Faith, Business, Music, and Real Talk | Nunn Better Podcast With Johnny & Kelly Nunn -Intro Episode

Welcome to the very first episode of The Nunn Better Podcast, hosted by brothers Johnny and Kelly Nunn.
In this intro episode, we share the vision behind the show, the journey from Think About It to this new brand, and the kinds of conversations we’re here to have — from business, leadership, and music to faith, culture, healing, and the difficult topics many people avoid.
If you’re looking for real conversations with depth, honesty, and purpose, you’re in the right place.
In this episode, Johnny and Kelly talk about their background in music, business, and ministry, why now is the right time for this podcast, and what listeners can expect as The Nunn Better Podcast moves forward with guests, bold conversations, and meaningful dialogue.

Topics in this episode include:
The vision behind The Nunn Better Podcast

The move from Think About It to a new podcast brand

Faith, leadership, business, and culture

Music, ministry, and life experience

Honest conversations around healing, restoration, and purpose

What’s coming next on the podcast

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SPEAKER_01 0:29

Hello everyone. Today I'm excited to introduce the very first none better podcast with myself, Johnny Nunn, and my co-host, my brother Kelly Nunn. What's up, everybody? Welcome.

SPEAKER_00 0:39

Welcome to the podcast. Kelly, how are you doing today, man? Good, man. Super excited to be here. Finally glad to see us kind of launch this thing that's been, I mean, we've been talking about it for a long time. Yeah, long time. So super excited to finally kind of jump into action, so to speak, and kind of uh let the world know what we're doing.

SPEAKER_01 0:58

Yeah, so uh I guess to give you guys some insight of what this podcast is. So that's kind of why we're doing this first episode because our executive producers, uh, I can even talk today. My executive producer says we have to do this, so we're doing it. So we wanted to kind of let you know why we're doing it, what we've been talking about off camera, and what we're wanting to do. So today, Kelly and myself are gonna give you our vision of what the None Better Podcast uh podcast is and how we're gonna move forward and make you feel part of what we're doing. We're gonna ask some tough questions with some tough people, uh, business people, we're gonna talk of spirituality, we're gonna talk about faith, we're gonna talk about a lot of things on this podcast. So, well, Kelly, I think we just need to dive right in. Let's go. So, I'm gonna ask you since we've been, well, we've been brothers obviously our whole life, and we have been doing ventures together since we were kids, right? We started playing music together when we were a teenager, started a band, and we've been playing the music ever together ever since off and on through our lives. So, obviously, this podcast is gonna have some to do with music because of course that's who we are as a core. But I also I'm also a businessman, I've owned three businesses, and um, we're gonna talk about business leadership and how faith intertwines with all those type of things. So, if you don't know, Kelly also is the pastor of the St. Pete Vineyard. So, and that's in there in St. Petersburg, Florida. So uh this whole thing is been, I think the timing has been right now, now that you're the senior pastor, uh, I've been in a business now for six years. Uh, we've collected some stuff, talked to people, went down the circles of different things, and now here we are, we're gonna launch this thing. And we think we got some interesting people we've talked to lined up to come on and talk and bring to you, the audience, some very cool people, some very cool topics, and maybe some tough uh, you know, topics that people are some questions that people don't like to ask and talk about. And we're gonna try to dive into some of those things and see where it takes us.

SPEAKER_00 2:42

Well, I think in the church world, it's one of the not to say that it's lacking. I don't mean that in any way, shape, or form. Because people are creating some great content out there. Um, what I what I kind of see some of the problems that are that we're facing, especially in culture, is there's a there's a an underlying caution with some of what they're bringing up. Not to say that everything's not, you know, uh controversial in some stuff, um, but you know, as I was praying about well, what is it that I can bring to the table that would be utilizing uh something different than what we what's been out there, I guess, so to speak. And um, you know, God's showed me, A, that you and I are not like the normal guys in in the church world. So I offer a little bit of uniqueness in that regard from my perspective. Not many pastors have been a you know professional musicians, travel, done, done all of that, and to be able to take those experiences and to be able to share some of that with people. I'm also looking at really kind of, you know, one I think one of the biggest things that's plaguing our our society right now is that term church hurt. Um, some I I want to bring some of those stories to the church. You know, we're gonna test a church hurt. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 3:55

You and I both have had been through that on a multiple occasions, uh multiple occasions, I mean. And so um uh we can attest to a lot of that. We understand it, so that's why I think uh we're in a position right now where we're older now, unfortunately. I hate to say it's okay. I'm in my 50s, and so but that's where I'm at. Mentally I'm not there, but that's where I'm at. So uh hopefully those 50 years I've gained a little bit of perspective and knowledge and understanding. I'm I'm definitely more compassionate toward people understanding because I've lived life and had my own knocks of life and uh understand that hey, it ain't black and white, it isn't always uh, you know, you know, you've got these funnelings, it ain't like that. And sometimes we have to step back and say, you know, put yourself in those people's positions and say, or their shoes, and say, hey, you know, it's not you know, we need to give a little bit of compassion, we need to uh you know, give some love here. And that's where obviously faith in Christ and all that comes into place with us. So even it even applies to my business because there's a difference between owning a business and calling yourself a Christian and then actually running your business through the lens of Christianity or through Christ, right? Absolutely. And so I've been uh navigating that path. You know, I started my business when I wasn't living for God and became a Christian now, so I'm trying to change and pivot how I operate, how I uh you know, how I portray myself to the public too. Like I want to portray that image. So uh we're gonna be talking about those types of things and having uh some deep dives in how we can still walk with our faith and be true to our faith, but yet still operate in the world and how we operate out there. And I think Kelly brings, and I even I have some of this, but Kelly has way more than I do, the professional musician side of traveling outside of you know, in the depths of some of those, uh, you know, that stuff when you're trying to be a Christian, and but you're in the the well, this call the hells of hollow or whatever you want to call it. Sure, sure. Sure.

SPEAKER_00 5:37

When you're in the rock, you know, if people don't know the behind the scenes of being in the in the genre of traveling and musicians, and especially in the rock and that sort of scene, man, it's it gets pretty dark in some places, and you're well what you're noticing, and this is one of the topics that we're gonna be uh kind of diving into when we start the podcast, is as far as the interviews and all that kind of stuff, is you're seeing right now a revival uh in a lot of the music worlds. You've got Jacoby from uh Papa Roach, you've got which Jack Osborne just came out and was like they were talking, because you know Ozzy being the Prince of Darkness and all that kind of gimmick, and he's like, that was never a part of our home life. This was a gimmick. And it was a show. Yeah, show. And he's like, but most people never realize that Ozzy believed in Jesus and believed and had a had a conversion of faith in his life. Alice Cooper's a PK. You've got Gwen Gwen Stefani, who just got married to Blake Shilton. Uh, you know, him helping her with her identity. You've got this big cultural shift, and I don't think it's by accident that we're seeing these things. So these are kind of the things that we want to talk about to be able to navigate to see that you have guys that are, or I say guys, I say people in general who are super successful in the music industry, the movie industry, any of those industries, and they're starting to find out the emptiness that is associated with that, to where you've got everything at the at your disposal, but yet you are still spiritually dead.

SPEAKER_01 7:02

Well, I kind of learned that a little bit on my own path here working, you know, as my business has grown, you know, I came, you know, money, started making money, more money than I ever had in my life. And so you had Bravo, by the way. Thank you, thank you. I appreciate that. That's a God thing for sure. Yeah, testament to God. But that being said, now you know, because I think when it's new to you and you have money, obviously you want things, you know. Sure. And that's not necessarily the best thing to do, but no, I don't not that I have brand new cars, all that, but I've bought a guitar, bought cameras, I've bought you know things I wanted that I never could afford before. And then you realize after I get them, I play with them, and the newness wears off, it's just another thing that sits on the shelf that I got it. Who cares? No one cares, right? It's not fulfilling, you know. Things are not fulfilling. I tell my daughter all the time with Scarlett, she's 10, and uh I want to give a little shout-out, Scarlet. She just got A B on a row, by the way. So I just want to give a little shout-out. Hey Scarlett, proud of you for doing that. That's awesome. Uh, and there's I think some TikTok about it, so go check it out. So back to that, like, so I understand that whole what it's like, uh, you know, having wanting things and getting all those things, and there's not fulfillment in it. Like, it's just I got all these things, I got all the money on the planet, I got all the cars I could have. At some point, what else is there to buy? What else? There's nothing because you're not fulfilled in spirit. So that's what we're here to try to hopefully bring some of that into the podcast along with some music guests and you know, business people. Um, I got some friends, we got some good friends of ours and an attorney um who want to talk about some Second Amendment stuff. So we got some, I think some cool things lined up. We've already done some recording, by the way. We've already got three or four guests recorded that we'll be releasing, but we got to do this one first. So that's kind of hope you gives you a little bit of insight of where we're going. And Kelly, you have anything you want to like you know dive into a little bit while we're here, we got some time.

SPEAKER_00 8:34

No, I'm just really looking forward to having some really honest dialogue with people that I think can help influence, but also can help bring healing uh to some circumstances with people. I because that's I think as a pastor, me being becoming a pastor later on in life, um, I don't know necessarily I would have paid attention to some of these things. But I think as we've gotten older, as you and I have kind of lived our lives, have kind of dealt with some of the problems that we've dealt with within the church world, um, we now can bring uh a different type of experience that can lead people to restoration, to repentance, to healing, um, and to it ultimately uh a much more further relationship with the.

SPEAKER_01 9:18

Well, I think since we're here and we're doing an introduction, let's just go back a little bit to our history. Who are we? Who where the nuns come from, right? So there's a lot, you know, we know all we've met a lot of people in our lifetime, and yeah, sometimes I walk into people and I'll hey Johnny, how you doing? And I really don't remember them. I hate to say that. But I've met so many people it's hard to remember everybody. It is. Uh especially if you're in the music scene and you're traveling around and hitting city to city. You know, like I said, you got more experience than I do in that, but I've got enough of myself. Sure. Uh we've done tours together, so uh just didn't unfortunately I'd take the family route. You took the professional music route. I did professional, but just not to the level you have, so you understand. Um, but I think going back a little bit of history. So we and Kelly were born in Kentucky, that's where we come from, and we were lived in a small little town called Mount Washington outside of Louisville, Kentucky, up a baby till I was about 12, 13 years old. Well, actually, we're 16. Yeah, yeah. You were 16. I was 1990s when we actually moved to Florida.

SPEAKER_00 10:05

I was 12 turning 13 when you were moved here.

SPEAKER_01 10:07

Teenagers, you know, going into teenage years, and we all moved out of Kentucky, moved to Florida. Culture shock.

SPEAKER_00 10:13

We were living in a small town, man. You know, you're fucking.

SPEAKER_01 10:16

We had two red lights in our town. Yep. Uh one McDonald's, one McDonald's. Actually, one McDonald's. It was uh Druthers back then. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But it was a Druthers, there was a KFC, there was a Pizza Hut.

SPEAKER_00 10:25

That's like our roller skating rink that everyone would go to on Friday night.

SPEAKER_01 10:29

Like, you know, a small little town, small town living. Uh we we grew up kind of around the farm area, that's kind of where we come from, and a place called Greensboro, Kentucky. That's where my grandparents come from. And also as a kid, so we got introduced to music at a very young age. My grandpa was a professional musician, and we were on the road, it seemed like every other week was.

SPEAKER_00 10:46

Dude, I remember, I remember as early as probably four or five laying down in Papa's green van, coming back from a weekend of playing concerts. Our our parents were in a southern gospel group, so uh they traveled every weekend. I mean, for the longest time, our grandfather was spending almost it's like anywhere from 50 to 51 weeks out of the year on the weekends, he would be going and playing with their band somewhere. Um, you know, I remember getting to sit down and talk with him about the adventure. Yeah, so we grew up in this era of music, um, and so we saw it, but I don't think it was until I mean at least for me, I was a teenager when I really started noticing like the allure of music. You know, we we played sports going up, so there wasn't much of that.

SPEAKER_01 11:34

I lived in my grandparents' house when I was younger, uh, because we were young, but um, there was always guitars and men. My grandma played like nine or ten different instruments. I can't even remember how many he played, but it was quite a few. Quite a bit. So anyway, there's always guitars laying around, and and so we always had a guitar in his room. Every Sunday morning he would get up if we were going to church, if he wasn't playing, he was always playing and that sort of thing. So I was always around music. I'd pick up the guitar, I didn't know what I was doing, but I was always pinging on it, tinging on it, you know, going up down the front. You know, the thing she as a kid.

SPEAKER_00 12:01

I want to play it because it's uh instrument.

SPEAKER_01 12:03

We were grew, we grew up around music, so from a very young age, it's part of our life, and we've never stopped. And so we've played all kinds of places. So music is who we are as a breed. But moved to Florida, uh, you know, we we started church, and our life's here. I get married, you go on the road, uh, and then you know, our lives move on. So that's kind of where we come from. As you know, we're kind of just a bunch of country people, to be honest with you.

SPEAKER_00 12:23

What was wild is when, you know, because this all started with me, me, you and Al. Um, I think I was 14. Al's our other brother, by the way. Yeah, Al's our middle or the middle between him and I. And um I remember I had just started playing drums. I had this radical experience with God at 13 years old. I remember. Um, got prayed for, felt the spirit come over my life, and this change that happened, and then, you know, I just got up and started playing drums.

SPEAKER_01 12:51

From wanting to play drums and couldn't to playing drums.

SPEAKER_00 12:54

Yes. And so there's always been this connection for me with the drums, guitar, all that kind of stuff. And though so I remember us starting a group uh with our buddy Darren, uh, played some shows, started doing that, and then you felt the call. Hey, uh, me and my family are gonna go move away. Um, you know, they end up moving back to uh Kentucky, and so me and Al, we started diving into the local Christian scene and you know, second scene as well. We had connected with a um with a church and uh uh basically a venue uh called the refuge. Yep. And so this is where I was introduced. Yeah, yeah. So here in St. Pete, there is a music revelation or music revolution that that happened. Um so when this church started coming in doing these concerts, they got directly involved with the booking agents who were who were, you know, Tooth and L Records at this time was probably in its infant stages. They had just a few releases, you know, Christian music was taking this shift from this contemporary CCM kind of like Petras of the world, Carmen of this world. Yeah, which is like this pop culture thing, but that's not what me and guys like myself and and my brothers we were really. Yeah, we wanted some of the more heavier music, and this is where this started to becoming a pop, almost a pop culture phenomenon, because it went from no one could possibly ever sustain a full-time living doing this to wow, we're actually sustaining a full-time living doing these things. And so me and Al spent, I mean, three or four years of grinding away under the Christian underground, I mean, even secular underground. I remember we were playing with like POD. POD, you know, when they came there. Yeah, well, I mean, their first east East Coast tour, St. Pete Vineyard, was one of the first, the St. Pete uh refuge was one of the first venues that they ever played on this coast. So seeing them kind of come up, I mean, I remember seeing Blink Win 82 playing with them before Travis was in the band. Like, you know, you saw all of these things kind of happen and take place. And I don't think we ever really realized what was actually happening. But as this continued to grow, go into the late 90s into the early 2000s, now you have Christian underground or faith-based music that not only is in the in the mainstream, now it's charting on major, major radio, charting on regular charts on the billboard charts. So you have this explosion, and then add on like the Vans Warp Tour, who strategically planned just to go after the skateboard punk rock kids of America, and a lot of those kids were based in in the faith world. And and Vans Warptour uh from a genius idea started looking at where these popular bands were going on. And a lot of them, for probably four or five years, you had some of the largest selling metal, underground rock bands were all within the Christian scene. You know, bands like Switchfoot when they first came out. You know what I'm saying? Like you started to see how this could actually transcend and go places that we had never dreamed of. And so we just started following these things, and then more and more and more. I take, you know, I leave to go to college, come back, and Under Oath was looking for a guitar player. And so I was like, well, I got nothing to lose. I'm gonna try this audition. And it worked. You know, so I start, you know, we start touring. Um, and this is right when they had just started to the full-time touring. So, you know, it's real difficult. I I I I blew out my knee, but I had made some really good contacts. So as soon as I started touring again and that healed up, I got another phone call from Further Seams Forever asking to be their touring guitar player, um, started helping with that, and then still keeping my connections with that one further ended, I got another phone call to help with my lean. So, like it was all a blessing, you know. And it just, you know, I put myself in positions to where if somebody was needing another musician, at least I could throw my hat into the arena to allow things to be able to come forth.

SPEAKER_01 17:02

And those bands led you or it gave you the ability, or uh um what's the word? Um whatever the word is. You went in these places where you got to go into the depth where seeing all these playing a bunch of huge concerts, playing big bands like Alice and Chains. Oh yeah, all these things.

SPEAKER_00 17:16

So you got to the that level. Well, we were doing more secular shows and we were a Christian. Yeah. Which is even more of a even testament to this, is that we were able to go, people were, I mean, not to say it wasn't there was without its damages or its risks, because there were many times we, you know, people tried to jump us, people did jump us, people, I mean, you know, you add these elements into the touring world where it had primarily be dominated by secular bands and all that kind of stuff. There was no room for this.

SPEAKER_01 17:47

This is a great example of what we're talking about. Like when we bring in some musicians who've been down this road, they can talk about how their faith has been tested to the extreme. Yeah. When you're in these environments, specifically when you're running into a band and you're touring from city to city to city, especially when you're touring with non-Christian bands. Like, you don't know what's going to come up, you don't know what's going to happen, people get offended. There's all kinds of crazy stories we can go into down the road with that.

SPEAKER_00 18:10

That's one of the actual ideas that we have is why, because that there's a there's a cause and an effect to this. The cause was, yeah, you started to see people really excited about faith, bringing that into music and to be able to transcend that to the world. But what it also did was create an allure of oh, be a Christian band, you'll be popular. Yeah. And then you realize either people, their faith wasn't uh up for it.

SPEAKER_01 18:39

It wasn't rooted in faith.

SPEAKER_00 18:40

Or it wasn't rooted in faith, it was rooted in popularity. So we saw you saw that up. We saw that a lot.

SPEAKER_01 18:47

There's a lot of bands that use that as a doorway to get into yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, that that's that happened quite often. So I hope that kind of gives you guys some basic information where we're wanting to go with this. It's it's way more than that, but this has been an exit in the making for such a long time, and I'm I'm happy to be here. You don't understand the the struggles we went through. Blood, sweat, and tears. Some of the time we have seen. We did start another podcast called Think About It, which is still part of what I do, but did that for more of my business, and that was the thinking of that that kind of finally said, Hey, we got to point, let's now do the None Better podcast, and let's now dive into those subjects and topics that we've been talking about for such a long time, bring that into fruition, and here we are, we're doing our first episode. So kudos to you and me and Ricky Ricardo back there behind the scenes doing and giving us uh all the love that we get. So um about some of the uh episodes that we've already recorded. Yeah, we have uh well, we've had a few episodes already done. So I have one off uh and I forget Oscar's last name. Do you remember his last name? I said Oscar, I don't want to say it wrong. Anyway, Oscar was a homicide detective in DC for 10 years, moved to the special forces for 10 years, traveled the world doing all kinds of uh special ops things. So we had a whole gun second amendment uh recording that we've done already that's gonna be coming out. Uh we have Taj from uh Basciuto Karate that I've interviewed that's gonna be releasing again. Uh Kelly has a pastor Tim Kelly who has a very unique story with what's happened to him and his life, that I'm I'm really actually looking forward to hearing that interview with him with you. Uh that he's coming up and be doing that here pretty soon. Um big one we're getting ready to go to do, guys, was Bradley and we're gonna be Bradley from Dropping Bonds podcast. Uh, we're gonna be going out there in the end of April. We're gonna be launching uh going out there on his podcast, and I'm really excited about doing that because that's gonna really help us get in front of some people that really launch this thing the way we really want to be launched. So uh tune into that's gonna be coming out. Uh he's actually gonna be on our podcast too, so we'll be a couple podcasts coming with him. Uh we have some cool things, other things lined up. Uh Carp Uncle, yeah, my uncle we just did, we just uh shot that last week with uh Uncle Harold, I'm Harold Milby from the Christian Business Concepts Podcast. Uh Friday it's releasing. No, no, no. Uh Gabe. Gabe, yes. Gabe and Gabe Graham was Anonymous Prime, Anonymous Prime, which we actually just we actually just got off uh doing a 27-year reunit tour with Anonymous Prime. So our friend Gabe Graham and uh Jason, they had a punk band back in the 90s, and so they asked Kelly and I if we could uh help them fulfill their dream of reuniting and going to a little show, and we did that. So we just finished doing that little punk rock stuff that was uh kind of fun on the East Coast. So uh Kayle, how was that experience you learned to play drums for that kind of fast punk rock stuff?

SPEAKER_00 21:20

Not what as a drummer, you know, what I'll say this what gave me an advantage learning this stuff was actually playing in church world. Yes. Because like our old church world was like some of the two-two stuff, and you know if you know what that means, a time signature, so it's super mm, mm, mm, so super fast kind of stuff. So um actually, believe me, it was a challenge, yeah, but it was a challenge that I I I welcomed because I knew it was gonna make me better. And so, like, actually by the time that I got to playing it, I was like, oh, I can actually do this.

SPEAKER_01 21:56

Back in the late 90s. Uh, but I didn't play his songs learning all those guitar parts. You you you know, you played them, so uh it was uh definitely challenging. Well, I'm gonna say channel.

SPEAKER_00 22:05

Yeah, the challenging for me was learning someone else's parts.

SPEAKER_01 22:07

Yeah, it was well, and some of the recordings weren't real good, like we were here what was going on, so I was trying to figure that part out. So but we got through it. Like the show went amazing. Uh we played it pretty well. I I feel pretty confident what we did was great. I felt great with it. We're probably gonna be doing a show in St. Pete again with them, from what I'm understanding. So we'll be looking for that. Anonymous Prime. Uh we'll be launching uh announcing when the uh that's gonna happen. I imagine it'll happen in the next you know a couple months, probably, but uh they're wanting to do another show here in St. Pete, so I look forward for that. Um other than that, I can't think. Well, I do want to give a shout out to our church, St. Pete Vineyard. We actually just did a workday. We just got back from working over the church all day today and doing some landscaping and and working inside the work church and cleaning up, so spring cleaning here, getting ready for Easter. Uh so with that being said, you know, we were uh we're a little all on the dirty side actually here.

SPEAKER_00 22:48

If you don't have a home church, please come and check us out. St. Pete Vineyard, 5000 10th Street North St. Petersburg, Florida.

SPEAKER_01 22:54

And that's also part of a little bit what we're talking about now. That Kelly's a pastor, you know, now we can navigate and talk to people about our faith, but also about we understand we can, you know, with his perspective, someone who's a business perspective, kind of collaborate all those together, and now we can go talk to people, have some interesting conversations, and uh see where this thing goes. So I'm happy to see where it goes, man. Brother, it's gonna be fun. Tune back in, None Better Podcast coming at you live.

SPEAKER_00 23:18

See you soon, guys.

SPEAKER_01 23:20

Well, go to our website, nonebetterpodcast.com. You'll uh we'll be on Spotify, Apple, iTunes, YouTube, uh, all the major uh social media platforms will be out on all those. So be looking for us. We have some new episodes, some clips. Don't be looking for Fozzie. You know, you love Fozzie, so get him on there and watch Fozzie do some fun stuff he's doing. So uh yeah, we're looking forward to this. It's gonna be fun. So uh uh until next time. Until next time. See ya. See you guys. If you think you got an interesting story and you want to be on our podcast, go to info at nonebetterpodcast.com and drop us a line. If your home is going to flood, here are some most common places: your toilet, your washing machine, your dishwasher, your ice maker lines. That's why homeowners are installing the water block. It's a hundred percent mechanical overflow safety device. No power, no batteries, it gets installed between the fixture or the appliance and the water supply line. You can set the water flow from 1.3 to 13 gallons, and if the water goes past its preset limit, boom, the water block shuts off, preventing a flood and damaging the property. So protect your floors, protect your house, and for God's sake, protect your wallet. Go to IMSTNA.com and protect yourself with the water block.