The Magic Of Vinyl

In this episode, we discover the thrill of record collecting, from dollar-bin discoveries to unforgettable first listens. We share new discoveries by Blues Magoos, Lucifer’s Friend, Spooky Tooth, and more. Along the way, the conversation explores obscure psych rock, vintage pressings, live concert memories, 78 RPM records, and the magic of discovering music through vinyl. From Wishbone Ash to Primus, this episode is packed with hidden gems, musical connections, and pure love for the analog experience.

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Transcript

SPEAKER_00 0:02

All right, it is March 8th. Jerry, why don't you take us away with the stay in history?

SPEAKER_02 0:07

Okay, Today in History, born today, uh, Mississippi, John Hurt, 1892, uh Jim Bowton, who I don't know who that is, in 1939, uh Lynn Redgrave, 1943, Keith Jarrett, 1945. We know Keith Jarrett, and then Gary Newman in 1958. Gary Newman's a great, you know, punk rock, post-punk guy. I I don't know if I covered him yet, but I might cover him again or uh uh cover him. But okay. And uh one person died this date, uh Ron Pigpen McCurin from The Grateful Dead. He died in 1973. So that's kind of like, well, the band is still going then, I'm pretty sure. But okay. And uh events of this date, uh Good Golly Miss Molly by Lil Richard charts in 1958. Um, Aquarius Let the Sunshine In by the Fifth Dimension charts in 1969. Uh side note, uh, that was the first eight-track tape I ever bought to play in my car after I put an eight-track player in my car, Aquarius. Okay. And another event, Joe Fraser defeats Muhammad Ali in the fight of the century at Madison Square Garden in 1971. And Paul McCartney is fined $100 for growing cannabis on his Scottish farm in 1973. Uh okay, this is a this is a significant one on this date, 54 years ago today, Harry Nielsen recorded the song Without You. And it went to s right to number one, and that song became one of the most emotional hits of the 1970s. No, it's like he nobody else can do it like him. Yeah, right. Well, Harry Nielsen might have to come up one of these days too, but but that's it for the events of the day.

SPEAKER_00 2:23

Um, yeah, so I have a few records that I'm gonna talk about today. Um, I'm not gonna go too deep because I I don't know a ton on these artists, but I just got back from my work trip in Florida. I hit up a record store and I want to talk about that.

SPEAKER_02 2:39

Um for real, too. And plus you can you can totally do a deep dive into any or all of them and cut and come back with them too. So that's cool. Right.

SPEAKER_00 2:48

No, I I think I'll just share my experience and just how fun it's been. Oh, yeah, yeah. Uh on my record collecting journey. So I know uh Eric, you got anything today?

SPEAKER_01 2:58

Yeah, I got uh a couple bands I'm gonna talk about and um a start of a deep dive for a band that I've uh been appreciating more recently, uh just after you know getting more into their records and actually finding them. So I got uh three bands I'm gonna be talking about today.

SPEAKER_00 3:17

Okay. All right, Jerry, what do you got today?

SPEAKER_02 3:20

Uh I have a uh obscure psych rock album, and I've got a uh a group that I have had for a long time and just found out something about them recently, and maybe just touch on one other band if there's time.

unknown 3:38

Sure.

SPEAKER_00 3:38

All right. That sounds fantastic. I think we have an action-packed, fully loaded episode of Record Club today.

SPEAKER_02 3:47

This might be in its own category, I was just gonna mention, because I've been thinking about it lately. Uh we talked kind of about the magic of the needle drop. Okay. My perspective of that, and just okay. I grew up in the late 50s, 60s, and early 70s. And during that time, there was radio, there was television, there was landline phones. No other no other thing could I listen to whenever I wanted as much as I wanted as albums. So it was like the albums were almost like that was an amazing. I mean, that was like today they're like uh technology-wise, like ancient, but back then they were like really magic.

SPEAKER_00 4:44

Very good. Yeah, all right. Well, let's do the mission statement.

SPEAKER_01 4:49

All right. In the name of Wax as an exclusive record club for music lovers of the analog format through sharing experiences, memories, discoveries, and emotions tied to the albums. Our goal is to build continued appreciation for forgotten bands and members by understanding more of their histories and connections. We reinforce our bond with club members for love of the groove.

SPEAKER_00 5:12

Amen.

SPEAKER_01 5:13

Yes, very good.

SPEAKER_02 5:15

Yes, we're animation from God to quote John Beluffy.

SPEAKER_00 5:21

We are here to spread vinyl good news to the masses.

SPEAKER_02 5:27

Yes, yes. And uh, I don't know, Justin, did you overhear me and Eric talking about anything?

SPEAKER_00 5:34

Uh yeah, just a little bit. I I heard about all the all the friends of yours and connections that are excited for uh our podcast. So yes.

SPEAKER_02 5:43

Yes, and well, the one friend from the cities, he goes to the UK pretty regularly. Um his son lives there. He he texted me yesterday, you know, he said he got he he I mean he knows I'm in a divine on, you know, uh, but he said he picked up something for me in the UK that I might like. So I'm thinking, gee, so he t tells his son over in the UK this might go international.

unknown 6:09

Cool.

SPEAKER_00 6:10

Yeah. Well, and that kind of segues into um like my whole story and my journey now, too. I've been, you know, when I when I go to record stores and I'm looking through records, I'm picking out records that I recognize from Record Club. Like these are artists that I never even knew existed, but like I I picked up several records this week where it's like, oh, I heard I heard Jerry talking about these guys. Oh, I heard Eric talking about these guys. So um if you don't mind, can I just kind of go into um can I go first and just kind of talk about that experience? Absolutely.

SPEAKER_02 6:40

Before you explode, yes.

SPEAKER_00 6:42

Yes.

SPEAKER_02 6:43

Um I know the feeling. Okay.

SPEAKER_00 6:46

Yeah. So uh I had to travel to Gainesville, Florida. Um, it's a college town in Florida. Um not on the not on the ocean at all. It's you know, you know, inland. Uh I scoped around a couple stores. There was uh one store called Second and Charles, which is a um when I walked in, it actually reminded me of like a like a Borders bookstore, sort of. Uh they got books, movies, games, um, just a lot of secondhand, like fun stuff. Uh they even had instruments there, but then they had a a vinyl collection. They also had a huge CD collection too, which was kind of fun. I I went through some of their CDs. Um didn't see anything, but I I was actually looking for tool CDs just because I I had those didn't find any though. Um, but anyway, so going through the records, so from that store, uh I found a um C-Train album, which again had not heard about until I heard Eric mention C-Train. So I I I picked that up. Um I also picked up a Moody Blues album. Uh it was it's got what's Moody Blues featuring uh an orchestra and it's got Nat uh Knights in White Satin in it, which is one of my favorite Moody Blues songs, so I that was the main reason why I picked up that album. And I grew up listening to it, so uh my mom was a fan of Moody Blues, so there's just a kind of a family connection there. Um let's hear what else? Uh oh, I picked up uh I wanted a copy of Revolver by the Beatles. Um that was also as like my way of getting something for my kids while I'm down there too, but uh um selfishly getting it for me as well. Yes, yes. Uh because they they do like that album.

SPEAKER_01 8:44

It was actually their uh first Beatles album that they listened to while they were here. Yes.

SPEAKER_02 8:50

I know, I remember that story.

SPEAKER_00 8:53

Yep.

SPEAKER_02 8:54

Good.

SPEAKER_00 8:54

Um oh yeah, uh I picked up a copy of Iron Butterfly uh live and it includes the Indagata Davida, which is you know, I obviously like one of their biggest hits. But um have you spun the have you spun these yet? Yes, yes. That's the other that's the other fun part too that I'm gonna get into. Nice. Okay, okay. Um when I was 14 years old, maybe I'll no, I think I was 16. Uh I was in high school, I was at a buddy's house, and his old man had a record player with a bunch of CDs. So one of the very first uh albums that I ever listened to on vinyl was Iron Butterfly, and he played me in the guide of Vita. And so when I when I saw this record, it was it kind of hit home to me, and I wanted a copy of it. So a lot of my finds were just me looking at something. It's like, yes, I I need to own that.

SPEAKER_02 9:49

Yes, yes. Uh now, Justin, just to check, has Eric uh explained to you why your record collection is the best record collection?

SPEAKER_00 10:02

My personal record collection, or just just in general, like anybody's record collection is their yeah, because it's your record collection. Nope, that makes sense. That makes sense. Um okay, so that was that was day one. And what was funny too is I was researching ahead of time and I'm driving back to my hotel, and I was I was planning on just going to the hotel, and here I see second and charles, so I literally like whipped a U-turn and then pulled it. I was like, oh my god, there's a place right there. So just uh just on a whim, I I went in, probably spent an hour in there just going through all the records. Um they were all kind of just mixed together, young and old. Um, so you really had to, but it was the tell was you know, if it's in a um if it was in a plastic sleeve, I looked at it because I knew it was probably older. And if it didn't, more than likely it had a you know a newer factory cellophane wrap on it.

SPEAKER_02 11:03

Um and so if they're in factory sleeves, a odds are they came from a collection.

SPEAKER_00 11:08

Yeah, yeah. So I pretty much I stay away from I've been staying away from anything that's pressed after 1985. I just I don't know, I just I haven't really looked at anything like that. I kind of stay away from greatest hits or like compilations or like movie soundtracks, and so like I I go in kind of knowing what I'm looking for. I'm looking for something pressed in the 60s or the 70s, um, something kind of obscure. Um so anyway, it was really fun digging through all that, and those are the records I found there. And then on my last day there, I had a few hours to kill before before going to the airport. I found another record store, like a real record store this time called Sunshine Records. Um and again, I I walk in and just real good vibe. They've you know, they got some good jazz playing, um, you know, from a turntable, so they were they were doing it right. Um and uh I found some really good stuff in this place too. Um, you know, when you walk in, uh Eric said check out the new releases. So just as you walk in, like boom, like it hits you, like new releases are right there. So I spent some time going through the new releases. Um and in the new release bin, I picked up uh a Lucifer's Friend album. Because again, I heard Jerry talking about it. So this was the album Banquet.

SPEAKER_02 12:39

Nice. That's their probably their second best one.

SPEAKER_00 12:42

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 12:43

That's a good one to get, yes. Well, anything of them would be good, but yeah.

SPEAKER_00 12:48

And I and I listen and I listened to it last night, and holy crap, like I just I still laugh at the band name too, because if someone were to just play me the music and say, like, you know, guess this band's name, like I would lose the first friend. Like, it does not match the music.

SPEAKER_02 13:07

Not really with that album. Yeah, you're right. They they they were doing some more experimental stuff on that album, but it's a great album.

SPEAKER_00 13:15

Yeah, but it's like it's good, like it's it's like it's like feel-good music, it's not doom and gloom, like satanic oh worship a devil. Like, it's nothing like that.

SPEAKER_02 13:24

I know. Yeah. Well, hopefully someday you can get their their first one, which is uh well, I mean, you know the group, so you'll whenever you run across them, you'll probably nab him.

SPEAKER_00 13:36

Yep, yep. Um then I found the dollar bin. Oh the dollar bin. The dollar bin. Um, I think I end up taking home eight records from the dollar bin. Um and again, some of them were like, I I just I just have to grab this because, well, for one, it's a dollar. Um I grabbed I grabbed Wild One, which is an album by the Guess Who. Nice. Oh, okay. Chunga's Revenge by Frank Zappa. Nice. Yep.

SPEAKER_02 14:12

Um surprised that was in a dollar bin.

SPEAKER_00 14:16

I know. Uh well, I think some of these dollar bin ones, just the the quality, like the cover and the the vinyl quality, I think was probably the leading factors. Um, some of yeah, some of these the the vinyl didn't look the best, but um like what Eric always says, like it surprisingly plays pretty well.

SPEAKER_02 14:36

Right, right. And plus if you run across a better copy, you got a backup copy too.

SPEAKER_00 14:42

So I got a copy of Eliminator by Z Top. Good. Um Spooky Tooth. Sweet, which one? Um Witness. Okay, yeah, was in the um oh wait, no, uh, I take that back. Sorry, Spooky Tooth was not in the dollar bin. I bought this one for eight dollars. That's all right.

SPEAKER_02 15:00

That's still good, okay.

SPEAKER_00 15:01

Yeah, um, yeah, and uh my mom has talked about Spooky Tooth, so she was a fan of them.

SPEAKER_02 15:07

Well, your mom she sounds pretty cool.

SPEAKER_00 15:10

Yeah, she is. Uh also for $8, I picked up um Electric Light Orchestra. Nice. The uh the the one with the um the Ruby slippers on the cover, the the Wizard of Oz cover. Uh El Dorado. Yeah, yeah. Yep. So I saw again, I saw that. Uh like Eric has that one. Like, I'm I'm gonna get it. I don't care.

SPEAKER_01 15:31

Yep, good job. El Dorado is my uncle's favorite album, uh, right next to Animals. Okay. Wow. These two are like the greatest albums ever made. Cool.

unknown 15:41

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 15:42

Uh also for a dollar, I picked up Vanilla Fudge.

unknown 15:46

Ooh.

SPEAKER_03 15:48

That's surprising, too.

SPEAKER_00 15:49

The uh the beat goes on.

SPEAKER_02 15:52

I have to see the front of the counter before I I can't I always forget the names of all.

SPEAKER_00 15:56

So it's it's it's uh it's a black jacket. Um in there's a lot of foreign, it's like some Japanese and looks like maybe some like Arab uh and Thai um just like the lettering from multiple different languages. Um so that's kind of cool.

SPEAKER_01 16:16

And it sounds familiar.

SPEAKER_00 16:18

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 16:19

I think that's one of their later albums. Okay.

SPEAKER_00 16:24

Uh I picked up a Nazareth album again.

SPEAKER_02 16:27

Yeah, good good job. Is that your first Nazareth?

SPEAKER_00 16:30

Yes.

SPEAKER_02 16:31

Good, good, good.

SPEAKER_00 16:32

Picked out for eight dollars. It's uh Expect No Mercy album. Oh yeah, like a picture of like the like the demon with the horns and the sword. Great cover, yeah. Yep. Um it was kind of cool. The the the the inner sleeve that that the that the um that the record is in is like a copy of the same like album. So it's not just like a white, sure, a white sleeve.

SPEAKER_02 16:57

It was actually a bonus when that happens, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 17:01

Um let's see here. Also in the dollar bin, uh, picked up uh Crosby Stills and Nash and Young, uh four-way street. Ooh, that that's a live one.

SPEAKER_02 17:10

Oh, that's a great one to start with there.

SPEAKER_00 17:13

It's a live and it's a double, and it actually came with a with uh uh with a bonus uh disc in it that I don't think was meant to go with it. Um Buffalo Springfield. Uh it's a Buffalo Springfield uh record that was like you did good there.

SPEAKER_02 17:35

Good.

SPEAKER_01 17:35

Uh Neil Young was originally in Buffalo Springfield. Okay, you might have another uh uh bonus Neil Young album in there.

SPEAKER_00 17:45

Yeah. Um and so I I listened to uh just because I I felt like I was in a hurry to listen to as much as because I was so excited to listen to some of these albums. So I I didn't sit and listen to all four sides, so I just listened to I listened to the back side of the second disc because it it had uh it had Southern Man on it. And um so I listened to that and that was like a seven minute, seven-minute recording rendition of it. Uh very, very good. Um the the record itself looked like crap, but it played pretty well.

SPEAKER_03 18:24

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 18:25

Um another one that I'm really excited for. Um I feel like a little bit of a let's hear in the sports world, you'd call this a homer, someone who just like roots for their own team. But uh I bought a Led Zeppelin album. And um, again, it had to fit my criteria. It's not gonna be a new pressine. So I found Houses of the Holy, a 1973 original pressine, for 20 bucks. Nice. So I bought it and and it looked really good, and uh it's in really good condition. So I I I was excited for that, and I did listen to that. I did listen to that one because I very good. I mean, I I know Zeppelin is like really over talked about, overplayed, blah blah blah. Um, but they I grew up with them being one of my favorites class, like they were the band that got me into classic rock, just like a lot of people in my yeah.

SPEAKER_02 19:19

Well, there's a reason they get overplayed because they're they're good, they're on top, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 19:24

Yep. Yep. So it was just it was really enjoyable to listen to some of my favorite classic rock on vinyl. So that was a lot of fun.

SPEAKER_02 19:32

Yeah, that made your trip. I mean, can you imagine your trip if you didn't do all that record diving?

SPEAKER_00 19:38

Well, it would have been boring. I would have been I would have came back saying, like, oh yeah, I've had to you know go to Florida, I didn't even get to go to the beach, and my flight got delayed three hours coming back. Whoop-de-doo. True story, by the way. Um but uh but yeah, so it was a lot of fun. And then I have uh another record that I just wanted to talk about quick that I have not mentioned yet. Oh, uh, I'll mention this album that I actually brought. Uh this band is called Back Door. Jerry, have you heard of them? They're jazz.

SPEAKER_02 20:17

It doesn't sound familiar to me. Do what label is it on?

SPEAKER_00 20:21

They are on uh Warner Brothers. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 20:27

Yeah, I don't know that band, I don't believe.

SPEAKER_00 20:29

Yeah, they're from England, and this record here was pressed in 73. Um, they're a three-piece. Uh they have a drummer, a bass player, and a saxophone player. Cool. And and so I actually I listened to this yesterday too. Um, it sounds really good. They were good. Um I was kind of in the kitchen. This was my background uh music. Um, but it was very good. It actually um it kind of reminded me a little bit of of Bukowski, just like how Jerry uh Eric and I play music. Um, but they did it in more of like a jazz style where you had um yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 21:10

And this is good that you it's good that you grab something that you never heard of, like you started out with the ones you hear Eric and I talk about.

SPEAKER_03 21:19

Exactly.

SPEAKER_02 21:20

But I'm glad you don't limit yourself to that because there's all you're gonna discover all kinds of other stuff that Eric and I have never seen.

SPEAKER_00 21:28

And it doesn't stop here. Um so and this is a promotional copy. So one of the reasons why I grabbed this album because again, Eric has shown me like promo copies are kind of cool to have. Um so it it's got a big promo copy sticker on it, and then on the record, it's got the white label on the the white labels are the for the yeah, they're the genuine uh promos.

SPEAKER_02 21:52

Yep.

SPEAKER_00 21:53

Um, and then another one that I got. So this next record, I'm gonna kind. Kind of talk about kind of the way like that that you do. I'm not gonna tell the name right away. Um so this one. Let's see here. Where's the pressing date on this one? So I've I've got it in front of me right here. Um dang it. I thought I saw the date. Um anyway, so it's in the 60s. Um it's on Mercury Records. Have you guys heard of Mercury Records?

SPEAKER_02 22:29

Which a good label. Yep.

SPEAKER_00 22:31

Um okay, so I picked up the debut album of this band. Um, and so it says it's the newest and most exciting group in the last five years. And so again, I think this was um I want to say it was like 67 when this was pressed. Um anyway, um, let's see here. Thousands of you who have seen them perform and who have made this album possible knew very well that they are the foundation of the new music revolution. For those that have not yet experienced the psychedelic sounds, we invite you to listen and become part of the recreation. So these guys were like early pioneers in psychedelic um in the 60s. And I know maybe you guys have heard of these guys, but I have not. Um let's see here. Taking over the minds and imaginations of the critics, the poets, the writers, the artists, the groupies, the record executives, the disc jockeys, and even Madison Avenue. Their following continues to grow in size above ground as well as underground. While playing at Chessmate Club in Detroit, recently over 7,000 people came in uh in just 12 days, which is staggering considered the club's capacity is 300.

SPEAKER_02 23:53

Are they American?

SPEAKER_00 23:57

Um, I I I want to say they are uh oh I'll get back to I thought I read that they are American, um, but I might I might be mistaken. Um because they looks like they did some tours in England and Japan. Okay. This album name is called Psychedelic Lollipop.

SPEAKER_02 24:23

Oh, you got a good one.

SPEAKER_00 24:25

Yep. You know the band.

SPEAKER_02 24:26

Yep.

SPEAKER_00 24:27

Yep. Who is it?

SPEAKER_02 24:29

Uh I I could go, I could go look through my bees and find it. I don't know if it's a blues project or uh blue uh uh I think Eric's got it.

SPEAKER_00 24:38

I think it's a yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 24:40

Uh blue. We just talked about them like maybe a month ago or something.

SPEAKER_00 24:43

Yes, yep, blues Magoos.

SPEAKER_02 24:46

Yes, yeah, you got a great one there. Have you listened to it?

SPEAKER_00 24:49

Yes, I did. I I was in the kitchen. I was again, this was gonna be just background noise, and but maybe a minute in I stopped and went into the living room and sat down. Nice. Um it caught my attention and I couldn't get back up. I had to I had to keep listening because I just wanted to hear what was gonna come next.

SPEAKER_02 25:14

Yeah, that that that record will be kind of a cornerstone of your collection.

SPEAKER_00 25:20

Yeah, and guess what? I I found this in the dollar bin. Really?

SPEAKER_02 25:24

For one dollar see, that's what happens. That's what that's what keeps me going back when it when 90% of the time there's nothing, it's the chance of something like that happening that keeps me going.

SPEAKER_00 25:39

Yeah, yeah, so very excited for that. Um, I also picked up another one. I have not listened to this one, nor have I heard of these guys. Um and so I'll just come out and and ask if you guys have heard of the Fugs. Oh yes.

SPEAKER_02 25:57

Oh, yeah, we just did we just covered those, or I covered those maybe I don't know, a month or two ago.

SPEAKER_00 26:02

Okay. So this is the Fugs Alive at the Filmore East.

SPEAKER_02 26:07

Um did you listen to it?

SPEAKER_00 26:10

No, I have not listened to this yet.

SPEAKER_02 26:12

So okay, we won't say anything until you listen to it. Okay.

SPEAKER_00 26:16

Uh the album cover is really cool. It's kind of like it looks hand-drawn, kind of cartoony. It says Golden Filth on a on a trash can. Um very cool.

SPEAKER_02 26:27

Um was that a dollar, Ben?

SPEAKER_00 26:30

Uh no, I no, this one was ten dollars. So I kind of uh this was probably the most that I spent on uh on an unknown album. I really didn't know about these guys, but I just saw it.

SPEAKER_02 26:40

Yeah, you you yeah, your judgment's good. That's good.

SPEAKER_00 26:43

Um again, like it fit the criteria where it was uh a vintage pressing, um kind of obscure, but it looked kind of cool. Um and then just playing at Fillmore and let's see, what um uh oh Reprise Records, which I think I've heard us talk about Reprise before.

SPEAKER_02 27:04

Yeah, they're a major label, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 27:06

Um, which looks like they're a division of Warner Brothers.

SPEAKER_02 27:10

Um like like you've you've come a long way in a short period of time.

SPEAKER_00 27:15

Thank you. Um yeah, so that that kind of sums it up. So uh so yesterday um sat down. I listened to a lot of records yesterday. Uh a couple of them uh I would skip there's a couple records I skipped ahead and just wanted to listen to just a couple things that I recognized because I just I didn't have time to sit down and listen to all this yesterday. So um but let's see here. So I think the only ones that I think Yeah, the Fugs. The Fugs I did not listen to. Um YOLO I did not listen to yet. I mainly because I've already listened to it before with Eric. Um yeah, the Fugs I had not listened to yet. I have not listened to Spooky Tooth or Frank Zappa. Okay. Um, but a lot of the other ones I've um listened to, I listened to it.

SPEAKER_02 28:16

I'll be I'll be excited to hear about your um after you listen to the Fugs, I'll be excited to hear.

SPEAKER_01 28:23

Okay. Yeah. Same with uh Spooky Tooth. Uh Spooky Tooth is uh one of the groups where I just picked them up. I I found them at a thrift store and it was like a really, really small pile. It was like maybe like five or six records, and I saw Spooky Tooth's Spooky Two, which was actually their um second record and grabbed that and same thing like how you were talking about Blues Magoos, where I'm listening to it and I just didn't I I couldn't do anything else. I just found myself just like totally enthralled and just like just totally focused on the music that I'm listening to.

SPEAKER_02 29:02

That's the way to do it.

SPEAKER_01 29:04

And uh yeah, that's a really great feeling when something captures you um naturally like that, when you're not even expecting it, but then it you're just in it.

SPEAKER_02 29:14

Yeah, yeah. I mean it's a physical reaction.

SPEAKER_03 29:17

Yeah, exactly. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 29:19

Yeah. So that um yeah, that that about concludes uh my my story here from from my from my trips.

SPEAKER_02 29:28

Man. Derek and I are gonna have to be careful. You're you're gonna pass us up. If you keep going at this rate.

SPEAKER_01 29:37

I'm uh I'm really glad that you didn't just stop at one record store, but then you stopped at another one, and that you're open to seeing something that you didn't, like Jerry said, that you didn't just grab stuff that you and that you've heard through us. Because I mean, Jerry and I we talk about all the time where we we learn more from uh what we don't know, and then how often do we hear do you hear us talk about like I didn't know anything about this group that I just happened to grab it and I was blown away by it? And that's like those are the best finds, like the ones that you don't know anything about, but you're like, I'll just take a chance on it. Yeah. Um I'm really glad that you got Blues Magoose. They're uh an amazing group.

SPEAKER_02 30:15

And um Yeah, and a hard to yeah, and you got it for a dollar. I mean, that's gonna be a memory that you'll always have. Getting that getting that for a dollar.

SPEAKER_00 30:25

Okay, and funny story. When I first looked at that record, I thought the uh uh band name was Psychedelic Lollipop. Just because the way that the way that it's printed on the on the cover, psychedelic lollipop is top. Um, and I think I don't know, it it just looked like that was the band name. So that that's kind of what caught my eye. I'm like, oh, who are these guys? Psychedelic lollipop.

SPEAKER_02 30:50

And I don't know, Eric might be able to correct me on this if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure that album was the very first album to have the word psychedelic on it.

SPEAKER_01 31:01

I was just gonna say that same exact thing, and yes, that that is the first album to use the word psychedelic. Cool. Yep.

SPEAKER_00 31:08

So and I got it for a dollar.

SPEAKER_02 31:12

That'll be a story that you'll always have. I mean, that's a great story. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 31:17

Yeah. So uh in total, with with both stores, um, I mean, I honestly I didn't even count the number of records that I walked away with, maybe 20. Because I I bought four at Second in Charles, and then at the other store at uh like 10 or 11 or something. So um, and then in total, I I spent about 140 bucks on all of them. Um, and I my most expensive album was the Led Zeppelin, Houses of the Holy, and that was 20 bucks. Um, I think the uh Lucifer's Friend was 15. Everything else was um, well, two of them were like ten dollars and a couple eights and then a bunch of ones. So I I feel like I didn't overspend for like one particular one. Like yeah, like it all kind of adds up, but um I'm also I'm a guy that has a very small record collection, and this was like my kind of like another like initial investment to try to like bulk up my record collection a little bit. So um I I think it was a I think it was a good investment. And now after talking with you guys, it sounds like my best record was the one dollar record.

SPEAKER_02 32:31

Yeah, yeah. I mean I mean, whenever you're kind of like you know, thinking about uh not finding anything or whatever, you'll remember that one time and then it'll happen again at some point if you keep it up, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 32:48

It's getting addicting now.

SPEAKER_02 32:49

So yeah, I thought that when you when you texted uh you guys got me in trouble.

SPEAKER_00 32:56

Yeah, they could be make poor financial decisions here. But it's like fishing, and it's like you you you go fishing with a buddy a couple times. Oh, this is really fun, and then you finally get your own boat and you take yourself out to a lake by yourself and you start slaying fish. Like that's that's how I feel right now.

SPEAKER_02 33:13

Yeah, you were slaying them. Good job.

unknown 33:15

Yep. All right.

SPEAKER_02 33:17

I don't know how you could stand holding holding back for a week to talk about it.

SPEAKER_00 33:21

It was tough. I was really excited. I I woke up early yesterday and started listening to records, so it was it was really good.

SPEAKER_02 33:28

Yeah, Eric and I didn't have a chance of going first today. You had to do it.

SPEAKER_00 33:33

Well, I appreciate that. And with that, I will yield my time to uh I'll I'll popcorn to Eric.

SPEAKER_01 33:40

Okay. Okay. All right. So uh last week I went with a buddy of mine and he wanted to get rid of a couch. So I was like, all right, I'll I'll help you get rid of a couch. And uh I was like, where do you want to take it? And he's like, Oh, I'll I'll take it to Savers. And I instantly thought of Jerry, because I was like, that's where he gets all of his records in to lose. And I was like, and I don't have the chance to go to Savers very often. And uh uh dropped off the couch and I was like, uh for a service fee, I'm gonna go look for records. And my buddy just laughs. He's like, he's like, I got you, man. And we walked went through, I didn't find anything, but I did find a um like a suitcase style uh turntable that's a phonograph, and it plays 78s. And I took it to the front desk and I asked if I could plug it in to see if it worked, and it did. And I went through the cycles of like the um the speed change, the speed selector, and it was working and functioning. And what was interesting about this, it made me think of uh the turntable that you saved from that house. Um it has uh a needle that you can rotate on the cartridge between 78 and 33, so it has two needles built into the cartridge.

SPEAKER_02 34:57

Yeah, I've heard of those.

SPEAKER_01 34:58

And I was just impressed with that on its own. And I was like, okay. And I just kind of lightly rubbed my finger on the 78 side and sound came out. I was like, all right, this is gonna be what I'm gonna use to listen to 78s with. Got it home, and I I grabbed uh a 78 uh album, which is a four-book album uh booklet of 78s, and it's like a jazz collection from 1927, and I I listened to it and it it I was just the feeling was just it was it was a level of like happiness and like being proud of like I'm glad I saved these because there's times where you know, like if you have something and you can't listen to it, then what's the point of keeping it? And I was like, well, I'm gonna get something eventually to play this, and I want to be able to hear what's on here. And I I think that just keeping this album collection, which going back to that book of the preservation and restoration of of media, of audio media, it talks about how uh LPs they were like the reason reason why we call them albums is because it's because of those 78s, because they were a book of of uh discs, and that constituted the album, like a photo album, but it's four to five discs, and then that's the actual album itself. So LP became an album because you're able to play an album's worth of 78s on one disc, and that was where that term kind of carried over. And I was thinking, okay, this is just uh a piece of history just to demonstrate that uh in a real sense where I can actually listen to this record or listen to this album, and it was a really fun experience. So that was a cool thing that I found at Sabres. Um it was like 20 bucks, I think, for it. And I was like, all right, this is a wonderful piece of equipment, as well as like retaining the historical value that that it actually represents. Um and then afterwards and afterwards we went to the electric fetus because I didn't find any records there, and I got a pretty good haul of um of Brian Augur and Brian.

SPEAKER_02 37:28

Oh yeah, I saw you texted that. I'm like, geez, he's got a bunch of Brian Augur there.

SPEAKER_01 37:33

Yep. And I don't, and as much as I like Brian Augur, I don't see him very often. Um when I go to like record stores and and they weren't even really that expensive. They were like, you know, five to somewhere, five to like eight dollars per record. And I saw probably like five or six of them that I didn't have, and I was like, I'm just gonna.

SPEAKER_02 37:52

And and I don't know of any bad Brian Augur album.

SPEAKER_01 37:56

Exactly. And um, so it was fun. Like I was able to get um albums of his that I of theirs that I didn't have and that I'd never seen. Um, but my first exposure to Brian Auger was actually Brian Augur and the Trinity, and and then Jerry, you talked about Brian Auger and the Oblivion Express, and I was just reading up a little bit about Brian Auger and the Oblivion Express, and he actually named the band The Oblivion Express because he didn't think it was gonna last like at all. So I was like, we're just gonna go to Oblivion, we're gonna go there very quickly, and so you never expected it to last, but it became his mainstay was this jazz fusion progress. It's great.

SPEAKER_02 38:43

Anything Brian Auger's got is great. I can listen to him anytime, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 38:47

Yeah, so I listened to um Closer to It, which was one which is I think their third album that they did, and I listened to um their volume one of their live stuff, and it was just very impressive. I really appreciate his organ work. I mean, just the way that he uh he's basically orchestrating the rest of the band, but he does it minimally. He it reminded me of um of uh Count Basie, where it's like he doesn't have to do a lot to be creating a lot. Um so just kind of hearing how he's kind of like cradling the bass and then letting the guitar kind of create all these really wonderful textures over the top of it, and then the drums are just kind of driving uh driving underneath Brian Auger, where Brian Auger is really um changing the tempo or changing the pace or slowly building it up, and it he does it very minimally, and it was like, oh god, this is amazing. And then when he starts soloing himself, it's like you can just tell like the rest of the band pulls back and they're like, All right, let's let him go. And it was, yeah, it's really, really enjoyable. And um, I just got a a deeper, uh, a much deeper appreciation for Brian Auger, and it was fun um being at the fetus, and I just went through all their youth used section, and any Brian Auger I just cleaned out. I was like, I'm just gonna grab all these. So I think I have maybe five or six more albums of his that I didn't have before. And I also found a um uh Brian Auger in the Trinity album that I didn't have. It's called uh Definitely What, and I think that's their second album. I'll have to double check, but I haven't listened to it yet, but I'm excited to uh explore more of that.

SPEAKER_02 40:39

Um I mean Brian Auger, it's for sure one of those that nobody else sounds like him.

SPEAKER_01 40:49

Right, right. He kind of gives me that as far as like the the comparison as far as like how much I enjoy it, it he reminds I I get the same level of enjoyment of like Rod Argent. I get that vibe from him.

SPEAKER_02 41:03

Yeah. Yeah, I'll probably end up listening to him because it's I mean, one of his is sitting right out in front of me. I haven't listened to him for a while, so by talking about it, I'll probably spin him today.

SPEAKER_01 41:15

Um another group that I grabbed, I know we I think we briefly talked about them, but we didn't really get into them very much. Um it was that band called it was the band called Family. And I I think I think Jerry, you made a connection to them uh a few episodes ago, or maybe it was last year even.

SPEAKER_02 41:38

Well, I think I think both. I think it was not that long ago, but then I first found them myself probably a year ago.

SPEAKER_01 41:46

So okay, sure. So I just recognized the name family, and I was like, okay, I think I'm pretty sure Jerry talked about these guys, so I'm just gonna grab it, and I just looked it up and I was it was listed as Psych Rock, Hard Rock, and Prague Rock. I was like, Yep, that's good enough for me. Um, so I grabbed uh Anyway, which was their fourth album. Um do you have any of so what albums of theirs do you have, Jerry?

SPEAKER_02 42:12

Well, you are gonna make me go through the beginning of my F's to find them. Okay, but I think I might just have one, I think. Um it might take me a while. So what while you're pointing out Oh here go here goes. I think this might be it. It's uh family, it's only a movie.

SPEAKER_03 42:34

Okay, okay.

SPEAKER_02 42:35

And it's like a a cowboy on the front with two pistols pulled, you know, aiming right at you. I think it's my only family album, I'm pretty sure. I'm just seeing the data on it's and they always put these Roman numerals. And I'm in the dark a little bit here. Let me see. Uh 73. Okay. United Artists. So that was now I'm gonna end up listening to family again today, too.

SPEAKER_01 43:06

I'd be curious to hear how it's so how it is, because like I was reading up on um the band and um the guy's vocals is amazing. He has a really unique, like I don't know if I would say call it a falsetto or a vibrato, but it's like he's it's like he's flexing and tensing his uh esophagus incredibly fast, and he's it's almost like he's doing it intentionally. Um so he has like a like a a hoarseness in his vibrato and he does it very intensely. Like I I same thing like how you were talking about with like blues magoos. Um I listened, I put it on last night, and it was like 30 seconds in, and I was like, Well, how is he doing that? I'm like, that's gotta be really hard, like on his voice just to be. Doing that and he's and you can just hear the harshness that uh uh of how it's changing his inflection every time he does it, and he just constantly does this. I'm like, this is nuts. Um I was reading up on him, and I guess his name is Roger Chapman, and he he during one of the shows that they were doing, he lost his voice. And that actually broke.

SPEAKER_02 44:30

That story's familiar.

SPEAKER_01 44:32

Uh it was like after this long this like seven or eight tour show, he lost his voice and the band broke up after that.

SPEAKER_03 44:42

Oh wow.

SPEAKER_01 44:42

It's like they lost their superpower. Um but and I was like, wow, this is this is nuts.

SPEAKER_00 44:48

Um when you say he lost his voice, like like physically, kind of like when you get sick, you lose your voice, or like he just he didn't know how to sing like he was singing.

SPEAKER_01 44:59

Uh just from what I had read, it's like it was after this tour, like he it just said due to losing his voice, the band broke up. So it's like I don't know if he had vocal damage as a result of that, or if it was over stressing himself cords to do what what he was doing. Yeah. Um and it made me think of um there was uh a Danny Carey interview from Tool, and they were talking about how they were choosing their set list, and they're like, Well, we kind of let Maynard decide because his body is his instrument. Yeah. And he's like, We can buy new drums, we can buy new guitars, we can buy new amps and strings, and it'll always sound perfect because the instrument is his instrument, but for him it's his body. And it's like, and we're not young anymore, so it's like you know, you're he has to be careful with how he sings, and just reading up on this guy where I'm like, Yeah, this guy he overdid it, or it sounded like it was trying to do too much too often. Um, and it actually had a uh a negative consequence. Um yeah, so it was interesting just listening to this and just kind of really uh hearing it for the first time and just kind of taking a chance to hear a group that I'd heard us talk about it several times, but I'd never actually seen any family albums out in the wild.

SPEAKER_02 46:26

So it was funny. Yeah, it'd be hard to find, I think, out in the wild. Do you remember the connection? I can't remember the connection.

SPEAKER_01 46:34

Um from family.

SPEAKER_02 46:35

I mean, if you don't know, no big deal.

SPEAKER_01 46:38

Not offhand.

SPEAKER_02 46:39

Um but there was a connection, but I can't think of what it was right now.

SPEAKER_01 46:43

But I mean, it looks like they were purely like an underground band for quite a while. There's there was a lot of rotations between the band members. Um okay, there was actually, I think it was the bass or the um the drummer eventually went into the animals or left the animals to join this group. So that was another thing that I thought was interesting. It's like, okay, there's always a lot of uh connections to just seeing how prolific the animals were as far as a group, but then how band members always seem to rotate in and out between both groups.

SPEAKER_00 47:22

Yeah, that that I always find very fascinating. Um, you know, I'm a fan of sports, so like for me it's it's fun seeing players getting traded to the other teams, and it's like, oh wow, this team used to have this guy and this guy, and and come translating that to music. It's it's kind of the same thing, and then you get like these super groups, and that's like all-star teams, you know. So it's just it's fun.

SPEAKER_01 47:43

It was uh John Wheeder. Uh John Wheeder, he played guitar, bass, and violin. Um, he was the guitarist for the animals from 1966 to 68, and then he was also the bass player for Family from 1969 to 71. So right there is a um a quick connection there. So yeah, so just hearing family, I thought that was really, really cool just to kind of see this, just to kind of like we were just talking about with Justin. It's like picking up bands that you don't know anything about or bands that you've heard of, or it rings a bell and it's like, oh yeah, I'm gonna grab this. And um it's uh it's a fun thing to always see your record collection expand and to kind of see what directions they go into without you even realizing it. Um those are almost those are almost the best, those are you know in a way the best ones where you remember them and it it it changes your perspective as you hear things that you didn't uh witness previously. Yeah. Um oh, go ahead, Jerry.

SPEAKER_02 48:44

Well, I was just gonna say I forgot to mention I I got a record in the mail a couple days ago, and I opened it up and it's like, what the heck is this thing? I didn't I don't remember buying it, but it's uh uh Primus uh Frizzle Fry.

SPEAKER_01 49:02

Oh, Primus, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 49:04

Yeah, and well my son Nick bought it for me, and like uh well a while back I got him uh uh a Hawkland album because he's always been looking for them. So I decided a double of one of mine uh set aside that for him. So he just took it upon himself to get that. I mean, he's he's a major Les Claypool uh fan. Yeah, yeah, and just listened to this Frizzle Fry. I was just focused on the bass player the whole time I was listening to it. I'm like, geez. Yeah. So I got a kind of a surprise one there.

unknown 49:47

Yep.

SPEAKER_02 49:47

I wasn't expecting it at all.

SPEAKER_01 49:49

Yeah, that's their uh like their first album. Uh I think it was like '89, is when that album came out.

SPEAKER_02 49:56

Um I can't remember. I'd have to look, but yeah, it's their first album. I remember that.

SPEAKER_01 50:01

Yep. Yeah, that that's a that's a crazy record. Um, I remember listening to them when I was early in high school. And I remember I was I was at the library and I f I had found um uh Hallucina, like hallucinogenics. Um it was a live DVD that I had rented at the library, and I watched that and I was like, because I just didn't know who they were. And uh that was my first experience listening to Primus and then finally finding their CDs, and yeah, Frizzle Fry is uh it's a crazy interesting record to listen to.

SPEAKER_00 50:38

Yeah. Like you said about every Primus album. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 50:43

Yep. Certainly unique. And they're considered to be like Rush on Crack. It's kind of like uh that was one of the first quotes I'd read about them in uh um it was like a uh a musician's guide to obscure bands that I'd that I'd rented from the library, and that was actually when I found Primus as well, so or that DVD. So I interestingly had grabbed the DVD and a book at the same time, and then I found that in the uh little listing about them that they were compared uh or they were described as rush on crack.

SPEAKER_00 51:21

That's true. And I uh I didn't learn until a few months ago that Primus was the uh theme song, or they wrote the theme song to South Park. Yeah, I didn't know that. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 51:33

Uh there's an interview. Uh Les Claypool does an interview. Uh Nick sent me like, I think three videos of him doing interviews about uh South Park was one, and then I haven't I haven't like look watched them yet, but I will.

SPEAKER_00 51:49

But I think I think that's where I learned that was from that interview.

SPEAKER_02 51:54

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 51:54

So yeah, it's funny. Yeah, it's it's a it's a funny story. I apparently less playful of like they went in, they uh they recorded it, and then they left, they got paid, then they went on tour, and then the the writers of the of South Park, they called them back and said, Hey, the the producers they want you to come back in, they want you to re-record that, they want it faster. And they were on tour, and so Les Claypool just says, Well, just speed up the recording, it's fine. Just speed it up. So they just sped it up in post-editing, and that ended up being like the theme song to South Park. But then at the end of the uh of each episode, it's slower, and that's the actual um that's the actual studio recording. Yeah cool story.

SPEAKER_01 52:43

Yeah, I think I I remember listening to uh interview of Matt Parker and Trey Stone, and they said like while they would while they were making the show initially, Primus was the only band that they could both agree on to listen to.

SPEAKER_00 52:57

Oh, yeah, I think I did hear that. Yeah, that's funny.

SPEAKER_01 53:02

Uh yeah, so that's cool that you that um Nick sent you Frizzle Fry. That's I was I was shocked when I saw that in your um pictures that you sent. I was like, I was like, Jerry picked up Primus? I'm like, that's that's very unique and different for him. I'm like, I'm proud of him.

SPEAKER_02 53:19

Yeah, yeah. I try to steer Nick into stuff, and Nick tries to steer me into other stuff. So it works. Cool.

SPEAKER_00 53:30

Did did Nick get you into sleep token?

SPEAKER_02 53:34

No, another friend of mine, she she's been well, she sent me a picture of herself in a sleep token sweatshirt the other day, but when you mentioned Yeah, she's always talked about that group.

SPEAKER_00 53:47

So I think it was last week when you mentioned Sleep Token. Like that was a surprise for me. It's like, well, Cheerry listens to Sleep Token.

SPEAKER_02 53:55

Well, I've learned over time to not disregard any. I mean, I didn't know I'd like punk and post-punk so much. It's still I I don't know, got a bunch of them. It's like, yeah, this stuff's good.

SPEAKER_03 54:11

Yep.

SPEAKER_02 54:12

So I'll probably just be kind of open-minded to all kinds of stuff because I've learned it.

SPEAKER_01 54:20

Sam, yep. And that that's the beauty of uh the discoveries through Wax. Um I got I got one more record I want to talk about very briefly. It'll be quite um the other record was that IS slash IS or is is. Um that one was another obscure one where it was like, I just saw a sticker and it said local test pressing.

SPEAKER_03 54:44

And cool.

SPEAKER_01 54:45

I just looked at it and I was like, yep, I'm just find out who they are. And it's like um they were uh Minneapolis shoe gaze uh like a shoe gaze uh psych band from the late 2010s or early 2010s. Uh looked like they only did maybe three albums, and I think this was their third album before they changed their name and they moved to Portland. And I I forget what they changed their name to. Uh but uh the record on the inside, it's interesting. Uh the jacket is just like a white, it's just like a standard white jacket with just an IS slash IS sticker on the front. And um there's no track listing, there's no information on it. And then we pull the jacket out, it's just a flat white label um where it just says test pressing side A, test pressing side B. And what's interesting is that I looked at the dead wax, and the dead wax lines up with the actual record. So it is like a real test pressing from for this record. And even the sleeve has the dead wax number written in pen in the top corner with the band name. And I listened to it and it was it I was very impressed with just the direction of what like shoe gaze was in the just you know, about like 15 years ago. And it I really, really enjoyed it. I actually listened to this record twice already, and um, I was just like, okay, I think it'd be cool just to kind of have like a little tiny subsection of my records of like what are just Minnesota-based bands, and also like what bands were like local and what bands were did they go into other groups. So it was just a really unique thing because I don't see very many like local bands often when I go to record stores, or they don't lit they don't take the time to actually say this is a local artist. Um and one interesting discovery that I wasn't expecting, I was putting the record away, and I noticed this little card on the inside of the jacket, and it was a handwritten note card um in the jacket, and it was two uh two people. I'm guessing they were friends of the band, um, but it was from the vocalist and singer of the band. Um, and that was still in the jacket. So like someone the vocalist gave their test pressing to a friend, and it was just interesting finding that like in the jacket when I wasn't expecting that. So it's sub it further substantiated it that it was a legitimate copy because it actually had a handwritten note in there from the vocalist.

SPEAKER_03 57:32

Very cool.

SPEAKER_01 57:34

And that's what I got.

SPEAKER_02 57:37

Okay.

unknown 57:38

All right.

SPEAKER_02 57:40

Okay, you ready for the for my band here?

SPEAKER_00 57:43

Yep, you have the floor.

SPEAKER_02 57:45

Okay. Uh it is an English rock band. They were uh formed in 1983. They were active from 83 to 86. Um, they did three albums. I have all three of them, and I've had them for a long time. And well, just like two days ago, I saw that uh Rory Gallagher plays on all three of them. And I'm like, what? Okay. So this band, um, I don't know if the the term supergroup doesn't really fit for this band because they had different they knew people that would come in and play on their album, whatever I'd like that. Anyway, um the this John John Fiddler from Medicine Head and British Lions, he played on the band. He did vocals quite a bit, uh, as well as uh Graham Parker from The Rumor, Ian Dury from Ian Dury and the Blockheads, which is a great band. Let's see, Roger Chapman, um, let's see uh Rory Gallagher, real slick, Steve Hackett. I think he was with Medicine Head too. Uh Mark Philham, don't know who that is, Max Middleton, uh Peter John Batisse, Jeff Beck, and Jimmy Page. So it's like I didn't even know all these people were on these albums when I I pulled them. You know, I I probably got them like in 1990, these records, but anyway. Okay.

SPEAKER_01 59:43

Uh let's see they did you say, did you say Roger Chapman was on in that band?

SPEAKER_02 59:51

I think it was yes, yes, Roger Chapman.

SPEAKER_01 59:54

Roger Chapman was the vocalist in family.

SPEAKER_02 59:58

Okay. We just unconsciously made another connection today. Yep. Cool. Good, good, good pickup on that, because uh I would have missed that. Okay, they started out, let's see, playing in London at the historic Marquee Club's 25th anniversary celebration, uh, supporting the Yardbirds. Uh and they and it was sort of like at that time they just kind of were all standing around on stage or something, and they decided they'd you know, you know, do music together, you know, Clapton Beck page, those guys. Uh, then the guy from Medicine Ed, John Fiddler. Uh he was kind of the main guy of this band. Uh, let's see, Jeff Beck. Let's see. There's not really a lot on this band. Let's see. I'm just gonna jump down. It's just kind of talking about different different ones that did different parts and on the three albums or whatever. Um let's see. Well, the the band's name is the first album, then Strangeland is the second album by the band, and then uh Okay. Oh, that's a later one. Okay. And I'll tell you the name, and it's a weird name. I always thought it was a weird name. Uh, I don't know if Eric remembers, I think I brought this band up years ago, uh Box of Frogs.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:37

I remember you talking about them. I don't uh I didn't know Rory Gallagher was in them, but I remember you talked about them a couple times, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:46

Yeah. I didn't know that either until I pulled them out the other day. I'm like, what? Rory Gallagher's on all these album. So it was it was a blast playing these things and uh, you know, getting looking forward to talking about them today.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:02

Yeah, I had no idea that he was in another band after uh doing his solo stuff. I mean, I knew he was in taste, but I didn't know that uh he was in another group outside of the solo group.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:12

Yeah. See, I knew that this would be like new new stuff, new discoveries today.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:20

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:21

And they're and they were called Box of Frogs.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:24

Yep. And I I kind of flipped past the page already, but they I don't know, they were all on stage and they were talking about themselves, and uh somebody just they you know, we're like a box of frogs, and then they're like, let's just call ourselves that. Yeah, so that's that one. Um can do I have time to talk about my psych album. Okay. Um where in the heck? Okay, and this is fairly short. Okay, this band was active from 71 to 73. They have a connection to quartermass and atomic rooster. And Eric, if you think you might know, you can say anytime you want. Uh okay, yeah, 7173. Um, I mean, one person from Atomic Rooster, one person from Quartermass.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:46

Uh let's see. Well, the one guy let's see.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:59

Well, this talks about some disagreements that atomic rooster was having, and they kind of if that's when they split up, I'm not sure, something like that.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:10

Uh let me just okay.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:16

This group uh toured across Europe, particularly in Germany and Italy, often as a support to Deep Purple and Uriah. Uh their career was curtailed by a car crash in which uh two of those actually the two people I was just kind of referring to were injured badly. Um they did they did release a second album, uh, but then that was it after that.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:49

Um let me just see.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:53

Okay, the album, it's their second the the the album I have by them, it's it's their second one. After this album, they split and members went their separate ways after declining to rejoin Atomic Rooster, one of them briefly joined Finn Lizzie before recording a solo album, and then the other one went and joined Roxy Music and then later joined the Ian Gillen band. And it was like probably some years ago that I talked about this album for Record Club, but I ran across it the other day, and I'm like, eh, I need to I guess make sure this gets recorded. Um, and I don't know if you remember, Eric. The band's name is Hard Stuff. And the album I'm referring to, the name of the album is uh Bolex Dementia.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:08

I don't remember that.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:11

It doesn't surprise me because there's not like a lot to talk about. Um well, it's so well, I don't know, but the cheapest one you can find is 80 bucks on eBay. I mean, you can, and they're only in, there's hardly any in the US. They're all in the UK and Germany and Australia. Um, so yeah, it's a hard one to find, but it's one of those like dollar bin ones that I didn't know who it was or whatever, like back then. Like, you know, back in the 90s. And it's a great album.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:50

Maybe that's why they call themselves Hard Stuff. We're gonna make we're gonna make our music hard to find.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:57

Well, sorry. I don't know if it really says why they call them hard stuff. I just Well, that John Gustave, he was with Quartermas, and well, John Duquesne's the guy that was you know with the Atomic Rooster. Yeah, I was curious there for a while, too.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:17

I was gonna ask, like, who was the musician that left Atomic Rooster?

SPEAKER_02 1:07:22

Well, they were good, they got into some arguments with Vincent Crane or something. I think Vincent Crane was kind of a bossy guy from other things I've read, it seems like. So so yeah, I thought, well, they got good connections, and they're great obscure psych rock albums, so I'm talking about them.

unknown 1:07:43

Cool.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:46

Now, there's something I'm just seeing here that it says bullet slash hard stuff, discography, all on purple records, Hobo and Sinister Minister uh as Bullet on 71, J-Time, the Orchestrator, 72, Bulletproof, 72, Inside Your Life, and How Do You Do It? Those must be um 45s or something because they just name like two names on each or something, and then Bolex Dementia in 73. So, yeah, it's kind of a brief uh thing about uh because well, there's not that much to really talk about them.

SPEAKER_03 1:08:30

So, yeah. Very good. That was my yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:36

Yeah, I was actually just just thinking about my 45s this morning. I was like, I should probably dig those out and just start flipping through them because I don't I don't know what I actually have when it comes to those.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:48

I've got hundreds and they're like overwhelming, and I don't know what I have either. I'll record some and kind of into them for a while, and then it's like it's just too much, and I put them away again.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:02

Um you were mentioning about about how like some of those records were just on 45s, or that those must have been 45s. Um I don't know I'll have to maybe I'll try to clarify for next weekend, but I remember reading about uh the Oblivion Express and that there was a sm a bri very brief, brief period where the Oblivion Express they weren't called the Oblivion Express, but they were uh Peter Green played with them and they were called the Shotgun Express, and it was very, very brief. It was like one year, and they only released 45s. And um I just checked to see like okay, how many did they if they only released 45s? Is there like an LP compilation of that? Because anything Peter Green related, I'm like I'm always interested in just kind of collecting like his stuff or trying to find his most obscure stuff. Because that was before that was before Fleetwood Mac. So like to try to get like the the oldest Peter Green stuff, that would be very cool. Um yeah, and there were only 45s, and you know, I saw a couple on eBay, and they were like almost $400 just for 45, and that's per 45.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:20

Yeah, and just kind of I don't think we ever talked about this with Justin, but it is true that some bands only had like one or two hits. Some bands are only on 45.

unknown 1:10:36

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:37

And well, you mentioned Peter Green. I was sorting through a whole bunch, like I got a ton of CDs. I must have like eight or nine Peter Green CDs. Yeah, so I'm like, geez, well, I'm glad I got these. Yeah. Um, is there time just to mention one band? Sure.

SPEAKER_03 1:11:01

Yeah, go for it.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:02

Quick like. Well, I pulled out their album this morning and I listened to it again. Okay.

SPEAKER_03 1:11:10

Oh no, what did I want to talk about?

SPEAKER_02 1:11:15

Okay, well, it's a great band. I saw them in concert. Um, let's see, I'm gonna I gotta find a quote here. Somebody okay. This band um attracted the attention of Jeff Beck and Jimmy Page. Uh this band is uh noted as uh influence uh to the Eagles, Judas Priest, Iron Maiden, Van Halen, Leonard Skinner, Thin Lizzie, Metallica, Dream Theater, Overkill, and Opeth.

SPEAKER_00 1:11:57

Um there's something I just discovered Opath a couple months ago. They're they're really good.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:08

Yeah, they're not easy to get either, I'm thinking.

SPEAKER_03 1:12:12

Yeah, they're not great.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:15

Um, let's see here. Uh John Wenton played with them for a little bit. And uh somebody from Trapeze.

SPEAKER_03 1:12:27

Um there's some kind of a quote somewhere here.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:35

Oh yeah, okay. Early early 1970s, uh the band secured an opening spot for Deep Purple. Uh Richie Blackmore later recommended this band to producer Derek Lawrence, as well as helping them secure a record deal with DECA and MCA. Okay, well, there's a right heap connection to I gotta find where I was reading. But anyway, this band was such a strong influence to other bands. They've been attracting uh electric blues bands since Jeff Beck and Jimmy play Jimmy Page played together in the art groups. Their contributions helped uh Andy Powell and Ted Turner to be voted uh two of the ten most important guitarists in rock history. Traffic Magazine in 1989, and then Melody Maker in 1972 described them as the most interesting two guitar team since the days of Beck and Paige Grace the Yarbirds. Um and then it's a I kind of mentioned all the bands that it they influenced. Eric might have a good guess of who it is by now. It is not Asia, no.

unknown 1:14:05

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 1:14:06

Because John Watman was in this band.

SPEAKER_02 1:14:09

Uh uh in the band, no. Um I'd have to go through a bunch of stuff to find it here. Okay. The band continued on with a strong critical and commercial success until 1980. There followed lineups featured former bass players from King Crimson, John Wenton, Uriah Heath, Trevor Boulder, and Trapeze Murphy Spence. One of my favorite all-time band. Like when I put this album on, I it's a 1974 album, and I bought it in like 74 or 75, something like that. And I couldn't stop playing it. It'd be um if I it's it's one of those like life-changing albums for me. Because I it's I love it so much whenever I play it, and and I've always liked the group uh uh like a really lot, and and I'm glad I saw him in concert.

SPEAKER_01 1:15:21

Uh Wishbone Ash.

SPEAKER_02 1:15:22

It's Wishbone Ash.

SPEAKER_01 1:15:24

Good job.

SPEAKER_02 1:15:26

There's the Rub is the 74 album that was kind of the life-changing kind of a thing.

unknown 1:15:32

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:15:34

I mean, it's so good, and uh yeah, that Lorelei song.

SPEAKER_01 1:15:41

Um there's uh a Wishbone Ash connection to uh Bebop Deluxe too, where one of the guitar players is uh on the last guitar solo of one of their albums.

SPEAKER_02 1:15:54

And it's one uh Wishbone Ash on Bebop Deluxe.

SPEAKER_01 1:15:59

Yep, yep. One of the guitar players from uh Wishbone Ash is featured on a Bebop Deluxe album. And it's he does like the guitar solo on the last track of the Which Bebop Deluxe album?

SPEAKER_02 1:16:11

I'll have to check. You have to tell me that what the cover looks like. I don't know, I don't know the names of stuff.

SPEAKER_01 1:16:17

Sure. I'll I'll look that up after Record Club and I'll send you a picture of it. Oh, that's okay. Okay, okay. But yeah, uh Wishbone Ash, they're a great group.

SPEAKER_02 1:16:25

I really like uh Argus and Pilgrimage and Well, Argus is probably their most popular main one they're known for, but but yeah, that two guitar thing, two lead guitars. I mean, people apparently didn't do that. I don't know if they how rare that is at all for sure, but I guess if I read the whole thing, I might learn that. But yeah. Yeah, they were the they were the opening band for now I gotta think who. Um maybe Aerosmith. I think they might have opened for Aerosmith.

SPEAKER_03 1:17:09

Cool.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:11

I kind of went there to see them. I mean, I like Aerosmith too, but.

SPEAKER_01 1:17:17

Do you remember what year that was, or roughly what year that was?

SPEAKER_02 1:17:21

Uh I probably never remember that. I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 1:17:25

Do you remember what album Aerosmith was touring at the time?

SPEAKER_02 1:17:31

Uh Aerosmith was pretty new. I mean, the it was in the it was in the it was in the cities, like Minneapolis is where I saw them. Uh and I'm not sure if it was Aerosmith they opened for. Uh it might have been um oh no, I I think I know now.

SPEAKER_03 1:17:53

I gotta oh wait, it wasn't it wasn't the Who. I can't remember. I'm just glad I saw them live.

SPEAKER_00 1:18:03

Yeah, cool. Did you mention what venue you saw them at?

SPEAKER_02 1:18:10

I I won't remember that either.

SPEAKER_01 1:18:13

Uh I just Googled it real quick. Uh Wishbone Ash played in the Minneapolis, St. Paul area during the 1970s, performing on November 19th of 1973. They toured uh nearby in St. Paul on on December 4th of 74 at the Civic Center. The band was renowned for their twin lead guitar sound, frequently touring the U.S. in this area. Um looked like it might have been their Argus tour, which was 72. They also played.

SPEAKER_03 1:18:45

It would have been after 73.

SPEAKER_01 1:18:48

Looks like they played um at the Metropolitan Sports Center in Bloomington in 1970 in March twentieth of 1976. Um looks like the set list was Rest in Peace, The King Will Come, uh Persaphonic Uh uh Half Past Loving. Uh Time Was, Blowin' Free. It was it started in Heaven and No Easy Road.

SPEAKER_02 1:19:25

I mean, I graduated high school in 73, so it would have had to be maybe not 74, but 76 it'd probably be 75, 76, 77, somewhere in there.

SPEAKER_01 1:19:40

Yeah, and it looks like they played uh Minneapolis and Bloomington or they made they played the Metropolitan Sports Center in Bloomington in 1976. Maybe something like that. No, it's cool. I I always like uh hearing about other people's um you know uh concert experiences and even trying to find like okay what what information can be discovered by just looking that stuff up and trying to find what that was or where that was. And um Yeah, it's just interesting. Even uh hearing when people talk about like, oh, they were they were opening for Uriah or uh Aerosmith. I remember my stepdaddy told me once that he saw um Uriah Heap open for uh Leonard Skinnard, and he said that he liked Uriah Heap more than Leonard Skinnard. Um yeah, it's just kind of fun uh hearing about live experiences and yeah, which they're an amazing group. All their stuff is good. Anytime I see them, I just grab them. I know. Have you shown live dates, uh double live album?

unknown 1:20:50

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:20:51

Have you shown them to me yet, Eric?

SPEAKER_01 1:20:53

I'm pr I'm pretty sure I have. I think you have. There is a uh actually, Jerry, last time you were here for Record Club, the last album we listened to was uh live Uriah Heap album, and it was a live album and it was only three songs.

SPEAKER_00 1:21:06

I saw some Uriah Heap at uh Sunshine Records at the record store that I was at.

SPEAKER_01 1:21:12

Cool.

SPEAKER_00 1:21:13

Um uh there's another one, uh Savon. What what's that guy's name?

SPEAKER_01 1:21:19

Warren Savon.

SPEAKER_00 1:21:20

Warren Savon. I almost uh it was 20 bucks. I almost picked up a Warren Savon record.

SPEAKER_02 1:21:26

Yeah, he's he's a favorite of mine too. Uh I've got a book uh of him. His wife wrote it after he died, but it's really a good book. Um well the name of the book is the same as a lyric in one of his songs, I'll Sleep When I'm Dead. But yeah, Warren Zavon died way too young, too. Jeez.

unknown 1:21:52

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:21:54

Yeah, I had him in my hands, and then I found the Zeppelin album, so I I put him away for the Zeppelin album.

SPEAKER_02 1:22:01

Oh yeah, well, it'll be a one that you can still shoot for. Yeah, excitable boy.

SPEAKER_01 1:22:08

Sure. Yeah, there's always gonna be uh records you gotta make like decisions on. And I was the same when I was at the fetus, I probably had like 20 records in my hand, and I was like, I'm gonna at least try to keep this around $100. I don't want to go too far over that.

SPEAKER_00 1:22:25

So I was like, Yeah, because I learned the hard way when I was at the first store. Um, I would find records that, like, oh yeah, I really like that. I'm gonna come back to that. And then you start going through records and then you lose where you um so like I I spent 10 minutes going back trying to find a certain record. So now when I went to the second store, I learned to just just hold it in your hand.

SPEAKER_01 1:22:49

Yep. Yep. And you can always filter through and then you can easily put them back and make those decisions. Because even um, you know, yeah, I I like going my favorite is to always just go to the new arrival section and because that's where you can find the newest records that were just brought in. Um, and typically they're always used records and um yeah, you can get pretty good deals there. But then sometimes like there was one I put back, it was a it was a rare record, but it was like it was over thirty dollars. And I'm like, nah, um, I'll grab some other I can get like three or four other albums for that same same money. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:23:28

So yeah, if if if I end up spending more than I really want on a record, I'll have a permanent resentment toward that record while it's in my collection.

unknown 1:23:38

Sure.

SPEAKER_02 1:23:40

One of my strategies is wherever I go, I try to get there a half hour early, so I'm there as soon as they open the door.

unknown 1:23:48

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:23:49

Because I always think they might have stocked some stuff late last night or you know, whatever. Yeah, so that's about all I got.

SPEAKER_00 1:23:58

Well, this has been another episode of In the Name of Wax. Today's episode was recorded March eighth. Thank you for listening and we will see you next time.