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PRIDE
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In this week’s episode, Prima and Pancake are thinking about their pride weekend!
Hosted by The Prima Donald (@theprimadonald) & Pink Pancake (@hausofpancake)
Produced by Luke Martin (AKA Straight Luke) & kind of sort of by Peter Schum
Art by Curtis Brown Photography
Music by Jack Rayner
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SPEAKER_01Wait, wait, wait.
SPEAKER_04Action. We are so back, baby. We can't keep starting off with a horrible song because people are gonna want to listen. DJ cut that. DJ cut that. Okay, thinkers.
SPEAKER_03It's time to put your finger.
SPEAKER_04We are here at You Think, a podcast about two gay guys who certainly are not right now.
SPEAKER_03Honey, we are just not right now, but I am. Oh what I am is the big mum. What I am. Yeah.
SPEAKER_04And I am. Oh, what I am? Yeah, right. It's Pink Pancake and a baby. I'm in face right now. I'm in drag face because I just came from a gig. It is July 1st right now on the day we're recording this. So it's straight pride, and I finally got to celebrate.
SPEAKER_03So it's straight pride, and we finally are getting to celebrate the straight people in our lives. You know, we've had enough of these gay people. Oh, we like to go out. Oh, we like to party. Oh, we like to be out all night. Oh, look, I was at Faceman until the next morning or whatever. Rex, you name it. No, now we celebrating straight pride.
SPEAKER_04Straight pride. Who are you celebrating?
SPEAKER_03America, the straightest man I know.
SPEAKER_04That's true. I'm celebrating my mommy and daddy.
SPEAKER_03Oh.
SPEAKER_01My mommy and daddy.
SPEAKER_03How do you know they're 100% straight? You don't know what they did in college.
SPEAKER_04I well, my dad does like yoga. And my mom has said on numerous accounts that she thinks that Penelope Cruz is attractive.
SPEAKER_03So we might have a bycon in our midst.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, we don't know.
SPEAKER_03Yes. Um, I think my dad was 100% straight, um, but was so.
SPEAKER_04We know for a fact he was 100% straight because he used to look at mature women on Instagram. He like followed an Instagram account called mature ladies. Mature ladies.
SPEAKER_03And one thing they don't tell you when a parent passes is you look through their phone. Well, um you did that by your own choice. Well, I had the phone. You had the phone, yeah. Yeah. And um being away from the mic. I think it's fine. We have good mics. We have good mics. Um, he was definitely straight, is all I will say.
SPEAKER_04Um, so anyway, this is you think, and we have three segments. Our first segment set my bit up people my f our first segment is called You Think. That's where we talk about what we're thinking about. Second segment is Group Think, and that's where we talk about what the world at large is thinking about. And then our third segment is called What Do You Even Think? Think And we'll get to that later. So we're kind of already in it, but what are you thinking about? I mean, we have to recap our episode Pride weekend. Yeah, so we just had an epic Pride weekend together. So dreadful. We did all events together. So we have to go through everything except for Friday. Yeah, except for Friday.
SPEAKER_03So I feel like we didn't do all events together. And you know what? I was just re-listening to our episode from last week. And I was listening to the episode, and we brought up a celebrity, which is Jonathan Groff. Mmm. And he makes an appearance in this week's episode as well. Yeah. So basically, we were talking about Jonathan Groff and that you saw him on the street once and how he was so kind and so nice. Um, I'm at the Mets game, you know? Yeah. And the Mets Pride game. Thank you so much to the Mets for having me there. The Mets always thinks of me and says, We need this man to celebrate Pride Night.
SPEAKER_04And I still don't understand why I had asked the person who booked, who's a friend of ours, and who booked the talent, to arrive to participate in watching the Mets game. Right. And for some reason I wasn't last year I could come, but this year I couldn't.
SPEAKER_03Maybe if our podcast like really blows up. Hopefully.
SPEAKER_04Yeah. So you guys, please send this to a friend or two so I can go to the Mets game next year. I was booked that night. You were booked. I was booked that night. So ultimately I couldn't go.
SPEAKER_03At a dive bar. I was at a luxury suite in the Mets stadium.
SPEAKER_04First of all, if you ever insult Black Cherry like that again. It's a dive bar. It is a dive bar. I guess.
SPEAKER_03But the way you said it, it is the best. It is the best dive bar ever. It's honestly my favorite drag race viewing party. It's was it for drag race?
SPEAKER_04Is that not anymore? Now you just get to see the drag queens race around the bar collecting tips.
SPEAKER_03Honestly, I prefer that. I don't really care for drag race. Sorry. Yeah, you heard it here first on this podcast. I, the Prima Donald, don't watch that show unless I have a friend on it.
SPEAKER_04Or a friend watch party. Or someone's But Well, you're just there, but you're not really watching. Yeah. Yeah. So anyway, Jonathan Gross.
SPEAKER_03Oh, so um, so we're at I'm at the suite. It's like the owner's suite. They have all the everything for pride. They have um everything rainbow, rainbow drinks, rainbow that, full open bar.
SPEAKER_04Rainbow drinks, rainbow that. Yeah, rainbow that. Rainbow bright.
SPEAKER_03They had rainbow face painters, which was incredible because I had actually gotten my glam done for an hour before this event, made it look rainbow, and then there was a face painter there doing it a few minutes. I loved what you got. You got rainbow.
SPEAKER_04I loved it. What are they called? Like you know the stripey things. The stripey things under the eyes that baseball players wear. Yeah. They did that to Donald in Rainbow. I have to say, guess what? What?
SPEAKER_03That was my vision. That was my vision. Wow. I went to get my glam done, and I was like, I'll have anything rainbow. And they're like, okay. And then as they were starting, I was like, wait, I'm going to a sports thing. Can it be that thingy, but make it rainbow? And they were like, Yeah. So they did that, and it looked so cute, inspired so many people. But yeah, they had a face painter there who's doing rainbow designs, and she's she didn't.
SPEAKER_04But either way, it was free. It was, yeah, yeah. Both were free.
SPEAKER_03Just the the time. I mean, money.
SPEAKER_04It's time's money. They probably gave you free champagne. So much free champagne. Yeah, that was words so funny. It was so fun. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03No, it was honestly incredible. Thank you, Blushington, for the glam. Um, so many companies are just really invested in me during this Pride Month. Yeah. So, anyways, we're at the Met Suite. I look around, I see um the Marks family, my babies, Meredith Marks, who officiated our wedding, Seth Marks, our king, Chloe and Brooks Marks, so much fun. Then at some point, I'm sitting um alone talking to strangers. As I do. It's your favorite thing. And these two straight girls, I assume, come up with this guy. And I'm like, who are you? Um, and they're chat, chat, chatting. And this one guy um mentions he has a boyfriend. I was like, Where is your boyfriend? Is he a banker? Is he a banker? Because he said he was at work. Yeah, he's still at work. It's like 10 p.m. Is he a banker? He's like, oh no, he's an actor. And I was like, oh, snooze. And I start looking away, and the girls are like, oh, like what kind of like do we know him? And he's like, his name is Jonathan Groff. And the girls would go, sorry, I don't know him. And I was like, not only do I know him, he was on our podcast last week as a topic.
SPEAKER_04As a topic.
SPEAKER_03So that was really full circle for me.
SPEAKER_04Uh, I'm so jealous of that man. I met him on Saturday and he was really nice. Yeah, and I did put arsenic in his drink.
SPEAKER_03I'm not gonna call him out in case because I did Google it and their relationship doesn't seem that public. But what I will say is this new man is a new friend of mine, and I really like him. He was so cool. He was really nice, really nice. I really enjoyed his presence, um, and his presence is a present. Um, and I really like obsessed. Yeah, I am jealous. New friends are fun. I always try and make a new friend at that event, including like last year I made friends with Amber Ruffin. Now I'm going to her 4th of July. Like, these are the things.
SPEAKER_04Yeah. How was your Friday? My Friday was great. I did a gig with Black Cherry. I had done three Zoom bingos that day. Ooh. And then I did that gig. So I was exhausted. Um, speaking of kind of exhausted. We should be clear, like, why you look like this woman right now. I think I said I had a gig before this. I did my last Pride corporate event. It was a bingo in person. As it is. Yeah. As it is. Um, and I arrived here at 9 p.m. with two full boxes of pizza from this event.
SPEAKER_03Right. And proceeded to eat so much of it. And you arrived with two pizzas just one day after I sent you a historical artifact of Phaedra reading someone down saying, and you needed two medium-sized pizzas so you could ejaculate into a cup. So check that. So it's kind of like crazy. Yeah, it's kind of the read of the century. Yeah. Um, but yeah, so we are recording. It's um currently like 10 p.m., which is one of the most amazing times to record the podcast. You know, we feel rejuvenated after our days. We feel luscious.
SPEAKER_04I don't. I feel absolutely exhausted down, and I can't wait to go to Fire Island tomorrow. Like you're high. I need like a week of rest. Yeah. But I don't know what my hopes and dreams are. But wait, we need to What are your hopes and dreams? My hopes and dreams are I do what I would like some rest and relaxation.
SPEAKER_03You're going to the wrong place.
SPEAKER_04I know. Um, I would love to have a good time. Like I just want to have fun. You're going to the right place. Girls just want to have fun. I want to have so much fun. I want to dance, dance, dance, I want a party, party, party. I want to lay on the beach, rest.
SPEAKER_03Oh, rest.
SPEAKER_04I have a gig out there, and I hope it's successful. I hope I know all the choreos.
SPEAKER_03How do you measure success?
SPEAKER_04I think you measure your life in love.
SPEAKER_03Right. I think it's But in a drag show, how do you measure success?
SPEAKER_04Um, I think it's a feeling.
SPEAKER_03Huh.
SPEAKER_04Yeah. Huh. Yeah. I actually talked about this kind of in my with my therapist today.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, I'm kind of giving therapists. Yeah. People come to this place I'm giving therapists. Yeah, and like I'm sorry that there's that podcast therapy, but it's like, we're that now.
SPEAKER_04Okay, we're that now.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. Sorry, Jake.
SPEAKER_04How do you measure success in? I mean, I I think it's how fulfilled you feel. Right. Who cares? Who cares? Um what I measure success in is it could be financial, it could be f artistic fulfillment, it could be community. I think community is a big thing for me to measure success. I think those are the three pillars of success.
SPEAKER_03I would take out community. Fuck community.
SPEAKER_04But I to me, I love community.
SPEAKER_03Not that community doesn't pay the bills, honey. Yes, it does. No, I love community.
SPEAKER_04Because do you know what? The community is paying money to see your show. So they do pay the bills.
SPEAKER_03Not if it's a private gig. The community is. I'm kidding. Can you explain the private gig drama to our fans?
SPEAKER_04It is pretty incredible. Uh so there's another podcast called Vulgar with Selmanilla and Vicky V. We love our podcast sisters. And they won't be listening to this. And uh they got a lot of flack a few months ago. I forget exactly when this was, but a bunch of months ago, because they talked about how, I mean, here I am, a bearded drag queen. They talked about how they thought bearded drag was lazy. And they were just specifically talking about they don't like when someone has a beard, but it's not part of the aesthetic of their outfit at all. And like they don't do anything to the beard. They just happen to have a beard and they're a drag queen, but the aesthetic of their drag doesn't have a conversation with the beard, right? It's more just like juxtaposed, right? Which I guess is, but not even juxtaposed. It's just literally like it seems like you just want to have a beard and you want to be a drag queen. Right. Where obviously mine, like obviously I'm perfect, so intentional, very intentional, very much part of the aesthetic, part of the vibes. So there they were talking about that and they clipped part of their thing. And the New York City drag community, I would even say the nay, the drag community at large really destroyed them in the comments. Yeah. And it's funny because they did like so many episodes in drag. Like they do all, they record everything in full drag.
SPEAKER_03Right.
SPEAKER_04They did one episode out of drag, and they were like, We're doing like an out of drag episode. We're gonna talk about our coming out stories and like more about like our boy side of our lives. Yeah. And then through that, they were talking about like, Uck, I wish like sometimes I kind of feel like an alien out of drag. And they then they were talking about bearded drag or whatever. Uh, and it's just so funny because a lot of the comments were like, Well, you're lazy for not even getting a drag for your podcast. They're like, Well, we did this as like a special thing, but yeah, so that is the background of like the last scandal. But whatever. So now there's a new scandal.
SPEAKER_03Because um, I asked. No, but people needed to know the the context of all that we are. Yeah, tell us every time. Everything that came before ever in their life. So they were hated down for that. Yeah.
SPEAKER_04And now they bullied in high school too. Probably. Right. Um, so they they and made it, I guess they their thing is they have like a top ick of the week. So Vicky chose the top ick. So a lot of times drag queens will post their pride schedule, right? And they'll go on Instagram or whatever platform and say, like, this is my drag schedule. And most drag queens will post the gigs that are available to be seen by the public to a public platform. Correct. But some drag queens will post their private gigs, and so they'll say, like, June 12th, private gig. And Vicky was like, That's such an ick to me because why are you telling the world or like anyone that follows you a gig that you can't go to? Right. Like it doesn't make any sense. Um, and yeah, it's like, look, I'm booked, look, I'm booked. And so then Vicky posted this thing, and once again, the internet just like really went ablaze. And now, not so first I was seeing it amongst the New York City drug community, and people were posting, like, got a private gig today, got a private gig. And then I started seeing it at just like all across these United States, and people all across the country are posting about private gigs.
SPEAKER_03That's crazy. Insane. What would it what can we say to inspire such hatred in vitreol? Right.
SPEAKER_04I don't know if we need hatred in vitreol, but um, well, let's maybe in our group think when we talk about Jesse Small and whatever the fuck his name is.
SPEAKER_03Uh button. Okay, but that okay, so that's that's a so that's a reference uh to the private gig thing about that.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, that that 30-minute anecdote.
SPEAKER_03You really kept going and going, and I said it's a long form podcast. And now that Netflix like does long-form podcasts, we need to get in the medium video medium. The video medium, the medium, medium. Um okay, so then Saturday of Pride was amazing.
SPEAKER_04Saturday of Pride was so fun. We went to our friend Kevin and Brady's house party. It was absolutely slay. Jonathan Groff's boyfriend said he would bring Jonathan Groff. He did not, but that's fine. So funny fine, no words. No words, no words. But we did have the best time there. I just love Kevin Brady so much. And they have such a great group of friends and group of just like a they they create a great atmosphere.
SPEAKER_03They do, and but then I want to talk about you know, um it was a great atmosphere. Our fight. But then we got in a huge fight. Oh, we got in a huge fight. And god I won.
SPEAKER_04Well, you always win. I always win. Oh my god, we're gonna get another fight right now. So um, yeah. So we're gonna. I win the drinking a glass of wine award. We got in a huge fight because um Donald, can I say like specifics or no?
SPEAKER_03I got us tickets to an event.
SPEAKER_04Donald got us free VIP tickets to an event. And Donald wanted to get there at a specific time, and I felt like that was way too early. I felt like it was maybe two hours early, even. And I said, We should probably go two hours later. And he's like, Well, no, I want to get there with enough time for this. And I said, uh, no. And then we got in a big screaming fight. So, and then we went and got food, right? So this was before the fight. I went and got food, and I went to the bathroom, and Donald did that like middle school boy thing where he got up and left. Yeah. But I had had one sip of a smoothie that I had just bought, and I was so excited for it, even though it was pretty mid of a smoothie. And when I got out, all of our food was cleared and my smoothie, my fully like full to the brim smoothie was thrown out. So I saw red. I saw red. As a as a queen that works at red eye, honey, I saw red. And I came out guns ablazon, and I was like, What the fuck? You threw out my smoothie, like it's not funny. And he's like, I'm not going. You know, I'm not going. Do you know how I call him? Good. So I called an Uber, and I knew that I was gonna cancel it. But I called an Uber and I was like, That's it, I'm done. I'm done, I'm done. And then we proceeded to fight for a 45-minute Uber.
SPEAKER_03We had a 45-minute Uber. Peter was in the middle of us, yeah. Um directly in the middle, and he was just closing his eyes and waiting for it to pass.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, and my kind of like and Peter, Peter's commentary on the fight was you guys seem like you were having fun, and that's the problem. It's funny. It's a fight. It was funny, it's funny. It was funny. We're gonna be able to do it. I don't it was real, it was real. I was legitimately mad because I Donald perceived the my text messages as being ungrateful and attitude after the text messages and just general uh sensibility speaking. And general sensibility of who I was and I didn't like the way I was being perceived. Right. And I guess that's really it. So I was just mad at because and so then I was trying to explain myself to be like, I see that you perceived that, but can I explain that I didn't intend for that to be the case? Right. And then we just butted heads for 45 minutes, and then when we got there, guess what? There was this diva who was like an Australian young lady gaga, kind of absolute weirdo sword wielding, sword wielding, uh kind of uh uh Muggle? Muggle what's a muggle? Isn't that from Harry Potter? Yeah, yeah. So she's a sword wielding muggle. She's a person, right? She's not an a fairy, but she was kind of dressed anyway. It was wild, and she had so many props in her numbers, and you could tell that they were all fresh out of a suitcase because they were all like crinkled. Yeah, and she was absolutely incredible. Absolutely. We went to Lady Land music festival. She was absolutely incredible, literally my favorite part of the night. And we didn't get there when Donald said for us to get there, wouldn't have even known who she was.
SPEAKER_03So sometimes I had really smart, kept beyond me, really. Listen, I love an event and I love to get to it and not miss the whole thing.
SPEAKER_04I think I was also nervous because the last time we went to this party, I got my phone stolen within the first 10 minutes of being there. Um, and so I think I was having a little bit of nerves about that too. And that's okay to be wrong. Yeah. You should try it out sometime. Nope, won't be trying that. You should try it out sometime. Yeah, Donald's um fatal flaw is that he'll never admit that he's wrong.
SPEAKER_01That's literally not true, and I have. Name a time you've admitted you're wrong. We've spoken about it off pod. Oh, I forgot. You'll have to.
SPEAKER_03And I do it all the time in my loving relationship with my father. Yeah, I'm sure, but I would like it for me. No, it's not gonna happen for you because you're gonna be right.
SPEAKER_01Because you're gonna go ahead and be wrong. You're gonna go ahead and be wrong. Okay, man. Yeah, so this was kind of like the this was like the fight for 45 minutes.
SPEAKER_04And unfortunately, Peter was right. We were both serious and having an amazing time. And I was even when I got there, I even was like, I'm leaving. That's it, I'm leaving. Also, wait, that was Saturday. Yeah, so we had been drinking like all day. Yeah, yeah. Um, and so then we did that party. We had the most incredible time, Meredith Marks with DJ, and it was so fun. I did, so I stayed through Kim Petra's set who closed the event out. And she really lost me with this last album. I agree. I feel like her last two albums. I mean, Problematique was released, and that was um released what was it called? Leaked. Yeah. Because she like allowed it to leak because it her label was like preventing her from releasing it. Yeah, yeah. And I loved that album before it was leaked, but then once it was leaked, I was kind of like, okay. Or no, once it came out for real, yeah. I was kind of like, okay, but I had already heard it and loved it. Yeah. And then I feel like Slep Pop Miami, I was like, I just, although I do a drag mix with Willcock in it, like I just, I don't know, it felt like all the songs that she wanted on Slep Pop that didn't make that like went to the cutting room floor.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_04And I just I'm like, don't reheat your nachos like this, it's not gonna be.
SPEAKER_03And she really did. I mean, I love like the Slep Pop era. I love the Slep Pop era.
SPEAKER_04This current one, but then the current, it's called Detour, and they I just really don't vibe with it.
SPEAKER_03And it hurts my feelings because she says, like, this is the music I've always wanted to make is this kind of music.
SPEAKER_04And it doesn't really sound much different than what she's doing. It doesn't, yeah. So um it's just worse. Yeah, it just sounds worse. In my humble and she even said at one point, she's like, This song changed music forever, and she did it. I was like, it sounds Like the other one. But but it was interesting, it was really funny because I'm in a sea of homosexuals, and some a lot of these, I feel like a lot of the Gen Z were really like saying every single lyric to the um detour album. And all the like millennials I was looking around, people there was a guy that made eye contact with me. I didn't know him. He was like, When is she gonna do coconuts? And the thing is, she did two songs that weren't on the album. Yeah, and I and I was saying every word, and my friend who's Gen Z was like, I've never heard these before. Yeah, so it was really funny. Yeah, she hasn't been.
SPEAKER_03I mean, has she been that long?
SPEAKER_04Like he's probably two years old. Right. So so we once saw her in the rain. Yeah, and I love that's when I realized I was like a super fan of it. Yeah, but then she really did lose me on her most like her last like two albums, unfortunately.
SPEAKER_03Wait, you know, um, whose recent album is also flopping that people are kind of making fun of on TikTok. Is it Katie Perry? Lizzo.
SPEAKER_04Lizzo. Yeah, she lost a lot of people too.
SPEAKER_03But like I I knew that from listening to it. I was like, oh, this is like not as good as her other stuff, and it feels like derivative.
SPEAKER_04But she also is like, this is my best album. Right. But I think like most artists will think that what they're releasing right now is their best thing that they're doing. Um and then maybe years later they can look back and be like, okay, that wasn't my best. And remember, I went to a tarot card reader for um for Christmas. My ex's um sibling and sister-in-law surprised me and got me a tarot reading because I knew how much I loved tarot cards. Right. And in like a kind of cutesy girl way. Did the tarot reader predict Liza's downfall? No, but she said to me, she said she knew nothing about art and like nothing about drag or anything, even though she was queer. But she said she she she was like, the cards are telling me to say that like don't ever be defined by it by your last project or like whatever project you're doing, that doesn't define you. And some things are going to be better than others, and that doesn't define who you are as an artist. And I think that Lizzo fucking sucks now.
SPEAKER_03Well, the yeah, it's just not her best.
SPEAKER_04Um, I really do like Lizzo personally, but I love Lizzo, I yeah, it's interesting because also with Lizzo. Um People have turned. People have turned on her after the allegations came out. But it seems like like all the allegations were dropped, and it seems like they don't really have any water to stand on with them. But her public perception is still the same as the allegations. Right. And I think that her music, I think if her album were like really good, people would be like, fuck yeah. Yeah. But it's so interesting, and I feel like we really do this as a culture. Maybe we this is groupthink, but we really do this as a culture with uh women celebrities, yeah. Where we love to see them rise and we love to see them fall as a culture and we love to tear them down. Yeah. And then like 10 years can go by and then we can love them again. Because we like to support a woman. I say we, not us specifically, but we as a culture. Culture likes American culture likes to support women if they are the underdog. Right. But once they have a lot of power, they want to destroy them.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, I was listening to that's why common win the election. Yeah. I was listening to another podcast, our podcast sisters at Who Weekly, who were kind of talking about this and how like um like female musicians and celebrities, if they have something that goes wrong, like like what happened with Lizzo, it's a much bigger stain on their career and it stays with them forever. Versus like a Chris Brown who something happens and she consumes back from it. Yeah, where like with a a female musician or celebrity, it stays with them like very temporary.
SPEAKER_04Like Janet Jackson.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, right. And Justin Timber like walked free from that. Exactly. So not loving that, but I did see there's like two. And he was the one that did it. Right. Right. I saw there's a TikTok trend that like going through all the um songs.
SPEAKER_04We know women are listening to this because we are mansplaining right now. We are mansplaining. But but some people are learning. Some people are really learning.
SPEAKER_03And if you're learning, you're listening. And if you're listening, you're learning. Um there's a trend though of going through each of Lizzo's songs on the album and like rating them like one to ten, and they're all everyone's like getting it's like this one's three, this one's two point five. Oh my god. Or Lizzo. Lizzo, if you're listening to this right now, you should be in the studio again recording a new album.
SPEAKER_00Sorry. We interrupt this podcast for a very special message from Straight Luke. Attention gay. Five months is over. And so I'm here at Straight Luke to interrupt the gay podcast known as You Think to let you know that Donald and Michael do not know how to record a podcast. The audio from their microphone is cut out at this exact moment. The remainder of the episode will be coming from audio from an iPhone. We apologize for any gay inconvenience.
SPEAKER_03Um, what else we need to talk about about pride?
SPEAKER_04We have a lot more to talk about. Oh my god, this is really good stuff right here. We went to Buka Debaco. Buka debaco what how do we say it? Buka de Ba. The Bepo, I think. With I actually don't know. It's Bob. It was us, Peter, Kevin, and Brady. And we're like, we're gonna do a cute little pride brunch. It was packed at this venue. They opened a part of the restaurant that I had never seen in my little life. No one knew that that was. No one knew it existed, and it was packed with so many faggots, so many homosexuals.
SPEAKER_03And like, this is not like a gay bar restaurant.
SPEAKER_04No, but like you walk in.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, and like they have a bottomless brunch. They have a bottomless brunch, so it's like but it does attract a lot of gay people. Yeah. But like, you know, people were coming with like mesh shirts and stuff, being like, is this okay to wear here? And then you walk in, like, every single person is wearing mesh.
SPEAKER_04It was very silly. It was crowded, really crowded. It, for example, it took us 40 minutes from the time we sat down to get our first mimosa.
SPEAKER_03Right. And this is like one of those bottomless deals where it's like for two hours. So we're like waiting for that first one. For 40 minutes. We are waiting to start our pride weekend. Yeah. And it probably does not start until the first touch of mm mimosa touches your lips.
SPEAKER_04And that was Pride Sunday. Right. So the parade can't shan't begin yet until that mimosa hits our lips. And when we sat down, I asked the I like flagged over a waiter. I was like, Hi, can I have a coffee? And he's like, Yeah, what do you want? And I said, Can I have a vanilla iced coffee? Or sorry, may. May I have a vanilla iced coffee with oat milk? And he said, What? And I'm like, Vanilla iced coffee with oat milk? Like a pretty simple basic order. Are you mad because it's giving bottom? Um, and he was like, Well, we don't have vanilla. I was like, okay, then just oat milk is fine. And he goes, we don't have oat milk. And I was like, almond milk? He's like, we don't have almond. I'm like, so what milk do you have? He's like, whole milk. I was like, do you have 2%? No, we only we only have whole. I was like, okay, then that's okay. He was so mad, and then he came back to the floor.
SPEAKER_03And then he came to me, and Michael started talking to someone else, and then this guy turns to me and says, Tell your friend to look up whatever milk we have.
SPEAKER_04Like, girl, you're acting like I I like made up coffee. I gave the most simple order. Yeah. And there are restaurants that don't have vanilla. Right.
SPEAKER_05No worries.
SPEAKER_04And then we skipping ahead to Monday, we always go, as we said last time, we always go to mom's uh diner for hungover brunch after Pride Sunday on Pride Monday. Love it. And the waiter came up to us and I said, May I please have a vanilla iced coffee with oat mouth? And she said, Is almond okay?
SPEAKER_03And I said, Absolutely! Absolutely. Sometimes it can be that simple. Yeah, it was crazy. Yeah. Yeah. I um yeah, so he was really pressed about that. He was really mad.
SPEAKER_04He was like really mad. Yeah. And every time he was responding to me just being like, Can I have a fucking iced coffee with milk in it? Yeah. It was like I was asking him to like go to Mars. Right.
SPEAKER_03Peter and I talk about this a lot. It's like sometimes like, how is this the first time this has ever been asked to use? Right, especially in this room of homosexuals. Right. It's like no one's asking for a coffee with oat milk. Yeah. Oat milk is a civil right. Yeah. I love to partake in that. It's one of the amendments, I think.
SPEAKER_04And Marsha B. Johnson did not throw that first break. Yeah. For some white gay guy to go into a brunch in Hell's kitchen and be poo-pooed over a vanilla iced coffee with oat milk.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, so that was like really trauma, and we're like, oh, this is not starting out well. And then it was taking forever for the two. So then after that, 40 minutes. 40 minutes. And then we were like. We got drinks before food. We got drinks before food. And then but but like barely. Barely. And then we realized like this, we think the restaurant like either ran out of alcohol or ran out of pitchers or cups or something. Because they were not able to do it.
SPEAKER_04I think that they had one of the waiters leave and invent alcohol. Right. I think he like went to the how do you make like champagne? I don't know.
SPEAKER_03But yeah, he had to run grains. I think he was stomping on grains. Yeah. I think it's wine. I think he was stomping. Yeah, do you know what um is in champagne? Is it wine? Yeah.
SPEAKER_04You learn something new every day. Um I'm not a big older, but apparently I am because I love champagne. I was doing a chose. Do it toast. Yeah, I think he had to pick the grapes.
SPEAKER_03No, sorry. I think it's not like he noticed Champagne is famously sparkling wine. Huh. Then what did you think it was?
SPEAKER_04I thought it was champagne.
SPEAKER_03Like I mean, it's from the Champagne region. But it's it's not like vodka. Well, it's like vodka is vodka. You're right.
SPEAKER_04Gin is gin. Yeah. Champagne is shampoo. So we did that. We got absolutely wasted boots. So happy with the boo boo.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, because then they also have screwdrivers, which you thought was a college drink. I thought was a very adult beverage.
SPEAKER_04Yeah. That was just what I got in college.
SPEAKER_03But then they like started like really they were making up for they were telling for their own. Yeah.
SPEAKER_04Well, we got one waiter that liked us, one waiter that hated us, one waiter that was kind of in the middle. Yeah. And um speaking of me not knowing about alcohol, remember what I what I said about screwdrivers? I said, I don't really want orange juice. And he goes, Well, you're drinking a mimosa. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_03I don't want orange juice, so I'll have a mimosa. I'm like, what do you think is the earth? Like, do you think the earth is flat? What do you mean, think? That was a moment on the view once where um Whoopi Goldberg or someone was talking to Sherry Shepherd, and they said, Well, what do you think the earth is flat? She goes, I don't know, I haven't really thought about it. Sherry Shepard got her own TV show. Yeah.
SPEAKER_04Does she have a story now? It was recently cancelled. Okay, because she thought the earth was fun. Yeah. That's bizarre.
SPEAKER_03And then like the next day she was like, you know, I realize that it's uh it's not flat.
SPEAKER_04Her PR team was like, Diva, let's sit down and discuss. We still haven't even gotten it. Oh, but so pride was really prideing though. It was like so many reserves. Uh we went so we went there. What did we do after that? Oh, we went to like every gay bar?
SPEAKER_03We went to like so many gay bars.
SPEAKER_04And then we went to $3 Bill. Yeah. We had the best time. And then we went back to Hell's Kitchen and went to every single gay bar ever. Right. And I made a Pride boyfriend for the night. You made a Pride Boyfriend for the night. And he brought me to the Eagle. Which is aggressive, but also, if that's the vibe, that's the vibe. We met at Verse and we were making out and I said to him, I love you. And he said, What? And I said, No, no, no, like just for the night. And he goes, Oh, I love you too. He we really matched each other's energy. I definitely was in the like chaotic demon kind of energy towards the end of the night. We had been drinking from the 40 minutes when we had our mimosas through the whole evening, through the $3 bill. It was a day. It was a day.
SPEAKER_03And actually, no, wait, we have to say, so after we did like the Brooklyn party, we're there for hours, we're like, let's go to the next bar. Woo! In Manhattan. Yeah. We've come all the way back to Manhattan. And then that's when Peter said, I'm gonna duck out. Yeah. He he was hungry, so he went home and cooked himself a nice snack. And Mike and I are like, We're gonna keep going out. And we need to know what's gonna do. Every bar in Home's control. Actually, we went to Flaming Saddles and I met a beautiful bisexual couple, a man and a woman. And I was like, What are your guests vibes? And they're like, We're both bisexual. I was like, oh my gosh. That's amazing. Yeah, and I was like, what are you here looking for at Flaming Saddles? And they said, We're actually looking for a woman to have a threesome with. Um he's like, My wife here is like like a little more bisexual than I am, and so we want to like have that experience for her. And I was like, I think this like mostly gay male bar is not gonna be where you find your Flaming Saddles have every They do, they do, but I feel like there's not gonna be like it's good, you're gonna get what you get and you won't get upset.
SPEAKER_04Right. But you're not gonna have like every opportunity kind of situation.
SPEAKER_03I just feel like I would have maybe suggested another venue for that. Then I did. Yeah, I was like go to the cubbyhole, like go elsewhere if you're looking for women.
SPEAKER_04Cubbyhole is not where you go to like uh.
SPEAKER_03True, but just to I'm just saying, to look for queer women, I would go to another.
SPEAKER_04I also feel like it's hard, like maybe I would go to like ginger's in Brooklyn, but I feel like it's hard for like Cubby Hole, I feel like a man walking in there isn't gonna get like the same kind of love. Yeah. I don't know. It it does get complicated. Um now you're mansplaining how to be a lesbian. But this is what's gonna make us get mad at people mad at us. Yeah, it's straight pride, it's okay. Well, I was like, I was mansplaining to you.
SPEAKER_03Right. Who is a lesbian.
SPEAKER_04So that's okay. How to be a lesbian.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. And we love our lesbian thinkers, by the way. Like, thank you to our lesbian thinkers. You all think so much about pussy.
SPEAKER_04Nah, just kidding. It was just funny, because and I, as someone who's single and is trying to like date and stuff to share that I told someone that I loved them. Just know that I had been drinking all day, I was feeling chaotic, and he said, I love you back. And yeah, he was just crazy. And I loved he said, Do you want to go back to my place? I was like, sure, we arrived at the Eagle. I was like, What?
SPEAKER_03I'm having the best time. Wait, there was once a season of Survivor, like an early season, where there was um this pretty unattractive man, um, and then on another tribe there was this uh kind of beautiful woman, and um, it was like the way beginning of the season, and they lost the challenge, and this guy was like, Ugh, I'm I'm definitely going home tonight. My tribe hates me. And this girl on the other tribe goes, Oh, well, we love you. And he goes, I love you too. And then he goes to that tribal council that night and he was like, listen, and that was their only interaction of the whole game. Um he was like, I I found love on this island and it was all worth it. Her name is Candice and the other chat, and we left us saying, I love you. So that was kind of like what you were doing. Yeah. He was completely Dululu and like that. Right. That's not what happened. At the reunion, he was like, so I read that wrong. Oh yikes. Yikes, yikes. So do you think that's what your guy was thinking?
SPEAKER_04No, he said I love you back and you invited me home back to his hotel. Right. I was supposed to sleep on your couch, slept in his uh hotel bed.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, I did wake up and I was like, where's my friend? Luckily, we share locations. Then I was like, okay, I know we have breakfast plans, but I am hungry and I don't know when you're coming back. So I ordered a bagel, honey, and egg and cheese, and I was like, I'm gonna have this. I look over at my lover, he's still sleeping. I'm like, do I wake him up to get the bagel? Like, what if he wants a bagel? Instead, I said, I think he wants sleep more than he wants a bagel, so I didn't wake him up. What would you want in that situation? Sleep. You want sleep over sleep? I would want someone to wake me up and I'd be like, bagel!
SPEAKER_04I would want someone to just get me a bagel, and then if I don't eat it, like, no worries.
SPEAKER_03True. And I have done that for him before, and I really have. And I shouldn't have.
SPEAKER_04It's okay for you. It's okay for him. Um, but then we went to mom's and had the most amazing time, even though I was completely so hungover, so exhausted, so brain dead, holding on by a thread. A literal thread. Yeah. Literally threads the app that's what you're holding on by. I've become really good. I have to say this. Say it! I have become really good friends with two of the women that work at the subway at my subway stop. Yeah. And because one of them stopped me and said, I always see you in this like crazy makeup running around. Where are you going? And I explained to her what I do for a living and everything. And she unfortunately moved up to the Bronx, so I don't see her anymore, but she's closer to home. And but the other one I see, but the thing about it is she is the one person she worked behind like the desk. Yeah. The other one that's still there, who I love to death, yeah. She is a cleaner. She always wants to give me a hug. Oh. And sometimes she'll be like, Don't touch me. Like, I've been cleaning. Yeah. But today she gave me a, she's like, hasn't seen me while she gave me a big hug. I accidentally touched her glove. And I felt absolutely disgusting about that. I mean, I don't know what was on it, but I imagine subway juices. And like it wasn't juicy, but I definitely got like asbestos. Yeah. And so I rode the whole subway just like holding my hand out and full face of drag, not touching anything. Yeah. And had to like walk to the gig with like a disgusting hand. And then wash your hands, I assume. No, no, no.
SPEAKER_03With soap and water. No, no, no, no, no. No, no, no, no, no. Um. Okay, so you're saying that she's filthy. So good.
SPEAKER_04Uh her her job does sometimes make her filthy, yeah. And she wants to give me a house.
SPEAKER_03Wait, you were just also talking about um house cleaners, um, which you had two comes in.
SPEAKER_04I had two house cleaners. I got a deep clean from a service. I haven't gotten a cleaner for like a long time. Why did I choose a deep clean? Why did you choose this service? I got a recommendation from a friend. She said that she loved them. Um, and I love them. They did really good work. But I was saying so two people came and it was a little confusing because I had to pay both women via Zell or Venmo, but I I was like, what do I pay them? Like, there's a fee, and it's like, do I pay half and half? And that the they were like, Yes. Okay. I'm like, why are you a service if I'm zealing people? Shouldn't I just like pay you and you figure out how to be it up? That's very short. And I just like tip them. And so I zelled them and then I tip them in cash. Right. Because I thought that was I don't know, nicer. I don't know. Um, and I yeah, it just was really weird. But one of them came in so hot, literally hot because it is a sauna in the record now. Um, but she came in and she's like, Oh, I've never met this woman in before, and it is vulnerable for me to invite strangers into my home because I'm a drag queen and I have a drag room, and it to a cleaner, it's like a little hard for me to explain what this room is. Um, and so she comes in and she's like, Oh, it's so hot outside, it's blistering hot, oh, oh, and she goes, I need a paper towel, I need this, I need that. I was like, Oh yeah, I have it all right here. Um, but she never said, like, hi, my name is Susan, you know? She just like really came in so hot. Yeah, she was really intense. She was giving the other women notes along. Um I left at some point when I came back. Yeah, I have to leave. I was I did leave, and then I came back before she left. I went to the gym. I I got some lunch, got some errands. Yeah. Do you know how I used to think errands were Eren, like the name Eren? Oh, that is like no D. Stupid. Yeah, so stupid. Uh yeah, but it was just it was intense, and then I I felt so awkward selling these people and just like paying the service. Right. I I'm really baffled by it, but they did an amazing job. And I'm going to find out tomorrow, and I'm so excited to get home to like a really clean apartment. Oh, that's gonna be fabulous.
SPEAKER_03Um, hey, I tidied up a little bit today. You did? Yeah, I like um the So, anyways, it's time to go to group day! And this is kind of where we talk about things that the whole group, the whole pop culture community are thinking about this is kind of my bread and butter.
SPEAKER_01I love this stuff.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, something you don't know about Donald is that in college he once was like, I'm going to make a YouTube series called Donald's Daily Dose. So it was like maybe a single day I'm going to post a video about what's happening in pop culture. Yeah. And he made one of them. Mm-hmm. And then he sat. And I remember saying, like, maybe make it Donald's like weekly dose. Like the alliteration was like, Yeah, but you can figure out a new alliteration. And we really couldn't figure out a new alliteration. Yeah. But daily was too hard.
SPEAKER_03Daily was too hard. I just like I don't have like a whole staff working for me.
SPEAKER_04I guess though, like, because TikTok wasn't invented yet, you could have definitely done that on TikTok.
SPEAKER_03Totally, like a green screen thing, like here. Source that maybe I'll do that. Maybe maybe I'm gonna bring back Donald's Daily Dose. Yeah. One that you'll just be behind. But um Anywho, the first one is that, I mean, by the time this episode comes out, the wedding might have already happened. The Royal Wedding. The Royal Wedding. Taylor Swift and that dude. And Travis Cuckoo.
SPEAKER_04Travis Cuckoo Kaka. So rumors are that they're going to be getting married at Madison Square Garden on uh 4th or something? Fourth of Friday.
SPEAKER_03Fourth of July, yeah. But it appears like they literally are. Like they've been setting up at Madison Square Garden. I saw a couple of belief it.
SPEAKER_04I saw a video of them like putting red carpet over the stairs and removing it. Uh-huh. Interesting. So maybe they were like practicing. I thought that they're bringing in a castle and they're gonna make a castle within. I think it should be published. Like, I think maybe she'll release a documentary or like a movie of it. Probably. She'll probably release a documentary movie.
SPEAKER_03It's so interesting. Can you imagine? Oh like I'm sure she's completely transforming it and it's gonna look incredible. That is wild to have your wedding at Madison's Burger Garden. But honestly, she should have the biggest, most of I wonder how many people are gonna go. Right. Like how many people do you invite to a wedding at like a huge concert venue like that? Or is it like just your like few friends in this huge venue? I really thought that she was gonna do like a like a smaller, more intimate wedding in like a house in Rhode Island or something, and this surprise me.
SPEAKER_04Well, based on the rock that's on her finger, I don't think she's that kind of girl. True. And he likes to have fun. I think he just loves his popsar diva.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, but I just I find that wild. I also saw that she and allegedly watermarked all of the invitations, so like it would say like Michael Wick is Michael Wick is all over it. If it made you know where it came from. Whoa!
SPEAKER_04Oh wow. Smart. That's really smart. Yeah, that's crazy. She uh unfortunately has to do stuff with that, you know? And I I was thinking more like maybe you have to show the invitation to get in.
SPEAKER_03Oh, that could be true also. The security must be insane there. And I'm sure they're taking away phones. Which I'm like, what would I do at the wedding? Like pretending to I don't know, speak with other guests. No, you love speaking to strangers. I mean, can I at least have one phone just for like scrolling? Scrolling. Yeah. Like I want to take pictures. I was like, when are you going to go to the bathroom? And you just have to stand there or sit there and just like think. Think. You think. When's the last time you went to the bathroom and didn't have your phone with you?
SPEAKER_04I've been trying to not use my phone in certain cases. I know this is not what you do, but I'm trying to not use my phone in the toilet. And I've been putting my phone charging in the kitchen area. I don't know, like dining room in New York, uh, before going to bed. So I don't bring my phone. It's last night I did, but I usually don't bring my phone into my bed anymore. But what about the bathroom? I try not to. I maybe I'll put on like a podcast, or maybe I'll just like have thoughts. So you just sit there as you're taking it down.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. And just think. Yeah. That's horrifying. Yeah. Especially knowing that you go to the bathroom for about an hour time. Yeah. Because of your long cold.
SPEAKER_04And that's how Bestie Bestie's not how long our colon's are.
SPEAKER_03Um, so love is love, and we're so happy for them. But speaking of love is love.
SPEAKER_04Love is in the air. Two people are publicly together now. I would say I was I gasped when I found out.
SPEAKER_03I would say this is potentially the most cursed union I've ever heard of. Yes.
SPEAKER_04And well, I don't know about that. But it's definitely five. It's amongst the most cursed unions. I'd say two have been on Bravo recently. One was my ex and his now partner, and the other one is this.
SPEAKER_03But when I say cursed unions, I mean like immediately you hear the pairing and you're like, oh, this is gonna be some drama. Right, right. Right. This is a match made in chaos.
SPEAKER_02And that would be Jesse Smollett and Karama Brown. Insane. Insanity.
SPEAKER_04I didn't know that Jesse I thought it was Smollett. Yeah, Jesse Smollett. Oh, yeah, but you were saying Smollett.
unknownOh.
SPEAKER_04I say Smollett. I think it's Smollett.
SPEAKER_03Jesse Smollett. Jesse Smollett.
SPEAKER_04Um Jesse. Jesse? Jesse. Jesse uh what he blew up at that TV show Empire. Yes. And he was like at the top of his game. And then Empire was ending and he wanted a little bit more fame. So he staged a fake homophobic attack on himself.
SPEAKER_03Allegedly. Allegedly. Allegedly. And I say allegedly. Wait, because when I was at Wendy Williams in the Hot Topics department, she uh they trained us. Like she has to say allegedly, and also even the things that are alleged, we'd have to get three articles that said it, and so there's at least some backup legally. So we do have three articles if Jesse's listening, Cuban. We do have more than three articles. Yeah, and a Netflix documentary about it.
SPEAKER_04Yeah. Um, and allegedly staged a homophobic attack and then really disappeared after that. Yeah. And some people disappear and they show up in a movie produced by God knows what because they were cannibals. Um Army Hammers. Army Hammers and some crazy movie like American Requiem or something.
SPEAKER_03Yes. But like, okay, so Jesse is chaotic for those reasons. Yes, you know, like maybe allegedly staged a homophobic attack. Yeah. On himself.
SPEAKER_04On himself.
SPEAKER_03Which is, I think, really chaotic. Yeah. Then there's Caramo, who has, you know, uncle I've been the voice of, you know, positivity and changing life coach.
SPEAKER_04Uh and then Yeah. And then recently decided to come out and say that he was bullied on the set. And certain things that he said really resonated true and seemed horrifying. And certain things seemed like the other cast members just didn't really like his guts. Yeah. And I was unsure I I of course was not making any opinions because I don't know these people. I only see their public personas. But then when I see a video of Karamo saying that he feels so safe with just Justy Smollett, I'm like, how do you feel safe with someone who staged a fake, allegedly homophobic attack?
SPEAKER_03But also like Karamo's um article, the title was like Surviving My Reality TV Nightmare. And I'm like, okay, girl.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, it's like they didn't remove your gap in your teeth. They didn't like hush hush off of an essay that happened. Yeah. These are things that happened in um model. Um you just kind of were on a set with people that seemingly didn't like your guests. Yeah, like they were in a few. And now that you're dating Justy Smollett, I'm kind of like, well, maybe they had a boy.
SPEAKER_03I mean, these pictures just came out of them uh like kissing at an airport, and I was like, I cannot believe that this is real.
SPEAKER_04It's also funny because obviously when Justy Smollett was on Empire, I was like, this man is certified 100% on Rotten Tomatoes, they're fresh, so sexy. He is very attractive. Very visibly attractive sexually looking at. But then when you know that he allegedly staged a homophobic attack. Allegedly.
SPEAKER_03I It's an it's a it turns a 10 to a negative 10. Yeah, yeah, it definitely is like, oh, that's like pathetic. Yeah. Um so it's horrifying. It's horrifying. I hope he's a good thing. And especially, yeah, I hope he allegedly. Yeah. Yeah, I can't think of any other celebrity couple where I'm like, this is I mean, I'm thinking like Jojo Siwa dating like some guy from Big Brother.
SPEAKER_04Hey, it's Jojo Siwa's month. Street Pride. If you're wise. I love her journey from I would say asexual uh bow in hair to lesbian, to soft butch lesbian, yeah, to inventing gay pop, yeah, to chaotic um like black glittered lesbian, yeah, to uh drinking around the world in Disney in a trucker outfit because she's a lesbian to bisexual reality big brother to straight.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_04And that is every journey that an NYU freshman girl goes through from freshman year to senior year.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. Hers is just documented. Yeah, like everyone goes through this. She really did it publicly and continues to. Um, I I preferred her lesbian, yeah, but that's just my preference.
SPEAKER_02I also loved her coming out as like gay cousin, what was it?
SPEAKER_04Oh yeah, she's like best gay cousin ever. That's how she came out. Her cousin got it's like my cousin got me the shirt, best gay cousin ever. And we're like, oh. But it's so funny too, because not like best gay sister, best gay cousin is so random.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, and I know it's like when you have a sexual preference, it's like like it's supposed to be about you, but my I have a sexual preference for her. I prefer her to be Leske. Right, right. Is that so makes sense? Yeah, of course. Yeah. Uh preference. But I haven't heard much from her since she became straight. She's like so in love. She recently, um, she has a Jojo Siwa cruise. Oh, I have to hear from her. Yeah. Would you go on the Jojo Siwa cruise? Maybe if they did a you think they have to be.
SPEAKER_04What would I be? Would I be straight or or soft butch? I think I'd be soft butch. Yeah. Or I would be drinking around the world, Disney. That'd be so fun. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03No, I'd like you in the um, in that not trucker outfit. What is it called? Construction. Construction outfit. Construction in the world. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, that's true. That's very pink-panky. That is so pink-panky.
SPEAKER_04Yeah.
SPEAKER_03What's our final group thing?
SPEAKER_04Um, our final group thing. Yeah. Tell the event. Okay. Something happened today. Two people climbed the Empire Stakeboat thing and got engaged and put a flag saying that, yay, peace.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. I will say, like, as someone who's gotten engaged, like, I was jealous of the attention. Um, including, like, same with this guy who I knew from the Wendy Williams show, who he was running. He did well, yeah, he was um Disney. Disney. He got a Toy Story. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Is that Disney? Yeah.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. Um, so he was just his buzzlight ear, and the other one was Woody, and he got down on one knee. Where did they do that? In Disney World? No, it was like in Central Park. It was like a pride run. And it got so much media attention, I was like, the media was awfully silent about the engagement. No, they weren't. But no, my wedding. Yeah, and my wedding they were really talking about. Right, right, right. But my engagement, crickets. Um, crickets. That's because I wasn't in charge of it. If I was proposing it'd be a media frenzy. Peter is in the other room. Oh no, I'm saying I would be a media frenzy like, yeah, I don't care. Peter went with that. Exactly. Yeah. So he did it perfectly. Yeah. It was perfect.
SPEAKER_04You had a photo shoot. No, it was perfect.
SPEAKER_03I wouldn't have wanted any of my attention publicly. Um, but did you follow around with these Empire State climbers? Did I follow along? Like, did you follow along? Do you know what it's about? Tell me. I think I was in a gig. Oh, you were in a gig. Okay, so these people these two people climb the Empire State Building. From when I looked into it, they are dare devils. It's like to do this movie we watched about the two girls that like climbing. Yes. It's about to be see phone. It's probably about these empire people. Yeah, so they're really um they're really up there. How do they get- I don't understand.
SPEAKER_04The logistics are crazy, but they Do they have to like buy the thing to go to the top and like look out and then just keep climbing?
SPEAKER_03I could not tell you, but what I could tell you is that they posted on their Instagram before getting arrested, like their engagement, and they're like, and the thing, so the internet can be a horrible place.
SPEAKER_04Right, but on the ride here back from the gig, I looked up, I looked at the internet, and it was one of the best places ever because everyone immediately was memeing this moment. Yeah, yeah. All the drag queens are posting like their show flaggers. Yeah. Gay bars are posting like their flags instead of the flag that they held up. The people are marketing this moment, they're meming this moment, and they're doing it with such a quickness. I saw um a comedian do like a bit already dresses them. I mean, it's yeah. How uh! Yeah. How uh. It's incredible, it's incredible stuff. Girls are so fast. It was like the Louvre, um, the Louvre burglars. Remember the Louvre burglars? Yes. People were just as excited about that.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, yeah. Um, well, congrats to these two Climbing the Empire State Building. I hope you're doing well. Um, and I feel like it's time to move on to our final segment. What's that?
SPEAKER_04Um, as we learned, I love everything drag and barug. And Donald doesn't like drag races we learned, but he does love everything pop culture, reality television besides that one and something that. And so we are going to join our our forces, and I'm gonna share something that's more in line with my expertise. Donald will share something in line with his expertise, and we will have to pretend that we are an expert on that thing.
SPEAKER_02Do you have one pick too? I do. Do you want to go? Yeah. Okay. Who do you even think about Laura Bell Bundy?
SPEAKER_03Laura Bundy, I actually Laura Bell Bundy. Laura Bell Bundy. Okay, like sounds so familiar. So I think a lot of things about Laura Bell Bundy. Um, she was a murderer. She murdered, she was a Ted Bundy family. Um, so she was responsible for many murders, but she only murdered women. It was women on women crime, which is some of the worst kind. Yeah. Um, and her preference, you know, we were talking about sexual preferences before. Her preference is murder women down. And I was like, girl, no. And and so all we were. I was like, girl, well, I didn't get to talk to her, but I spoke to um Ryan Murphy, who wanted to put out a show about this. That's how it connects to your interests, you know. And so Ryan Murphy was like, I'm putting out the murder show about her. And I was like, girl, no, you know? Yeah.
SPEAKER_02He's like, girl, no.
SPEAKER_04And that's your time. So you were close. Lara Belbundy is an actress, a Broadway actress. She has originated a few roles. She was Elle Woods in Lily Bond Musical. And she also, I don't think she, I don't know if she originated Penny Engleton in Hairspray the music out, but let me see. I actually don't care. Yeah, who cares? She was in it. She was in it, she was definitely in it. Yeah, she's an actress, she's a singer. I'm working late. Okay, are you ready? Yeah. Do you know who you're telling me? Yes, I do. Okay.
SPEAKER_03Hey Michael, what do you even think about Mario Armando LaVandiera Jr.?
SPEAKER_04Mario LaBando La Bandiera Jr. is um Mario Lopez's real name. So um Mario Lopez, uh, of course, he when he wanted to become famous, like when he went to move to the acting industry and the entertainment industry, his agents were like, this name is so long and we're having trouble saying it. Right. So can we just shorten it to Lopez? And um that's what he did, and now he is famous for that name, but that's his real name.
SPEAKER_03And you know he was also in the press today, Mario Lopez, you know why? Was he one of the climbers? No. No.
SPEAKER_04Oh, oh, Mario Lopez.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, Mario Why. Um, he is like Mega. Is he really? Yeah. What the hell? I know. Um no, but you you actually were not off in that this is the real name of someone. You know? Is it Mario and Luigi? No. Mario Armando Labandiera Jr. Yeah, it's Perez Hilton! Yes!
SPEAKER_04Really? That's crazy. Yeah, and why is his name Perez Hilton then?
SPEAKER_03Is it his drag name? Yeah, it's like it's a joke on Paris stars. So he did Perez Hilton, um, and that's his whole shtick. Um, he's on my mind right now because he has been living in Vegas for a couple years, and he made like a whole account, like um, Perez in Vegas, and like that was like his whole shtick, and now he he got religious and said, God told him to move to Miami. So he's moving his kids to Miami.
SPEAKER_04As Jojo Seba once said, Karma's a bithair. Which when you make your whole career about bringing down other people, yeah, you become religious and move to Miami. Right. That is so scary. Yeah. Wow, I did not realize that. I always thought it was interesting that he had a name similar to Parasel Story and he was like obsessive celebrity.
SPEAKER_03I mean, I honestly thought that that was his birth name, and then today I was like thinking about it. I wonder it's probably not his real name. Yeah. And I was dead, right.
SPEAKER_04I uh celebrities need to stop becoming religious and moving to Miami.
SPEAKER_03I know. They really need to or stop being religious and being mad about it. Yeah. Or stop being religious and hear it.
SPEAKER_04Yeah. Let's stop using religion to, you know, make crazy decisions like voting for a president, right? Um, you know, uh starting a podcast. We love the nuns.
SPEAKER_05Sister.
SPEAKER_04Wait, if they literally call each other sister, like unironically. Yeah, yeah, yeah. If you're the like three um straight women that aren't friends of a lot of gay people, um we say the term sister to each other, like maybe you might say girl or something like that. Uh but they say it for real. They say for real.
SPEAKER_03And that's something we want to leave you thinking about. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02So keep thinking and keep it thinking that's on. I'm the thing with us.
SPEAKER_04Thinky thinky thinky.
SPEAKER_03You think is produced and edited by Straight Luke, aka Luke Martin, and kind of sort of by Peter's done. Art by Curtis Brown and music by Jack Rayner.