لماذا لا ننافس العالم؟ | مال شو (بودكاست) مع مصطفى قنديل

ماذا يحدث عندما تصل إلى القمة… ثم تخسر كل شيء؟

في هذه الحلقة، يروي مصطفى قنديل القصة التي لا تُروى عادةً.

من بناء Swvl والوصول إلى Nasdaq، إلى أصعب لحظات حياته الشخصية والمهنية، وكيف غيّرت تلك التجربة نظرته للنجاح، والطموح، والفشل.

كما يناقش معنا:

لماذا لا نبني شركات عربية تغيّر العالم؟
هل النجاح يحتاج إلى هوس؟
لماذا نحارب الناجحين؟
وهل يمكن أن تعود النهضة العربية من جديد؟

حلقة عن ريادة الأعمال… لكنها في الحقيقة عن الإنسان.

لا تنسوا الاشتراك في القناة لتصلكم جميع حلقات مال شو. مشاهدة ممتعة..

أجزاء الحلقة:
0:00 مقدمة
3:42 لماذا يبني للعالم؟
7:08 ضعف الطموح العربي
10:28 الـ self-fulfilling prophecy
13:20 الاشتغال على قد الفلوس
16:47 هل مصطفى رأسمالي؟
18:11 العاطفة في القرارات
25:48 التعليقات والغيرة على Swivel
27:36 دعم المنتج المحلي - درس Grab
46:04 مصطفى بدون Swivel - الأزمة الوجودية
55:38 الهوس بالنجاح وضريبته
1:05:11 لماذا يذكر الموت كثيراً؟
1:09:09 وفاة الأب وتشكيل الشخصية
1:14:32 قصة الأب والسرطان
1:16:10 الانهيار والعودة للصفر
1:21:42 لحظة التحول
1:25:00 تعريف السعادة
1:24:49 ضيف الجمهور - طاهر في Nasdaq
1:37:22 مصطفى والزواج
1:40:22 صلاح الدين وBaybars
1:41:24 هل النجاح يتطلب قسوة؟

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SPEAKER_04 0:01

An actor ballad, it's an Italian textella had the light and text and Kenya.

SPEAKER_02 0:19

The fun hard almost of anti chicken swivel.

SPEAKER_04 0:31

It's a very bad approach to like and ahead of not when I shall meet ahead. Skill me to ahead. I've done something. This will be my purpose. It's a self-fulfilling prophecy. I think it plays a big, big part. I understand the strategy to diversify the economies, actor minal oil businesses. This inspired a lot of people. I understand my privilege. And I'm very competitive with the hagawish. I have them asanohead, as through head, as of Azgarohead, Isa Adamanam Sbazihad, Adamaneman Ghir, Megal Had, Al Adamad, Taban, Akit Ferrehdi, Akit Git Al Niskir, Adam Shmalek. That's an example that's making my nation, my religion, my everything proud. It's such a position of I'd be so proud. That's not an issue. What did we do? Sitting Virat only an alpha low and swivel so can salving as well. And I think I've been very lucky. I found my passion, I found whether it's swivel or ghirha or I found my my calling. I want to go and I want to die at some point, knowing that I've done my best and I succeeded, hopefully.

SPEAKER_02 19:24

And swivel aurha.

SPEAKER_04 19:58

Shirk went to zero. At that point in time at a and I'd like to consider Agbaruasrawum Shavy and Tanakhinsana. What about your Russian sana? When Tanagatal had the let's say Akhtar Ashers and Tanakhum Talko, and the fume co out of there. What when Tanakhins and Sif in terms of sif and the data sif is very type maybe not the possibility in the swivel to camel versus Namit Camelik theory, I mean a test infam, so Mustafa I can hand the moment of reckoning, a moment of realization that Mustafa Mustafa can do higher valic lawana Saraha I felt that I'm nothing without swimming. I felt that my entire life purpose you can swim. I'm proud of it. Move on at some point. And Omri has said another move on. This is my life purpose. It's my baby. Okay, I mean it's very existential. And nana and mean swivel, I have to make it work. It's very unhealthy. But maybe that obsession is needed. You need to obsess about things. Maybe in the most unhealthy way possible. It's an unhealthy obsession. Maybe unhealthy obsessions is what drives greatness. Maybe. I don't know. But Samsurmas and Hadza Elon Musk is unhealthily obsessed. Maybe Mark Zuckerberg is unhealthily obsessed with Facebook. It's an obsession. If you just keep at it, if you just keep persisting, it works out somehow. It's a rule of nature. If I'm unhealthy obsessed about swivel, yeah. Munkin, I'm high game swivel for sure. Definitely. But swivel has to be part of my story. I'm part of Swivel's story. I just always want to, unless they fire me somehow, and I just want to I love it. I love it so much. I just it's my first ball.

SPEAKER_02 23:52

I've noted some meta kazamarra and into mahou's binaga.

SPEAKER_04 24:32

What's an triangle? Sorry, Lana had false. A great family, great social life, great health, great work. You just cannot. There are only 24 hours a day. You have to pick. What are your priorities? I still have show like excessively. I stand haggard out of the ordinary, I stand haggard that's on a global scale, then you know. And if you thought that I said no judgment to anyone, could I have different priorities in their lives? And I very early on understood that. I miss my time with my family, for whom you have to make a decision. I understood that early, maybe I'm wrong, maybe my view on life is wrong. I just again no judgments on anyone. Okay, 95% of my life is what I do, 5% is everything else. I was okay with it, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 27:02

Shaker Sang.

SPEAKER_04 27:04

Shakell Sangh. It's okay. And that's why they're building something that's never been built before. If you have an obsession, if you have a if there's something you're passionate about, where you should draw the line. It's something, it's a journey has to find their own what makes them happy and satisfied and proud. It's a good byproduct, it's a great byproduct, it's a great incentive. So, in our case, we're willing to work for it and that will be rewarded at some point. As long as I'm comfortable, but I'm not going to be able to get the bandi, one three day, as a white product, I'm fluze. But successful by the time. At least I want to make sure they get rewarded as well. They played a much bigger role than I could think of in my success, in swivel success. It would be very unfair of me in Lamatigi. If there is a finish line or there is any materialistic gains, we should all be rewarded. I had to contribute. And I believe in alignment of interest. Let's align our interests for this to be successful. Why not we share it? And then our interests need to be aligned for the greater success of this. Uber and the hamster infeme. Grab it Uber. As an Uber my faith to compete now. They ended up in Homash Tarub. So culture the F Sade, who I get very proud of Swade. Then Swade, they support Luke Homabishufu, Lao Hagem Sodi, and Adam Lagnab. And also asked them. Seven as well, and Lisa Minaswiv is Tao Sila, I'm sorry. I shall not read in a half in the Talf and Tomasri. Actually, they look down to be hasn't poorer quality in the Tawash. We have seen her gouthand. We get a Ness Mopsutelumetum Shabby. Fellow Maty Menmaster, not even henna and nestle how I licked with the Bicterius Bacterial, I'm sure. One of the shoulders. The culture Matina or Kulina and Irifena. Probably chances with that you force even a doctor. I shouldn't use negative Hush and Toler Negar. So Andrew El Codron, Aramandish. Greater purpose and how Lawana Lao Ba fee circa la swivel pig beta, let's say a million dollar, or by fee, may as I must swivel, Columbia.

SPEAKER_02 44:00

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SPEAKER_04 45:18

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SPEAKER_02 55:02

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SPEAKER_04 55:08

Oh. And I could uh tellin Sabina, just canu canu sabin on every level. And the chances tight of getting out of there, yeah. November, whatever. Couldn't to be tool, could ticker in the only rational decision, very honestly, was to shut it down, call it off, and say raise your hand and say. Let's draw a line, the hassle, the reactors, how do we make it an opportunity? Which we can talk about then. The most difficult part into Kamelu, either Temelu, Totholfuk, Teminum Sharife, or Kalim creditors of completely out. This particular moment was very different than any moment I had before. We've been through very difficult times before. And a lot of motivation. Impossible situation. And the adults and hamlet, stars aligned in every entire factor many law. That's how I think. Alhamdulillah managed to get out of it. We managed to solve most of it. Now I think is the happiest time I've ever been in. Talavana winter, two and a flon. Fabioli Hamdu Lenan Magic, I shall Matar Schmike, when Nestul Lanakonawa is a very good thing. I'm not doing this for people, I'm doing it for myself. Very critical of myself, uh behold myself to high standards. And nana and the aila, and this hub or I know they would die for me. It's very rare. You expect them in. I need some time. I can take a break. Why I can take a breath for some time. And that's giving me a lot of peace. I'm so grateful. Diamond has ever I take a moment for myself.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:30

A date agreement with Shakilit Shoksetak.

SPEAKER_04 1:12:28

Garitnez kulisana we remember Asa and D. This was he was very different. Lemakuntena can be known. Can start face master in need, that can bad harb Tetasoon, can Santa Basabi. U Talab in Witnailis Male, Ashen can be Hebben Smail, can be Shaggy Ismail. But the Lurah Ismale fell, U I Tin Sena Smiley, I could smile, the Nest Hebu Hobroyama Kurz dead, Katanis bit again, kid. Fair was very successful. Fanam own a toilet to an diamond and thezbetegri or toilet to eight don't even kid. They were more than family. Best Tavan, and ski obeyed to be and you had uh just normally. If you wonder why my comp where is my competitiveness or where is my aggression comes from, is because I've always in my mind been conditioned, you know, I like I don't want to go back to this. This very difficult time. I always want to be the best, the most successful. We never go back to this. From me Saraha, she channeled into a good yeah, I think that's a one of two ways. It's a very, very sad uh turn of events, yeah. Yeah, I mean if called the situation Robinov deacon opportunity and hell mushkella, the one if you solve it great. In my very humble experience, Anna could actor for us with pivotal moments. Pivotal moments come when nobody cares. When nobody cares means price is low. But if you have the conviction, if you have the belief, you can benefit from it. I think as a company, as an organization, we always had the DNA and we have to do that. I would say, quit Basula, yeah, and he's quit and whatever they want. So you'll not be surprised. If you just resist a bit more, if you just do a little bit, you have a disproportionately higher uh success chance when I really believe in it. And I'm in fiancé to quit at the first sign of trouble.

SPEAKER_01 1:20:39

I usually used to really look that I looked down to see four must be a little bit more than a little bit.

SPEAKER_04 1:23:11

When I just made a conscious decision for that, knowing that it's not uh glamorous, yeah. But maybe happiness is not in choosing the glamour. I don't know. Um just finding out. But it's definitely my most peaceful time. Will it last? To be honest, then my competitive side, my ambitious side, and uh, I'm sneaky, and I'm gonna go to the house. I get too comfortable, but comfort is not is the enemy of uh progress in my mind. Uh if I don't want to get too comfortable, best definitely. This was a much needed downtime that I had. Now I need to go out of this comfort and conquer the world again. I'm I feel I need to do this for everyone, not only for me. That's my life's mission. I want to do this, I want to conquer the world, I want to build the first company that goes from the east to the west in a real way. We went and we were the market leaders in every market we went to, and we had to retreat. But that doesn't that's not the end of it. That doesn't mean it ended there. Maybe everyone thought it ended there, but Senas will be very surprised in the matter of that. Will we make it success or no? We should, and inshallah, I hope.

SPEAKER_00 1:28:22

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SPEAKER_04 1:31:16

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SPEAKER_00 1:35:57

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SPEAKER_04 1:36:19

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SPEAKER_02 1:41:30

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SPEAKER_04 1:42:21

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SPEAKER_00 1:42:28

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