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The Records Behind the Legends
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In this episode of In The Name Of Wax, we dig into some fascinating corners of music history, from the legacy of Jethro Tull and the stories behind Aqualung to a deep appreciation of Little Feat’s legendary live album Waiting for Columbus. We also explore rare Yes records, revisit an overlooked Paul Kossoff collaboration, and share the excitement of discovering albums that still surprise us decades later. Along the way, we uncover connections between iconic artists, influential bands, and the records that continue to shape our appreciation of music. Whether you're a longtime collector or just beginning your vinyl journey, this episode is packed with stories, discoveries, and plenty of love for the groove.
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Welcome everybody. It is May 3rd, 2026. This is this week's episode of In the Name of Wax.
SPEAKER_04Jerry, you want to get us started with this day in history?
SPEAKER_01Okay, this day. Um born today, Golden My Here, 1898. Uh Pete Seeger was born in 1919. James Brown, hardest working man in show business, 1928. Uh Johnny Unidas was born today in 1933. Frankie Valley was born today in 1937. I've seen him in concert. I think he's still alive. Peter Staples was born in 1944. He was like a politician in Australia or something. And then I was kind of cool when I saw this one. Mary Hopkins was born today in 1950. Okay, when I saw that, I'm like, wait, Mary Hopkins? I've got one of her albums, and I listened to it this morning. But anyway, I thought, that's right. So I I found it. I wasn't sure if I still had it, and I found it. And it's just kind of a, you know, black, pretty much cover with a picture of her in a picture frame in the middle, and I'm like, why did I buy this album? And as soon as I pulled it out, I'm like, oh now I remember it. I pulled it out, and it's the Green Apple Beatles label. She was the first act to sign on that label, or one of the very first. Yeah, she was recommended to Paul McCartney by this other uh person. So I thought, well, it's good to have this just for historical. Yeah, I mean, she's a nice female singer, but as soon as I saw the Beatles label, I thought, well, that's good enough for me. Okay, John and let's see, Steve Jones was born today. He's with the Sex Pistols in 1955. And then David uh Ball of Soft Cell was born today in 1959. I like that band too. Okay, the only event for today is Meet John Doe movie starring Gary Cooper and Barbara Stanwick in premieres in 1941. No dust today.
SPEAKER_02That's it. Okay.
SPEAKER_04Well, I today I wanted to dive into uh Jothrol Toll a little bit. Roll. Yep. Do some do some diving in there. Um and then Eric, I think you have an album to talk about.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, I have uh uh an album that I received and was finally able to listen to. Um I'll talk about that. And then I have three records that I just recently received that I just want to talk about. And Jerry, there's uh two albums. I want to see if you actually have them. So I want to see if uh if you've heard of these albums because they're different records from a popular band that I haven't seen before. So I'm curious to see if uh if you know of them or just to talk about you know these other kind of rare bird albums of to me anyway, of bands that I don't typically of albums that I don't see of this band. Well, that's almost what this is all about is all that kind of stuff. So that's good. Yeah. So I mainly I have uh one album that I want to talk about that I did actually get to listen to and I very, very much enjoyed.
SPEAKER_01Okay. Well, I've got it's basically two albums that go back to like 19, well, one's in 1977, one's in 1978, and I remember getting them, you know, shortly after they came out, and they're sort of like near and dear to my heart. Both these albums, I ended up finding out you know, I pulled them out after not really listening to them for a long time. And well, I've got a couple copies of one and three copies of the other one, so they're so good. But anyway, I've been listening to them and learning some cool stuff about them that I didn't know, even after having them for you know, since then learning new stuff about them. So I got those two, and then there's one real good, uh interesting Irish band that I'll just mention if there's time. So those are kind of kind of what I have.
SPEAKER_04Very good. Okay. Um how we start every record club is with our mission statement. Eric, you gotta do the mission statement?
SPEAKER_03Sure. All right, in the name of Wax is an exclusive record club for music lovers of the analog format through sharing experiences, memories, discoveries, and emotions tied to the albums. Our goal is to build continued appreciation for forgotten bands and members by understanding more of their histories and connections. We reinforce our bond with club members for love of the groove.
SPEAKER_04Amen. Well, I think I would like to let one of you guys go first. We'll just kind of tease the um, you know, the we'll we'll dive into Jethral Toll in just a minute. Uh, but first, I I think one of you guys should go first. Sure.
SPEAKER_03Um actually I'll go first.
SPEAKER_04Okay.
SPEAKER_03All right. So this I'll talk about this album that I just listened to recently. It's that Paul Kosov, Simon Kirk, Rabbit and Tetsu album. It's uh it was done in 1972. It's the first album that Paul Kossof had made after Free broke up. Um it I was really, really glad to have uh found a copy of this. Um I actually found it at Cheapo Records. Um and it was a really great joy just seeing seeing it and having and knowing what it was. Um and when I listened to it, it sounded like like it it had a lot of like similar like melody and like song structures of actual like Beatles songs. Like there was one, it had like a it there's one track, it it has a melody, it's very close to the uh the You Never Gave Me Your Money from the Beatles. It had that same almost kind of like timbre and vocal approach to it. Um but musically it was it was beautiful, it was wonderful. It gave me that, you know, what Jerry and I what you and I talk about is that feeling, that tingling feeling down your spine. Uh when we listen to music, um, it gave me that, I would say like three to four times. And it was that's how I just know that I'm thoroughly enjoying a record is that when it gives me that sensation um just by listening to it. Um so it was just a really interesting find. It it uh it was actually really refreshing just to hear Paul Kosuf again that wasn't in a free album, but it sounded very close to free. I mean, this has two members of the band. Um, but it was just a very unique uh experience of just hearing them in different contexts where that's like it's not free, but it's not really another side project. This is just a complete collaborative project by that's a one-album kind of project with this group. So it was uh I really enjoyed listening to it, and it's just it it always gives me that feeling of like really enjoying the process of doing like deep dives into bands and being excited to find a record, being able to look for anything, and just when something piques your interest, you just instantly know where that excitement is coming from. And and then, of course, just the joy of listening to it and really experiencing it in its raw original state. It's uh what's the name of it? Uh it's called uh Kossif, Kirk, Rabbit, and Tetsu. It's it's just their last names. Um and actually I'll send I'll send you a picture of it. Actually, I got the names off. It's Kossif, Kirk, Tetsu, and Rabbit. But this on this album, according to according to the Wikipedia page, this is the album where Kossif he was still using at this time. And this is where he would also be known for um nodding out or sleeping during playback of their of the album. So this is kind of like the ending stage of uh well, the very much the downward spiral of his use and how much it was impacting him and the band and other projects that he was in. Um AllMusic gave this me gave this album two stars out of ten, which or two stars out of five, which I was talking to Justin earlier, but uh I don't really take ratings of I don't take ratings that seriously. Um and I'm glad that I don't really like let a a rating like change my perspective of how I listen to an album. Um I I would rate this far more than a two out of five. Uh, but maybe it's just my taste. Um but oh yeah, so all music gave it two out of five, which I like I've said before, I think it's like it's uh interesting to to think about like what other people rate it, and I wonder how much of that changes how people actually listen to music, or how much or how much exposure did it get? Maybe not that many people, you know, that would make a difference, I would think. Right, right. And if they just see, oh, it got two out of five, it must be bad, uh, or maybe it got less airplay, or maybe they didn't get many shows or much of a turnout if they did play live. Um so yeah, so it's interesting. And that was the only that was just the one rating that I'd seen from this album. But yeah, I just I know I remember I've mentioned before where I was like uh where I would see albums that would get low ratings, and I was like, well, that's clearly uh just somebody else's perspective of it. But I was like, I thought it was great. Um so it's like it's an interesting thing of like not really taking ratings very seriously. Um but like you said, like I wonder how much exposure they may have gotten as a result of that. Um but yeah, so this is a really fun record. I really enjoyed listening to it. I'll take pictures of it and I'll send it to you. And this is on what year did it come out in? 1972, and it was on Island Records.
unknownOkay.
SPEAKER_01That's good. Yeah, I mean, just off's name on the front of it would be enough to make somebody buy that or take you. I mean, if they knew them, you know. Right, right.
SPEAKER_03So I have that, and then um the two albums that I want to ask you about. Actually, I'll just talk about this other one real quick. I got that I got that second Paris album in the mail yesterday, and I I haven't listened to it yet, but I'm gonna I'm gonna give it a spin today and uh see what that's about. So I'll probably talk more about that next week. Um the other two albums, they're uh they're yes albums, and these are yes albums that I haven't seen very often. Um typically when I see yes records, it's always like closer to the edge, fragile, um, or they're like box set of the uh I think it's just called Yes Songs. Uh one of them is called uh it's called Time in a Word. I don't know if you've heard of that album or if you've seen that before. I don't know.
SPEAKER_01I'd have to go into my yeses to find out.
SPEAKER_03Uh this was released on Atlantic in 1970. Um and I'll take pictures of these and send them to you as well.
SPEAKER_01It's called What Time and a Word?
SPEAKER_03Yep.
SPEAKER_01It's not sounding familiar. Doesn't look like I have that one.
SPEAKER_03Okay. Um I'll just take pictures of it now and send it to you. Okay. And then I think this second record is is actually, I believe, their second album, I believe. Um like I said, I haven't listened to them yet, but I'm excited just to kind of continue to expand my horizons to yes, where I didn't I only knew I've only heard of them primarily. I never really had that much direct exposure to the band. I think I've heard Fragile once, and I think I've heard Closer to the Edge maybe once, but that might have been upwards to 15.
SPEAKER_01I did I did a thing on Relayer um like quite a while ago.
SPEAKER_03Oh yeah, you did.
SPEAKER_01Yep. Yep, Relayer's great.
SPEAKER_03Uh oh yeah, I'll need to listen to that. I'm pretty sure I have that. I might have that one. I'll have to go back and see what albums of theirs I even have. Um because they're one of those bands where it's like I I've uh knew of them, but I never didn't really know much of having like direct experience of listening to the band or knowing much of their history, or I I I just didn't really have that exposure. I was into like Floyd, the Doors, Sabbath, and and then like King Crimson, and that was kind of like my niche area for a very long time. Um so yes, kind of just but wasn't really on my radar very often um in my earlier years of appreciating music. And um so I think just with like not just with uh with m different bands in general, but just through records, just really appreciating and seeing like the breadth of how much material a gr a group actually made, as well as actually kind of knowing like how much of an impact other albums of theirs may have already had without me ever realizing it, like relayer or other albums of theirs. So I'm excited just to hear uh these other two records.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, yeah, they're they're a unique, great band, and um their albums are still not that hard to find. People can still you know find them pr pretty easily.
SPEAKER_03Did you happen to get the pictures I sent over?
SPEAKER_01The ones you sent me actually depressed me because that first yes's first album, I used to have that, but I don't anymore. And it always bugs me when I don't have an album that I used to have. But yeah, that that um Something in the World. I don't yes, I don't know what that one is. I've never seen that one. Uh other than uh Time and a Word, their debut album.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, and that first one is Time and Time and a Word. Yeah, I've never seen that one. Yeah, me neither. Typically, if I see their records, I always see like Fragile, Closer to the Edge, and then yeah, Relayer. Those are the ones I've that I see most often. So yeah, so I'm excited to have uh kind of had some of these acquisitions recently. So hopefully I'll have more on uh Yes next week as well as Paris.
SPEAKER_04Thanks.
SPEAKER_02Cool.
SPEAKER_01Okay, are we re I are we ready for me?
SPEAKER_04Sure. Yeah, go for it, Jerry.
SPEAKER_01Okay. This album it was released in 1978. It's a double live album, and you know how I always like double live albums. Um now oh boy, let's see. It got uh now that we're into rate, we're talking about ratings, it got four and a half out of five stars on all music. Uh Encyclopedia for Popular Music gave it four out of five stars. Pitchfork gave it eight point four out of ten. Rolling Stone gave it favorable. Um it was meant to be uh it was meant to be a three album set, but because of marketing stuff, they made it into a two-album. But then some of the live stuff they did, they actually just put it on the next album, which is good. Um okay. Uh okay. It's this band's first live album. Now, what one thing I'll say about this band, they originated in uh Frank Zappa's Mother of Invention. Two of those people formed this band. And this band, uh Jimmy Page is quoted as saying this is his favorite band. And I those are two things I didn't know. Uh and the other thing, or uh uh Eric will appreciate this. On this double live album, the band was backed by the Tower of Power. And I didn't know that either. I mean, I've always loved this album, but I didn't know these things about it. Okay.
SPEAKER_04Uh what's the tower what's the Tower of Power? Uh it's another band.
SPEAKER_01So jazz, like Horn Band. Yeah, okay. They you I don't know, they have at least half a dozen albums out themselves. They're all Tower of Power is a great group, you know, if you ever run across them.
unknownYeah.
SPEAKER_01Um and Rolling Stones uh guitarist Mick Taylor uh plays in the band uh uh during this live stuff. And okay, I'm gonna ask Eric this. Does the name Neon Park mean anything to you? No.
SPEAKER_03I I it doesn't ring a bell with anything.
SPEAKER_01Okay, well, it didn't to me either when I read it, but you know the the Frank Zappa album, uh Weasels Rip Your Flesh.
unknownYep.
SPEAKER_01Neon Park does the it did that album cover.
SPEAKER_02Okay.
SPEAKER_01Neon Park did the album covers for this band, all this band's albums. I've got ten of their albums. Um this double live one is the one I was kind of focused on. You know, I like all of them. Um I'll talk a little bit more about the band here. Oh yeah, on uh what this live band, Michael McDonald and uh uh Patrick Simmons from uh Doobie Brothers played on it too. Um it charted uh let's see uh it charted in Australia number 27, uh Dutch uh number 29, New Zealand, number 11, Norwegian number 18, U.S. Billboard 218. Uh this album is in the United States, uh the record association, the record, I keep forgetting what this acronym stands for. It's the Recording Industry Association of America, uh certified at platinum. Uh they sold uh a million copies of this album. Um okay. I might just okay, I'm gonna go back to Okay, that was the album that got me into I don't know, the rest of their albums. I'm you know, I just started reading about the band a little more. Um there are they're an American uh rare American rock band formed from Los Angeles, and the two the two members formerly of the Mothers of Invention, and then they got a uh a keyboardist and a drummer. Um Let's see here. The labels, they were on labels Rhino label, Warner Brothers, CMC International, Tower, Zoo Entertainment, and they call them a spin-off of Mothers of Invention. Um let's see here. Oh yeah. One of the members of the Mothers that left wrote a song and showed it to Frank Zappa. Now there's two versions of this story. One is Frank Zappa saw this read the song and he he told the guy you are too good of a songwriter just to be in my band. You need to be you need to be in another band to do this music. That's one version. The other version is Frank Zappa saw references to to drugs in the song and then asked the guy to leave. But whenever the guy, like in concert, whenever, he always refers to this song as the song that uh I left, you know, The Mothers of Invention that caused me to leave the Mothers of Invention. Um okay, let's see here. Okay, it's talking about their other albums. Yeah, well, that you know, Weasels Rip My Flesh. I always wondered why all these 10 albums by this band they have kind of odd covers like Weasels Rip My Flesh. And I found out, well, it's the same artist that did them, that's why. Okay. Um let's see. They did uh some members kind of went in and out a little bit. One guy left uh later on and joined the Captain Beef Arts band. Guitarist Jimmy Page said that this band was his favorite American band in a 1975 Rolling Stone interview. Um two of this band's songs, they're great songs, were featured prominently in the 2010 Edward Norton film Leaves of Grass. Well, I'm not gonna read that. Okay. Musical style. This band's musical style is marked by eclectic fusion of genres incorporating elements of rock, blues, jazz, country, and funk. Their early albums introduced a blend of country rock with folk influences, um, while another one showcased distinctive New Orleans-inspired funk sound that became a hallmark of their style. Their music is also known for its complex rhythm and instrumental improvisations, influenced by the one, I don't know if that's a band leader, okay, bottleneck guitar work. I don't know which guy that is. Okay, critics often compare uh their fan base to that of the Grateful Dead due to their devoted following and the band's turbulent line of changes. Rolling Stone has described them as a, this is a quote, cult band with a sound which drew on the musical traditions of cities, including New Orleans, Memphis, and Tennessee, with an idiosyncratic twist, blending southern and swamp rock elements to a zany southwest synthesis. By the late 70s, they began incorporating jazz rock fusion, evident in tracks, um reflecting their shift in toward jazz influences. Okay. Last paragraph. Their live performances are celebrated for their jam band qualities, often characterized by extending instrumental sections and capturing the improvisational spirit of jazz while retaining a Southern Rock Foundation. Glide magazine noted one of their albums and its surreal cover art became iconic for the band, underscoring their fusion of music, visual artistry, and cementing their status as a lasting influence in American rock music. They're still playing. They did an album in 2025. Um let's see, is there anything else? I mean, there's nothing really to, you know, make anybody guess who they are. But the album that led me to the rest of to learn more about them is a double album, uh, Waiting for Columbus. Have you heard of Waiting for Columbus, Eric? Waiting for Columbus is one of the best live double albums. Um It's incredible. Um I can't say enough about it. This morning I'm trying to think. I'm thinking, okay, I want to make sure people know how good this album is. And I'm thinking to myself, okay, it's just my own personal opinion. But it's like, okay, any record collection that doesn't have Waiting for Columbus is no collection. I mean, uh yeah, it is um, well, it reminds me of a good friend of mine. He passed away 10 years ago, but he and I listened to it a lot too, so it probably means a lot to me for that reason, too. But but the whole album is great. Every time I listen to it, it's great. And of course I listened to it this morning. But yeah, I mean, if it's um if it's Jimmy Page's favorite band, you know, that means something.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. And just the origin of like two members came from um Mothers of Invention. Yep. And I was thinking about who the band could be, and um, and also knowing that like some of the band did some of the band members leave this group to join uh Captain Beefheart, or did they one of them did for sure? Cause I think I might know who that person might be. Uh is it and I'm thinking, I know Rai Cooter played with uh uh Captain Beefheart.
SPEAKER_01Rye Cooter. Okay. Yeah, I forgot to mention one thing, but I'll just say it. Okay. The guy that wrote that song that Frank Zappa was thought too good to be, yeah, you know, that he should make his own band or whatever. Anyway, when it came time to perform that song, this guy somehow hurt his hand or something. So Rye Cooter sat in and played the slide guitar part of that song when they were uh uh when they were playing. I don't know if it was live or on the album.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, when you mentioned the slide guitar work, my first thought was that and the Captain Beefheart. I'm like, okay, that's that's gotta be Rai Cooter. Um I at least that's the first person that came to my mind was Rai Cooter. Um was he in this band that you're talking about, or was he one of the other band members? I mean Rai Cooter? Yeah, was he in this group?
SPEAKER_01Nope, he just he just sat in for this he this one song.
SPEAKER_03Okay. I can't think of it.
SPEAKER_01Well, I can tell you the two the name of the two people that left Mutt the Mothers. Sure. Uh Bill Payne, he was a keyboardist, and the drummer uh Richie Hayward.
SPEAKER_03I think it was so Hayward, I think is I think Justin Hayward was in the moody blues.
SPEAKER_01Right. I mean, I didn't know I don't know who this guy is compared other than he was with the mothers and then went to Little Feet. I said the name of the band Little Feet, right?
SPEAKER_03Uh no, no.
SPEAKER_01Boy, sorry about that. No, no, no, it's okay. Little, yeah. The band the name of the band is Little Feet.
SPEAKER_03Okay.
SPEAKER_01Have you heard of Little Feet?
SPEAKER_03Uh, yeah, I have one album of theirs.
SPEAKER_01Uh hopefully you spin it today. What is it?
SPEAKER_03Uh I think it's it's the one with I think it's like a piece of cake on a swing.
SPEAKER_01Yep. Um, I just put them away. I forget the name of that one, but yeah. That is, and that is that the same artist that did that cover. Because you when you looked at the cover, you probably thought it was pretty weird, right? Yeah. Yeah, it's very weird. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03And is that the album that you're talking about?
SPEAKER_01Nope, nope. Uh Waiting for Columbus is like it's a guy in a hammock, but his head is like a giant tomato.
SPEAKER_03I've seen that cover.
SPEAKER_01That is the greatest live album you could ever buy. Okay. Every song on it is great. And that's the one, The Tower of Power, back 'em up.
SPEAKER_02Ooh.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. Yeah. It you know, any collection without this record is missing out. And like I say, I got three copies of it. Nice. Yeah. Yeah. Uh little feet. And feet, feet is F-E-A-T.
unknownYeah.
SPEAKER_01There was some joke about the Beatles or something, I forget the spelling. They spelled it. I don't know, they spelled it F-E-A-T, some kind of a homage to the Beatles. I don't know the whole story behind that, but it's kind of cool.
SPEAKER_04Because it's like feet not in like what's at the bottom of your leg, but that you walk on, but in like a measurement. So it's it's like little feet. It's like a little distance. Yeah, yeah. It's something kind of like that, kind of neat.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
unknownYeah.
SPEAKER_01I was like, okay, I'll just read it. The name of the band came from a comment made by the mother's drummer, Jimmy Carl Black, about Lowell's little feet. Apparently he had small feet. And then it just says the spelling of feet, F-E-A-T, was a homage to the Beatles. I didn't 100% understand that, so I don't know. But yeah, Little Feet Waiting for Columbus.
unknownCool.
SPEAKER_01Don't ever forget that.
SPEAKER_04Greatest live album you can buy.
SPEAKER_01Any collection without that album is no collection.
SPEAKER_03Um when you were mentioning that about saying like it's like uh a double live album and some that you enjoyed, I was thinking it was either going to be uh without knowing the other facts, but like the first there are two records that came to my mind that I was thinking, um I'm like, I wonder if he's gonna talk about Bebop Deluxe or if he's gonna talk about Wishbone Ash.
SPEAKER_01Ooh, those are two that are that are not a lot of distance behind Waiting for Columbus, but yeah.
unknownCool.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I have just mentioning records makes me want to listen to them. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03I have that one little feed album, and I think that's the only one. Good, I'm glad. Um I have seen that I have seen Waiting for Columbus after hearing you discuss it. I have because I do recognize I I recall the album cover. Um I didn't know it was the same artist who did uh Weasels Rip My Flesh, which that's just a great cover. Um so yeah, that's interesting. And just knowing that it was from two members of uh Mothers of Invention, I and Jimmy Page's favorite band. Yeah, that's cool. And then just knowing that like Power of Tower backed them on that album, sort of that live album, like I just found that out this morning.
SPEAKER_01I'm reading this stuff and I'm like, oh geez, I gotta talk about this to get it to get it out or I'll explode.
SPEAKER_02Yes.
SPEAKER_01So yeah, that's my that's my one album. The other album's almost equal. Sure.
SPEAKER_02Go for it.
SPEAKER_01If okay. Let's see here. Okay, this other album, um I got it when it well it came out in 77. And I got it not long after it came out. So I mean I was like, you know, 22 or whatever back then. Um, and it's this artist's first album. It isn't a group, it's an artist. It's his first album, and a lot of people say it's his best album. Um I I would, I don't have all of his, I've probably got uh maybe seven of his albums, I think. Um let's see, according to according to Rolling Stone magazine, or according to Rolling Stone, this guy reinvigorated the literate lyrical traditions of Bob Dylan and Van Morrison with the raw energy and sass that were principal ethics of punk, noting the construction of his songs, which set densely layered wordplay in an ever-expanding repertoire of styles. When they said the thing about punk, I thought to myself, God, is this guy punk? He's actually not punk, but he rose to fame the exact same time frame as punk was rising to fame. And his stuff was sort of uh, I'm not gonna say angry, but kind of uh go against traditional norms, or I don't know how you'd want to say that, but um he was uh inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame in 2003 and into the Songwriters Hall of Fame in uh 2016. Um there's a lot of stuff on him. I could list all the labels. There's like well, Stiff, Radar, F beat, Demon, Columbia, Warner Brothers, Mercury Island, Deutsche Grammophone, which I was surprised, Lost Highway, Verve, Hear Music, Rico Disc, Rhino, uh Hippo, and Concord. Um I mean, he collaborated with a lot of people. I'm gonna jump down to his kind of kind of uh in his early days, people were telling me, telling him that he could sing like Neil Young and Robbie Robertson. And he was okay, he was introduced to Brinsley Schwartz, and that band was an influence on him. Okay. That makes some sense, okay? Uh now that 33 of his albums charted in like 20 countries worldwide. 33 albums charted in like 20 some countries. Yeah. He did, I mean, he did some acting and television stuff, and he's written books even, but he's considered uh by experts in pop and rock music to be one of the best songwriters of his generation. This guy from All Music summarized him as, this is a quote, most evocative, innovative, and gifted songwriter since Bob Dylan, with songs that offer highly personal takes on love and politics. In 2015, Rolling Stone ranked him 24th on their list of the greatest songwriters of all time, noting his almost unparalleled virtuosity or versatility, I'm sorry. Uh when he was inducted into the Songwriters Hall of Fame, the introduction announcement said that the impact of his songs, quote, far out distance their commercial significance. And that is 100% true. Okay, one of his albums, uh considered one of the best debut albums. Yeah. The album I'm talking about, the 77 one. That album is uh widely considered one of the best debut albums in rock history. And I have uh at least two uh copies of that album. Okay. And an influence on rock and punk music. He wasn't punk, but he influenced punk. Okay. Although he never applied the term new wave to his music, his early songs or early records helped define the genre. Allmusic said that his early albums changed the face of pop music by harnessing punk energy into a leaner, more incisive aesthetic that included pop hooks, uh virtually inventing new wave in the process. In 2013, a list of greatest albums of all time, uh new music in her, I don't know, I don't know what that acronym is, I'm not gonna look it up, uh, said that the this is his second album, uh defined the British New Wave. In 2009, their greatest albums of all time, Rolling Stone said uh the keyboard-driven um Accents Will Happen helped define New Wave. That was one of the songs. Okay. Um musical artists with little connection to New Wave have also acknowledged influence by appreciation of him. George Harrison praised him in 1979, commenting that he is uh very good, very good melodies, good chord changes. I am pleased about his success. Bruce Springsteen has said that comments that he made about Springsteen criticized Springsteen's early songs as excessively romantic. However, that led Springsteen to write darker songs for his 78 album, Darkness on the Edge of Town, which was very successful. Um somebody from uh Radiohead uh called uh Blood and Chocolate the album that made me change the way I thought about recording and writing music. Uh Liz Fair, in her appreciation of him for Rolling Stones, 100 greatest artists of all time, wrote, I'd pay a great amount of money to uh audit a course taught by him. Suzanne Vega called him one of the melodic geniuses whose music she listens to in order to stretch my sense of melody. Prominent artists in other fields have taken inspiration from him. Uh, Peter Blake featured him prominently in a 2012 reworking of a cover for The Beatles, Sgt. Pepper, Loman of the Heart Club band. Blake said he included people he admired and who had. contributed British culture. Okay, let's see. And then it talks about how filmmakers did some stuff they copied by him. Let's see, I'm jumping down. Uh somebody said Costello's sequencing said that he I don't know who this person is I think he's an author. Said that he was once his idol Okay we're talking about him people wrote about this guy too okay. Let me get killed so uh well like I said he's he's still he's still playing and I'll just say one more time that he has had 33 albums have charted worldwide and I don't want to list all the countries but there's like twenty some countries that all his art have charted in okay now I'm hoping that you guys maybe have something by him and if you don't I would say get something especially his first debut album My Aim is true Costello.
SPEAKER_03Yep.
SPEAKER_01Yep do you have my aim is true? My aim is true is one to definitely have in your collection as well. I think I might have a couple albums of his I can remember like old friends still come up to me and say you know back in the you know late 70s there's like geez Jerry I always remember whenever we came over to your place she'd always spin my aim is true he said they said you played that all the time yeah yeah and he's still going well I'm actually I'm I'm I'm reading a book he wrote a book that I'm reading now too so yeah I remember you mentioned him before um I have yeah I've never um it's weird I've never talked about either of these bands or artists but like I say I was so like into like finding all this new stuff finally I just went back to some of my old favorites and learned more about them love it I know that's I mean Record Club helps me more than it helps anybody else um I can think of.
SPEAKER_04Is that all you got then?
SPEAKER_01Well I just one one Irish band I'll just mention quick. Yeah sure and I can't remember I was reading something it must have been some other Irish band reading the bottom and then they said this name and I'm thinking to myself hey wait I've got an album by that name by that band's name uh the band's name it's pronounced um client client or something like that. It's spelled C-L-A-N-N-A-D. Oh yeah Clanad Clana do you have any other stuff? I I don't believe I do okay but you've heard of them. Yep good okay good you the one album I have it's and I just grabbed it just because oh it's a cool looking cover whatever but it's a little sort of of a kind of a spooky type cover it's all mostly black and it's got a girl's face and she's holding her arms up and it almost when you look at it you're look okay is that a person or is that a ghost? It's not like scary spooky it's kind of like interestingly spooky um and I listened to it it's a great band and they've got a bunch of other um albums too. I actually did get uh uh a couple more on eBay that aren't here yet but but yeah it's really a good band. Now who who said I couldn't tell if that was Eric or Justin that has has that band.
SPEAKER_03Uh I don't have any of them but I've heard of them so that was me.
SPEAKER_01Oh okay okay and plus I'm I was thinking to myself well if we if we have follow followers from Ireland they can they can they can like uh text in or in about yeah they're great you know whatever that's what I was wondering about too if if we keep doing stuff like um reading about a band before we say who it is some people might text in the right answer.
SPEAKER_04I mean someday we could do uh we could do like live shows and then people can can comment like a live stream oh yeah okay yeah you could do that on YouTube but you usually need you know so many followers before you can start doing live streaming on YouTube. Yeah yeah it was just something I thought of I was thinking yeah people are listening to us and might be some people will know this stuff better than we do and want to say something for sure no this yeah but this is this is good stuff Jerry Oh it was great yeah so I think we'll just do um I just want to just briefly just talk about just my experience listening to Jethro Tall and just kind of tease her into into uh next week's episode where we'll we'll dive a little bit deeper but um you know so Jethrol toll to me has been kind of this mysterious band that I really don't know much about like I've definitely heard them uh quite a bit um you know just through culture but didn't really know much of their songs and um you know growing up in the 90s classic rock was Led Zeppelin Pink Floyd Rolling Stones the Beatles and you know you list off a couple other ones but um you know my experience I never heard of Jethritol too much um you know maybe like once or twice kind of hearing it just thinking it's somebody's name right um and actually just uh funny quick story the first time that I I feel like I was actually exposed to the name Jethrole was in a um an Adam Sandler comedy movie called Big Daddy uh at the end of the movie he uh Adam Sandler he is uh in a courtroom he's actually he's on trial and he's he's on the witness stand and he's actually being questioned by his father and his father's asking him about you know where were you on you know the night of whatever and and he just kind of looks down and he's like Jethro Toll had a reunion concert so I caught that and then and then they pan yeah and then they pan to this old guy you know you know uh just in the in the seats or whatever he goes hell yeah when he says that and he's like and what happened to your aunt he's like and what happened to your aunt the next day and he's like she died um and so he pretty much like he had an opportunity to to see I can't remember if it was his aunt or or grandma or whatever um and so he skipped seeing them to go see this Jeff Old concert was I I kind of thought that was funny. And then uh just another story kind of nostalgic is uh Aqualung that song I remember listening to it in the radio with my dad my dad like singing along with it like my dad loved that song and yeah and so I didn't realize that that that that was Jethro Toll and um yeah and so fast forward to my adult life I I had heard of Jethro Toll I graduated to the the thought knowing that it's not a guy's name that it's just a band um but beyond that song um I didn't know too much about them and so a couple weeks ago Eric loaned me the album Stand Up Banquet Benefit oh sorry benefit sorry uh and then Aqualong and um and so it really made me want to know more about Jethrall Toll. So just a couple little tidbits that I learned Jethrolt obviously is not a person's name but uh well it was a person's name uh I think it was I can't remember which century 17th or 18th century but the guy invented the seed drill uh in agriculture so like um kind of a a push behind plow that you know with like a wheel and a and you put a seed in it and then it drills it into the ground and so it really sped up production of agriculture. And so fast forward to Jethrall Tull um in the early days the they were you know booking little clubs and stuff and they'd they they sounds like they kept on switching their names uh back and forth. They they went by a bunch of different um a bunch of different aliases here um including London Club oh no sorry um uh navy blue Ian Henderson's Bag of Nails Candy Colored Rain um I even heard uh the John Evans band was like another name that they um that they went by and so one of the I think it was also double check I think it might have been one of the promoters or maybe like the band manager I'm I'm not sure but um this guy finally got fed up with it and was like I got a name for you you're gonna be Jethro Tall and they're like okay and I guess Ian Anderson uh was even quoted by saying yeah I should have paid attention in history class uh because if I would have known what it was I probably would have shot it down but they just kind of rolled with it and the name stuck just a a silly um a silly little thing. I think I remember you saying that before yeah well so it kind of reminds me of the band The Circle that I covered uh several weeks ago where they were managed by Brian Epstein and kind of same thing like they just didn't have a name so they just picked something out of a hat and just gave them that name so that's kind of how the the name Jothrol came up came about. Wasn't it Frank Zappa who told the circle gave them their name and then told them to spell it uniquely no it was uh uh Brian Epstein and then John Lennon uh came up with the spelling okay yeah that's what it was yeah who whose whose song was Red Rubber Ball that was the circle no the circle took it from somebody I think oh um I think it was Simon and Garfunkel's song yeah it was it was written by Paul Simon yeah yeah see Simon and Garfunkel was gonna do that but somehow the circle did it first which as we know became a major hit. Yeah yeah and I think so yeah Paul Simon uh wrote it but I don't think he ever like I don't think he like recorded it and released it and then the circle came around and covered it I I think it was he wrote it but then just he kind of the circle beat him to it. Yeah and I think he kind of just gave it to the circle or something. I don't know maybe that'd be another deep dive. Yeah I don't know the all the details but yeah but yeah something kind of like that um yeah so and then uh I think another thing for a future episode is to go through all the band members of Jethral toll there is a huge list of members that have come and gone in that band. It it's quite it's quite remarkable. And as I've when I was doing my research it seemed like every time that a member would start to slip um you know so maybe musically they just weren't cutting it or they were st um there were a couple members that were getting into drugs they they would kind of just find a way to to get them out of the band.
SPEAKER_01And um and so I learned it's probably not an easy life being in a band.
SPEAKER_04No but I was just I was I was amazed with how popular Jethro Toll really was I I didn't realize like how big of a band they were I mean they were they were touring with Led Zeppelin they were they they had albums that were you know at the top of the charts in in the US um I learned that the albums stand up that they did which I learned they all the work that they did in the studio pretty much everything they recorded is on the album and it was I don't think it was done in one take but it was close to what you'd be considered one take. I guess they recorded it they didn't they didn't go back and and cut stuff out pretty much what they recorded is what's on the album and and I guess when they were done recording it they were all very happy with it and and it was like this really nice experience that they had and then we get to Aqualung and it's like the complete opposite they did like a hundred takes they were in the studio they were it was it was reportedly a very stressful time for them and Ian Anderson wasn't happy with it and so they went back and they pretty much scrapped it and they re-recorded the whole album over again and people are getting impatient but then at the end of the day they had a work of art that they were finally happy with that ended up being kind of their you know it was their Mona Lisa um it's it's one of their most famous albums. And so it's got the picture of the old man on the front uh and so it also made me dig into like what like why aqualung like why like what's up with the name of that song right so did a deep deep dive into that and so aqualung is a word given to like a scuba diver. So it it it was kind of a nickname so scuba um stands for self-containing underwater breathing apparatus and so aqualung was kind of like the nickname that was given to it early on and Ian Gellen uh one day saw his inspiration for the song was you know a homeless guy and the this homeless guy like the way or I don't know if it was a particular homeless guy but just homeless people in general the way that they would talk with like these just dirty raspy voices reminded him of of like a scuba diver of what you would kind of sound like if you were to be talking with one of those you know breathing apparatuses on so that's kind of the the origin of of that name um and where he kind of drew the inspiration from but uh yeah yeah so uh so did you say you were gonna do some more um Jethrotel next week yeah I think so because I want to do some more um some more diving into the the past members and and kind of where they branched out because that's really fascinating too because I've got uh somebody I was thinking about talking about next week that has a connection to Jethrotel.
SPEAKER_02Okay. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Yeah you should definitely do that. But I'll have a backup in case you cover them before me.
SPEAKER_04Okay. But yeah so it's it's been really fun to discover Jethro Tall uh listening to to the music. I I love the style and um even watched a few of their live performances uh the other day and uh they seem very entertaining um and then I found out uh my mother in 1975 saw Jethro Tall in concert which I thought was really cool they opened for Z Z Top Yeah yeah that's cool yeah that now did your mom go to like very many live shows or she might have seen some other people that she she seen a lot of um uh when I was a kid I remember her telling me that she saw Led Zeppelin in concert and I asked her how close were you were to the stage and she goes I was close enough to see Robert Plant's belly button there you go so she was pretty close yeah yeah I think uh I think my mom was was a pretty cool lady back then she sounds like it she saw what does she think of Record Club um you know honestly I haven't talked to her too much about it but um you know I I posted on social media the other day of of the album Alco Along oh you know this is what I'm listening to today and she commented on it and um but no I I I think um I think she would think it's pretty cool.
SPEAKER_01She was so too yeah she was always well maybe maybe she'll be a follower at some someday.
SPEAKER_04Yeah I I'm not sure if she really if she's the podcast listening type of person. Oh that could be too yeah um she she claims that she was born in the wrong century but no i in her youth I think she was very into um you know all the all the good bands that we consider you know the cool bands of the 60s and 70s she was into them and and often you know went to those those touring bands and and saw them so but yeah yeah so Jethro Tall very very cool obviously the you know you don't see too many too many bands where the front man plays a flute in a in a rock yeah really name one other one right but he doesn't just do the flute right like he um you know sings plays guitar um but yeah um definitely a pioneer in in the progressive rock movement um back then so and it was rumored that there might have been a little riff between um Jethrall Tull and Led Zeppelin too um because on tour Led Zeppelin and and I think I might have to dig deeper into this but um Robert Plant was quoted by saying like they don't they they don't improvise enough uh on the tour and when they go on stage they would do their same act uh every single every single show and I'm not sure what he meant by that but I'm I'm kind of guessing maybe it's the way that they maybe their set list the way they interact with the audience and it was like the same thing every night and and Led Zeppelin would improvise a little bit and they would change things up and so I think there was like a little resentment there and and supposedly later on in their careers um Robert Plant apologized to Ian Gellin for the way that they you know yeah uh Ian Anderson oh my gosh uh Ian Gillan was in deep trouble yes yes oh my gosh thank you thank you yep um but yeah so it's just there's a lot of cool history with Justin Waltall and it's been really fun to uh to to get to know them so so that's that's kind of my experience of that nice pretty cool yeah I was thinking a while back it's like I'm I'm envious of Justin because there's so much great stuff out there that you've yet to discover.
SPEAKER_03I know right yeah so I was thinking like like what bands would I want to like let you borrow next like I was thinking I can let you borrow like I said I have pretty much all of Just Rotal so you can kind of just grab more if you want but I was thinking like another fun band where it was like I was thinking about maybe sending you off with some more Uriah heap or Uriah heap just to be like you gotta get into these guys. Yeah I think that'd be good too because I've heard you guys talk about yeah they are so good. Yeah maybe some other like I mean m maybe what Jerry and I would consider to be like classic record club heavy hitters like Wishbone Ash or uh maybe even like a beav deluxe or just something a little bit stuff that's not but Uriah Heap would be good. Have you heard Uriah Heap at all Justin Eric have you showed me any of any of them maybe the magician's birthday?
SPEAKER_04Maybe okay um but is this and so is this another situation where Mariah Heap is is uh uh not a person like is this a person's name like it's a band right yeah it's a band yeah yeah band it sounds like a person's name okay okay then the then my guess is no uh I I'm pretty sure I gave you a a copy of Magician's birthday so you might actually have it no Okay well then I have one upstairs for you because I have a I have a double of it so remember I was like here you go you need to have this album okay and um I'll just send that with you. And how's it pronouncing it? Because I think I just said Mariah Heap and that's Uriah Uriah okay Uriah Heap.
SPEAKER_03I'm learning guys I'm learning it's all good oh yeah it's the best part there's lots of connections to that band too so you find one it'll lead you to others like Uriah Heap has like like John Wetton was in Uriah Heap which who later went into King Crimson so there's they're uh an amazing band. Uh Mick Box is a phenomenal guitar player the vocalist is astonishing like I'll like yeah I'll probably send you back with like maybe just like two heap albums and I'll be like we'll start slow I won't give you a whole ton of them but like here's some good ones to dig into. That sounds good.
SPEAKER_04Yeah yeah we'll take care of you Justin Well gentlemen I think that concludes this episode of Record Club in the name of wax.
SPEAKER_01Yeah in the name of wax we are a record club music lovers of the analog format it's just such a habit to just call it record club I mean we are a record club but in the name of wax in the name of wax we're an exclusive record club yeah can't get any more exclusive than us I don't think did I mention we're lovers of the analog format well it's a beautiful day and uh hope we all enjoy the beautiful day yeah I'm looking forward to it all right well thank you for your time as always and uh we will chat next week okay carry on by Jerry carry on yeah yeah talk to you later okay