Ep 4: The Questions Everyone Asks About Ballet

In this episode, Joey and Cam answer the questions everyone asks about ballet, because even Cam’s own family still has no idea what he does for work.

We also bring back your favourite segment Can Joey Read a Room or Not, plus a few social dilemmas Cam’s been dealing with.

Transcript

SPEAKER_00 0:00

Oh my god. Sorry. We had to stop. I had to stop recording because that was the worst story.

SPEAKER_02 0:20

Cameron. No, dude, I'm sorry.

SPEAKER_00 0:22

No, I think I'm out.

SPEAKER_02 0:23

No, you can't. We're three up. Episode three. We're finishing it at that. Yeah, that's it. It's because your mum said six. If she said fifty, I reckon episode 25 would be struggling a little bit.

SPEAKER_00 0:35

But because we're just struggling at four.

SPEAKER_02 0:38

Nah. Nah we're good. We're good. I'm on the flow.

SPEAKER_00 0:42

Cam's Cam's struggling. Nah. Okay. So before you rudely interrupted me, I was talking about my weekend. Yeah. I don't know why I'm laughing at you now. No, it's not. Dang, dude. It's good. It's good. Sorry. Um, so I was talking about my weekend. Yeah. And it was my cousin's engagement, and it was such a lovely day. But I was seeing my extended family. Yep. And they, you know, they ask me questions about ballet, right? And they they genuinely don't know what I do. So I was like, this would be great idea for episode four. Yeah. Like let's let's inform people, my family, that what what we do for work. True. Yeah, that's true. And it's like some of the most like basic questions that I just don't think people even answer or like talk about. No. Okay. Anyway, the first one. What do you actually do all day, like hour by hour?

SPEAKER_02 1:29

Oh, I mean, I don't know about you, but I live, breathe ballet.

SPEAKER_00 1:33

I'm like, God, you're such an idiot. We're trying to have a heart to heart and your eyes roll back. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:41

I love ballet. Ballet. I mean, well, who isn't doing ballet all day? Yeah. Like, come on, guys. Like, yeah, the big leagues over here.

SPEAKER_00 1:49

No, but like genuinely. So I I thought we'd answer these questions because people don't know. Um you can go to show. Oh, okay. So well, at the moment, we're in shows, right? That's what I was saying to them. I was like, we're in shows at the moment. So, you know, I wake up pretty early because I've got to travel. And then I also go to the gym of the morning before class. So at the moment, like classes at 11, go to the gym by 9.30 till 10.30, walk to work, and then class, then rehearsals till about three, and then we have a bit of a break, and then show is like we get ready at six o'clock. Yeah. Um, and that's basically from six to ten. What time's a show start? 7 30, right? I love that you don't know that. I mean, yeah, bar bar bar starts at what, 6 30?

SPEAKER_02 2:33

Yeah. Yeah. So you're like barely getting ready at 7, not even. Yeah, look. You're rushing to stage still getting changed.

SPEAKER_00 2:40

Always, yeah. I'm notorious for being late.

SPEAKER_02 2:42

Yeah, it's bad.

SPEAKER_00 2:43

I don't know what it is. I think actually nuts. Like, I hate being late. Yeah, I mean, it got brought up in my like mid-year. Oh, really? Boss. Yeah. Yeah. In a really funny way. He goes, You're always late. Like, is everything all right? And I was like, Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 2:57

It's just how I roll. I'm cool, I can't.

SPEAKER_00 2:58

Yeah, but I was like, uh, I think it helps me because it kind of gets me out of my head in a weird way. Yeah. Because I rush up onto stage, curtain goes up, and I feel like I've been plunked into the scene rather than like warming up and psyching myself out. Yeah. I think I deliberately do that. Yeah, it's been years of me just rushing.

SPEAKER_02 3:18

Yeah. Oh, I've never honestly even thought about it like that. Yeah, I mean, that's good. So you're in shows. If we're not in shows, so rehearsal seasons, we start at 10 30 in the morning, then uh class go all the way till 2 30. Yeah, that's right. 2 30. 2 30, and then we start back at 3 45 and then 3 45 till 6 30. Yeah. And then we're we're done basically.

SPEAKER_00 3:41

Anyway, moving on. Next one. Next one. Are you in pain all the time or do you just get used to it?

SPEAKER_02 3:46

You think about it sometimes, you go pain free. Must be nice. Must be nice. But I mean, like, it's not that bad. Like, it's fine. You have your days and stuff where it's sometimes it's like, oh, something's a bit sore, but yeah. No, it's so fine.

SPEAKER_00 4:00

Yeah, I mean, as also like I've noticed as I'm getting older, the pain is starting to creep in a little bit. Yeah. That's why I'm going to the gym a lot more.

SPEAKER_02 4:08

Same thing, like footy players and everything, they always, you know, got tape around their calves and their knees and shoulders and stuff. So it's just it's just part of the job.

SPEAKER_00 4:17

It's part of the job. It'd be crazy not to be in a bit of pain. Like, have you seen us like launch ourselves into the sky? The sky. What am I talking about? Have you seen us like launch?

SPEAKER_01 4:24

Why are you jumping? Geez. Oh, yeah, yeah. He jumping high.

SPEAKER_00 4:32

He wishes. Yeah, I do. Yeah. The things that we do on the stage are just kind of crazy. So like it's we're bound to get injured, bound to be in a bit of discomfort. Yeah. So yeah. That's it.

SPEAKER_02 4:41

All right. Um, enough about that. It's uh, you know, pain. What about what about the next question?

SPEAKER_00 4:50

What? Are you okay? Yeah, I was trying to like suck at segue.

SPEAKER_02 4:54

Dude, I was but no, because I was like trying to transition it really well. But you know, hey dude, let's move on to the cut me off. Enough about that stupid injury stuff.

SPEAKER_00 5:06

Okay. You looked at me like, you right? Jesus, I hate this guy. What's the culture like inside a ballet company? What surprised you when you first joined? Oh. I've got one. Yeah, yeah, go on. Dude, ballet dancers know how to party. I surprised me when I joined the company. I was like, ah, they're ballet dancers, like you know what I mean? Yeah. And we we hit the clubs, and I was like, oh my god, these guys actually do know how to just let loose and just have a good time. Like that really surprised me. I thought everyone would be like so intense all the time. Yeah, and then I mean, we're all in our 20s, like we all want to, you know, have some fun. So, like on a weekend, you know, I was like, Oh, this is sick. Yeah, true. That was a really good shock. I loved that.

SPEAKER_02 5:51

Yeah, especially when you're younger too. Yeah, I was like, Oh, we can have fun, yeah, yeah. Not doing that much either, like during shows, just cool work, like just chilling. Yeah, yeah. I think um the Aussie culture, like I feel like our change room and stuff. We had a banter, the banter, yeah, back room banter. So good, yeah, yeah. So good. I love that. That's the one thing I like the most. Yeah, even though I can push it sometimes and everyone's like, oh, okay, shut up, Joey.

SPEAKER_00 6:16

Yeah, it's like on a double show day on a Wednesday, like middle of the week, Joey comes in. Hey guys, like I'm like, dude, just let it let it rest for a rest. Yeah, just for a minute. Yeah, it's good. You're always on yeah, you gotta perp up the crowd, you know. Yeah, um, yeah, loved it. Do you ever completely mess up on stage? And what happens if you do? Oh, dude. I all the time. I all the time. I love it. Do you know what you do? Start a podcast.

SPEAKER_02 6:43

Start a podcast, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 6:45

Talk about the mess ups. Yeah, that's it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 6:51

Oh, dude. Nah. I'm really all the time. All the time. I love it though. That's like for me, I I love it when there's always something different happening on stage. Like when I'm doing like a a character role or something like what I'm doing now, I I I like to not have something set. Like, obviously, yes, we have our set things that we have to do, but like the choreography. Choreography, yes. But like in the little acting bits and little things like that, just way I look at people differently and use my arms.

SPEAKER_00 7:21

Yeah, you preach it to the choir, mate. Oh, dude. I am the exact same. I one, I'm a big believer in not replicating what I'm doing every show. One, I like to find something different every show, otherwise, it gets too stagnant and I get bored. Yeah, I'm not gonna do the same show. I'm not a robot. Yeah, I think that's really good. I mean, that's good advice too, I guess.

SPEAKER_02 7:39

Yeah, that is good.

SPEAKER_00 7:40

Yeah, it makes things interesting. Wow, changing it up, that's so much fun. And when mess-ups happen, mind you, I've had a few like bad ones. It gets into your head. Oh they suck, they really do suck. They do, I know. But one, they become great stories later on. Yeah, and two, like you laugh about it and you go, Oh, like, all right, like that happened. I'm still alive, like it's okay. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. I mean, that's my outlook on it. Yeah, plus I don't know, like in the moment it feels quite big, but also the audience love it. Yeah, I feel like they love it if you kind of do stack, they go, Oh, he's human. Fat stack, and then you get up and then yeah, an extra big applause. Oh we just start stacking it on stage now just for a bigger applause. Maybe I should stack them more than not gonna for me at all. Oh, poor Joey. Oh, yeah, totally. We'll do the next one. Do you feel like you missed out on a normal life? What what is a normal life? Yeah. Oh, well put, bud. Yeah. Oh, come on. Oh, yeah. Oh yeah, what is a normal life? You know what I mean? Like, that's well said. Nice done. Answered. Killed it. Um, why do you keep doing this if it's this hard? Bro, you can't beat the feeling out there on stage, eh?

SPEAKER_02 8:58

It's pretty good. It's pretty good. It's pretty good. It's pretty good. I love it. I mean, that's what I like about it. Like, oh, that's nice. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 9:04

Dance and ballets of my life. Life. Um did you ever have one of those posters above your bed? Ballet? No. You did, didn't you? I did not. Oh live, laugh, love, dance. Ew. Do you know where my mum got me though? What? When I first moved into my apartment. Oh, dude, it's bad. She got me coasters. Yeah. And it's a dance like nobody's watching. And I was like, I was like, come on. Oh, dude, just stop it. It's coasters. Yeah. I was like, stop my coffee on that. I'm gonna have friends over off them a drink, and you're gonna put that in. Yeah. And I got rid of them. Oh, sorry, mum. Nah, it's all good. Um, but I you know, I think we keep doing this because we do, we do have to love it. Um, but also, let's be real, it is a pretty sick job. It's hard, yes, we say that a lot, but it is a pretty cool job. Yeah, like this. Um, I don't think I could pinpoint as to why. There's a bunch of reasons, I guess.

SPEAKER_02 9:58

Yeah, well, we're entertainers. Like, look at us now, we're podcasting now. I feel like we're just born entertainers, bro. Look at us guy. True.

SPEAKER_00 10:05

Yeah, we absolutely are.

SPEAKER_02 10:07

Just born to entertain. Can Joey read a room or not? Was such a good yeah, people loved it. You know, uh, they loved it, yeah, and they're like, Joey's an absolute idiot. Like, and a legend and handsome, strong, ambitious.

SPEAKER_00 10:31

Um, you're thinking of more words, aren't you? Yeah, you didn't. Your brain was ticking hardcore.

SPEAKER_02 10:39

Yeah, I was had the tongue out thinking about them. Oh my god. Anyway, I did some thinking and I was like, all right, well, what other awkward moments have I done where I thought it was hilarious, but also I've known they've been pretty bad, and also I've lost a little bit of sleep over them.

SPEAKER_00 10:55

I don't think you lose sleep, I think you only lose sleep because I point them out. I'm like, dude, you misfired on that heart. I think you're so you're so oblivious. You're like, oh, I thought it was good.

SPEAKER_02 11:04

Yeah, everyone's slapping their knees because they're last now. No one.

SPEAKER_00 11:07

No one left the room. Okay, yeah. So go on. So you want to bring up can Joey read a room?

SPEAKER_02 11:12

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 11:13

So guys, get ready for can Joey read a room or no?

SPEAKER_02 11:18

So you're gonna you're gonna pick from A to D, yeah. Right. And then pick which one, hopefully, that I would have done. Like, hopefully. Okay. Yeah, okay.

SPEAKER_00 11:28

I'll pick what a normal person would have done.

SPEAKER_02 11:30

All right, I'll give you a little bit of backstory on this one, right? Okay. So I was helping my mate Charlton move. He was moving into another apartment and we're going up and down. His dad was there, and I was helping with some other mates. We went up and down about four times. This is the fifth time. It's getting a bit quiet in the elevators, you know. Small talks died off and everything. So we're all just standing there, we're tired. We're about halfway up the elevator, right?

SPEAKER_03 11:53

Okay. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 11:54

Yeah. I turned to Charlton's dad and I ask him this how long have you been Charlton's dad for?

SPEAKER_00 12:05

I thought you were supposed to do A B C D. This is why I do all the segue and I delete the segments because you can't.

SPEAKER_02 12:25

Dude, I wish I filmed that. That would be cute.

SPEAKER_00 12:28

That is so bad.

SPEAKER_02 12:29

That is so bad, but really funny as well.

SPEAKER_00 12:32

Okay, so I the whole oh my god, I'm crying. Yeah, the whole audience knows what you did. Yeah. You actually did say that. I did actually. That's really funny.

SPEAKER_02 12:43

It was just funny because everyone just like looked around and was like. And then his dad turned. He was like, Oh yeah, a long time. Basically, it was just it was just like, what do you think?

SPEAKER_00 12:54

What's he supposed to say to that?

SPEAKER_02 12:56

I don't know. I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 12:57

But God. I think I think. Sorry. Do you think about what people are gonna say after what you said? Oh no. Or do you think about like what you're gonna say before you say it, or you just it just happens? Like it's like it's like a hiccup, it's just involuntary.

SPEAKER_02 13:12

Honestly, I think in my head at that time, I was like, I need to say something, it's really quiet, right? And then obviously, like I I spoke to his dad, but like I felt like I haven't spoken to him enough, so I wanted to get him more involved. Yeah, so break the ice a bit, break the ice, and what's better to art, break the ice and us how to run your sons. I mean, it's kind of brilliant. Wait, yeah, it's great, yeah. Yeah, anyway. Should I just read the ABCs? No, don't worry about it.

SPEAKER_00 13:36

Okay, because I had to read it. Doesn't matter, that's hilarious. Yeah, great. This is what you guys get, it's chaos, especially with me.

SPEAKER_02 13:44

Yeah, this is why I should never leave anything.

SPEAKER_00 13:46

We're not trying to change you. This is great, but yourself. Thanks. Um, thanks.

SPEAKER_02 13:50

Next one, right? It's morning class. Yeah, the ballet teacher stands up from the chair and he says, Good morning to everyone. Yeah, what did I do? A. Did I say hello with everyone just like normal? Did I turn your back to the teacher in protest because I was having a bad morning? C. Did I wait for everyone to finish saying hello, then yell out hello in a different language and then look around to see if anyone saw? D. Did I walk up to the teacher from across the studio to offer him a high five?

SPEAKER_00 14:23

Look, I can see you doing both C and D. The funny thing is, I was in on that class and I know you yelled out in a foreign language hello. Yeah. And it fell so hard on its face.

SPEAKER_02 14:35

It was bad, dude.

SPEAKER_00 14:36

It is bad.

SPEAKER_02 14:38

I think that was the one I was like, oh. I need to have a hard look at myself in the mirror.

SPEAKER_00 14:45

And think of my actions. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 14:49

I need to wake up to a mirror in my face and just go, who am I? You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_00 14:54

At least for the next week.

SPEAKER_02 14:55

And next week, because that was bad, man.

SPEAKER_00 14:58

Yeah, I think that class, I and that class, I just went, hello, as did most people. You were right next to me too.

SPEAKER_02 15:06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 15:07

I think it was hard.

SPEAKER_02 15:09

I was like a leopard, you know, on a on a gazelle. I was just waiting, praying. So everyone said hello, and I was like, my turn to strike. Then I looked around, like, yeah, guys, was that funny? And everyone's just yeah, not it. It was bad. Next one. All right. So I get an email from ballet staff. A dancer just got injured before the show, and I have to go on. Right. Um, and he tells me I have to perform. What do I say? I say, no worries, see you tonight. Thanks for the heads up for B. Yeah. C, with great power comes great responsibility.

SPEAKER_03 15:46

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_02 15:47

D, reply to the whole company and say, Joey's back, baby.

SPEAKER_00 15:55

Again, knowing you you do see N D for these.

SPEAKER_02 16:00

Yeah, I do. Maybe I need to mix it up. I need to put some the crappy ones up on A and B.

SPEAKER_00 16:06

A normal person just thanks, like, thanks for the heads up, no worries. A.

SPEAKER_02 16:10

Yeah. But what did you do? I did, I did C with great power coming.

SPEAKER_00 16:15

Absolute Muppet.

SPEAKER_02 16:16

Great responsibility. Dude, I thought it was. Hashtag Spider-Man. Hashtag Spider-Man. Yeah. Dude, I thought it was hilarious. Because he got injured and he was out for the rest of the thing.

SPEAKER_00 16:25

Did the Ballymaster reply?

SPEAKER_02 16:26

He did. He did. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 16:27

D ha ha ha, or just go thanks, thanks, Joey.

SPEAKER_02 16:30

He he actually said um great response. Oh, really? He loved it. Oh, he loved it. Yeah, loved it.

SPEAKER_00 16:36

Oh, I mean, wow, that's like see, there you go. Sometimes it doesn't land.

SPEAKER_02 16:41

Yeah, sometimes it did land. So I I read this room as in email really well.

SPEAKER_00 16:45

Yeah, you read that email really well. Really well.

SPEAKER_02 16:48

Hell yeah. Shout out dyslexia.

SPEAKER_00 16:54

My dyslexic people here. Yeah. Dude, that was so good. Well done. Thank you. You hosted a segment. Well done. Yeah, did one.

unknown 17:02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 17:03

Woohoo! So this happened the other day. I was walking to a cafe and I opened the door, hold the door open for the this lady. She went in, didn't say anything. Oh no, no. Yeah. Right? So it got me thinking. Right. Okay. A new segment idea. Social dilemmas. Wow, okay, straight to it. Straight to it. You ready? Honking on the horn. More than three seconds? Too long. Damn, yeah. You angry. Yeah. Come on. Can't get any greener. Yeah. Too long, right? Yeah, that's a wild. Got honked the other day, pulled out of my driveway. Yep. I like these are all things that has happened. Pulled out my driveway. Didn't look my fault. Yeah. Look, it was my fault. Okay. But three seconds. Maybe two. Okay. But that's a long time.

SPEAKER_01 18:01

That's uh damn. I'm sure people couldn't know what three seconds is.

SPEAKER_00 18:09

Sorry to listeners there. This is what a horns like. Was that three seconds or not, guys? Yeah, who knows? Like, I'm always a bang.

SPEAKER_02 18:19

Yeah, like a quick bang. Yeah. That's it. Like, dude, come on. Yeah, that's wild. I've done I've done a couple holding down, but on my motorbike. I feel like that's different.

SPEAKER_00 18:28

That's fair. Um, this is another one. Oh is it wrong to take chips off someone else's plate?

SPEAKER_02 18:36

Yes.

SPEAKER_00 18:37

I agree. Oh, dude, stop it, man. No, I I agree. Oh man. If someone takes chips off my plate without asking? Yeah, except if it's Sarah, like girlfriend. Like that's allowed. Oh you're not even a little bit. You're laughing with a lana.

SPEAKER_02 18:53

Sometimes I'm like God, you're vicious. Yeah, sometimes I'm like, look, I've ordered this for myself. I know there's I I don't know there. Yeah. But there's 30 chips or something. Oh, yeah. I know, yeah. I know that those three chips are gonna satisfy me. If I feel like one goes missing, yeah, and I'm still hungry at the end, I'll go, damn. That one chip would have. Have you said that to her? I have. No, you have not. I have, I'm evil. And she loves me, man. She loves this. But like as well, like going off that, you order chips for the table, right? There's just like two or three chips left and no one touches it. Oh mate, I here's another dilemma. Do you eat those chips?

SPEAKER_00 19:33

Or do I just stare at them and like do the classic? Oh, does anyone want the last two chips? Like, dude, I've just come back. I just go get it. I now I get it now. Yeah, dude, I'm past that point. I'm past it too. I I don't know what it is. I don't think you ever reached that point of not being past it. You were just like, I don't care. I've always taken them, haven't I? Yeah, yeah, every time. Yeah. Um, all right, another one. I reckon we might disagree with this. Oh bringing water bottle everywhere. Oh, dude, that's like come on, you ain't that cool. You don't like it? Nah, nah. Okay. I mean, I bring this drink bottle everywhere. Everywhere. Yeah. Actually, yeah, you do. Yeah. We're in Sydney, you've got it. Damn it. Yeah. I mean, you brought yours, no?

SPEAKER_02 20:18

Yeah, but that's my that's my touring one.

SPEAKER_00 20:20

But like, I mean, I mean, taking a drink bottle, like you take it into the car, and then when you go to the grocery store, like grocery store, and you take it to the grocery store. Like, you know those massive drink bottles.

SPEAKER_02 20:31

The Stanley ones. I do. Oh. Alright, so I've got two hands, right? I've got to pick something up. That's I've now got two hands occupied with something. Something I don't know. I dropped something or whatever. I need to pick it up. Social dilemma here. I've got no hands. So I'm like full hiccupping as well.

SPEAKER_00 20:51

I'm like, I need to control myself, Joe. What the hell's going on? Alright. This is this is maybe a bit more targeted at you again. Oh, pick on me. Like, if you wear thongs with like jeans to dinner, you've given up. You're like, I just don't care. Definitely look like anymore.

SPEAKER_02 21:09

Yeah. I mean, I've definitely done that, yes. I have. Really?

SPEAKER_00 21:13

Yeah. Thongs with jeans.

SPEAKER_02 21:15

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 21:16

Um, I think I'm talking about the ones that go in between your big toe and your second toe.

SPEAKER_02 21:20

Yeah, yeah, thongs, yeah. Dude. I thought meant wearing one.

SPEAKER_00 21:23

Like Birkin stocks, I think that bends the rules. That's different. Like sandals, different slides, yeah. Maybe a bit different. But even I think slides are worse.

SPEAKER_02 21:32

You know what? I'll wear jeans and thongs tomorrow just to just to make me so mad.

SPEAKER_00 21:38

See what people say. True. Yeah, we'll see.

SPEAKER_02 21:42

I don't know, but I've definitely done it. I've done it. Jeans and thongs. Like, but I wear thongs. Like going grocery shopping, because I don't have Bergen stocks, I no, I know, I know. That's why I've said I'm not lost hope. Yeah, you've lost the hope because you owe thongs. You don't care what you look like anymore.

SPEAKER_00 21:59

You're like, I've got a lot. Lana, I've got a fiance, don't care. Yeah. Alright, and the last one happened this morning on the train. Oh playing videos allowed in public spaces. Do you think it's bad?

SPEAKER_02 22:11

Yeah, nah, it's annoying.

SPEAKER_00 22:12

It's annoying. It's annoying. I and I also I didn't know so passionate about it until this morning. That's why I wrote I literally just wrote it down. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 22:20

Fresh ink on the paper. Yeah. Dude, nah, nah. I'm not a fan. Not a fan. Yeah. Like keep it to yourself. Have headphones?

SPEAKER_00 22:27

Yeah, if you don't have headphones, you can put it down to like volume two and like just put it in your ears. Yeah, I'm desperate. Yeah, I'm really desperate for this shit. Alright, thanks for listening, guys. There you go. This is our fourth episode. Yeah, we're gonna drop them every Friday. Yeah. And thanks for the positive response on all the apps. So we really appreciate it.

SPEAKER_02 22:50

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SPEAKER_00 22:55

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SPEAKER_02 23:04

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SPEAKER_01 23:24

I know I was trying alright. Three, two, one, gotcha.