Who Are The BeeGees

 In this episode, we dive into a fascinating conversation about The Bee Gees, exploring why their legacy stretches far beyond the disco era many people associate them with. We uncover surprising connections across the music world, from the incredible career of Jules Holland to the lasting influence of bands like Squeeze and The The. Along the way, we share stories of unexpected record discoveries, forgotten musical histories, and the excitement of hearing classic albums with fresh ears. From jazz and rockabilly to folk, new wave, and beyond, this episode is packed with moments that remind us why collecting records is such a rewarding journey. Join us as we celebrate the albums, artists, and connections that continue to keep the groove alive. 

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Transcript

SPEAKER_04 0:07

Jerry, why don't you get us started with The Stay in History?

SPEAKER_01 0:10

Okay, this date, February 21st. Not a real big, not a lot of stuff happening, but uh today, Nina Simone was born today, 1933. Nina Simone is really hard to find. If you find any of hers, make sure you get her. Um, she's really good, jazz. Uh okay, David Giffen was born today in 1943. Ron Nagel in 1939, not sure who that is. Well, Jerry Harrison, Harrison, he's with the talking heads. He was born today in 1949. Uh, let's see. Well, this is who died. This is kind of a historically bad thing. Uh Malcolm X was assassinated today in the um Audubon ballroom in New York City in 1965. Uh and this one kind of baffled me. I didn't look it up, but it said you you guys might know. Murray the Kay, Kaufman, the fifth Beetle, died of cancer today in 1982. I always thought Harry Neil son was known as the fifth beetle. I don't know who this Murray Kaufman is. I'll have to look it up.

SPEAKER_00 1:27

Or even just like Pete Best, because he was the original drummer. True. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:34

Um and on this day of the event was Nixon arrives in China in 1972, this date, and on this very same date in 1976, he went to China. So that's for today. I just kind of noticed for tomorrow. There's kind of a cool thing for this date tomorrow. Um Carl Perkins' first hit, Blue Suede Shoes, makes a chart in 1956, along with Elvis's first hit, Heartbreak Hotel, in 1956. So this day in 1956 was kind of an explosion of those things. And that's it.

SPEAKER_04 2:16

All right. Sounds good. Uh Eric, what do you got for do you have anything to share today?

SPEAKER_00 2:22

Um, I just think it'd be interesting if uh are we gonna do the name of wax?

SPEAKER_02 2:27

Uh yep, yep. I'll I'll I'll do that. Okay.

SPEAKER_04 2:31

We're just gonna go around uh and just share what we have to share today.

SPEAKER_00 2:36

Um I was thinking, Jerry, like if uh if it'd be interesting if both of us talked about uh just our perspective of the Bee Gees. I think that would be an interesting discussion because uh I let Justin borrow Odessa last week. He did. Oh, and I listened to it last night. So I think just uh it'd be interesting just kind of talking about like what albums of them do we have, what's our experience of that? Um I th because it's I I just think that would be an interesting discussion between the three of us. Um if you'd like to talk about the BGs today. Yeah, that's fine. Okay. Um and that's pretty much all I have. I haven't haven't listened to any records this week. Um, just been busy with work and other stuff. So I I don't have any uh a band or a record to discuss, but I was thinking about the BGs just with uh letting uh Justin borrow Odessa and then reading up a little bit on them.

SPEAKER_04 3:34

Yeah, so we'll dive into that. Um then Jerry, do you have an artist or an album that you wanted to highlight today?

SPEAKER_01 3:42

Oh my god. I've I had one major band that I wanted to talk about and then an artist for not too long, but then those things got blown out of the water by another discovery I made in the last day, and it's uh yeah, it's it's a very good discovery, and it'll take some time to cover this guy, and I've never heard of the guy before. Um and well, when when I start talking about him, I'm gonna I was just gonna throw it out for for at least Eric. It just there's a David Gilmore connection, but that doesn't come till later on.

SPEAKER_04 4:36

So all right. That sounds fantastic.

SPEAKER_01 4:39

So uh we'll it is, it really is.

SPEAKER_04 4:42

Cool. So in a second, we'll go through the uh we'll do the mission statement, and then I'd say let's give the floor to Jerry. We'll let him talk about his uh his finds, and then after that, stick around and we'll we'll dive into the bee gees uh later on. So uh Eric, why don't you get us started with the mission statement?

SPEAKER_00 5:00

All right. In the name of Wax as an exclusive record club for music lovers of the analog format through sharing experiences, memories, discoveries, and emotions tied to the albums. Our goal is to build continued appreciation for forgotten bands and members by understanding more of their histories and connections. We reinforce our bond with club members for love of the groove.

SPEAKER_02 5:23

Love of the groove. That's very good.

SPEAKER_00 5:26

Yes.

SPEAKER_01 5:27

It'll never go away, it'll continue forever.

SPEAKER_04 5:30

Yes. All right, Jerry, you have the floor.

SPEAKER_01 5:33

Uh-oh. Um, yeah, interesting. Um I had uh well, I ended up getting a couple albums finally of a band that I've been wanting for quite a while. And when I was kind of, you know, listening to it and kind of looking at the albums, I realized somebody in this band was someone that I've had two of his albums for I don't know how many years, five years at least, or more. Um, they were in a box of albums. I told Eric about this, but at that church bookstore I used to go to, I got a box of albums. They were all like new and punk rock, and that's where most of my punk rock came from. But anyway, I got the whole box for five bucks. And when I saw uh, okay, anyway, so I I was looking into this artist, and I'm like, oh my god. In the U.S. he's not well known, but in England and well, at least New Zealand, he's very well known. Okay, I won't say his name just in case I'll say that till the end. But anyway, this guy was born in uh January uh 1958 in England. He's he's a pianist, band leader, singer, composer, television presenter. Um, and he was an original member of this band that I like, but I found out the two albums I had by this band, he's not on them. He left the band after the three albums. So, but those three albums I've got coming. Um let's see, from uh 82 to 87. He he he he co-presented some uh music on TV in England. And let's see, '92, he hosted another show where he did uh artists, he'd bring artists in and you know, just kind of a show about music and artists and stuff like that. Um he okay, published author, period. Let's see here. He in 2004, he collaborated uh with Tom Jones on an album uh for some RB music. Uh he achieved his first uh UK number one album in 2024, uh Swing Fever. He collab collaboration with Rod Stewart. I wouldn't mind getting that album. He's worked with many other artists, including Mark Allman, Jane County, Jose Feliciano, Sting, Eric Clapton, Mark Knopfler, George Harrison, David Gilmore, Ringo Starr, Dr. John, Bono, the Du. I'd like to get an album by the duh. Uh Ruby Tooner or Turner and Amy Winehouse. Okay, this guy was born in 1958, uh Blackheath, London. Okay, at the age of eight, he could play the piano fluently by ear. By his early teens, he was appearing regularly in many of the pubs in uh Southeast London and the East End docks. He was educated at the Shooters Hill Grammar School, Southeast London, from which he was expelled for damaging a teacher's triumph herald. That's a sports car. Um, this guy was like he's like a kind of a troublemaker genius. Uh wait till you yeah, it keeps getting better. Okay, he began his uh career as a session musician. First studio session was with Wayne County and the electric chairs in 1976 on their track, and the song was called Fuck Off. And then he was the founding member of this band that I was taught that I was referencing earlier, formed in London in March of 74. Uh, he played the keyboards until 1980. He played on the first three albums. Uh, let's see, he began his solo uh records in 78 uh with his first EP. Uh let's see, he continued his solo career through the early 80s, releasing an album and several singles in 81 and 84. He branched out into TV co-presenting the Newcastle-based TV music show, The Tube, with Paula Yates. Okay. He used the and for people that were like watching this show or whatever, he would he would he would put this out there. He would say, be there or be an ungroovy fucker. Love it. Uh yeah, one of his early TV trailers for the show, live across two channels, uh, caused him to be suspended from the show for six weeks. Oh, he referred to the sitcom, The Groovy Fellas with okay, I don't know who that guy is. Okay, in 83, he played extended piano solo, uh, re-recording of Uncertain Smile. Uh okay, I'm gonna skip over some of this here. Between '88 and '90, he performed and co-hosted along with David Sanborn. Uh he's a sax player, you everybody probably knows. Um, let's see. Then he was doing uh two music sessions a night on Sunday Night NBC uh television since uh since '92, he's been sent okay. Well, I mean, he still doesn't okay. In 92, he interviewed the surviving Beatles as part of the Beatles anthology documentary series. This guy had his had his impact in a bunch of things. In 96, he signed a recording contract with Warner Brother Records, and his records are now marketed through uh Rhino Records. Uh Rhino was kind of cheap early on, but I think they've stepped their game up as far as their pressings. Uh let's see, in 2002, November, he was in the ensemble uh ensemble of musicians who performed at the concert for George, which celebrated the music of George Harrison, in January of 05. He and his band performed with Eric Clapton as the headline act of the tsunami relief Cardiff. Um he collaborated in 2004 with uh Welsh singer Tom Jones on an album. On uh BBC Radio 2. He regularly hosted the program, uh, his program, a mix of live and recorded music, and general chat featuring studio artists along with members and of his orchestra. Uh he currently hosts the music magazine program on BBC Radio 3 every Saturday from 12 to 1. In March of 23, uh Jimmy Barnes, I'm not sure who that is, announced the formation of a supergroup, the Barnstormers, featuring him along with uh himself uh and and this guy and Chris Cheney, I don't know these people, Slim Jim Phantom, Kevin.

SPEAKER_04 13:47

Slim Jim Phantom.

SPEAKER_01 13:50

I can't believe that that would be his birth name, but I'm not sure, I guess. Um and he achieved his first UK number one in 04, swing fever. Okay, then it goes through a bunch of his like personal life. Uh I'm gonna skip over most of that. Um I'll just get down to there is quite a bit on him. I'll just get down to he did, let's see here. Uh well he did perform in 06 at they did a HIVAIDS charity concert in South End in England. He did that, okay, in the 60s, okay. There's more stuff. Uh he just did a lot of stuff. Um he did, well, he worked with Suzy and the Banshees, Magnum, and XTC. I only have one XTC album. I should do one of those. Um, let's see, it talks about him interviewing the Beatles again. Um okay, I'm gonna go through. Okay. These are the albums he did. Uh I'm not gonna say the name of each album. I'll just say the year and like its peak or whatever. Okay, 96 he did an album that reached number 38 on the UK charts. 98 he did an album uh reached number 90 on the UK charts, and it got UK Silver certification. 2000 he did one uh that got UK Silver, 2001, reached number eight in UK, number 23 in New Zealand, and got UK two times platinum. Uh 2002, he did an album number 17 in the UK, number 44 in New Zealand, and it got UK platinum. 2003, uh he did one that reached number 39 in UK and it was UK silver. Uh the one with Tom Jones in 04, he reached number five in the UK and got UK gold. In 05, he did one that got 36 in the UK. Uh 07, number 9 in the UK, got UK silver, 2011, uh number 127 in the UK, 2012, number 11 in the UK, and got UK silver, 2015, um 39 in the UK, 2017, 24 in the UK, 2018, number 61 in the UK, and 2004, last year, the swing fever won with Rod Stewart, it got number one in the UK. And it got UK silver. Okay.

SPEAKER_04 16:40

And I still don't know who this is.

SPEAKER_01 16:42

And right, right. I didn't know who this was until a few days ago. Okay. Now, his releases, it's like I didn't I didn't count them. There's too many. I mean, uh, there's probably at least I'm just saying there's probably about 40 of his releases. I mean, he's been going like forever. Okay, now these are other artists who he collaborated with on their albums. He collaborated in 77 with the Count Bishops and with uh Wayne County and the Electric Chairs. 78, he collaborated with Alternative TV. Okay, now he not only did he play piano, he played other keyboards. He played uh the MOOC synthesizer, uh, he played uh organ. So I'm not gonna say whatever instrument he played on each of these because they're all different. Okay. Uh in 79, he he played with street band and Eddie and the hot rods. 83 he played with the the uh 85 he played I know I I always thought if I had a name, if I had a band, I'd be that would be a name that I would like. Just because it's so like weird. Um okay. In 85 he played with Terraplane. Um I used to have a 36 Hudson Terraplane, that reminds me. Uh in 86, in 86 he played, he played with Bob Gildoff. And in 88, he played with Crow Molly, he played with the Fine Young Cannibals, he played with Hugh Cornwall. Uh in 92, he played with Eddie Ryder, or Reader, I'm sorry. Uh in 94, he played with Marcella Detroit. In 96, he played with Ruby Turner, and he played with the Blues Band, Blues Band, and he played with Mark Knoffler, and in 97 he played with B.B. King. In 97, he played with Paul Weller. In 98, he played with Dr. John. In 99, he played with Leo Green. In 2000, he played with Sam Brown. 2002, he played on George Harrison's album. In 2003, he played on George Harrison's Brainwashed album. In 90, excuse me, 2003, he played on the Frank album with Amy Winehouse. And in 2004, he played with uh Big Town Playboys and the Blues Band. In 2005, he played with Ocean Color Scene. And in 2006, he played on an island with David Gilmar. And in 2007, uh, he played on Stardom Road with Mark Allman. 2011 he played with Salman Burke. Yeah, 2011. Okay, 2011, he also played with Lulu, and he played Rattle That Lock with David Gilmar. And suddenly, like it with Paul Jones, 2016, he played with Beverly Knight, and in 2017 he played with uh Emil De May. And in 2020, he played with Micah Paris. And also in 2020, he played with Joe Basama. I never can pronounce his name back. What's his name again? Uh Joe Bonamasa. Bonhomasa, yeah, yeah. Okay. Now, after that, there's these are film and television things, and this list is at least 40 things long, so I'm not going to read it. He was into films as much as albums. Then he's got three uh current television programs going. One since '92, uh, that's still going. And another one that's been so he's got three current pro TV programs that he's doing. Now, he's also written six books that are like really like I don't know, I don't know how you rank books or whatever, but they're popular books. And this guy's like the reference thing on this Wikipedia page is longer than any referencing I've ever seen. Okay, this guy's name is Jules Holland. It was, I mean, Julius was his first name, but he spells it Jules. Yeah, Jules, like J-O-O-L-S. That's what he changed it to. His real name is Julian Miles Holland.

SPEAKER_04 21:47

Julian Miles Holland.

SPEAKER_01 21:49

Yep, yep. And the group that that directed me to him was uh Squeeze. I mean, I've been wanting to get a Squeeze album. For a long time, and I finally got one not too long ago. But then I was when I heard about this guy, I looked on that album and he's not on, and it's not one of their first three albums. So so and when I listened to the these two Jews Jules Holland albums that I have, it reminds me, I'm I'm trying to describe how what I can say that it reminds me of like um uh like no, I can't think of what I was thinking. It was it's like it's almost like Buddy Holly playing the piano or something. It's uh yeah, he can do like anything. And there was other like, you know, trouble this guy got into, and okay, I'm gonna just grab I'm gonna grab his two albums because he he kind of has the credits on the back.

SPEAKER_02 22:59

And it's kind of it's kind of he's kind of a prankster in a way too, which makes sense.

SPEAKER_01 23:08

Okay, uh he lists um uh let's see, Jules Holland.

SPEAKER_02 23:16

Let's see here.

SPEAKER_01 23:19

Okay, that's it's on his other album that says what I was thinking of.

unknown 23:24

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 23:25

Um, okay, now these are Jules, these are pr he produces his own albums now, too. Okay. Okay, so it's naming all the people in the band and what they do and what instruments they play, uh even himself. And then on the bottom it says uh Jules Holland does everything else not credited. And then it says, recorded at the back room of Holland's home, in parentheses, which accounts for the acoustic sound in stereo. So this guy's like a one-man, amazing thing or something. I'm like, gee. The more I read, the more I was like, what?

SPEAKER_00 24:10

Yeah. Sounds like it was like a uh like a one literally a one-man show that was able to do pretty much anything. Yeah, he this guy, you know, like I said, there's a lot more to all the reading.

SPEAKER_01 24:26

He has like, I don't know, like more balls and more confidence than any like artists I've ever heard about.

SPEAKER_04 24:34

So what does his music sound like when you listen to it?

SPEAKER_01 24:37

It's it's definite, like new wave, it's like new wave punk. Um uh, but then he'll do some rockabilly stuff that blows you away, too. So okay. Well, the two the two albums I have, like you guys can like, you know, go to them and uh do them or whatever. Okay, I got one is uh Jules Holland Meets Rockabilly, no rock a boogie Billy, and then the next one is Jules Holland uh and his millionaires. And the covers are why kind of wild too. The this one album of his driving this convertible with all the this whole band in the car flying down the road with their instruments hanging out. I've seen this album picture before. And like I said, these albums have been sitting in my collection for you know five years and I never paid no attention to them or whatever.

SPEAKER_00 25:45

Yeah. Very good. When you mentioned uh that he was with the the in 1983, I'll have to I'll have to check because I have four, like three or four albums of the the. Um they're a great band. Uh Matt Johnson is the vocalist and main uh component of the band. Do you have them handy? Can you s look on the back to see if Jules Holland is on? I was just thinking that. Yeah, I'll go check. I'll go grab it. I'll be right back.

SPEAKER_01 26:16

It might be worth it just to check. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 26:19

Sounds good. Yeah. Eric will go check. Jerry and I will continue the conversation here.

SPEAKER_01 26:24

Yeah. Okay, as long as Eric's not here. Uh I mean, uh nothing. I'm not gonna say nothing, but but as long as Eric's not here, I can tell you or ask you if you've uh oh let's see. No, I got now I'm trying to think of. Oh yeah. Have has Eric ever told you about Herbie Man or do you know about Herbie Mann?

SPEAKER_04 26:48

Uh yes, he has shown me Herbie Man. Um I'm blanking on like the sound. Um is he jazz?

SPEAKER_01 27:00

Jazz flute.

SPEAKER_04 27:01

Jazz flute. Okay, okay, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 27:04

Okay, one thing I was thinking about about him, that's a good thing to know. He was he was one of the jazz people that early on with all these other New York jazz players, went to Rio de Janeiro and Brazil when the whole Bossa Nova movement like started. And two of Herbie Mann's albums are very highly like sought after. Well, I just discovered that I had one of them. Oh, nice. I knew I had one, but after kind of reading up on it, it's like, geez, I got his first one there. So then I kept thinking, um, Justin really needs to know about Herbie Mann.

SPEAKER_04 28:01

Yeah, uh we'll have to uh um yeah, see what Eric has. Uh so lately after Record Club, Eric sends me home with a record. And so I'm making it my mission to listen to that record before next record club.

SPEAKER_01 28:17

Very good, very good. Well, yeah. Yeah, have him send you well, if if it I don't know if it happens while we're still alive, you can tell me which one it is, but but uh if not, I mean But if you tell if you tell Eric like the you know any of that like the Bossa Nova stuff. Okay, because I think he has one that um he and I listened to it. It might have might have been a double album, even too, like or a live album, something.

SPEAKER_04 28:50

Okay. Future future episode of In the Name of Wax, Bossa Nova.

SPEAKER_01 28:58

Yeah, that I was gonna talk about that some until I ran into this Jules Holland thing, and and this just like trumped what I was gonna do. There's another album, there's another um group that I've been wanting to do for a while, and I've got 13 of their albums, and it's a very significant band that doesn't get talked about. I was kind of I've been ready to do that one for like two or three weeks now, but something else always comes up ahead of it.

SPEAKER_04 29:29

Yeah. All right. Uh we have Eric back.

SPEAKER_00 29:34

Alrighty. I was okay. I was wrong. I don't have three albums or four. I have five albums.

SPEAKER_04 29:40

Nice. Nice. Again, the name of this artist is the the.

unknown 29:45

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 29:46

Two loves. As long as you have them, Eric, do you want to say anything you can about that band for now?

SPEAKER_00 29:51

Uh yeah. Um, so the the the way that they spell their name, it's great. It looks like the the uh presentation of like a horror movie where it's like the the where everything is all like squiggly letters. Um I have Soul Mining, which came out.

SPEAKER_02 30:10

See if I can find me near here. Uh that came out in '84.

SPEAKER_00 30:17

So I don't think this might have had Jules Holland, unless he's on it. Uh it's produced by Phil Hardiman and Matt Johnson. The words and music was by Matt Johnson. It was engineered by Paul Hardiman. Uh Matt Johnson is similar to uh um it's similar to like a one-man, one-man army, basically. He he would write everything and then he would uh like obviously like kind of like hire the band to record and play with him, but he would do everything. His voice is amazing. He has a really unique tone and um his lyrics are like great, they're uh deep, very thought-provoking, and it's even though his stuff is like from like the 80s, like his his his uh content is very uh interesting and um it's captivating, really. Um I have uh This is the day. That was this was an '83. Uh this is like a single, uh, it's a 12-inch single. Uh it was a promo for soul mining. Let's see. Once again by Paul, uh it was produced by Paul Hardeman and Matt Johnson. Um, I don't say anything about uh Jules Hardeman on that. Jules Holland. Or Jules Holland, sorry. I have uh Infected from the the and this was in '86.

SPEAKER_04 31:52

That is a great looking cover.

SPEAKER_00 31:54

Yeah. Um their covers are very colorful, they're unique, they're um captivating. It typically all their covers have some kind of like screaming face on it, and I'm it's uh yeah, just very great. Um I have the the, which is uh uh it's called a live. This is an interview and a live album. Uh this was done in '89 and looks like this was this is a demonstration, not for sale copy. Um there's actually one song here that was I don't know if it's uh let's see. One of the tracks, it looks like it was from Minneapolis here, and it was at First Avenue. It was no uh November 6th. Um it's just kind of noting their tour.

SPEAKER_04 32:48

So what year would that have been?

SPEAKER_00 32:50

89.

SPEAKER_04 32:51

89, okay.

SPEAKER_00 32:52

Uh so it just kind of lists their tour that they were doing, and uh, but this was recorded on August 4th. Um and it looks like this was done in Harden at the Harden Pavilion in Sydney, Australia. The recording engineer was Gary Fox. The it was mixed by Owen Morris at uh Brumway Studios in Hamburg. So it's the this recording is from uh it appears to be from Sydney, Australia, but it lists their tour in '89, and they played First Avenue here.

SPEAKER_04 33:27

So I love a local connection. Yep. 1989. The the performed at the First Avenue.

SPEAKER_00 33:36

And the last album I have is called The Beat Generation, which I believe is also from. Yeah, this is also from '89. Okay, this actually lists the the members. And I don't see Jules Holland on here. Um Matt Johnson does vocals, he does acoustic guitar, Johnny Maher does electric guitar, an additional harmonica. Johnny Marr. John, yep, Johnny Maher.

SPEAKER_04 34:07

Johnny Maher was in the the.

SPEAKER_00 34:10

I don't know if it's the same guy. Okay.

SPEAKER_04 34:12

But yeah. So that's a connection to uh Han Zimmer, who I love. Uh Han Zimmer had uh 2017 performed in Prague. There's a Netflix uh video. I have it on my on my YouTube videos. Uh Johnny Maher performs on stage with Han Zimmer. Um uh the guy from uh Aristocrats, um Guthrie Guthrie Golvin. Guthrie Golvin, and then um uh Mike from Incubus, so like all of them are up on stage with Han Zimmer, you know, playing movie soundtracks. So yeah, John when you hear when he said Johnny Marr, I'm gonna have to fact check that if that is the same Johnny Maher, but that is cool.

SPEAKER_00 34:53

I'm gonna I'm checking right now. Very good job.

SPEAKER_04 34:58

Because he's like personal friends with Han Zimmer, which I think is really cool.

SPEAKER_02 35:03

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 35:05

I'll send you pictures of those um Jules Holland albums.

SPEAKER_00 35:10

Yep. Okay, so Johnny Marr, he was born in October of 63. He was an English-born Irish musician, singer, and songwriter. He first achieved fame as a guitarist and co-writer of The Smiths that was active from 82 to 87. He since performed with other bands and and embarked on a solo career. Um he he was active from 82 to presently. Uh he was formerly of The Smiths, Electronic, Modest Mouse, The Pretenders, The Cribs, and the the uh cool.

SPEAKER_04 35:43

Um just a that's just a cool connection for me because I absolutely love Hans Zimmer and watching the video, he introduces Johnny Maher and he's like, uh, you know, this is my friend Johnny Maher, and and uh he introduced him after they just sing a um uh song from the movie soundtrack of The Thin Red Line, which is a very underrated World War II movie. And and so he introduces Johnny Maher and says, I only played that song because that's Johnny Maher's favorite, so I was able to get Johnny Maher to come on stage with us. And uh and so I thought that was cool, but for me, it's like I don't know who Johnny Maher is. Now I do. Very cool.

SPEAKER_00 36:22

Yeah, uh, and it's it's confirmed. So the Smiths attained commercial success and were critically acclaimed with Marr's jangle pop guitar style becoming a distinctive part of the band's sound, but separated in '87 due to personal differences between Marr and Morrissey. Since then, Marr has been a member of the Pretenders, The Electronic, Modest Mouse, and the Cribs. He has since become a prolific session musician, working with names such as uh Christy Mackle, Pet Shop Boys, Talking Heads, Brian Ferry, and Han Zimmer. So this so the band, so the guitarist for one of the guitars for the the has connections to Han Zimmer.

SPEAKER_04 37:02

Love it.

SPEAKER_00 37:04

So yeah, that's interesting. So it's like even just when you were talking about The, I was like, oh, okay, uh, I love this band. Uh, been into them for I actually heard them, uh I first heard them in college. The one album I listened to the most, I actually don't have it on vinyl because it it was never released on vinyl. Uh it's called Naked Self, and it's uh that was released in 2000. And that was actually one of the records that also made me want to write, made me want to like make my own music as well. I mean, I've always wanted to, but um the music you never talked about them in record club. I believe I have talked about them in record club. I believe I've got I yeah, yeah. Okay, I I I must have missed it or something. Um well it's it's a it'll be worth revisiting. Um I'd love it, yeah. Yeah. Uh yeah, the album is called Make Naked Self. It was only released on CD. Um, they didn't release it on any other platform, and it it they're only out of England, so it's like if so I think I got two copies of it. Uh I first heard the duh from when I was in college, a buddy of mine uh that I met on my dorm. He we were just sharing music back and forth, and he goes, You ever hear of the the? And I was like, I just kind of laughed. I was like, No, no, who are they? And he goes, Oh, they're great. And he just gave me a uh burn CD and he's like, just listen to this. And it was one of those records where or albums, when I put it in the CD player, I just left it in for probably about like a good year. I just listened to it non-stop and I I couldn't get enough of it. Uh reading up on that album, um, he only used vintage equipment, and this was in 2000. He only used equipment from the 60s when he made the record. So he used 60s guitars, 60s amps, 60s anything. And um, he just wanted to make it as vintage sounding as possible, but he wanted to use um as authentic equipment as he could find. And he he he's uh very prolific in his songwriting. The music is uh very captivating, it's uh tight, it's the vocals are very interesting. The guitar style has always uh captured my attention, even when I've listened to it for you know probably 15 years now. Um I it's one of those records where I I have the CD of it, but when I was able to find another copy of it, I think I found another copy at like a Goodwill for like, I don't know, like $2 or something. I was very happy just to have another copy of it because they only made the CD version of it. And I think on that one it also says like uh I think it's a demo copy from England and cool uh or a promo copy from England. Um yeah, they're great. I'll uh send you pictures of the albums and that I have of theirs. Um and uh Tom, uh my first drummer that I worked with in 2018, um, he was actually a big fan of the the as well. So that was one of our like bonding uh bands and with just just uh discussing music. And um when I was telling him about the studio build, he gifted me uh the the poster that he had. And he goes, I want you to put this up in your space. It'll be it'll be the first edition to your man cave.

SPEAKER_04 40:21

Uh where where is that poster?

SPEAKER_00 40:24

It's over there.

SPEAKER_04 40:25

Okay. We might have to put that up this weekend. Sure. Yeah. Um can you send me home with a the the album?

SPEAKER_00 40:32

Yes. Yes, thank you. Uh you can take the one that has um uh Johnny Maher on it.

SPEAKER_04 40:39

Nice. And I will listen to that and I will report back next week. And then yeah.

SPEAKER_01 40:44

Sounds good. And then so are you gonna cover the the next time, sure. Eric or more? Sure. Okay, that'd be cool.

SPEAKER_02 40:52

That would be cool.

SPEAKER_01 40:53

Do you remember about when you did it before? Like a couple years ago or something?

SPEAKER_00 40:58

Yeah, it was probably early, early on when we started Record Club, like maybe in like the first year that we did it. Because I remember I remember just talking about wanting to get a copy of Naked Self on vinyl, but they didn't have it. So I was just really grateful to have the CD versions of it. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 41:18

That's why like the recordings of Record Club will become a resource for me because sometimes I can't remember exactly who was what or what we talked about.

SPEAKER_00 41:29

Right. And and I think I think it's okay. I mean, we've been doing it for 10 years. There's gonna be things I forget too. For sure. Um, and so I'm just really grateful just to even revisit bands that we talked about because it's always fun revisiting um old bands that we've discussed, or you know, even when we talk about like forgotten bands and members and knowing about their history, it's also our own experience of those bands and that shared experience of talking about when we would hear about these bands or when we discuss them, or even just now making the connection between Johnny Maher and Han Zimmer. It's oh okay, cool.

SPEAKER_04 42:05

Yep. Yeah, so that that's a that'll be a good segue into our next segment here. We are gonna talk about the Bee Gees next.

SPEAKER_02 42:13

Oh, yeah, that's right. I forgot. Okay.

SPEAKER_04 42:15

Yep. So this was brought up last week, episode five. So if you didn't hear episode five, you should go back and listen to episode five. The Bee Gees. I so I grew up in the 90s, I was a kid in the 90s, became an adult in the you know, the next millennium. And I always I never listened to the Bee Gees. Sure. They had they had a name that I always associ I I don't know where the association came from, but I thought they were disco.

SPEAKER_00 42:46

And and I said that's they are, they were what they became disco.

SPEAKER_04 42:49

Yeah, and then that blew my mind. So I listened to Odessa all f all four sides yesterday and I laid on my couch, watched the Timberwolves basketball game with the volume muted while I listened to it. Listen to it very intently, and I absolutely loved it. And I did not hear any disco. I heard some folk in there, um, and just a lot of just different dynamics. Uh sometimes it got kind of fast, sometimes it got quiet and delicate, and I just I really, really enjoyed it. It was just it was just really good.

SPEAKER_00 43:28

Um and like the the Bee Gees, they basically uh popularized disco uh when it was happening. So it's like they're they're they have a wide range of capability. I think what's the guy's name is it? Barry is it Barry Gibb, Jerry? Yeah, Barry Andy. I can't remember all three of their names. Yeah, they're they're a trio. Right. And I believe all of Well they're brothers, yeah. Yeah, Barry Robin and Maurice Gibb. The trio was especially I thought one was Andy.

SPEAKER_01 44:12

Maybe I'm missing mixing them up with somebody else. I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 44:19

Yeah, they became very popular in the late 60s and early 70s as a they were predominant uh performers in the disco music era in the mid to late 70s. They did three-part harmonies that were very tight. Robin's clear vibrato and vocals were a hallmark of their early hits. Um while Barry's RB falsetto became their signature sound. I remember when I told you about uh Odessa and I said, just listen to the guy's voice. Like, listen to that. It's just it's like heartbreaking, it's beautiful, it's it pulls at your soul just listening to it. And I really, really enjoy the the vocal aspect and just the songwriting of them. And it's like what these it's beautiful, just utterly beautiful. Um and I first heard Odessa from you, Jerry. You actually let me borrow Odessa when we first started working together. That was in 2016. Um that's when I first heard Odessa, and I was very blown away by that. And um, same as you, where it was like I I only associated them with how I what I had heard of them. I mean, even and especially if it was through like tropes of disco and like Saturday night fever. Yep, yep. So it's like kind of just knowing what where the uh switch became their cultural identity just through um media at the time, and especially being in a later generation, it's like I I'm wrong about that, or it's how they're being represented is wrong for like what they've been.

SPEAKER_01 46:00

It's it's almost like you can't really fit them into any genre almost. They're what other bands like them? Nobody.

SPEAKER_04 46:08

Well, and the fact that they're kind of known for disco, but like when I listen to them, I did not hear disco. Right. So that immediately just shows their range of of capabilities, which I instantly am a fan now.

SPEAKER_00 46:21

Yep. Um there's uh an album, another album I'll let I'll send you home with it's uh it's called Idea. Okay, and I describe that album as like it's their uh revolver. Like I would I would equate those two. It's their version of Revolver, cool, and it is wonderful. It's and there's another album of them. Uh okay, there's a connection.

SPEAKER_04 46:46

For those of you that might not know, Revolver is a Beatles album. And in my opinion, one of their better maybe some people would argue at their best. Um it's the one that I got my kids hooked on. The first Beatles album I showed my kids was Revolver. So okay.

SPEAKER_00 47:04

And then there's actually a really great connection with horizontal. I was just gonna bring up horizontal. Yep. Um see. Because I think they're not list it's not listed, but he's uh I'm gonna just I'm gonna look this up real quick because it's worth not getting it wrong. Uh um See horizontal, it was uh It was released in '68, and it was included the International Hits of Massachusetts and World uh on the 5th of February 2007. Reprise Records reissued horizontal with both mono and stereo mixes on one disc and then a bonus disc of unreleased songs, non-album tracks, and alternate takes. That'd be interesting. Um see. I got the 68 Atcol crushing. The album was released in Polydor, uh on in Polydor to many countries of uh and the at and on at co only in the US and Canada. And The Sun Will Shine, backed uh backed by Really and Sincerely, was released as a single only in France. The influence displayed on the album ranged from the Beatles to Baroque Pop. So um there, let's see, background.

SPEAKER_01 48:26

I know I got them. I I wanted to put them right in the middle of my wall of all my albums on the wall. Their two, um uh the the precious uh what is it again? Rare Precious and Beautiful, volume one and two with the butterflies.

SPEAKER_00 48:48

Yep, yep. Um yeah, yeah, it's like their greatest hits albums, or it's like their their hits is there's like two versions of it. It's like yellow and purple. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 49:01

This I it seemed like I had the one color. I think I have I've got two of the yellow ones, but it took me a while to find the purple one or whatever. So I got them both right next to each other, right in the middle of the wall with all the other ones all around them.

SPEAKER_00 49:20

Um yeah, and I'm looking forward to uh uh if you could, Jerry, just if you could send us pictures of your wall, because I was I I like really appreciate just what albums you have on the wall. And it's uh and I'll uh I'll send you pictures of like what I have. My wall is very small, it's only just picture discs at this point, but um uh I think it'd be cool just to kind of show how we're displaying our records as well. Um the uh the interesting connection that I really, really enjoy about horizontal, the guitar playing on it is is absolutely it it's probably the it's probably the the finest guitar work I've heard on a Bee Gees album outside of the actual song structures themselves. The playing is um the actual playing and soloing is astonishing. And here's why. Um on the back of the album, the there's an additional guitarist in the band, and he's listed as Pete Salt on guitar. And later, later on, there'll be sources that would confirm that this is Peter Green. Oh wow, Fleetwood Mac. So Peter Green would play with uh the Bee Gees. Yep, yep. I knew I remember that.

SPEAKER_02 50:38

I remember when you said that, I'm like, that's right.

unknown 50:43

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 50:44

Cool connection.

SPEAKER_00 50:47

So yeah, the Bee Gees is one of those bands where it's like, I I think a lot of people may have wrongfully judged them based on what how they've been like presented or the tropes. Oh yeah, I did for sure. It took me a while.

SPEAKER_01 51:02

It's like, hey, wait. Yeah. Those guys are like right up there.

SPEAKER_04 51:07

That's what I thought last night. Like, these guys are very misunderstood.

SPEAKER_00 51:11

Yeah, yeah. And they did a lot more than just what they were popular for. And it's like once again, like knowing about their history and connections and uh the origin of origins of them, it's that's the beauty of it, where you see the real depth of the artist before they became popular for what they became popular for. Um yeah.

SPEAKER_04 51:32

So can we just quickly walk through the timeline of the Bee Gees? Um, like when when they were officially like formed, or maybe when their first album was released to their last to when um you mentioned like was it Saturday Night Fever? Yep.

SPEAKER_00 51:49

So the uh Yeah, yeah, I got like 12 of their albums. Yeah, that they have a very large history. So Okay.

SPEAKER_04 51:57

Well, we don't need to go through it.

SPEAKER_00 51:58

It might take a while.

SPEAKER_04 51:59

So let's start with uh their first album. Uh when was their first album released?

SPEAKER_00 52:04

Uh can we find that? I'll leave that up, Eric. Okay. Well, just to give a brief, brief overview of just some facts about them. Uh they were they were um active from 1958 to 2003. Uh they reformed in 2006, and then from 2009 to 2012. Did you say 58? Yeah. So 1958. That was when they were when they first became active. So you're talking, you know. They were kids when they started. Yep. So we're talking about the lifetimes of three people, and how would we necessarily yeah, all brothers? So how would we like briefly go over like the a quick history of someone's whole life?

SPEAKER_04 52:51

Where do you start you start drawing the line? Like, is do we need to start talking about the Bee Gees as being one of the what maybe not the, but one of the longest running bands of our time or of the last century?

SPEAKER_00 53:07

I would I wouldn't argue that. Um so like okay, so just on the history, so they were see.

SPEAKER_04 53:16

I mean, they were active for almost a half century.

SPEAKER_00 53:21

Um so in December of 1957, the boys began to sing in harmony. The story is told that they were going to lip sync lip sync uh to a record on the local uh Gourmont cinema. Only other child as only as other children have done on previous tracks, but they were running they were running to the theater and a fragile shellac 78 RPM broke. The brothers had to sing but received such a positive response from the audience that they decided to pursue a singing career. In May of 1958, they were known as the Rattlesnakes. Um the Rattlesnakes disbanded when Frost and Harrox left. Uh so the Gibbs brothers formed uh We Johnny Hayes and the Blues Cats with Barry, known as Johnny Hayes. In August of 68, the Gibb family, including older sister Leslie and infant brother Andy, born in March of 1958, immigrated to Australia and settled in Radcliffe, Queens, Queensland, just northeast of Brisbane. The young brothers began to form and raise pocket money. Speedway promoter uh and driver Bill Good had hired them, hired the brothers to entertain a crowd at Radcliffe Speedway in 1960, introduced them to the Brisbane radio presenter jockey Bill Gates. Uh the crowd at the Speedway would throw money at uh into the track of the boys who gently performed during the interview of the meetings or interval of the meetings. So like they kind of just started with just doing uh just doing vocals and just singing four people and they became recognized.

SPEAKER_02 54:57

Um let's see.

SPEAKER_00 55:01

Um so they would just kind of get money like given to them and they would just keep it uh they would just kind of keep it at that as pocket money for themselves. Um during the next few years, they began working regularly at resorts at the Queenland Queenland Queensland Coast. Uh, through his songwriting, Barry sparked an interest in Australian star Cole Joy, who helped the brothers get a record deal in 1963 at Festival Records subsidiary, uh Leadon Records, under the name Bee Gees. Uh the three released two or three singles in a year while Barry supplied additional songs under the Australian artists to other Australian artists. In 1962, the Bee Gees were chosen to support uh as a supporting act for Chubby Checker's concert at Sydney Stadium. From 63 to 66, the Gibb family lived at uh 171 Bonneron Road in Sydney. Just before his death, Robin Gibb recorded the song Sydney about the brothers' experience living in that city. It was released on his post-humous record, uh 50 Street uh Catherine's Drive. The house was demolished in 2016. So this is kind of going through like their whole history, like personally. Uh the history is quite large and expansive. Um the Bee Gees have sold uh an estimated 120 million to 250 million records worldwide, placing them among the best-selling artists uh of all time. So not only have they been active probably the longest, they're listed as as being some of the best-selling artists of all time, as well as the most successful trio in the history of contemporary music. Uh they were inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame in 1997, and and the Hall's citation stating at the time, quote, only Elvis Presley, the Beatles, Michael Jackson, Garth Brooks, and Paul McCartney have outsold the Beatles or the Bee Gees. So they were among that category of being the highest selling musicians ever.

SPEAKER_04 57:13

They're among the greats. People don't talk about them.

SPEAKER_00 57:17

Uh they have uh uh with nine number one hits on the Billboard Hot 100, the Bee Gees are the third most successful band in the Billboard charts history, behind only the Beatles and the Supremes. So they're in the top three.

SPEAKER_04 57:32

Supremes. Uh that'll have to be uh an episode conversation someday, too.

SPEAKER_00 57:36

Yep. Following Morris's death in 2003 at the age of 53, Robin, Barry and Robin retired from the group after 45 years of activity.

SPEAKER_02 57:46

Wow.

SPEAKER_00 57:46

However, uh in 2009, Robin announced that he and Barry had agreed to that the Bee Gees would reform and perform again. Robin died in 2012 at the age of 62, and Colin Peterson died in 2024 at age 78, leaving Barry, Vince uh Maloney, and Jeff Brigford, Bridgeford as uh the surviving members of the group. So Barry's the only one live now?

SPEAKER_02 58:15

Yep, yep.

SPEAKER_00 58:16

So I thought um so I have I don't know how many, I don't know how many records of the Bee Gees I have. I have quite a few of them. Um but all their stuff is great. I really enjoy their work.

SPEAKER_04 58:32

Um even the discount.

SPEAKER_00 58:36

They don't sound like anyone else. Okay, okay. I mean, just seeing like the um like you were saying, the range of their style. I mean, that's yeah, very impressive. And I mean, if I mean, what's wrong with disco?

SPEAKER_04 58:49

What's what's wrong with and I was gonna say that too, growing up, yeah. It was engraved in my brain that disco was lame, dumb, like disco some of the funnest music you can find. Disco was a meme before we had memes, like I feel like it was it was like a meme music.

SPEAKER_00 59:12

I know I fell for it too. And I think um it's a good representation of a time that we didn't experience firsthand. So I think that's the other piece of it. It's like I mean, what people might say is popular now is a joke in 25 years or 30 years. I got a box of disco.

SPEAKER_02 59:34

I mean, I still I pick up disco whenever I see it. Yeah. Um let's see.

SPEAKER_04 59:43

I love when I think disco, I just I think um the you know, disco ball, uh rollerblading.

SPEAKER_01 59:52

I'm thinking about getting a disco ball for my living room. Okay, nice. Um I've I've looked at them online before.

SPEAKER_04 1:00:00

John Travolta, Saturday Night Fever, like uh those are just like the the images that that I conjure up in my brain when I think disco and and and I'm almost like kind of saddened and disgusted that that image was implanted into me at what at a young age. Right, right. It's like I was programmed.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:18

Yeah. So it's like I was saying, it's like it's like what were the tropes that became the public, the the cultural perspective of what it was where it's there's more than that.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:27

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:28

Um music is timeless. Yeah. And it's also it's like just imagine what it would what what it would have been like to be able to move a culture through music and to completely shift uh your own your own style to associate with what you're wanting to do, even if it's unpopular, or if it becomes culturally uh massive on such a broad scale. I mean, I mean that's uh that's fascinating on its own.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:01

Um yeah. So uh the Bee Gees First, I do have that. Uh it's their first international album. It peaked at number seven in the US and number eight in the UK. So even just like their first record was it was massive. Like they instantly catapulted they were catapulted as soon as they started.

SPEAKER_04 1:01:24

Where where does Odessa fall in the lineage?

SPEAKER_00 1:01:28

Uh I think it's like their eighth record, I want to say. Let's see.

SPEAKER_04 1:01:33

And was it publicly well received, or was it kind of like a cast aside album during the time?

SPEAKER_00 1:01:41

Okay, so technically the Bee Gees first is their third record, but their first two records is the Bee Gees sing and play 14 Barry Gibbs songs, that was 1965, Spicks and Specs was 1966, The Bee Gees First was 1967, then Horizontal Idea, and then Odessa. So one, two, three, four, five. It was their sixth album, Odessa. Wow.

SPEAKER_04 1:02:06

Um so they got popular before Disco was even a thing.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:09

Oh, absolutely. Yeah, absolutely. And like I said, like horizontal, that's 1968. That's the same year as or that's two years after Revolver, and or no, it's two years after um Rubber Soul. I think that's the same year that Revolver came out was horizontal, and it sounds extra so so close. It's like were they influenced, were they moved by that, or did they happen to follow the same footsteps creatively as the Beatles during that time?

SPEAKER_02 1:02:39

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:39

Um Yeah, so as far as how many albums they have, one, two, three, four, five, six, seven.

SPEAKER_04 1:02:48

He's still counting.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:49

They have twenty-two they have twenty-two solo albums um for concert tours, uh eleven albums, and for uh they have a list of filmography where they've been uh featured, television shows and then videos. So they have quite uh an extensive uh web of connections uh just between their tours, their over 20 album catalog of records that they released. Um how did they get wrapped up in in disco? Like well, uh they were doing the they were doing the soundtrack for Saturday Night Fever, which was a massive movie as well.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:36

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:36

Um and this is before the release of Thriller by Michael Jackson, so so um Saturday Night Fever was the best-selling album in music history. Wow. Um it still ranks among one of the best selling uh soundtrack albums worldwide with sales figures over 40 million copies.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:58

You you said Saturday Night Fever?

SPEAKER_00 1:04:02

Yeah, I got a couple of those. Um they're they're easy to find. So prior to Thriller, this was the greatest album ever sold. So and this has a lot of different um uh a lot of different producers in it. Uh there's the Bee Gees, Carl Richardson, uh Albi Gallutin, Freddie Perrin, uh quite a list of people. Um let's see, there's yeah. So how did they get mixed up in it? It's like I think they were just a a part of they were so popular at that.

SPEAKER_04 1:04:42

Well, I think you kind of answered it with being involved with such a popular movie at the time that kind of represented that disco movement.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:50

They had no choice. And they were a big name, they were a big name already. This is '77. Well, they started in '65, so they had 12 years of history. And if you want to get, you know, John Travolta and these top, the top, top of everybody, you would want the BGs to be a part of it. Makes sense. It makes sense. It would be like if you're doing something now, yeah, you're gonna want uh big names to be a representation of it. Think of like uh uh in a way, I mean, think of like the like Ozzy's last show and the bands that were playing for that doing covers. It's like these are the biggest names that there are. Yeah. Yeah. And it's like, and that's after and consider some of those groups that have been popular for you know 30, 40 years, and it's a celebration of the time. Yeah. Um wow. So let's see. Three singles were contributed by the Bee Gees. It's How Deep Is Your Love, Staying Alive, and Night Fever, uh, along with uh Yvonne uh Eleman's If I Can't Have You, all reached number one in the United States and the UK, and it spent a cons eighteen consecutive. Weeks at number one, the album epitomized disco phenom the disco phenomenon on both sides of on both sides of the Atlantic, and it was an international sensation. So the album was added to the national rec recording registry by the Library of Congress in 2012 for being culturally, historically, and or aesthetically significant.

SPEAKER_04 1:06:22

Wow.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:22

So it's even registered by the Library of Congress as being like this is the most culturally and amazing thing that ever happened.

SPEAKER_04 1:06:30

Oh, it's legit now. It's been blessed by our government.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:34

Um let's see. And it's different when it's like uh, you know, recognized by being in like the rock and roll hall of fame and some of these other things, but even when like I said, it's like the most culturally significantly massive thing, but it's not just culture, it's it's a it's international. Yeah. This is a worldwide phenomenon. You could you could play it, you could play them in any country, and people would perk their ears up and know it. Even if they don't know anything about the bands, they know the songs. Yep, true. Um yeah. So let's see. The brothers wrote the songs virtually in a single weekend. The first song recalled uh recorded was If I can't have you, but the version, but their version was not used in the film. Barry Gibb remembered the reaction when Stigwood and the music producer Bill Oaks arrived and listened to the demos. They flipped out and said this'll be great. Uh they still we still have no concept of the movie except some kind of rough script when we when we when they bought them, when they brought with them. Maurice Gibb recalled, we played them a demo uh demo tracks of If I Can't Have You, Night Fever, and More Than a Woman. He asked if we could write more, write it more disco-y. Oh. The three brothers, uh the brothers Gibb then uh wrote a song called Saturday Night, but as Maurice explained, quote, there were so many songs called Saturday Night, not even one of the uh even one by the Bay City rollers. So we rewrote the movie and rewrote it for the movie and we called it Stayin' Alive. Wow. The track was recorded in Criteria Studios with Maurice Gibb playing a bass line similar to the guitar to the guitar riff, Barry Gibb and Alan uh Kendall on guitar on guitar riffs and Blue Weaver on Synthesizer. Barry chose to sing a falsetto on the whole song, except for the line, Life is Going Nowhere, somebody can help me. Uh Dennis Byron, who is the backing drummer, left in the middle of the session due to the death of his mother. So the group looked for a replacement. However, there was a shortage of qualified drummers in the area. They tried to reach they tried uh out a drum machine with unsatisfactory results. After listening to the drum track of the already recorded Night Fever, they took two bars from that track and re-recorded them as a loop.

SPEAKER_04 1:09:00

Wow. This is so cool.

SPEAKER_00 1:09:04

Um at the time, Saturday Night Fever with Greece held the record for biggest pre-orders in the Netherlands with 150,000 records sold. Uh so yeah, so let's see. Uh the original issue of the album included the original studio version of Jive Talken. Uh, later LP pressings would include the versions uh called From Here at Last, BG's Live. All CD releases have been have the original Jive Talken. Jive Talken has been used in deleted scenes uh taking places after a day after uh Tony Moreno's uh Manorose first hot Saturday night at the disco. But as uh as the sequence was cut out for the final film, the song was cut out as well. In addition to be to the Bee Gees song, additional incident uh incidental music was composed and adapted by David Shire. So there's a lot of history just with like um the history of this soundtrack. And yeah, so I think like gives you guys something to shoot for.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:11

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:11

You you could do a few disco songs and and and bring it back. Yeah, yeah. We could do anything.

SPEAKER_00 1:10:19

So I think like just being a part of a movement, and that's funny. Um I don't know. It's like it's like if a band only stays the same, it'll only reach that same audience. Yeah. So it's uh and especially like I said, like if they're 12 years in and they're already one of the most culturally or one of the biggest bands already hitting number one in multiple countries. It's like you have a the biggest movie coming out uh through a movie studio. It's like you're gonna want the best people to be a part of it. Yeah. And even just recognizing, make it more disco-y, where it's like, okay, we can do that.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:54

Wow.

SPEAKER_00 1:10:55

That's so cool. Yeah, so the but the Bee Gees, they're far, far more than just that. Um I like idea is a really wonderful album of theirs, Horizontal is Great, which uh interestingly enough features Peter Green, but he's not even listed as Peter Green, he's listed as Pete Salt.

SPEAKER_04 1:11:15

Really? So it's like they it's like so he changed his name for that album, but it's Peter Green from Fleetwood Mac, playing with the Bee Gees.

SPEAKER_00 1:11:24

Yeah. So and yeah, so it's just like the Bee Gees history is unique, it's interesting, the music is is breathtaking, it's captivating, it has such a vast range where it's like uh I remember even when I was when I first heard Odessa, I started like picking up all their albums I could find, and I'm like, I was wrong. I'm a fame, I'm a Bee Gees fan. Yeah, I was totally wrong. Yeah. I was like, and that's the best part of you know listening to music. It's like you're actually giving something a chance versus running with your initial impression, where it's like, have you listened to that album? Get listen to it and get back to me.

SPEAKER_04 1:11:59

But again, there's a difference from listening to something streaming on a YouTube or a Spotify platform and listening to it coming through your turntable, through some analog speakers, it's the best. It's just it's just like laying on my couch last night listening to Odessa. I would not have been able to enjoy if I was just listening to it on my phone or like through my car. It's just not the same.

SPEAKER_00 1:12:24

Just like smaller speakers and get a smaller range of sound. And uh there's a different level of attention when it comes to the music. When you're when you're taking it out of the jacket, you're putting it on the turntable, you might be cleaning the dust off of it right away. You're examining the record, you're reading, you're and you're the artwork of the record. It's like even just showing you the the albums or oh, that's a really cool cover. I'm like, Oh yeah, check this out.

SPEAKER_04 1:12:47

Um and Jerry a couple weeks ago, you mentioned like the magic that happens when the needle drops. And so now, like I think of that every time I drop the needle on a record, I'm just like Jerry's voice in my head, like it's just like magic that happens.

SPEAKER_01 1:13:01

There you go.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:02

Nope.

SPEAKER_04 1:13:04

Well, this has been uh a great episode of Record Club. Um Eric, what are you gonna listen to? Uh, what's the next record you're gonna listen to?

SPEAKER_00 1:13:15

Uh I actually think I might listen to uh the the album. Okay, cool.

SPEAKER_04 1:13:20

Jerry, what are you gonna listen to next?

SPEAKER_01 1:13:23

Well, I was just kind of looking around my living room here, thinking about like Eric said, take some pictures or whatever, yeah. Which I can do. But I was thinking I could I mean it's it's so much, it'd be a bunch of pictures. I should just do a little walkthrough video clip or something. Yeah. But the album I just grabbed is uh one I haven't listened to for a long time. It's a it's a group called Hydra. Came out in Capricorn Records.

SPEAKER_04 1:13:58

Cool. Never heard of them.

SPEAKER_01 1:14:00

Well, it's like uh six uh it's a six-headed snake uh coming out of a human body on the front. Cool.

SPEAKER_02 1:14:12

Cool.

SPEAKER_01 1:14:13

And I forgot it was on Capricorn.

SPEAKER_02 1:14:15

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 1:14:16

So uh you know, it's like I like I say it, you know, it's like I live in a record store. So cool.

SPEAKER_04 1:14:24

And hopefully I get I get sent home with a the the album and that'll be my next listen.

SPEAKER_01 1:14:30

Yeah, yeah. Maybe maybe a Herbie Man Bosanova.

SPEAKER_04 1:14:34

Oh yeah. Yeah. So Eric, uh when you walked away to grab the the the albums, uh we were talking about um we were talking about that.

SPEAKER_00 1:14:40

Oh yeah, yeah. So Herbie Man. I have I think 14 Herbie Man albums. Okay. So I can send you back with uh Memphis Underground as well. So I'll send you back with the with a couple of his.

SPEAKER_04 1:14:53

Sounds good.

SPEAKER_01 1:14:54

Yeah, yeah, I just I just brought it up um to Justin. I because I didn't know if you had filled him in at all on Herbie Man. I just wanted to make sure Justin knew about him. Yeah, yeah. But I was just thinking about uh the connection when Herbie Man and some of these other jazz guys went down to uh Rio de Janeiro and that kind of the Bossa Nova movement started then.

SPEAKER_02 1:15:19

Yep.

SPEAKER_01 1:15:23

Herbie Man's got a couple real good Bossa Nova ones and I was and and I've got both of them. I found out yesterday that the two good Bossa Nova ones buy them that I have already, so I'll probably listen to those two today.

unknown 1:15:41

Cool.

SPEAKER_04 1:15:41

Awesome. Well, this concludes this episode of Record Club.

SPEAKER_01 1:15:46

Yes, yes, I'll have to save this band I have uh once for another week.

SPEAKER_04 1:15:51

All right. Sounds good, Jerry. We'll talk to you next time.

SPEAKER_02 1:15:55

Okay, sounds good. Have a great day. Thank you, you too. Okay, okay, yeah, bye. Bye. That was Jerry.