with you.

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I don't think you're dying to go on a road trip with me.

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We would we have talked about going on the amazing race. We which is the ultimate road. The way you said that was great delivery. The ultimate road trip. Ultimate road trip. Oh.

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In our audition video, we're gonna clip this out.

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Oh, that's fun. Savannah and I have known each other for over two years and have a pre-existing relationship and are excited to test it on the open fields.

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We want to go to Bali, we want to jump off a cliff and then run into the arms of the host.

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I'm not doing the skydiving. Yeah, we've been over this. Yes. Okay.

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We've we've been over this. That's right.

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I won't skydive, bungee jumps.

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I'm more likely to do the thrilling things, and then you can ask for directions.

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Yes.

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No, wait, actually, I said you would actually be bad at that as well.

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You do other languages.

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But you're more in shape than me.

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Stop. Keep going. That means you're gonna hold us back when we're running to the finish line.

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Physically, I might hold us back. I can but I can jump off cliffs and I can I can get a driver to go quicker.

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Oh, from your feminine wiles.

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Yeah.

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I'm like George.

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His tongue's out of his mouth.

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Keep those girls away. Of course. God will not be lured. No tits, no tits in heaven. That would be so sad. Everyone gets a double vasectomy when they arrive.

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Wait, is it that there's the absence of tits in heaven because there's no sexuality? Or if heaven is heavenly, everyone would have tits.

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Oh. You know what I mean? I should know the answer to this. But I never look down. I haven't looked.

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Right?

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I'm so pure up here. I'm not looking down to see who's got what.

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My eyes are down here.

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My God's eyes are everywhere.

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I'm 10% evil, just like you said.

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No, I feel like it's like 17% evil. You're very sneakily dodging confessing your sins.

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Can I say away with conversation?

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You got away with words to weasel your way in and out of things.

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I feel like in love you've done some hurtful things to people. Um biggest regret.

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People hurt people. How about that?

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Oh. Powerful defense.

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I think I hold my own. I was gonna say I steal.

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No, you don't.

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Yeah, I do.

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I feel like everyone we've booked so far has a theft story.

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What are you stealing? Um, I steal makeup.

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Oh my god. Like from Walgreens or from Sephora?

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Um, well, Sephora has better makeup.

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You're stealing from Sephora?

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But here's my trick.

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But here's my trick is I think you get all that you want, put it in a bag, steal half of it, and pay for the other half.

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This is interesting. I do think it's sort of building your own discount into the And it's all over in.

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Kate Berlant has a famous joke about this, but it's like if as women we're sold that our value is based on our beauty from the get, how are they to charge us for this? This is like you know, I think some of it should be free. Comped.

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That's interesting.

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I'm more likely to get a job if I'm wearing makeup than if I'm not.

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Oh wow. That's crazy.

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I'm more likely likely to get laid if I'm wearing makeup.

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More likely to get booked on this podcast.

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Literally. You think I wasn't I was gonna come here without a cat eye?

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You look incredible. Think here. Your eyes look amazing. Except the bangs. And your bangs exist and they matter, and they're real.

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That's true.

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To me and you.

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Yeah.

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Wait, uh so women are allowed to steal makeup. Yeah. What can men steal? What are uh condoms?

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Yeah, that's what I was kind of thinking.

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Yeah.

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Steal condoms. Condoms can get expensive.

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Maybe free therapy for the boys.

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Because the patriarchy affects men too.

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Yeah.

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We're you're f you're you're fooled if you think not. Like emotionally broken. Like we don't get to express ourselves. We we get to steal men get to steal art supplies. Yeah. What? Books. Wow. But those don't exist anymore.

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Exactly. Well, you could just get a library card.

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How much makeup do you think you've stolen in your entire life?

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It's also Target.

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You do it at Target? Yeah.

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And somebody told how much makeup? Well, this isn't fair because like the price, it's like it is expensive. Because makeup's expensive.

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You just want to let name it in units, like 10 makeups.

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Right. Um, probably like Is it gonna be grand larceny?

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Would you not confess this?

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Yeah, maybe not. No, I mean it's like under 50.

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When did you dollars?

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Units. And the unit is a full The thing with Target. A friend of mine told me that Target, it's like if you steal one thing.

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They don't care.

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They're not gonna get you tracked. But they have secrets, especially with AI, they have they have secret cameras all around and they're waiting for you to steal enough merchandise, and they get they get you every time they're building a dossier on you, and then when you cross the threshold and you've gone over, let's say, 50 units of things. So you're staying right under you've got I think that that's a a lie by Big Target, that they've been slowly disseminating into culture because you've heard that, right? About that they're building specifically Target.

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Target, I think yes. Yeah. Maybe Target and Walmart. They won't go after the little guys with too much effort.

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Exactly, which is true. They will only go over after the big guys, but I think that that's a lie and that they're not gonna, they're not building a fan cam of me stealing candles. But I haven't stolen from Target yet. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like to Slater's, like, Craig it!

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Slater has a lot of Ys in her name, and you don't call that out, but you didn't like the D's in my email. That was a long way to go for that cheap little jab. Did you know I worked at Target? That was my first job out of school. Really? Not out of school, in school. I could see the guest services. And I wanted to work guest services, the returns counter. Uh, but they put me on cart duty and I felt discriminated against because I was this strapping 16-year-old lad that they may do physical management.

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I'm sure you have to work your way up to being able to stand in one place.

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Yes. I got trained on Food Avenue when they used to have popcorn before the Starbucks. They had popcorn? Target used to smell like popcorn. People forget this.

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They used to have samples.

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It was disgusting and it reeked when you walked in and it was not fancy. Now it's a now they're Starbuckses. They sold, I think it was no, they sold popcorn.

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You can get free refills, you know that.

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I mean, with you, you can get free everything, it sounds like everything's free in the store.

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You get a Starbucks in Target, and as you shop, you finish that drink. Go back to Starbucks and you'll get free refills. And don't quote me on that, by the way.

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No gold car member, you get free iced coffee and hot tea hot. Free from the beginning. If you stay in the same location.

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Okay. Can you leave and come back?

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No. New transactions.

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You have to go, you have to get it, take a knee, chug it, then you can go back. Then you can go back and get a refill.

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So you're but we I watched, I watched an employee get taken out in handcuffed. She had been doing some kind of weird stealing for months and months and months.

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Well, I'm sure the employees are not allowed to be able to do that.

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No, that's frowned upon.

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The customers can steal that.

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The company could steal, though. They were stealing my labor by paying me five dollars and twenty-five cents an hour.

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Not just your labor, your time and your youth. It was awful. Yeah.

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I but I did like talking to people. It helped socialize me, I think.

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Right. Well, and this is where this is what I mean where you'll fail in amazing race because you'll go to ask a guy uh for directions, and then you'll end up talking about like attachment theories with some guy in in Taiwan.

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Sorry, I connect.

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Yeah, yeah. You're building community and I'm trying to win.

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Yeah. You see people as tools on your way towards fame and success and fortune. I'm here building a grassroots collective.

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Right. You need to build fans for your project.

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To win the real amazing race, you get everyone in the world to love you, and then they um kind of carry you, crowd surf you to the finish line.

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Right, right, right.

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If you have enough people on your side, you can win that race.

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Right.

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What if better Amazing Race? You run the race, and then they're at the end, they have a jury of everyone you interacted with and they vote on who deserves it. How kind they were to the locals.

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I think all the time about like who's gonna be at my deathbed.

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Can I?

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May I?

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I I've got a three percent chance, I think. I go first.

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Well, so much time has to pass. I know. But I think I mean it's possible.

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Yeah, we've started kind of hot.

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Too hot, too hot.

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Yeah, it's more like too hot to handle log, yeah. Who's gonna be? Mom? Well no, mom's mom's gonna be gone. Sorry.

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Sorry.

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Little sis.

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Well, we don't know that actually.

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You are grooming little sis to be at your bedside.

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No, not just that. Like, I'm not planning on having kids as of now. So, like, she's also gonna like care for me.

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It's gonna be a select invite. It's gonna be a short RSVP list.

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I think I'll have I think I have I think I have a great chosen family.

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Oh, but not a lesbian.

SPEAKER_03

Not a lesbian.

SPEAKER_01

Interesting. Not in full. Yeah, you're using that phrase. You're by?

SPEAKER_03

Just lesbians are allowed to use chosen family?

SPEAKER_01

I think anyone in the oh god.

SPEAKER_03

It's only for it's only for queer community.

SPEAKER_01

I think only cis gay men get to say chosen family. Everybody can. And say it. Choose your family. All right, Savannah. It's time for the lightning round. All right. We've seen your good deeds, your bad deeds. Your dilemmas. Okay, gotcha. That's all. Maybe. Um. Or I was just reading the vibe. Well, you can go back if you need to say there's something.

SPEAKER_03

I did one other bad thing.

SPEAKER_01

There'll be time. Let's let's see how you do with the Okay, yeah, go. Now you need to send some things to heaven or hell.

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Okay.

SPEAKER_01

Instantly. Okay. Should the following things go to heaven or hell?

SPEAKER_03

Okay.

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Jeff Bezos.

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Hell.

SPEAKER_01

Correct. Spirit Airlines.

SPEAKER_03

Heaven.

SPEAKER_01

Oh wow, change of tune. Lena Dunham.

SPEAKER_03

Heaven.

SPEAKER_01

Met Gala.

SPEAKER_03

Hell.

SPEAKER_01

Correct. Coinbase. I don't actually know what Coinbase is. That's the one that had the Super Bowl commercial. Oh, okay. Are they AI? I think, yeah. Did you get it? AI or crypto or something. Saying hey, before giving bad news. Over text? Yes. Hey, exclamation point. Hey, it's not gonna work out. That's hell. That's hell. Good. Jury duty.

SPEAKER_03

The show?

SPEAKER_01

No, what I'm on right now and can't talk about.

SPEAKER_03

Um I love the democratic process, so heaven.

SPEAKER_01

Well, you think that and then you're through. It's it's very What kind of case is it?

SPEAKER_03

Murder? I can't say. I'm not allowed to say uh hell.

SPEAKER_01

Um because you want me to. Oh wow, civic duties. Yeah, doing your civic duties that's jury duty goes to heaven.

SPEAKER_03

What are other civic duties?

SPEAKER_01

I don't voting.

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Roading.

SPEAKER_01

Voting. Voting? Yeah. Heaven, even though I think it's uh-oh, hot take. No vote?

SPEAKER_03

I've I vote, but I feel like it doesn't do anything.

SPEAKER_01

Survivor 50. I don't watch how Survivor 500.

SPEAKER_03

That sounds exciting.

SPEAKER_01

So far in the future. People saying they're gonna buy their mom a house if they win on a reality TV competition.

SPEAKER_03

Heaven. You have to.

SPEAKER_01

I think that goes to hell. It's so annoying.

SPEAKER_03

So you if we win Amazing Race, you're not gonna buy your mom a house. The only I don't have a house?

SPEAKER_01

I don't like that I don't have a family and everyone says they're playing for their family. Right.

SPEAKER_03

But I think it's because producers make them say that. Interesting. One of us has to be playing for our family.

SPEAKER_01

So I are you playing for? Your little sister. Myself. Does she does anyone? Do you have an illness? Wait. We can be playing for your bangs. We're here to get Savannah uh monthly cuts for bangs.

SPEAKER_03

Exactly.

SPEAKER_01

That's kind of fun. The self-centered winners.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, there's gotta be one.

SPEAKER_01

Wait, a million divided by two for taxes, divided by two between us.

SPEAKER_03

Right. It's only 125. No, it's not good.

SPEAKER_01

That's a a year or two of life.

SPEAKER_03

Right. But in that time, we'll have time to build our empire.

SPEAKER_01

Oh. And invest in the world. We become content creators. Right. We your funeral is happening live now on Earth. Okay. Did you know this? And we've got uh we've got uh uh audio file from Earth. We're clicking in. This is uh Lorena.

SPEAKER_03

Lorena?

SPEAKER_01

Lorena Rusi has an exciting message for why you belong in heaven.

SPEAKER_00

Oh my god. Evan Savannah Desarmo deverie because it's more linda, linda, linda si. Linda, linda, linda si on create contigo and create a goal un gol, goal, goal, goal para Colombia. But Sabana Desarmo in El Cielo, aka Evan.

SPEAKER_01

I don't speak Spanish, so I can only assume that was all bad. Minus 500 point. Do you speak Spanish?

SPEAKER_03

I don't.

SPEAKER_01

Wait, really? No! I thought at least you would translate pretty much.

SPEAKER_03

I heard Linda, Linda, Linda. We know what that means. Linda means pretty.

SPEAKER_01

No, it doesn't.

SPEAKER_03

Yes, it does. That's a girl's name. Well.

SPEAKER_01

Linda means pretty? Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_03

That's sweet. Yes. So I think I think he called me pretty at one point.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, you want to be pretty. Or that's what you belong in heaven, because you're so pretty, pretty, pretty.

SPEAKER_03

Well, like you said, aesthetics aren't a fun factor.

SPEAKER_01

You're our our heaven's next bombshell.

SPEAKER_03

Coming right in. A new bombshell. You into heaven.

SPEAKER_01

You wanted to get some final, you had a final thing you needed to get off your bag.

SPEAKER_03

I don't need to keep talking if it's over.

SPEAKER_01

But this is your last chance. Of other things I've done wrong? Or not.

SPEAKER_03

One time an ex, I was mad about an ex. Oh no. And I signed him up for. You know when you can sign up for have you ever accidentally signed up for more information from an online insurance page?

SPEAKER_01

Never. Well, if you don't believe in insurance.

SPEAKER_03

Right. If you do, they will call you forever, every hour, for months.

SPEAKER_01

No.

SPEAKER_03

And you just have to ignore it for months. And eventually they go away. So I signed him up for seven of those.

SPEAKER_01

No, poor guy. How was he in the relationship? He deserved this.

SPEAKER_03

You know, I felt wronged. I felt sad. I felt mad. And at first I was like, Savannah, are you gonna do this? This feels petty. But then I did it and I felt so good.

SPEAKER_01

Did he ever catch on?

SPEAKER_03

I don't know. I don't think so.

SPEAKER_01

Wow. That's that's that's vengeance.

SPEAKER_03

That feels it's like that feels good. This feels doing bad good because I didn't want to inflict actual harm on him. I just wanted like paper cuts. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Have I ever done something that petty?

SPEAKER_02

No.

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Okay.

SPEAKER_01

When my when I moved out for my ex, I took the sheets. That was petty. I had to move. You wanted the sheets? No, but I wanted him they were mine, and I wanted him to come home to a bed without sheets to be slightly inconvenienced for breaking my heart. I do remember that.

SPEAKER_03

Did you wash them? Did you keep using them? Or did you just trash them?

SPEAKER_01

I cried into them every night. Right. No, I think I probably knowing me, I definitely didn't wash them.

SPEAKER_03

I think it would have been better to take the sheets, put them in the tub, douse them in water, like make them wet, and then put them back on.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, that's sinister. Yeah. Wait, your evil mind.

SPEAKER_03

You know where I got that from? Is my great-great grandmother, her house was haunted by a ghost.

SPEAKER_01

Okay. This is in the in New Orleans or Louisiana.

SPEAKER_03

In Louisiana, yeah, but in the country. And uh she had a little ghost in there, and he would like, when she was doing laundry, he would like make the laundry go up while she's folding. And then one time she went in her to her bed and the the mattress was wet and nothing else.

SPEAKER_01

From the ghost?

SPEAKER_03

From the ghost, they assume. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Well, the the ghost like pee on the bed or no, I mean I don't think.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, spilled some water.

SPEAKER_01

That's evil.

SPEAKER_03

I think it's you know, it's kind of just like a poltergeist. It was just like a little rascally little ghost. Anyways, that's what you should have under your ex.

SPEAKER_01

Going back in time to do that to him now.

SPEAKER_03

I'm gonna kill you.

SPEAKER_01

Alright, Savannah. Wait, I did have one other little game. Sorry, you talked so much about nothing. No, it's fine. I wrote down I said fun.

SPEAKER_03

I said, um, greed, I have that, I do that one. You got that one. Sloth, I have that one.

SPEAKER_01

You got the sloth.

SPEAKER_03

Envy. I think jealousy can be a good thing. You can reframe it.

SPEAKER_01

Comedian New York means greed, sloth, and envy. Yeah, exactly. It's all happening.

SPEAKER_03

I lie, I do lie sometimes. I think toxic honesty is is true.

SPEAKER_01

That's a real thing. Being too honest.

SPEAKER_03

No, I don't think it's a sin, but I think like honest pure unadulterated honesty.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, is toxic.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, it can be you sometimes sometimes withholding truth can be.

SPEAKER_01

Like right now, the curtain is blue, but I'm not saying it.

SPEAKER_03

Right.

SPEAKER_01

Maybe that's a bad example. Like, like your bangs look terrible. And I haven't said that.

SPEAKER_03

Right. And you've said it.

SPEAKER_01

But I've alluded to it. Your bangs look beautiful, and so are you.

SPEAKER_03

Kill, kill, Linda, Linda, Linda.

SPEAKER_01

We don't have time for this. Kill, kill, kill.

SPEAKER_03

Okay.

SPEAKER_01

Mother Teresa, Martin Luther King Jr., and the Buddha.

SPEAKER_03

And I have to kill them all.

SPEAKER_01

Uh, you have to select which goes with which, and it's kill, kill, or kill Mother Teresa, Martin Luther King Jr., and the Buddha.

SPEAKER_03

I'm not gonna have you clip me clip clipping. Kill Mother Teresa. And what were the other options?

SPEAKER_01

Martin Luther King Jr.

SPEAKER_03

What was the other option?

SPEAKER_01

The Buddha.

SPEAKER_03

Kill him. Oh, wow. No, I think Buddhism is actually the best religion there is.

SPEAKER_01

Hot take. Yeah. I think most people agree.

SPEAKER_03

Oh, didn't know that. So cold take. Cold take.

SPEAKER_01

They all go to hell though. I think that the Buddhists, unfortunately.

SPEAKER_03

Even if they're a good Christian by definition.

SPEAKER_01

And a Buddhist? Yeah. Show me one. Bring him in. Get you a man who can do both. If now it's time for your Scrooge moment. If you could go back to Earth right now and do one thing differently, what are you gonna do differently?

SPEAKER_03

Um I would pursue a life, a simple life, away from New York City, not pursuing the evil.

SPEAKER_01

This brings out your evil.

SPEAKER_03

New York City brings out my evil, and having to give all of my evenings away to being in a dark corner of a bar performing my my art.

SPEAKER_01

I think we just learned something. And you should put that into effect immediately.

SPEAKER_03

Okay.

SPEAKER_01

I'm gonna send this off to God. One second. Um please sing the latest Brooks and Dunn song into the camera while I give this to God.

SPEAKER_03

Mammaria. I don't know the rest.

SPEAKER_01

God said, please stop. You're You're in! I got in! You got in heaven.

SPEAKER_03

Asterisk. Okay.

SPEAKER_01

You can't, you're not allowed to sing anymore. Okay. And you do, we need bangs.

SPEAKER_03

You need the bangs.

SPEAKER_01

The bangs need to be trimmed. You need a strong bang. God wants a strong bang.

SPEAKER_03

Uh like Matilda.

SPEAKER_01

God wants you to look just like Matilda when you get into heaven.

SPEAKER_03

Okay. So that's what he's into.

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You've been a you've been a you did bad good. And no one cannot do bad. But to do bad good and to do good good is love. Genesis 419.

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It's love, it's love, it's love, it's love, it's love.

SPEAKER_01

Thanks for tuning in to Judgment Day with our delightful guest, Savannah DeSarmo. Please follow her in that huge rack online. What's your handle, baby?

SPEAKER_03

At Savannah D-E-S-O.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, it's the best. Um, you post stand-up clips and stuff? I do.

SPEAKER_03

I post clips and funny videos and she's a delight. Stuff like that.

SPEAKER_01

We I did want to ask the when we did a show together in New Orleans for four people. And did that benefit or hurt society? Do we think that was a net positive?

SPEAKER_03

I think it was actually a very good show. I liked that one better than the other one with more people.

SPEAKER_01

Less is more.

SPEAKER_03

Less is more. And then there was the one, which one was it where it was like the woman that kept saying hello?

SPEAKER_01

Oh god, I forgot about her. Hello. She talked the whole time. I had enough time to leave when other people were on stage, and I think I bought her like a pacifier from the Walgreens and gave it to her in order to silence her. She was just kept saying, Hello.

SPEAKER_03

Hello. Hello. You would say a punchline right before people started laughing. She'd go, uh hello. So she got the laughs.

SPEAKER_01

She stole those sweet laps from me. And you didn't do that today. Thanks for tuning into Judgment Day. Please subscribe, like, follow, comment, etc., etc. Email Judgment Day pod with 3Ds with your ethical quandaries, and we'll answer them on the show. You've been a delight. Thanks for supporting the pod, and we'll see you next time in heaven with other people dying.