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two brothers take opposite sides on the kevin hart roast...........

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SPEAKER_00

We don't know how we keep it. Can we break it down?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Ice camera.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. When you when you um when you are at a certain level and you're ascending, you always stick to your roots for with whoever you are, right? Or you or you latch on to the black community or whatever community you're part of. Most of the time it's a black community. And the black popularity and your jokes or your music or whatever um add value to your content. And when you get to a certain level, whether it's subconsciously or or what propelled you to the top doesn't propel you anymore. And um, people will say that when you get to a certain level, the black community may or may not turn their back on you. But there's also something to be said about all the equity that you've built up coming up doesn't give the same return rate when you make it to the top. And lazy people will say once again, it's a black community turning their back, but when you dig deeper, sometimes the content or sometimes the things that people say when they get to the top are things that they wouldn't have said years prior when they were just trying to come up. Um that's all. And it's you know some people it could be the black community, some people it could be where they are, where it's just like, look, I don't, I don't I don't need to do certain things anymore because I'm getting this type of money, which is fine, right? You know what I mean? Like it it's all good. Um and I think sometimes that's what um Kevin Hart is running into. Like the man did a roast, and I think most of the writers were white, and once again, I I don't mind racial jokes, but they gotta be funny. And once again, being funny is all an opinion, right? It's it's all what you think is funny.

SPEAKER_05

And uh Kevin Hart hasn't been funny for a while, bro.

SPEAKER_02

And I think that's what he's facing. It's unfortunate, but he hasn't been funny for a while. And uh it is what it is. Like Dave Chappelle's always been funny to me. Once again, of course, some people have been like, I when you talk to my mother, she'll be like, oh he's always talking about the trans jokes. Yeah, he do be talking, he do, but the trans jokes be hilarious, or some of them be in poor taste, but Dave Chappelle talks about everybody. I don't see the people who are getting the trans jokes say, why he always gotta say the nigga word all the time. They don't they don't say that. They always hop on the trans part. So that's what I'm saying. Dave Chappelle's always he's always been consistent.

SPEAKER_05

And, you know, I just feel bad sometimes for Kevin Hart, that's all.

SPEAKER_02

It it it it doesn't it doesn't um it's just it's not a coincidence that he had Cat um um Cat Williams roast him because Cat Williams is still he's still with the peoples, right? Like he's still people still fucks with Cat Williams, and I'm sure Kevin Hart probably was on some shit like look, you know what I'm saying? Let's make up, and I wouldn't be surprised a year or two down the line there's gonna be a Cat Williams Kevin Hart movie. And I'll bet you that movie makes mad money, right? And they will all put it on Kevin Hart saying this is Kevin Hart, but I bet you most of the people went there to go see Cat Williams because they still fuck with Kat.

SPEAKER_05

That's all I'm saying. That's what I don't disagree with you.

SPEAKER_06

I feel um you you try to play very diplomatic at times, and I get you uh you try to select your words correctly, uh, like we was talking about, you know. Um but I just keep him dead real. That nigga was the top level of coonery, if there is ever one. That's how I feel. That's just my personal feeling.

SPEAKER_02

For for the roast or in general?

SPEAKER_06

For the roast, specifically not talking about nothing else. And not even not even just the fact of the roast itself, because I do understand um like whether like I was like, so I really just don't like um I don't I don't like bullying. That's that's what I feel it gets to at times, right? Like when even if it's with Tom Brady and people continuously talking about his marital problems or whatever the case may be, and his wife being with whoever, stuff like that. Um just my personal opinion, it's like it's it's a difference between like it's just like if we're friends, you know what I'm saying? Like if we're friends and we actually are cool and we roasting on each other, that's fine. You could talk about my feet, you could talk about whatever, you know, blah blah blah. But when it comes to certain digs that are deeper than what they have to be, I that's why I don't watch any of the rooks. I never really have, right? Now, um, and that that's it's for me. I always feel like it's um more specific to like the person, like if those two people are cool, and I because you don't know what relationship they may or may not have, but from the outside looking in, it seems like hey, they pretty cool. I might have seen them in a few movies with each other, all right, they could shoot with each other, or you know, Tom Brady and you know, Julian the Edelman, they've known each other for a while, all right. So they could shoot at each other. I don't know how far their shots go, but even once it goes to the point where it's like, you know, when like you know how you sit in with somebody and you look at them like, yo, did you just hear that? You get what I'm saying? Like, I feel like that's where it just draws the line. Now that's why I'm saying just specifically, like in the Tom Brady, white people roasting other white people. But then when it gets to the point of when it's like you make monkey jokes and you make baboon jokes, and you you know what I mean? Like when you go towards the menstrual show, you know, like the bamboozle bullshit, I feel like I just say as a man, you would it, and that's the other part. Like, it's like that's the coonery because you allow this. This is your roast, and I understand people are coming up there, they're gonna say whatever, and it's probably like this is one of the law not the last roasts, but this is the newest roast. So obviously, someone is always trying to up from what happened in the last roast, right? Like how fucking um Jeff Ross came out in an OJ jersey like he was coming from hell, and then he had a bunch of jokes about it. You know, people could feel how they might feel, whatever it is about it. Um, and you know, it can get to the point where it's like, well, goddamn, you know what I'm saying? Like, that man is dead, let him live, whatever, right? But then there's two sides of the story. It's it's the side of the story where it's like it's something that he did or something that he's done over time, and then it's like, all right, I'm not talking about, you know, um his culture or his color or anything. I'm just talking about the stuff that he did. These are the facts that are presented on the table. But when she if you go, if you get into like, you know, nigga this, nigga that, a whole bunch of different stuff, and it's from the outside looking in, it's like, like, I don't know if it's this lady, Dr. Rhea, or whatever. I don't even know if she's real or not. I think she's like just a chatbot. But she broke it down plain and simple, where the girl was like, there was some kid who was saying how you guys say it, so how can we can't say it too? And she broke it down as simple as there's there's other ways, there's other places, and like say if it's two women. Me and you could be like, bitch, bitch, what, bitch, bitch, bitch. But as soon as some dude walks in, like, bitch, what y'all doing? It's it's completely different. This is an inner circle. You get what I'm saying? Like, you can't come from the outside, just like if it's two gay people going at it, and they're like, oh, you gay as fuck, you gay, you gay, you gay as fuck, you trans, whatever. They can do that. But as soon as you come from the outside, you like, oh, you're a male, and he, it's it's automatically like, who the fuck you think you're talking to? It's outside looking in. Just like family situations. If me and you, if me and you were talking about whoever uncle, me and you could talk about whoever uncle, but if someone else comes from the outside, we're gonna look at them like, yo, what the fuck? You can't do it. It's not a part of the circle. So I it it blows my mind that for every other situation, for every other, you know, let me turn my shit on DMD ahead of time so you can let's see.

SPEAKER_05

Do not disturb.

SPEAKER_06

Do not disturb is on.

SPEAKER_05

Darius, do not disturb on.

SPEAKER_06

But you know, when it's when it's other situations, and let me know if this stops recording, because no, it's still recording. Okay. So you know what I'm saying? It's it's it's uh other situations where things like that happen, and it's always the people on the outside looking in that only in this situation they're re they're they're able to say whatever they want to say or not say, or be like, oh well, y'all call each other that we can too. Try to lessen the value, whatever. But last but not least, the even more of the coonery part is just for him defending how it was, like I get I get him defending the um the comedy part, because he's a comedian. I could I could I guess understand that. Um but as far as as far as like the complete situation of you defending that you you plain up plain a simple saying like you don't have to apologize to anybody specifically when it comes to George Ford George Floyd's family when you were at his funeral and his family hold you to a certain standard, I just feel it's like that was for me, that was a smack in the face. When they would when they were given a like on Power 105, when they were given a direct quote from George Floyd's brother, who said he felt a certain way about whatever, and then for him to go out his way and be like, I don't have to explain anything to anybody, I mean you do, you do, you know, you do kind of even if it's not to everybody on power 105, so then you could skip over it and go to the next. But for you to defend all of the N-words and then go further and be like, I don't have to explain nothing to George Floyd's family, I feel like I feel like it was a slap in the face. And it's it's literally just because of the amount of money you make. So it's like well, I make a certain amount of money, it is what it is. When I'm trying to move in different rooms with different people, I don't I don't see color. When it's like I I don't know, man. I just think he may, I think he may, he he's making too much money to understand the gravity of that situation. I don't know.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, he um I don't know, it was just handled poorly, and I just you know I I um listen I he hasn't been funny for a while. I told you, and and his humor and I just I'm over it. Um and that's not to say that if a Kevin Hart movie comes out, I'm not gonna watch it, I'm not gonna laugh. I just think that he did a poor job of not riding for the culture. And um, like Cat Williams said, he don't say no to a lot of things. That's why you see him in all these commercials, and he's he's um endorsing all these products and things like that, which is fine. Get your bag, bro. I'm not even that's not even it, but I always and I'm and I'm probably wrong for this. I always feel like when you were born in the culture, whether you agree with it or not, whether you want to stay adjacent to the culture or not, whether you want to make money and live with all other cultures, you still have some sort of responsibility for the culture. That's what makes sometimes black culture a little different than other cultures. Meaning, like you just said, you can we can have a conversation, but when there's someone from the outside trying to have that same conversation and make a mockery of it, as someone that's in it, you should you should at some point be like, you know what, that was fucked up. Or you know what, he shouldn't have said that. But you know, not everyone is like that. And um, it's just unfortunate. Now, I don't know if it's gonna affect any of his sales because white people love Kevin Hart. He's a safe Negro.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah, that's not gonna affect him.

SPEAKER_02

He's a safe comedian. I don't, I don't, I don't think he uses the word nigga in in any of his stand-up. You know what I'm saying? If I he probably does, but I he really doesn't, right? And a lot of his comedy is his standup is safe comedy, right? He talks about his kids with the Wi-Fi and stuff with his how he pulled a muscle race. Like it'd be it's safe comedy. He's a safe comic. And um, you know, hey, it is what it is, you know? Speaking of comics, did you watch the Eddie Murphy uh thing on Netflix last night? No. So um AFL, AFI, they did uh, it's like an hour and a half. They did um, they gave them a lifetime achievement award. And um it was excellent, man. Black excellence too. Yo, bro, when you put when you put black people in a room together, positive black people, and it's a gr and it's an event, like you can't. When it was over, the missus was like, yo, how'd you feel? I was like, yo, that was that was excellent. Like Dave Chappelle got up and talked, Spike Lee talked, um, Chris Rock spoke. Um it was excellent. It's on Netflix. It's like an hour and a half. It was excellent, bro. Um I skipped over it. I ain't watching it. It was good, man. I mean, well, you know, listen, when we talk about range and all that stuff, hey, right? Like, Eddie Murphy is an icon, B. Like, I mean, I think he I don't think uh he's great at playing a bad guy, because I don't think he's ever played one, like with Vampire in Brooklyn, but like, has he ever been a bad guy before? I don't know. Um, but he's an icon, right? Like he had a I he sang, he acts, he does comedy, he's he's been in serious movies, like hats off to him, bro.

SPEAKER_06

And then you know what? And not even well, to make the correlation. So, like, I was watching, um, I told you, I was watching 48 hours, and you told me, yo, son. And then that's it's not the only time. But there was multiple times where I because I want to say it was it was like an interview or something that he was doing one time too, and the interviewer straight up called him a nigger. And then there was another time when um, obviously in 48 hours, where that nigga was calling him nigga, watermelon, all type of shit. Like crazy talking crazy. And so that's that's when I I kind of correlated the same like stardom rise with him as Kevin Hart, where it's like, okay, I'm moving in different rooms, I'm outnumbered, I can't necessarily and I don't even I don't want to say it's outnumbered, like you're just gonna get beat up or whatever, but it's like you're outnumbered. So even if you was to snap and punch somebody in their mouth, uh-uh, whatever, you're gonna look like the crazy one. So it's like I just wanna keep getting my check because blah, blah, blah, whatever, whatever. And I just I bring all that shit back to when Malcolm X was talking about it a long time ago, and saying that these entertainers are not leaders. We expect them to be leaders, but they're not, because all they're here for is for entertainment value. They're not, no, nobody is going out their way to address certain issues publicly, even when it's like it's something that's directed directly towards them. And I'll and I'll give you another example, but it's not just comedy-wise, it's rap-wise. Now, Jay-Z just did his roots. I now first off, does that nigga have an afro? Did he have dreads? What the fuck is going on, right?

SPEAKER_02

He had locks, and then it took four days for the locks to come out and he has a he's rocking an afro.

SPEAKER_06

Who and that that was according to to the because I done had locks for a long time. You don't get that much new growth in your locks. Especially if you had um what the fuck? Uh this nigga had the the bosquiots, my nigga.

SPEAKER_05

So that that's just all like matted hair.

SPEAKER_06

That's he has a freeform. So your freeform, that's the damn near go to your route, your route, bro. That ain't no, I can see if he had like a little fro and it was that shit was path fro, bro. Yeah, yeah, I know. So this nigga, that's a perfect example of there's a lot of examples where he's always quiet. Jay-Z is always quiet about a political situation. And then if he talks about a political situation, he talks about it in an aspect of being like, Well, you know, you can't really do it. And he he does this like um this like wordplay of test where he's saying something, but he's not saying something, but then we try to decipher it to make it be like, oh yeah, that is what it is, right?

SPEAKER_04

Okay.

SPEAKER_06

And that's kind of what he did on stage, but you you was addressed in whatever song that Drake dropped, and you decided to write a whole verse and address everything from game dash, fucking teeth falling out, to uh like all of these issues. You get what I'm saying? That's that's my issue with entertainers a lot, where it's like if it doesn't specifically come directly to them, then they don't necessarily address it. Okay, so let's unless you're right, you're right. I'm just saying, when you say like somebody's for the culture, we could say these people are for the culture or whatever, but when things are happening to the culture, they speak in a deciphering way. But then when it's directly to them, they address it.

SPEAKER_02

I feel that that's the Okay, and and I agree with you, but what would you prefer? So what I mean by that is right now we're on the ground floor, right? We're still doing things, iPhone, and I have I have a microphone, but I haven't hooked it up yet. But let's say as we keep going, we keep going, and we we end up getting a studio or we get microphones, and our quality is better, and and we start having rundowns, and we start getting big, big, big, and things happen. And we making money from everywhere. We're making money overseas, we making, and we have different ethnic groups and just pouring in. Our views, our our vocal views may change, but our internal views won't. So behind closed doors, I'll I could be like, yo, bro, like white people be bugging, right? Republicans, this and that. But I may not say that over the air because you and I may not want to alienate some of the listeners. They may just want to hear us talking about something silly, then me or you going back and forth on what some white dude did, how he called somebody the N word. But when we click off air, me and you will have that serious conversation. And they come to find out that you run a nonprofit organization from for young black boys to go to the prom, and I run a non nonprofit organization. For um food insecurities in the hood, right? So I don't I hate making assumptions on what certain people do in public because we may not know. But I get what you're saying. It's just like there are different things at stake as you make more and more money that you can't openly say because it may hurt your bottom line. So sometimes I I hate to be like celebrities are not leaders because some of them may some of them aren't, but some of them are. We just don't know what they do. And sometimes we have to understand that they can't say certain things. Now, if they do things like Kevin Hart does, and a white comedian makes all these racist jokes, then we be like, nah, nigga, like you could have said something. You you could at the end of your roast, you could have got up and roasted him for saying fucked up shit, but you didn't. We expect that. And and that's all I'm saying, where I don't expect certain things from certain people, but he specifically should have came off and said something. Because if you don't say nothing, then that's even worse than not even addressing a little bit of it. That's all. Right?

SPEAKER_06

I mean, because some people will say that's not my thing is when you say bottom line, the bottom line is your integrity. The bottom line is where you came from. The bottom line is how you where you started at. I agree. So for us to use anything else when we know what the bottom line is, the bottom line shifts. It started with your culture, it started with you, it started with your integrity, it started with how you feel about yourself and everything in your community and all of that, and then once you started making that money, and once you started signing deals with banks and doing whatever the case may be, that bottom line shifted.

SPEAKER_02

But do you think that, but do you think that do you think that these people's bottom line shifted? Do you think that their vocal identity changed, or do you think that that was they changed completely? Because some people I really feel like they won't say certain things. Internally they'll say it behind closed doors, but out in the public, they won't say what they really want to say. Is that wrong for them to do that?

SPEAKER_05

I mean, it's independent is for them.

SPEAKER_06

Because if they because the only reason why they're not saying something is because of money. Okay. Because that's what that's what it all comes to. It comes to I have deals, I have money coming in, I have, you know, different circles that I'm in, so I'm trying not to ruffle any feathers, which is fine. If that's what you want to do, that's fucking fine. But I'll give you an example where it is in not just saying white people, but just in general. Like I mean, and he's a he's he's a he's a terrible example, but a good example at the same time. Trump.

SPEAKER_05

Like he don't give a fuck. His bottom line is his bottom line.

SPEAKER_06

His people are his people. He's not he's not about to sugarcoat anything or hold back how he feels about a situation just because he knows that certain black people in America fuck with him. Because he don't give a fuck.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, I I you you're right to an extent though. I I I'll I want to stay tied to us, meaning that we all know that w no matter what race you are, if you don't give a fuck, you don't give a fuck. But certain races could get away, certain cultures could get away more than whatever. And Donald Trump can he can do that because he's Donald Trump. But certain other cultures can't do that. So I get what you're saying. Or people may black people may see that and be like, yo, that's mad game, whatever. He can do that, him specifically can do that. But not everyone could do that.

SPEAKER_06

But you know why? Because you know why? Because our money is tied to them. So this goes back to what I was saying before with Malcolm X or with Marcus Garvey or with even with Martin Luther King when he was done, and he was like, I feel like we set, I I feel like we, I just ran, made all our people run into a burning building. Like telling everybody, hey, we need this, we need to be a part of each other, we need to do this, we need to do that. And then clearly, on one of his last um speeches, he was like, yo, I I feel like I threw everything off. It makes no sense why it's a billion dollars that is coming in from the government, but we still got people that's poor. So this is this goes into what I'm saying about like, like, just like how, like, perfect example. If you knew that your dollar was black was backed by the black community, and you knew that it didn't matter what was happening, what you said, your people gonna ride for you because you know what you're saying, everyone else is thinking. On your side, at least. Now, I'm not saying I'm not saying you gotta go out your way and be like, man, fuck them white crackers. I'm not saying that. I'm saying, but when you have your shit set up to the point where you know, and I'll give you another example, like fucking Cat Williams, the exact opposite of Kevin Hart. He's still making money, he's still fucking got a whole land and doing he's doing everything that he needs to do. People could look at him like he's crazy, fine, whatever, right? But at the end of the day, he knows that he has enough people of his own color, whether it's banking, whether it's doctors, whether it's just supporting him and coming to his shows that I can say whatever the fuck I want to say because it's the truth, and y'all know it's the truth. They just don't like it. So that's that's the perfect example. And I'm not saying that Kevin Cat Williams is a leader at all. But what I'm saying is once you back yourself with enough of your own people, you're able to speak in that way. Even if it's Dave Chappelle, too. James Chappelle might be on both sides of the coin, right? Dave Chappelle might be a little bit of Cat Williams, a little bit of Kevin Hart. Like, you know, he has uh groups of people that are maybe not of color or whatever the case may be. And it could be certain things that he could say that he's like, ah, damn, I shouldn't necessarily say that. But he also knows that he's built the infrastructure around him enough to where I could say whatever the fuck I want to say because I'm a broken ass man.

SPEAKER_02

Absolutely.

SPEAKER_06

So that's all I'm saying. And I and I'm not saying either one of them are fucking leaders or nothing like that. But what I'm saying is once you back yourself with enough of an infrastructure of your people that you know that once you go and you say something, it's gonna be people on this side, it's gonna be people on that side, but you ain't about to get fucking canceled.

SPEAKER_05

Because you can't be canceled, you can't cancel the culture.

SPEAKER_02

Of course not. But the the culture can cancel you. That's all I'm saying. And that and and and and I hope the culture doesn't cancel Kevin Hart because you know, but uh the culture ain't happy. Right.

SPEAKER_05

And that's what I'm saying. It depends on what culture, because in there's two separate cultures. It's multiple, but in this in this case, it's a white culture and it's a black culture.

SPEAKER_06

White cap white culture can definitely cancel you. And the black people too, if you go if you go against either one. Yeah, that's where it's like people people are making that decision to be like, ah, I don't want to get canceled. Like, for example, he was that's where Kevin Hart was the Kevin Hart was literally like, I I don't want to be canceled by white culture. So I'm about to say this, I'm about to say this. These niggas paid too many bills, yeah, I don't give a fuck. But when it came to black culture, it was like, man, I don't give a fuck. I don't gotta he was literally.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, yeah, because because some because some people's top of the mountain is different than other people's top of the mountain, right? So, so I'ma so I'm so some people value different things in life than others. And I'm gonna say for me, right, personally, and I shouldn't even put this out, but I'm gonna say for me personally, peace of mind, a little bit of money in my pocket, and successful. And successful means what? You know, working at a job I like, making sure all my kids go off to college and they live good lives, have a functioning, stable relationship, right? While other people's success is making all this money and this is my craft, whatever, right? And sometimes when I hear Cat Williams talk, as opposed to hear Kevin Hart talk, um, Cat Williams is like, listen, there's some roles that I should have taken, but for the most part, I fund this out of my own money and I'm putting on these young comedians and whatever. Whereas it seems like Kevin Hart's thing is, I need to be at the top, right? Like I need to be considered Mount Rushmore and all my shit is on Netflix. I have this other show on Netflix, I'm in movies, right? So things that people value dictate how they're going to respond in public. And how they value their culture, right? And you know, I'm sure there's some comedians that's coming up now that's like they're gonna do all the circuits and do all that. But I'm sure when they make a certain money or that tax bracket change, they're not gonna be the same. And then there's some that's gonna stay the same regardless, or there's some that's gonna take a break, like Chappelle and come back and be like, yo, fuck it. I'm still me, I'm still gonna tell the jokes, right? And um, and I'm sure 80%, if you go to Chappelle show now, I'm sure 75% would be white and 25% be black, but you know what? Black people still fuck with Chappelle, right? Because he built up that equity with the Chappelle show, right? He built up that equity, like he may talk about black people, but he be hitting them white people hard, he be hitting trans people hard, he be hitting the gays hard, right? He hit his own culture hard, um, and people still rock with him. And I guarantee you, if he if if he told, and I know and I guarantee you, if they did a uh, if they did a um a roast, and let's say a white comedian came up and said those black, those George Fox, I guarantee you Chappelle would have came up and told some story about some slave or whatever, and there was a launch on that story, and at the end of the punchline would have hit him and he would have he would have roasted that white comedian. Kevin Hart's not doing that. He's not doing that. He's he's really not a thoughtful comedian like that. Um, Eddie Murphy wouldn't allow that. Now, Eddie Murphy may allow a white comedian to say the N-word, but Eddie Murphy was like, hey, and it'll come out with his voice, but don't be saying that you're gonna get your ass whooped, and people will laugh and it'll be the end of it. Kevin Hart ain't doing it. That's why, that's why what's her name? Got mad love. Um, who was at the roast? What's her name? The the lady whose husband um killed herself? Because she was like, nigga, you in Englewood. Like, I can't help you if you get your ass beat. You know what I'm saying? That's why people fuck with her because she she knew what time it was. And it's just like Kevin Hart didn't do none of that. It's crazy.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, some so sucker MC shit, man. I don't fuck with Kevin Hart. I'm sorry.

SPEAKER_02

I know a lot of people in the hood do. I just don't.

SPEAKER_06

He's not a good one. He's he's funny. I think he's funny more in like improv, like um, you know, in the moment, asking questions, kind of like that awkwardness. I I feel like I'm with that, but after after just that last little uh I know, man. I know, bro.

SPEAKER_02

I'm good. I know, I'm good, right? I'm good. Yeah. It's fucked up, man, but you know, it's fucked up. Because that movie that he did with um the guy from Breaking Bad was hilarious. It was yo, I was, I was in tears, bro. And I think that's when he's at his, and I think that's when he's at his best, when he's not too overly Kevin Hardy. Um even when he did the joint with Wesley Snipes.

SPEAKER_06

I love that because he wasn't so, but when he gets on that, that oh shit, I'd be like, yo, bro, like you're not like knock it off, d I do want to see the movie that he got with them SNL characters, though. That shit looked funny as hell. I ain't no.

SPEAKER_02

What movie he got with SNL characters?

SPEAKER_06

Um, I forgot. It's like they all the kids like he was in a group chat and they was like talking about some, you know.

SPEAKER_02

Yes. But see, what but see once again I feel like I feel like when and you can take the Netflix joint with Wesley Snipes and you can take the joint with Brian Crankston, I think that's his name, breaking back. I feel like when he's in movies where uh people are equally as funny or their celebrity light is just as high as his. We don't judge him as heavy, we don't see him as being not as funny as the other ones because there are other people equal to him. And it kind of masks his deficiencies because we see everyone else in the cast. Does that make sense? No, I get it. I get it. So that movie may be that movie may be good, right? Because he's in there with other comedians or other people that are just as funny. But when he's just so focused, I'm like, nah, I'm good. Because I already know what he's gonna say, I already know the mannerisms. Like, I already know what I'm getting.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah. I mean, you know, I this it's just I don't know, man. I ain't I ain't stressing no more. I ain't worried about it.

SPEAKER_02

Ain't worried about it no more.

SPEAKER_06

And nah, I mean, because it ain't really too much to talk about. It is what it is. I feel like there's always a different, you know, opinion on it, but at the end of the day, right now, there's a level of just being like, fuck it, if you make it money, you're making money. And ignore ignore everything else, you know what I'm saying? And and and sometimes maybe it's we we hold we hold our people too much accountable or something like that. Maybe that's what it is, you know what I'm saying? Because I'm sure it's a lot of other people that do other things, but I just think it's like, man, when you're at the top of the top and you know that everybody, especially when you're in his position, you know everybody's watching shit like that. I'm not saying that you have to move a certain way, but at the same time, even if even if not for uh everybody, period, man, just for your kids, like I know you got a daughter, I know you got a son, and I know for a fact that there's a point in time that you're gonna be like, I'm doing all of this for them so that they don't have to do this. So get it done. You know what I'm saying? No, I know we ain't gotta keep talking about that, nigga. What what's uh no doubt? What else is what else is good? What's what you watch in the movies?

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, I um what did I watch? I I feel like I watched something on the I mean I saw Euphoria last night, obviously. They killed my girl off. Um They killed who? Oh, you didn't see it? Yeah, bro. I'm sorry. But yeah, they they yeah, Rue they um Rue died last night. The season finale, she died.

SPEAKER_06

Oh, it was the season finale. So how she said.

SPEAKER_02

The season finale. It was season finale, which a lot of people probably feel like, damn, it was loud. A lot of people feel like it's the series finale, because after like if Rue's not in it, if Zenday's not in it, like, what are we talking about?

SPEAKER_06

Um is it official? She's dead, dead, like yeah, she died, bro.

SPEAKER_02

She died. She um, you haven't been watching this, so obviously she was with this uh this casino owner, not a casino, he's a strip club owner. My man, my man from um Oz, the black African dude. I forgot his name. You know what I'm talking about. Atabisi? Uh yeah, Atabisi. And um she was also working with the DEA. And long story short, um she helped set up people, and he knew it. And he knew that she was a drug addict, a former drug addict, and he was like, Thank you for getting my money back. Here's some painkillers because you got your hand, whatever. And she took the painkillers home. And um, yeah, she just she OD'd on on um Coleman Domingo's couch. She woke up the next morning and um it ended. But the way they did it was she went to sleep, and then they showed her um trying to get to meet Fez, who, you know, Fez died two years ago. I forgot what he died of. And uh, you know, they made a thing like he broke out of prison and she was driving a car and they had things blocked on him. She ran and she got to her home and she saw her mom waiting for her, and then she was reaching for her mom's, you know, the the screen, she couldn't grab her mom's, and then they went black, and then they showed Coleman waking up, repeating the scene, and then he touched her, and then um, yeah, so she she died, bro. Um fitting in for her.

SPEAKER_06

So so yeah, so that's about just he O Daddy.

SPEAKER_02

No, she died, bro. She died. No, she she's dead. Like, literally, she died because like the next scene it was like three months later, and was like can we break it down tonight?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Ice camera.

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