Male Friendships: Roasting, Loyalty, and the Stuff We Don’t Say

In this episode of Still Figuring It Out, Josh and Britt break down the reality of male friendships. Why can guys go months without talking and pick right back up? Why does roasting each other actually build trust instead of breaking it? And why is it so hard for men to open up when it actually matters?

They get into the different types of friend groups, the unspoken loyalty between guys, and the truth about showing up when it counts. From trash talk and competition to accountability, mental struggles, and faith, this episode digs into what real friendship actually looks like for men.

If you’ve ever wondered whether you’re being the kind of friend you’d want to have, or when the last time you checked on your boys was, this one hits home.

We appreciate y’all listening. If you got something out of this, share it with someone who’s still figuring it out too. We’ll catch y’all next time.

Transcript

SPEAKER_01 0:01

My mic on? Yep. We're oh we're going. We're good. Oh okay. Yep. Still figuring it out. This is Britt, my co-host with me today, Josh. And man, we've made it through uh well, assuming we don't get kicked off before this episode gets out, that'll be five episodes. So uh we're going pretty strong. No, but this week's topics topic is gonna be about operation of male friendships and how uh how uh male friendships can can go. This topic's actually brought to us by Eddie Brown, was the one who gave us the idea for this one. So uh we're gonna we're gonna try to do it and see if we can uh kind of get past this start that's been a little bit rocky. So you want to start it off, Josh? What uh what do you got on on male male friendships? How do you how do your male friendships look like?

SPEAKER_00 0:54

No, it it's it's weird, you know. Male male friends and female friendships are completely opposite, you know. Girls, they from what I see, I mean, if they don't talk for a while, they kind of just lose friendships. Whereas guys, man, we can go without seeing each other for a long time and get right into things like we never missed a beat, you know?

SPEAKER_01 1:15

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:16

And I mean, I have buddies that I haven't talked to, you know. I've I mean, a few friends from high school even, like, won't talk to them for a year or so, you know, and you see them, yeah, like you never missed a beat.

SPEAKER_01 1:28

Right. And and I'll see, I'll see my wife, you know, some of her friends be trying to call her, you know, three or four times a week, and she'd be like, Nope, don't want to talk to her. It's it's gonna be a three-hour conversation. I don't I don't have time for. What let me ask you, what does what does Infinity think about your your male friends or your, you know, how your friendships are with some of your guy friends?

SPEAKER_00 1:50

Well, you know, honestly, I I don't know. I mean, my friends are my friends, and you know, I stay texting a lot of my buddies throughout the week or, you know, whenever they're not around because my life is pretty crazy all the time. And if I'm on the phone with them, I can't really hear them, you know, because there's always a kid hollering or yelling or doing something. I'm constantly having to get on to them. So I don't really talk on the phone to my buddies a lot unless I'm in a vehicle or away from everybody else, you know?

SPEAKER_01 2:22

Yeah. Yeah. See, I I've got I've got like different, I don't know how yours is, but I've got, you know, a group of friends that I can just be be goofy around and we're just always, you know, clowning on each other, making jokes. I got group of friends that are, you know, kind of the ones I go to advise for for money making or or investments, and then, you know, some that are like my brother that are more, what would you even call it, conspiracy theorist type people, you know?

SPEAKER_00 2:52

So which which friend group am I in? Which one do you think?

SPEAKER_01 2:54

Oh, you'd be the goofy one for sure, man. Yeah, you're you're a lot like me, man. We're you know, we're both both pretty good pretty goofy. It was kind of funny though, the the first time I took my wife out to to meet, you know, a group of my friends, and it was, man, they're they're kind of the the ultra goofy ones. We actually went and watched uh a WWE event. I don't know if you know anything about uh I don't remember if it was WrestleMania or the the Royal Rumble, but I got a couple friends, John and JD Lucas. They uh we went over to their house, man, and and it's just kind of I just remember when we left, I remember thinking, you know, is my wife is probably gonna ask me, like, are are you really friends with those guys or do you just hate them because you just really pounding on each other the whole time, you know? And and it's kind of funny because it's like I feel like with women, they'll they'll be real nice to each other to their face, and then when they leave, you're getting all the gossip. And with them, it's like with us, it's kind of the opposite of the stuff. Still the gossip out the window because yeah, like if I know they they got relationship problems or something, man, I'm gonna I'm gonna go at them pretty hard on that. And then when we leave, I'm like, no, you know, they're they're really my good friends, something I'd probably never actually tell them to their face.

SPEAKER_00 4:06

Yeah, no, yeah. I, you know, and I've I've got the same kind of group of buddies, you know. I I have those friends that really all I talk sports to, you know, just we just talk sports, you know, like and sometimes it even depends on what sport. I can even break it down to smaller, you know. I've got a I've got a sports group of buddies that, you know, I may talk sports to a couple of them about football, and then I may talk to one other friend, completely different sport like basketball, you know. So like I have those groups, and then and then obviously, you know, I had the the group that that we just like you said, just clown on each other or or just act ignorant, you know. Yeah. And but though I think those are the friends that that I can trust the most, though, you know, because no matter how much you know we talk crap to one another, I mean at the end of the day, we're we're pretty tight and we've got each other's back, you know. We're we're pretty solid groups. So, so yeah, it is funny how you know guys will kind of have different categories of groups of friends and and do certain things with because you know obviously guys have different interests, you know. I mean, I have buddies that might not like basketball at all, you know, but I also have buddies that absolutely love basketball. I love basketball, you know. Now, obviously I like sports in general, like I even watch golf and everything else, but basketball is my favorite sport to watch, you know. So a lot of times, a lot of you know, and we're in America, so they're like, oh, football, you know, which is fine. Right um, you know, Ron, I mean, he's all about football, you know. So if I asked him a basketball question, he might not be able to answer it, you know. Yeah, he was wrestling too in the wintertime. Yeah, yeah, he he loves wrestling. Well, he loved he used to love WWE wrestling when we were younger. You know, I I remember we used to always jump off his barn and you remember those pillows that used to have like Stone Cole Steve Austin and Sting, like those little bitty two-foot pillows, you know? Man, we used to do so many wrestling moves off the barn, you know, at his house. And like, I mean, just good time, you know. So it was always a good memory, you know, when I think back. But but yeah, so like I said, but we have different friends groups for different things, you know?

SPEAKER_01 6:29

And remind me, so when we were in school, I remember you played basketball.

SPEAKER_00 6:36

Well, so this is how I this is how I remember it.

SPEAKER_01 6:39

May maybe you didn't play all that much, but didn't like every winter you would you would move to like Mill Creek so you so you could go play? Oh, I did that one time. Oh, yeah. I just did that one time by junior year. I was thinking like maybe every co two or three times you'd you'd go to Mill Creek so you could make sure you you got to play in the city.

SPEAKER_00 6:56

That was I never played basketball at Mill Creek. Oh, you didn't? No, I only played I only played baseball one time. But well, I tried to play baseball one time, but OSSA said no. So I moved yeah, I moved back in the winter so I could play baseball in the spring, you know. But but no, I did I did try because I didn't play I didn't like football. I mean, you know, I just didn't like playing football. You know, it never was fun to me or anything like that. Like, like I said, I I that's my favorite sport to coach, and I'm you know, I I coached football for a few years, you know, but it was my favorite sport to coach, but I just never really liked playing, you know. I was I didn't like getting tackled, you know. I just I wasn't a big fan of it, you know. So so I I did. I tried to move off that one that one fall my junior year and play baseball, but OSSAA wasn't having it. And so I just I moved back, you know, and and yeah, so I didn't play football my g my junior year because like like I said, I just didn't like it, you know. Gotcha. And then, you know, Derek and Ron and they were like, hey, we'll we'll play baseball our senior year if you play football. And you know, I was like, oh yeah, let's do it. You know, I'll I'll play football then if y'all play baseball because I wanted I wanted our senior year to be fun. Right, you know, so of course I played football because football's first. Well, of course, they you know, he's on the team, they backed out and didn't play baseball in their senior year, and I was kind of disappointed. But, you know, I mean, what what do you expect? Right. They never played baseball one time in high school.

SPEAKER_01 8:28

Yeah, and their senior just the last sport.

SPEAKER_00 8:32

So, but I try to do stuff like that. And, you know, I'd there was one year that I was not on the basketball team, but for some reason I got to do everything with the basketball team. It's kind of weird. Maybe that was my like a team manager type deal? I didn't know. I didn't even do that. I just went to the games with them, you know, and got to miss school with them. I didn't I never understood what you have a jersey? No, heck no, I didn't have a jersey. I didn't even practice. Did you sit with the team? Uh no, I just went with them. I just got to I just gotta ride the bus with them. I don't know why. It was just a weird, a weird deal. Uh I think that was my senior year, honestly. Me and Ron, we, you know, we had that Wildcat pack. You know, it was a pretty cool little student section we had, but but yeah, I don't know how, but I just, you know, I always had to wear, you know, the button-up shirt and the tie, like like the basketball team had to wear to school that day, but I wasn't on the team. I don't know. It was just a it was a weird deal. But I mean, it was fun. I got to miss some school. I got to go to all the games, you know, I got to get in for free. So so that was that was a good time, you know.

SPEAKER_02 9:34

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_00 9:36

But but yeah, like, you know, we're talking about friendships and and stuff like that. What why do you think dudes can roast each other nonstop, you know, and and make fun of each other and everything else that we do, and then still have each other's back, you know, like it's funny, you know, because I was thinking about this a while back, was we was doing something with church, it was like a life group or something, and and one of the things to do was we had to text somebody or we had we haven't talked to in a long time, and just say, hey, just wanted to let you know I'm thinking about you and then I love you, you know, and it was out of nowhere, you know. And at this point, I I text Derek, you know, and uh I text him, and you know, I hadn't talked to him in a while. And I shoot him that text, and then literally five seconds later he called me, hey man, are you all right? Like what's going on? You know, so so it was it was good to know that you know the guy that has been my friend my whole life, and even though I haven't talked to in a while, if I text him, hey, you know, just want to let you know I think I'm thinking about you and that I love you, you know, just something like that, how fast that he drops whatever it was he was doing and he called me to make sure I was good, you know. And that's that's something that just friendships that men have are just different, you know. I mean they're very they're very valuable, you know. And I think a lot of times people underestimate friendships. They take them for granted. Yeah you know, and and that's something that I I myself that take for granted until you know I think about it like we are right now, and I'm like, man, like I've got a really good group of friends. I mean, I might not talk to them all the time, but just knowing that if I ever need to call them and I need something, that I guarantee you that a couple of them will pull f through for me.

SPEAKER_01 11:34

Right. You know, so yeah. Well, to answer your question, I think it's uh I think it's about um you know being being able to be comfortable around people, you know, and and what I always feel like, you know, if it's a situation where, you know, there's a big big group of friends and and they're you know willing to call me fat or whatever while I'm there, it's like, well, what are they gonna be saying behind my back that's yeah that's gonna be worse? Yeah. So so I just know that you know, and and that's usually the group that that you know you can talk to about anything because because they're they're gonna be honest with you, whatever they're thinking, whether you like it or not, or whether it's whether it's positive or negative.

unknown 12:14

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 12:14

So that that's that's just my you know, two cents in on that thought.

SPEAKER_00 12:19

Yeah, well, you know, I think I think male friends or guy friends are they are so much more competitive. You know, they get competitive, like you can you can joke with your friends, but you'll also be competitive, like we're throwing bags, you know, it'll start off as a good time, you know. But y'all, you be playing bags, you know, we'll be playing bags together, and like you might be sucking or I might be sucking, and we'll get mad at each other, like our at ourselves, like, golly, man, I gotta do better. And of course, you and I, we don't hold back, we just talk about how bad the other one's sucking, you know. So you're I mean, but you're still friends, you know. Like so, but we we do we do joke, but we also push each other and compete, you know, just like stuff like that. But that's something I don't know if if girls do a lot of, you know, maybe in certain aspects, but just, you know, just even like some of the smallest throwing bags. I don't know if a lot of girls would be competitive just going outside and just throwing bags, you know. They might be competitive in how they look or something like that, but but they might be competitive, but I feel like if if they were willing to trash talk each other, I don't I don't know if they're really that good of friends or if they're just two people that are just like. Yeah, if if they if they're I mean, if I see women trash talking each other, I instantly think, yeah, they don't like each other. Right. You know, but guys, you're like, oh, they're just being idiots. Like they they they're best friends. Yeah, you know? Yeah. So, but and you know, around around my male friends, I would say that it's a lot less filtered. You know, like I I don't cuss or anything like that, but but you know, some of my friends do cuss and and they'll say certain things that isn't said when you're around your female friends. Right. You know? So but I do have those those friends, you know, that and some of them curse so much that they don't even realize they're cursing.

SPEAKER_01 14:23

You know? Yeah, just yeah, I know people like that. It's like every other word when when it doesn't even make sense to find a way to sneak it in.

SPEAKER_00 14:31

Yeah, and like like when I'm around my female friends, you know, I do which I mean I say my female friends, like I have a ton. I've like I think like the only actual female friend that I have is is Megan. You know, Carter. Well, I call I still call her Megan Carter.

SPEAKER_01 14:47

I mean, outside of family, uh really just my wife would be really for me. And yeah, that's that's a totally different even when it's uh an environment that's joking or you know relaxing, it it's it's not really not that it's you know, one's better or worse, it's just a totally different environment. It's all it's still more serious.

SPEAKER_00 15:10

No, and and it's funny because like we we go our whole lives being friends with guys, right? And then we get married, and then like obviously our best friend is our wife. You know, like isn't that weird how that works? Like we're friends with guys our whole entire life, which we still have those friends, but like when we get married, our best friend is our wife. Like that's the person I go and tell everything to, or or complain to the most, or gripe at the most, or you know, just like and it's it's funny that it's that life is like that because you know, I look back 20 years ago and I would never have thought that my best friend was gonna be a woman. Right. You know? Same.

SPEAKER_01 15:53

Yeah. So it's uh it's kind of weird. And then, you know, after you're married for a while and you go see some of your old friends that maybe you hadn't seen in a while that you were friends with in high school, and you could still have that same relationship with them, and then you know, you leave and you're like, man, it it's hard to believe that that was me, you know, 10 years ago. Yeah, right. And now almost 20 years ago, we're 20 years old.

SPEAKER_00 16:16

We're older now, yeah, yeah. Yeah, think about that now, and it ain't it ain't 10 years ago anymore. But you know, and when I think of male friendships, I also think like it's harder, I think, for males to open up to other males. You know? Just being able to open up and talk to your friends a lot of times because you know, I guess when I when I see some of my friends, I want them to think how good I'm doing or or you know, how great life is when really you could be struggling with something, and but you don't want to open up and maybe maybe it's sounding weak or soft or anything like that, you know.

SPEAKER_01 17:00

Yeah, yeah, I I could kind of see I could see where that could with with some of my friends, you know, if it's someone that I've borrowed money from, obviously, you know, not gonna be able to make it look like I've got all this money because uh, you know, that that doesn't really work. But be you know, me for the most part, I I think I can pretty much open up with them, you know, as much as I want to. Yeah. There's always gonna be some stuff with some friends that, you know, you got some of those friends that maybe don't believe in, you know, certain mental healths, you know. If you had a mental struggle, that might not be the same. You're weak, you're soft, that might not be the ones you want to want to bring something like that up to. But you know, you said you said a key thing was as much as you want to.

SPEAKER_00 17:48

Yeah. You know, so there are those boundaries where you can't open up more. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_01 17:55

Like, there there's definitely boundaries that I wouldn't really want to open up to anybody, to be honest. Right. At least for me. You know, and that would that would take a lot on on some things. I think that's a good thing.

SPEAKER_00 18:08

Well, you know, I and I think I think that is something that I think personally men struggle with is opening up, you know, even past those certain boundaries that you may have, or those those friendships that, you know, you try to keep maybe a like a dome around or something. You don't want to get outside that box or that dome because it might be uncomfortable. You know, I I was listening to Josh Howerton a while back, about a month ago. He's a pastor at uh Life Point Church in in Rockwall or Rockwell, something like that, whichever one of those rocks. But, you know, he was saying that there's how how the importance of friendship and and how meaningful friendships are and stuff like that. But he was talking about there's there's four different you's you know, like there's an arena you, and the arena you is the one that everybody can see, you know, it's out in the public, it's it might be on social media, and like that's who everyone sees you as is and that they he called that the arena you. And then and then there was one that was called the masked you, like M-A-S-K-E-D, masked you. And that was the the part of you that that or the part of I'll I'll use me, the part of me that only I know and no one else knows, but I have a mask on, like I'm I'm hiding it, you know what I mean? Like sure. And then the next one was the blind spot you. And that's part of you that somebody else may see, but you don't see that about yourself. Okay. You know, like like I'll use myself as an example. You know, my wife says I'm loud. But uh, you know, when I sit back and think about it, I am loud. But you know, and maybe I didn't realize it until my wife constantly pointed it out how loud I am, you know. Right. But like that's that's that that blind spot you is the is the you that like I said, you don't see, but everybody else does see.

SPEAKER_01 20:14

Missing like self-awareness, I guess type deal.

SPEAKER_00 20:16

Right. And and then the last the last one is the potential you. And this is the part of you that uh I don't know, that you don't know, but really nobody knows except God, you know, and and so like you know, God has a plan for all of us and and God you know can see everything, but so He can see who you could be, you know, and and but the the whole thing about that was you know a lot of times when we ask for forgiveness you know, to God, we can ask for forgiveness a a million times and God has al has already forgiven us and and forgotten it and moved on, you know. But to us, it still eats us up inside. Right. And and he was saying that the reason why that is, is because you haven't had that friendship, you know, with your friends that you can open up to and and tell people and tell them because you can't you can't forgive yourself without telling, you know, someone and moving past it because it's still bottled up and you like, you know, it may be a sin that you don't want anybody to know about. You know, so you tell God and God forgives you, but but you haven't forgiven yourself because you're still keeping it inside. You know what I mean? So that's that's why I think it is important for us to have those friendships with not just any friend, but a friend that. Is like you, a friend that believes what you believe in, that has the same beliefs as you, the same morals as you, the same guidelines that you live your life in. We have to have those friendships with those people that have those same beliefs. Because when we do, when we do, life can get so much easier for us. You know what I mean? Because I mean, I know stuff about you that nobody else probably knows. Right. You know a lot of stuff about me that nobody else probably knows. You know what I mean? And and sometimes those things are even things we may not want to tell our wives, you know? Sure. Because and that's why, you know, that's why our friendship is such a good friendship, because we can talk about certain things and get it off of our chest. So we have those, you know, that friendship that we can do that, you know. And that's and that's why it is, and that's why we're doing this podcast to, you know, tell guys that it's okay to feel a certain way. Sure. You don't have to be a tough, manly man all the time. You know, like it's okay for guys to cry. It's okay to struggle, you know, like it happens to all of us. Sure. You know, and and I think that's that's what a lot of people don't understand is you don't have to live this great, glamorous life that you see on Facebook all the time. I mean, we know Facebook's fake, you know, and and we tell ourselves that social media is wants you to see a certain thing. And we know that, but we'll still get on there and be like, man, they live so much better life than we do, you know. And so like we know that isn't how a lot of people live, but we still tell ourselves, like, man, I wish I could be more like them, or I wish I could do that, you know.

SPEAKER_01 23:56

So like, yeah. And that, like I said, that's I think that's why it is so important for us to to find those certain friendships so we can really open up to people and and yeah, it and it's important it's important for you to have them, but it's also important for them to have you as a friend. So what would be what would be some things that you could think of that would make you better as a friend? You know, help you improve to make sure that you're being the friend you need to be for them as they're being uh, you know, the friend they need to be for you.

SPEAKER_00 24:34

I mean, honestly, I think you can't you can't reach out to your friends when you need something. You know, I I think you need to be just as good of a friend to to your friends as some of your friends are to you. Right. You know, I have some friends that maybe only call me when they need something, you know? Yeah. And um do you call them, do you consider them friends? I mean, you know, when you think about it, are they really friends? Or are they just acquaintances that you continue to help? Or were they friends at one point? Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 25:12

Then they kind of and they just keep abusing this, you know, the friendship and you know what I mean? Yeah, kind of like that jelly roll song, only talk to God when I need a favor. Yeah. You know, kind of kind of using it that way.

SPEAKER_00 25:25

I don't I don't really ever listen to Jelly Roll, but I mean that's that's a that's a great, a great point. I mean I have you know, I have those friends that only are friends when when it benefits them. Hey man, applied for a job. Is there any way you can make a phone call and help me out? Or hey man, I've I got this going on. Is there anything you can, you know, maybe pull some strings on or help me out, you know? Yeah. And not those aren't friends. Right. You know, like I mean, they may have been a friend, like you said, at one point in your life, but is that really a friend? Right. You know?

SPEAKER_01 26:02

So it's it's it's a sensitive subject, I guess, with those type of individuals, you know, because Yeah, to me, I mean, I those the those type of people I I've tried to cut out, you know, and I'm not saying that that's necessarily the case of what everyone should do, but I that's at least how I would feel.

SPEAKER_00 26:25

Well, you know, I will I will tell you, like, you know, I got on school board and the first the first meeting, I get there and I'm you know, I'm I wasn't nervous. I I wasn't really I wasn't nervous at all. And then they told me when I was getting sworn in, I had to read it off a piece of paper. And I think I might have told you about that. I had to read off a piece of paper, and I said the United States of Oklahoma. Yeah, yeah, I remember you saying that. But uh, but you know, like I wasn't nervous at all, but there were a lot of people in there that I didn't know. But a couple of my friends came to that first board meeting to just support me, you know, and I I think showing up for your friends uh is a huge part. Yeah. You know, like just being there. I mean, you know, if they ask you to be there, great. But if if you know they got going something going on and they're going and they're they're you know, they just show up and you're like, man, that's a good dude. Yeah, that is cool. That's a good dude. Just you just you're nervous about a situation or you may, you know, something like that, and you look over and then they are just they're supporting you and rooting for you. Like, right, that's a good feeling, you know. And uh so it's it's nice to have those people. I mean, or even when your kids are playing and they show up to one of your kids' events and and root for your kids, like that that goes a long way.

SPEAKER_01 27:45

Yeah, that's real cool too.

SPEAKER_00 27:46

You know, that goes a long way. And I'm and I'm blessed with a great Sunday school class who I can call friends. You know, if I need help from a couple guys moving something or anything like that, like I wouldn't be surprised if I say, hey, can two of y'all come and help me move this if five or six of them don't show up. Right. You know, so it's it's it's really it's really nice to have those type of friends that I can count on. But, you know, again, those are those friends that we have the same beliefs and we have the same morals and we have the same goals. And and I don't mean goals as in like I want to make X amount of dollars every year, or I'm trying to get the disposition, you know, where I work, because we all work at different places. Right. You know, when and when I say goals, I mean being a faithful Christ follower who I don't want to say who don't sin, who don't sin as much, you know, like but you know, to be those wrong type guys, you know, that that that does stuff and tries to live their life, you know, by the book. And I'm about to get a doorbell, I think. A mailman's here. Yep, there it goes. It's all right. We'll keep it. But they're also the type that kind of holds you accountable too.

SPEAKER_01 29:04

Right. Oh, a hundred percent. And and you know, the hundred percent. That's another thing that could be very positive. Someone that's you know, when you slip up, they're gonna let you know.

SPEAKER_00 29:13

Yeah. And like, and like I said a minute ago, with the with the with the four, the four masks or the four, the four faces, you know, like that's the friends that I'm talking about that I can go to and tell them, hey, you know, I've I've I've talked to the to God about this, you know, I asked him for forgiveness, but I need to I need to get this off my chest. Right, you know, and they may look at you like you're an idiot, and they may even slap you or even say some stupid stuff to you, or not stupid, some stuff that you did that was stupid, you know, but those are those are men that I can I can I know that will hold me accountable. Right, you know, so it's always nice to have those guys, you know. And I'll I'll tell you, you know, I've got, you know, Lane, I don't know if you know Lane Pruitt. You probably know Lane Prue.

SPEAKER_01 30:00

Yeah, he went to church with him.

SPEAKER_00 30:01

Yeah. But uh, you know, he's he's a pastor at our church, and but he's he's phenomenal, you know. Like he's a guy that's younger than me, but I can I can reach out to and talk to him about anything, and he'll be there for you, you know. So like he's a he's a great example of just a guy that that can show you, you know, things as a younger guy, you know, because obviously not all role models are gonna be older than you, you know. Sure. I mean, some people figure it out faster.

SPEAKER_01 30:33

You know, so did did you know him when he was younger? I did, yeah. I mean, he was mean. Yeah, yeah. He was one of the meanest people I knew.

SPEAKER_00 30:42

I know you're you're exactly right. And we we talk about that, you know. He was a he was a fighter, you know. He I mean, you looked at him wrong, you're probably gonna get punched in the side of the head, you know. But but and that, and that's the that's the cool thing, you know, about what God can do in your life, you know, like just how you see you see a guy like Lane and and you see what he was way back then, and then you see him now, and the guy would give you all of his clothes off of him if you needed them. Yeah. So like just just seeing the difference night and day in in him and his brothers. Yeah. You know, they're all like that. Right. And they're they're all great, great people, you know, and they're but like I said, those are those are the friends that you need. You need those friends that that will hold you accountable and and be there for you. Absolutely. So it's it's nice to have. So if you don't have those friends, man, find them. You know, right. Go go wherever, go wherever you need to go to find those friends, you know. And I and I'll tell you, honestly, church has been my saving grace, you know, in finding those friends.

SPEAKER_01 31:53

Yeah, yeah, that's a great place to find.

SPEAKER_00 31:55

I would I would say I wouldn't go to a bar to find find my buddies, you know, like not those kind of buddies, anyways. Maybe, maybe if you might want to, you know, throw some bags or play some darts, that might be a good place to go. But but when you're looking for real good friends that can help you out, that's I mean, church is a good place to go. You know, because having friends, it's not always just being there whenever it's fun. I mean, you know, you gotta be there when it's not fun. Yeah. You know, exactly. When when stuff gets hard. Because people got I mean, people is going through certain things that they may struggle with, you know, and you gotta be that friend that's there for 'em.

SPEAKER_01 32:38

Yeah. I mean, that's that's kind of what a friendship is, not just the when you need stuff or you know, when thing when things are going well. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 32:51

For sure. But, you know, we're we're wrapping up. I mean, we're we're trying to keep everything in a certain time, you know, but I could talk about friendships a lot, you know, and and the importance of them. Yeah. But I think I think closing, are you the kind of friend that you would you'd want to have? Or when's the last time you actually checked in on your boys? You know, reaching out to your boys and asking how they're doing, or hey, you want to go out to dinner or lunch, you know, because sometimes dinner's hard with the family. But, you know, so this week, holler at one of your old boys, you know, just one of the guys you hadn't talked to in a long time, and just say, Hey man, I was thinking about you, just want to see how you was doing. Okay. Sounds good. All right, man. Well, thank y'all for joining us. And uh I'm Josh, this is Britt, and uh, we're still trying to figure it out.