If You Feel Lost, This Is Where It Begins

Welcome to the very beginning.

In this first episode, we’re opening the door and inviting you into our world; sharing who we are, what’s shaped us, and why this space exists.

We talk about the experiences that led us here, the moments that changed us, and the deeper work of coming back to ourselves. This isn’t about perfection or having it all figured out. It’s about honesty, growth, and creating a space where you can feel seen, understood, and supported in your own journey.

This podcast is for the ones who are questioning, healing, evolving… and ready to explore what’s true for them.

You’ll get a feel for the conversations we’ll be having—around healing, intuition, patterns, relationships, and the deeper layers of self-discovery.

Welcome weirdos, we’re so glad you’re here.

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Transcript

SPEAKER_00 0:00

I'm Carrie. And I'm Jane. Together we are your intuitive weirdos. Welcome to Unhinged, the Intuitive Weirdos, the podcast for people doing the inner work while still very much being human.

SPEAKER_01 0:14

We are two intuitive self-aware women navigating healing, motherhood, burnout, and the beautifully chaotic reality of life without the love and life filter.

SPEAKER_00 0:23

If you've ever felt a little too aware, a little too deep, or just slightly unhinged in a world that doesn't make sense, you're in the right place.

SPEAKER_01 0:33

Here we will explore deep topics that encourage our growth and mental health. No gurus, no dogma, just navigating through life's asteroids while trying not to spill your coffee on your morning commute. Just exploring with curiosity where we fit into the whole cosmic puzzle.

SPEAKER_00 0:47

Thank you for being with us here today. We're just introducing Unhinged, the intuitive weirdos. We are here to just introduce ourselves, get to know us a little bit more, and we'll start off with Carrie.

SPEAKER_01 1:00

Alrighty. So hello, I'm Carrie. I have always been fascinated by the subtle and invisible layers that run intertwined with our lives while we still navigate families, jobs, and our everyday lives. I dabble in real estate, aviation, and learning languages, and I have more hobbies and craft supplies than I'll probably ever get to in my lifetime. Two grown kids, and I mostly spend my days pondering the unponderable while trying to untangle my yarn in a state of zen interlaced with generous amounts of cussing.

SPEAKER_00 1:29

And I'm Jane. I've explored and dabbled in everything from Reiki to energy healing, hypnotherapy, and intuition in general. And by day, I'm a desk jockey. By night, I'm a mom, even though I'm a mom full-time. And then I'm just learning to let my freak flag fly a little higher every year. And we are here to share what we've been through.

unknown 1:51

Woohoo!

SPEAKER_00 1:53

All right. The date is March 16th, 2026. What's something uh fun and exciting, a little factoid about you?

SPEAKER_01 2:04

I once flew the Outback Steakhouse Blimp.

SPEAKER_00 2:09

Nice. All right. How about you? So 10 years ago today, at this probably very moment, I was flying back from Singapore. I'd been living abroad, and we had to escape in the middle of the night, and we made it just in time for my second nephew to be born. All right. So hopping into the card pull of the day, I asked intuitively, what do all the cosmic weirdos need to hear right now? That was my question. What question did you ask? Same question. Oh, okay, excellent. All right, you want to go with your card first?

SPEAKER_01 2:47

Yes. Okay, so I've got the holy mountain. Okay. And, and I'll read the little blurb about it here. Okay, so the essence. Native peoples around the earth recognize mountains as places of great power where one encounters spirit or where the gods or goddesses reside. In ancient Greece, Mount Olympus was the home of the 12 main gods and goddesses. In Tibet, pilgrims circumambulate Mount Kailash to bring prosperity. In Peru, pilgrims climb the ice-capped Mount Ostangate to receive the starlight and bring fire to earth. So the invitation is the holy mountain invites you to go on a sacred pilgrimage to acquire vision and perspective. First, you must accept the present situation as an opportunity to discover higher understanding. Find a sacred altar where others who came before you have prayed and found wisdom and make your offering there. Make a commitment to walk with courage, love, and compassion until you see with clarity the perfection of it all.

SPEAKER_00 3:45

Ooh, I like that. Okay, the card I pulled was from the dragon deck, and I got the earth dragon. Ooh. Yeah. And so that is clear your path in the land around you, stay grounded, be ready to serve. Stuck energy is clearing, and you can move forward in life. And some of the guidance is it's time to clear unwanted energies that are preventing your life from moving forward. Some of these may be in the earth under your home or office or where you travel. Call on the earth dragons and ask them to remove all that is not in accordance with divine light. Then sense the frequency rising within the land or on your path. All right.

SPEAKER_01 4:30

So I think both of those are very apropos for what we're doing and what we're starting here.

SPEAKER_00 4:38

Well, and I mean also like the spring equinox, right? So like spring is such a time to clear, renew. Yeah. All right.

SPEAKER_02 4:48

Perfecto.

SPEAKER_00 4:50

So what moving on into now? How has this week been energetically for you?

SPEAKER_01 4:58

Um pretty good. I've got a lot of things that I'm excited about and I've got some travel coming up. That's gonna be amazing. And yeah, just life in general is just all good.

SPEAKER_00 5:10

Nice. I'm settling into a space where I'm literally moving through some shit, clearing some stuff out, and just for the first time in my life, I think finding the enjoyment in this, this is what's happening right now. Like, and and more in a sense of observation, and and like it's been kind of a click for me, so it's been more exciting. Nice, love that. Yeah. Has anything tested your self-awareness this week?

SPEAKER_01 5:46

Testing my self-awareness. Yeah, I've had some interesting conversations with another person um surrounding anger, right? And just what anger, you know, how does that affect us? And are we angry? Are we not? Am I in denial that I'm angry? Was this person me? What's that? Was this person me? No, it was not you. That's good. I was like, No, it was not you. No, it was really conversation with different people. Yeah, I'll be using my.

SPEAKER_00 7:36

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 7:37

You know, one thing that did kind of test me recently is okay, so you know, some people know, like, I have no kitchen right now, right? I had some water damage and I'm going back and forth with my insurance company and all this kind of stuff, right? And the it's very frustrating to be in a position where I could do nothing about what's going on. And, you know, in talking to different agents and not talking to different agents when they don't call me back and that type of thing. You know, it's like, what good is angry going to get me? Like, where, you know, how is that gonna help? Because there's absolutely nothing that I can do about it. I can't make people call me back. I can't make, you know, whatever, whatever I can threaten and request and you know, please within three days give me an answer, whatever, whatever. But I can only sit in what is, you know? And when it comes down to it, my life is not that bad where this is going to, you know, it it's it's a disruption, certainly, but it's not that big of a disruption where uh, you know, I'm anything more than inconvenienced, right? So for me to get super angry about it is only going to make me angry for nothing, right?

SPEAKER_00 8:48

Like there's there's no point to it.

SPEAKER_02 8:49

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 8:50

And I think this actually perfectly ties into why we started this podcast, right? I and I know like when you and I were first discussing it, like for me personally, I would love for someone to have helped me, like put a hand out to help guide me up when I first was starting this. Yes, and I I have found this space at times to be such a gatekeeping space that we really wanted to create community around everyone is fucking welcome. Everyone can do this in their own way, and there's no, I think there's very few wrong ways of doing this, right? 100%. Yeah, yeah, absolutely.

SPEAKER_01 9:28

Yeah, you know, it's like one of the major things that I have learned over the years is I get to choose which emotions I want to follow after an event, right? So I I'm the one that gets to decide how I want to react to these things. I mean, of course, you're gonna have like initial shock, anger, sadness, grief, whatever, whatever. But it's like after that, what you do with that is it's kind of up to us. And being able to catch ourselves in that moment of like, I'm angry, but I can't stop it. You know, I mean, that's that's progress because you you know that you can see that that's happening to you, you know, and that's that awareness is just absolutely huge. It's critical, you know. Well, yeah, and I really wish that somebody had told me that years ago.

SPEAKER_00 10:15

Yes, and I think the the most important part there is the you, you get to feel whatever you want. Nobody else gets to tell you, right? Yeah, like no one else can tell you what you're experiencing, and absent of like sitting and wallowing in, but if you're being like honest with yourself, like yeah, you get to do you, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 10:37

And you know, I lived very much of my life not doing me, you know, just really allowing I don't want to say gaslighting, but you know, just just going along with, oh, you don't need that. Oh no, no, you're gonna be fine. Oh no, no, no, that's okay, you know, that type of thing. And I'm like, internally, I kind of knew, you know, just kind of rubbed me the wrong way, but I couldn't articulate that, you know.

SPEAKER_00 11:03

Having to make yourself small and not be the true authentic you, right? Like having not been able to shine brightly because you're afraid of your partner being annoyed by your laugh or you're talking too loud or whatever, or like your family disrupting class or whatever the situation is, or your family thinking you're fucking annoying. Guess what? This is fucking mean. If you're annoyed, walk away.

SPEAKER_01 11:29

Well, you know what? They're gonna this is what I found out too. It's like they're gonna people are gonna think whatever they're gonna think, whether you do one thing or the other thing or the other thing, they're still gonna go think things, you know, and it's up to me to choose my own knife that I want to stab myself with, right? It's like that's I don't need to do that, you know.

SPEAKER_00 11:50

Well, and I think so much like when other people are thinking things about us, it really has so much more to do with them and internally like reflecting on parts of them that that they could be working on more so than to do with us, right? Like they're our reflection for the shit we need to work on as much as we're their reflection. And I don't have to worry about anyone else's lessons. My kiddo and I are that's all I'm worried about right now, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And that's it. Yeah.

unknown 12:22

Oof.

SPEAKER_00 12:23

So what does unhinged but self-aware mean to you?

SPEAKER_01 12:32

To me, it really speaks of authenticity to just really go against the grain of what society expects of us to, you know, as far as like, you know, and that's a very common phrase, right? Like, oh, well, society expects whatever means. I was like, well, what is that? Like, there's so much to it in in the way that you relate with your family, the way that your parents expect you to behave and do things, the way that you know, your relationships with your siblings or your coworkers or just society in general. Women should be like this, men should be like that, you know, that type of thing. Kids should be whatever, and this is the only way to do it. It's like, no, everybody is gonna be doing things their own way, and that is the best way, you know, and everybody acts everything that everybody does, they do so with the with their to the they do it with the best of their knowledge, right? To be the most beneficial to themselves and their family. Yeah. Yes. So yeah, and it's just it's when we when you know we feel judged by others for what we're doing that that's that's where we get kind of hung up, you know.

SPEAKER_00 13:34

Yeah, and I think for me, a lot of that unhinged but like self-aware, I think that fundamentally breaks down to having like self-love, like really getting to know who you are so that you can unapologetically just fucking do. Like you're not gonna apologize for I'm not gonna apologize anymore for how fucking loud I laugh, for how like loud I can get. I'm not gonna apologize for speaking up when like we're in a room, like having a meeting at work and somebody's saying some stupid shit. Like I've learned how to like gracefully say, you know, you really think that's a great idea, but I'm not gonna apologize anymore for like opening my mouth. And I'm also not gonna fucking waste my breath. Like there are times that I'll be in the same meeting and I'll be like, you know what? I could say so much right now, but I'm gonna fucking conserve my energy because it doesn't fucking matter. And I think the unhinged part is living your life like so fucking to the fullest for yourself and whatever that means. Um, but the self-aware part is loving yourself to truly know who you are, your strengths and your weaknesses, right? And like understanding what that means.

SPEAKER_01 14:47

No, absolutely, absolutely, you know, and just you know, considering my thoughts, you know, like is what I'm thinking actually my thought, or is it something that's been conditioned into me?

SPEAKER_00 14:58

Right. Yes, yeah. Then then we're talking touching into the hypnotic realm, which you know I fucking love. So yes, yes, yes, absolutely, and then of course, we wanted to dedicate this show just for anyone feeling like there's more to life than what we've seen before us. Anyone who feels that longing, that nudge or itch to explore what lies beyond the everyday. And those are who who are curious about self-improvement, spiritual growth, and improving your mental health. And that is where we say, Welcome, weirdos. Welcome, weirdos. Good to have you with us. Yeah, happy. Thank you for joining us. Yes, um, so I think it's also helpful to kind of know like what were you like growing up?

SPEAKER_01 15:51

What was I like growing up? I was that weird little loner kid that was just always kind of like off doing her own little thing, you know. I was also the little nerd kid that on Friday afternoon would be raising my hand, but teacher, you forgot to give us some homework, you know, and the whole rest of the class is like, no, Martin, what are you doing? You know, yeah. So we absolutely just unaware. Just I had no social skills, no no nothing. I had just yeah, I'm just kind of wandered along wondering why I was getting picked on and beat up. So like so you're super popular. Everyone knew you, super popular. Yes, actually, I was pretty popular, but for the wrong in the wrong way.

SPEAKER_00 16:28

So yes, and I I grew up and I the middle younger of four girls in a very freaking loud, oftentimes chaotic house. I grew up like, you know, backpacking, playing sports, and I had friends. I just never felt like I felt like so foreign, right? Like even when we were hanging out, I never felt like I belonged. And when I went to college, I found some people that I like kind of got along with a little bit more, maybe felt a little bit more connected. But honestly, like I was just partying, so like I don't even really stay connected to many of my friends from college. And I think that sense of feeling so alone, I think that kind of resolved in my in my 30s when I finally was like, you know what? It's because I'm fucking weird and I love it. I'm gonna I'm gonna start owning that I'm not like other fucking people, right? Yeah, I don't feel like I fit in because this conversation is fucking stupid and I don't yes, oh my god, yes.

SPEAKER_01 17:38

Oh my god, yes. It's like you guys are talking about such dumb shit, like none of what you're saying is important about anything, and you're taking it so seriously.

SPEAKER_00 17:49

Oh my god, yeah, no, absolutely 100%. You're gonna fucking waste your brain cells on thinking about shit like that, like which there goes the judgment. Like, that is fully something I own that is like really hard for me to move through, but there are some dumb fucking topics out there, so yes, completely relatable. Yeah, and I and I think if you were to like ask people about me, I imagine you would get 50 million different fucking answers because in true Gemini form, I very much a chameleon and I've always have been, always will be.

SPEAKER_01 18:26

Yeah, yeah. Excellent, good, I love it. I love it.

SPEAKER_00 18:32

When did you realize that you were intuitive or sensitive or whatever the fuck you want to call it? Not to try to put certain labels.

SPEAKER_01 18:39

Yeah. So, okay, so I was raised um very strictly religious, which kind of was very kind of, which was a lot very counterintuitive to my actual world, where I mean, I remember even as I from a very young age, you know, seeing all the ghosts and seeing, you know, like you know, when they're zooming around the house or just, you know, just out in public, you know, I would see people's, you know, guardian angels with them and their guides and just, you know, whatever. And I'd be like, oh, who's that? And it's like, oh, nobody's there, you know. So I've always kind of known it. And I always had to, well, I learned very early to uh squash that and not say anything about it because it it did not end up well for me at all whenever any of that kind of stuff was mentioned. So yeah, I've just always kind of known it. It was suppressed a little bit in my teenage years because you know, hormones. Yeah, but it's just it's always been a factor that's that's been there for me.

SPEAKER_00 19:38

So when you say it was suppressed, like when do you feel like so just the teenage years and it came back like even in early motherhood?

SPEAKER_01 19:49

There were still little bits and glimpses of it during, you know, early motherhood. Yeah, that you know, my whole life there's always just been little things like that, but I haven't really had any focus. Like it will it wasn't until I was a little bit further into my adult years that I really was exploring it to the depth that that I am now.

unknown 20:08

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 20:08

Yeah. But it's like my whole life, there were always these little nudges and coincidences, and I was always able to, you know, I don't know, predict world events and you know, certain things, you know, and uh just and able to see, you know, the outcome of things of how things are gonna happen and stuff like that.

SPEAKER_00 20:24

So yeah, yeah. So it's kind of really incredible that you had that much suppression around you and you were able to turn off the sharing, but not stop the information from coming in, right? Because that's that's that's hard for a lot of people. And I know I know this isn't your first rodeo, so so that helps, but but that is like you know, many kids I think are spiritually gifted and and if brought up in a foundation like that, like would very easily shut that shit down. Like my oldest sister, so I don't have tons of memories like when I was growing up. I now can look back at the stories, and I think from a very young age, like there was probably shit going on. Like I would always, we weren't a religious family, but I would always ask to go with friends to like churches and their church stuff, and like feeling like a sense of like that search started, probably when I was in like you know, early, like first, second grade. Yeah, yeah. And the stories listening back, like my mom. So this is you know, preschool. She said, you know, she would take us on walks, and she had my little sister and the dogs and stuff. And when we'd be walking down the cul-de-sac, and I'd say things like, You need to leave the door open. Cause I had this witch and this monster that were my imaginary friends, but now I'm not so like sure they're imaginary. And I guess I'd sit there and they'd be like a Couple hundred yards back, right? And one day my mom, you know, just freaking having four kids and stuff, was like, I'm shutting the door, like this is ridiculous. And I just looked at her and I was like, He's gonna be very angry if you shut the door. And she was like, So I left it open. Yeah. Oh my god. So I have like those type of stories. I remember like those types of wanting, but I don't think, and I I think there was also like, you know, there's also different moments in my life where I could look back at more so than myself remembering. Right. Yes. Yeah. But I would say more so like on the sensitive side, I was always so hypersensitive to other people's emotions. That's what I do remember. The anticipation, like knowing what people were gonna be doing, even knowing like who people were. Like I had a family member that I could not stand from a very young age. And I would very I would I would call him Gargamil because that's who he most reminded me of. And sure enough, like as we got older, like he wasn't like, you know, creepy molester guy, but he wasn't a great guy either, right? Like, so I think that's more so how how it showed up for me in my youth.

SPEAKER_01 23:20

Yeah, yeah. You know, I had it was very similar to me with a sensitivity. It's like I could always walk into a room and sense that the people in there had just gotten done fighting or they had just gotten done making out, you know, or like whatever the vibe is, right? Like same thing, like with you, with whoever this you know, gargameld was, right? To you. You know, it's like I could tell the people who are creepy and who I want to stay away from and all this other kind of stuff. Meanwhile, everyone else is just like singing their praises, and I'm like, Yes.

SPEAKER_00 23:49

Yeah. Are you sure?

SPEAKER_01 23:51

Yeah, yeah, you should really. So yeah, but it was one of those things, it's like for me, it was such a natural part because I was so tuned in so early that I didn't, you know, it it was more of a surprise to me to find out that people weren't that or or intuitive.

SPEAKER_00 24:09

Yeah, yes. Well, and that's that's the other thing too, is like like you were saying, like growing up in the friend friends groups and be like, no, dude, that guy's a fucking dick, or that chick's a fucking bitch, or the guy's a bitch. Um, and people being like, What's wrong with you? And then like in time, it revealing itself, right? Right.

SPEAKER_01 24:25

And it's like, how many times do I have to say I told you so? How many times is I won't. It never gets old. Oh my god. Well, hey, I'm a Virgo, you know, I could be wrong, but but I'm not. Like if if all y'all could just trust what I saw and what I see, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 24:49

It'd be so much easier in school for him.

SPEAKER_00 24:54

When when do you feel like your healing journey like truly began? And what was that cosmic nudge?

SPEAKER_01 25:02

Okay, so I want to say it's it was in my early 30s, like late 20s, early 30s. And I had had a lot of stuff happen to me, like some huge, seriously traumatic stuff happen in my in my 20s just all at once. I had a bunch of people pass away all at one time, and it was it was awful, a bunch of family members. And I remember just, and it was such a shock to my system that you know the PTSD was just awful, right? And I remember sitting on my living room floor, and I'm just kind of and I'm watching the clock, and I'm like, can this day just be over with? And then the clock, instead of ticking normally, the secondhand ticking, it just jumped backwards a time or two. And I'm like, there has to be more than this. There has to be more than that. People have gone through worse things than me, and uh, they are happy. You know, how? How did how do they do that? What how there has to be something more, you know? And that's of course when things, huh, coincidentally started, you know, popping in and started, you know, people um started hopping into my life that hadn't, you know, sprung up before, and coincidences and doors opening and chance meetings and all this other kind of stuff. Yeah, that just kind of really led to some self-exploration of all that stuff.

SPEAKER_00 26:17

So yeah, I would say, like, my so it's funny, I I really look at like there's the nudges I remember, and then there's the looking back and being like, oh, that happened, but I missed it at the time, right? Yeah, because I would always find myself in weird situations, right? Like I would I would be talking in a group, and and somebody, some stranger would walk into a room with hundreds of people and fucking walk up to me and tell me their life story. Yeah, like yep, yep, yep. You know, like while I'm sitting there in a group and people being like, is that normal? And I'm like, Well, it's normal for me, is it not normal for you?

SPEAKER_02 26:52

Yeah, right.

SPEAKER_00 26:53

Same zero, yeah, and not not thinking too much of it at the time, but for me, I would say like the biggest nudge. I I have like these little scratches, I'd call them, like while I was living in Singapore, especially being in a different culture of just feeling like there is something more out there, right? And I remember I started getting into Reiki and I went and I got attuned, and it was like this magical moment, and there was lights washing over me, and there was like this night on this horse, blah, blah, blah, period. And I was like, oh my god, this is incredible. And then I just didn't do much with it. And then I would say, like, the biggest like catalyst towards like, all right, there's more to this fucking shit, and like let's fucking do this was having having my kiddo and just realizing like I need to figure this shit out because he's gonna know a lot, and I want to make sure I'm not super far fucking behind.

SPEAKER_01 27:54

Yeah, good, yeah, that's an excellent reason. Yeah. Oh man.

SPEAKER_00 28:02

So in your day-to-day life and for people just starting out on this practice, like what do you know now that you wish you would have known now that like back then, I should say, and you could have shared with yourself? Like, what's one or two things when you were first getting started would have set you up for like not feeling so alone or just like you're navigating through darkness?

SPEAKER_01 28:26

You know, immediately I want to say be patient, you know, be you know, be patient with myself. But as I think about it now, what really comes to mind would be don't beat yourself up over things that you've already done. You know, because there was there's so much of that just for every little thing in my life, you know, every moment of embarrassment, every little, you know, uh thing that, you know, that I said to somebody or did to somebody that out of my unawareness was harmful to them, or you know, I said something weird or wrong, or just, you know, just left a situation just weird, you know. It's like beating myself up for that is just it's again, it's it's picking up, you know, choose your knife and and cut yourself with it, right? It's like which which one? Do you want guilt? Do you want shame? Do you want embarrassment? Do you want anger? Like which, you know, how are you gonna damage yourself today? Right. So it's like there's none of this is clean, it's all messy and it's all up and down, and it's all a roller coaster and it's back and forth and up and down, and you think you're moving forward, and then it's two steps back, but it's like it's still always progress forward, right? Yeah. Yeah, I would just say like being so gentle with myself is is the biggest key. Just being so gentle and just forgiving, because the more judgment that I have on others, it's actually like you're saying earlier, it's more of it's a judgment on myself, right? So if I can just release that and be gentle with myself, the more it's gonna display out in my dealings with and relationships with other people, you know. So yeah, I wish that that I had known known that one is to just really be gentle with myself and and just just be patient because the good things are coming more than you could ever anticipate, but just it's guaranteed they're gonna come. You just be patient and just be gentle, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 30:12

That well, so I think I think two things. And this one I don't practice as much as I preach, but I think taking a journal of those winds, like writing down the something good that comes out of something bad, I think that's super important, or just writing down, you know, maybe you had a meditation and you got some really amazing aha moments, just writing those down almost like a little recipe book, a grimoire, whatever you want to call it. Yeah, but having something that in those darker days that you can look back and be like, dude, like I really do get through this fucking shit every time. And it sucks right now, but it won't suck forever.

SPEAKER_01 30:55

Dude, that is amazing. That thank you for that. I mean, that just sounds like a really good way to just build some resilience, the that resilience muscle, right? But yeah, you know, just yeah, you know, say this was a really fucky situation, but yes, I triumphed, I persevered.

SPEAKER_00 31:15

That through all of this fucking shit, this is what I did. I fucking lived. Did I die?

SPEAKER_02 31:23

No, I did you die, right?

SPEAKER_00 31:26

I mean, yeah, yeah, I do die, but but but I think I think especially if you're going this path alone and you don't really have somebody that you can bounce it back off of, that I think is really important, which equally is important and kind of tying into I think having a friendship, like our friendship, where we can bounce the shit off of each other. Yes, and having somebody that is not gonna coddle you, not gonna feed into your bullshit, but also not like make you feel bad for any of it, like they're gonna understand that you're going on your own path and having that like sounding board of somebody who can call you out when you need it in a way that you can handle, or like can be there to remind you of exactly what I just said. Like, okay, it's sex fucking now, but remember this. Like, you got through you got through that, you'll get through this, you know? Yes, like your own little personal cheerleader. Um, I'm gonna lump those together because I know I said one or two, but this one's equally as important. I think having a practice and and sticking with it, and whatever that is, like so. If it's doing something, just doing something for at least five minutes a day, and just as little, like everybody can carve out five minutes a day, like put your freaking device down, unplug, right? And just kind of connect to your higher self, divine, god, goddess, whatever you want to call it, and just taking that time to quiet.

SPEAKER_01 32:55

And I get the irony of people actually listening to this on their devices as you say put the device down.

SPEAKER_00 33:01

So put it down after you're done listening. Listen first, listen first, meditate later. Do your homework later.

SPEAKER_01 33:14

Or meditate first, listen later, whatever.

SPEAKER_00 33:16

Yeah, I guess. Okay. What do you what do you find like what practices have you found most useful?

SPEAKER_01 33:24

Like starting out and now where you are at starting out, meditation was not the draw that it is for me now. You know, just because I had so much bullshit to carve through from my childhood, from you know, from the the trauma that happened in my 20s, you know, just all of it. There was just so much to unhook that it was just it's difficult to untangle that ball, right? So what helped me at first was the practices that helped me at first was just talking to other people that had been there done that, right? That had experienced, you know, not not exactly the same tragedies as me, but I mean, certainly everybody knows somebody who's passed away or, you know, some some kind of something that's really made that that that's that that's that is a cataclysmic or like a catalyst for your next stage of growth and development, right? Like you we all have those punctuating moments, right? And there's gonna be somebody who's also had a punctuating moment who's navigated through it and can help you through to the other side. So yeah. And the whole thing is I truly believe when the student is ready, the master will appear, right? And that's certainly the case as it is, as it was for me at multiple stages in my life, you know, just those those mentorships and whoever, whatever you need to take in and and by whatever method, if it's a person or a book or whatever, it's it's gonna find you. It's gonna find you, so you don't need to worry about that, right? And then from there, things you you are free to just explore whatever direction that takes you, you know. So that's yeah, that's that's that, you know, for when I was starting out. And then just nowadays, I've really meditation is is so good. So good. Yeah. And we'll we'll discuss that at a later, at a later time, what meditation does and does. Yep.

SPEAKER_00 35:15

Uh the practices I find most useful these days, I actually have been super drawn to connecting with other people. That's like, you know, I schedule every week, I meet with two of the women that I went through hypnosis school with, hypnotherapy, and we connect just to kind of stay in. And we don't necessarily practice, but just I find having these conversations, even our conversations of you and I doing like mini intuitive readings for each other. So I am definitely more sporadic. I don't say I don't think I do one thing. I'm really good about doing the five minutes at minimum a day. But I feel like in this space, there's always something that you feel like you can be doing so much more of. And I think it's right now I'm just trying to capture with I like okay, so I'm focusing on my soul retrieval. I've been in the middle of that, and I have little exercises I need to do in between, and I'm not putting this pressure on, oh, I need to be doing so much more. I'm really just doing. So that's been helping me a lot lately. I think when I was first starting out, I think what would have been most useful is I felt like this space had to look like something. And I felt, you know, very like hay house image, new Age image. And I think I don't totally fit that. Like there's some things I freaking love, but I never felt quite like I fit with it. And I think in that not feeling like you fit, then sometimes it feels like you're doing it wrong, right?

unknown 36:53

Right.

SPEAKER_00 36:54

There's no wrong way to do this. That, that, so that know that there's no fucking wrong way to do this. Pick up one book at a time, practice it. Maybe you don't make it through the whole book, but make that your five-minute practice. And I think that's a bigger thing. Know that there is no wrong way to do this, right?

SPEAKER_01 37:14

And it it's true, you know, it just it really does look different for everybody, you know, and it's the whole like trying on a coat, right? Like, you don't have to buy every single coat in the fucking store. You buy what fits and what you like. That's it, and then just go to the rest, right? So all these practices, all these avenues, all these, I swear this is the only way you can whatever. No, no, no, no. There's no one way that that fits anybody, like just take take what you take what fits and you know, we've done it. Don't worry about the rest, yeah, because it does work for other people, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 37:44

And the rest you might circle back to it later in life, and it does make sense. Yeah, so all right. Well, on that note, we are lung in the tooth or however that old saying goes. So just you know, to all the listeners, the one or two of you out there, thank you so much for all two of you. Thank you so much for taking the time to listen, to get to know a little bit about us. And until we meet again, stay self aware, stay a little unhinged, and remember healing doesn't have to be graceful.

SPEAKER_02 38:17

Thank you, thank you. Bye.