Rock Influencers

We dive deep into the world of classic rock discovery, from the legendary influence of Ian Gillan and Arthur Brown to rare vinyl finds, forgotten bands, and the magic of analog sound. The crew swaps stories about warped records, vintage turntables, collecting hidden gems, and rediscovering artists like Todd Rundgren, John Mayall, and Lou Reed while celebrating the passion that keeps vinyl culture alive. 

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Transcript

SPEAKER_01 0:06

Welcome to episode four of In the Name of Wax. Today's conversation was recorded on January 25th, 2026, where we discussed rock influencers such as Ian Gellen and Arthur Brown. Let's get started.

SPEAKER_03 0:19

Well, I've got the this day in history if we want to start there.

SPEAKER_01 0:22

Yeah, go for it.

SPEAKER_03 0:24

Okay. Today born was uh Doug Kershaw, 1936, Ray Stevens, 1941, Neil Diamond, 1944, Warren Savon, one of my favorite artists, 1947. He died way too young, too. And then also John Belushi was born today. James Shepard from Okay, from the Limelights, I don't even know that bad. But then they put this in, they put this at the end, and I'm like, why did you even have to put that? It says he was found in his car beaten. He was beaten to death in his car. I'm like, usually people that die, they don't put like how they died, especially like that. But anyway, today was the first day that gold was found in California. Talk about go talk about gold mine in 1848. And on this day, uh the Beatles signed their management contract with Brian Epstein in 1962, and on this day, the last Buddy Holly tour starts.

SPEAKER_01 1:30

Um I've heard that name Brian Epstein before.

SPEAKER_03 1:33

Yeah, he's a manager of the Beatles. He was a first manager. I don't know how he was the I don't know how long. I'm not sure about that. But yeah, he was a Beatles manager, smart guy.

SPEAKER_00 1:44

Uh Epstein was also the manager for C-Train. First C-Train album was uh the first album that Brian Epstein produced after working with the Beatles.

SPEAKER_04 1:56

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 1:59

Well, yeah, some of those managers probably manage a few different bands. I mean, if you got the Beatles, you're gonna want to put all your focus pretty much on them, I would think. But but yeah. Yeah, that'd be an interesting job. A lot of these, um, and I've just kind of reading about different bands and stuff. There's a lot of times where like somebody was in a band, but then they turned into a manager of another band. They kind of went a different direction, kind of in the same field.

SPEAKER_01 2:27

Eric, why don't you uh start us off with the mission statement?

SPEAKER_03 2:29

Yeah, yeah, yeah. To be fair to everything, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 2:32

Yes. All right, in the name of Wax, it is an exclusive record club for music lovers of the analog format through sharing experiences, memories, discoveries, and emotions tied to the albums. Our goal is to build continued appreciation for forgotten bands and members by understanding more of their histories and connections. We reinforce our bond with club members for love of the groove. Amen.

SPEAKER_03 2:55

Yes, love of the groove. Yeah, I'm uh I mean I was thinking about that just like in the last good day or two, and still, like, you know, like mechanically, it's like I know how it works, or uh, you know, playing records and whatever. And but when the when the needle drops and the music, it's still like magic when that happens. It's like I it's still kind of like I can't believe this is making this music or whatever.

SPEAKER_01 3:24

It it does feel magic how a little needle can vibrate, you know, at a micro level, you know, across a groove and make music.

SPEAKER_03 3:33

Yeah, yeah. And yeah, I mean, just hearing it's just it's just like magic happening when the needle drops, and it's like, I mean, there's always gonna be like that feeling.

SPEAKER_01 3:42

I I was actually shocked, it wasn't long ago where I realized if you turn down the the uh music level on your receiver, but you put your ear next to the needle, you can actually hear the music just like resonating right off the record and right off a needle. Like I just yeah, yeah, exploded out of my brain. I didn't realize you could do that. Yep.

SPEAKER_03 4:05

Yeah, I know. Yeah, that happens when I accidentally forget to turn the receiver on. I'm like, why isn't this any louder? Well, I just had two, I had uh an artist and a band. Um, so I'll talk about the artist first. Um and he's he's somebody that both you guys both you guys will know, I'm I'm sure. Okay. I got I pulled out three, I have three of his albums. It was he was on his own then when he did these albums. Or his own, he left his other band. Well, he's been in a couple other bands, but and I I don't think I'd have ever listened to these records, and I'm like, and it's kind of funny because they're on three different labels. Uh one I really like, the other two not really so much until I listened to them again. But yeah, they're they're they're very good. Anyway, this guy was he's English, um born in 1945. Um he was influenced by Elvis Presley, which a lot of people back then would say that. Um he'd he'd been in several bands, uh well, local bands back then, and he let's see. Uh let's see here. Okay, genre, well yeah, hard rock, heavy metal, jazz fusion, prog rock.

SPEAKER_04 5:35

Um let's see here, where's I go?

SPEAKER_03 5:43

Um well, I mean, it's you know, he started out, you know teenage bands, you know, kind of like a lot of those. The band he joined, he had a band when he was a kid, younger, and they're playing covers of Sonny Boy Williamson, Chuck Barry, Ray Lee Lewis, and Little Richard. Let's see. Looks like one of the guys he played with way back then ended up being one of the members of the band's suite. I didn't notice that before. Um, well, okay, it talks about him when he's in the one band and how successful they were. I'm just kind of getting into like more. It's not like, okay, here this is gonna be, okay. Uh Eric, don't, Eric, don't say anything because you're gonna know who this is, but by what I say, but I don't know if Justin will. Okay, this art, one of the art, one of these three records that I listened to, it was like, he's like screaming the lyrics. I'm like, you know, I didn't really like it. I'm like, God, what's what's this guy gotta scream all this stuff for? And then I read this in in the description about him. The guy he was most uh inspired by, he said, This guy changed my life because he told me to incorporate screaming in my style. Okay. Now I'll say this, and just Justin will be able to find out who it is if he doesn't know who it is. But this guy introduced himself to the world as the God of Hellfire. And Eric knows because he comes out, he comes right out and says it in the song, I am the god of hellfire. And if you Google who's the god of hellfire, he pops up right away. Uh anyway, so I thought, well, that's why he's screaming in this record because of him. Okay, anyway, uh let's see, get down into his band. Um, okay, it talks about his three band three three albums he put out. Um I'm gonna get down to Okay. Well, I'll I'll tell you one hint. Let me see here. Wait a sec. Uh okay. Seems like there's something else. Um I'll tell you. Okay, I'll tell you. Okay. He did put out 20, let's see, one, two, three. Oh, okay. 17 hours. Okay, he was a member of Black Sabbath, put it that way.

SPEAKER_01 8:17

Yep. Ozzie Osborne.

SPEAKER_03 8:20

No, it's not Ozzy. What? It's not Ozzie. Um, let's see here.

SPEAKER_01 8:26

Yeah, because I never I never heard Ozzy say I'm the god of hellfire. But then when you mentioned all the albums, and then Black Sabbath, I'm like, oh, it's gotta be Ozzie, but uh now you have my attention.

SPEAKER_03 8:39

Yeah, yeah. I knew that would get your attention, but let me just make sure here, because I think he he was the only Black Sabbath album he was on was Born Again. So that eliminates a lot right there. And Born Again was 83.

SPEAKER_04 8:54

83, right, right.

SPEAKER_01 8:56

Is it the guy that replaced Ozzy?

SPEAKER_04 9:00

No.

SPEAKER_01 9:01

No.

SPEAKER_04 9:02

Nope.

SPEAKER_03 9:02

I Do you know who it is? Do you think you know who it is, Eric? Yes, I do know who it is. Okay. What other band was he with?

SPEAKER_00 9:10

Well, I just know like the well, we we actually just mentioned it a little bit.

SPEAKER_03 9:14

Oh, you mean oh you mean the screaming guy? Okay, okay. No, I thought you meant okay. Sorry about that. My mistake there. Well, I'll just I'll just say the other band he was with was Deep Purple.

SPEAKER_00 9:24

Do you know it just no, I don't. Uh Ian Gillen. Okay.

SPEAKER_03 9:28

Yep. Yep. Ian Gillen. And the three the three albums I got, the uh Child Child in Time is my favorite one. And then this Scar, I don't know, I thought it was Suckabus when I first read it, but it's like Scarbus or Scarabus. And that's really good too. And then Glory Road by Ian Gillen. So I had these three Ian Gillen albums, and I mean, well, he was with Deep Purple for a long time, and then he, you know, he did the one with Black Sabbath, and then he he did his own band for quite a while, and then he went on his own. So it was kind of cool. I was, you know, I had these albums for a while. I just kind of never got around to listening to them, so I finally listened to them, and it kind of led me to learn more about them, so that was good.

SPEAKER_00 10:18

Have you heard have you heard Born Again, Jerry?

SPEAKER_03 10:22

Um, I that's one I don't have. Um, my son Nick has that one. Um, I just thought it had a cool cover, but well, actually, I gave it to Nick. But yeah, I have not heard Born Again. Uh it's very good.

SPEAKER_00 10:38

I mean, if you like Deep Purple and you like Black Sabbath, I mean it's literally it's it's very, very good. It's different. I mean, if there's some parts where it's it it's different than Sabbath than they're normally sound, but obviously with having a different singer will change the sound. But yeah, exactly. Yeah. I really enjoy it. I mean, but I also love deep purple as well, so it's like I think it's a really unique combination of Ian Gillen with like Iomie and Butler, and yeah, it's it's great.

SPEAKER_03 11:06

Yeah, yeah. So I mean, he I think he's still, let's see, I don't want to solo activity. I mean, he kind of he did a lot of stuff. Um uh he was in a he was in a supergroup called uh uh called Who Cares. And that was in like 2009. I mean, he's he's performed at the you know Philharmonic Orchestra in Armenia. I mean, I think he's probably still going.

SPEAKER_00 11:42

I believe they are still going. I think they just released Deep Purple like officially released like another album a couple of years ago.

SPEAKER_03 11:48

Um with Ian Gillett? Oh, really?

SPEAKER_00 11:52

Wow. I would s I'd like to say maybe it was like up to like two or three years ago they made another album. And it sounds good.

SPEAKER_03 11:59

Yeah, it looks like with Deep Purple. Um he looks like he did one in in 2024. Also 2021 and 2020. Well, yeah, he did 20, he did he was with Deep Purple for the longest of anything, other than it well, his own band was quite a bit too, and then he went solo without his band. So yeah, any anything with Ian Gillen on, it's probably gonna be good. So I'm glad I got those three albums. Oh, thank you. Yeah, and and you can um I don't know who the uh the God of health, do you? Uh no, I don't. I do. Uh yeah. Well, we talked about him already today. Yep. Uh Arthur Brown.

SPEAKER_01 12:45

Arthur Brown.

SPEAKER_03 12:46

He Yeah, and there's probably a lot of people that don't know who Arthur Brown is, but I mean, he's actually influenced way a lot of people that I mean. Yeah. He Arthur Brown's had his i influence a lot of different directions.

SPEAKER_00 13:03

Yeah. He uh he influenced um Alice Cooper big time. He kind of like started like shock rock. Like he would go on stage with like stilts and he would like light his he would had something that he would wear on his head and he'd light his head on fire while wearing stilts and he would dress in these weird, almost like horror gothic outfits in the 60s, so he would be very expressive in his stage presentation, but musically he also had a very unique range. He had like a four or five octave vocal range. Yeah, he could he could say he could sing opera, which was really unheard of during that time. So he was uh he was a uh mover and a shaker of music and what male vocals, male vocalists can do and what they're willing to do. Uh so he was uh kind of started the shock rock and also the like wearing of makeup, like he started that. Uh so I think Kiss was influenced heavily by him, uh by the stage presence and use of fire and things like that. All that goes back to Arthur Brown.

SPEAKER_03 14:12

Yeah. Yeah, he would dress up like a voodoo cannibal and stuff, and you know, have bones hanging on him. And and I just saw uh uh either a picture or a video or something, but he still this was like I think in 2025, he was on stage. I mean, he hit a bunch of feathers on him and stuff, but he still had the the hat with fire coming out of it on his head.

SPEAKER_04 14:35

Yep.

SPEAKER_03 14:36

And he has his and he has his own band too, uh Kingdom Come.

SPEAKER_00 14:41

Kingdom Come, yep, that's the name of the band.

SPEAKER_03 14:43

Don't get it mixed up. There's another group called Kingdom Come that is totally not what you not that so make sure it's Arthur Brown. But I've got one Kingdom Come album, but those things are hard to come by. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 14:56

Yeah, this is cool.

SPEAKER_03 14:57

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 14:58

And wasn't okay, so Kingdom Come, that might have been who I was thinking of. I was thinking Family was the name of the band that Yeah, I don't think it's family, yeah. Maybe the name of the album was Family. Maybe that's what it was. I thought there was something about that in there, but I could be wrong.

SPEAKER_03 15:16

Yeah. Well, I think as far as uh Al Arthur Brown's Kingdom Come, I think they did three albums.

unknown 15:23

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 15:24

From uh the last I think so I was able to actually sit and listen to records yesterday, which was really enjoyable, and I just started like digging into the uh recent uh hauls that I've been getting. So a lot of these they were uh not bad. Some were blind listens, some were uh bands I was familiar with. Um the first record that I want to talk about um I don't know if this'll be one that'll be guessable necessarily. Uh they only did two albums from what I can read about them. Um I'll just talk about this record. Um the the band is called Moonrider. Uh it was 1975, and it was released on Anchor Records.

SPEAKER_04 16:12

Anchor.

SPEAKER_00 16:13

I don't know that I know that label. Yeah, so this is what I'm just finding out on them now. Uh there isn't a Wikipedia page on the band, but just from what I've been able to find is uh Moonrider, they were an English rustic rock band that released the self-titled album on a small anchor, small press Anchor Records in 1975. The band featured ex-Tomorrow vocalist Keith West and once Oliver and future attractions bassist Bruce Thomas. So I I've I have uh one record of tomorrow, so curio I'll be curious to see if uh Keith West is on that album as well.

SPEAKER_03 16:53

Okay. Where are these guys from? Uh they're if you don't know no idea, I just wanted to I can't see that.

SPEAKER_00 17:02

Just this is a little bit more about like the members of the or the uh history of the band and the members. Uh the band developed uh ties between Keith West and guitarist John uh Weeder, who worked through uh the former 1974 solo album uh Where My Love Goes, which marked a ruralistic uh ruralized turn from the former tomorrow vocalist. The guitarist himself had an extensive background with stints with the animals and the family, as well as brief appearances with Stud. So Family, I think he wasn't that um the other group that had Arthur Brown in it was the family.

SPEAKER_03 17:45

Um you're gonna make me grab my family album for all that, I can't remember.

SPEAKER_00 17:50

Yeah, I think family was the band that was um Arthur Brown's original band. So if the guitarist from this group was in The Family, and he was also in The Animals between 1967 and 69, it's just kind of showing, like, all right, this guy had some really interesting names under his belt before being in this group.

SPEAKER_03 18:12

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He had some moxie.

SPEAKER_00 18:15

Yes, let's see. And completing the moon rider lineup was former uh bodist and quiver bassist uh Bruce Thomas, an ex-Jasper and triffle drummer Chico Greenwood. Musically, the Moonrider album merges a rustic twang with dark balladry. Uh the a balance exemplified on the track Danger in the Night, which Wheeder would re-record with his subsequent band uh Gulliver, which I have a Gulliver album as well. Um Bruce Thomas re-emerged in the late 1977, and Elvis Costello's backing band uh uh of the attractions. So this group has some pretty interesting connections between other bands. Uh that looks like they're they were from the UK from 1973 to 1975 is when this band was active. Um looks like they released it under the uh small a small label, which is Anchor. I've never heard of Anchor Records either, so this was uh literally kind of a blind find from me. And I was just like, I just saw the album cover. It has like this silvery, almost uh reflective cover where it has like a picture of an owl on it. So it just has like a unique cover design. Um so it just kind of piqued my interest. And listened to it yesterday and it was it was very, very good. I really enjoyed it. It was it kind of reminded me of like uh Bebop Deluxe in a lot of ways.

SPEAKER_04 19:53

Oh wow, okay.

SPEAKER_00 19:54

Um so yeah, it's a very good find. I'll I'll take pictures of it and I'll send that to you.

SPEAKER_04 19:59

Yeah, very cool.

SPEAKER_03 20:00

Yeah, I grabbed my family album. Um Does it have John Wheater on it? Nope. It's got five members. It's a 1973. And I know it's a family because I feel like I probably talked about them or whatever, like way back when I got this thing. And yeah, there's some kind of a connection to Arthur Brown, I feel like, but I don't know what it is right now. Very cool.

SPEAKER_00 20:35

All right. Um the next uh album I wanted to talk about was able to sit down and listen to uh John Mail's Looking Back. I think I I you were mentioned you actually mentioned this record to me a while ago. Um because this has uh Peter Green on it, and we talked about Peter Green extensively quite a bit. Um but this is the album though of John Mayle that has Peter Green on it. And uh it was very, very good. I was very impressed with it as always, with anything that John Mail does. Um but this one it was very very unique just with hearing Peter Green in his group. Um it was like dark, it had moments of like being really heavy and kind of oblique. Uh it was very enjoyable. This uh as far as like record care, this one had a unique thing that I don't that I haven't really tried to fix yet, but this has just an edge warp. So like just the edge of the record is lifting and it's only on one side. I'm guessing it sat at an angle for many years. Um where like the first two tracks it couldn't play. Like the needle would literally skip back probably four or five grooves and it wouldn't even play forward. So I had to skip the first two tracks on both sides just to get the rest of it to play.

SPEAKER_04 22:01

Yeah. Okay.

SPEAKER_00 22:02

So that'll be an interesting thing to try to discover or or learn about to see if it'll be possible to get that flattened or to get that play at least.

SPEAKER_03 22:12

Yeah, that's almost like a whole other record club meeting trying to figure that one out. I mean, people have tried all different kinds of things and with, you know, who knows how much real success. I don't know, but yeah. Interesting.

SPEAKER_01 22:26

What does it take to flatten out a rec a record?

SPEAKER_00 22:30

Uh you you can get you can actually get um a record, like a record heater, and it's you place the record in, it's kind of like a jacket, like a felt jacket that has heating pads on it. You let it sit in for like a half hour, it warms up very slowly, and it maintains like a soft warmth, and it has like pads in it, so there's already pressure on the record, and that's supposed to get warp like normal warp out from records, but this one has like a very specific and small warp of just the edge. Um my buddy has a record flattener like that, and he says he's never had any issues with it, but he said he can't get the edge warps fixed, and he's like, Some of these you I just don't really know what you're gonna do with that. But um I've seen some videos of people that they would take like two sheets of uh glass and they would just set the record in it and they'd put a rock in it, a rock on top of it of the uh second sheet of glass, and they'd let it sit out in the sun.

SPEAKER_01 23:30

Oh, interesting.

SPEAKER_00 23:31

Um, I've never tried that, I wouldn't want to try that.

SPEAKER_03 23:35

Yeah, I can't I can't see how that can't um you know distort the little grooves in the record.

unknown 23:43

Right.

SPEAKER_03 23:43

You know, I can't see the grooves not being somehow changed or in that process. Right. It almost seems like impossible to me, but I mean there maybe there's a way to do it. It's kind of one of those, I don't know, questions that everybody runs into trying to figure out.

SPEAKER_01 24:03

Yeah, yeah. So let that be a lesson to all the listeners out there. Store your records properly. Yep, vertically. Yeah, vertically. If you've got some plastic uh sleeves, some cell phone sleeves that you can put them in, get them. They're cheap. They'll your records will thank you.

SPEAKER_03 24:23

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Records will last forever if you take care of them, because I mean I got stuff from the 50s, and you know, it's still great.

SPEAKER_01 24:32

So I I I think as a s as a society, underestimate um the longevity of a vinyl record. And tape, Eric has really turned me on to tape, like how long music can can last. For all we know, a hundred years from now, we could still as long as you have the right equipment, we could still be listening to this stuff.

SPEAKER_03 24:52

Yeah. And every once in a while I'll think back, well, okay, I'll tell you one thing it took me back this like yesterday, day before, whatever. Well, I grabbed a record um and I bought it when it was new in 1979. It came out double album. Um, and I listened to it constantly. And back in '79, I mean, I was still I mean, I was still drinking and using back then. I didn't get clean and sober until 83. So when I was listening to this album, because I listened to it all the time after I bought it for years, and I thought to myself, I don't think I've listened to this album since I've been sober. I mean, you know. And well, it's well, it's by probably Eric's favorite group. What album, what double album came out in 79 by like I'm thinking your favorite group, Eric. It's gotta be the wall. It is the wall. And I and I grabbed it and I looked on the label, and it had a little a little permostat sticker on it. And I can remember way back in the day, there was this anti-static uh spray you could spray on your records, and it would take away the static. And any record I did that with, you got a package of those little stickers. You could, and it was still permastated, and it was like new. And I'm like, this thing sounds as good as it always did, you know.

SPEAKER_01 26:20

Nice.

SPEAKER_03 26:21

So that was cool. And then it got me to thinking about back in the you know, late 80s, uh, late 80s, you know, early 90s, whatever, when people were dumping their records and buying CDs. I mean, that's how I got most of my collection for sure. But back then, I had the thought of, okay, there's not gonna be any more records. I better buy as many as I can because they're switching over to CDs. I mean, I thought there was not ever going to be any records anymore after that switch. And and then that led me to think they're gonna quit making record players and turntables too. So I started hitting up garage sales. I remember I had 33 turntables at one point because I thought there was gonna be no more records and no more turntables.

SPEAKER_01 27:12

Uh that must have felt like the apocalypse for you.

SPEAKER_03 27:15

It's it felt like, yeah, it was like uh, oh no, I don't want records to go away, and they're gonna go away. Yeah, it was not good.

SPEAKER_01 27:24

I just left because of all the the winter weather happening right now. People are rushing to the store, they're buying generators, they're buying food, and I just pictured Jerry buying turntables.

SPEAKER_03 27:36

Yeah, I mean, I had um, yeah. You could pick up turntables cheap. Well, everything was cheap back then too, because they were you know thinking that they weren't gonna be around anymore or something.

SPEAKER_00 27:47

Or can it's obsolete with new technology. Uh I just had two other albums that I have two other albums I was able to see too, but it's okay. Another album that I listened to was it's my second Velvet Underground album. Uh it's called Loaded, and that is on the Cotillion label, which I really enjoy that label. Yeah, it's a good label. Um and this was 1979. This or sorry, 1970, excuse me. Um yeah, this was very good. I really enjoyed it. Uh it was nice just kind of finding a Velvet Underground album in the wild. Uh, like I said, this is from uh where I got like a bunch of records for pretty cheap. So it was like it equated to like five dollars a record, and to get Velvet Underground for that same price, it was very very fun. Um, and I really just enjoyed listening to the record yesterday. And it made me think of um like the first Velvet Underground album I have or the the only other album other album I have up there is is actually a double live album because we were talking about double live albums the previous week. Um it's like a picture of like this woman's legs and like the back of her dress, and that's like the front of the cover. That one is that's the record I have. And this one was I enjoyed it just as much as that one. But um it made me think what we were talking about. If you had to pick an album between a band, what album would you pick? And you said, like, you know, I'd probably pick their double live album, because then you'd get an idea of what they naturally sounded like, and it'd be like different renditions of it. So just kind of reflecting on what we've talked about with uh listening to like double live albums, but then also just expanding to double live albums to a studio record. So I was just enjoyable listening to this Velvet Underground album.

SPEAKER_02 29:44

Yeah. Which Vel like the one with the with the dress hiked up on the woman's back end. I've got that one. Which other one did you say you had?

SPEAKER_00 29:54

Uh, this is the one I'm talking about. It's called Loaded. It's like a white cover with like what looks like pink clouds coming out from like a subway station.

SPEAKER_02 30:04

Okay, yeah, I don't have that one.

SPEAKER_00 30:06

I'll take pictures of it and send it to you.

SPEAKER_02 30:08

Okay. I've got five five films under the ones, but not that one. Okay.

SPEAKER_00 30:13

Yeah, I've never seen this album. I don't really know like what some of their albums even look like. So it's like um it'll be so it was fun just kind of like seeing this randomly and just being, oh yep, I'm just gonna grab that. Exactly. This other one was another one that I I knew who it was, and I knew who the I knew who the guitar player was, so I instantly was excited to find it. It's uh and I think it's their second and only second album that they did as a group. I'm just gonna double check this. Uh, but the band is called Naz. And do you remember who was in Naz, Jerry? I should because I feel like I just read something about them yesterday. Uh this was Todd Rundgren's first band.

SPEAKER_03 31:02

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's right. It wasn't yesterday, but it was like recently I saw that. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 31:09

Yeah, they started in 1967 in Philadelphia. They're considered to be psych rock, Raj Rock, and Power Pop. This record it was it blew me away. So I mean, obviously Todd Rundgren, he's an amazing guitar player. Yeah, what year was it? Did you say the year? 1969. Okay. Um and this was their second album, so they only did two records. They did a collection of archived recordings that was later released as NAS 3, but it looks like as far as uh studio albums, they only did two records. And where NAS 3 was like a compilation of stuff that was released in 71. Um and it was reissued in 83. But so I have the sec the second primary NAS album, which I it was very, very good.

SPEAKER_03 32:00

And I sure that'd be that'd be a hard one to find too. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 32:05

And it was interesting. I don't I'm I don't know how common it was for bands to do this, but like for a second album, like the record is on like a red translucent vinyl, which I don't know how common it is to see colored records for new bands. Do you ever see like colored records often in the the sixties, Jerry? Um no.

SPEAKER_03 32:29

I mean, I know they did it, but I feel like eight colored ones back then were like, I don't know, music we put that into or something. I don't know. It was yeah, it was it would it would be it's rare to find one old one with colored vitamin, but they're but they did it.

SPEAKER_00 32:48

Yeah, and what was nice about this record, like I mean it looks I mean, it looks filthy, but it played really well. Um no skips, no pops, nothing. So it'll be it's like once again, it's like older records, like I'm not afraid to buy them. I'm not nervous if they look a little scratchy. It's a part of the character of the record, but then also it's like the love of taking care of something where it could be neglected further or just not really uh given the respect that somebody else put into making it.

SPEAKER_03 33:21

I know sometimes sometimes I'll talk to my old records when I'm clean, and I'm like, after I get them, I'm like, well, I just saved your life. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 33:30

They're living creatures.

SPEAKER_03 33:31

Talk you were talking about the double live album thing.

SPEAKER_01 33:34

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 33:35

I was not sure about the wall. I thought for a while I thought it was a live album, but it isn't. There's only, I think, two tracks that are live on it.

SPEAKER_00 33:46

Yeah, I think some of it is uh actually I'll have to double check. I wonder if some of that is like studio stuff, because like I know like a lot of that music was for the movie of the wall, so I wonder if some of that was from the movie side of it. I'm not sure.

SPEAKER_01 34:04

I would take a guess and if if there is something that's live, run like hell maybe, yeah, would sound like it I'm kind of playing it in my head. That would sound like maybe a a I don't know, I could be wrong too, but yeah. If someone said, hey, there's a track that's actually recorded live, uh that would be my guess.

SPEAKER_03 34:21

Yeah. And I listened to the 73 uh Uriah Heap live on like yesterday too. It had been a while for that one.

SPEAKER_00 34:31

Yeah, that's the one that yeah, I was thinking the the best of Uriah Heap where it has that grid of all the band members and like where they were from and what bands they were connected with.

SPEAKER_04 34:40

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 34:41

Yeah. The live album. Yeah, that's good. I'll have to listen to that one too. Or re-listen to that.

SPEAKER_03 34:45

Yeah. I mean, yeah, I mean it's got you know Sweet of the Rain, Circle of Hands, you know, yeah, all their good stuff. So yeah. I have one other band.

unknown 35:00

Sure.

SPEAKER_04 35:00

If we have time. Sure, go for it. Okay.

SPEAKER_03 35:06

Well, it's a band that I I don't know knew about, but just never paid much attention to. You know, I heard the fits every once in a while, but just never anyway. I uh like six of their albums, so I started listening to those things, and I mean I love this band now, which and well, like I say, I got six of the albums, and I hope to get two or three more. Okay, they're Scottish hard rock, uh formed in 1968. They had uh a lot of hit singles in Canada and the United Kingdom, and then a number of other European countries began or are beginning in the early 70s. They were kind of like more uh popular over there in the US until let's see, they got popular in the United States, looks like in 75 with their 75 album. And they've continued okay. This was this was this line really got me. They have continued to to record and tour internationally for more than 50 years. This band's been around longer than almost any other band, it seems like uh it says they were inspired, you know, by the Beatles and the Rolling Stones. Uh let's see here. They moved to London in 1970 and released their self-titled album in 71. And their 72 album, they uh supported that album by going on tour. Well, they supported Deep Purple on tour to support their 72 album, and that album got um two top 10 hits in the UK. Let's see. Then they then they did another album in 73, 74, uh, let's see. It looks like the 74 one, it just says it narrowly missed the British top 40 uh for album. Okay, then okay, this is kind of weird. I never read this just now, but uh they covered some song that was inspired by, I don't know, some anarchist group in Amsterdam. I don't know. There's not really that much on that. I don't feel like reading that. Okay. Uh let's see here. They the American version, the American version of the song, uh, let's see. One of their songs, it became a hit in the UK, and in the US, it went uh platinum. Uh let's see, a top 10. It was the track track became the band's uh US top 10 hit and hit number 10 in other countries, reaching number one in six of them. Uh the song was on the Norwegian chart for six sixty weeks. They they got in '79, they got another guitarist who came from a band that I've been wanting for a while, that I got an album coming by them, so I'm glad about that. Uh he won. Oh, they um okay. Guns Guns N' Roses covered one of their songs. Um let's see. Uh apparently Slash, Slash from Guns N' Roses liked this band's uh lead guitarist or lead guy's voice. Okay. Let's see. In the eighth they released uh album in uh anniversary. Okay, for one year, for the whole year of 2008, they toured like all of Europe, it looks like they started in Sweden and visited most uh Europe finishing on uh November 4th of 2008 in Norway. So they toured Europe for that whole year. Um let's see. A few years ago, the lead singer I didn't see here. Um the whole their their main guy, the lead singer, two of the two of the group started have been with them from beginning to end, and one of the another one with them for almost the whole end, but two or three members kind of were interchanging sort of throughout you know their time. Okay. They did 25 albums. And I won't make you I won't make you guess who it is unless somebody has a has a guess.

SPEAKER_00 40:06

I have an idea.

SPEAKER_03 40:07

Is it is it golden earring? No, but uh yes.

SPEAKER_04 40:13

Think think of the band. Like the way I thought this band was, you know, it's like they were there, but I just never really paid that much attention to them. Okay, act okay.

SPEAKER_03 40:24

I'll tell this is sort of a clue. Hey, hey, Jerry, uh got a lot of airplay.

SPEAKER_01 40:31

Jerry, hold on. Your audio is uh cutting out pretty good.

SPEAKER_03 40:35

Um yeah, it's like I'm hearing my own feedback again, too.

SPEAKER_01 40:39

Okay. Um can we pause for a second? I can edit this part out. Um, Eric, do you wanna do you wanna hang up and just call him back right away? Can I call you back, Jerry? Sure. Should I hang up or what? I'll I'll hang up. Yep, then Eric will call you right away. Okay. I'll just like waiting for it to maybe get better and it just wasn't getting better. So hopefully just like re-establishing the call.

SPEAKER_00 40:58

Wondering if it might be like when I'm getting like notifications. Like I got like an email, I got a thing from eBay, like a notification, so I wonder if that might be something too. I'm just thinking out loud.

SPEAKER_01 41:10

Yeah. Thinking out loud. Um yeah, if you want to try turning down Hello. Hello. That sounds good.

SPEAKER_03 41:19

Yeah, I I can I don't hear myself talking back to me, so that's good.

SPEAKER_04 41:24

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 41:24

I put it on speaker there earlier when we started before. I don't know if that had anything to do with it. I just thought it'd be easier on speaker.

SPEAKER_00 41:31

But uh typically that hasn't been an issue in the past, so um Yeah, I didn't think it would hurt. Yeah, okay. Because we haven't had we've done that many times and it's never been an issue. So Right, right. That's what I thought. One thing I was thinking was um since I have my phone plugged into this recorder, like I got like an email and I got an e uh eBay notification since starting today's recording. So I wonder if that might have had something to do with that too. So we'll be troubleshooting.

SPEAKER_03 42:01

Um okay. Well, you you guys know more about the tech stuff than me, that's for sure.

SPEAKER_01 42:07

All right, you can go ahead and continue.

SPEAKER_03 42:09

Okay, okay. Now there is they had one song that was a hit in this country, but it was sort of a controversial song, and a lot of times whenever I heard it, I'd be like, God, how can they play this on the radio or whatever? And you I'm sure you guys have heard the song too. It's it's like now you're messing with a son of a bitch.

SPEAKER_00 42:30

Ooh, okay, yeah, I know who it is. Nazareth.

SPEAKER_03 42:34

Yeah, it's like these guys are so good. Yeah, that was one of the reasons I thought I don't want to listen to them if they're gonna sing about a son of a bitch all the time or whatever. So but yeah, I mean that was that was a big hit in the US, but it's like that group is very good. And uh I mean I have like I said, I've got six of their albums and and I'm getting two or three more. So yeah, Nazareth is a great group.

SPEAKER_00 42:57

Okay, so my one of my first uh times, like just spontaneously buying records when I was just starting to collect records. I was uh going thrift store shopping with my mom and I found a Nazareth album and I grabbed it and I showed it to my mom and we were driving home, and she goes, Now you're listening to some bitch, and she starts laughing. So she's uh funny experience where it's like, okay, it's like how you're saying, like, oh, I don't want to listen to it. It's like my first thought was hearing my mom sing it to me in the car.

SPEAKER_03 43:29

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 43:30

Good memory.

SPEAKER_03 43:30

Yeah, I mean, I know it's like it it's probably it probably happened that way for you know, more than just me. I mean, you know, people probably said, well, geez, if they have to talk like that in a song just to get recognized, they must not be that good or something. I don't know. But yeah, great, great band.

SPEAKER_00 43:49

I didn't realize they were Scottish though. I didn't know that.

SPEAKER_03 43:51

So I didn't know they were Scottish, I don't think either, until I read this. I'm on, oh Scottish, okay. It almost gave them more credibility right from the beginning when I read. That I'm like, oh okay, from over there. Yeah, and Love Hurts. I mean, what a great song. And you know, anytime you hear that, it's good. And I mean, that was one of the songs that put them really over the top in this country, too.

SPEAKER_01 44:13

Is that the uh the the popular Love Hurts? That song?

SPEAKER_04 44:18

Yep, yep. Okay.

SPEAKER_03 44:20

Yep. Yeah, it's a great song, really. So yeah, and I already actually like I get up so early, you know, I pretty much have my next two bands for next week already.

SPEAKER_00 44:35

I'm uh planning on just I got I've just been like going through that record hall that I got. So I'm just like picking records blindly and just being, okay, I'm gonna listen to this, I'm gonna listen to this. I'll probably do the same exact thing today, and I'll probably have something prepped for next week by the end of the day, that by the end of the day. Nice.

SPEAKER_03 44:52

Yeah. Um before you guys called, I was watching this guy. Like, there's other YouTubers that they'll do, oh, I'm just gonna go blindly grab three albums out of my collection. Sometimes they pull one out and then they change their mind or something. Um but uh so yeah, a lot of people do that. There and I like doing that too. It's like, okay, right. When my kids are here, I got okay, go like flip through the boxes and grab me like three records, and I never know what they're gonna bring. And then when they bring to me, I'm like, ooh, cool, good job, you know. Yeah, so uh now Justin, you got your turntable going good and everything now?

SPEAKER_01 45:32

Yep, it works. Um still trying to figure out my I don't know if there's something with the receiver that I'm just not getting a lot of bass coming out of my speakers right now. So, but I live in an apartment, so it's kind of a good thing that there's not a lot of base. Um, because I just have my speaker sitting on the floor, so I don't want to um annoy my neighbors below me. Although I have talked to the guy, it's an older uh couple, and he oftentimes will joke around how his girlfriend um it's funny, he's like, Oh my girlfriend, you know, she can't hear and they're like 70 years old, so it's kind of cute. Um, so like when the kids come over and stomp around, like I don't feel too bad because he keeps telling me they can't hear anyway. Um anyway, with with with that being said, um, yeah, I I feel like there's I'm I'm not getting a lot of low-end bass coming out, but otherwise I can I can throw a record on and I can spin it and I can listen to it.

SPEAKER_00 46:28

Nice. Okay. I'll send you back with uh born again. I think you can listen to that. Okay.

SPEAKER_03 46:34

Yeah. Yeah, I might have born again on cassette now that you mentioned it. I think I've I think I do actually, so I should just listen to that myself. Do you have a loudness button on your receiver?

SPEAKER_01 46:48

I do, and it is on.

SPEAKER_03 46:50

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_01 46:51

Okay. And I have to I have to turn the bass all the way up on the receiver just to get some bass to come out. Huh.

SPEAKER_03 46:58

There's something up there. I'm I'm not real good at figuring stuff out. I just keep trying stuff until it works.

SPEAKER_01 47:03

But yeah, one of these days. I I'll probably just bring it over to to Eric's and plug it in with his speakers to see if I get the same result. I'm not gonna I'm not gonna lose sleep over it right now. Yeah, right.

SPEAKER_00 47:15

Well welcome, welcome to uh stereo and audio stuff. Uh it's a great problem to have. Yes, thank you.

SPEAKER_03 47:22

Yes, yeah, especially the vintage stuff.

SPEAKER_01 47:24

Glad to be here.

SPEAKER_00 47:26

Glad glad they made it.

SPEAKER_03 47:29

Yeah. Yeah, and I know I got yeah, one, I don't even know which album. I got an album in my mailbox yesterday, but it was too cold to go get it. And I might end up getting a couple today, I don't know. But if it gets close, if it gets like in the single digits below zero, that's not too bad. I I'll I'll probably go to my mailbox today later on. But yeah, I'm glad January's almost done.

SPEAKER_01 47:56

Yeah, just one more really crappy month of winter.

SPEAKER_03 48:01

Yeah. Well, it's a short month, so yeah. I always try to look at the good side.

SPEAKER_01 48:07

Although I typically hate March weather too, because it starts to tease you where you you might get a a spotty like 50 degree day, and then three days later it's back to single digits.

SPEAKER_03 48:18

Yeah, yeah, or snow drifts or whatever. Yeah. Oh yeah. Well well, I don't know. You guys, besides me, I think we've all lived in Minnesota our whole life.

SPEAKER_00 48:28

So I lived in uh another state, but it was North Dakota, and it was very cold there too. So it's like Minnesota's like I don't know, it's feels homeier where it's yeah, there isn't 70 mile an hour wind at 40 below.

SPEAKER_03 48:42

Yeah, I I lived in superior Wisconsin for a year or so. It's pretty much like the same thing.

SPEAKER_01 48:49

Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Still to this day, I think the coldest I've ever felt outside was in Fargo. Yeah. I was up there for work and oh my god, and the wind. I don't think the air temperature was as cold as on record as as it's been here in the Twin Cities a couple times, but man, that there was something about that day when I was up there. That it's it it haunts me how coldy.

SPEAKER_03 49:19

Don't have any trees out there. Yeah, it wasn't too long ago. Just a few days ago, I don't know, maybe three, four days ago. You know, looked out my window, you know, it's real cold and whatever. These little kids are in their snow pants and they're playing around on this pile of snow and they could care less what the temperature was. I'm thinking, geez, I can remember doing that when I was a kid. I didn't really think about the cold that much when I was a kid.

SPEAKER_01 49:40

I'm just amazed that in 2026 you looked out your window and you still saw kids playing outside.

SPEAKER_03 49:46

Yeah, true.

SPEAKER_01 49:47

Good.

SPEAKER_03 49:48

Eric mentioned Velvet Underground, so I'll probably have to listen to them today. I haven't listened to them for a long time. That's another good thing about record club. You end up getting ideas about other groups and Oh, for sure. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 50:00

All right. Well good record clubs.

SPEAKER_03 50:02

Yeah, yeah. We had a little uh t technical issue, but okay. Well, stay warm and have a good day.

SPEAKER_00 50:09

Alrighty. Thanks. You too. Bye, Jerry.

SPEAKER_03 50:11

Okay, thank you. Talk to you later. Okay, bye.