小林武史 x 櫻井和寿 「みんな嘘を信じちゃうの？」わからんからの手紙 4通目

■わからんからの手紙 4通目
「今日全然知らない人に、羊の鳴き声が地球温暖化の原因って
いきなり言われたんです。みんな嘘とか信じちゃうんですかね。
知ることが大事っていうけど、知らなきゃ良かったことの方が多すぎやしませんか？
そんな時、自分を信じて、自分らしく生きよう、とかよく言いますよね。
でも自分らしく生きていると、その自分を周りから期待されるようになって
いつのまにかその期待に応えるように生きてしまう。
だけどその自分らしさを捨てると、みんなから忘れられてしまう気がして。
そんな感じで誰とでも繋がることって本当にいいことなんでしょうか。
そんな生き方って、本当に自由なんでしょうか。」

■出演者
小林武史
櫻井和寿

■番組紹介
誰かが⾔ったことを鵜呑みにしない。⾃分の頭で考える。
そうやって⾃分の中の違和感に気づいて、その声を⼤切にする。
そうやって⽣きる、１頭の⽺「わからん」からの⼿紙をもとに、
⼩林武史と櫻井和寿が⾃由⾃在に語り合う番組。

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SPEAKER_03 0:29

Hi, kyo no vakarang Karano Tengamiwa Kunakanjina Tamas. Kyo Zenze Shiranaitoni, Sujinunakiwega, Ondan Kanogin te ikinariwa tandes Mina Usotoka Shinjichan deskane. Shirukotona Daiji Teyu Kereto Shirana Kayuka Takotonohoga Usyashimaska The Sonatoki Jibun Shinjite Jimunlash Kikyo Toka Minna. Demo Jibunash Kikterto, Sono Jimuo, Maharika Kitaisararyonate, Itunomanika, Sono Kita Nikotaru ni Ikteshma.

SPEAKER_02 1:09

Takado, sonno Jibunlasso Steruto Minakarabasar Teshima Yona Kimoshte Sonna Kanjide Taruto demosaru kotot te honto ni ikotonandeshoka sonna ikata te honton andeshoka Toyu takami Fake Toyuka Kanjimas fake unus nonka hegaitoka Sunotamai Hegovake on auto mot the more to run is a hunton janai dinna mot that is good.

SPEAKER_03 2:11

So you none to you took the jibun lash cook to mushroom. Demo ko another hotos hoy kotoga Omoshiro yone de Hanachik stake hototar karah so the moshiroinato hanashikod karat, co torampusangan co dennoy atundis which amountonian rusobackat ano bookarishimiter hotondo touched a concu she mister waked or nine decadomo you tmashta. Madame son of concu to free show more much dash de Hatsunenda any Darekan Juning a connahido not de Aristotle Takedo, J So Zenzenson Notonanda Tino, Sonaman Nisan and Chotamagrani Moshto Sonota you Statson Dayodash de Semitakon eh, Caro.

SPEAKER_02 3:57

Motemu dani Yimadani to ka. Jintaga ava karte kto, ta you coto ado cara, on dan kato de son tekina gay in de scra te naikano seva oito Muka mo de tari Masocho nozon de shima.

SPEAKER_03 4:21

Nan then soro nozo nozoming a deco. Nozumi goto. Gin tekina mondi de Janaho e not the nozone jananda.

SPEAKER_02 4:36

Nan the gin takina gin tekina coto de gain the one dancka naruto no zom e disonette. Nozomo edes on it. Yeah, nozoma nozo nozone Nozoma Kakusha booky you're a monda ide more yeah motto so no cook tent to mundai de kion wa ta kunatari matai so ta you said some arga scranaker sorega freya fetali koshter tuna koto de soreno koto.

SPEAKER_03 5:24

Skinakara zero genite.

SPEAKER_02 5:31

Sono Toshini kto son nocoto kanjimasio nanka. Ah, cono ningenga tskida nanikaga n tsuno ondo kionag ter no comushine, to moke do mo ni hond de mo so go inakano honi, sh co get a ton date sina mitoyuka me tete comakon ne basho de sankatanso de tari, shte kionga taka con Ija Omucha ohokaito Basho nyote. Midu basonio te Matoshoniotte so no Toshio me tete, so omotashima kimacha wakaruke dogoto.

SPEAKER_03 6:18

So hobo so kungano Kazonio te ne parisono. Shote, you don't deco or dashte rut the short takini or cotter to you noa, a bari, but this yo.

SPEAKER_02 6:40

Hi saco Tosini ikte kono nanny. She hun sugi shakinaka e ik tete shounga kta minna arjani so ko decorata kanika nanka. Demo saigen la kwi a pariko shohi shite not to shohi of shai, given the eh cotka de so you need sank so dash tari my runa so you he machine I can do shohi motto zoda is tai nice and niceo k shotoka the you kotobaka sokiana. So, so uh so baka nijo de sunani henkash to kid kotonita uke de tari tayo stali hannoshtari shtei ikube kitato mutelchi so no genda chaka tokoni psychinosorab, de serumono natikruto. So koso, sana ni se kaiga huono se kaio ni umot chaigachi nanjanaika naato mote. Nakara, i joon yea henkany tai suga uskun up the yonakanyo de adu beki datomosi motta e my deardu beki dato umot chansa, ne?

SPEAKER_03 8:26

O kotoba de cigar, dakaramond's de so sta energio ska son deoga i kini boda and yaper feta kotona, eh? Nakarasono i jo te you kotovao haste some monosugo y energyo tskaoyo not de kitakotonitaiste konoma fitzgete you yo na maskonakum kizashiga de kita e de Swan Taish the mean nanga Korava dosh the mon that they tokolonga, and I meat at a monson no catsu ega, no le sangashi Takado Konoma Ts get e Sarkoso Inacanohoni Tarasa then Sonna energiska and Ion atonimo, or calling Kika Moshinagra Tokyo, Tokato Najona, a bit gotonto trep taik the mira de inday kotona ka sojanakte Toshinonakanimo, per so you mid or mi cote ik kototo ka energim sochutonchu kanga to kane, de my maskato. So epimanku mot scru the nijunankang, tanaka yusan toka bi paitatumsa. Chikakaraya parinaukunen kagete tai se ki stare shokubuts no kasaki mitainam, seitanto ka sekyo konotan chikan eki kin chijon paryagate, mahioskete ga to pari chikuno sankasikur carayuto mashaku o queteru tanjiba bokwash terug, eh? Watomayoroshio.

SPEAKER_02 10:24

Kataya, so he matakunai Muto Mukashijo monji dayoka. No kiko mutatan jes.

SPEAKER_03 10:40

Junkkam mitana monot monoswokunangai stand. Tada so mojoi traut sangan eh, I at you haigo nidwa, kekosom kiristo ky no shinja to you kata katama oi tino sterukato mokusa. Sono stuta chiga, on the unkapestenite you do ste no, sonza inga sonani seeno kiko kaira to coming out screen atas Mono da Kara To you tokurkara ano sonda ni ningenga, so e nanda tokayuno ma ukunga mashimi da nayo na kanga mo arunda to mutar in the sevo. Kis to kill the manemikimononga itonamaka de Tush can it chigaw energy not sky gata ni nanka koshiftongakavate Skinakto Monaka you be Sashka kniwa song in a kanjiva Saite demo hi to the scare more to the I couldn't necker Jibunashirute you go to de Sorko Marikarkitais are at the shima Gibunlassa.

SPEAKER_02 12:21

Hm Mida O motorish musu Sole Ma Bokaris Toto Sh de Mista Chiren no wita wta kini, set tokuga nakunan nayona eto Mikatao shio Mita set tokrikuga dea Tatazumaya Hatsgen de Yoto mo kedo no se katos Ichi sonoshimintoa Narukivunte Mono Nakushte Ichte I na km Nanni demohano shit haioste Massakin Hanasto Sana chosina keto. Hm so some given the One Jibunante Mono So the Cono cheateristoni Naganaka Ho to Kandita Tomokara.

SPEAKER_03 13:23

Some Gibnante Arnantomanite Mamina Gibun Sakash Stadi Jibun oh though Show n is the morano cutte hotterisa. Kiko Kadani Natter is the oitomokara. So, letterundatomokasa. Jibunante artomanite, Tinoa Sono Gibunno Soro none on the skin. Jibun no akumita book you on the cara no she is in a book goes cala.

SPEAKER_02 14:07

Sound the steo Janste Hotokini. Dokumadega Jas or the Jibun no tenanuka Dukuma de Jibunotenakuna. Set nice atelus. Sonavji Janai Tato ni jibunte yumonoga Sonza Silun da Sonokaradanakare kanga. Kikuson kuka ah jibunte mono nine that te yukotoni or mo Ikitsuk te you Sono episode Sunagarino nakani Jibungaru Sono Sonotori thanpa donaga. So Takajan ah, atoso Bokunarini kuka mi tana kotokang skin eh Gohan Taber Janiska. Kore demo, Sono Gohanwa, Tabete Tara, Jibuni Nano de Sune, Eo ni nap de Saibo Nina Wakelapara. So Hm Soriga, Wakariasu come Nanka. Sto de atemo, Tabemono de atemo, you wa Jibunto Tsunaga Monoca, Zembu Jibuni Nat takede. But Deta Mono, Jibunto, Chigaumono ni natte kukedo Ujuni Natiko. Uchunata. Hai said, Hiro kuyeva. Shiru. So you junka, junka. Tsunani, tsenagari athayo shia de no ko Jibun no karada o to Nanika. Nagarate. Omo.

SPEAKER_03 16:30

Sne no gaksha sang touch it to take a dog. Menomine hataking at eh? Ino socono hatake no mono shobete, I no hatakyawa is it another karate. Sono tabete sono givuno nakani. So t you Ma tokayate Sono Nantun Jikano Nagarano Nakade Tokaragako Jibuno Pred Prenari Ritanari Domika Hukano Yoso Tosu Goku Karande Idunakani Sorega Sizento Detecuru Mita in Akani, Dagaranaka, Sakini Sokoni Arumo Naka Nazut Mita Nayona Yano Image Termarun Dagano. Image Unacani Sukuno ni Armono ni Jibimatada Sorio Site Territo Mat Site Dondonusonaku Nagaran U Nakani Ijibumat Isasete Moratter Isa Moratter Kekato Sto Nanikano Yaku Hata Setiruti Utunan Dana Tomu Kedong. Ato Yuk Deincarnation to Ka Marekari Mita Nakotomo. Zaki Sakurako, high setsuchanika, Vukura mo Mukura no Karadang, Nihon Tokata Shindala, Casoni Natemuko Uchuni Ko Taikini, Shapatikud, the Nanka Surega do Tamashimita Muno Moska Dokatina Yukaru Kotakado, Moshika Sh the Suraka the Tamashimita Mununga Ketchup Tuka Kotsuna Tsunangerukoton Dicta Tosh tema, Umarekaru Tokoro Madewa, Chotushio Boitemo, Jisan Darekano, Mamekutamin deskedamata umar shunka ni kide nyuasureteshima, te mariteku teorakotom arut te arashiga at them Surama, Sura Umarekari to ishodanate Yuyoni. Shindara, brakao teukoto, te omeboka motor kedom. So ya te kanatikto tokuma de bo, tutsangangat teru no gibun te monomon you na mononi cook. Thaez henkashinangala, it till nangar no nacano. Hitokumada you mama sakim you took Yakuari me tana monokalone that's no sakura pokarisoto Yakuari Toshte ko yukoto Engita you no tomata engiter to make a machine but producer toka praya toca my don't uh touch about them. Sarava Shakainonaka deva to Saru Koto Sakan, Yakuariwa Cuny kibun the Naka Sortin now I shall touch the Yaksuku spas to I shot Sula Yaksuku. Yaksuku Hmono Akono Simone Kameh Jibunasan Discone Then Jibun Temono and I Kihonwa to Hanashi Tato Mono Saibo Data Nandan can kid in Yaku to Hanash Dashi. Jibun that Tanish Kister no more Tab Henk Kashinaga Dakado Nakazuto Jim that Nishero Kotomo Did no Yoni Henkashinaga Dakadana Tomoko Marai Ida Takedo Yak Sukto Yuka Mila Hokanoshoto Yoru Ishan Ichter Nakada Kokoya Pari Yaku Hatashtiko Mitaina Kakono Muchata Mitaina Mono T you Kotonskone.

SPEAKER_02 20:48

Ah, the Nakachupaimas said, Scared de Midabah, Saki, that's no Jibunantenaiot, Zembutsanaga, Kono Yononakawa, Uchu Adict. They you toraikata. Mostotwa Shakai Nonakade eto Kurasameniwa. Yapati, Shakai Jintoshteno, Yakwari Buntanga, Sorizo, at de Ma Toguni Kai Shato Kanareba, Masmasu Motto, Yakwari Bun Tanga de Sono Yakwari Bun Tango, Yaritzukte ikunakade, Jibun Lasah Teumono, Jibunde Gishi, Matava, Istoni Monij Kishte Mora Hoga Shakaino Nakade Krashti Ktameniwa Shiko Toshti Knakadaba Secashiasu Kana To Moymashtakedo Shiko Totonaio Tokat Dene Yokar Hana Sid Kedo Temo Tabu Wakara Kuniwa Wakara N Ya Zekara Sono pianista. Umio Mita Tokini. Sotani didaconata Sanostoi Hune Sotonomoto Kisekayo. Mita Mita in that too. Istoga not the kite. Sono Hune Nanakareshka Ichte night pianista to Hanashio step. Nakas Sono Hanashio Kita Kinisano Pianista suit Kukuruga you didn't sune. She only ordered a solution can a kido Yamirun. So she said Sonazato Birugachina. Shooting a me and I ungaked them. Nanda Kono Majiniva Ikimono Mo Jibunga Ishoka Moto and I Michigali Birugari Sonatoko de Kira and I Solid Conohuneno began Skidachi Sokote Ichteiku Onga Kona Shikuyo Kobiga Stamasona Pianista ne you Ego Minagara Makate Sono pianista no sonzo. Umio me temas anete chatamit.

SPEAKER_03 29:50

Sono Motomoto send you means that crash oh Zachri to go hakanoph, European Tokunia Pari Kunia or Soraria Major Kita America. I told you height there, Sorimada sends you me at the Zim Herasheta Remo Moski Honsoto Hidoiko Tomo yatati Nakadi Imayasu talba aboriginito American American to come Zim Hatan Dakado Kakni Ten and Kinembaskay Nanga Taizinishima should anjo booketarium Dakerado New Zealand Sukuma de Osarete Toshikana Tesima Temae de Orika is auto stellinal comana Sorangan Umaki Ikoto Stellundusio Mufetewa Iduke so you could say Mita Mono Quinito Ste Kang Itali Sekaiko Kangako Shihon Shugito Machinichoto Mita soin anokashin Icato So ya te Sekaio Tonto Tonto Magro Baroni Steker Nangar Atta Kamachin Ikeo Sorini Youitsoko Mother's Tomo Motomoto send you mean Maurizo Tachino Nanka coisen high to Nanaka so you so you can go to you it's no casual Nakasono pianist on to sort of Taihiga Kukangakado Sono Funeno Nakasu Nakani donka pari co mytima American Koto Martinsoka Marco e got the key dash to this nut so you could catch it mask on uh to the cigar to the cigar and could not this by the manka psychic no book to like on a cigar heavy bank the youth uh bank bando the youth one title cara pono karato at a magic mammoth uh you commentary cara you ho kakete a cono title in at the mask cara, you can't be a little bit of a money.