EP #7 - Slacker Dave Loves Matt Steinhausen Part Deux

This is episode number 7 of the Slacker Dave Loves Nebraska podcast!
On this episode David Rabe sits down at O'Rourke's Tavern with Matt Steinhausen, author of the books The Least Interesting Place and The Unauthorized Biography of Lincoln, Nebraska, about all things Nebraska. Thing go off the rails quickly but topics include: the highest and lowest spots in Nebraska, Willa Cather's rainbow stamp, why are barns red, why do cowboys put their boots and fenceposts, Zipline, the murder of Adrian Barstow and Zoo Bar owner Amanda Waters pops in for a quick interview about Hartington, Nebraska!

Transcript

SPEAKER_02 0:08

Love the fresco Stephen Russell Wilson Will to Slacker Two Loves the Bresca Soak Sopret with cheese the one who loves us all the husband through and through slacker days loves Nebraska Slacker Dave Loves Nebraska Slacker Dave loves Nebraska And now Slacker Dave.

SPEAKER_06 0:48

Hey, hello, how are you doing? Uh welcome back to the Slacker Dave Loves Nebraska podcast. I believe this is episode seven. Seven. Perfect number for me. Yes. Back out of Rorks, and I am joined today by Matt Steinhausen. I want to thank everybody for listening and all that kind of fun stuff. Subscribing, comments. Please comment. Ask us, ask me questions that you want me to ask Matt because he's gonna come on again. Anything else? Oh yeah. Thank you, Kane, for uh producing. Thank you, Amanda, for being my wife. And uh Matt, and I are gonna talk about Nebraska today. It's just straight Nebraska talk. It's all Nebraska all the time until we get thrown off the rails, like uh good uh engineers that we are, uh horrible engineers that we are. Uh uh oh, I do want to uh give a uh rest uh RIP zip line just to start the day off.

SPEAKER_00 1:54

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:55

Lots of friends uh lost their job the other day, and um yeah. Hearts are going on to them. Uh good people, good beer. Good beer, good people.

SPEAKER_00 2:06

Crappy situation.

SPEAKER_06 2:08

Crappy situation. That's all we're gonna say.

SPEAKER_00 2:10

That's all for we're saying for now.

SPEAKER_06 2:12

That's all we're saying for now. Uh all right. Uh Matt, as you know, is the uh Sliger Dave Love Nebraska official Nebraskan historian. Uh you're you I don't know. I just I didn't even know that.

SPEAKER_00 2:26

Do you didn't know that?

SPEAKER_06 2:27

I just uh I just you are now official uh historian for the Sliger Dave Loves Nebraska podcast. Uh I didn't get to go to Wisner. I learned a lot more about Wisner and talked to Greg and uh told him he needed to write a book.

SPEAKER_00 2:40

I enjoyed that. I watched that. And Greg and Greg co-hosted a show with you on uh Slacker Dave Morning Show recently.

SPEAKER_06 2:47

Yep, he tries to come up like twice a year, and uh um and he has four he has thousands and thousands and thousands of 45s, and he's just he's got some he's got the knowledge. He used to do it professionally. It's fun, he comes up. I I try to just I distract him by asking him some questions about Wisner, and then he's like, no, people want to hear music, and then you know right.

SPEAKER_00 3:10

No, he's a throwback. Uh it was like listening to the radio when I was a kid, FM, you know, because he's a throwback DJ, and I I love it. That's that's fun to listen to him. I'm glad you had him on again.

SPEAKER_06 3:20

Man of many talents that Greg Moore. And then, you know, uh doing that uh Heritage Museum up there. Yeah, and uh it's a lot of work. Um uh and I just saw Denton opened up a museum. They did. Uh well, might have to go there one of these days.

SPEAKER_00 3:37

Maybe it would uh open on Monday afternoons.

SPEAKER_06 3:39

Open on Monday afternoons, okay. Maybe I can get Mr. Rosencranz to go with me.

SPEAKER_00 3:44

Yeah, that'd be good. Doug or James or Doug.

SPEAKER_06 3:47

Bring Doug along. Yeah, that's uh family has a long history in Denton.

SPEAKER_00 3:52

Doug would be a great interview to talk about music too.

SPEAKER_06 3:56

Yes, that's what I'm I mean. I got it all with him. You know, we got the whole town of Denton and uh an amazing uh music career. Yeah, yeah, for sure.

SPEAKER_00 4:07

All right, uh so uh before you go, I have to interrupt because we're going off the rail right now. Please do, please do, please do. I I I have my hat on, which I normally don't wear hat indoors, but we're not indoors.

SPEAKER_04 4:18

Oh, yeah, we are indoors.

SPEAKER_00 4:19

Technically, we're in the beer garden at our orcs. Yes, and so and I want to say, otherwise I would not have the hat on because I'm I'm still Nebraska polite. Take my hat off when indoors uh most of the time. Uh unless I don't have a place to put it.

SPEAKER_05 4:34

Yes, yes, yep.

SPEAKER_00 4:35

And then I leave it hooked to my head. But uh the other funny thing is going straight off the rails, this hat is not from Nebraska, it's from Wyoming. It has a brand on it. I don't know if you can see that brand. Yeah, anybody that knows brands, do you know what that brand is? Do you know brands? Do you know how to read a brand?

SPEAKER_04 4:52

No, no.

SPEAKER_00 4:53

Well, that's a two.

SPEAKER_04 4:54

Yep.

SPEAKER_00 4:54

And that's a lazy two.

SPEAKER_04 4:57

Oh.

SPEAKER_00 4:57

And a P. It's the two lazy to P brand.

SPEAKER_03 5:02

Oh my god. So here we are.

SPEAKER_06 5:05

Boo boo, I love it.

SPEAKER_00 5:09

So uh Wyoming, we love Wyoming. I it's neighboring state, and uh this one's from uh this one's from actually Wheatland, Wyoming. Um which we'll look at your computer at halftime to see where Wheatland is. But I'm gonna say it's a friend of Nebraska.

SPEAKER_06 5:27

Uh yeah, I brought the computer today. If we have any questions uh amongst ourselves, we can try to look them up, but I don't know if it's as fun as the mystery.

SPEAKER_00 5:36

The mystery is always more interesting than the solution.

SPEAKER_06 5:39

Uh uh fun point, fun fact, I just learned uh the highest point in Nebraska.

SPEAKER_00 5:45

I'd say around 5,000, 4,000 some odd feet.

SPEAKER_06 5:49

And where at?

SPEAKER_00 5:51

Uh I'd I'd be guessing, but it's Panhandle, obviously. Uh somewhere in the uh, I am guessing near Crawford, or maybe further south in the Panhandle. I don't know.

SPEAKER_06 6:05

Okay, uh it uh Panorama Point is the name. Okay. Uh it is in the southwestern Kimball County.

SPEAKER_00 6:14

Okay, so it's in the southwestern Panhandle County.

SPEAKER_06 6:16

It's where Nebraska and Wyoming meet on Colorado's northern boundary. Yes. Yes, 5,450.

SPEAKER_00 6:23

It is almost a it's a mile, almost a mile.

SPEAKER_06 6:26

Yep, yep.

SPEAKER_00 6:28

Wow.

SPEAKER_06 6:29

Yep. And uh uh it's the lowest uh spot.

SPEAKER_00 6:35

Well, that's gotta be down by Rulow's Richardson County kind of thing, down southeast, you know, in the very southeast. Well, I'm gonna say around a thousand, uh, maybe right around a thousand, give or take, a couple hundred.

SPEAKER_06 6:52

All right. It is 840 feet. Right on. And it's the uh Missouri River at the Kansas border. Exactly. Right there is the lowest.

SPEAKER_00 7:02

Well, and that's a funny thing too. Did you know? Uh by the way, you've already proven I'm not Nebraska's expert in trivia because I didn't know the high points. Oh, no, no, no.

SPEAKER_06 7:10

Nobody should know that.

SPEAKER_00 7:11

That's like actually, I did know that, but I I was thinking it couldn't be because I figured it'd have to be further north, you know, up near, you know, this black hill. It makes sense.

SPEAKER_06 7:20

Totally logical.

SPEAKER_00 7:21

Fort Robinson. But uh the other thing I was gonna say about Nebraska and that, you know, how the west edge of the panhandle in the east corner, everything, every river in Nebraska is a tributary to the Missouri River.

SPEAKER_04 7:35

Oh, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 7:36

Everything flows east, more or less.

SPEAKER_06 7:39

Yes, yes. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 7:41

Uh which is I think is kind of cool.

SPEAKER_06 7:44

Which uh, what is it? The uh what's the creek that comes through the city?

SPEAKER_00 7:48

Salt Creek or Antelope Creek.

SPEAKER_06 7:50

Antelope Creek comes comes north.

SPEAKER_00 7:53

It does.

SPEAKER_06 7:53

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 7:54

Yes, but then it ties into Salt Creek. It goes to Platte River.

SPEAKER_06 7:58

Yep, yep, yeah, yep, yep. All the way to the road.

SPEAKER_00 8:00

Goes into the Missouri River.

SPEAKER_06 8:01

Uh and you know, the highest part, more the arid, not as definitely uh high plains. High plains, south part forest.

SPEAKER_00 8:14

Yes, yes. And if you cross, you ever notice in Nebraska there's a lot of center pivots to irrigate our fields?

SPEAKER_05 8:21

Yes, yep.

SPEAKER_00 8:22

You go over to Iowa, you get across the Missouri River, there are hardly any. It's because the further east you get, the more rainfall there is, annual rainfall. Um, and it's because of the way the mountains configured west of us and the way the storms developed or the rains develop. And it's uh that's why Iowa gets much more rain than Nebraska. That's why they don't have as many pivots.

SPEAKER_06 8:44

I do love that spot when you're driving to Colorado where the clouds start. Yeah, yeah. It just looks like a little factory of clouds coming out, you know. Ooh, we uh came up from uh we had a wedding to go to in Missouri and right northwest, northeast of uh Kansas City, Holt Kearney, Kearney area. Very cool area. Uh but when we're coming back, thunderstorm. We got to see the driving into Nebraska, thunderstorm, the Kansas-Nebraska border. Right. Oh, those things are always so great right there. Like that that spot, or like there's that spot through Kansas where they start and they come up, and they're either gonna go south of us or they start a little farther back and then they go north of us.

SPEAKER_00 9:33

Right, yeah. Well, it's fun. If you're coming from the south, uh southeast, then you're watching that storm kind of move towards the north and east. It's you're watching, you're getting a profile of it. So it's a great view. And the sun is at your back, so you're getting to see the sun illuminate those clouds that are bubbling and and boiling over. It's a great view. I love it.

SPEAKER_06 9:55

Oh, yeah, yeah. Love me some weather in Nebraska. I do too. I do too.

SPEAKER_00 10:02

And that's one of the great things about Nebraska, especially in the in the great the Great Plains, is that we there's a lot of places where we don't have a lot of obstructions, such as mountains or power lines, or trees or forests. So we have this panorama. It's funny you mentioned the panoramic view, but we have this panorama. One of the things I always say, I love watching Nebraska rainbows.

SPEAKER_05 10:22

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 10:23

But if you're always watching the rainbow, you're gonna miss the sunset.

SPEAKER_05 10:26

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 10:27

If it's an evening rainbow. If it's a morning rainbow, the saying would be the opposite. You'd miss a sunrise.

SPEAKER_06 10:32

We have a picture Amanda and I do of we went to uh we went out west, uh, Carhinge and just took a sand hill standing weekend and just drove around. Right. Uh and we stopped at Oli's Big Game Bar.

SPEAKER_07 10:47

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 10:48

And as we're outside, there we have a great picture of us with a like there's a double rainbow happening right behind us. And it just, oh, such a such an amazing uh thing happening right there. Yeah. Yeah. Yep, I love them. All right. So you uh had some topics you wanted to talk about. We have a lot of them.

SPEAKER_00 11:07

Well, one of them is pretty timely topics. You guys know that uh they're gonna move William Jennings Bryan's house, Fairview. Oh so if you know where Brian Memorial Hospital is, East Campus at Brian Memorial at about 48th and Cotton A, between A and South.

SPEAKER_03 11:28

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 11:29

Uh anyway, that's where the hospital Lincoln Lincoln's Bryan Memorial Hospital, Brian LGH East. And it was established uh because William Jennings Bryan, a politician, a populist politician, donated the land and some of the money to create this hospital. Well, anyway, his house uh was built in 1902 and it stood right next to the hospital, and it had been used for dormitory nurses, uh uh training nurses uh dorms, apartments, uh offices. It has been used in conjunction with the operation of the hospital uh in different ways over the course of the last hundred years. Well, now the hospital wants to move that house after 125 years of it sitting in the same place. It's an all-brick house. It was gonna be a challenging move. The house was designed in part by a gentleman, uh Artemis Roberts, whose son started Roberts Dairy in Lincoln.

SPEAKER_05 12:33

Oh, wow.

SPEAKER_00 12:34

If you've heard of you, yeah. And the Roberts family lived near where Fairview is. They their farm was near 56th and South Street, near Roberts Park, which is at 56th and A Street. Uh so anyway, all these connections. The Roberts were tied into William Jennings Bryan. William Jennings Bryan's home was near there, and at the time it was in the country, quite a ways out in the country, and he had a large orchards, and all those neighborhoods uh between you know 48th Street and 40th Street were part of Bryan's farm and orchards.

SPEAKER_05 13:05

Oh, wow.

SPEAKER_00 13:06

Yeah, and uh they all got developed in the 40s and 50s, I think, mostly, but there were some other houses, kind of houses that are in those neighborhoods that were there before the development, and then all these newer houses got built around them. But Brian's house is just part of that whole fair view, is what it's called, because it had a fair view. It was on the top of a hill overlooking. He had a great view of the city from up there. Now we have too many trees, you can't really see it. But if you go up to the top floor of Bryan Memorial Hospital, you'll see it's a great view of the city from there. But I just want to talk about Fairview because it's appropriate to talk about now considering that it's gonna get moved. So if anybody wants to go see it, now would be a good time to see it before it gets moved.

SPEAKER_06 13:46

So are they gonna have to jack it up and they think they're gonna be able to get bricks and yeah, they can.

SPEAKER_00 13:54

They can put eye beams or you know, more or less underneath it and lift it all up, but it's a challenging thing to do. It's challenging, but progress, so be it. I I hate to see it, I don't want to see it move, but uh everything changes, and the more I embrace uh things staying the same, the more they change, so I try to let it go.

SPEAKER_06 14:13

Some things happen, some things don't need to happen, but some things happen, and you just gotta, you know, you wake up the next day.

SPEAKER_00 14:21

Which reminds me of something else related to William Jennings Bryan that changed.

SPEAKER_04 14:25

Oh, please, please.

SPEAKER_00 14:27

His there's a statue in front of this house, a huge bronze statue. That statue at one time sat at the north steps of the state capitol. Oh and then it got moved to the front of William Jennings Bryant's home. But the reason I bring that up is because Dick Cabot and his buddies back in the 50s or 60s. Don't know my years, but they vandalized it over like Memorial Day weekend.

SPEAKER_04 14:55

Oh.

SPEAKER_00 14:55

And they poured white paint all over it. The William Jennings Bryan statue when it was standing in front of the state capitol. Yeah. And uh the crime went unsolved for a long time, but I take that back. It didn't go unsolved. But the details were unknown until Dick Cabot revealed them later on in life. But no, that his friends, one of his friends squealed like a pig when confronted with the law and the consequences of being caught lying about vandalizing William Jennings Bryan's bronze sculpture in front of the state capitol.

SPEAKER_06 15:28

Why did they move it from the state capitol in the first? Do you know?

SPEAKER_00 15:34

And this is a situation where I think the mystery is more interesting than the solution. Which is my way of saying I don't know.

SPEAKER_06 15:40

Yeah, yeah, you don't know. I don't know. Any stories? Any rumors? Okay.

SPEAKER_00 15:46

Uncle I read about it and its movement. And I think it might be similar to how you know the guy that started Arbor Day or uh Jay Sterling Morton.

SPEAKER_05 16:01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 16:02

Did you know his statue used to stand in front in uh like statuary hall at in Washington, D.C.? No. But then they moved it out. Now the reason part of the reason they moved it out is because uh it turns out he was uh not opposed to slavery. Oh and so it was kind of like, hey man, maybe we should put someone else there in his place.

SPEAKER_05 16:23

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 16:24

Uh William Jennings Bryan, not the same as that.

SPEAKER_05 16:27

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 16:28

But I do think Abraham Lincoln was on the West side of the Capitol. Putting William Jennings Bryan at the main entry is kind of saying, like, you're as big as Abraham Lincoln. And I think popular opinion is, hey, you know, let's let's give him a more modest position, considering he didn't represent all of us.

SPEAKER_04 16:49

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 16:50

He was a member of the, you know, he was a presidential candidate, one of the youngest presidential nominees of all time. Uh fascinating guy. He was an enigma, uh, totally uh very religious. Um, but he most of his positions were the opposite of what the religious uh right would be considered today. Uh everybody he wouldn't, he wouldn't have a he would be he wouldn't have no political party if he were alive today because he would be, like I said, an enigma.

SPEAKER_05 17:23

Oh, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 17:24

And that would be a conversation for another time when I'm better prepared. But I came here today as slackered Matt.

SPEAKER_05 17:30

Yeah. Unprepared.

SPEAKER_00 17:32

Unprepared. Um while we're going with timeliness though, yeah. I'm gonna steer this thing like another right now. We're recording in June. We might not get make the air until July, but it's June, and this is the weekend of pride.

SPEAKER_03 17:47

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 17:48

Uh, and I think the pride thing's important in Lincoln because as I did my research, uh I was fascinated by how much uh Lincoln is integrated into what I'll call the queer community and has been, and I'm using that term loosely, but I don't want to have to say LGBTQ INA or everybody. Everybody so I anyway, I just don't want to be I don't want to be cornhold as being a guy who is and I and if I'm saying it wrong, I want to know. Call message Facebook Dave and let him know and let me know. But anyway, the queer community you know, uh Willick Hather came here in 1890s, early to mid 1890s from Red Cloud, Nebraska, where she wore men's boys' clothes, went by the nickname Willie, just kind of was but was very well liked, came here and didn't really shed much of that. Uh, continued to uh show interest in other women, though not uh sexual by nature necessarily, just friends shed.

SPEAKER_03 18:54

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 18:54

She didn't have uh she didn't follow societal norms, but she also didn't flaunt it. And I think that's important to note because I think everybody that knew her knew she wasn't necessarily heterosexual, but on the other hand, that she didn't try to, you know, just persuade anybody or have any influence on anybody, but she didn't shame anybody that believed or thought anywhere anything other than that. The reason I bring all this up is she was a Pulser Prize-winning author. She left Nebraska, lived in New York, lived in Pittsburgh, and traveled a lot, traveled to the southwest. She had a partner who she met in Lincoln named Edith Lewis. And she and Edith Lewis met in that house that's across from the Capitol. It's called the uh the Harris House. I think it has some law offices in it, right?

SPEAKER_05 19:43

Probably, probably.

SPEAKER_00 19:44

But she was there visiting her friend Sarah Harris and Edith Lewis was there visiting too. And Edith and Willett made a had a conversation in the parlor. One thing led to another, and they became lifelong partners. Just down the street from the Harris House, one block to the uh west, is the Woodman Accident and Life Company building with the naked people in the front. The owner of that company, the guy that started it, he was a Faulkner. But his granddaughter was uh Virginia Faulkner. And I recently read this book about Virginia Faulkner, and it's fascinating. Raised in Lincoln, drove around in a sportster smoking cigarettes when she was a teenager. Uh she ended up becoming an author, moved all over. But in the 1950s or 60s, she comes back to Lincoln to teach and be part of the prairie schooner and do some other things and uh maybe get a solid footing underground on her feet because she had lived a pretty wild life in New York and California. Comes back to Lincoln, works as an author and editor, writes a book about Nebraska, and then researches in writing this book about Nebraska, she researches Willa Cather, who she'd grown up knowing about but didn't really know much about. And when she realized Cather's how what a great author she was, and more about her personality and her lifestyle, she became enamored with her and she helped lead the movement to preserve and restore Willa Cather's legacy.

SPEAKER_05 21:17

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 21:18

And in doing so, she What years were this? She came back into Nebraska in the 50s, 60s, was do when she was doing a lot of this work in the Cather stuff. And in 1974, she convinced her brother, who had a lot of political influence because he was running the Woodman Accident Life Company, convinced her brother to talk to some congresspersons who he was very well acquainted with, probably was a donor of, and told him, hey, my sister wants Willa Cather on the U.S. stamp. So they created a memorial, a commemorative postage stamp with Willa Cather's picture on it in eight in 1974.

SPEAKER_03 21:56

Oh wow.

SPEAKER_00 21:57

So Willa Cather made it on the U.S. stamp in 1974. Thanks for the work of Virginia Falker. But the reason I'm bringing all this up is persecution wasn't an issue. Nobody talked about it. It wasn't but that stamp in 1974 had a rainbow on it.

SPEAKER_04 22:13

Oh wow.

SPEAKER_00 22:15

The rainbow wasn't identified with the queer community until two years later when Harvey Milk put it on the flags for the parade in San Francisco two years later. So the reason I bring it up is Willie Cather might be the first member of the gay community or the first representation of the rainbow with the queer community.

SPEAKER_06 22:37

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_00 22:38

Yep. You heard it here first.

SPEAKER_06 22:41

Hold it up here.

SPEAKER_00 22:43

Now Dave also asks, he's like, what do you are you sure about this? And I'm like, no, I'm not sure. But the mystery is more interesting than the solution. See that stamp? There's the rainbow.

SPEAKER_06 22:55

Yeah, wow.

SPEAKER_00 22:57

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 22:58

That's pretty cool.

SPEAKER_00 23:02

We should go out and get some as collector's items. For a Nebraska collection.

SPEAKER_06 23:09

I wonder how much something like that costs.

SPEAKER_00 23:12

Well, we'll find out. We'll do another podcast and talk about it.

SPEAKER_06 23:15

All right. That'll be our follow-up. Yeah, yeah. There we go. There we go. We need to have notes. We should be taking notes.

SPEAKER_00 23:21

We don't need to take notes, we can watch it.

SPEAKER_06 23:23

Oh my god, yes, you're so smart.

SPEAKER_00 23:24

That's why we're recording it.

SPEAKER_06 23:26

Uh yeah, that's cool.

SPEAKER_00 23:29

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 23:30

Oh, fun.

SPEAKER_00 23:32

Hey, I'll tell you what's fun. I always say Lincoln's the one degree of separation city.

SPEAKER_06 23:37

Oh, totally, totally.

SPEAKER_00 23:38

We walk in here right off the bat, people we know.

SPEAKER_03 23:41

Oh is, always, always.

SPEAKER_00 23:43

I just think that's so cool to go pretty much anywhere in the city. Literally, almost anywhere. And you see someone you know. We were talking when we started Omaha's population. I don't think we recorded it. No, we weren't recording it, but that Omaha's the metro is over a million now.

SPEAKER_06 23:59

Yeah, they say one to one point two, something like that.

SPEAKER_00 24:02

I don't know what Lincoln Lincoln really doesn't have a metro.

SPEAKER_06 24:05

No.

SPEAKER_00 24:06

Uh Hickman and Way really.

SPEAKER_06 24:09

Hickman.

SPEAKER_00 24:10

Uh Malcolm, but uh, you know, we're at over 300,000, almost 350 now.

SPEAKER_06 24:14

Let's see what the uh uh let's see what the machine says. Uh population of according to the 2024 estimated was uh 300 and 619.

SPEAKER_00 24:30

300,000? Yep, 619, so more or less 301,000.

SPEAKER_06 24:36

Yep, yep, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 24:36

301.

SPEAKER_06 24:38

We called it 301. 2020 census, it was uh 291,000.

SPEAKER_00 24:43

So we grew 10,000 since then, and it's gonna continue to keep growing.

SPEAKER_06 24:50

Yes.

SPEAKER_00 24:50

Hey, let's talk about data centers.

SPEAKER_06 24:52

No.

SPEAKER_00 24:53

No, I was kidding, that's a total joke.

SPEAKER_06 24:56

The only thing I want data centers to do, I think before here's my law that we're gonna put in. If you're gonna put in a data center, it can only work on how to make energy uh free and un uh unlimited, and how not to use so much water to make the data center work. That's like before you do any other calculations, those are the only things those data centers can do until until you figure that out, you know, your costs are gonna be, you know, you know what I mean.

SPEAKER_00 25:30

To be fair, so we're not hypocrites.

SPEAKER_06 25:33

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 25:34

This podcast is probably being uh routed through a data center to get to the show. So I don't want to be a hypocrite.

SPEAKER_05 25:42

No, no.

SPEAKER_00 25:43

But that's why I don't uh I don't have a smartphone, or you know, and and but when we look this stuff up, we're using a data center.

SPEAKER_06 25:49

Well, yeah, I know. I mean, I'm just saying, like all these new data.

SPEAKER_00 25:53

I'm with you, I'm with you. I think that's a hypocrisy of if data centers are so great, why can't they figure out how to make themselves work more efficiently?

SPEAKER_06 25:59

Yes, that's the only thing they should be working on. Yeah. And uh, I mean, yes, I want them to cure all diseases and cancers and stuff. Yes, but you know, uh I don't think you need to help somebody's resume until you can figure out how to do uh and for the record, no data centers have affected uh the the uh the humor in the show, obviously.

SPEAKER_00 26:26

No, no, this is all human-made folly.

SPEAKER_06 26:31

You know, maybe uh in a couple years we're gonna listen to this again, and it's gonna have like all different words on how great data centers are and stuff like that. Like we're gonna just AI and change that, we're gonna sneak that in there, you know. Yeah and then you know, we're gonna have uh, I'm always gonna have my sunglasses with me just in case, you know, because of uh of Roddy Rider Piper, because you gotta see, you know, who the humans and who the uh No, I didn't know that, but I have you ever seen the movie They Live, uh Roddy Roddy Piper, uh amazing movie, great sci-fi movie. Uh he finds these sunglasses in a box.

unknown 27:10

Okay.

SPEAKER_06 27:11

And and when he puts them on, he can see that some people are like aliens, like, and they're like, I think he can see us, you know, and stuff like that. So they figure out that he has and there's all this uh what's the word I'm looking for? Like uh uh uh um well what's the stuff that they used to run behind the ads that like driving subliminal messages by like obey. Yeah, right. You know, the corporation is the best, you know, stuff like this and propaganda. Propaganda, and but but it you can't see it subliminal propaganda unless you don't have the classes, and then you yeah uh his famous uh someone must have uh soccer, someone's watching soccer.

SPEAKER_07 27:54

Oh, right.

SPEAKER_06 27:54

Uh uh so uh uh he goes uh time uh to uh chew chew bubblegum or kick ass, and I'm all out of bubblegum. That's a good line.

SPEAKER_00 28:07

I've heard that before, or something along those lines.

SPEAKER_06 28:09

Right, you're right of Piper, one of the greatest uh wrestlers of all time.

SPEAKER_00 28:13

Speaking of wrestling, you know that uh we're at 27.

SPEAKER_06 28:17

27?

SPEAKER_00 28:18

We're gonna take a break at 30.

SPEAKER_06 28:20

Yeah, I take a break at 30.

SPEAKER_00 28:22

So I'm gonna I'm gonna switch gears, but it goes along with your thing about the sunglasses.

SPEAKER_04 28:26

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 28:26

Total tangential, but um, that's we we do the tangents. I'm wearing overalls. I yes, and it's because I was I wore them working and yesterday and I I slacker Matt. I didn't have time to change. For the record, Dave let me know that we're meeting here an hour before we met her here.

SPEAKER_06 28:44

Well, actually, I said it two hours before. Okay, but I didn't get it until we had two an hour before. Because we hadn't decided where exactly we decided when.

SPEAKER_00 28:54

So but I went I went full slacker on this. But the I as I was coming here and thinking about today's show and Lake and Nebraska and everything, I I had a story, and it's about my daughter who's in Albany, New York. Oh she she worked at Trader Joe's here in Lincoln, and she moved to Albany and she's working at Trader Joe's there. And I believe she's also working as a barista somewhere, but at one of her jobs, probably at Trader Joe's, she was wearing one of my leftover overalls. I've given her my hand-me-down.

SPEAKER_04 29:23

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 29:24

And some guy walked in to Trader Joe's or wherever she's working, and he says, looks her up and down and says, Where are we? Nebraska?

SPEAKER_05 29:35

Oh nice, nice.

SPEAKER_00 29:38

It freaked her out a little bit because he thought she was, she thought he was stalking her. Like, how did you know I was from Nebraska?

SPEAKER_04 29:45

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 29:45

Because we don't think of Nebraskans as wearing overalls any more than anybody from Kentucky wears overalls.

SPEAKER_04 29:49

Oh no, no, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 29:51

You know, but so, and I don't even think people do, but for whatever reason, we're stereotyped as the overall wearing people.

SPEAKER_06 29:58

I don't see a Nebraska.

SPEAKER_00 30:00

I didn't think so either, but some guy in Albany, New Yorkster did. Oh yeah. Maybe you just thought Nebraska was a funny word and used Nebraska. Because Nebraska is a funny word if you're not from Nebraska. Oh yeah, totally, totally. Think about it. I mean, we think Mississippi's funny.

SPEAKER_06 30:15

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 30:16

And but they don't think it's funny.

SPEAKER_06 30:18

Can you say the word Mississippi with someplace in your brain not going M-I-S-S-I-S-S-I-P-P-I?

SPEAKER_00 30:23

Of course not. It's etched.

SPEAKER_06 30:25

Yeah. Can you uh can you hear the number 12 without going one, two, three, four, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven, twelve. Boo-doo, boom, boom, boo. Boo-doo-boo. 12. I used to have to, when I worked at the t-shirt shop, you'd have to count dozens, so it'd be like one, two, two. One, two, three, four, five. You know, it just was fun.

SPEAKER_00 30:45

Do you remember that Sesame Street thing where the guy says, the wife says, Harold, you drive me up the wall. He goes, huh? She goes, you drive me up the wall. And he says, okay. And he puts his recliner in gear and he goes, rum, room. And he drives it, fix it. He falls on her slap on the chair, and he drives the recliner up the wall. Oh wow. I thought that was the funniest thing. That was that was Matt. And to this day, that's where my favorite kind of humor is.

SPEAKER_06 31:12

Like that kind of pun. You know, back then when you were a little kid, you didn't need psychedelic drugs because it came right out of you. They was giving it to you wholeheartedly. You know, that old HR Huff and Puff stuff, man. That's like if you want to buzz.

SPEAKER_00 31:28

I'm telling you, still to this day when I hear um superstition.

SPEAKER_06 31:35

Oh yeah. Oh, the Saturday night live one.

SPEAKER_00 31:37

No, the Sesame.

SPEAKER_06 31:38

No, Sesame Street. Sorry, sorry. The kid in the the there's the kid dancing.

SPEAKER_00 31:43

It's so good. Anyway, that that's uh Stevie Wander, Superstition, right?

SPEAKER_03 31:49

Yep, yeah. It's so good.

SPEAKER_00 31:50

So to this, that I just have always loved that song. And to this day, funk, that funk, I I I attribute it to Sesame Street.

SPEAKER_06 31:59

That might be one of my favorite versions of that song. Uh fun side note, uh Ray Parker Jr. is playing guitar for him.

SPEAKER_00 32:07

No, I didn't know.

SPEAKER_06 32:08

Uh the man himself of Ghostbusters. No, I didn't.

SPEAKER_00 32:12

I had no idea.

SPEAKER_06 32:12

Yeah, he's playing good guitar for uh for uh Stevie Wonder at that time. He's just sitting there just doing the right and they uh they talked about I read some interviews uh with that band, and they were like that was just an extended like they were just jamming and they followed him. And if you watch that band during that thing, they're all just staring at Stevie because Stevie does he had like signals that he would give, but nobody else knew the signals or whatever. But they had to subliminal, they just had to stay on him the whole time, and that was just one that right that that version, that whole Saturday Night Live, there's a kid dancing. Well, I'm talking about not Saturday Night Live. No, I'm sorry, I know Sesame Street, that's okay. I don't know why I keep saying Saturday Night Live, that's been on the brain. But the Sesame Street, there's a you know, a kid on the balcony, all the kids are dancing, all the Muppets are going. Man. Ooh, that not very Nebraska, but you know.

SPEAKER_00 33:12

Uh it was a little bit well, youth, yeah. We started we went on the tangent, and we told you in the beginning we're going on tangents.

SPEAKER_05 33:20

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 33:20

But that's a good segue to the break because when we come back after these ads, which I love the ads.

SPEAKER_05 33:26

Thank you, thank you.

SPEAKER_00 33:27

And I did not know Rick sold insurance.

SPEAKER_05 33:29

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 33:30

And so next time I'm getting insurance, I'm gonna stop and check out Rick.

SPEAKER_04 33:33

Why the good guy just the best?

SPEAKER_00 33:35

But anyway, but when we come back, we're gonna talk about two things that I've been wanting to talk about a long time, that I love to talk about all the time. A couple things where the mystery is more interesting than solutions. Oh, yeah, so much. One of them is why do they put cowboy boots? Why do cowboys put their boots on fence posts?

SPEAKER_04 33:52

Okay. Okay.

SPEAKER_00 33:53

The other one is why are barns red? Everybody thinks they know why barns are red, you know, mixed iron oxide paint with some linseed oil and some eggs or milk and put it on the side of a barn.

SPEAKER_06 34:03

But that's not the only reason barns are red. We're gonna find out coming up right after these uh ads are sponsors. Uh thank you. Yeah. Hey y'all, I just want to thank uh Rourke's Tavern for sponsoring Slacker Dave Loves Nebraska. Rourke's Tavern, it's Lincoln's downtown. It's like a neighborhood bar right in the middle of downtown. We're at 1329 O Street, and uh, you know, Rourke's I've always described as kind of like the backstage to the Lincoln uh musical community. They do fun things all year round, they got specials every day, they got two pool tables, they do dance parties, they got a chili cook-off every year. So if you just want a nice, relaxing time, come on down, see Jordy and the whole family down here at O'Rourke. Thank you. Hey, want to give a big thank you to Rick Peters for sponsoring the Slacker Dave Love Nebraska podcast. Rick is an independent insurance agent, uh, AMS Insurance Center. The phone number is 402-476-3599. He's a great guy, great personal service. Amanda and I have been uh customers of his for years. He just real good guy. You just you want to come see him. But the most important thing about Rick is he is a host of not one but two shows on KZUM 89.3 FM. Uh he hosts Rockin' Bones on Friday nights from 6 to 7:30. Rockabilly and all that kind of related fun music, and then Tuesday mornings from 6 a.m. to 8 a.m. It's the Sugar Frosted Chocolate Bomb Diggity Good Time Show. And you never know what you're gonna hear on there, but you know, they call him Rickabilly. I like to call him Rickopedia. He knows a lot. Great shows. Thank you very much. Hey, uh, I just want to thank uh Pete and Amanda from the Zoobar for sponsoring the Flacker Dave Loves Nebraska podcast. Zoobar, wonderful place. Live music almost every single night, sometimes most the weekends twice a night. Uh Zoo Fest, July 10th and 11th. Put that on your calendar. But thanks, Pete. You roll.

SPEAKER_00 36:38

When you come back, yeah, yeah. When you come back from the ads, does it have this shaky stuff?

SPEAKER_06 36:44

Sometimes he does the shaky stuff.

SPEAKER_00 36:45

As if I was gonna go like this.

SPEAKER_06 36:47

Yeah, yeah. Hey.

SPEAKER_00 36:50

I got a new pin to put on my hat.

SPEAKER_06 36:52

Hey, welcome back. Uh thank you, Aurorx and the Zubar and Rick Peters.

SPEAKER_07 36:58

Yes.

SPEAKER_06 36:59

Uh uh. Couldn't do this without them. And of course, uh Amanda. And then uh Kane Stevens, my uh Kane. My partner producer, the guy that edits. I mean, we don't edit anything. No, I mean, we just go straight through. I don't try to edit anything. Uh and then uh he puts in the stuff in the middle, makes it all work, and makes the he's got the the wizard part. He's the wizard.

SPEAKER_00 37:25

So you you don't edit this at all?

SPEAKER_06 37:26

No one edited at all.

SPEAKER_00 37:28

Now I'm all nervous.

SPEAKER_06 37:31

All right. Uh yeah, we're back. I'm here with uh Matt Steinhausen. Uh, in case you just joined us and somebody else is listening and you just joined along. Uh this is Slacker Dave Loves Nebraska Podcast. Uh please uh subscribe, uh follow all that kind of like, rate, review, you know, all that stuff helps. I mean, I'm never gonna have enough followers or watches to there's never gonna be any monetization of this, you know. Uh but uh well, I mean Matt Steinhausen is on the show today, so you know he is uh famous. Uh I've had some great guests, um Carter Van Pelt. I love that. I love Carter.

SPEAKER_00 38:14

I love it. You guys sat here?

SPEAKER_06 38:16

No, we sat in the other booth down there. Yeah down there. We just uh switched it up this time. We got it might have been a boulevard sign down there, but a different one. I don't know. I don't know. Yeah, we're at a rock's today. Thanks, Jordy, and uh Matt's working now. Matt's behind the bar right now. Uh thanks, Matt. Different Matt, not me. No, no.

SPEAKER_00 38:37

I'm not doing both. I'm not I'm not double taping.

SPEAKER_06 38:40

You know, uh I opened the bar sometimes at the zoo bar. Yeah. And I thought about what if I tried to interview somebody while I was working. I mean, I wonder if I could be done. But you know, of course I tried to do that time. That's when like all of a sudden some corporate party walks in with like 15 people uh that just got out of a meeting, and I would be, you know, but that would be fun. I've been trying to ask questions. I could I could walk away from the thing, just ask questions, and I don't know, maybe we'll might do that next one, man.

SPEAKER_00 39:13

That might need some editing. That might record.

SPEAKER_06 39:15

I don't know. I think it would be, I think the the train wreck might be better than the uh right there.

SPEAKER_00 39:22

Hey, if I can, you when when you had the show, the radio show with Greg on, you said something that has stuck with me ever since, and I loved it so much. You said, I wish someone would just walk into the zoo bar sometime when I'm working and say, quick, quick, what year is it?

SPEAKER_03 39:38

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 39:39

And you say 2026. And then they say, it worked.

SPEAKER_06 39:43

You gotta just run right out, right? Just run right out. Like it worked, and then run out, you know.

SPEAKER_00 39:49

I've been thinking about that the whole time. And then they say, like, I didn't come up with that.

SPEAKER_06 39:53

I stole that. I stole it.

SPEAKER_00 39:55

Well, that's okay. It made me laugh. And if you steal something, it makes me laugh. Yeah. I think the person that came, it makes us all happy. Even the person that created and got stolen from. If someone wants to steal my jokes to make people laugh, I'm all in.

SPEAKER_06 40:07

Well, uh two guys walk into a bar. Okay. Third one ducks.

SPEAKER_00 40:12

Oh, okay. You did not make that one up.

SPEAKER_06 40:15

No, no. No. Nah, it's still one of my faves. Off the rails. That's a walk-away joke. You gotta you gotta say that one, and then you just gotta walk away or run away. Irish could really, yeah, just get out of there. Because in that half second to comprehend what you just said, you're gone and they, you know, they can't hit you.

SPEAKER_00 40:36

Speaking of Irish, you ever heard of the Mc the M the the McGinn family?

SPEAKER_06 40:42

Yeah, the McGinn family. Yeah, oh heck yeah. Good friends.

SPEAKER_00 40:46

One of them works at Zipline for me.

SPEAKER_06 40:48

Yep, yep, yep. Brendan works at Zipline. Uh, known Brendan uh forever.

SPEAKER_00 40:52

Uh we're making this one.

SPEAKER_06 40:55

Zipline light, the okay, so Joe McGinn, the matriarch. Yes. Uh, and then you got Mary and Terry. Yes. Terry, amazing fiddle player. She bowl Terry, yeah. Yep, amazing fiddle player. Uh Brendan, all-around musician. Uh uh Bernie. Uh amazing I can't say enough, but I always consider Bernie one of the greatest people in the world. Uh lived in uh house with Bernie for a couple years. Went on some tours with Sideshow. Wow. Uh uh doing like sound and being the other guy, you know. Yeah, Roadie. So Brendan, who was brewer, uh uh I don't he like management, maybe? I don't remember exactly, Brendan. Let's call him Brew.

SPEAKER_00 41:44

Is it brew master?

SPEAKER_06 41:45

He's been a zip line forever. And uh so Joe told me, uh, Joe McGinn, she told me that she told them she was mad they didn't have a light beer because she likes a light beer, so they made a light beer.

SPEAKER_00 42:01

Look at it, it says zip light. Light, not zip line, zip line, it's kind of clever premium light beer.

SPEAKER_06 42:08

We always call it Joe's beer.

SPEAKER_00 42:10

Right on, you know, like well, here's the Joe and the McGinns.

SPEAKER_06 42:12

Yeah, yeah, here's the Brendan and all the family of Zip Line. And may uh they're too talented of a bunch to not have jobs for long.

SPEAKER_03 42:22

Right, right.

SPEAKER_06 42:24

And I played the lottery last night. I did not look to see if I won, but of course I didn't read any news that said somebody won in Lincoln, Nebraska. But otherwise, you know, we might be buying a brewery. Right. So but uh I didn't win the lottery, so it happened. And I don't drink, so maybe that's a good thing.

SPEAKER_00 42:43

You know, you don't uh actually I think people that run a brewery probably shouldn't drink.

SPEAKER_06 42:48

Well, you gotta taste it, you gotta make sure it tastes good, or you just have to have people you trust.

SPEAKER_00 42:53

Exactly. Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 42:54

That's how I bartend. I let people I trust like uh, hey, everybody drinks this beer right here. This must be a good beer. So if somebody says something, they suggest I suggest that, you know. But I, you know, I'm like, if this person likes it, then it must be good.

SPEAKER_07 43:08

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 43:08

It's kind of like reviewers of films and stuff, you know. Sometimes you sometimes you want to listen to the band because they liked it, and sometimes you want to listen because they didn't like it.

SPEAKER_00 43:18

You know, I mean, yeah. I'll be the judge.

SPEAKER_06 43:21

Well, no, I mean there's some reviewers you just know, well, maybe not as much anymore. I don't know if people, if there are really movie reviewers and stuff like that, other than social influencers. Yeah, that's what it is nowadays. Yeah, so I so yeah, that was a stupid statement, but uh I am I'm a slacker. But uh you know, you get to know you get to know a single reviewer, like uh, you know, on the paper, that was always El Kent.

SPEAKER_00 43:44

Yes, and Tom. Tom, I think did some review stuff.

SPEAKER_06 43:47

Jazz and stuff like that. But for like movies, it was always El Kent. And like yeah, I you get to know what El Kent likes and dislikes, and there's stuff that you know you like that he likes that if he You know, they're like this is the reason he likes it, this is going. But if this is the reason he hates it, then I'm going because sometimes there are certain things that I like that just because the reason that he, you know, not just because of him, but you know, like hey, for the record, I like most of the stuff he likes. Well, yeah, he's got ex taste. He I am I'm not saying I got good taste, but I do by the way, he is definitely on the list that I gotta ask somebody to be on that. I'm gonna ask uh Elkins. I've yeah, that's a good idea. Yeah, no, I've I had him on the radio show. I he's been a good supporter of the music community of Lincoln, Nebraska and the arts community of Lincoln, Nebraska for years. For sure. You know, and uh when he retired, you know. Well, good for him. He got to retire. That's the isn't that the isn't that the isn't that a winning spot on your life is if you make it there and you can do it.

SPEAKER_00 44:53

And then retire from it?

SPEAKER_06 44:54

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 44:55

On your own terms? On your own terms, yeah, yeah. I think that's better than the alternative.

SPEAKER_06 45:01

Oh, somebody must have scored. The bad team must have scored in the soccer. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 45:07

We don't have to edit that out of the podcast.

SPEAKER_06 45:09

No, no. Okay, good. Good. But uh a quick story about Brennan McGinn. Yes. Uh I I worked for the University Program Council. I was the the coordinator on the university.

SPEAKER_00 45:20

Having sh concerts.

SPEAKER_06 45:21

Yep, doing concerts. I did concerts on campus. I did little concerts, big concerts, and uh, I did we did a couple Fugazi concerts.

SPEAKER_03 45:28

Right.

SPEAKER_06 45:28

And there was a Fugazi concert where uh uh Bernie's sideshow was opening.

SPEAKER_03 45:34

Right.

SPEAKER_06 45:34

But Brendan uh took a backstage pass that he got, went to Kinko's and printed off a bunch of backstage passes for his buddies. So they all had backstage passes.

SPEAKER_00 45:49

It just photocopied the original backstage passes.

SPEAKER_06 45:52

Yeah, he just went to Kinko's and made his own. And it was, you know. You can be mad, but then at the same time, like, dude, you went to that much work. You know, you're gonna I'm gonna let you, I'm gonna let you win this one. But I know what you did.

SPEAKER_00 46:08

Hey, uh, one of our sponsors just walked in the door. Can you sit here for just a minute? You're one of our sponsors, so you have to come in. We're we're live on well, not live, but we're recording, so put your head forward. Talk to us.

SPEAKER_06 46:22

We're talking about Nebraska. What quick hometown?

SPEAKER_01 46:26

Hardington.

SPEAKER_06 46:27

Hardington. Okay, we're gonna do Hardington quick. Ready?

SPEAKER_01 46:30

Okay.

SPEAKER_06 46:30

We're going to Hardington. Where's it at?

SPEAKER_01 46:33

Um straight north of here.

SPEAKER_06 46:35

Give us a little bit more.

SPEAKER_01 46:36

Uh from Wisner?

unknown 46:38

Oh, I like the world.

SPEAKER_01 46:39

An hour and a half.

SPEAKER_06 46:40

Like Wayne.

SPEAKER_01 46:41

Wayne, straight north.

SPEAKER_06 46:42

Straight north of Wayne on 15. Yes. On 15. Okay.

SPEAKER_00 46:45

Uh Cedar County touches touches the South Dakota border, does it not? Or does it leave? Maybe not quite. Okay. And you're Hardington proper. Uh did you grow Catholic?

SPEAKER_01 46:56

Yes. I went to Cedar Catholics high school.

SPEAKER_06 46:59

All right, all right.

SPEAKER_00 47:00

Uh, what's the county, what's the plate? 13 county.

SPEAKER_06 47:04

Um, Jan Jenkins. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 47:06

Chris Gayton.

SPEAKER_06 47:07

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 47:07

What's the card game they play up there? Uh Euchre and I play pitch, but I would bet Cedar County would say they play Euchre.

SPEAKER_06 47:15

Euchre and Euchre. Are you a cribbage person? Do you know Cribbage there? Gin, gin, gin rummy. Okay, so yeah, yeah, that was my game growing up with the bar. Mom and dad owned the bar. I played a lot of gin and uh side note quick. Uh sitting at the bar one time when I was younger, and mom had to be busy, so she made me play this guy that she was playing gin. She goes, You used to play it for me. And so uh I would just freight him. Uh he got kind of mad and uh didn't know, but they were gambled. They always are gambling, and I just won mom like you know, a bunch of games in a row or something like that. But uh all right, back to back to Hardington. Oh we're going to Hardington.

SPEAKER_01 48:02

Okay.

SPEAKER_06 48:02

Where are we eating?

SPEAKER_01 48:05

Shoot. Um there, I last time I was there, there's this new Mexican restaurant in the old Pizza Hut, and it was fabulous.

SPEAKER_04 48:12

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 48:13

And I'm really not sure what else. Oh, you can stop at the they'll stop and go, and they have roasted chicken.

SPEAKER_06 48:19

Roasted chicken. Is there a diner? Do we have a breakfast?

SPEAKER_01 48:22

I don't think so anymore.

SPEAKER_06 48:23

Don't think so anymore. Oh, sad, sad. Okay, where are we drinking?

SPEAKER_01 48:29

Um, we're not going out at all. Oh, and we're gonna go to Hard Patch. There's a brewery there.

SPEAKER_06 48:38

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_01 48:39

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 48:40

Uh where are we getting ice cream?

SPEAKER_01 48:41

Mrs. Z.

SPEAKER_06 48:43

Mrs. Z's. What is Mrs. E's?

SPEAKER_01 48:44

Mrs. Zimmer's ice cream shop.

SPEAKER_06 48:46

It's just an ice cream shop, cool. Is it like a dairy queen kind of thing?

SPEAKER_01 48:50

It used to be. I think it's a little smaller now.

SPEAKER_06 48:52

Yeah, yeah. Uh all right. What's the fun thing to do in Hardington?

unknown 48:58

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 49:00

I I don't know. We just drove around.

SPEAKER_06 49:02

Drove around? Yeah. Uh uh, did uh were the parties in the center pivot section or were they in somebody's uh barn or and or machine store?

SPEAKER_00 49:12

Uh by the bridges.

SPEAKER_06 49:13

By the bridges? Nice, nice.

SPEAKER_00 49:15

Amanda, do you remember? I was in Hardington once over Christmas break, staying with a friend. Okay. And we went to the bar, a bar downtown. Uh, there was an alley behind it, and uh, a bunch of guys come up um on horses. Yes. It's an annual tradition. Yep. I think a lambers or two were involved in that whole thing. And they just came in and they were loud and obnoxious and drove me crazy. And then they invited me to come out and visit the horses with them and take a little break the way, and we became the best of buddies.

SPEAKER_01 49:44

If I remember right, that was Mark Naker, um Wilbur, and Donnie Subic.

SPEAKER_00 49:50

Cool. Well, I had a fun time with those guys. Loud as hell, totally annoying. But what's brandy? Oh, blackberry brandy. But I'll tell you is they were ended up being some of the nicest guys, and I had so much fun, and they just they they they let me kind of befriend them in a way. I spent the rest of the night hanging out with them, and it was great. And it was not a pleasant horse ride, it was a cold night. But those guys, it was a tradition.

SPEAKER_04 50:15

Oh, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 50:16

And you stick with tradition. And those guys, every Christmas break, one night, like Friday, Saturday night or whatever, they'd ride the horses from the place to the bar.

SPEAKER_06 50:24

Oh, okay. Uh one more Hardington for you. Uh, what's the hidden gem? What's a hidden gem of the Hardington area?

SPEAKER_01 50:36

Shit.

SPEAKER_06 50:37

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 50:38

I don't know.

SPEAKER_06 50:39

You don't know? Lake uh shock rock lake.

SPEAKER_01 50:44

Yeah, that'd be a good one. Shock rock. Yeah. Yeah. What's a town? Monemone? Yep. That's where my grandmother say it again. Menemone. Menominee. Menomine. Menomine. Menominee.

SPEAKER_00 50:57

Menominee. Beautiful church. Beautiful church. And the Bow Valley Church is beautiful. One of my favorites.

SPEAKER_06 51:03

Before we let you go, someone's coming to Nebraska for a vacation. Where are you sending them?

SPEAKER_01 51:10

For a vacation?

SPEAKER_06 51:11

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 51:11

They'll go up on the river.

SPEAKER_06 51:13

Which river?

SPEAKER_01 51:14

Missouri River. Okay. Goose and Clark Lake. They'll go to Yangton area. Yep. Yangton area and hang out. Well, well, no.

SPEAKER_06 51:22

That's a good one. That's a good one. Done that. Have you taken a tour of the Gavins Point Dam?

SPEAKER_01 51:28

Yes, in eighth grade.

SPEAKER_06 51:30

When you go down in that thing and then yeah, now it's power plant or whatever you call it. Yeah, that's pretty weird.

SPEAKER_01 51:37

I think it was eighth grade. We got to go to the city.

SPEAKER_06 51:38

You're down underneath all that water. Just all I can think about every time is like crap.

SPEAKER_00 51:43

Collapses. I know.

SPEAKER_06 51:45

That's why I have the same thing going the bridges into New York. I'm like, it wouldn't take but just one little hole to make everything, you know, but that's it. Oh, thank you, Amanda. And thank you for supporting the Slagger Dave Love Nebraska podcast. Zoo Fest. Zoo Fest. Right on, right on. Well, that was fun.

SPEAKER_00 52:05

Good job, Matt. Thank you. Well, the irony was we were just talking about if you were doing it from the Zoo Bar.

SPEAKER_06 52:11

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 52:12

Live, and then someone from the Zoo Bar comes here and we did it live. Well, you know what I mean? Semi-live. Unedited, which is I consider unedited the same as live.

SPEAKER_06 52:23

Yeah, okay. Live to tape.

SPEAKER_00 52:25

There it is.

SPEAKER_06 52:26

Recorded, live to tape. There it is. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 52:29

Um, you know, when we went into break.

SPEAKER_06 52:31

Yeah, you were gonna tell us you had two subjects that you were gonna talk about. There were. And that was we've been on 15 minutes since the break, so we better get to those.

SPEAKER_00 52:40

That's what I figured. The two subjects were this. Number one, why do cowboys put their boots on fence books?

SPEAKER_06 52:49

Oh, yeah, that's a good one.

SPEAKER_00 52:51

Do you have any guesses?

SPEAKER_06 52:53

I uh man. I can't I can't think of anything right now.

SPEAKER_00 52:59

Yeah. Well, I put you on the spot, and that's not fair, but that's what you do to everybody else, so it is fair in that regard.

SPEAKER_06 53:06

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I understand.

SPEAKER_00 53:08

Hey, uh you know what, I don't have the answer. Yeah. Well, I do have an answer, because what I say is the mystery is more interesting than the solution. But uh I do have a pretty solid answer, but I'm gonna give you some theories on why they do it. Number one, first of all, you eat you live out on a ranch, you gotta be resourceful, right?

SPEAKER_04 53:29

Yeah, okay.

SPEAKER_00 53:30

And you know, your boot may be worn out, but it ain't all the way worn out. And you can put it on a fence post, it deodorizes itself, etc. And then if you are ever out in the pasture and things go bad, you might have a boot nearby on a fence post that you can still fit on. Some people think that the smell of humans keep the rattlesnakes away. Oh you know, you could put the boot on a post to where it points towards the ranch.

SPEAKER_06 53:58

Oh, that's a good one. Like an arrow, like an arrow.

SPEAKER_00 54:02

Yeah, like an arrow to the headquarters, to the to the ranch house, you know, to the barn. Um here's one. This is this is a uh this isn't true, but this is what I want to believe.

SPEAKER_04 54:13

Oh please.

SPEAKER_00 54:15

Cattle rustlers, when you catch a cattle rustler, you ain't got no place you can imprison them, right? So you don't have to imprison them. You just take their boots and put them on a fence post. And that's kind of a warning. Like number one, that the people person that tried to steal my cattle is having to walk home through sandbirds barefoot. And number two, we take the boots from cattle rustlers. So beware. Another uh here's my other thing. This is uh this is the main reason why I think they put boots on fence posts.

SPEAKER_06 54:47

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 54:48

It looks damn good.

SPEAKER_06 54:50

I'm with you there, I'm with you there.

SPEAKER_00 54:53

And now we're gonna go to our next subject. Oh, and if anybody else has any things that they think are reasons why you put boots on fence posts, we're all ears.

SPEAKER_06 55:03

I I quick did that machine thing. Yeah, what did the AI tell you? Uh well, uh when a comrade passes away.

SPEAKER_00 55:11

I that's true. That's like a memorial for sure.

SPEAKER_06 55:15

Uh uh, or uh the boots have worn out and represent hard work because a rancher grows attached to his boots, wears them daily. And uh that's a memorial to a legacy of those boots. Yeah. Uh I also saw something that said uh like if there's a boot at the the uh property line fence line where the uh the trail to go to into the house. If it's pointed one way, they're home. If it's pointed another way, they're not home.

SPEAKER_00 55:48

Like the sock on the doorknob kind of thing? Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 55:52

You know, we're home or we're in.

SPEAKER_00 55:54

Yeah, you know, or yeah, don't come.

SPEAKER_06 55:55

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 55:56

Or come on. Boots pointed toward the house, that means welcome.

SPEAKER_06 55:59

Welcome, yeah, yeah. But that's a two second.

SPEAKER_00 56:02

The memorial is true. You put, but the irony of that memorial is they always say uh cowboys want to get buried with their boots on.

SPEAKER_06 56:11

Oh so there's that's that's a contrasting Well, but uh the boots there have on at the end, you know. Are those the ones you get buried in? I think the ones you get you're wearing at the end are the ones you get buried in because the other ones did their job. They're responsible. They're on a fence post already. Right? You get buried with the boots you're working in. You're not gonna wear those boots again.

SPEAKER_00 56:35

Well, I think the saying, I could be wrong about this, but I think the reason you say you want to get buried with your boots on, it means in essence that you lived it, you you worked and lived all the way to the end.

SPEAKER_06 56:44

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Got buried with your boots on. Yeah, yeah. You weren't in a bed. You weren't in a bed. Yeah. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 56:51

You were get buried with your boots on. I like that saying.

SPEAKER_06 56:55

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_00 56:56

So, but um okay.

SPEAKER_06 56:58

We're gonna change gears.

SPEAKER_00 57:01

Shift gears. Why are barns red?

SPEAKER_06 57:07

Oh, barns red. Uh well, of course, I'm gonna say what you were talking about, how the the what you uh the color just it was a natural color from the items that came out.

SPEAKER_00 57:23

You're correct. Uh you want to preserve the wood.

SPEAKER_06 57:26

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 57:26

Because the wood will rot if it's not protected in some way. And an excellent wood preservative is linseed oil.

SPEAKER_05 57:33

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 57:33

And mixed with iron oxide, because iron oxide helps prevent moss from growing on the wood.

SPEAKER_04 57:39

Okay, okay, okay.

SPEAKER_00 57:40

And uh so, and that iron oxide turns a rust color.

SPEAKER_04 57:45

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 57:46

So that that rusty iron oxide linseed oil, and then they mix other stuff with it. I don't remember if they mixed milk, egg whites, whatever. Yeah, whether that to thin it or to make it stick, I don't know. I've heard of other things being mixed as well, but linseed oil and iron oxide, I think, are the two base ingredients of wood preservative in the olden days, and it would turn kind of a red color. Yeah. So it became that kind of traditional color. But there's another reason why I think barns are red. I mean, actually, there's about five other reasons why I think barns are red.

SPEAKER_06 58:20

Well, then why isn't every house red if every barn's red? Oh, I beat you to it, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 58:27

Well, I can tell you that's part of the whole thing, is this. Because cows aren't rubbing on and pooping on houses.

SPEAKER_06 58:34

Oh, animals aren't.

SPEAKER_00 58:37

Oh, I'm telling you, if you've ever you paint a barn white and put it next to a cow lot.

SPEAKER_06 58:41

Oh my god, a horse, whatever.

SPEAKER_00 58:42

Of course, but their poops are a little more solid.

SPEAKER_06 58:45

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 58:47

But um, hogs, yeah, yeah. Uh it's gonna get it's gonna get some slop on it.

SPEAKER_06 58:52

Oh no, but I never even thought about just the maintenance of the look of it. Why are you painting it white when you're it's like camouflaging it from manure, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 59:01

And it also camouflages it from when your paint flakes off because the wood underneath it is kind of that brownish red color. Yeah, yeah. So the cool part about a red barn is when the paint starts coming off of it, it still looks pretty good. Also, the nails, the nails that they put on the boards and battons and the hinges, they all rust when it's the red color. Yeah, you don't see it.

SPEAKER_05 59:25

You don't even notice it. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 59:27

Yeah, you look at an old white barn though that's lost off its brain. This is contextual. Yeah, meaning I i I studied barns. I am, I haven't been doing a very good job of it, but I am the Facebook page administrator of the Nebraska Barnes page.

SPEAKER_05 59:44

Oh man.

SPEAKER_00 59:45

And I think we have around 10,000 followers.

SPEAKER_05 59:47

I've been looking it up right now. Oh, do.

SPEAKER_00 59:49

So, but I studied barns as a hobby for most of the last 30 some years. I was born, I was born in a hospital, but they brought me home into a barn. We lived in a barn that had uh living quarters uh created, like an apartment in a barn. Nebraska barn what Nebraska Barnes on Facebook.

SPEAKER_06 1:00:11

You just type in Nebraska Barnes and you'll see the page.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:17

And you'll see that uh there's a yeah, it's we're looking at uh that's the page that I created.

SPEAKER_06 1:00:23

Okay. Yeah. I am going to follow right now.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:26

You guys can follow the Nebraska Page page.

SPEAKER_06 1:00:28

83, 8,300 followers.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:31

8,300 followers. Yep.

SPEAKER_06 1:00:34

Nice. Uh May 29th, I think. Yep. Oh my god.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:39

Uh so but the other reason, and this is really important. The real reason they paint barns red, it's the same reason you put cowboy boots on fence posts. Because it looks so good.

SPEAKER_06 1:00:54

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:55

Um you green grass, blue sky, red barn, red barn.

SPEAKER_06 1:01:01

Oh, I like it. I like it.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:03

Oh, it's the best. It's the cherry on top, man.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:05

Oh, nice.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:07

It really is. It's literally when you're driving down that highway on your way up to Wisner, yeah, and you're, you know, and you're looking at the wheat fields and the cornfields and and the blue sky and the puffy little clouds floating by, and you see a red barn on the horizon with top. It is one of the most, it just makes you feel good.

SPEAKER_06 1:01:27

Red in gardens, like is a popping color. Similar deal. Roses and everything. Uh that barn barn uh going up uh what was 79. We're going up 79.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:40

North and North Bend, the thorn barn.

SPEAKER_06 1:01:42

Past north bend, past the J, J intersection uh on that one at 79, and what's the one that goes 92? So yeah, maybe it's something something like that. There's a J.

unknown 1:01:55

I don't know.

SPEAKER_06 1:01:55

Okay. J thing. So you turn right, and then you gotta get across all the lanes, and you gotta do a U-turn, and then you get and then you gotta get across, and then you can go back north. It's a weird, but it makes sense because that's a really floody area right there. So I don't think you're putting money into to uh overpass right there because uh yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:18

That's a good barn. I think it's called the Thorn Barn, T-H-O-R-N-E. I could be wrong about that. You'd we're gonna change subjects, but I think that's what the barn's called, and that's one of my favorites.

SPEAKER_04 1:02:29

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:30

Um, but there's a lot of cool barns in Nebraska's got a lot of cool barns, and and but not all of them are red.

SPEAKER_06 1:02:36

Do you prefer the red or the red and white stripe?

SPEAKER_00 1:02:39

Oh gosh, let me tell you. In Cass County, Nebraska, a lot of the barns are bank barns. They're built by German settlers and and the Germans, like Pennsylvania Germans, and then they'd build their barns on the bank of a hill. So the cattle would live on the main underground floor and they'd be protected from the north winds.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:59

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:59

And then the upper floor, you could drive your grain cart or your hay rack into there and unload in the on the second level inside the barn without having to do it from the outside. And then you just drop your feet down to the cattle. The reason I bring this up is a lot of those barns in Cass County, the sliding doors where the wagons would pull in, they were striped red and white.

SPEAKER_05 1:03:23

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:23

And that's unique, as far as I know, to those Cass County barns around the Louisville area and that kind of stuff.

SPEAKER_06 1:03:30

Okay, I'm gonna start looking for that stuff.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:33

I write about it actually on the Nebraska Barns page. If you search down far enough about the Cass County Barns, the other thing about Cass County and the Elmwood community is they started putting barn quilts and they have a quilt tour. Barn quilts are those painted geometric shapes on barns. Uh, there's a lot of those in the Elmwood area and surroundings. So if you're into barns, I always recommend the best barn tour is just drive around Elmwood and south of Louisville, between Elmwood and Louisville and south of Louisville to Greenwood. There's some pretty cool barns around there.

SPEAKER_06 1:04:10

You know what else? Not Nebraska, but the wife and I uh both want to go on a uh the bridges Madison County.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:18

Winter said, Iowa, yeah, Madison County.

SPEAKER_06 1:04:21

Have you done that?

SPEAKER_00 1:04:21

I have.

SPEAKER_06 1:04:23

I love it. Yeah, yeah. Okay.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:24

I love it. It's uh now they're more or less touristy relics. Yeah. Um, but what's cool is the way they built them, they're timber framed. They're built out of wood, like native timbers, and they use wood pegs to hold the things together, just like they built barns in the olden days. And those bridges, especially if you're into construction, they're pretty fascinating how they built those using really primitive technology.

SPEAKER_06 1:04:51

Some we could go off on joinery for a while. There's another real algorithm that you watch one and then you're stuck watching. But we weren't we're not gonna talk joinery. But yeah, I love that kind of mortise and ten and joinery.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:07

I I think that's cool. I think while we're talking about that, log cabins, the way they shape those woods, would you go together?

SPEAKER_06 1:05:14

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:15

Are we almost at the end?

SPEAKER_06 1:05:16

Yeah, but we can go a little bit. We can go a little bit. You had something else that you were gonna bring up, weren't you?

SPEAKER_00 1:05:21

No, I had about 14 things I was gonna bring up.

SPEAKER_06 1:05:23

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:25

That's why we gotta do this again. Uh yeah, you said I think at the beginning, before we go off the rails, and we immediately went off the rails. This is great. That's that's way weird.

SPEAKER_06 1:05:34

Well, let's go one more subject. Let's pull let's uh spin the spin the I'll tell you what we're gonna do.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:41

We're gonna tease, we're gonna tease a little bit. Um there's a there's a there's a fascinating story about the history of Lincoln. Um it's a mystery that's yet to be unsolved.

SPEAKER_04 1:05:54

Okay, cool, cool.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:55

There was a murder in January of 1921 at twin. 20th and Washington.

SPEAKER_06 1:06:01

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:02

Right by Russ's. Yep, yep. Not very far from there.

SPEAKER_06 1:06:05

Star Wars Cantina Russes.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:08

Thank you. Not the other name sometimes called. That house is a yellow house. It sits on the uh northwest corner of the intersection at 20th and Washington. It's now occupied by John Carlson and Cinnamon Dock. Oh, okay, okay. It's their home. And um but prior to John and his ex-wife purchasing that home, it had been in the same family from 1901 when it was built until 1995. And it had been occupied during that entire period by a woman named Marjorie Barstow. She was born there and died, uh died in the house, but you know, lived there until she was 94, 95 years old. Marjorie Barstow is a fascinating story because she was she taught the Alexander technique, which was a a relaxation technique for the mind and the body. And it taught us how to move and think efficiently and fluidly. But Marjorie's brother was a guy named Adrian Barstow. And during World War I, Adrian didn't go to war. He was in his late 20s.

SPEAKER_04 1:07:17

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:18

So all these teenagers and early 20s, they were all going to war and joining the military. He stuck around. And he was kind of a man about town.

SPEAKER_06 1:07:28

Oh, okay, okay. Single man, war time. Gotcha.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:34

You can read between the lines. And Adrian uh he was sleeping with the wrong woman or women. And one of the women he was with allegedly had a husband who was in the military and away.

SPEAKER_04 1:07:50

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:51

And when uh I believe the story is that when he got back, this gentleman uh he told his wife and Adrian that there would be no more getting together. And I don't think uh Adrian followed the rules. His wife didn't either. We don't know this for a fact, but it explains why an anonymous person came to the Barstow residence, hid in the bushes until Adrian got home from a night out on the town and uh was shot between the garage and the or the and the front porch or the carriage house in the front porch. And Adrian died pretty quick after being shot, and the gentleman that shot him got on a bicycle.

SPEAKER_06 1:08:30

Do we know it was a gentleman for sure?

SPEAKER_00 1:08:33

No, we don't. Okay, we can assume what we do know is there was a witness that saw a person get on the bike after the gunshots and ride away. And that person had a lamp, but I think it back then lamps were like a gas lamp.

SPEAKER_04 1:08:47

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:08:48

It was January 21st, I believe. He slid on an ice patch near A Street, like around uh maybe 18th and A, who knows, somewhere on A Street. Slid on the ice patch, wrecked, broke the glass of the lantern, cut himself, and left a blood trail that went down uh the the residential streets and main streets all the way to downtown before the blood trail stopped. And the police followed the blood trail until they got to like 14th in J. And then the police chief's like, give it up, call it off. No more search.

SPEAKER_06 1:09:24

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:09:26

Which seems a little mysterious.

SPEAKER_06 1:09:27

Seems a little mysterious, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:09:30

And maybe it was the worst kept secret of all time, we don't know, but no one was ever charged or convicted in Adrian Barstow's murder.

SPEAKER_05 1:09:40

Oh, wow.

SPEAKER_00 1:09:42

The rumor is that it was probably someone who had a lot of influence in Lincoln from a family.

SPEAKER_04 1:09:47

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:09:48

He was influential in business and politics.

SPEAKER_04 1:09:52

Okay, okay, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:09:53

And also upper crust. Upper crust. But not so much he didn't volunteer to join the military.

SPEAKER_04 1:10:00

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:10:01

Because things were different back then. That was the honorable thing to do.

SPEAKER_04 1:10:04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:10:04

The other thing is, I don't think a whole lot of people missed Adrian Barstow. I think if he was a loved man, I think there would have been a lot more effort into. But I don't know. I am not here to disparage Adrian Barstow's legacy or reputation. I will leave it up to our viewers and listeners to make their decision because there might not be a solution to it, but the mystery is always more interesting than the other.

SPEAKER_06 1:10:29

Now, Adrian Barstow, I wonder, I wonder if uh their house has been through paranormal people have been there or anything.

SPEAKER_00 1:10:37

You ever heard of a gentleman uh that wrote about the ghosts of Lincoln and David Boyd's brother? I can't remember his first name. Uh he wrote a book like Ghosts of Lincoln Ghost Lake and Ghost Tour or something like that. Allegedly, opposite of that corner, there's a little step. Some steps go up from the street to the sidewalk, or there's a and allegedly, if you're on the southeast corner of 20th in Washington, it's always slightly cooler right there than anywhere else uh in that area.

SPEAKER_06 1:11:07

Say Southeast Corner?

SPEAKER_00 1:11:08

Of 20th in Washington.

SPEAKER_06 1:11:10

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 1:11:11

Uh because of the legend of Adrian Barstow.

SPEAKER_06 1:11:15

Oh, wow, wow. Uh by the way, uh side note, uh Kane Stevens, producer of the show, starting a new uh show on KZUM, the Kane Stevens uh Paranormal Super Show. There we go. It's gonna be on, I can't remember if it's Friday night after midnight or Saturday night after midnight, like at three in the morning. So it's gonna be, for me, it's gonna be an archive one, but yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:11:39

I uh well going along with that, I have a ghost story, there's a non-ghost ghost story about Whitehall, also in Lincoln.

SPEAKER_06 1:11:46

Okay, do it.

SPEAKER_00 1:11:47

I will, but we'll save that for the next one, or we'll share it with Kate.

SPEAKER_06 1:11:50

There you go. There you go. You might have to go on his show one of these days.

SPEAKER_00 1:11:54

Probably. I'm not a big paranormal guy. I'm the I'm the unparanormal guy. So it would be good uh.

SPEAKER_06 1:12:00

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So uh what I don't even know what else to say. Oh, by the way, I've never asked you this question. Someone's coming to Nebraska. Yeah, where are you sending them? I mean, I I'm there's no restrictions, time, money, whatever, you know.

SPEAKER_00 1:12:22

I think personally, Sheridan Boulevard. I love to send people down Sheridan Boulevard. The architecture, this and kind of the history, how that used to be, the islands down Sheridan used to be a streetcar.

SPEAKER_03 1:12:37

Oh, yeah, yeah. The panty bridges, right?

SPEAKER_00 1:12:39

And the panty bridges, yeah, exactly. Goes all the way out to you know, uh College View. Uh, I just think that if you're into architecture, history, uh, gardens, all of those things, Sheridan Boulevard kind of has it all. And it's walkable, it's drivable, it's just kind of a and it's not touristy at all.

SPEAKER_06 1:13:00

It is like if if a movie, you wanted to have that neighborhood, that's that's that neighborhood.

SPEAKER_00 1:13:06

I think terms of endearment might have in either that or that Woods down the Woodshire, Woodsdale, Woodshire, you know, near there. Uh, but and like obviously, I mean the state capital. No, duh. That's a no-brainer. That's why that's the easy answer. I'm always going for the tangential answer, and I think Sheridan Boulevard's pretty cool. And so that's one of I could go on, but that's I think like just right off the top of my head, I think that's a pretty cool one.

SPEAKER_06 1:13:35

So Dun Lincoln.

SPEAKER_00 1:13:37

Yep.

SPEAKER_06 1:13:39

One place outside of Lincoln.

SPEAKER_03 1:13:44

Okay. Osceola. Osceola. Uh, do we know where Osceola is? 92, highway 92, east of Highway 81. Okay, okay, okay.

SPEAKER_00 1:13:53

Just north of Stromsburg.

SPEAKER_03 1:13:55

Okay, okay, okay.

SPEAKER_00 1:13:56

There's just something cool about Osceola. Every time I go there, I'm like, this is a cool town. And it's like unknown. Here's another one. I love like St. Paul.

SPEAKER_05 1:14:07

St. Paul.

SPEAKER_00 1:14:08

St. Paul's pretty cool. Uh Osceola, though, is one of those towns like when I drive by Osceola, I always want to stop and drive around town. And every time I do, I'm like, this is a cool place.

SPEAKER_06 1:14:19

That's cool. That's cool.

SPEAKER_00 1:14:21

Well, the cool part about Osceola is the highway goes, you know, just kind of cuts through town, but it doesn't go through downtown. So downtown is very, you know, it's slow.

SPEAKER_06 1:14:31

Like a little squad.

SPEAKER_00 1:14:32

Like the block off. Yeah, about three blocks off.

SPEAKER_06 1:14:35

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:14:35

You know, but it's got everything. It's got the railroad tracks, the grain elevator, the old downtown. The other thing I like.

SPEAKER_06 1:14:43

Sail barn, probably. Can't remember. Oh, I love the Sail Barn Railroad Track, Grain Elevator.

SPEAKER_00 1:14:49

Fullerton. Yeah, you got Fullerton's one of them. It's kind of a similar deal. The downtown is away off the highway, sail barn on the north end of town, right by the Cedar, I think the Cedar River, Cedar Creek goes through there. Okay. Um, I love those towns. And I love to just like drive, park the car, walk the streets.

SPEAKER_04 1:15:08

Nice, nice, nice I love it.

SPEAKER_00 1:15:10

And if you can, find a diner that serves a patty melt.

SPEAKER_06 1:15:14

Speaking of that, I was just about to ask you have you had any new patty melts on your patty mount thing since uh the highway diner?

SPEAKER_00 1:15:20

No, but a friend of mine went to the highway diner after trusting my judgment and came back with a five-star review. Oh no. Loved the patty melt. It was like, and it really is the highway diner. Highway diner, you guys knock it out. That's a great patty mount. I haven't had a bad patty melt though, I for the record. But that one is a great one. And it's and it's and it meets all of the the traditional parameters of a patty. It's the best, most traditional patty melt I think I've ever had.

SPEAKER_06 1:15:53

Nice, nice.

SPEAKER_00 1:15:54

Which is the way I want it. I want it traditional.

SPEAKER_06 1:15:56

There you go. Um anything else? Got anything else from people? Only this.

SPEAKER_00 1:16:01

Write a new book, by the way. Thank you for this.

SPEAKER_06 1:16:04

Yeah, R.I.P. zip lines. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:16:06

Peace. Uh uh, yeah, uh R.I.P.

SPEAKER_06 1:16:10

employees and everybody who built that to make it what it is.

SPEAKER_00 1:16:12

Yeah, yeah, that's that's sad. And maybe someday that mystery will be solved. Until then, the mystery is more interesting than the solutions.

SPEAKER_06 1:16:22

All right, be excellent to each other, everybody. Uh thank you very much, and uh party on kids.