F***ing Your Friends Is Fun!

What happens when a one-time hookup turns into one of your favorite friendships?

This week we're joined by our good friends Selene and Stone, a couple who prove that sometimes the best connections in the Lifestyle happen long after the bedroom door closes. We dive into how they survived their rookie year, the challenges of finding genuine people, and why one phrase has become a running joke in our friend group:

"F***ing your friends is fun."

From Bliss Cruises and meet-and-greets to vacations, weekend adventures, and unforgettable playdates, we're discussing how friendships evolve, why dating in the Lifestyle can be exhausting, and whether building a close-knit "coven" of sexy, trusted friends is the secret sauce to long-term fun.

We also get into attraction, chemistry, jealousy, emotional connections, and what happens when the sizzle refuses to fizzle. Are we all just friends who occasionally get naked together, or is something deeper happening when you genuinely enjoy spending time together both inside and outside the bedroom?

Grab a drink, settle in, and join us for a fun, honest, and occasionally outrageous conversation about friendship, desire, and why some of the best people in the Lifestyle become family.

As always, send us Fan Mail, leave us a rating, and come say hello. We'd love to hear from you.

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This podcast is intended for adults 18 years and older. We keep things honest, open, and sometimes we get a little spicy with conversations about relationships, lifestyle, and experiences meant to be fun, entertaining, and oh very real. Everything shared on the sexy swinging vampires is based on our personal opinions and experiences. We're not professionals or experts. We're just having sexy, fun conversations and inviting you in along for the ride. Listener discretion is advised, and a sense of humor is highly recommended. Welcome back, all you sexy vampires. I'm Brad, and this is Milo. I'm Breny. Welcome to Sexy Swimming Vampires. Yes, that's welcome to it. We are in the mountains of Arizona. We are in this outdoor beautiful breeze here. So if we sound a little different, listeners, chill out. It's gonna be good. We're gonna have a good time. It's just fun. We decided to come outside, get on a back patio. Well, we're taking it on the road. We took it on the road, absolutely. And we took it, and we've taken it pretty good for the last couple of days for sure. So, all right, real quick, let's start out with uh fan mail because we're still getting fan mail through our Buzz Sprout app, yeah, through Apple, through Spotify, all those apps. All you gotta do is click on that little link and you can actually text us a message, but we just got our very first voice message message. That was awesome. That was pretty cool, and actually we can incorporate that into. So if you want to actually ask us a question or something like that, you can do that, and then I can put it all together and then play it here, and then we can answer the question. That would be a lot of fun. I would love to hear questions from our listeners. I know um the swing nation does like uh Tuesday talks. Tuesday talks, right, where they answer questions. I think that's really cool. I love how they do that. So shout out to Lacey and Dan. Or Dave, I think is what it was called this last week. It was kind of funny. Oh, Doug, that's what it was. All right, so how shout out to Doug and Lacey. How else can people connect with us, Brittany bitch? Instagram is one of my favorites. So um we have Vampires Brad and Brittany on Instagram. Yep. Um, we also have sexyswinging vampires.com. Yeah. You can reach out to us either there or on Instagram. How about meeting us? Where's the next time you can meet us? Oh my gosh, we've got I call it June Topia. It's not June Topia. It's actually you or Utopia, but because it's in June, I call it June Topia, though we're doing that uh here in Scottsdale. So that will be fun. That's it. So if you guys are going to that, if you if you haven't booked already, there's I think there's a couple of rooms left. That'd be a lot of fun. I think this podcast is about to come out right before we go. So good luck. If you can show up to that, but we'll keep you guys posted. We'll not only put that on our our website, but we'll also put that on our Instagram and come search for us, see if we're are the faces match the voices, right? Yes, and then as we are growing, we have listeners all over the world now, and one of them or two of them, maybe three of them, are in Italy. Uh-oh. And so we have your home country on the yes. So if you will allow me to speak in my native tongue, which is English, but I'm gonna try with Italian. It's gonna be so Brittany bitch is no longer Britney Bitch, she's Britney Butana. But Britney Butana. That's how you say that. So hopefully that's what they're calling you in Italy. And then uh I do want to say this with a is that a term of endearment in Italy, though, or in Italian. It isn't. Uh Butana? Yeah. I mean, it could be, you know. It is just kind of what it is. Keep sucking but I don't know. Suck my bukiak. And then the last thing, this is the thing my dad always said to my mom, and I was like, oh, she must really love this. And it was Manja Stukat's Boukyak. And I don't know what that means. Oh, you know what that means. He's lying. All right, I'll get all that out of the way. And I can't. It's a whole bitch just like yeah. And I have to bring up who's here with us today. Oh, who do we have? Because fucking your friends is fun, isn't that, Brittany Bench? God, it's one of my favorites. Welcome, Celine and Stone, guys. Thanks so much for being on our podcast. Hi, guys. Excited to be here. Hello. Thanks for having us. And you actually stone, so you actually coined the phrase. I did. Fucking your friends is fun. And I love that. We kind of put this together and you cloned it, and it's one of my favorite sayings today. Yeah, it kind of came about after I think the first time we played with you guys. Um Celine and I walked away going, that was fucking fun. That was the really the first time in the lifestyle we had a lot of fun having sex with our friends, and just that's kind of where we coined the term. I'm like, yeah, fucking your friends is fun. It's kind of our job. That was our takeaway from the first time we played with you guys. Like I'm telling Kevin Celine, uh, you know, fucking your friends is fun. Well, we started as friends, right? So that's how it came to like, hey, now we get to fuck our friends. I think we have a very unique relationship. And we're gonna dive into that for sure. I I definitely this because this is what's so intriguing about the four of us. And I think our listeners are going to be like, huh, how does that how does this all play out? But Brittany, I want you to how would you describe our our friends here, Celine and Stone? I mean, be just sexy. As people and as sexual. Oh, I'm like, besides fucking sexy. Yes, that's so good. I mean, just amazing people. So I remember the first time we actually met them, um, we went and met them amongst friends and they were introducing us and it was really cool. But it was nice just to connect without like expectations, if that makes sense. Uh understanding, hey, you know, let's build friendships because I don't think you guys were even looking for a four-way at that point. And I was fine with that. Where it was just like, well, you're cool people, I just want to be friends with you. Um, and then we got to spend time with them on the bliss cruise, and I got to know Celine a lot better and started building that relationship. And that honestly was probably my favorite part is just building a friendship outside of expectations of fucking. Does that make sense? Yeah, yes. I mean, I said describe. Oh I'm going with Celine to me. I mean, they're hot and sexy. She's as beautiful fatigue. She's sexy Pocahontas. That's what I like. And I I did ask Stone if that was offensive or not to you, and you said no. He said no. See, the interesting thing is I'm more emotional description. You're more like the physical description. Yeah, they're both fucking sexy. Stone is this sexy stud with unlimited stamina. Yes. Gentlemen. And I want to add, I think that we should give you a last name, Mr. Pounder. Stone Pounder. Because you were a major Stony Pounder. You're a major in the army, if I'm not mistaken. So major pounder. Maybe not. All right. Bad joke. So I had to try that. All right. Now, how would our listeners know you guys? Two plus two. That's correct. Remember what episode it was? 43. Exactly. That's what it was. And you guys sat into uh in for Brittany and I. Yeah. Yes. And you guys did an amazing podcast with those two guys. And yeah, you guys did a really good job. So I was like, you know what? I'm sad that we missed it, but I'm glad. But I think there was a lot of stuff that was not finished. Would you not agree, Ston? Agree. Yeah. So there were some parts that you wanted to get into a little bit more. Sure. Is there anything specific that jumps out of your mind? Well, um, we didn't really get to talk about where we're at today. And we are going to get to that. Yeah, we we kind of were taking a step back and looking at our history and our evolution through the journey, and not really where we're at today. And to me, that's some of the most exciting content there is is stuff we're doing today, because we're we're we're in our stride and we're, you know, just over two years into this, maybe three, and you know, we're we're building a sexy circle of friends, and you guys included, of course. And we are definitely doing that. Yeah. So Selim, I ask you a question real quick. So play preferences, what are they? Um I prefer like Britney. Yeah. Group play. Group play. You guys are the same room. Yes. You guys are definitely together. Full swap. Full swaps, orgies. Orgies. Yeah. Yes. Selena and I put together some amazing hortiens. And you don't mind a unicorn every now and again? We have. Yes. Yeah, we enjoy a unicorn. We we like the three-way connection. Um, but yes, we're really enjoying the four-way connection and orgy play. And your preferences have basically stayed the same, right? Um, since day one, or have things changed for you guys, evolved? They've definitely evolved. You know, as I said uh on the two plus two podcast, you know, we started this journey with me wanting to play with women. I finally opened up to Stone about it that I wanted to be with women and play with women. So that's how we started. That would have been difficult to turn to your spouse and say, Hey, this is what more I want. Did you feel that way? Or I just I look inside myself and go, I don't want to hurt Brad by any means by saying, Hey, you're not an like, I don't want him to feel like he's not enough. Does that make sense? It does make sense. And I didn't feel like that. I actually had gone on a women's retreat, and it really made me look inside my sexuality. And so I came home from this woman's retreat just feeling liberated, alive, full of fire, full of energy, and it was very easy for me to share because I just knew that stone would support me in anything that I wanted to pursue. So you admit to being a bit bi then, is that correct? Were you bi before the lifestyle or bi curious? How d how would you describe that real quick? Um, yes, I am bi. And my whole life, even when I was in junior high, high school, I was always attracted to women and thought they were beautiful. And then as I got older, it became more of a fantasy sexual um thoughts in my mind. And so I just kind of kept it to myself, you know, being a mother and you know, raising kids, I just kind of put it on the back burner. But after this retreat, I'm like, nope, I'm first. Stone. Stone, is that accurate? And do you find it a chore that you have to service two women now? I'm really thinking about you, my friend. That is accurate. She uh she came out and said she wanted to explore women. We made that happen in pretty short order, and she started to explore and enjoy herself, and then she decided, you know, I I want I want him there too. And um because you started out going on dates with women, right? It wasn't about me. She was playing separate with with with a woman to experience it. And that that's what she wanted, that's what I wanted, but then she soon realized that she wanted me there too. So that's where the threesomes came into it. But it was initially never about me. It was just about her getting to explore and figure things out, and that's what she figured out is that it's fun, it feels great, but she wanted me there too. And I think that's why um the transition was so natural to me, because he always made it about me. He never asked to join, he never I mean, what man wouldn't want a threesome, right? But he never gave I never felt any pressure, just total support and love and just wanting me to have this fantasy that that I craved. And so I think for me, when I did have a play session with another woman, I just kept thinking I wanted him. And it was me who came to him and said, I really want you with me. I want you to experience this with you because I feel incomplete without you. And it just made it so much hotter. That's sexy. I didn't object. No, I mean, who are you to deny your beautiful wife what she needs to feel sexy to feel like? I think you called her your queen last night. My queen. You did call her the queen, and you know, as as as we should call our wives the queen, because I do feel like Brittany calls me a king, and I'll take that, and I just you know, I take that as a huge badge of honor. So pleasurable. All right, so a couple points from that episode, you know, that we were talking about on the two plus two that I want to bring back. And if you never heard that episode, don't worry. This episode's gonna be very relatable, so you won't have to go back to listen unless you want to. I do think it was a really, really good episode. So it's it was it was, yeah. It's it's a great way to get to know Stone and Celine. So uh how would you describe your first year or your freshman year of swinging? Because you guys had a very interesting first year. Take it, Celine. It was a very interesting year. And, you know, we had struggles for sure. We even though we took it very slow, we had some struggles and some feelings to go through. Um, even though I thought it was hot to have a threesome, you know, I did feel a tiny bit of what I thought was jealousy, but now I've learned is uh envy. And um, you know, we both had feelings to work through, um, which, you know, my advice to newbies is definitely listen to this podcast because you think your feelings are ridiculous, but then you listen to other people and you realize that they have gone through the exact same thing. So don't ever beat yourself up about feelings that you're feeling. And be and being a slow burn is okay, right? And actually, I think that probably benefits you guys because I think there's some vampires here that get to totally crazy and they just go hog wild and they think it's Yeah, new vampires seeking out blood. Yeah, seeking out blood. So um or notches and belts. That's exactly right. Body counts, right? That's what we're talking about here. So um so in your first year being the slow burn, did you guys have many friends in the lifestyle, or did you guys have to start from scratch? Because we didn't know you well, we barely knew you the first year, and we'll get into that in a second. But did you have any friends in lifestyle? We did not. No. You just took a leap. We did. And you leaped up. So really quickly, so you're you want to explore women. How did you find women? Um, on an app. Okay. Um so similar to like a Cassidy or SDC or something like that. Okay, just for women. Okay. Yeah. But this was a specific by Cupid, I believe it was called um app. So yeah, we stone actually set that up for me because I didn't know how at the time. But uh yeah, that's how I met. Okay, so you did that, and then you because I remember meeting you guys on the Bliss cruise, and this was your first like introduction to four, like considering four-way, right? Um you guys weren't on Cassidy or anything else when it came to four-ways at that point, or were you? Yeah, I don't quite remember how the timing worked out. When we went on that cruise with you, or we met you, that was our 29th wedding anniversary, and that was really our first anything in the lifestyle. We were dabbling in it, talking about it, fantasizing about it, but really hadn't done anything. And then we bored the Bliss Cruise to try to kick things off. Talk about a humongous leap, though. Yeah, and this is very simple. I've heard of this a lot, though. Big and little Texas, you guys know those guys, right? They did the same thing. They did, they weren't even in the lifestyle, they just jumped in and they're like, let's go to Desire RM. And that's how we met. Let's see what happens. And let's see what happens. It was totally incredible. But you guys don't live by a big city, so that's why I'm like, how do you meet people being all the way out here? So you had to jump in and go, okay, you know what? We've got to go to uh some kind of lifestyle takeover. And the Bliss Cruise is possibly as big and as overwhelming as you can possibly imagine. Am I right? Did you guys feel overwhelmed? We did a little bit, but you know, our our attitude going into it was, you know, we haven't been on a cruise since our honeymoon. And this is gonna be fun. We're both very sex positive people. I used to sell dildos and vibrators and talking about sex is so easy for me. You know, I used to do passion parties and I loved it, and I made a lot of money because I was very comfortable talking about sex. It's actually kind of funny. So you were selling dildos, so kind of like a car salesman. So how do I get you on that nine-inch dildo? What's it gonna take for you to pull this chainsaw and use this vibrator? Not very much. Wow. You see, you see Celine doing it, and you're like, Yeah, I mean Did you have to ever test them right in front of people by chance? No, no, and it usually wasn't. She should have. She would have sold everything. It usually was women in their home, and we just laughed and laughed all night long. And at the end of the night, they all lined up and they bought, you know, because I believed in the product. I I loved it. So yeah, it was easy and it was fun. So Stone and I are both very sex positive people, and you know, we love sex. And so, you know, it was actually my idea to book the cruise. Um, we were actually on SLS, and that's how I saw the Bliss cruise. I'm like, hey, let's go on this cruise. You know, we don't have to do anything. We're gonna go on a cruise. We could just have sex with each other, which we'd never had sex in front of anybody, and uh, let's do it. And uh he's like, sounds great. And we were a little nervous, but we went into it with there's no expectations at all. We're just gonna have fun. I get to dress sexy, which I was so excited about. That's yeah, what I looked forward to. And uh I think we quickly realized we were amongst our people, right? We did. We just just walked in and felt really comfortable with the culture and the people and what was going on, even though it was our first step into the lifestyle, it did not overwhelm us. We we just felt very comfortable with the energy and the people and what was going on. It was a natural fit. And people that are listening then that are like, oh, I can't go on those things. All they want is just to have sex, and then I'm gonna have to go on there and spread my legs, or you know, that is not the case. It's about meeting people. Yeah, is that what it is? If you if you fuck people, that's just a a bonus. But it's really about meeting great people. No pressure from anybody. Everybody was so nice. You know, if you're on the fence about going, I say do it because we just had a blast, and you know, there is absolutely no pressure. Stone, from your perspective then, what were your major struggle major struggles then compared to your challenges now? Just being new, entry level. Um, I hadn't hadn't quite got comfortable with, you know, all the different dynamics of four-way play, seeing my wife getting her brains fucked out by another man and and seeing her enjoy that with another man. And you know, having I I've never I don't have those images in my my hard drive yet, right? So, but then over time you start to see things and experience things over and over. You have to decide for yourself is that sexy or not? Is that hot or not? Do I enjoy that or not? And ultimately where I got to, where I was uncomfortable or unsure about those experiences initially, over time, those things that initially made me uncomfortable really start to turn me on. And so mu much different place then versus versus now. So back then it was just all the newbie all the newbiness of it, right? Um get having to experience some of these things and experience non-monogamy and sharing your most prized possession, yeah, and seeing her fucking love it. So going, is this is this going to break us? Is this going to change things? Is this going to, you know, hurt us in any way? And those are the questions I think newbies run into, especially when you see kind of that envy element where you're like, God, she is getting her brains fucked out. That's the word I use is I use the word unnerving because it's something that you not a PTSD type of thing, but it is something that you're never ever prepared to see for the first time with your eyes, your wife, and a guy's balls deep inside of her, and she is screaming like she's never screamed before. And so you remember our remember our conversation the very uh at the pool on the very first Bliss cruise together? You actually pulled me off to the side and started asking me, like, what is this? Like, how is and you talked about that again on the on the uh on the two plus two podcast. I asked, I I knew I knew you and I um were in different places in terms of our lifestyle journeys. You were you were more advanced, you were more of a junior, senior. I was freshman sophomore level, it felt like and and I was still dealing with some of those insecurities, and at the end of the day, that's what it turned out to be just personal insecurities. Um I remember asking you, do you enjoy um watching your wife get fucked? And you're like, oh yeah. And you're like, when I hear that, yeah, and uh you're like that fucking turns me on, and I'm and I just realized I'm not there yet. Yeah. And uh I kind of knew I wanted to be there, but I just wasn't there. I still wasn't uh wasn't s settling well with me, but over time it slowly did. It turned into something hot, turned into something sexy. You know, you we were talking last night, hanging out here about some of the benefits of the of the lifestyle, some of the you know, not not not having sex with sexy people, but for example, our self-esteem, right? And and getting into the lifestyle uh ultimately helped me overcome a lot of insecurities I didn't even know I had, just just naturally carrying around in a monogamous life that I'd never really thought about. And when we entered the lifestyle and we started to share each other, um the things that made my gut hurt were really at the end of the day, I realized they're just my insecurities. Yeah. And only through the lifestyle I feel like could I ever have reconciled those feelings and get to a place where I'm at today where I'm supremely confident about myself, my body, our relationship, and our our play. Yeah. And lifestyle. Well, we were talking to our women yesterday about that too, and they both have said that they've seen us growing as men too. Right. That we've got a such a high we we were always confident men. We were alpha males to a certain degree, right? And now it's really gone beyond that. How about you, Celine? What would you would you agree that same question that I had? What were your what were your struggles and major challenges in the first year, you know, going through all that? Same. It was really hard, you know, seeing him um with another woman. And then I would talk to myself, talk it through like you're the one that asked him to do this, you know, you wanted him here. And so yeah, it was things that I had to work on myself to get past that. And, you know, honestly, this is a little bit off your question, but for me, the more comfortable I am with a woman, the more I know her, the closer I feel to her, if I have a connection with her. Her, it is hot. I love to watch Stone fuck another woman. But you know, for for newbies, just you know, if you are feeling this, it's in my opinion normal. If you don't have a connection with the woman and you haven't had that time to make the connection, um, it might be a little bit harder to see at times. What about you, Brittany Bitch? Do you feel like our f our freshman year and swinging here? Was it similar? Did you have very similar feelings as Celine? I think so. Although I wasn't as envious um starting out, and it was interesting because you were going through some envy. Um, and almost it came later, but I think it was because of what Celine talked about with the connections. So we were somewhat deliberate in meeting women um and those connections, and then I hadn't experienced some of the I'm gonna say off connections until later. And then that's when I started recognizing connection and vibe is really important to me. Um, and more with the woman, similar to what Celine's talking about. Most definitely. I agree with you on that one as well. I think that for from my freshman year to now, what bothered me then doesn't bother me now. You know what I mean? And now I am getting very into watching um Britney's pleasure. And I mean, to the point where it's like I'm not even getting touched, I'm getting totally turned on watching what she's doing to maybe stone, and I'm like, damn, that's fucking hot, and keep going, you know. And then of course Celine and I are sitting here in the corner going, damn, we get all frisky, and then it just you know just keeps going. So all right, so now let's fast forward to the present day. As we said, Stone says, Fucking your friends is fun. Are we friends? Yes, are we having fun? We are, it's incredible. I was just thinking about the other night. So you were talking about just watching, and I remember Stone and I were playing, and you were just there stroking yourself. Uh Celine, I think, had gotten up to get a glass of water, and I was like, that was fucking hot. I don't know. So, anyways, it's just something you can't control like this at this point. And you you know, and you think about for me, thinking about it like I'm really stroking my own cock, watching my wife fuck another guy. Just saying that out loud is kind of interesting, would you not agree, Stone? Some of the conversations we have at home will be talking about something, like let's even say our night, and it'll just be random day, like midday conversation. We'll look at each other and be like, you can't have this in a vanilla setting, right? So why do we wh why do some vampires why aren't they like us? Why don't they want or care to build friendships in the lifestyle? I guess I do. Um, I think everybody, number one, is different. Everybody's looking for different things in the lifestyle, right? Not everybody wants these connections. They just want to fuck. And that's okay, right? But for us, I think knowing our personalities, knowing who we are, knowing we want those connections, it's different. However, we've had some of those connections before where I'm just gonna or I'll call it DTF or down to fuck, right? Where it's like, okay, those were fun, but great. It's it's a one and done. And that's kind of their style. You know, I guess alluded to earlier, our relationship is really unique, I think, um, in in the in the lifestyle, because we spent so much time just being friends before we ever played. We were both quote unquote in the lifestyle, but just the way our dynamics played out, we just became friends. You guys were coming to my gigs, we were hanging out together in you know, non-play environments, and we're just building a friendship. And play was really just kind of on the back burner for for whatever reason. Our four-way dynamic, the four of us seemed just as interested in building friendship and camaraderie than playing. And play just kind of came later as we became better and better friends. Um, I don't know what changed, but we turned a corner and it turned to play. And I think that's unusual, right? Most most people who are in the lifestyle, it it's about play first. And if you have good play or good chemistry, friendship might evolve after the fact. But that's what I'm wondering about is because I because I am talking to other vampires too, and I do see that they do have some friend groups and things like that. Although we don't necessarily just stick to our group, right? We we actually try to introduce friends to you guys, and you do the same for us. Referral basis. Referral-based swinging here is what I like. But you know, I back to our friendship. I I want to I feel like we skipped over a little bit. You started down this road, but skipped over. I really want to kind of set the scene here. I want, you know, we are friends, so what are we doing this weekend? We're we're at mine and Celine's home in Muggy and Rim of Northern Arizona, up in the cool pines at 6,500 feet. You can hear the breeze running through. It's amazing. At this our beautiful home here in the mountains and this beautiful backdrop backyard. We're out in the back patio. So we are outside. You mentioned that the ambient, but just look around. It's sunny, it's a beautiful day, birds chirping in the background, and we are great friends, and y'all came up here for a sexy weekend. So that's that's I want to make sure your listeners uh stone is sitting here naked. Our first guest ever naked on this year. It's awesome. But no, I agree with you, Stone. That the depth of our friendship has gone gone here, right? And we planned this out about six weeks ago. We had hoped to have two other couples join us here, but you know, people get sick, people have family things going on. It is what it is, but we still mate are making the best of it. And I will tell you, we've had two play sessions, right, since we've been up here, and they have gotten better and better. And this is what I'm trying to figure out. Like, we've we continue to one up our last experience. So that's it. I it's just a great friendship. You know, we're not poly. We've actually had to have that conversation, and we'll get into that a little bit for a second or two. We'll go back to that one. Yeah, exactly. Every other weekend is a lot less. Stone wants to switch every other weekend. My bread baking, that's all he works. Sourdough. Some bagels. But my my thought on people why they don't like to build friendships, I think is because they want to protect their marriage, maybe to a certain degree. You're nodding there, Celine. Is that something that you would agree with as well? Yes, you know, actually, um, before we formed this friendship, I did feel that way. Like at first I was like, yeah, it'd be cool to have friends that, you know, fucking your friends would be fun. But then I'm like, oh, you know, what happens if feelings start to form? You know, you don't know what you don't know. And again, we didn't have this friendship at the time, but I did have those thoughts. And I I think that maybe that's why a lot of people like to be one and done. Yeah, I would agree. And it's would you not agree with that too, Brandon? No, I think that's a good call. But you know, if you read profiles, everybody, 99 people out of a hundred, say we want to make friends. It's quality over quantity. We want great friends that we can hang out with and do this and that with. Everybody says that. But I feel like at least our little chemistry here, we we've achieved that. This is exactly what we were looking for. So we feel very thankful for our relationship with you guys because everybody says it. We said it too, and you know, we got it with you and and a handful of other people, and it's really fun. Yeah. Sorry, I want to add something real quick. So when we talked about that first year and forming our friendship, and you know, Brad asked, you know, how did how did that happen? And I'm gonna give Brittany all the credit because she was so in tune to me. She knew I was new, she knew I had some struggles, and she did not want to add play until she knew that I was absolutely ready. And our whole entire friendship that has been two years or more, the both of us are constantly checking in with each other. Are you okay? Is this okay? And uh, you know, Brittany is one of the nicest people I've ever met. And she, even the first time we played, she communicated with me the next day checking in and the day after that. Are you okay? How was that? Are you struggling with any feelings? And right now, that warmed my heart. Like that was something that nobody and I did not expect anybody to do. And so our friendship between Brittany and I is so strong, and we truly care so much about each other and each other's feelings. And so, you know, Brad, when you say, How did we get here? Or, you know, I it's because we all care deeply about each other and we always want to make sure that the other person. I like that a lot. And I like to also say, too, because you know, I Britney does that because she respects marriages to the top, like the top priority, I think, too. She wants to make sure you guys are so so solid too. And she doesn't ever want to step out of out of bounds, but she absolutely wants you to feel so comfortable. I guess you probably knew because she was kind of a younger vampire too, right? Or did or is it just something that you sensed on her? No, I think we so luckily Celine had even opened up to me. So how we got to a point where she was opening opening up and being honest really truly helped me. But understanding where she was at, where she was coming from, um, and sharing those details helped me move along. Right. And then it also continued forming our relationship. And let's say we hadn't even ventured into this lifestyle and sharing each other. I still would have really cherished that friendship because her and I just have a great connection. Um, at least I I feel like that. And from the beginning I always felt that. So yeah, and you guys are describing the four of us. And that was actually going to be my next little segment here. So we're already kind of jumping into that. So that's basically the description of us. We're very, we're we're four very close friends. We don't live near each other. We're hours away from one another, but we still keep in touch. We talk to each other once in a while, like almost every other day at the minimum. And sometimes it's shenanigans, it's flirtation, they know building up to a weekend like this. I think that's what makes us strong. And you know, I I really appreciate that part of it. Would you do you guys feel the same way? It might just be dinner, it might be drinks. Yeah, it doesn't have to be sex, right? My birthday times we go out and don't. Birthday dinners. It doesn't result in plainness. So this wasn't the original plan for Brittany and I. Brittany, what was our original plan in this lifestyle? No, I think honestly, even from the get-go, and I remember one episode we did on two plus two, I was that one and done because I was more afraid of, you know, develop the developing those relationships. And I mean, I've always said, in a way, I feel like the lifestyle is playing with fire, but it also too, or this friendship has taught me that you can have both and you can stay connected, you know. And at the same time, um, Celine and I are always checking in with each other. And if something ever happens, then it's like, okay, you pull back, and I mean, it just is what it is. But enjoying this and enjoying the friendship, enjoying the connection is one of my favorite things now. And you guys mentioned something earlier, just just like the other day. You talked about a girl code. I don't know about you, Stone. I didn't know what a girl code was. You guys want to explain that real quick? Brittany, please do go. Brittany, okay. We discussed this the other day. I never knew about this. Did you know about this, Stone? I've been aware of it, yeah. Because of the way we got into lifestyle, I was probably more aware of it because of how we got in. Go ahead. Yeah. No. And you do know, Brad, I think we talk about these things a lot where for me, right, and talking through with Selene as well, uh, women have to find a connection. And it's most important that women find a connection first, I think. And it's treating the woman the other woman with respect, similar to what you talk about. Like you're not just gonna go up to a man and be like, Hey, I want to fuck your wife right now, right? Um, that you kind of have to build that connection first with a man before you just tell him, like, hey, I want to fuck your wife. So, similar to a woman's perspective, if you just go up to my husband and you ignore me and don't realize that he has a wife, that's a broken girl call girl code. There is a respect level that I feel like you should give to women. Now, I've made the mistake before and I've done it. Um, and I actually apologized to the woman where I was like, You're a hundred percent right. What did you do? I know what you did. I started making out and grabbing the husband's cock, and yeah, it wasn't right. In the pool of desire. Oh, she got a you got a snappy look. Well, no, and she laid into me and she was a hundred percent right. And I I turned to her and I said, a thousand percent, you're right. I apologize, I made a mistake. Well, that's why I wonder is that where the evolution of the girl code started, or was this from the beginning for you? No, I think so. I had known it prior. I hadn't really embraced it a hundred percent. Um, but I knew, and then when I did it, and when she lashed out at me, rightfully so, I was like, you're fucking right. Yeah. So yeah. So we are friends with benefits. Is this a preference for everybody? Because I mean, are we in agreement here? Because I think that we do we kind of talked through this already, but everybody we're friends with benefits. Oh, yeah. And we continue, and we continue to have that's what everyone says they want. And we have it. It's great. And we do, so much fun together. DTF play partners aren't as fun for me as connected partners. You know, I've talked about this before, unless we're maybe we're in an orgy, right? That's kind of different because that's like there's that's a whole different dynamic, and we'll talk about orgies another time. But how about you guys? Are is that the same goes for you as well, you think? Yes, it does for me. Yeah, Stone? Uh we we've enjoyed both dynamics. Yeah, I think you can have a preference, but sometimes they're they've both been sexy and both been fun, and um, so I don't know. It just plays out how it plays out, right? Yeah, yeah. I think overall my preference is to have friends with benefits, exactly what we're doing. Yeah. So I mean I I think I know the answer to this question, but I still want to throw it out because I wrote it down. I said, You two are the couple that we've played with the most, right? And so I said, What's the draw to each other? It's physical, of course, right? But what else? Brittany, I want you to go first on this, if you can think of it. Well, first off, right, Celine and I have an amazing connection. We uh openly will talk. So if there's ever something that's out of bounds, I have no doubt Celine would tell me and vice versa. Um, but also too, just understanding your and Stone's relationship too. I would imagine something the same where like if something untoward happened, it would just come up between the two of you. So I think there's an honesty element where that allows for more exploration. And with exploration, like you don't if you're having the DTF, right? So it's a kind of a one and done, you don't get to explore different moves, different positions, different experiences, right? Um, that I think we get to explore because now we have a more open, honest relationship. What about you two? What do you guys think? So everything Britney said, but for me, also knowing that both of our marriages are so strong and that we Stone and I love and adore each other. And you and Brad By the way, it's so cute watching you guys. And I I know you guys said the same thing last night where you're like, it's so fun watching. It's just it's fun watching that love exchange. Yes, yes. So that is really big for me, you know, watching the four of us be with each other, and that's a big turn on for me, and it makes me feel good. Wait a second. Did you just say love? Yes, I love you. Okay. I love these guys too. Okay. Just curious. Use the L word. We love you too. We love you too. All right. We need to talk about that. Because I know you have some listeners wondering what the hell they're like, they just threw out the love word. Can't believe that. We have deep feelings for you guys, but it's it's all in the proper context. Yeah. It's all categorize exactly where it's all supposed to be. It's just amazing friends. We happen to fuck each other because you know why? Fucking your friends is fun. So why not? Nobody's gonna pay for every time he uses Stone. I got no money for you, my friend. So, Brittany, what was it about Stone? You fucked guys I give him like him in the past? Uh not quite. Really? No. So what is Stone's his own breed? Yeah. Stone's a stallion. He is a stallion. Yeah. So he's just a sexy motherfucker that is like I think I called him Zeus the other night. You did? I did. How'd that make me blush? Okay. No, Stone is super sexy, but he's also attentive, right? He wants to he wants to make a woman feel good. He knows what to say. He's very complimented. Yeah. That's the way I look at it. Celine, what about me? You made me wait a year. And I want you to explain yourself. I think it was a year and a half, actually, is what we calculated the other night. Wow. Wow. That is a long time. That is a long time. It was worth the wait. It was worth the wait. But I have to say, we met you guys for dinner and we got in the car. I told Stone um after we went to dinner, we got in the car, and I said, I am ready and wanting to fuck him. And we both just kind of laughed because that was the first time I had ever said that. Which I find interesting, right? Because you were not into men. And I remember us having this conversation where you're like, look, I do enjoy women or women, but I'm not necessarily into another cock. So what changed? So, you know, before I met Stone, I had only been with my high school sweetheart. And Stone was the second man that I had ever been intimate with. So, you know, here we are, you know, married 29 years, together, 30-something years. And it was really hard for me to wrap my brain around sleeping with another man. And I had never had to separate sex meaning love and sex feeling good and just being sex. Play. And it took me over a year to get into that mindset and be comfortable with it. And because we had such a close friendship and I was so comfortable and I felt safe, um, I was able to allow myself to go there. And so it was worth the wait because I was worth the wait. You are amazing, Brad. Was I your second or third penis? Fourth. I was your fourth penis? Maybe fifth. No fourth. I was a fourth, but I was your first regular size. You are my first great size. First uncircumcised. Uncircumcised. Right? Yes. What do you think about that? Yeah, that's a good question. You know, I really don't think it's much different at all, really. You know, and Brad has taught me how to maneuver it and you have to. I'm a good teacher. So you are a good teacher. I'll take that. Yeah. So yeah. I like playing with your uncircumcised penis. It's fun. Now everybody knows we have an uncircumcised penis. I mean, they would know. Oh, we're gonna hide it until the very last minute where the zipper opens and they're like, oh, damn. No, you tell them no. I know. So, although the other night I did tell a woman, I was like, Oh yeah, by the way, Brad's uncircumcised. She's like, Oh, okay. She was a very tenured vampire, so I figured she's had one or two in her pretty much before. Um okay, so going back to it, so you get in the car and you tell Stone, Hey, I want to fuck Brad. Did you ever want to fuck me? No, you had been with women before, so Yeah. So I I've uh from our start in the lifestyle, I never wanted to allow myself to get ahead of her because it's so easy as a man think about being in the lifestyle and do we do I really have access to this all these women? And no, I don't. So it's it's had to kind of put my excitement in check and realize it's really all about Celine. It's it's about her. She leads this thing. Women, women run the lifestyle, we say. And um that's definitely true for us. So I don't allow myself to get ahead of her. So prior to her being ready, no, I didn't allow myself to really go there until she gave the green light. Then I was like, oh yeah, this is gonna be fun. I always say, I always say that it's wise. Go go as fast as the most conservative partner. For sure. And I think you and I think most of the time the females are more conservative. And because you guys wouldn't literally fuck anybody for the experience. Not anybody, but you would fuck for the experience. I guess you know, our horny is horniness is a little different, I guess, right? And we're more physical looking at the woman. I'm like, holy shit, nice hot woman. I want that, you know, and haven't met her, but where you ladies are, you're like, let me talk to her, let me talk to him, and let's make sure he smells good and you know, he's got good stuff. In the wrong way, but I think men and women just think differently, right? To your point, like very much more physical. So the reason why I ask is you had brought up to Brad a while ago, like, does Britney is she interested in me? Well, I was kind of going at Celine's pace too. So I was like conservative. Yeah. I was like, when she's ready, then I'll open my mind to it. Right. Whereas like I'm not going to let myself enter into that until I know that we're ready to go. No, but you're always hot. That was the one thing though, where you I think Stone for and by the way, I remember that same thing. Stone actually texted me, he goes, This is the first time she's ever said that. That she's like, next time we see them, she's gonna jump his bones, you know. And I was like, Oh, that's pretty hot. Was that the night that we made out in the parking lot, by the way? Nope. Yeah, that was it in Lakeside. Okay. Okay, then oh, there was another night we made out in the parking lot in yeah, in the valley. Yes. Yeah, no, there were two other friends that had night. It wasn't that night. I said that. Gotcha. I remember the night. Okay. Yeah. So I mean that's that's the thing that I um I go back to, and man, it has it has been quite a journey for us. Would you not agree? We're having a great time. This weekend's been sexy. There are fucking places. Well, not even just this weekend, but let's think about all the time that we've traveled together, right? Where we've we've created orgies together. Um, we've I mean, just I remember one of the Bliss Cruises, you Came up and you're like, okay, so orgy in your room tonight? And we're like, with who? And you're like, it doesn't matter. We've got you. And we were just like, cool. I guess we're doing an orgy in our room. We were just like marching. Marching to the room. We're like, but we just trusted you guys. We were like, we know that I mean they wouldn't set us up with anybody that didn't work. And it was hot. Between you two and us too, we're able to put some sexy people together and have some fun. And we do like creating orgy group play sessions together. That's been uh very we need to dive into how we do that. Yeah. Yeah. So do you guys think that this is just a natural progression of lifestyle friends, or are we just different? I think we're unique because of how our relationship started. I don't think most lifestyle relationships start with a year and a half of friendship development. Yeah. Um, so I think we're unique in that way. I also think that we're unique and we're kind of in the same like same mindsets of where we're at in life. Um, what we can do, what we can't do, and understanding each other, right? So what I mean by that is some people still have kids at home and they're they struggle to meet up when you can. We're a little more flexible, the four of us, right? But we also understand each other has lives and other things, and we're not attached to that. Well, clearly the sizzle has not fizzled. So, how do we keep things spicy and the desire to keep wanting to see each other? Oh, let me take this. Let me take this because every time we play, it just gets a little bit hot or it gets a little bit better. We we're learning each other, we're more comfortable with each other, everybody's relaxing more, there's more orgasms. We're just having more and more fun. And um was it was it last night? Um, I think between you and Britney, you're like, hey, let's try slow and sensual tonight. So we just, you know, because of our friendship and the number of times we've played, we're able to kind of change things up. And just this last time, you kind of encouraged me to do more slow and sensual and slow things down and maybe not But then of course I'm like, yeah, fuck me, it's down. Come on, you know, I go. We did we switched up the tempo, we slowed things down, we did more touching and pl and caressing and just kind of working into it and uh and then being slow and sensual, which la you know, two-hour play sessions. So the fact that we're just able to try new things and be comfortable, do comfortable, explore a little bit together and just have a good time, and allowing us to do that, right? Because I don't think so. Going back to the connection or the trust, I don't think people would open up to that where it's like, all right, let's try something different. But if you're a one and done, you can't try um those different things. And if you're not comfortable to be like, okay, let's venture into this different style of a play, that opens up other elements, right? And that's what we're getting to, we're getting to a point of comfort. Oh, yeah. And now I know Stone is learning Britney's body. I'm learning Celine's body. And that's kind of a different thing for me. Because I haven't, I mean, the only person that I've ever really I pay that close attention is to Britney. But now, you know, I'm I'm learning that I'm like, I want to know what Celine likes, and I know certain things that she does, and I know where to touch her, which is getting which is g it which is progressing into this, is not, you know, it's not a polyamorous thing, but we're more than just, you know, just eh, we fuck every once in a while. We're we're really so the question I have, we said this earlier, I want you guys to answer this. Do we have feelings for each other? Yes, yeah, absolutely. Yeah, yeah, but it's not in that way, they're all in the proper context, they're all exactly where everybody, I'll say it for the third time, that everybody in the lifestyle says that's what they want. They want friends with benefits, they want to have they want to meet people and get to know people and and develop friendships like we have. So we we we're we are the we epitomize what those people say they're looking for. And I said that because I imagine we have listeners that are thinking that right now, right? Exactly. They think, oh, you guys, you make the close friends, you spend time, you plan weekends together, vacations together. We've not only become friends, but we uh then are physically attractive, we enjoy each other's company outside of sex. Is that what you were gonna say, Celine? No, I was actually gonna say, um, yes, everybody's afraid of the L word. And a lot of people don't want to have this close of a connection with another couple because they're afraid that they will form feelings for the other person. But the feelings and the love that we feel for you guys, that I think we all four of us feel, is is you you don't know until you know and you realize, yeah, we do love them, but in a friendship type of way. None of us ever want to travel alone with the other person, none of us ever want to be in another room. We always want to be together. 99% of the time we're all touching. The four of us somehow are touching somehow throughout our play sessions. And, you know, I never sit here and think, oh, I wish I could have Brad to myself so I could have intimate moments. You know, I don't think any of us have ever felt that. And, you know, it's had you would you ask me this question a year or two ago, I would tell you, yeah, no, I don't think I would use the love word. But now, yeah, it's a love, you know, like you love a family member or a friend that you've been friends with forever. That's that's the love that we all feel. Well, we have a real friendship. We we don't just connect over sex. We we discuss business, right? We we we chat, you know, you and you and me, Brad, we chat on a regular basis, checking in on each other, whether it's all of us, yeah. Exercise and fitness, nutrition, uh general health, how you doing, checking in, um, business. Learning how to use stupid AI. Yeah. You teach me so well on it. Thank you for actually getting him over the hump because I tried for years. And now now look at him, he's moving full at life speed. Friends help each other grow, you know, and I think that's where where I'm getting with this type of thing. So um, the last episode, Britney and I talked about this couple uh that are very tenured vampires, 11 years in the lifestyle, and they seem to have these more exclusive friend groups. It's huge, you know. And are we heading to a coven like that? I think because we're merging some of our friends, and now we're starting to talk about well, we need to go on a trip together and add these two people. We did that to Costa Rica. Remember that? You guys first time there this this past January. Yeah. And you know, you met some people, some brand new people. Well, and you guys are a staple in that, right? So it's the three couples, I think, are the staple, right? I do think you're right, and we've actually been called out for this, but I wanna I wanna kind of give a little more flavor around it. So, yes, I think we have somewhat of a coven, and I don't think there's anything wrong with that, where it's like we know what each other wants. If we meet a sexy couple, we're like, hey, let's do introductions and let's bring them in because fucking more friends is fun, right? Um on our next episode. But at the other end, it doesn't mean that I would be upset if you guys went and did something or vice versa. We look at it and go, cool, tell us if they're sexy enough to bring back later on. Like you go experience the thing. So it's not I don't think it is a an exclusive coven where we're in that poly aspect where it's like, okay, you've got a click. Because I remember somebody saying you guys are part of a clique. That's not the case. We love our friends and we love introducing, and if we find good connections that meet that friendship, great. But at the same time, all of us are still open to exploring and bringing others together that when we vacation together, we generally don't play unless it's us bringing a group of people together for group play. So we're not like on vacation, just you know, we're not like expectations. Yeah, we're definitely out exploring, expanding the coven. Well, and I think the expectation is, and don't get me wrong, or don't take this the wrong way, but it's more like you guys go experience, we're gonna go experience because we know we we're gonna find each other eventually. We'll have you up here at the mountain home. Exactly. Celine's already had me. She wants something different. That's what it is. Is that right, Celine? I mean there's nothing wrong with that. No, she's exploring for all of us. And personally, that's what I want though. I do, I do want to, you know, I do want to expand our friend group because I again I think if it's a it's an easier thing. It's that stupid dating that just, you know, I just I'm over that part of it. I think I'm too far into this. And hearing about how the future, you know, going back to these vampires, this they're like they're 11 years in, and it's like it seems they invited us. We we waited 18 months to to actually play with these guys, kept connected, and then we hear all their stories. They're not too far off. Brittany and I just greeted a little bit about this, but they're not too far off of what we're currently doing now, but it in a big broader scale, you know, and you've got other people that are let's say in four years, right? We're gonna both all be eight, nine, ten years into this lifestyle, and we're gonna know some things, and then we're gonna be like, okay, now let's let's try to find maybe one or two more couples to kind of pull into what we call the coven, right, and all that stuff. I think it's gonna be a lot of fun. Would you not agree? I super excited about our future. Very exciting, very excited about that. So, um, Stone and Selene. What I want to know is what is the plan for you guys next? What do you guys, what is your next goal into this lifestyle? Well, this weekend was supposed to be group play. We were supposed to have two other couples here, wind up just being the four of us. It was supposed to be eight of us. We're gonna next weekend we've got some our sexy Colorado friends coming in. We're all gonna hang out together, have a nice weekend after that. Um, I'm gigging on the rim all summer, so we're pretty much committed to the north country of Arizona. We might host some some sexy weekends with you guys, um, other couples, and um, but mostly we're gonna be sticking around northern Arizona, I think, until the fall, Caliente, I think in the fall. That's fun. Yeah. But I'm I'm also thinking about like, is there anything more you guys want to explore like sexually? No, you're fine. I uh because I wanted to get to that part of it too. So now that we know that, but do you guys have anything more you want to explore sexually? Right? So you guys have had threesomes, you guys have had orgies. Is there anything left for you guys to do that you guys have been talking about and haven't done yet? So Stone's always asking me, you know, we have a threesome, but it's always with another woman. And he's asked me before, would I ever be interested in having a threesome with another man? And of course, my first thought was no. But as we are progressing through the lifestyle, it has entered my mind that that would be fun and hot. You know, we discussed it doing it this weekend with Brad while Sydney um Brittany records. And you're gonna make some video out of us. We're gonna shoot our own little porn. Let's do it. Yeah, but I think that'd be hot. Yeah. But I'm not um I don't know if I'm ready to do it with somebody that I'm not comfortable with. Sure. So it's not it's not like uh just hey, let's get a random guy to do this because i it could be the other way around, but no, it's gotta be somebody that's comfortable for you. About us, Brittany. What are we exploring next? People, things, yeah, fantasy. I mean, that's the thing. When I mean, we even kind of did that this weekend where you have not had a threesome with two females, and um we got to experience that for a few minutes whistleing, and then Stone was recording, and I know that was one thing that you really enjoyed. I don't know. For us, that's a share more about that. That was hot. Why not? Tell us from your perspective. Okay, tell us from your perspective. What'd you see? Yeah. Well, uh, yeah, um, because I I kind of witnessed it coming together and I raced for the phone. I just did you intentionally back off though. I had wondered about that. I think I was just coming into the room late. I think you guys had just kind of started, and and that's that's how you were initiating things, and I think I was fucking doing this or doing that, and I came into it a little bit late, but what I came into and what I saw was sexy. So I'll I'll I'll stop you right there because what happened was the two girls were on the bed. And I had Britney, Brittany was on on top of Celine. Celine was on her back and they were just kissing, essentially making out, touching and stuff, and then I had Britney's ass was up in the air, and I'm like, what should I be doing here? You know, and you weren't in the room just yet, so I just kind of jumped on top of that. It wasn't like an organized, hey, let's let's make sure we do a threesome here and we'll do a you know, just kind of because you had described this very much this scene with you and your unicorn, yeah, and you guys said it was so freaking hot. So I was like, Well, this almost seems like that kind of opportunity. So I jumped in. Yeah, picture is Celine's on her back on the bed, I'm on top of Celine, and then Brad jumps on top of me from behind, right? And and I I'd never shared with you, but I actually kind of had this uh wish for you. I want I wanted you to have this experience. So to walk in the room and see it that it kind of came together naturally with without any uh just discussion prior on my part was pretty cool and it was sexy. The lighting in the room was sexy, the music, and and the three of you. So I was in a race to find a camera. Yeah, I mean that was that was artistic the way you did that too. And I just kind of walked around and captured what was happening. It was hot. It was fucking hot. So you're you're on your knees, you're fucking Brittany, who is on top of Celine. Kind of grinding my crotch against her crotch. You're you're fucking Brittany, and Celine is coming. And Celine wasn't even necessarily penetrated, it was just that sensual touch. Was it clit on clit? Would you guys say it was kind of the rub of the clit's neck? It's quite a scissor situation, but it was a clit on clit. Yeah, and then the energy, too. My cock was inside of Britney on this, and we were thrusting. And that, I think the whole thing in general is what made everybody super I wish we all orgasmed at the same time. That would have been fucking crazy. That would have been hot. I was just happy to be there. I'm just walking around capturing it on video, and we have it. Um, it's a great record. It's hot. Okay, so let's go back to the male, female, male. So is this a um stone want or is this a stone wants for Celine? What's what's the driver? Or Celine wants. Well, I just uh I don't know. Well, why don't you take this, Celine? So Stone brought it up, and we've talked about it several times, and he's never said, you know, I I want you to do that. He's always just brought it up, we've discussed it, and he's kind of left it up to me to either fantasize it, fantasize about it, or just not think about it at all. And, you know, I had a dream, I've dreamt about it, and then I've catch myself thinking about it, and I think if I came across a really hot man, it'd be hot. Yeah. Does Stone have to be a part of that threesome? I would like him to, yes. Yeah, I think so. I just want her to know that I'm open to her exploring her sexuality to whatever direct whatever direction that needs to go. And I just want to keep letting her know that I'm open-minded to a multitude of things. Yeah. So I see, I think you asked earlier, do we have anything left on her list? I I don't have anything on my sexual bucket list. I feel like I've already been able to live through the case. I could do this the rest of the way myself. I agree with you on that. Um but but I do want Celine to know that I'm listening to that beautiful wind. I know. It's amazing. It's a gorgeous breeze out here, guys. I offer that or suggest that as a way of just communicating that I want you to have as much fun in this lifestyle as possible. So if there's other things you want to do and explore, we can have that discussion. Don't ever feel like anything's off off limits. So I remember one of our might have been our tenth play session, I can't even remember at this point. But we were here, right? And I had actually taken, I think, Brad in my mouth, and then Stone was fucking me. And at a certain point, I was like, okay, Celine, it's your turn. You're like, oh well, wait. I was like, no, trust me. Um and then you got in there and you're like, wow, I didn't expect that. That's right. Yeah, that's right. I remember that now. Yeah. I think it's how I mean, yeah. It's hot, it's hot having two men. So well, I have that level of compersion for Britney too. So and someone's asked me that because does Britney want two males? And I'm like, sure. Would it be me and one other guy? I'm open to that. But if she wanted two guys or she was because she well, so hold on one quick second. We're going back to Cocktoberfest. And I have this, you you've actually been a part of two guys dominating. And Stone's been a part of it at least twice because I think it also happened on one of our orgies in the blitzcrews, too. With the same guy, sexy canadians. Yes, exactly. Our sexy Canadians, yeah. There's something about like the sexy Canadian and Stone fucking me, and you're not there. But I'm kind of touching myself right now under the table because I remember how hot that was. Yes. That was super sexy. You weren't so I when you were about to ask that question, would I ever I was like, no, I want you there. But you're right. I've been in two sessions now where it wasn't you, but I had Stone and our sexy Canadian friend um on either side. Now you were right next to me fucking somebody else, but yeah, yeah. Well, it was it was again, it was kind of a big orgy situation, but I don't know where there was there was another a female was missing, so the two boys did what they did and they took care of anybody. So we'll wrap this up here. I just have a couple questions for you guys. Uh, one plan I hope that we can all commit to going forward here is that you guys will be regular guests on the sexy swinging vampires. Yes. You guys want to do this again? I'd love to do that. You guys have some fun? Oh, yeah. Did you have some fun with this as well? I love these guys. You want them to come back? I want them to come. All right, guys. Any final thoughts on this? I think your listeners need to, again, let's bring them back to the context of our discussion today on the back porch, this beautiful mountain home on a beautiful mountain day. Mid-70s today. Uh, what are we doing next? We're about to transition into our sexy afternoon, are we not? We are. We are. We're gonna have a couple of drinks here. I see something getting passed around the table. This is just like a Joe Rogan show, you know. Relax. And you guys enjoy that. I'm okay with that. Sexy moments. All right, guys. Well, thank you again for joining us here on the sexy swinging vampires. And I want all of our listeners, again, hit the fan mail button, leave a voicemail, or shoot us a text here. Please rate this podcast. It's super easy. You could be anonymous, actually, on uh the Apple podcast. So don't think you can change it. And if you want Stone and Selene to come back more, rate us more. And tell us about it. And then even on Spotify, you can actually hit the rating. We can't even see, or you can't even see who rates you. Just know somebody did rate you on that. Correct, Brittany? I think so, yeah. Thanks again, guys. We'll catch you next time. Bye.