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Can You Really Have It All? Marriage, Money & Mindset | The Winegards Ep. 1
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Welcome to the very first episode of The Winegards 🍷
Hosted by husband-and-wife duo Eric and Alexis Winegard, this podcast is all about real conversations on marriage, business, family, and everything in between.
In this episode, we dive into:
- Our emotional gender reveal experience
- Navigating pregnancy while running a business
- The differences between men and women in relationships
- What it really means to be a “provider.”
- Ego, ambition, and building a life together
- Can you truly have it all — family, success, and fulfillment?
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Hello everybody. This is The Wine Guards featuring Alexis Weingard and my husband Eric Weingard. Here will we be we will be chatting about all things relationships, family, being in business together, and I think just other things that other couples or maybe business partners deal with on the day-to-day. So this is officially our first episode. So I say we just give it a shot and see what comes out.
SPEAKER_01Okay. I mean, we've been on podcasts before, but they were kind of like ghost podcasts because we were just filming content.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_01So I think we should talk about the gender reveal.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Here is my take of the gender reveal. So for anybody out there listening, you know, Lexus is five months pregnant, just about.
SPEAKER_00I'll be just about six months because I'm I'm 22 weeks tomorrow.
SPEAKER_01Wow. Okay, yeah, yeah. Okay, cool. So five and a half months. All right. And by the way, she's feeling crazy kicks right now. Like you're feeling kicks as we speak, which is awesome. And uh yeah, so I mean, you know, the gender reveal was awesome. You know, for me growing up with such such a little family to be building a family now is is obviously very special to me. But you're not someone like you're a tough cookie, you don't cry very often, very often. Maybe once or twice a year, but it's gotta be like really emotional. But you were shook when we were cutting that cake.
SPEAKER_00I think it was before cutting the cake because it was all of a sudden the wave of like holy shit, this is real now. Where I'm actually gonna because you get to plan a little bit more once you know the gender, right? Talking about how's the nursery gonna be decorated, names, um all those different things. It um I feel like knowing the gender made it more real for me. So right before we cut it was when I had my holy shit moment.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_00And that was when I kind of had my one out of the top once of the two times a year crying spells.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, you were you're a little nervous actually, right beforehand. I could see your nerves breaking down a little bit, and then and then you like because we went to cut the cake. So the way we did this, the way we did the gender reveal, we were kind of like at this at this nice bougie place, so we couldn't do the pyrotechnics or like what's the other thing that they they do like confetti or shit.
SPEAKER_00Confetti, right?
SPEAKER_01This is kind of like a nice place in uh boca routine. So we did it, we did it the classy way. We got a $700 cake or whatever, right? So when I went to go help cut the cake, dude, your hands were shaking. You couldn't contribute to the cake cutting at all.
SPEAKER_00It was the fondant.
SPEAKER_01The fondant?
SPEAKER_00That's like the thick layer on the outside that made the the design, the stripes. It was harder for me to cut into it. It was hard.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, the cake was rock solid.
SPEAKER_00It was the fondant, that's what it's called.
SPEAKER_01You know what's funny? When when I when I cut into it, I had to like really muscle it, like I saw the pink way before you. How so?
SPEAKER_00Because I don't think you would have instantly cried like that if it was blue cake.
SPEAKER_01Oh, I did. I just broke down quick.
SPEAKER_00And then I'm like over here, kind of not confused, but I'm like, I you know what I was looking for? I didn't think the cake was gonna be a color. I thought the the filling frosting. So when I was looking at it and I'm like, I I don't, I'm like, I I don't see blue or pink because I was looking for the frosting, because that's how I've seen it in videos, is where the frosting has been pink or blue. And it took me a second to process. I was like, oh shit, the cake's pink.
SPEAKER_01Oh, really? It didn't just hit you.
SPEAKER_00No, because I was looking at all the videos I've seen with a cake reveal, it's it is the more of them I've seen have been the frosting has been one or the other. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01I mean, you know me, I'm I'm emotional, but I usually only show it to you, right? Like I'm going down TikTok watching a a dog being mistreated or something, or in a in a shelter for way longer than it needs to be. But I was uh I let it out there, boy. I think I started crying and I couldn't get the tears out of my eyes for probably four or five hours. It was emotional. I gave everybody a hug at the gender reveal. I made sure I gave every single person a hug.
SPEAKER_00Don't get it twisted. Eric is the more emotionally in tune one out of the two of us. It's not that I'm it just takes a lot. I feel the emotions, but it just takes me a little bit longer to actually have a tear. So it's not that I'm not feeling the same things that you're feeling, like I feel it more inside. But to get um a tear to spark, that's what takes me a little bit more.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. Well, when we got married, you cried. When you had to do what's it called, like the first talk or something. What's it called? Oh, when we give vows. The first talk.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. Yeah. So exchanging vows.
SPEAKER_01You got emotional there.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, it's like the lead up, like right before, because then it's real for me. Yeah. Because you're really good at first, you know, and this is actually, I think, one of the big differences between our personalities. Like you always ask me things like, Do you see it? Do you see it? Like when we're talking about our futures or things like that. And I always respond with once it's real to me, then it's real. So like it becomes real to you. I think whatever the instance is, having a baby, doing the vows, getting married, I think it becomes real to you a lot sooner than it becomes real to me. And I usually feel it in that moment, like right there. Because you know, like so many things get talked about that never end up happening. And I think that maybe that's where I get um not like a delayed emotional reaction, but I think because like I wait for the actual thing to whatever's discussed to happen, and then that's when emotions are like, oh, okay, the the thing said thing is happening.
SPEAKER_01Interesting.
SPEAKER_00I I've never I just articulated that right now.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, and I've never this is brand new.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I just articulated it because I was thinking about it. You know, like I I used to be such a dreamer and I love and I have such futuristic goals and mindsets and stuff like that. But I even say this to you about just business and everything like that. I don't usually get ahead of I'm like, don't I always say like yep, but it'll be real to me when it's real. Like I don't like to get overly excited until it's boom happening in the moment.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, that's it. That's interesting. Maybe well, maybe I'm more of a dreamer or visionary, right? So maybe, maybe that's just I used to be like that.
SPEAKER_00I think I've just turned into a serious realist.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. Well, no, I think I think I think reality is is what you make of it. It's like, you know, so it's like, you know, I've always been 250 pounds. I've been 250 pounds for 10 years. It's like, it's like if you set your mind, like like if I wanted to be 210 pounds, I could, right? So it's like, even though I'm 250 pounds now, you know, if I went on a exercise diet, like intense journey to lose, let's say 40 pounds, like, you know, I I think the way I look at it is no, no, I've made made it up in my mind that I'm gonna lose this weight. So I'm already thinking, oh, won't it be cool when I can wear smaller pants, or won't it be cool when I can, you know, wear rather than a 2XL, I can wear like an XL shirt, right? So I don't know. I think I think in my head, like when I talk about business and I talk about us making a billion-dollar company, I think I've made up my mind that I'm gonna do it. So so to me, it's already real.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, our brains we we need both. So that's why.
SPEAKER_01You need a billion dollars in the bank for it to be real.
SPEAKER_00I don't know what that is, I think it's just upbringing and path, life path.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, because things didn't always work out for you. Yeah. Yeah. So they didn't work out for me either. But maybe that's the difference between a man and a woman. I can maybe I just feel like I can take more control than you can.
SPEAKER_00And actually, and this is this kind of goes into the topic of pregnancy and having a family and growing a family. I would agree because you know, when you become a mom, you know, how many people do we know where the moms either totally just don't have their career anymore because they're a mom, or to some extent of it, it changes no matter what, how how much involvement they have in their career. Now, yeah, I know that there's like variables such as having a nanny or family helping, babysitters, etc. But for most women, it's it it changes a hundred percent like when they have kids, depending on what you know, like what they're if they want to have a career. So that definitely could play a part into it, is yeah, you're you know, like when I take my pregnancy leave for however long. Again, I don't even know what this looks like. I don't know how long I'm gonna take. I don't know when I come back, what that looks like yet, until I actually do it. But yeah, like technically you do have more control because you know, you don't have to breastfeed. You don't, you know, you're not the one that's pumping the milk. Uh, there's actually like physical things that a female can do with a baby that the dad can't.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, there's definitely some physical things going on with you. Your boobs are huge right now. Yeah, they're gigantic. Yeah, there's a lot of changes going on, and it's cool because um I wasn't, you know, go on that topic. I wasn't sure if I'd be attracted to a pregnant woman or not. I think no, I was I didn't know. Like, I know some guys have fetishes for it, some guys hate it. I think I just love you even more.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, that's real love.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, seeing your little belly pop up.
SPEAKER_00That's love, not lust, I would say, you know.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I don't mind the changes, you know. I mean, like I'm buying more dresses, I'm not even gonna bother trying on any jeans. There's no point.
SPEAKER_01I love how so we got to go to uh PBD's house, Patrick Bett David's house, uh a couple weekends ago on a Saturday. And one of, I would consider him a friend now, Kira, and a client now, which is awesome. He's he apparently you're going like this to your belly. And he pulled me aside. He goes, Is she pregnant? Like, what's she doing?
SPEAKER_00I'm like, Imagine if you're just like, no, she's famished. Just starving.
SPEAKER_01I'm like, yeah, dude. My wife's not just rubbing her belly. Um, but no, this is so new for me, you know, but it's but it's so fun, you know, pregnancy. It really is. Like, because it's all it's all it's all part of the journey, right? It's like I don't just want my kid to be 18 years old and it's done. I genuinely want to enjoy every every phase that's five months pregnant, seven months pregnant, the child being a week old, the child being three weeks old, because all you ever hear parents talk about is how fast it goes. And I genuinely want to slow down time as much as I can and and try to really soak in these these moments, you know. Um what else do we did we do recently? Went to a wedding last weekend.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, the last few weeks have been a blur, honestly. Only because so much has happened so quickly. It was SLS. No, we went to the Miami Heat Spurs game. Yeah, then SLS, um, which is a leader sales leadership conference. And then I got sick. Yeah, that's where I'm also like time is just so you got a little sick. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01And dealing with me sick probably makes you a little sick.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, everybody knows when you're sick.
SPEAKER_01It's dude, I get I mean, I was sick though. Here's what I have decided.
SPEAKER_00I have it and then like for like the next seven days, I'm not 100%. I'm not 100%. I wasn't, I wasn't a hundred percent. No, no, no. If I got a dollar for every time I heard that, yeah.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, but I I love the feeling of 100%.
SPEAKER_00I love it. I know. Well, who doesn't?
SPEAKER_01I want to be 100, you know.
SPEAKER_00I know.
SPEAKER_01I mean, it just goes to show you. I you know, you know what a part of that part of this is is when I had that heart issue. I had this heart issue, and it would only rear its ugly head maybe once a year. And basically my heart would go into AFib. It would uh be in a regular heartbeat, and it would only last for maybe 72 hours. Made me a little lethargic. I didn't feel great, but it wasn't debilitating at all. And I got the vaccine in 2021.
SPEAKER_00I think that's when we got it, yeah.
SPEAKER_01And then boom, a month later, my heart just went to permanent AFib. And when my heart went into permanent AFib, it just made me feel incredibly lethargic. You know, it it feels like you just ran a marathon all the time. Walking up the stairs is hard. There was a couple times I like fainted and caught myself. So you so I just got used to living for about nine months. I just got used to living, feeling like crap.
SPEAKER_00That was crazy.
SPEAKER_01Right? Yeah. Now, fortunately, fast forward, I got a procedure and it went away, and they said there's a 99% chance it never comes back now. But I remember after, and I finally got my heart back, and it took, just so you know, it took a few months to get like back back. So now I think that's a big part of it. It's like I don't like I just love being healthy so much, and I just love having energy so much. So it's like when I feel when I feel sick, I think it just I think because of that, uh, it magnifies it even more. And but but on a flip side, I'm even happier on my healthy days now because I appreciate you can't do anything without good health.
SPEAKER_00I mean, I I understand the frustration. I just like wanted to give you a little joke about your man colds and thank goodness they are only man colds, but I still get stuff done.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I still do stuff, I take care of business, I prioritize what's you know, whether it's sales calls or sales meetings, whatever I gotta do. I keep the money coming in like a real man.
SPEAKER_00That's a man, yeah.
SPEAKER_01You want to talk, you want that's a great topic to talk about.
SPEAKER_00I will always give credit where credit's due. Of course. I always talk about that.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I mean, I think that's a cool topic to get into.
SPEAKER_00What? What's a man?
SPEAKER_01Yeah, what's a man? Like what's I feel like, you know, I feel like the lines have gotten blurred, you know, recently, you know, and I'm not even talking about I don't care if you paint your fingernails or not. That's not even what I'm talking about. Because you can paint your fingernails or not.
SPEAKER_00You mean like societal expectations?
SPEAKER_01Yeah, yeah. What's what's a man's duty? What's a man's job?
SPEAKER_00I mean, my parents are very traditional, as you know. I would say they're even more traditional than you and me because my mom does a lot more domestically at the house. And I love my dad.
SPEAKER_01You order Uber Eats.
SPEAKER_00Well, I I I I'm working every day too, which I love. That's a part of me. Um, I think traditionally, there's a reason why it works, right? And so, oh yeah, we're putting it on me now? Cool. Um there's a reason why traditional roles work in relationships. And so what my parents are like traditionally is like, I don't want to say it's old-fashioned, but there's just been so many modern redefin, like there's been new definitions of things, right? Like we were talking about how the word narcissism gets overused, even though there are, of course, are narcissists out there. Like, there's just modern times have redefined things. And I I revert back to the traditional role of male and female in society, which is like the man, what is the man? That that goes back to that question. Well, I think the man is supposed to be safe. Like, I think a safe place for like um, you know, I think I think shelter, like being able to provide shelter, being able to provide food, being able to provide those like actual fundamentals that can make um a person live, right? I think safety, even of emotions, like that's what I would define as a man, but also like there's no joke that the man takes on more pressure than the female. Like, I'll always I don't want that pressure. I don't, I will never be a woman that's like just because I'm in business that I demand the same level of um what's not respect because yes, I want to be respected, but I don't I like that you're like the the CEO, right? Like I like that you're like the CEO of our family, and I like that you're the CEO of the business. Like that's what works. And I think why it works so well for you and I is because I take in more of like the the feminine role, which is more of like the caretaker, the emotional, like the um like not steady, because you're very steady too, but just like not that everything's okay, everything's okay, because you don't need to hear that necessarily, but there's just like different things that a male and a female provide. And I think that you and I both allow said ways. Like you allow my feminine self and I allow your masculine self, and I think that's why it works. But for me, I think in modern times, too, like being a man is providing, and providing is a big term. Like I said, providing like food, shelter, safety, emotional and physical. Yeah. Um and like dealing with shit because, like, let's be honest, the older and more life that you live, the more shit that you deal with. I would never want to be with a man that all of a sudden goes pussy, no offense, and is like, I don't know how to handle this situation. Okay. Cause like I like that you're just like head-on, like, boom, this is what I'm doing. I like knowing that that's gonna be you that handles that shit. I don't want to be the one that's all of a sudden like, all right, babe, let's gear up and let's figure this out. That's where I want to like let my guard down a little bit. And if I had to.
SPEAKER_01So I have an interesting interpretation of this. And you know, I heard Tom Brady say in his interview with Patrick Bett David about how he conjured up anger all the time.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I've heard that one.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, and he goes, Anger is good, right? And he literally goes, you know, you gotta create an enemy, right? And he goes, What'd those guys say? What'd they do? What'd they look like? You know, just making up stuff in his head, right?
SPEAKER_00I mean, he's a different level of a competitor, like he's the goat.
SPEAKER_01But follow where I'm follow me here though. Follow me here. So I think anger, I think anger can be good. And hear me out. So when something negative happens to me, or something um doesn't go my way, I get angry about it. And and what that anger does is it makes me do something about it. Right? So if uh if something doesn't go right in business, or you know, something doesn't go right, you know, a lot of it is business related today, right? But if something just doesn't go my way, or if, you know, maybe I have a uh an injury that forces me to not do something, I get angry and I and I figure out a way to do it, right? Whether it's you know being sick at an event, I get mad about it, and I go, you know what? I'm not gonna let it stop me. Does that make sense?
SPEAKER_00Well, if you're just neutral about it, it's not gonna instill any action. I agree that there has to be some type of like a fire to promote some type of an action. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, and and maybe anger's the wrong word. Maybe it's passion, maybe it's drive. But but I but I feel, you know, my best moments athletically were when I was angry. My worst moments athletically were when I was angry. My best moments professionally was when I was angry. My worst moments professionally was when I was angry. But I found today I know how to harness anger very well.
SPEAKER_00So maybe anger isn't the word though. Maybe when your worst moments have happened, that's been anger. But your best moments have been passion, right? Because I think a lot of the times anger, I think when someone's angry, it can cloud a lot of what they're actually feeling or what they're actually trying to communicate, right? So I would say that the bad times, and maybe this is me just being a female, I don't know. Men can comment. We're just talking it through. But I think when the things have happened that have been bad have been the result of you being angry. Whereas I think that when even though you've had like a fiery fuel to you, but good things have happened, I think that stems from passion, right? Because it's like, what is it stemming from? You can still have both intense emotions, but what is the outcome? Right. And I I associate anger with a negative outcome. That's me. Um, and and that's why I'm like, oh, maybe we can redefine if it's actually anger when you get the positive outcome. Because I would argue with Tom Brady's extremely passionate. So, and you know, like this is sports though. So you you get violent and not like actually violent, but you know, football is physical.
SPEAKER_01No, but Tom Brady can't get too angry to where he loses control either.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, because then there goes his career. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, yeah. And and and if you're too angry, I do think so. This is a great, this is a great topic. Like I think, I think it's different levels of anger. And I think it that's what I think it is. Call it what you want. Call it what you want. But a little anger is is good.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I I agree.
SPEAKER_01You know, like when when a young salesperson says to me, I that really pissed me off. I go, Good. What are you gonna do about it?
SPEAKER_00Yeah, as long as they're not punching holes in walls and or walking out of the office early or or saying some disrespectful shit.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, being disrespectful and not being a Yeah, no, for sure. But it's so it's it's like it has a typical Okay, so how do you harness the anger?
SPEAKER_00Okay, so maybe I correct myself. The anger's fine. How do you harness it?
SPEAKER_01It only took me 42 years.
SPEAKER_00Then well, we that's another conversation.
SPEAKER_01But um that's a whole nother You know, so I think I also because my my anger was always my biggest nemesis. Yeah, my anger problem. And it really like I haven't thrown a punch since I was 19 years old. So it's not like I'm getting into bar fights. And that's just me trying to excuse my anger outburst, by the way, which is pathetic.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Okay. But you know, I I would anytime I'd have, I don't know how we got on this topic, but this is good. Male and female roles. Yeah, no, no, but but I think he here's my here's my whole point. Like, I think some of these guys, like if things aren't going well for you, dude, like you know, like that there's somebody I'm thinking of right now, you know, someone that's close to us, and the closeness is fading because he just wants handouts from us. And I what my my my thing is get mad, get angry and do something about it.
SPEAKER_00Right, but I'm sure there actually is anger there, but how does it what does that translate into? How do you use it? How are you feeling yourself? So I don't know, psychology is very interesting.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, what made, what made I don't know. It's fascinating because my I'm telling you, my best times in my life came through getting mad. I think it's probably actually healthy when you're young. Yeah, you know, right? Like, because I've always said I've always felt I've always felt like ego is a great thing. Like, like, you know, 23-year-old dude right there, like he should want to prove to all of his college buddies that he's him. He should want to prove to his girlfriend that he's him. And a little bit of that is ego, right? But you don't want it to get to the point to where you're 32 years old and ego's now getting the best of you. It's making it's getting you jealous.
SPEAKER_00I would say ego is good up until you're secure with who you are, right? Everybody has that ego. I mean, I can even tell you times in my high school days and my college days, like I had competitiveness in me, proving people wrong, whatever. But then there comes a point where you're secure with your life and secure with your decision making and secure with who you are. And I think when that happens is when the ego should get shut off. Like, I don't care. Now I don't care what people think about me because I'm comfortable and I know the life that I'm living, and I I love my life, and I love who I am, and I love my relationship and my business. So I absolutely agree. I feel like ego is important until you're you're actually secure with who who you are. But that doesn't mean there's such a gray area because I don't think that I don't actually don't think that people who are unfulfilled are actually secure with themselves. I think true fulfillment is when you're secure with who you are.
SPEAKER_01Interesting. Couldn't you be settling though too?
SPEAKER_00Like well, that's why I was saying there's a gray area. What's the standard?
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_00I don't think people but settling, I don't think people that s settle hear me out are fulfilled.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. You know, everybody meets their standard. Like if you're uh if you're uh a coke head, you don't mind people calling you a coke head, that's fine. You're you're gonna be a coke head, but that's your standard. If you like I think cigarettes are gross, me too. So some people don't care that people think cigarettes are gross. That's their standard, right? Alcohol, if you want to be known as a drunk, um, if you want to be known as a provider, if you want to be fat and out of shape, like like whatever your standard is, you're you're gonna you're gonna meet. Right? So if my my standard is 245 pounds, I'm gonna meet that. If my standard is only casual drinking and people never seeing me unhinged, that's my standard. You're always gonna meet it. So one of the best ways, one of the best ways to accelerate in life is just simply raise your standards.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. Well, and this is like the maybe this is still ego for me. I want to win in all areas of life. Like I want, like the next thing that I think that you and I were like, yes, we're in like the let's let's keep winning and growing this business. And I don't think that'll ever change because that standard, you and I are both on the same page of elevating that standard for the company. But like the next thing that I'm focusing on is like there's so many people that'll just use the excuse of children to become average or unfulfilled, either in their physique. I don't have time, I have kids, I don't have enough time to make more money, I have kids, I don't have enough time to do this because the kids I want it all. Why can't I be a wife in shape, doing things for myself, being a good mom, running the company to whatever capacity I want that to look like? Um why can't you have it all? My mindset is I want it all. I'm going for it. But then people will pick and choose different excuses to why they don't have it. The next, like I'm saying, the next part of our life, which is the child element. How frequently do you hear the kids' excuse for whatever it might be about?
SPEAKER_01With friends?
SPEAKER_00Anything. But I don't have enough money, kids are expensive.
unknownYeah.
SPEAKER_01Oh, I can't, I can't leave this company and start my own company.
SPEAKER_00Because I have kids.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, like I can't take that risk.
SPEAKER_00That exactly. And I you can have it all with all of that. It's just another level of raising the bar to be able to do it. Yeah, I want it all.
SPEAKER_01You know, you just made me think of and realize, and this is like duh. But having a life partner is the right partner, is the only way you can have it all. That's it. It's like, so you know, I can't tell you how many people I will name drop. I will name drop. If you're listening, I can't tell you how many times Dr. Cena has said to me, I can't believe you have found a woman like this that's you know, beautiful, feminine, but almost like co-CEO-ish, but allows you to flourish and thrive and pushes you to thrive and is is a real partner, not just at home, and not just a pretty face, but a but a great life partner. And you can't have it all. Like the other girls I was with, they're fine girls. Like I wasn't who I am today, you know, with with the partner I have now being you. And it's the same thing with women. If if they're with a deadbeat, you know, you're not gonna get a whole lot out of life. You know, you're gonna hope that somebody comes and saves you or gives you a $500,000 salary because you're his boy. But yeah, choosing a partner is everything, right? It's it's I'm really this wow, I'm getting old here on myself. It's it's no different than choosing like the right business partner. You know, it can make her it's like a teammate. You know, Michael Jordan needed Scottie Pippen, you know. Wemby needs all these other guys, you know. So it's it's it really is. It's a partner, it's a it's a it's uh it's a teammate. It really is. You and I are blessed. I've met each other.
SPEAKER_00I know. I was gonna make a joke and say, I wonder if that's why the government makes it so it's actually a business deal.
unknownYeah.
SPEAKER_00Contractual, contractually, you know.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. You know, I do support women in so many ways. Like I do think, like if a woman stops working for 12 years, you know, from age 22 to 34, and she, you know, didn't have uh, she gave up her professional career, and that's what that's what they decided as a family to do, then yeah, you probably owe her a little bit of money because you guys agreed for 12 years that she was gonna forego her professional career.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I agree. That's an alimony, yeah.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, for sure. No, for sure.
SPEAKER_00Um how how do you know though, like with um at least for you being where you're at and your dating experience, at least like you know, when Dr. Cena says stuff like that, like how are you, how did you know what's your version of finding that life partner? Like how I'm sure there's people that want to know that. How what do you look for?
SPEAKER_01Well, this is just me. You know, I I wasn't looking for women. I wasn't looking for girlfriends ever. There was never a time in my life where I was like, oh God, I really wish I had a girlfriend.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, yeah, we get it.
SPEAKER_01No, no, no, no, no. I don't mean it like I know, I think. I didn't mean it like that. I know. It's more, you know, I grew up with a single mom. I didn't observe marriage. That wasn't what my life, it wasn't what I witnessed in my upbringing. So I don't think I was ever like, oh God, I just want a beautiful girl to lay down and cuddle with and talk about my emotions with. Like that sounds awful. Yeah, no, I know, but that was like my perception of a girlfriend. Yeah, it was just like a person you lay around and watch Netflix with or whatever. So every girlfriend I had was like accidental. It was just like, oh, yeah, you're kind of cute. Yeah, I like hanging out with you. Yeah, yeah, we can be exclusive. Right? Like, so so I was just I'm not an expert.
SPEAKER_00That's convenience.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. Yeah, you're probably right.
SPEAKER_00And I think that that goes into the longer story of that, like I was always dating to find my husband, right? But I think that's sometimes when men settle too, because like you said, like who's there, you know, like I think a lot of men do like the convenience element, right?
SPEAKER_01Yeah, and and and I married one of the girls, right? And I probably could have married one of the other girls, and and neither neither relationship worked out. I mean, you know, I I've been in the you're my third longest, third long relationship. I mean, I could have if I would have married these girls, you would have been my third wife. That's what happens to a lot of people. You know, yeah, it's crazy. You know, there's a bunch of people on five and six. I I don't know. I think um, no, so I so what you going back to your question You know, I I think you I think you have to I think you have to be in a couple relationships. You know, especially especially as a man, you know. I I think as a woman it's different, but as a man, you probably need to have a couple girlfriends for two years or longer, and you kind of find, you know, what's important to you and what's not. Um it takes two years. I don't give a shit what anybody says. It takes two years to get to know somebody and if you're combat compatible with them or not. It takes two years, right? Because two years settles in and you're like, all right, am I really into this person? And you're like, damn it, I already freaking engaged. I'm already engaged. Fuck. You know, when I got married to my last girl, dude, my friends did an intervention with me. Did I ever tell you that? They did an intervention. They're like, Are you sure you want to do this? Are you sure? It was like a week before. They were like, they were like, hey bro, do you is this really the one? Are you making the right decision?
SPEAKER_00They should have given you a little more time for that thought.
SPEAKER_01And you know, you know what the crazy part was? I knew it was wrong, and I was still going through it anyway, which is the craziest damn thing. Yeah. But so I think I don't know. So I'm I'm trying to answer your question just through my lens. I I don't know if you actually I think you have to have a few relationships. I don't know, to kind of figure yourself out, like figure out what your real non-negotiables are and what's really important to you. Um, I like a woman, you know, I don't just want a housewife. I don't like like as Republican and as conservative as I am, and how nine out of ten men around me just want their woman at home cooking grits and waffles and taking care of the kids, you know, that's just not me. I I I'm really attracted to your to your professional desire, you know, because I do know even if you go away for a few years, I know you're gonna come right back. Right? Um, so I don't know. It takes the biggest mistake that people ever make in relationships is they they they commit too early, they commit too young.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, and I think um a lot of the people that I know that are unhappy is because there's a lot of resistance to change in the relationship.
SPEAKER_01We're both, by the way, married and business owners.
SPEAKER_00You're responding, yeah. Um I think a lot of people in relationships are resistant to change. And people are evolving. So, like, you know, you're not gonna be the same person even next year than I am gonna be in a year. And I think the evolution of a relationship is so important.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. You and I have evolved a ton.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, and and that's because neither of us are set in our ways. Like, if I have, and I always go back to like the feedback conversation. If I ever give you are so good at when I give you feedback, and vice versa. And I think that's really important because if there's something that I do that upsets you, you tell me, and I I like am like, okay, like let me think about that and make sure that you know I do everything I can to not have that happen again. You know, we're human, we're not perfect, but like, okay, like what can we do from this moving forward? And like the same thing goes back to you. Although we don't really get mad at each other.
SPEAKER_01No, you irritate the shit out of me every now and then, but it's just it's just not worth it, if that makes sense.
SPEAKER_00No, the last time I irritated him was when he came home from the gym. And one of the things, ladies, that I do that I think Eric really likes, and this is actually out of my own pure enjoyment. Like, I find things that he enjoys to be enjoyable, one of which is basketball, right? Like, I've learned how to appreciate watching basketball. I've learned how to appreciate watching UFC. Like, it's something that another thing that we can conversate and bond over. So it's important to find things that maybe your partner is interested in. Like I'm sure that there's things that I do that you're not 100% interested in, but you you find a way to be interested because it's important to me. Like that's really important.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. Um you can you sit down and show me your clothes and stuff that you bought, Mike. Yeah, like I could care less, but just paid for it.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, you did that the other day. It was perfect.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, but I care that I care that it's important to you.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, you actually did enjoy it though. I saw that. Okay, cool. So but um you came home from the gym one day. The Spurs were on, and I was trying to the Spurs is Eric's team. I was trying to like engage and ask you questions, and he was like coming back from a conference and was sick, and he's like, babe, I love you, but I just want to sit here and watch the TV show. And for a second, I was like, Oh yeah, the game. And for a second, I was so annoyed. I was like, he's so fucking mean for that. In my head, I was so pissed that you said that, but I regulated myself and I was like, you know what? It's not that deep.
SPEAKER_01Well, no, because I was like sensitive for a second. No, no, no, no, yeah.
SPEAKER_00And I was like, but whatever, he wants to watch his game, it's cool.
SPEAKER_01So understand I had three options. I say nothing, and I just continue to get my ear talked off about nonsense. Because when you watch a game with a girl, like, dude, they they ask the craziest questions. Like, did he just throw the ball? And you're like, no, he's dribbling the ball. Like, no, it's like so.
SPEAKER_00Some of the questions Did he just I don't that's okay. I don't ask stupid questions like that.
SPEAKER_01It's like, wait a minute, I really like their uniforms today, and it's like, you know, like an intense game or whatever. So listen, I had had a busy few weeks and uh yeah, I just wasn't hearing it. I didn't want to hear it, but I didn't get upset. I had three options in that moment. I could have been passive and not said anything, and just allowed you to talk my ear off for the next two hours and just allowed myself to be incredibly irritated. The other mistake, that's not the right move. The other mistake is go nuclear and be like, fucking doing this, and fucking, you know, and then just create more problems. Yeah. Right. But the the right way to handle that decision was being assertive. Like, hey, babe, you're kind of talking my ear off right now. I I love you to death, but can I just decompress here for half a hour? No, no, no. Initially, initially, initially, you were, I could see you were on one. I'm like, oh my God. I'm like, here we go. Here we go. I'm the bad guy because I'm doing what my anger management freaking um therapist told me to do years back.
SPEAKER_00I regulated myself and then you came into the bathroom and I was like, what are you talking about? It's not that big of a deal.
SPEAKER_01No, because I wasn't sure if you were just like hiding it now.
SPEAKER_00No, I got over it.
SPEAKER_01Okay, all right, all right.
SPEAKER_00But also, like these pregnancy hormones are no joke. Like, I'm sure normally fine afterwards. Yeah, I'm sure normally I wouldn't even have thought twice about that, but the hormones can hormones.
SPEAKER_01Dude, I came, I went to uh what's the place I get the little protein shakes from?
SPEAKER_00Planet Juice?
SPEAKER_01Dude, it took me well, I'm a great place. I'm not trying, but we had a new guy there. It took me 45 minutes to get a shake. I know, you never know what then I went to get my hair cut and I I get in there. Alejandro's cutting his eyebrows first. So I'm super late. I really wanted to watch this game.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. And I think it was a great game.
SPEAKER_01It was Denver and San Antonio, and I just really wanted to watch it, and then I get home and you know, and I just I just wanted to enjoy the fourth quarter, just watch it, and then go out to dinner with you. I think I handled it the right way.
SPEAKER_00We both did.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_00But my point from bringing it up was that I just don't think we get like it wasn't even a fight. Yeah, we don't even fight anymore because it's just like this is like funny.
SPEAKER_01We actually start laughing when we get into fights now. Because we know it is so stupid. So dumb. It really is so stupid. It's so dumb.
unknownYeah.
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