We Built What?

The IDE is dead. Now what?

Augment Code Episode 6

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Chris Kelly has had a front row seat to every major shift in software engineering, from GitHub to New Relic to Salesforce to Fire Hydrant. His take on where we are now: this one is different. Not faster horses. A completely different kind of work.

In this episode, Chris and host Emma Webb get into why the job of a software engineer has fundamentally changed from working the factory line to building the factory itself, what that means for the engineers who loved the craft of writing code, and why good software design matters more than ever in an agentic world.

They also get into why the IDE is fading, how Cosmos came to be, what it looks like to build an entire SDLC around agents rather than bolt AI onto an existing one, and why engineering leaders are being asked to do the hardest thing possible: technical change, organizational change, and keep the lights on, all at the same time.

If you're trying to wrap your head around what AI native engineering actually looks like in practice, this one's for you. Have someone you want us to interview or a topic you want us to cover? Let us know on X or LinkedIn.